event-general

[lusty crystal]

I want to do a straight line seminar

[steel vortex]

I give critique by focusing on technical errors (outlines, shading etc), if I can visually interpret the sprite/fusion, and any suggestions I may have or ideas to spice it up :D

I also try to focus on different parts at a time, or the whole thing, when complementing

If that helps

[livid tulip]

Or Cryogonal. I can see that one for Christmas too

[rough talon]

hm omg actually

i could be good with design critique :D

i really like designs and how they function and that might be good

that 2 second reaction on nudgy's message 😭

[livid tulip]

Fearow is not blindfolded, either.

[steel vortex]

There's no line emoji

[civic mauve]

That’s the head’s problem then

[livid tulip]

Yep.

[torn dawn]

whee 42 points!!

[slow gyro]

I can see IF without cryogonal, but I can’t see IF without Spheal

[lusty crystal]

Damn I missed it they seem to be gone now

[torn dawn]

I am so happy to see my girl being approved by the mods

[rough talon]

honestly these are the best birdlike creatures ive drawn because i rarely draw (and i DONT draw birds especially) so i definitely feel like im not exactly qualified to say much

theres a lot of issues even if they look good....

[steel vortex]

Very pretty!

[torn dawn]

slay

[rough talon]

though i guess i know technicals about birds

[steel vortex]

I have an owl and harpie oc so if I didn't know how to do wings, I'd be ashamed xD

[rough talon]

lmfao

[steel vortex]

Very cute! Saw your base

[rough talon]

@primal iron hey since you have really good wings and assume you're a lover of birds as well and if not at least can draw them, do you think that i should go for doing a bird seminar?

[heady moat]

I could see Archen/Archeops for Christmas - They're from the past, which comes just before the presents

[primal iron]

What do you mean? Like you want to give a seminar?

[rough talon]

ya :)

there's some wing inconsistencies and the foots weird ont he left but the first is kind of super old...i suppose i could try and study up before doing one? polish my rough edges, get some notes

[primal iron]

If you feel comfortable doing so go for it, but you mentionned you don't really draw birds so maybe a different topic would work better for you?

[rough talon]

well its funny

i dont draw birds often but

[livid tulip]

[rough talon]

i'm generally very nerdy about them and do know how to just subconsciously?

its hard to explain

which is why im TORN

i suppose i'll just have to draw a bunch of birds and see how rusty i am lmao

oh my god wait this reminds me

[primal iron]

I think to teach something in a way that others can understand you have to know your topic on a deeper level, you can't just say "that's just how it works", you have to be able to show people why it works the way it does so they can process it better. If you want to study up a bit to fill in the blanks you might have, then offer a class on it, totally go for it ^^

[rough talon]

thank you :)

i do know how to explain it but i suppose its more the technical animal bits so drawing em will help me get that feeling

didnt mean to select the first but its birds anyways so. but the mongus 😭

I THINK ABOUT IT EVER TIME I TALK ABT BIRDS I DRAW

[primal iron]

lolll

[grand karma]

Wow, 3rd place, I certainly didn't think it would score so high !

[steel vortex]

You're banned fro that right top one smh

Also love the zoop neck heron!

[steel vortex]

Congrat!

[rough talon]

green herons are my favorite

they are so funny

[steel vortex]

Great blue herons are mine!

[rough talon]

my overall favorite bird is hard but i think it's scripps murrelet just in appearance because they look so polite

but in personality i think any parrot has to take that crown, they're so evil lmao

but in the way a toddler is

which makes it so much better

i love watching wild parrots like, yank the tail of another bird to get them away from food and stuff

[steel vortex]

My fave is between Snowy Owl and GBH
Omg yes! Such a cute baby, auk right?
And parrots are amazingly chaotic

[limpid sphinx]

youre crazy XD

[rough talon]

yes, auk!

[steel vortex]

:D

[rough talon]

i love owls but i definitely think im vaguely afraid of barn owls even if i like them

they're native to my area and i have had at LEAST a few moments of dread hearing them screech

[steel vortex]

I don't blame you, anything that makes that sound and can fly silently is a demon in disguise xD

[rough talon]

yeah and that quite and regal? god, its insane

ive met a female barn in person before and they're so massive

i'd hate to be a mouse in a world with a barn owl in it

[silver solar]

Oh, barn owls are absolutely a different level from other owls

There’s 2 groups of owls, Tyto and Strigidae

[rough talon]

ya! im such a fan of that fact

[silver solar]

Barn owls are Tyto and are the more demonic ones lol

[rough talon]

its so weird. why are tytonidae owls like that..

[silver solar]

They are however, insanely good mousers

[steel vortex]

Mhm x)
Massive, but light still ahaha! We have great horns and I have seen one small maybe barred owl

Tytos built different lmao

[silver solar]

Great horns are probably the most dangerous owl in terms of your pets

But, that just means be careful

[rough talon]

that talon grip strength is terrifying

dont know why people think their cats can face against great horns

[steel vortex]

Gosh I hope no one considers one as a pet 😭
Also oh sorry, meant they're native to my area!

[silver solar]

They do actually hunt cats

[silver solar]

Oh, i meant they’re dangerous for your pets, not as a pet (owls arent pets)

[steel vortex]

Mhm, keep my babies indoors for that

Ah gotcha!

[silver solar]

But, that just means you have to be more attentive with pets

[rough talon]

harpies and great horneds having about 500~ psi recorded as max grip strength is deeply horrifying

[silver solar]

No tying up a chi outside

[rough talon]

i heard the fact about harpy eagles ripping sloths off of trees mid air and was like

"What,"

[steel vortex]

Oh Harpies are amazing birds! Still can't get over their size

[silver solar]

Sadly some people hear that great horns are the only owls known to regularly go after cats and small dogs and use that as an excuse to attack em

[steel vortex]

And very very scary for monkies

[lusty crystal]

Nice I can do a tree fusion for contest

[rough talon]

their fault for letting their pet out at night 😭 😭

[steel vortex]

More plants!

[rough talon]

unattended too 😭 😭 that happens its so insane

[silver solar]

Juvenile red tails will also potentially attempt small pets

But they’re young and bold and stupid

Thats why they would do it

[steel vortex]

We definitely have red-tail hawks

[silver solar]

Honestly, attend them during the day too

Supervision is the best way to keep them safe

[rough talon]

yeah, honestly

i dont think unattended pets is ever a good idea...

crazy how people think it is

[silver solar]

The owls could absolutely hunt during the day if they’re desperate

[lunar comet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1147807556933275669/1148009080665944234/237.430a.png we still doing feedback?

[rough talon]

i think its pretty late LMAO

but you could ping a contest manager

[silver solar]

Eh, sometimes its ok as long as you know where they are and can at least hear them. But not for small ones

[lunar comet]

Yeah ik, I was asleep

Rip

[silver solar]

Like, putting your dog on one of those long run lines

[rough talon]

maybe we could also move our convo to #spriter-general-lounge just in case

[silver solar]

And just relaxing inside because you dont wanna ne outside

Eww no

[rough talon]

HJFSJKD

[silver solar]

That has slow mode

[steel vortex]

Hmm not sure tbh, I liked it x)

[steel vortex]

#off-topic ?

[rough talon]

maybe its just hard to find a channel that has an opening for chatter

[steel vortex]

Or just #spriter-general tbh

[silver solar]

Yeah

[steel vortex]

Yeah I don't wanna cut off convos

[silver solar]

Spriter general is just a general channel safer from trolls and the bajillion people who join

[rough talon]

yeah i think we can go to spriter general, seems free

[plucky arch]

go submit for birthday contest

[crude cedar]

@grand karma yours was my fav entry!

