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Does Emerald have a poster like that too?
I'm happy with how fair the devs made the teams' pokemon selection
Same!
I want to participate though so I need to decide
I'm leaning towards Ruby
I do love shellos but there are already a lot of water types and 2 lines of Hoenn water/ground pokemon
Can I persuade you with grass types
Hey, are you only allowed to pick a team if you plan on participating or can you just join a team to like show support and watch the chats?
You can just join a team
I'm Kinda waiting till I see an Emerald equivalent of these
emerald slacking 
I don't know if anyone made one for emerald
On one hand my one of my favorite fighting types
On the other one of my favorite electric types
On the third one of my favorite psychic types
Wait, wrong message replied to, apologies 
I feel like most of Emerald are the non spriters
But I don't really have a way of checking
That or Gogoat fans, there is a lot
Sadly 😭
Oh god the Gogoat Stampede is gonna stampede us 
That means less votes are from spriters
Which means a higher chance to get something which sucks to sprite
Like patrat
Emerald is enticing for Gogoat, and I actually really want the Monkeys in and Pansage is the coolest one
That and Abamasnow
Nah not many emeralds like gogoat
Why are they there then
The options who aren't gogoat idk
can we all just band together and vote the elemonkeys...
it makes us get 6 mons for the price of 1 line
I don't like monkeys 
If they got in I would never sprite or use them
Sorry, it's true 😔
The monkeys are based
I just wish they got Adaptability instead
Woulda been way cooler and made sense
And imagine adaptability Water Electric
Would be sick
really hope the person with the most points picks a cool guy and not some bum like carnivine
The nonspriter Emerald people are probably largely due to Emerald being the expanded gen 3 game
(also cause it has the cooler options) what who said that
Fanta you could be the one to do it
im down
I still want Seismitoad, but I am not gonna get enough points
And prolly gonna be Shellos if Saphire wins which is just gonna make me sad that the Toad is the only one left out
We need more garsh darn Gen 5 mons
This is true but unfortunately as you can see I really really like sea slugs sndhjssjsk
Gotta say, I don't see quantity as a positive when it only looks like two Pokémon were added. If we added 6 and it looked like we added 6 that'd be great. But this seems like adding to the exponential work load for minimal artistic benefit 
Can we atleast vote Simipour 
No 
The best you'd get from me is Zebstrika
I do love the zebras
Honestly I do want Bronzong for the comp side of things
Fire Steel Levitate is gas
THATS WHY VIKAVOLT WOULD BE GREAT! We get 3 completely different mons with their own colour and vibes!
That and Heatproof Bug Steel is really funny
It's a good point. And I would not be mad if that Pokémon won
Araquinid would be peak, can we let that win
The water bubble could be cool
Heck yeah, everyone gets propaganda
Meowstic would be really cool
beheeyem is super cool
wanted to use it in sword and shield but my team was full
smh saying good things about every emerald mon but being on sapphire 😔
more than a cool alien and a funny slightly creepy bunny plush thing?? wooooow
And pidove
ew
and ducklet
ducklett is okay i like him
Hnmgnghb Gogogat is so overhyped green cant win cuz it gives Gogoat a chance
Gogoat LITERALLY not on the propaganda
And bergmite
man i used my own biased ness to choose pokemon tbh
i really like swoobat i wouldnt be mad if it wins
Cute fella
Good point but im still a lil annoyed by everyone acting like Gogoat has a chance
LITERALLY the whole support team is splitted in other groups and every side people say Gogoat isnt ALLOWED to win
Highly doubt anyone wants to vote for this but I do like the ice creams, they're silly
Wait why would gogoat not be allowed to win?
They are fun
I LOVE THE VANILLITE LINE
Idk but I see way too many people saying that
Some say Emerald cant win cuz they fear Gogoat gets in
like imagine a fusion of slurpuff/vanilluxe and its cotton candy
I called my vanillux Doomsdae 
"It’s better if just Emerald losses, so there isn’t chance for Gogoat
"
Aww, I like the goat
Vanillite line def has fusion potential
I mean I dont even see why it gets SO much hate
Its fine if you dont like it but its the main reason people dont want Emerald to win
Oh hey Corra an image for team Emerald was made
Agree
it doesn't give any of them cute nicknames, just subteams
Man I kinda wish I wasnt team emerald...
Should have known that my fav has no chance cuz again a lot of people will hate on it for no reason

Could have rooted for something awesome like Mudsdale, Hippowdon, Carracosta etc
its not a bad option
But no now my depressed ass who has enough other problems daily sees how people slander something for no reason
Sorry but why even roast a Pokemon every new addition is awesome
I dont hate on stuff like Hippowdon like "ooooh its just a sand hippo and it gets bigger"
Technically a lot of pokemon evolutions when you simplify it is just, "get bigger"
I would even be happy with Marshadow and I hate that fucking thing
Like even my pick is just "get bigger"
Exactly often a concept isnt that clear
Yeah bigger slug
But that it also has inspirations by cows and shit noone cares about
But imagine you spend years trying to make a forgotten mon a bit more relevant and now people roast it by every chance and say "let Sapphire not win cuz Shellos has a chance" Its fucking stupid and makes me mad
I'm not going with emerald mainly because I don't have strong feelings for any of the particular pokemon, just a general like for the selection
Even more when it comes from a guy I conciderd sort of a friend
And thats a perfectly valid reason
I like Gogoat
Thanks
Yeah I get it, that would be disheartening
I'm not on your team but I will cheer for your goats
Thanks but I know it wont happen
Most points will be a big spriter like Hero
And the rest shows interest in everything else
If Gogoat gets in I eat a Carolina reaper with video proof
So sure I am it wont get in through any vote or MVP pick
I think gogoat will get in someday, I feel like the amount of fusions made for it already in this server is a testament to the goat having support even if some people don't want it at all
any propaganda is good propaganda 
Srsly
No need to diss other Pokémon [glares at the propaganda that dissed lopunny because some people get rule2 over it]
Every pokemon is someone's favorite and has merit to it
yeah my favorite pokemon are Watchog and Purugly
which according to this server is like both bottom 5 wanted mons in the game
The only staff helper that’s still non-if 
Although I don't have strong personal feelings about gogoat, I'd definitely feel the hype if it got in - because there's the whole team for it, and all the sprites, and it would be awesome
yee, i'd be disappointed my favorite isnt in but I know other people who are like super happy theirs got in
as long as they don't rub it in your face and just belittle your favorite mon
Ah yes, gogoat got in lets make a fusion, aaaand theyre all done