[steel vortex]

I'm outlining my birthday wip rn

[lusty crystal]

I’ve completely restarted my birthday submittion

[lunar comet]

Relax, we've got 4 whole days

[plucky arch]

just reminding the masses

[grand karma]

Thank you, that's so nice

[lusty crystal]

I probs won’t be doing much in terms of my submission tomorrow, got other things I want to do

[wraith notch]

I've been busy the last few days moving back into student accomodation, but I have a bit more time before uni comes back.

[naive summit]

🔫 staff give me feedback on my cottonee or else

if it's the leaf colors I'm still debating between like 6 different options lol

[misty acorn]

congrats to the winners!

(was that merums first contest win? 👀 )

[steel vortex]

So cute! I see no issues, the green does stand out is all I think

[naive summit]

I think so! They had second and third placements before though iirc

[misty acorn]

damn thats crazy

[naive summit]

Probopass sweep

[misty acorn]

well they finally got what they deserve

[naive summit]

Yeah that's valid lmao, I have a thing with like 5 different options somewhere in the thread for it that I'm still considering

Colors are hard

[misty acorn]

wait I just realized that clefable completionist is gone

🥲

[naive summit]

All of them are

[steel vortex]

Understandable xD

[raven pulsar]

staff has a probopass biass

[steel vortex]

None of them are 100% anymore

[naive summit]

We really don't honestly, Merum is just really good at spriting them

[misty acorn]

I will find you 🔫

[steel vortex]

Hi

[worthy shuttle]

Can someone give me a good Pokémon to fuse with wooper

As a head

Not body

[subtle moss]

Oddish

eh, that's probably been done already

[misty acorn]

flaffy

[worthy shuttle]

That’s a bit oddish don’t you think

[subtle moss]

Only humor of the highest caliber here folks

[worthy shuttle]

Looking at daena for sprites

Trying to get past the 100 custom wooper bases

I have decided

Meganium/wooper

[outer loom]

feedback? 🥺 👉 👈

[rough talon]

the even-ness of the. Uh. Ribbons???? on the sides of the head feels really weird. like, they're JUST slightly off

but also the one that is slightly off is not the one that should be

since its closer to the body, i imagined it draping over the body rather than sticking down, or being behind it

the other one being shorter just makes me confused because its like, kind of awkward looking

also, the dithering feels bad because it goes too long down. the shading generally feels strange on them, the one on the left should be more exposed to the light rather than in shadow

[misty acorn]

yeah the sprite technically looks good, but the pose is also a little stiff and boring for a dance themed mom

[rough talon]

that too

i think the design could also use some tweaks, like turning the head ribbons into "limbs" or something similar could work really well for making a more interesting design

[misty acorn]

okay pulpa thats enough

[rough talon]

also, milotic's whiskers could help with the headpiece a little bit

HELP

okay :)

[misty acorn]

blaq is already gonna ban you at least 3 times when he wakes up for feedback outside of spritework

[rough talon]

HSGUIKDOFIJFIAJDISHNDIJAUFNAISNUSFN

WELL OK. the contests over

its fiiiiiiiiine

[sweating]

[uncut shadow]

Will we get another seminar like we had today? Because it was so fun and educating

[lusty crystal]

I will do one in 2057

[sick herald]

shame, not as good as i wanted

[subtle moss]

Honestly I think my sprite scored highly mainly for creativity. I don't think my sprite was technically superior to many of the sprites that ranked lower.

Imma have to work on that next time

[odd garnet]

MerU finally won

Nice!

...

MY TURN!

Hahahahaha

[sick herald]

which one was yours

[rough talon]

i know im doing one!

its gonna be a while though because uh

. im gonna do one about birds HNGKSADJKSKSD

[odd garnet]

What could have I done better for my sprite to escape that joint 3rd place?

[dim shuttle]

THE HITMONLEE ONE OH MY GOD

Hotmonlee? Hitcancanlee

[indigo ice]

congrats everyone! 33rd place is definitely my best so far, I still could've worked on the posw but its not as easy with milotic to make fun poses without muddling things but that's ok! it's all about trial and error despite there being no more mini contests to trial with

[pulsar kite]

oh wow i ranked a lot lower than i thought i would, even though i liked my submission this time more than the previous mini contest i entered

there were a ton of good submissions though

but i was surprised by my rankings honestly

you dont like buny?

[devout cloud]

not what I wanted, but it was far from the best

[dim shuttle]

Omg theyre both so beautiful

[devout cloud]

also 3 probopass in top 3 in the last 3 events is kinda sussy

[subtle moss]

next contest is a probopass contest

[dim shuttle]

There comes a point when meme factor overrides good ideas unfortunately

[pulsar kite]

they're just so technically clean and well made none of the judges have a reason to dock points

[indigo ice]

if I see one more SCHNOZZ

[vestal token]

I mean the probopasses have been good at least

[plush vale]

it's one spriter doing em all it aint necesarry bias so much as just a solid spriter

[devout cloud]

yeah but far from the best
there is blatantly some bias

[subtle moss]

that is your opinion

[indigo ice]

who has the nose bias

[dim shuttle]

Well hey huge congrats to the artist who drew our beautiful nosey queen

[indigo ice]

maybe meru is just good at spriting and making sprites that convey the fusion while also being interesting to look at. is there xeno/roserade bias as well because he was top 3 in the past contests. what im saying is believing in bias is just a little bit silly and it completely discredits the work of spriters who have done well

[pulsar kite]

everyone was just very neutral on my sillygirl i guess

[vestal token]

Same for mine

[pulsar kite]

i wonder how many judges thought the open mouth was a beak in a wonky angle, haha

[indigo ice]

the legs feel a bit iffy on that one

[vestal token]

I made 2 but posted the safer one

[indigo ice]

I think i can see your vision with the leg perspective but its not executed in the best way :'D

[pulsar kite]

i was actually quite happy with it

[vestal token]

the top leg is messing with my head, I can't tell if it's supposed to be straight or bent

[pulsar kite]

it's bent, what's front is the knee

heres my sketch

anyway i just thought last time my entry was a lot weaker but it ranked well

[vestal token]

I personally don't know how to change it tbh, it's definitely a good one

[pulsar kite]

i went back and edited this one after the contest because i wasnt super happy with the pose :'D

[vestal token]

that ones really good too :0

[pulsar kite]

thank you!!

that one ranked 15th in the contest

i go for accuracy in the gen5 style which is surprisingly simplistic but i guess it doesn't impress as many judges :'D

[versed ridge]

why did mine get 2 zeroes

smh

[sly hatch]

i have now decided. screw accuracy im gonna do what I want

[rough talon]

hey uh

i havae a question

[pulsar kite]

i also have this still unfinished lop that i considered a second option but i liked the first one and didnt finish this one in time for the contest

[rough talon]

i have wip designs i need to decide from and am unsure where to post them?

[pulsar kite]

(i'll finish it sometime)

[rough talon]

#spriter-general maybe but it says not to post wips, and im really unsure about #artwork or something

i just want to get feedback on what i should go with going forward

[pulsar kite]

#spriting-discussion ?

[dense jackal]

#spriting-discussion then 🙂

[rough talon]

i did post it there but its hard to get traction yeah

well, maybe i just wait

im just nervous because of the time i have to submit for the challenge

and the ideas i want to do.

but, its more a generalized fear of how my work is and how fast i work in the first place

hopefully people vote

obviously for anyone here, pretty pleasies vote

[dense jackal]

It's been only twenty minutes and you already have 2 votes. What more do you expect 😛

No, sorry you have 4 votes already!

[rough talon]

AA REALLY

ok sorry time dilation is the problem here

[stray condor]

Huh jumped from 90th in the tyrantrum contest to 44th this time even tho the sprite is far simpler and a tad bit rushed

[wintry sky]

You are so good at shading what

[half rapids]

damn all of these trevenant fusions are baller.

[versed ridge]

I got 73rd because of 2 0s

🥹

[rough talon]

what one was yours?

[versed ridge]

Umbreon

[surreal folio]

i got 138th

i knew i did bad but come on

[versed ridge]

Im guessing someone just hates reference sprites

[indigo ice]

its pretty hard to tell whats going on with the head

[versed ridge]

Its a long neck with a blindfolded head i dont see whats wrong

[plucky arch]

shading is very oily, and i cant tell quite what it is

i dont get why its a blindfolding flamingo

[plucky arch]

tbf you prolly got screwed a little cause yours showed up first

[rough talon]

agreed. i dont know which oricorio it is. i do think its a neat reference, but i think for contests references like this are not advisable

[versed ridge]

Problem is all of my sprites are references

[plucky arch]

when making a reference: fusion first

[rough talon]

a

well

that is kind of like. Idk

[plucky arch]

cause the thing is

[rough talon]

just do something different!

[versed ridge]

I still try to make the pokemon at least noticeable

[rough talon]

if its a gimmick you've set for yourself Don't. Don't Limit Yourself Like That

[versed ridge]

People could tell it was oricorio at least when i showed that to them

[plucky arch]

ive never played lobo corp, i only know its a reference cause i was told, for me its just a rly weird sprite

[versed ridge]

Too bad

[rough talon]

well prolly shouldn't complain abt getting low

regardless you still got 73rd

[versed ridge]

Tbf the creepy character with the flamboyant pose is pretty off putting
But I didn't know how else to make Oricorio more obvious 🥹

[indigo ice]

well the long neck wouldn't really come from either base mon, and your attitude to Reference or Nothing may reflect on your score

[plucky arch]

when making a reference sprite, #1 priority is making sure the fusion is visible

[versed ridge]

I am aware

[rough talon]

colors. i dont know what oricorio it is especially because of the colors

[versed ridge]

If I didn't i would just make the reference as is and not change anything

[rough talon]

or, if not that at least some more aspects from oricorio

[versed ridge]

Umbreon is the head tbf so i cant really use oricorio colors

[rough talon]

instead of just using the reference's body

[versed ridge]

I considered making the yellow parts red instead but then umbreon would be harder to tell

[rough talon]

shrugs. again, i think you're limiting yourself

this couldve been a reference with a lot more aspects of the pokemon you used, but as it stands all i can see is the reference.

[versed ridge]

How is using the colors of the head of the mon limiting 😭

[rough talon]

didnt mean to reply to that

i was going to say that you could use both but that's because i've seen fusions who've done so and have been fine.

its really about how you utilize the colors, anyways

[versed ridge]

Again i wanted to use red but i didn't think it made umbreon clear enough

I didn't come in expecting to win anyway i just thought it would be at least top 50

[rough talon]

i think that just loops back to me thinking that you could've done more with this design then, i dont really know how to help you under the pretense of doing something so strict

[indigo ice]

my issues with it in a technicality standpoint is that I can't really tell where the neck is suppose to attatch to the head, and the base part of the neck feels more like its an extended part of the body (blue line) rather than what i think it was suppose to be (green line), so the neck feels more like an arm that's holding up the head, that's genuinely what I thought was going on until I was told it was a long neck

[wanton swift]

oricorio hitmonlee slayed

[rough talon]

TRUE LMAO

i think coming to a contest with any expectations is a bad idea

[versed ridge]

Fair

[rough talon]

Like. Especially here

and i feel that for me i've just shrugged it off and its been better for me

i... didnt know that getting 66th was super high for me honestly until i checked all the other entries

[winter sparrow]

damn i'll choose to git gud next time

a very adequate sprite 👍

[west canopy]

Is there a contest for Trevenant?

[versed ridge]

Nop

[west canopy]

K

[surreal folio]

im not making any more early mons

well

in number

[wintry sky]

Let's go bottom 20 🎉

[surreal folio]

fr

[winter sparrow]

30 points, I think I'm in good company

[versed ridge]

Shame there aren't more mini contests

[winter sparrow]

but I'm shocked at the number of things lower than mine that i feel are better

[indigo ice]

I've chosen to not focus on my overall placement but my individual scoring and seeing what the average consensus was. higher scores mean I need to focus on smaller things lower scores mean there's a big issue. and I got a random 1 again so idk who that is but of its the same person that voted 1 for mt last one then LOL

[fickle vortex]

oh i didn't realize you can see how you were ranked

[winter sparrow]

yeah it's under "RESULTS" tab

[fickle vortex]

is there an easy way to find mine or do i just powerscroll

[indigo ice]

powerscroll

[winter sparrow]

man this "whoever" guy has some real high standards. i should do better

[fickle vortex]

fair enough

[indigo ice]

33rd is not at all bad for my dude (better than last contests) I actually scrolled past mine initially thinking itd be lower

[fickle vortex]

OUGH DAMN-

[winter sparrow]

for my first contest i guess... not being dead last is good?

[versed ridge]

True

Silver lining

[indigo ice]

definitely!!

[winter sparrow]

especially since its the first sprite ive drawn from scratch

[plucky arch]

oh,,, 40, wow thats a lot

[indigo ice]

I said this last time but my mindset when making contest sprites is . Make a sprite for the Contest not one for the game. like obviously it should fit the game style but if you make it under the mindset of purely This is for the game then you'll underscore no matter the talent tbh

[indigo ice]

was that you

[plucky arch]

thats over 1/3 of all 0s wow

[winter sparrow]

nah i just made my sprite because i thought "oh referencing Aknosom from MH:Rise would be fun" and it was fun and i stand by it

[indigo ice]

shoutout to individual scoring me a solid 5 :)

[winter sparrow]

though it was much less of a reference by the end

[versed ridge]

I got a few 4s at least

[winter sparrow]

im happy to get no 0s

[versed ridge]

Like i got good scores it's literally only the 2 0s that brought it down

If not for that i could have placed a bit higher i think

[winter sparrow]

tbf they did not rate me 0 so i'm good? 🤔

[indigo ice]

wait I got 5 4s im so happy axtually

[winter sparrow]

no 4s or 5s either so I assume I am perfectly average at spriting and thus the best 😎

[fickle vortex]

I'll take my 3 2's lmao 🙌

[versed ridge]

Its a shame no more minicontests

[winter sparrow]

speaking of I need to get back on my birthday contest sprite

i literally just have to draw out the [redacted] and i should be able to get it into spritework

[indigo ice]

0 - 0 , 1 - 1 , 2 - 2 , 3 - 5 , 4 - 5 , 5 - 1

so it's definitely better than average for me in this case

but im not winning everyone's hearts and that would only continue to matter if i enter the bday contest but moving has been HELLL

[versed ridge]

I cannot find motivation to do the bday contest

[indigo ice]

I could repurpose my trev sprite for the busy contest

[versed ridge]

Nothing is really sparking for me

[indigo ice]

it was trev/blaz

[sick herald]

same

[winter sparrow]

i mean is the bday contest allowing trevenant since it released after the announcement 🤔

[indigo ice]

yeah :)

[versed ridge]

No ideas still

[winter sparrow]

oh good

[versed ridge]

(I cant think of any more references)

[indigo ice]

check announcements after the winners announcement

then dont.. do references....

[versed ridge]

No

Its my whole gimmick and i am adamant about only doing references

[indigo ice]

ok then !

hmg

[versed ridge]

I will never do a nom reference sprite !!!