its funny because I asked if I could have a team for Unova starters
and they said no, but then they made a team for Crabominable and Gogoat
Team crabominable and gogoat arent official teams like Team wooper
nuh uh
Yeah those teams aren't official and the threads for them actually got closed
its designed to be awesome sauce
Rip ice type magikarp
Then name it purawesomesauce
They held on the longest of them all 
thats up to frog, i will be writing a complaint if this does not happen when team emerald wins and votes in purugly
Purugly self fusion is a bottle of sauce that reads, "Purawesomesauce"
when
like 1-2 years ago
just join the non if server we got a starter thread too
We never asked and made a spritework team
we werent even the first to do so
after hearing of the adventures of Frederick the bodyguard (and part-time sheriff's deputy), I hold some affection towards watchog
now i just need someone to do the same for glameow and purugly
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Poor patrat getting bulldozed by the puppy
Pokéfans don;t get that sometimes a pokémon can be bad
and it's fine
Nothing needs to get fixed
usually
it's not as bad as you think. the "fix" is usually an ability and some moves swapped around
Ah, kthen
Sometimes a pokemon just needs a couple buffs to be viable for at least casual play
Unfortunate for patrat to be put in the shadow of Lillipup though, it's not that bad
Chat, what's a Pokemon that you think deserves more love.
like, giving Onix Coil helped a lot to counter Rock moves' inaccuracy, Sunflora became a Grass/Normal type
delibird got a whole moveset which, i mean
Sunflora what now?
i learned to appreciate Golduck due to Soak strats
but i don't know how the general fandom perceives a lot of pokemon so i can't really say
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yeah
but the guy does implement them
does this guy really need a whole hour to say how to buff a mon ☠️
Some pokemon really need it
sunflora is terrible yes but i feel like its as simple as “this mons slow and weak and frail so lets give it more stats”
No! he narrates a whole story going through the plot of the game!
What
did you miss the part where the apocalypse happened?
i didnt watch the vid cause im outside
Sunflora/sunkern in there current state would be fine as early game pokemon, but they aren't given that in any of the main games
who roasts it lmao, I believe there's at least a few people who sprited it even as non if
Except scarlet/violet (I'm looking at the Bulbapedia page)
well when you come back inside 😌
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^clipped it
Ty.
It's unfortunate when a pokemon is way weaker than what's available. I'm really stubborn about the pokemon I like and am drawn to and don't want to change what pokemon I'm using just because it's not the meta or the mon itself is just way weaker than average.
I win with my favorites or I don't win at all. I won't win tournaments but it wouldn't be fulfilling for me when who I win with isn't the pals I bonded with.
i bet i can make propaganda for all the options 🤔
i wonder what would be my least favorite to sprite
Everyone should make propaganda for their top picks, it would be epic
maybe the starly line
bird bodies!
everyone should make propaganda for every option 
i wanna see y'all get hyped for your least faves
There are some I specifically would have a really hard time saying something nice for, but I suppose that's the point XD
Alright I'll give love to a pokemon who has never recieved love from me before
some of my least faves have to do with recognizability and what they bring to the table
like, audino is pinker blissey, avalugg overlaps with regice, starly is more generic bird™x3
but lemme think 🤔
I actually really like Audino, especially the mega form
Its little ear curls are cute
Oh yeah and it has a little fluffy bunny like tail
Glad it’s not just me, I’m surprised how many people don’t like audino
it has magical girl vibes what’s not to like
just embrace the alt status and use the mega design 
audino - brings cream to the blissey palette. also has more of defined figure and coat patterning that differentiates it from wigglytuff
avalugg - whereas regice is sculpted ice, bergmite and avalugg can be the more raw rough ice of natural glaciers. and the bodies are pretty distinct, too
starly - i hear it has great stats. it allows some cool haircuts, i suppose. i guess that beak is distinct
staraptor stats are p whatever
i don't dislike it. it's just i've had a bad enough time with wigglytuff 
🤔 basculin
- generic fish
otoh - angry spiky fish? the underbite's distinctive, and you could have fun with the patterning
Basculegion is super cool but unfortunately we wouldn't be able to have that in the game
Great self fusion sprites though
Minun and plusle plus basculin would be kinda cute just because they both have a red and blue counterpart thing happening
yungoos and gumshoos
- reminds people of Tr*mp
- body has overlap with furret and linoone
otoh - yungoos has some pretty vicious teeth that it'd be fun to play into
- gumshoos is literally a detective
ducklett and swanna
- they do have pretty decent silhouettes for birds
- ballerinas and tutus
cubchoo and beartic
- i hate snot. i hate snot. i hate snot. i hate snot and saliva
can anyone even pronouncebeartic?- beartic's kind of just a pointier ursaring?
otoh - polar bears are neat
- i suppose ice texture and fur texture together could be fun
patrat and watchog
- 100% peak. no notes
skiddo and gogoat
- grassy motorbike goats
Now I'm thinking of Princess Tutu
beartic got slush rush maybe
helioptile and heliolisk
- kinda generic lizard bodies, but i think they're neat. you could have fun with the frills
yeah. there's the risk that ducklett and swanna could just have a single design trope going for them, but it's not the worst
make everyone a ballerina! make groudon a ballerina! make darkrai a ballerina!
I would love Groundon ballerina
sawk and throh
- muppets
sawk/ekans
the biggest drawback is that there are two of them and they're kinda iffy in terms of bodies. i don't know how much you can play with them while keeping them recognizable
glameow and purugly
- more cats
- they are pretty distinct from the cats we currently have. you could have fun with the ruff of glameow and playing into the over-the-hill former beauty queen design of purugly
actually, the more i look at purugly's design, the more fun aspects i see in it
tbh, the biggest drawback of glameow is that the tail takes up so much of its visual real estate 
bouffalant
- tauros but not bald
- it's a single-stager, so you don't have to worry about extending a single design element across several evos
- afros? blaxploitation could be fun but also could easily run into problematic design elements
Made the propaganda
I genuinely did not know it had a bow on it until now
morelull and shiinotic
- 🤔 i was thinking they'd overlap too much with shroomish and paras, but they do have quite a few distinct design elements. tbh, i think the biggest concern might be morelull bodies overlapping too much with oddish
- another Fairy
- i think they also glow?
Yeah they glow
people like glow fx
I love morelull but Shiinotic's face and proportions creeps me out
i just think pancham and pangoro are the more interesting possible bear additions
if Nintendo thought Toadette wasn't femme enough
Cubchoo's cute but Beartic feels like it's lacking in some way, not sure how exactly
cherubi and cherrim
- berries and flowers
- i guess if you like berries and flowers?
Oh I love love love LOVE cherubi
go for it 
I do not know why but younger me was obsessed with cherubi
I waited so eagerly to get one with the honey trees
i like the name - the pun on "cherub" and "cherry"
I just love little guys
Should I make propaganda:0
elgyem and beheeyem
- aliens with 5heads
- could have fun with the Simon lights
- beheeyem has a trenchcoat
- i'm iffy about the proportions being distinct, but they do have some neat design tropes to lean into
- i'm procrastinating trying to come up with something nice about diggersby
I wish they didn't make the patch of fur in the middle of its waist yellow
bunnelby and diggersby
- rabbits that don't evoke rule2
- construction worker
- mud fx?
patrat's more interesting, sorry- i suppose a pudgy rabbit is distinct. actually, with its punching ears, why doesn't it evolve from buneary? and bunnelby can get hit with the puberty stick and become a beauty queen
Having those two lines together would be interesting
Also love the phrase, "puberty stick" 
Pokemon don't evolve they just get with the puberty stick... Or truck depending on the line XD
dedenne
- hamter
- another Fairy type's good
- single-stager
- the whiskers and tail could be adapted into electrical wires?
Dedenne!!!!
Dedenne! 
alomomola
- luvdisc can finally be with its evo
- no seriously. i want this in only if luvdisc can evolve into it
- i don't hate it, just
- 🅱️lease
I HAVE NO IDEA WHY THEY DIDN'T DO THAT
Unova
Like I know in theory they didn't because Umova doesn't use any past pokemon in its first games, but Alolomola looks like it wants to be Luvdisc's evo sooo bad
stunky and skuntank
- they're not bad. they've got cool punk hair. it's just. skunks. and one has a butt for a face
A skuntank repeatedly killed my whole team in soul silver I think (or was it platinum?)
The skunk did not like me
oranguru and passimian
- tbh, they've got a lot of design you could work with. only real concern is possible body overlap with slaking and vigoroth
- also sports
bounsweet, steenee, and tsareena
- like gardevoir, but better stats as the body
- first form is a fruit, so we're not just limited to tropius
foongus and amoongus
- design overlaps with voltorb, shroomish, and shiinotic

- i guess it being girthier and the evo having those "shields" is notable?

heatmor
- i think it has huge potential as a head. it has pipes! and magma stripes!
- the body is distinct enough that it could be decent to sprite
- it doesn't come with durant???
- Amogus
Amogus
say something nice about a pokemon you're otherwise not stoked about
Alomomola would be a funny competitive addition
itd prob get banned v quickly lol
Waiter, another Regenerator water type
What makes it banworthy compared to the current cast of Regen waters?
basculin evolves into basculegion
basculin is probably the only pokemon out of all teams i dont like actually 
basculegion's cool at least
yeah literally the only redeeming factor, thats why i said it evolves into basculegion, but we arent even getting basculegion 
only good thing is the basculegion alts that will come of it
imagine a person playing for the first time and they run into a basculin/Gyarados and its sprited to be basculegion and they get scared about it potentially last respecting them
Basculigion won't be in pif of basculin gets in 👀
says you topaz
Basculegion real
My opinions on potential new mons, Araquanid #1
Yay vikavolt on the top
so can I count on you to join team topez to get mothim in? 
Do we really need moth #3? 
Let's go more people like Gastrodon than I expected
Crustle is cute, I forgot about them
gastrodon's great
so is dwibble :>
Crustle is a pokemon I don't like, but it has some really good fusion potential
Lasagna Crab
I'm a huge dwibble fan, but I don't like his evo 
I like useing the evo, but it looked so much better as a smol crab 
why is it lasagnia 
Do what I do, use the 100% worse stat wise pre evos anyway 
Lunatone is a Croissant
ig I can give it evolite 
it looks like a mummy
A yummy mummy
no! don't eat living things! 
Fine I got and eat rocks
tru vegan 
Also Zero I just noticed your name changed to the plague that gave up 
Yeah im sure that Gogoat has 0 chance...
It's never 0, could be slim but it's never 0
Like just searching Gogoat and second message it shows me
"As you should
I don't like Bronzong
But I like the possibility of Gogoat not getting in"
i mean chances definitely arent slim. you have a relatively high amount of supporters for a random dude
and there will always be haters, no need to worry about that. gogoat'll get in one day as long as you support them without any aknowledgement of those haters
dont listion to the haters
listion to yr heart
my heart says bu-bump-bu-bump