[winter sparrow]

honestly this contest contains [REDACTED] which is important because the fusion that got me into spriting at all was an autogen of it
and I didn't have the skill to do it then but so far on the birthday contest sprite i think I'm cooking

so in this case I am making a sprite for the game because shockingly it's just... not in the game

[indigo ice]

OH YEAJ DONT WOREY I meant make sprites for the game but add the contest flair when o was talking about my thing (not talking about ur specific entry ur doing rn though) it's a rhetoric that works better in thoughts than words

I dont remember what got me into this game..

[versed ridge]

I found out about PIF through the calculator when it was trending a while back

It all started when i wanted to make an Eva 01 sprite with Nidoking and Deoxys

[indigo ice]

ok I think that might have been how I did too and then . WAIT it was this swampert cross something fusion that was mh reference and I was trying to figure out what the Fuck it was. idk how I got to the reddit page though

[winter sparrow]

i think the subreddit just appeared on my feed one day and i thought "oh i havent played that in a while"
then i wanted to do a run of it and just saw The Autogen and thought "oh i can fix that"
if this filename is any indication i clearly could not

but that was like a month ago and i've improved greatly

(i scrapped it completely and redrew the mon from scratch)

[versed ridge]

Lagiacrus

Gyarados

[indigo ice]

YEAH

that one

[versed ridge]

"Obvious fusion in reference" mfs when i show them Swampert/Gyarados

[indigo ice]

actually wait. yeah you've got me thinking I think I might have been on the subreddit for another pkmn fangame ans then if was in my recommended communities

[winter sparrow]

actually no i might have seen someone in another server show off their MH fusion run and then I started on randomizer and saw The Autogen

[rapid knot]

This is the first time I've gotten some fives on my score! I feel like I'm really making progress!

[outer valve]

I got 29th place with this, im very happy about it, but anybody know what i could improve?

[winter sparrow]

there isn't much dark outlining on the pink bit above the teapot

the shading there actually looks reversed

on the spiral bit

[livid tulip]

Last contest were Third place (Tyrantrum), Second place (Glalie) and now First place (Oricorio). Like climbing stairs🪜

So yeah, first contest winning

Thanks!!

[winter sparrow]

🥳

[broken robin]

Well deserved meru

[livid tulip]

Thanks!!

[grand tusk]

high standards or just standards

[winter sparrow]

true

[grand tusk]

you see, there is actually a secret bias. Don't leak this to anyone when I tell you this, but the judges are biased towards "good sprites" that are "made well"

its bullshit, why isn't my kaiju VFX reference sprite getting all 5, smh smh smh

[winter sparrow]

damn no way thats crazy

i successfully dodged 0s so its a start

[rapid knot]

I keep seeing the abreviation smh, but I don't actually know what it stands for. Could someone fill me in?

[plucky arch]

shaking my head

[plucky arch]

as a judge, Meru just does rly good shit, great shading, creative fusion, always a custom pose, and very clear, all of which are things we look for

[livid tulip]

Well, that was hard to me to win a contest so I only needed to work harder. Considering this contest even had a tie, I almost lose this one too. I wouldn't live that stress of being close to win two times if the jury were biased on Probo (which actually is a really unpopular Pokémon, for my misfortune)
If you have a favorite Pokémon and you know how to get its full potential, you could possibly make great fusions. Maybe they won't be Gardevoir that stand out for their beauty, or dragons that stand out for how cool they are, but you can impress the jury by making a solid design that shines by itself. And that's what I try to do everytime I do a fusion, especially if it's a Probopass fusion, because as my favorite Pokémon I wanted to win using it.

[crystal basalt]

two contests at once, wild times

[livid tulip]

Now that I won, I have two ideas, of retirement or trying to participate outside my comfort zone. Decisions decisions.

[crystal basalt]

If you win two in a row you get ultimate contest winner and gain ownership of the whole server

[heady moat]

Meru is also impressive because it's hard enough for me to keep making unique Meowth poses, who has four limbs and a humanoid shape. The fact Meru can consistently make unique poses for one of the least flexible Pokemon in history is nothing short of witchcraft

[winter sparrow]

i mean the mini-noses help a lot with that tbh. i think Nosepass would be harder

[heady moat]

Well yeah there's harder Pokemon to pose, but Probopass is undoubtedly a really difficult one

[plush vale]

and he does it all pro bono 😛

[livid tulip]

Winning a contest about a Pokémon as feminine as Oricorio wasn't something I expected, that's for sure

[heady moat]

Mods ban this jokester

[livid tulip]

I think Nosepass can be versatile. I feel harder make a body fusion for them that looks like Nosepass, because the "head is the entire body, with arms and legs" is a body shape that other Pokemon have as well like Jighlypuff and Gengar, and if you do the wrong changes you can make the fusion unclear

[grand tusk]

I think Merum next contest you need to win without probopass to spite this user

[livid tulip]

(that happened to me once and I had to redesign it almost entirely )

[grand tusk]

win with nosepass now

[heady moat]

Win with a Probohead

[livid tulip]

Lmao

[winter sparrow]

yeah my thought was like

nosepass has a few design points that you can add to make it look more like The Nose, but Probopass has even more options

[plucky arch]

i rly gonna make my fusion chart dont i

i gotta finish transferring all my pokemon over

ive made

2 nosepass fusions?

Nosepass/Oddish and Nosepass/Gloom

[livid tulip]

Ye, at the moment I edited the nose for my fusion, among other details, everyone couldn't tell what Pokémon was supposed to be
I had no problems to redesign it tho. It's better for me, as artist and as designer, reading the feedback to improve my works. Failing at something is not something to be ashamed of, but something to learn to be better in the future.

But imo, I think that if you love a Pokémon, you can exploit their potential. Just like Xeno does with Roserade, for example

[plucky arch]

every group of judges needs a simon cowell

[livid tulip]

Epic

[whole apex]

i’m very happy with my placement don’t get me wrong, but i’d love to know why the outlier 0

[plucky arch]

pillowshading

or more,, like, Gradient Shading ig

[indigo ice]

where is Joe bastianach the worst reality TV judge ever

[grand tusk]

if everyone is lowballed, nobody is

[livid tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/syndrome-incredibles-when-everyones-super-gif-10466529

[grand tusk]

its the opposite in this case

and when everybody's shit as spriting..... no one is

[west canopy]

Should I compete in the next contest?

[plucky arch]

theres one goin on rn

[west canopy]

Oh?

[plucky arch]

#event-announcements message

[livid tulip]

I feel Birthday contest will be really funny

[west canopy]

Oh Glaceon? Sick

[limpid sphinx]

they give me a 0 too 🙂

[whole apex]

wish i was following, unfortunately i am not

[limpid sphinx]

my last contest

👁️

[plush vale]

why last

[limpid sphinx]

im retired

[plucky arch]

on the leg, it goes from Highlight, to Normal, to Dark, to Darker in like 7 pixels

all of them being the same length

[limpid sphinx]

i want to know why my zero too

since i didnt posted yet

[plush vale]

but what if a mon you really like gets a mini contest

[whole apex]

ok fair, but a 0 for one leg, give me some grace pls

[limpid sphinx]

maybe i can try a shot

but i think that im not good enough for a good contest placement so well

maybe one day

[wind matrix]

@plucky arch is way too strict

[arctic garnet]

I got top 25!

[steel vortex]

Name fits

[plucky arch]

maybe youre just way too lax

[wind matrix]

0s should only be reserved for unclear fusions and sprites that don't follow the basic format

[versed ridge]

Me who got 2 0s 🥹

[wind matrix]

At any rate, I completly missed the reveal/feedback time. So if any of you still want feedback on your contest entries, let me know

[livid tulip]

Rate my contest entry /jk

[wind matrix]

why are there too arms, and I thought the mustache was a wing for a hot minute

[livid tulip]

Smh terrible, awful

[winter sparrow]

just found yours again. man

[wind matrix]

congrats on winning

[livid tulip]

Thanks

[limpid sphinx]

give me feedback 😭

[wind matrix]

the fire blends in with the red body too much

not worth a 0 tho

[winter sparrow]

feedback on my sadness? (30 points 🥳)

[limpid sphinx]

tell that to whoever xd

how i can improve that?

its not posted yet

[heady moat]

Could I get feedback on mine? I'm fairly certain a big issue was it not looking enough like Oricorio, but I'm curious if there was anything else

[winter sparrow]

the lighting is weird on the head

[heady moat]

Ooh, definitely see that now, good point!

I had originally drawn that head pointing to the right, then decided to flip the sprite later - Totally forgot to reshade the head lol

[wind matrix]

pose is a bit stilted, and the area where the head is, is too cluttered

[wind matrix]

i would use a different colour for the fire. maybe orcori's shiny colours?

[heady moat]

The curves feel pretty jagged in places, namely on the wings and neck imo

[winter sparrow]

that might've done it yeah. too much reference in my reference fusion 😔

[heady moat]

What's it a reference to?

[sick herald]

thought this was pretty good, whats the problem with it?

[winter sparrow]

Aknosom from MH:Rise

i plan on making an alt that uses those colors whenever im done with my contest sprite

[heady moat]

Ooooh, I can see it now

That's a pretty subtle reference

[winter sparrow]

the lighting on the tail is a little weird

[winter sparrow]

yeah it became less reference over time once i realized I had to smash a lot of the referency bits

[wind matrix]

it's a good pose, and a good design. But the colours don't flow well on the arms. you have the blue arm overlaping the blue bits of body, and the red hand overlaping the red part of the body a bit too much. It make it hard for the eye to read what's going on

[limpid sphinx]

the black?

[heady moat]

Gotcha! That's a good callout

[plucky arch]

0s are for sprites with technical errors

including shading

[limpid sphinx]

tell me on mine tell me on mine

just the fire thing or something more

[plucky arch]

galarian moltres base

[sick herald]

wait datorre what was ur sprite?

[sick herald]

can u not use regional forms?

[wind matrix]

the body is far more like larvesta body then volcarona. left wing is a bit too big. (and the design is a bit plain compared to the other volcarona/orcorio)

[limpid sphinx]

its a free hand

🙂

#1149180494752256120

[plucky arch]

it still seems to be more based on galarian moltres

[sick herald]

this goes hard

[winter sparrow]

i only just figured out how to explain it uhh
there shouldnt be the lighter shade on the bottom part of that tail(?)

[limpid sphinx]

just the colors

[wind matrix]

didn't know the shiny was black lol
could try it and see if it looks better ig

[limpid sphinx]

on the fire

[sick herald]

i mean it doesn't rlly matter if its plain compared to the other one

idrc about that

[limpid sphinx]

and since moltres is the body, the fire can have any color

or water

or sand

[plucky arch]

thats just my two cents

[limpid sphinx]

or trash on garbodor situations

[winter sparrow]

or trash but only when im doing it

[limpid sphinx]

okay so i have nothing to work with your feedback np

[limpid sphinx]

i did a alt with black fire colors you can see on the thread but idk if the black fire looks clear

[winter sparrow]

it did look pretty good with the Moltres fire as well tbf

yeah inverted shinies are fun

[limpid sphinx]

differences between moltres and galar moltres: fire color and a fin on the head

mine dont have a fin on the head

[wind matrix]

but you did it with the body black too
this one looks better imo

[limpid sphinx]

yea but i mean in general yk

the black fire dont look like real fire idk how i can explain what i think xd

[limpid sphinx]

ok so should i post that as a main and the other as a alt?

[wind matrix]

it's ok, the shiny colours are lame for grabbing extra colours on this one

[limpid sphinx]

maybe can be less galarian rn

[sick herald]

i think it was lower bc of sfx

from what i've learned sfx are a no go

wait nvm its moltres thats different

i just remembered

[wind matrix]

moltres has sfx naturally lol

it wasn't any added

[sick herald]

yeah i just remembered the difference

[limpid sphinx]

btw whoever giving a 2 for the dugtrio one who is a regional variant too)

but im gonna just leave rn

[winter sparrow]

yeah im taking the fire off of moltres, no sfx allowed. you'll only draw raw chicken from now on

[sick herald]

lmao

[wind matrix]

Go send Tee hatemail

[sick herald]

just tres now

[limpid sphinx]

nah i like him

maybe not that much rn))))

damn i shouldnt say nothing to tee this time hes gonna judge my birthday entry too

im so dumb

[sick herald]

u fool

[limpid sphinx]

i mean yeah looks so much like galarian fr tee, i agree

im gonna rework on all that

🤝

[sick herald]

[limpid sphinx]

great feedbacks

[wind matrix]

Tee giving the best feedbacks

[limpid sphinx]

you miss so much that i bet you cant find rn

[sick herald]

so in the contests, if two people do the same sprite (same pkmn and stuff) and they decide one is technically better, does the other one lose points?

[wind matrix]

[winter sparrow]

i doubt it

[limpid sphinx]

since one is technically better the other is gonna have a less score automatically ig

[sick herald]

no but i mean like, does the other one lose extra points?

[limpid sphinx]

nah

i dont think so

[sick herald]

okay

[limpid sphinx]

its a individual thing

[indigo ice]

theyre judged on themselves alone id say not on how they compare to others

[wind matrix]

I mean. if the points don't make sense, like if I end up giving them the same score, I'll reassess how I'm scoring all of them

[limpid sphinx]

(me saying that as im staff member)

[winter sparrow]

id assume that'd only be like... if the better one got judged first and the judges still had that one in the brainspace when judging the second
but i think they'd just be judged as they are individually

[wind matrix]

but also i don't know how everyone else judges

[limpid sphinx]

me too

[wind matrix]

so do I

[limpid sphinx]

like in 3 years when i be a bit good with sprite

[wind matrix]

it's tru!

[limpid sphinx]

we know your secrets

👁️

[rough talon]

My face when i've spent all day doing concepts for sprites for the contest and not the actual sprites themselves

Fuck...

[wind matrix]

take a break

[sick herald]

this just made me think mine lost more points bc it wasnt as good as the other one

[rough talon]

i did earlier but since i just need to wait that is what im doing now, yes

[sick herald]

no shot

[wind matrix]

I can see how you would think that

[rough talon]

I'd direct traffic to my designs for voting on which one i should use/etc but. i'm afraid to do so. What if the three specific people in the contest all look at this channel at once and click on it

[wind matrix]

well, Blaq's not online on the weekends, and Katten's asleep by now probably

[rough talon]

Quick click this link #spriting-discussion message

THATS AN IMAGE

[sick herald]

i made mine before there's was made so ig its a shame i couldn't take away from there's

[rough talon]

Thanks for the totallyontimediversion

[wind matrix]

Blaq loves sfx

[rough talon]

i think i might actually be qualified for a bird seminar

just need to train myself on drwaing them again before doing so

drawing*

Which is nice as GamR said it's probably gonna be a while after considering there was JUST a wing one lmao

[indigo ice]

im qualified for a real life bird seminar

but only australian birds

[rough talon]

lmao

teaching people the dangers of cockatoos and kookaburras

[indigo ice]

no no no

Noisy Miners

[rough talon]

ONLY NOISY MINERS?

[indigo ice]

even Aussies say omg magpies!!! so scary!! Noisy miners are batshit insane even out of breeding season

yeah :)

[wind matrix]

why does austrila have all the crazy animals?