wise words, thorn.
My dad has heart problems that are likely to be passed down
So idk if its soooo good to listen to it 
Nah if I bite the dust it happens idc
besides, even if you dont get gogoat, you know you can just keep on making them to fill up the gallery when it inevitably does get in
unless Frog dies before it gets in 
If we 100% gogoat will that force it to get in dbdhsnsjs
nah but it would be a great accomplishment
Some people use it having a many Sprites as a negative point
(But they were happy and wanted Diancie )
I personally just like other mons more 
And thats valid
again, doesnt matter if some people are unhappy. think about mons like jangmo-o
never said its not allowed to like others more
jangmo-o 😭
I did make some hakam-o sprites tho. :>
(Do not look forward to making the final form 
i like jangmo-o by the way, just saying that a lot of spriters hated the addition 
cause it's too complicated 😭
exactly lol
I actually really like Hakamo-o
I remember being shocked that the jangamo-o line was voted in, I just didn't realize it was a well liked pokemon to be honest
I like the mon, but I don't wanna draw it 
i have a shiny kommo-o in violet
Awesome
same way with klingklang. Love the mon. But despise making sprites for it 
I would have no idea where to even begin trying to fuse klingklang as a head mon
Do I just start glueing gears all over the body or
The only one I made was bulbasaur. I just replaced the head and the bulb with a gear 
that’s the main way to do it for people who aren’t very skilled with gears
doesn’t seem that bad 
imagine being skilled with gears, couldn't be me
Understandable to do it like that even tho I hate it XD
will probably be the only heads of that line I ever make 
Fair
bodys on the other hand... 
Your a maniac and I FEAR you
bodies have better stats and no one makes them 😭
Cuz bodys feel worse
I still haven't done any klink or Klinklang heads, come to think of it
i have one and i needed help
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ah okay
One of the better Movies to me, honestly.
Not exactly better than Lucario or the 1st Movie, but still Pretty Solid
fun jangmo-o fact, it actually won in the 1st popularity poll, the team just retroactively denied it because like 10 other dragon types had more votes
and they wanted more type diversity for the update. Imagine their shock when the 2nd pop poll came around, guess who won 
i mean in addition to it being the ONLY Pseudo still not in the game
i am trying to sprite for the event but having cones for hands is making it very difficult
that is. more cones
Just be like me and have 1000 eldritch hands
snow cones 
sapphire has snow cones
how do we know which mons are tied to each team?
so.... any team can do any fusion that is IF and that adds to the score?
through propaganda 
I dont see a list of elegible (not the prize) mons anywhere
oh
yeah any fusion, but the last page has a section of mons that give bonus points
and it has to be something that hasnt been sprited yet?
you can make 50 castform rainy bases if you're up for it
afaik... the competing teams do not show their work.. is that un purpose?
you should join team saphire
we got ice cream
@cedar quest I know you said 15 challenge bonus mons per team is plenty, but may I suggest setting up a vote? Each team can vote for 5 Pokemon to be added to their list of Bonus mons (Not 5 lines, just 5 Pokemon. and if say.. Spheal is voted for, then Sealeo and Walrein come with it)
I think it would:
A. Let the teams discuss and strategize what Pokemon should be added to their bonus pools.
B. Help improve the variety of Pokemon we can sprite and keep things interesting.
C. Close the disparity gap of easy to sprite Pokemon between teams. (Ruby and Sapphire are basically in agreement that Emerald has WAY easier to sprite Pokemon)
D. Bring the number of bonus mons per team up to 20 which I think is just a nicer number :)
And E. Most importantly, I think it would be really fun letting the teams themselves determine just a few more Pokemon we can sprite for bonus points (and I can't stress enough a FEW, 5 new Pokemon per team I'd say is the limit)
There are members on both Team Ruby and Team Sapphire who are on board with the idea. And this isn't a joke suggestion, I legitimately think it would be cool and make things more interesting. If it's simply too late to just add more Pokemon to the bonuses that's perfectly understandable, but if it's possible without too much hassle again I think it would be really cool. Thank you!
(Bolded for clarity to anyone who misunderstands this suggestion, this is NOT about Pokemon being added to PIF!!! This is about adding Pokemon already in PIF to the list of mons that grant bonus points when sprited by their respective teams!!!)
also actually I don't think custom bases give points 