[winter sparrow]

blaq also loves dithering as seen here on their favorite pokemon

[wind matrix]

is cute

[winter sparrow]

oh a cute bird

[sick herald]

we're the draft stage for life

[indigo ice]

america has BEARS dude at least we don't have animals thst can MAUL us

im not saying ur American btw

[wind matrix]

you have tasmanian devils

[indigo ice]

if you aren

[sick herald]

no we just have the world's most venomous snake

[wind matrix]

i am lol

[rough talon]

hehe noisy miners like deep rock galactic

[sick herald]

i mean they can snap bones with their jaw

[autumn epoch]

America also has the second fastest land animal 😄

[wind matrix]

also, bears leave people alone for the most part

[indigo ice]

they aren't mainland + more often i think they would just run off rather than try and kill a man

[wind matrix]

unless you have food

[indigo ice]

thats also the case for a lot of australian animals

[sick herald]

i mean same with bears

[indigo ice]

also im not mad at all I feel like it could come off as that

[sick herald]

bears dont go out of their way to mess with people

[rough talon]

Guys why aren't you bringing up Bison which are objectively the most dangerous American animal

[indigo ice]

I jusy love talking about animals

[wind matrix]

unless you mess with their cubs

[indigo ice]

MOOSE

MEESE

[sick herald]

i love bisons, when i was little my dad took me to america and i saw them

[indigo ice]

case closed we do not have moose ij Australia

[rough talon]

oooh meese too. Of course i dont know the real plural of moose so i'll just said meese

[sick herald]

i adore bison

[rough talon]

i think bison and meese are the scariest american animals

I hate that

That's not right

[wind matrix]

I've never seen a moose irl. we don't have em where i live

[sick herald]

no we just have kangaroos that go out of their way to kick ur windshield in

[sick herald]

the plural is moose

[rough talon]

Oh actually, i saw bison really up close in the wild before. they were like, inches away from our car lmao when we went to yellowstone

[indigo ice]

just don't live in the middle of nowhere 🤥

[sick herald]

i pat one on the side when we went out to a field

[indigo ice]

(JOKE)

[sick herald]

i super love bisons

[rough talon]

HUUHAUGHUHSDJAJ

HOw are you ALIVE?

[wind matrix]

mooses

[autumn epoch]

Bison WILL mess you up

[wind matrix]

nice!

[sick herald]

i was like 5, it was 5x my height

[rough talon]

I mean that's awesome but

[wind matrix]

bisons are chill unless you piss them off, or if it's mating season

[rough talon]

okay yeah thats fair

Dude i have such a fear of even TOUCHING wild bison

seeing all of them in a herd has given me nightmares of what would happen if you even pissed One off

[autumn epoch]

Well there's so many tourists who come up in their cars and make a mistake, and the bison just BODIES their car

[rough talon]

lmaooo

we were parked so

the bison didnt give any shits

we let them pass

[sick herald]

i have a yellowstone t shirt with a bison

my favourite shirt

[autumn epoch]

Nah, fear has guided me to research lmao

[sick herald]

i would give anything to see a bison again

[rough talon]

i kinda want to go to yellowstone again to see the wolves but....who knows

[autumn epoch]

Although I would love to see one

[wind matrix]

tourists are also dumb and don't know how to interact with wild animals

[sick herald]

i was 5 okay

[rough talon]

i mean okay

you're fine

But your parents arent for letting that happen

DGHNKADJIDAK

[wind matrix]

you're fine. you didn't piss it off

[rough talon]

of course im in jest

its more just like. if nobody got hurt its fine

[autumn epoch]

The sanitized (at least in this area) experience of living in urban or suburban areas can really lead to being uninformed about this kind of stuff.

[rough talon]

Not for the future but

[sick herald]

i mean it was on a friends land, the bison weren't domesticated or anything but it was behind a fence

[rough talon]

also augh god. europeans acting like americans are weird for having large wild animals just chilling is something that makes me so enraged lmao 😭

[autumn epoch]

Wait is that a thing?

[rough talon]

YES ITS INSANE??

[wind matrix]

you say that like there's such thing as a domestic bison

[rough talon]

im sure its a small amount of europeans but like. Good lord

[wind matrix]

yeah, but they're not domesticated

[autumn epoch]

I mean there aren't that many large land animals in Europe to my knowledge - overhunting and the like many thousands of years ago lol

[plush vale]

most in NA were wiped out too

[sick herald]

i dont think they were, i remember ny dads friend saying smth like "yeah they just pass through sometimes"

[plush vale]

and SA I think

[autumn epoch]

Also very true

[rough talon]

its true, but we are trying very hard to preserve our remaining ones, thank god

i miss the north american parrots :(

[autumn epoch]

Africa has most of the remaining megafauna

[wind matrix]

we used to have a ton more large animals

[plush vale]

ah yes the best large land mammal, the strongest megafauna

[autumn epoch]

You can find a flock of wild parrots in Pasadena CA, they're annoying little shits lol

[broken robin]

spriter general.... 2!

[autumn epoch]

Although they're invasive ofc

[rough talon]

well, the native ones. i know about the invasive ones

[rough talon]

UHAUGHSAUDHSDUHUHED . Yes!

Look at how pretty they looked :(

I love them so much....in my thoughts all the god damned time

[autumn epoch]

I'm honestly more sad about the gigantic lemur that used to exist in Madagascar https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Archaeoindris_fontoynonti.jpg

RIP to a real one

[wind matrix]

don't you know contest general becomes spriter general between contests?

[broken robin]

We're not even between contests

[plush vale]

we're between mini contests

[wind matrix]

California had another species of bear that was hunted to extinction 😔

[plush vale]

pooh bear

[autumn epoch]

Honestly the bear on California's flag pisses me off. Like, you killed all yours off, you don't deserve it on your flag!

[wind matrix]

bison almost went extinct. People would shoot them from the trains. Luckily they recovered

[wind matrix]

we still have two bear species, but still

[plush vale]

brain read not a charmanders name as whismilking and I was going wth

[autumn epoch]

Yeah I don't think either of them are the one on the flag, though I may be wrong

[wind matrix]

is your brain drunk?

[plush vale]

nah just periphery when I was going past the emote

[wind matrix]

I want to say the extinct bear is on the flag. but i could be wrong

[plush vale]

isn't that brown bear

[autumn epoch]

I just looked it up, the Californian Grizzly was what went on the flag

So yeah

[wind matrix]

is either that or the brown bear

ah

yeeee

[plush vale]

nah you're right yeah

[autumn epoch]

Grizzlies are just different populations/subspecies of brown bears

So ye

See now this conversation has me on a megafauna rabbit hole

Go for it, why not?

[odd garnet]

👀

I have not moved from my spot since last time
It's getting a bit crowded though xD
Any tips?

Inb4: "Just make better Roserades"

HAHAHA

[acoustic saddle]

just make better flowers

[odd garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

[wind matrix]

poor Xeno. He will be missed 😔

[wind matrix]

you've definitely made better sprites then this one. But the size was a ton better!

[odd garnet]

I'll do my best NOT TO BE 3RD PLACE 3 IN A ROW

LOL

[raven pulsar]

time to rip the band aid off and see where my entry placed

[wind matrix]

I think I gave you a 4. But I can't quite remember why it wasn't up to the 5 standard for me

[odd garnet]

Effects?

[wind matrix]

I don't think that was it?

Might remember if you show the picture

[wind matrix]

ok, yeah. it was the special effects. Because the petals were missing outlines

also this bit here

[odd garnet]

DANG

[steady pasture]

Rip Xeno

Becuz of those pixels u lost 1st place

[rough talon]

wait whats the issue here

i think the shading on the dress for like. the ONE light pixel is bad but

Wdym

is that about all that was wrong?

asides from what you said about the sfc

sfx*

because if so that'd be deeply unfortunate

[wind matrix]

it's poking out at a direct point. dresses don't do that

[graceful plank]

I think Thorns is saying that the hem of the dress there lines up too much with the bit above it

[rough talon]

i see

[wind matrix]

(Also, I am more strict on my friends )

[rough talon]

lmao fair

[odd garnet]

As the spriter who sprites Roses
I have to please the Thorns
...
Rose
Thorns
AHAHAHAHAHA
X_X

[silk plank]

❗

[grim ether]

yeah im ok w this

[crude cedar]

I thought that one was from xeno lol

[uncut shadow]

The person who's named "Whoever" has veen so harsh on so many sprites its insane

[grim ether]

im the one who made the one on the bottom lol

[grim ether]

lmao for real . idc though

im confused about the google sheet

how do i sort it by which ones got the highest results?

[stiff valley]

change tab

there's a page just for that

[grim ether]

oh im dumb

thanks

OH SHIT TOP 10 ??

[crude cedar]

Yeah but he is the roserade spriter so I thought it was form them! (It's a compliment)

[grim ether]

lmao thanks their roserades are fucking amazing

[wind matrix]

probs Tee

[wind matrix]

Xeno did the red one

[amber sluice]

Would it be alright if I fished for some inspiration or feedback here before posting a thread? I've been working on sketches and trying to pick a pose and I think I've got a good one, but doubt keeps eating at me

[amber sluice]

I know I right I had pretty solid 3s and even a 4 across the board but a painful zero from Whoever

[wind matrix]

#spriting-discussion

[wind matrix]

they gave out 0s like candy, so don't worry too much about it

[amber sluice]

Thankye, will bother folks there

[quartz locust]

That's okay, I'll just hunt down the person responsible and smite them. I don't have that power, but still, I'll try. 😛

[fringe mica]

hi guys

so everyone gets to potentially add new pokemon eh?

[cyan gull]

Where do I post my submissions for events?

Is it still the gallery? Not a big boy spriter yet

[pulsar kite]

there's a link to a drive in the post in event announcements

[cyan gull]

[indigo ice]

i think every member that joins the server should be able to add a new pokemon to the game

[urban knot]

Members

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[wind matrix]

[indigo ice]

yeah :)

[random crypt]

full dex lesgo

[wind matrix]

😂

[indigo ice]

when we get the full dex people can just start submitting creatures

[random crypt]

full dex + fakemons

enough to make a pc blow up lmao

[wind matrix]

full dex + real animals

[indigo ice]

fusing my charizard with Moose

[arctic garnet]

I'm very pleased with my Espeon's performance, but am still curious what you'd recommend for improvement.

[tepid reef]

For mine I think it's mostly about the pose, but if there's anything else that looks off I'd gladly hear it

Ngl if I'd actually reference a dancing pose it'd be a banger

[arctic garnet]

Yeah, the concept is solid but the pose is plain, even for just Lucario. Lucario is a good mon to use for 'dance-fighting' styles in my opinion.

[molten crater]

I feel like a plague doctor mask is more associated to honchkrow, while ball masks don't usually have the nose attached to them

[arctic garnet]

A lot of masquerade masks would feature beaks actually. But you are correct they would not be that long.

Just long enough to cover the nose

[tepid reef]

Yeah next time will try to prepare the pose before the design

And the mask is that way just because of the cool factor, couldn't make anything shorter look as good

[random crypt]

it looks really cool but also took me a hot minute to figure out that's lucario

[cyan gull]

Tentaqwil drop

[crude cedar]

Hello guys, I'd like to share my judging method for these events with you.
Let's consider a rating scale of 0 to 5 for these sprites. Personally, I assigned a rating of 0 to sprites that I intended to remove from the gallery due to significant issues. A rating of 1 signifies a "Meh" quality, indicating sprites with problems related to outlines, shading, or similar issues. A rating of 2 represents a neutral stance. Personally, I assigned a rating of 2 to sprites that were acceptable, typically custom sprites that adhered to the rules without standing out. Rating 3 denotes good sprites, above average in quality, while rating 4 is reserved for absolutely top-tier sprites. I personally used a rating of 5 to express my personal preference for those I would have chosen as winners.
In my view, sprites rated above 1 are generally of good quality. However, reaching a level 3 or 4 requires an extra something and a substantial amount of practice and receiving a 5 from me is purely a matter of personal taste.
This is what I hope to have been consistent!

[storm scaffold]

Absolutely

[cyan gull]

[limpid sphinx]

lol

[limpid sphinx]

i really liked this one

[limpid sphinx]

makes sense coram, thanks for share btw! 🙂

[silver merlin]

guys let me do this too

if i hate you as a person i will give you a 0 no matter how good the sprite is

[near horizon]

Submitted my entry to the drive !

[plucky arch]

we found Whoever

[sick herald]

manhunt over?

lets go

[devout hare]

Regardless of whoever is, it's pretty validating to get one of their only 5s.

[cyan gull]

So post funnies in your presence?

[dense jackal]

I was looking for them

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/737765817474744350/1150494678693720184/image.png

[quartz locust]

Not that I judged this specific contest, but I have a very similar system; the only difference is that I add sprites that are too detailed (though still very impressive) to the 0 group, because I think they lack stylistic consistency with the likes of base sprites. 😅

[heady moat]

Quick question - I know you dislike dithering, but how do you feel about it when the official sprite uses it? (I mainly ask because Latios uses dithering on the wings)

[random crypt]

nidoqueen uses it on the chest plate booba things

[heady moat]

There's several that use dithering, like Gardevoir, Persian, Jumpluff etc, and they're usually pretty subtle - But I also know there are people on this server who feel we should NEVER use dithering, even if the official sprites do

I'm just curious where Blaquaza lands on that spectrum

[lusty crystal]

I think dithering is good in small doses

[steel vortex]

Small dithering helps with fur and cotton texture, as well as some fabrics! I think it's just when people go overboard it looks a mess ahaha, although idk why people are so scared of it xD

[lusty crystal]

I disabled weather cycle have fun with that

[heady moat]

I agree! I've definitely had people give me feedback that was just "Remove all dithering" even when I had just copied over that part from the official sprite

[steel vortex]

Oop

[heady moat]

Since Blaq famously dislikes dithering, and gets a more highly-weighted judge score, I just want to make sure I'm not shooting myself in the foot by keeping Latios' wing dithering

[steel vortex]

Nope, that's fine
Dithering should be used with textures, gradients, and sparceness in mind, a little goes a long way

Latios' wing is implied to be fluffy/feathery

[crude cedar]

Cool! And it's consistent with your philosophy

I agree with you but I am less strict I have to admit

[runic ruin]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1147951829867569242
I noticed that some of the judges earlier were giving their feedback on why they scored various sprites how they did so I was wondering what y'all liked and disliked about my own entry and how it be improved! 👀

[thick jolt]

oh i love that sprite

[plucky arch]

very large, and the tuft on the head confuses me between Sensu and Baile, colors are also weirdly vibrant on the horns and talons, as well the tail shape is off

the left wing is also a lot smaller then the right one, from it's pov

[shut mural]

looks good but i think you could have benefited from that wings seminar
feathers look like they are coming straight down, their perspective looks off, and parts of the wing look oddly bent

overall though great idea and execution

[runic ruin]

Hmmm, alright, that’s fair lol! Wings are in fact very frustrating XD

[runic ruin]

I will say tho that the “tuft” on the head is meant to be a messy bun/ponytail since Baile has a small bun and the line in the center of Volcarona’s head reminded me of a uh…. Widow’s peak? The hairline, I mean, from when it’s pulled back tightly.