camerupts is tempting... butonly camerupt from ruby, I think making lamias and mermaids is cool too
Just to clarify on my point of disparity between easy to sprite pokemon, Skitty and Delcatty are incredibly simple to sprite for both head and body, meanwhile Linoone and Zigzagoon have incredibly high similarity for like no reason and so does Mightyena which is also just a very shaggy and particularly furry Pokemon that requires more complicated texture work to make it look good compared to the equivalents on Ruby and especially Emerald
Relicanth, Carvanha, and Seviper are all Pokemon with somewhat intricate color placements and patterns that aren't particularly easy to sprite while Emerald gets Cacnea, Spinda, and Jolteon. In all fairness however, Cacturne has the same similarity issues as Mightyena and the Zigzagoon line and I wouldn't say Tropius is easy to sprite in any sense of the word. Zangoose and Numel are also comparatively easy to sprite compared to their Sapphire counterparts with simple colors and patterns.
Not to mention fish in general like Relicanth, Carvanha, and I'd even say Sharpedo to an extent are just difficult to grasp and sprite well
Actually I wanna go through each bonus mon just to verify if this is truly a problem when taking into account EVERY pokemon. Sorry for the word salad up there
I’m just curious if concept art can be made outside of the concept art contest to contribute to some fusions of these pokemon
Like there’s a lot of Pokémon on team sapphire I want in the game and I kinda wanna draw fusions of them
Yes 100%, you can make concept art at any time!
Alrighty time for Liepard propaganda
Oh- I mean I'm sure you can make non-IF concept art too. I misunderstood what you meant lol
No dw
I tend to make fusions for already in game pokemon
But when it comes to this event and the list of Pokémon on team sapphire
I see Liepard and neuron activation
I did the thing. Keep in mind this is my personal and undeniably biased opinion based on what I personally feel like would be difficult to sprite as somebody who has only sprited SOME of these pokemon! And I'll be honest I'm genuinely surprised Ruby and Emerald's totals are so close to each other after tallying them up in the end.
Either way, I don't want the difficulty of the sprites to be the main factor of my suggestion, the main factor really is just I think it would be incredibly cool and fun to let the teams vote to pick a few more Pokemon they can get bonus points for spriting
im just annoyed that
ruby got Linoone (long dog)
sapphire got Mightyena (regular dog)
AND THEY SKIPPED THE ACTUALLY GREEN DOG IN EMERALD
IN FAVOR OF SKITTY

#totallynotbiased
Wait omg I didn't even consider that 💀
My guess is it was just early route pokemon
there's probably a reason for it but for me it's reason to be fake-annoyed
Skitty's found on route 106 which is before the first gym while Elektrike is Route 111 or smth which is after the SECOND gym

I might be thinking Route 110
But still that's after the second gym
It's the route above Slateport
I'll admit I may have been a little too lenient with Zangoose and Zigzagoon. I'd probably lower Zangoose to 3/5 across the board and Zigzagoon to 2/5 across the board. Which would bring Ruby's total down to 90/150
I've done Linoone but honestly just looking at Zigzagoon.. and its similarity count.. it scares me. 2/5 across the board might not even be accurate
But I can't know until I've ACTUALLY tried spriting one
imean to me that scoring thing feels a bit pointless cuz it's not like you're going to not sprite at all
but being able to vote for a few extra mons for your team sounds like fun
Exactly my point. I don't want that scoring to be the crux of my argument. The main thing is that I just think it would be really fun to let us vote for a few more mons in terms of strategy
I also have ADHD and started hyperfixating on the idea of doing that scoring and so I just had to do it lmao
I was curious what the results would ACTUALLY be
I’m pretty sure it’s because skitty can be found by rustboro while electrike is found in the place after the demo ends so unobtainable
I will be on Flareon or lilipup
Lillipup isn't in PIF
Okay then just Flareon
Pokemon on YouTube keeps posting pictures of Espurr, I'm half expecting the company themselves to barge into the discord not to sue us but to force Espurr into the game sbdhsjsnsusksu
Welp.... I lost the tournament Round 1.
Atleast you knew how to join
that milotic porygon is broken @flint lintel
The most infuriating thing for me was not being able to chat
like so rigged
i was like maybe i should roost because it might survive the x4 earthquake but didnt want to risk another scald burn lol
I got realllllly lucky that whole match
Hope you win Izik
I hope [INSERT TEAM SAPPHIRE MEMBER] wins
hopefully there will be another randbats tour later
bo1 randbats is very rng but it seems people are having fun
got so much further than i thought
Whoo! Congrats Myst!
-# Hope you like my mini competition idea in #event-announcements
espurr.........
If no one from Emerald vouches for Espurr I will slide them $20 to do so
@cedar quest icy did join and they joined emerald
Aw I think they should get a chance to pick
They can pick a team if they join, and they seemingly did, but I mean at the time of participation
They weren't in a team
yeeah its fair
Wait how do you join a team?
it's a role selection, but be sure you understand what it means before you join because you can't change after
propaganda time
slazle!
where delelelewooooooooooooooooooooop 
i'm gonna end up putting everyone on the propaganda, won't i 
Do it do it do it
extended propaganda
whip it good
whats so hard about Zigzagoon oh right everything
i nearly died doing this one
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Spriting zigzagoons for my country 🫡
I saw the one on the left and thought all 3 were concept art, thats some phenomenal shading
did you know, that Sapphire team members actually picked the color just to look like contest winners? 
-# this post was made by Ruby gang
did you know, i choked really badly on a green apple? team emerald just tried to assasinate me 
-# this post was made by a rlly fuking tired person who stayed up too late and woke up too early forr prize hunters 
i wish we could think of that, that was probably team NotToEmerald 
It was clearly team sapphire trying to frame us
Hey >:(
Damn sapphires painted my apple green? That's just poisoning 
Obviously we'd choke you with blueberries not an apple, what is this baseless slander >:(
SEE?! Team sapphire is not above murder!
Cause we all know the person named Thorns would never hurt anyone 
I am an innocent angle 😤
How about plums? Cuz i choked on those too
(Dont look at my chat history
Plum is urple
And urple is basically blue
You.
Urple is also basically red
Lots of dark blue are urple
Clearly it was team amathist 
Fake news!
Nah team atheist 
Purple is often used to shade entire characters?
Purple is just a good shading color... Especially for red too
purugly is often used to be cool and awesome sauce
thats a good one too 
Whys it gotta be so funni looking
mean
I love that wide purugly
Awesome sauce indeed
no particular reason why i made it wide or anything trust 
The low res is great 
Mars stealing other ppls propganda 
ive been using that one since day one. how dare you accuse me of stealing

Sus 
Hey Ruby and Emerald! I got us drinks!
They’re completely safe! Only two of them are poisoned!
Trust me!
This is why I eat blue apples
You teams are so smart, I bet you’ll easily figure which ones are poisoned!
woah
(jokes aside I really don't like green apples they are so sour)
(I always need to share my opinion on apples I get very heated about it
)
mm, more green apples for me 😋
I like blue apples :3
I did this exact joke before 
as did i 😌
We have an emote for a niche Mario Kart 8 Deluxe speedrun category?
oh, is that Blue Yourself?
I made the joke before fully considering it but yes that's the name of the speedrun category
how do I join either team ruby or saphire and participate in the event
you can pick one here #pick-your-team
you can't change tho so choose carefully
Ayyyyyyyyy
Does using a custom base give points to the base creator? (if that person was on another team)
no only posters get points
I thought collabs and CA also got points
this might be something that got changed again, so we should probably ask one of the organizers
is there a count of the point or it is only at the end ?
no collabs and CA dont get given points. a workaround if u wanna give ur concept artist the points is to just let them post it to the gallery instead of u. well, unless they updated it ig
theyll use a bot to count all the points at the end
it's not written anywhere :/
I hope they do count them
the galbot do see collabs and concept art iirc, it gets checked by the sprite managers and sometimes they don't get caught but that's why they ask for specific keywords iirc
found it
they should write it in the doc then :/ #event-general message
anyone know if there's a list of trainer cards or the specs? i know the next event will be trainer card spriting
No my plan of making concept art to grab points has failed
/half-joking
Just wait for the cocllab event 
Yeah ik, got some CA in the back that I think are really cool and could maybe score, just don’t know if the event will have a theme…
this chat is very red 
no green in sight...
but your pfp is yellow 
I don't think so ehehe green is best
yellow + blue... 
🟢 🟢 🟢
we have a kirby
shhhh
I hope for the sake of honor none of us are going to spam the smallest easiest fusions that someone's already done.
Just to boost their team numbers.
Because we do get points for repeat fusions.
I found out this morning because someone made castform rainy mightyena and me and tak were about to make it too. Didn't want to waste our time making a repeat if no points.
there's a lot of way to cheese
but the main purpose is to make sprites for the game, so as long as we can keep our heads regarding that, we'll be good
Aw well there goes a funny idea I wanted to get our team to do
Now if we do it we'll be hypocrites 
we're busy in our own chat, making progress
emeralds can't multitask? 
Well we got no reason to write with you guys do we? 
Team Emerald will win
another half hour
won't you join me in #1281689585235267716

Poryjohnathon
So I get the feeling that the challenge bonus points wont be calculated until the end of the event 
Probably
Does anybody know if sprites posted to the gallery via Zigzagoon earn points for Fusion Day?
They shouldn't because the person isn't posting them
Zagbot is
They can fill in the chart though
so should I have it removed and repost it myself then?
seems like a lot of extra work for you guys
Correct, Zagbot sn't on a team 
@cyan gull question im supossed to sumit just my image or the one with the trainer card stuff?
👻 🫵 There's the ghost, gettem
Just the plain image
#1222376526805209201 message I've made a small poll about the current Team Building Exercise, if people looking to enter want to give their input.
Did somebody say, “Ghost?” It’s not even the Dex entry portion yet
There was a ghost ping eheh
Emerald is disqualified for using bots 
Frog said using any AI is grounds for death
👋 😈 bye
didn't Pory say that? 🤔
but... Pory is Team Emerald 
🦎
Where?
Yanmega is also Team Emerald
its yanmega that's emerald
Ye what smart guy said
the rest are neutral
and I feel like yanmega can be more of a problem than a helpful ally at times
-8ball isn't that right
isn't that right
:8ball: Outlook not so good
do you like the team?
:8ball: Signs point to yes
yanmega's just bandwagoning 
Nah yanmega said it disliked the other teams before
-8ball this true?
this true?
:8ball: You may rely on it
is the trainer card thing a custom background for it?
I want a trainer card with doduo heads in this pattern around the edge o-o-o-o-o
One coming out of the other
yeah, this is an example of what it looks like in game
Are the cards being scored based purely on the image itself? Or on how it looks when you overlay the UI also?
Uhhhh @cyan gull can u answer this 
focus is on the card design, but it should work w/ the UI
Aight
@cedar quest #event-announcements message
Do they have to be in gal?
yes
👍
and for people saying "you're not gamr why did you answer" well, it's because the event is my idea xD
Bet you guys cant guess what pokemon Im going to include in my trainer card submission
Combusken
No its obviously marshtomp 
jirachi
i kinda wanna make a trainer card but i rly think i need to focus on spriting fusions
What exactly does “You must put your Discord Username on your submission!” mean? Like we add some text with our username on the submission itself or we add it in the file name in the drive?
You must use the username attached to your discord, for example while in this server my username appears as “Ghost Slythe”, my discord name is ghostslythe
for u, u gotta put this as ur submission username
Just won the RPG event, pretty sure thats +50 points to team sapphire 
pory ping again @cyan gull questions again
can the trainer cards have non pif mons?
Noticed there's technically no collab rule on the card event
If I hypothetically make some sketches of cards I dont wanna make cause im lazy how do points get split?
(If at all)
If it follows concept art rules then the concepter doesn’t get points, only the poster does. In theory the spriter can give points to the concepter by allowing them to post the sprite
better ask pory in case
would be a shame to be disqualified for that
@cyan gull
Sure
Same rules as collabs, so think of how credit would be split in that case
Sooo. If me and orange were to collab, that'd be one entry for both of us?
Concepter doesn't get points, only the submitter gets points
Aight
yeah i know what a username is
so i assume i just add it in the file name of the submission?
Yesh
Alright, thanks
*someone sort of just asked this, but i think they were asking about cards not sprites, and im still confused:
how do Points work with collab sprites? Especially collabs between teams
Was just about to
Where do you get these mystical $222 bills? 
Secrets the Moderators don't want you to know 
it's like rolling a d666
three $2 bills in a row
proof