[plush vale]

guess she shouldn't of decided to wing it 😛

[plucky arch]

issue with that is the curls and the bun are the same colour on the base, but this theyre different which adds confusion

[runic ruin]

Very true, I might try changing the color of it then and seeing if that would look weird or not

[dense jackal]

To me the scale/pose makes me think it's a ho-oh, or a zapdos maybe - but that's the only major problem to me

[runic ruin]

Huh, yeah I can see that with the pose… Technically the pose was actually based off of a screenshot from the anime but I had to workshop it a lot in order to make it work lol

[dense jackal]

Oh, can I see? 🙂

[runic ruin]

Yeah , sure! It was based off of this:

[dense jackal]

Wow, what an intense looking moment!

[runic ruin]

Lol yeah it’s right in the middle of changing forms

[wind matrix]

which one was yours? Is been a bit 😅

[dreamy tartan]

@civic mauve congrats on the second place almost won this one!

Saly???? The hell does that mean?

Hang on same number of points??? Is it a draw?

[dense jackal]

[dreamy tartan]

Oh? I thought that said Easy lol

Saly huh

Well is it a draw or does Pix get second place?

[dense jackal]

I think they got the same points, but then they got a tie breaker to vote and it went to Meru

[wind matrix]

It's supposed to say SLAY

[balmy mango]

it defo says lays not slay

lol

[dense jackal]

cures what ayls you

[balmy mango]

haha

[limpid sphinx]

no

[thick harness]

yals need to relax, it's not that hard to read

[limpid sphinx]

its a refference

[midnight pumice]

I just made a mon that can fit 2 categories for the birthday contest, what do i do

[winter sparrow]

you pick one

[rough talon]

LOL

[balmy mango]

O yeah lays told u

Lol

[wind matrix]

oh! that one. The pose isn't quite right. It seems to be looking down and sad. The outline shading can use some work as well. It needs more black outlines

[arctic garnet]

Ah, I think I see some areas that could have benefited from black outline, yeah. As for pose, I did want it to look solemn. I kept envisioning a sad slow dance when making it. It just felt right, but I can see how some may find it more off-putting than beautiful.

[wind matrix]

ah, didn't realize that was your intention. I was thinking with the idea of it being used in the game where it's fighting another pokemon

[grim ether]

lmao same

[plucky arch]

choose one and include it in the file name

[midnight pumice]

Did just that

[arctic garnet]

I did actually see it as part of it's fighting style. It would move in battle like such a dance as I described. I'm not upset you didn't vibe with that Thorns, that's just a difference in artistic view. I do appreciate the point about the outlines though, I'm always a bit iffy about them and worried about using too much black.

[amber sluice]

Lots of people forget about the in game context and it drives me just a little bit bonkers when I see (really good!) Sprites that are gonna look wonky in game because of where the shadows and framing ends up.

Part of that irritation is probably a result of working in prepress and print production - yes your composition is great on screen but when the book is printed you're going to lose half the important details to the inseam

[plush vale]

always annoyign as a read when the picture doesn't line casue of that

[graceful plank]

I am like constantly going back to the pin in #1051343819314053160 to get the background so I can align it in my canvas. I really should save that image at this point

but some bases like alolan farfetch'd and necrozma are too big anyway

[arctic garnet]

You should. I have that stage saved and start with it, saving the file separately under the fusion name so my starting point is always that clean slate.

[wind matrix]

ye, I feel like the pose is def different artistic views

[pearl latch]

Is thag the purple stage thing? I never know how to position it. Does it go right at the bottom?

[rapid knot]

If you open your sprite as a layer on the purple stage image, you will be able to position it correctly. Ideally, you move the mon around and not the stage

[wind matrix]

basicaclly put the mon in the center of the stage

[pearl latch]

Ooh, I always put the stage on my mon's document thing
Lmao it makes sense to do it the other way around
Thanks guys

Might have to take a look at the sprites I've already posted then

[hazy chasm]

@naive summit is it only treverent head fusions that will be entered to the drawings?

[amber sluice]

Yeah there's a deceptively large amount of the working space below even the largest shadow size, which is really useful if you're doing some intense perspective stuff but makes it real easy to put the feet in the wrong spot

[naive summit]

Currently yes; If it reaches 70% completion within reasonable time, I'll throw a poll up for people to decide to include either Phantump heads or Trevenant bodies as well though!

[plucky arch]

gettin about 12 entries per day for the birthday contest lets go

[winter sparrow]

so quick q
i made a custom base of the pose i used for the contest and uploaded it before starting work on my entry
should i put a disclaimer down asking people not to also use it for their entries? saw something similar with another one
(afaik no one's using my base yet)

[wind matrix]

you could if you don't want people using it for the contest

can edit it to remove the disclamer after the contest is over if you want

[winter sparrow]

ill just put it down and hope no one was working with it before i did that

[grim ether]

i dont see why not i did that lol

like idk, someone left a sad reaction but i dont care, i think its reasonable to not want people to use something for a contest youre also going to be participating in

[quartz locust]

When it's there and conveys texture, it's all good. 😄

I dislike some instances of it, though. I hate it on smooth, round Pokémon, especially. 😮

[wind matrix]

[cyan gull]

Blaquaza in shambles

[quartz locust]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-tired-no-sleep-gif-15403093

[wind matrix]

Gonna make the most dithered, overshaded, sfx filled sprite for the contest for Blaq

[sick herald]

use body colours too

[wind matrix]

no, I'm going to make up my own colour pallate

[cyan gull]

[quartz locust]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-pissed-off-anger-angry-fist-gif-17698178

[molten mist]

Bruh I'm dumb, I submitted my entry through my school email LMAOO, hang on I'm getting on my personal account

[limpid sphinx]

no

use gen 3 palette >:)

[livid tulip]

Speaking of that, I have a question for you about one of the Pokémon from your contest but I'm not sure I should ask before the contest ends

Or I can ask you via DM and save the secret

[rough talon]

btw if you cant open it with your personal account like, from discord, do you know how to do that on google drive?

if not i can tell you :)

its very stupid

[grand tusk]

Oh yeah, you're a latios fan? List all the differences between latias and latios without mentioning the color

[heady moat]

Latias smooched Ash

(Allegedly)

[grand tusk]

thats true, thats on me for not stating VISUAL differences

[lunar comet]

the 5th letter in their name

if you go by the movie one is slightly smaller

[dense jackal]

Latias is happy, and latios looks like a moody bish

[lunar comet]

latias' cry is a bit higher pitched

[heady moat]

As somebody doing Latias/Persian and Latios/Persian right now - Latios has serious eyes, Latias has friendly eyes

[grand tusk]

smh smh you people are thinking to simple, there's so much more to them

[heady moat]

Also Latias has ribbons for a tail and Latios has an explosion for a tail

[grand tusk]

tail is the big one, yes

good job, lati enjoyer

[lunar comet]

when white light hits latios, the red wavelength is absorbed, resulting in blue light bouncing off of them, latias it's vice versa

[rough talon]

latios is a guy latias is a girl

[heady moat]

I would not have known that offhand, it is only because I am literally spriting them this exact moment

[rough talon]

Ah you are spriting them

[grand tusk]

their hair tufts (or whatever they're called) are also different

[rough talon]

wait nvm

LMAO looks at the original message

[grand tusk]

latios go straight up and latias has curved ones

[lunar comet]

their dex number is different

[heady moat]

Their backs are also different, with Latias having curved bumps capping off the red, and Latios having spikes capping off the blue

[lunar comet]

nope can't mention the color

[heady moat]

I'm talking about the shape

[grand tusk]

their sides are different too, even though its impossible to see em half the time

[lunar comet]

not even if you're using it as a reference to the location of other parts

[lunar comet]

i know you're talking about the shape, but you mentioned the color as a reference point to the location of the shape you're referring to, thus mentioning the color

[heady moat]

Ah, fair, let me rephrase:

Latias bumpy back, Latios spiky back

[grand tusk]

I mean I wasn't pedantic enough to care but yes rephrase

[lunar comet]

i'm pedantic enough