i'm still working on the trainer card and there's a new contest
Beach Day Contest has no rules about submitting pre-existing sprites so may I?
(I have one specific sprite I'd love to submit that fits the theme)
dw, I'll ping again tomorrow 
oops 
Im gonna spray you again 
so is that a yes or no? I haven't done a judged contest before I genuinely don't know 
#event-announcements message
Its just spriting right?
i'll enter all of them 
that's a no
Darn
just fixed it 
Sorry pal
I'm immune to it by now
Who said it was with pory spray
Beach Day contest is a carbon copy of The Seaside Trial from last year 
whatever you spray me with cannot affect me
nothing is worse than Brazil
it's judged instead of voted
shut
Could I use this as an asset for a new sprite
(I do actually have an idea in mind and I'd remove the face)
Nevermind then, Beach Contest W
Paya suggested it and I didn't think any further 
I'll probably shrink down said beach ball asset too. I gotta focus on my Collab with NTM for now tho 
Concentrated Brazil
I already handle concentrated Brazil everyday on the bus
are all the judges teamless or are we assuming that they wont be biased bc that would be lame 
Well have some more 
wait why does the gas-can look like Kris from deltarune
Bias is grounds for immediate dismissal from the judge position, so I don’t any of them would risk that
that's more biased lmao
or they're not told who's submitting what
I won’t be paying any more attention to the sapphire submissions vs ruby or emerald because I actually want good sprites to win 
time for me to pick only Sapphire judges and have them unable to vote for Sapphire 
no more NTM supremacy

Yeah, the judge sheet doesn’t show the names of entrants
I have a feeling Judges are going to have a bad time bc just submitting a sprite gives points so there could be a lot of job 
KRIS CAN 
Can’t wait to sift through shit to get the delicious corn 
do you ever guess who submits what
i know probably NTM you can
I will summit 3 sprites just for you so the good sprites feel even sweeter :)
I'm just gonna not worry about if something's been done before and just s p r i t e
I’ve only judged the hat contest so far, but I already know that there’s only ~3 people I could recognize the style of in a vacuum like the judging sheet
kris can do what?
Be a 🥫
oh no it's 3:30 for me i need to stop spriting
true.
Does Beach Day include the upcoming pokemon from Hoenn?
we do not know what mon it will be nah ?
What
well, the upcomming will be decided from the event rubbis/saphir/emraud winner ?
No i meant the remaining Hoenn pokemon getting added with the second game
Which you can make sprites with atm but aren't in the game yet
oh yeah totally, even encouraged, more fusion for the new mons
if it's officially in the game or will be, go for it
<@&306953740651462656>
mods break his knees

Fuck you
So there's a thing going on in Sapphire Chat so I'm asking here. What's the process of submitting a sprite for the contest? Does it still go through Spritework like usual?
It can, but for it go go into the drive it's not required
#1050404143807873157 is only required for the gallery, but I'd still encourage #1050404143807873157 for feedback
Shut up scam bot
My god is this a fucking raid??? That's the 4th one today
hey gordo will yanmega get to vote if team emerald wins?
Luckily I got delete perms in this chat so bye bye it goes
it wants to vote
Yanmega is banned because it's AI sprites.... If only it weren't a robot then the sprites wouldn't be AI's... 
no it's not posting sprites, its just like the hundreds of white names in emerald waiting to get a vote
((also just to be clear now, even though Yanmega is on Emerald anything it posts the gallery does not count for points, because it's robot))
also we did find out what yanmega would vote for, and the result is not a surprise
Some of the moderators are gonna wake up to like 6 ghost pings 
The bot never lies lol
zigbot posts to gallery, not yanmega
if i'm not mistaken
You get my point 
Was about to not do spritework because I think the surprise is interesting but I had missed this before so I'll still run it through spritework
It's entirely up to you, the surprise is a valid thing that some people like and think help their scores
Keyword "think"? 
B a l l
I edited the beach ball a good bit please don't shoot me down Pory 😭
or.. burst my balloon 
bust my ball? That feels not correct 

You’re not wrong, but there are sprites that were galleried by Yanmega for some reason. Nothing in 3 months though
For the beach event, is there anything with Whimsicott that could turn out cool? I'm thinking pallosand but I'm not sure.. 
Castform for a sunny cloud, or an ice type to make it ice cream-y?
i have two head pokemon in mind that i hope not too many people dig into
palossand also came to mind! could put litter and stuff stuck in it because pollution
or something
UNDERTALE REFERENCE???
Homestar Runner reference 
ooh wait no Earthbound reference
set in year 199X
Megaman Reference 
which came out first?
Homestar runner... do the kids still make Trogdor references these days? 
the burninator?
I remember when that was added as a song on Guitar Hero 3
But real ones remember “the S is for Sucks” Dragon
my 2 trainer backgrounds 
Throw them in #1050404143807873157 
oh we can do that?
we are allowed? 
Yeah
Would it technically be Player Customization?
Yeah I guess it would
oh man I'm so losing

posted them 
Is it a fusion? 
FAT WURMPLE- Can you repurpose that into a self fusion? 
@cyan gull is the speed spriter EU time on the schedule wrong for EST? It says 12am currently but that would be 6am CET not 6pm 
pm, not AM
👍 you might want to change it on the schedule so other people dont get confused 
Erm actually the times are in EDT people just forget daylights savings is a thing 🤓
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1404993325626429470
I want a blue and red approval before we galpost this last one
I will wait the full hour ofcourse
Wait is that the last one for your chart???
yup
God damn
Well I'll just say that Sapphire is not gonna be even close to being done within the hour 
Hey Ruby Team, lets get together and help Sapphire finish theirs
deal?
@worthy matrix @agile quest feelings?
i wouldnt be against helping but i did 2 sprites today and i dont think i can physically handle spriting anything else
@edgy skiff whats yalls chart like?
Uhhh. I'm. embarrassed
(it's not that bad, we have a bunch of things claimed but not yet sprited*
I don't want to share this without the rest of my team being awake, tho. However I am perfectly fine with suggesting y'all can help with the Theme Blitz! In the meantime while we wait for the rest of Sapphire to wake 
i could send ruby's gallery chart from before seeing izik posted the final sprite and everyone started scrambling hypothetically lol
but i am tired
But yeah I can say that team Sapphire doesn't even have all of its slots claimed so we were hardly even in this race even if we did a big push towards the end of today
apologies mudkip
sapphire underdog moments
ultimately im not super competitive as long as something i dont hate gets in im happy
<@&900867033175040101> Can yall post sapphire's chart so we can finish it? that way red and green arent the only ones done?
btw izik if you get the uhh like most points thing. what pokemon line would you add
im genuinely curious
Team Sapphire does not consent to this
Nothing says they have to all finish on the same day 
But GordoGamR can I suggest something 
@edgy skiff you said u had a suggestion
yeye gimme
Unless it's more bonus mons
I told you 15 was enough see 
What if Emerald and Ruby tied for first place after all of this. They get 16 points each and Team Sapphire by default gets 2nd place and wins 8 points 
Meh Komala? Maybe? I dont care enough I'm just in it to help green
Don't steal other ppls charts 
They can finish their chart yeah
not komala 
If you wanna block Sapphire outta more points, just go do the Carvahna blitz 
im being dramatic its fine its just not something i love
Honestly the other teams have literally so much to gain from doing the blitz 
i care more about having fun than winning so im not pushing myself very hard
I am honestly curious how far along sapphire is on their chart
Ok so like first
The blitz seemed like bs
But like here's the thing
It's outside of Fusion Day, so it's not like finishing it gives even more points y'know?
These are just mons that could've been done, blitz or not
Exactly
All the blitz does is put attention on them
This is what Team Sapphire has been saying literally this entire time 
Actually my EXACT talking points 
I've been doing events for a long time, I know the logic behind it all
But if I would've known about it, still would've held off for now
It was so silly watching people complain about it when there are totally things the other teams could do to counteract it 
Because attention on a team like that is always going to look like favoritism to those who don't wanna look deeper, and that's just bad PR for events that I don't wanna deal with 
Yeahh. Didn't help that both the event host and the one who suggested the theme both turned out to be team Sapphire 
It should've been the same buzz that Team Sapphire had when Grey and Hunter were on team Ruby. A funny joke that the event hosts are on the enemy team. But the complaints got surprisingly serious at times, at least from what I remember
All just a little silly
im going to eat my dinner but my final message; if team emerald wins vote sewaddle. thank you
okay, I got a question regarding the trainer id card thing
what's the 'Flag'?
I've been making something in the small scale and now I'm not sure what it's for
I think it refers to these
Here, I'll post this for those curious about Sapphire's sheet because this doesn't tell you what order everything is in
(the order is so scuffed on god)
And also it's incredibly inconvenient being this small 
Okay, so why exactly Should you be making one? What does it have to do with the trainer card things?
I love that this isnt visible
I can't in good faith genuinely give away what we have left when I'm pretty sure most of Sapphire is asleep
Okay, it's late and I'm gonna go to sleep, I hope I can get some answers tomorrow because I'm still confused.
you can do whatever you want for it for my understnading
i havent seen anyone doing flags in our team of the wips ive been sent
Fyi this is what I've been doing for the past hour or so
I have still yet to make an actual trainer card background
this is my concept for one of my entries
i checked and the lineart looks decent to scale so its fine
I'm planning to make a background for each of the weather effects
You can do the Blitz, that's what I'll be doing for the next hour or so and tomorrow
ok dont hate me but
Can I have your completed chart?
i cant find it
ofcourse
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1izMA_ZSOmDNto3jWKwXKX3bCfed5JPvMWnX85xoYekQ/edit?gid=0#gid=0
We also fixed an error on the original emerald chart
Look closely at the castform/rayquaza in the charts post
Oh dang thats p similar to what I was gonna do
I was just gonna line it up different
It is a pretty common theme so its not too surprising
Just funny ig lol
Okay, so can you explain to me what the 'flag' is for?
I just now realized there was a difference between the actual trainer card image and whatever the flag is
so I'm confused
Maybe I'm just too tired for my brain to catch up
I'm going to bed now.
It would be really cool if once we all completed our charts all 3 teams got together to sprite the combinations of all 45 pokemon together
Thats 2000 sprites
Did you ever get the chart 
I did not
I'm still waiting 
Please give it to me 
I mean
Unless you want us to complete ours first 
I have the sheet?
If thats okay with you
Last chart update was before finishing
Or i could get someone to make it
Oh mira made a zip file
I think
Yeah with all current galleries sprites st the time
Zip 

I do have a favor to ask though
Go ahead
I could quickly
I'll wait for that, but know that doesn't change your placement or anything - this is the win on that rn
Makes it easier for me to post
I see the small mons strat page 


