event-general

[odd garnet]

Is that how it works? Dangit mine has 5 common cycles and 1 rare

[silver merlin]

it might be 5 i cant remember

actually i think it depends, some dont even have a rare

but it dont matter as that wont be the rules

[teal grove]

Some have 3 common and 1 rare

[teal grove]

Volcarona is an example of this

[chilly void]

Do I get it? I want the title :"3

[teal grove]

You should

I had it for wayy too long imo

[silver merlin]

just gonna have to change the icon

[chilly void]

At least the "contest champion" tag

I want to wear it with pride

[silver merlin]

uhh

i gave it to you

[chilly void]

Wait

[teal grove]

Now there’s two

[chilly void]

Katten is

Oooooh

I thought you were a regular user, apologies haha

[silver merlin]

hm yes me and my purple name the very regular user 🚎

dw lol

[chilly void]

Why both you have ralsei as pic?

[teal grove]

Uhm

seperate reasons

[chilly void]

I think I have seen a 3rd one too

[silver merlin]

ralsei best boi

thats the reason

[chilly void]

I agree

I made a ralsei figurine

2 actually

[teal grove]

Will the new server icon be shared between the klinklang and the mawile?

[chilly void]

But gave one to my bestie

[silver merlin]

ye

[silver merlin]

oh sick

im planning to make a ralsei out of clay actually lol

[teal grove]

Claysei

[silver merlin]

true

[teal grove]

Aww

The scrunkly

[chilly void]

I also got an Asriel and Kris

I made a joke photo sesion with them

Wont share here thpugh because is out of topic and dont want to flood it

[vagrant thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

Naspyta and I being the newest contest champion 🤝

[chilly void]

YES

[ionic scroll]

Hold on

Im a bit dumby and out of touch with time

Whens the submission deadline

What exact day number

[lone loom]

Ok first contest here, just wondering if someone can tell me how to actually submit the sprites? mine aren't exactly ready yet but do you just upload them to the gallery when your done or is there another place to submit them at?

[misty acorn]

I'd reccomend reading #event-announcements

[lone loom]

oops I missed the pinned comments lol. I forget they're there most of the time. Thanks

[shadow agate]

Dammit, those legendary dogs gave me ideas... and now I have to redo my first entry. lmao.

[hybrid shell]

Geez, at this speed we’ll have aegislash in the top ten lmao

[graceful granite]

aegislash / delibird might be the most cursed thing i've seen

[plucky arch]

and not Lickitung/Aegislash??

[graceful granite]

oh god did i miss that one

DEAR GOD

[crude cedar]

If the winner of this contest chooses Aegislash to be an option in the next contest vote then we can choose aegislash again and repeat so that every contest is aegislash forever

then aegislash completed in no time

[graceful granite]

genius.

[brave pilot]

should i do that one

honestly i need an idea for my third entry

[graceful granite]

aegislash / mime jr, arm the child

[brave pilot]

i will do that

actually idk

[crude cedar]

I think theyre talking about the one someone already did

[gloomy notch]

anyone have a dope swampert combo

[graceful granite]

i feel like swampert/zoroark would look cool

[plucky arch]

mawile/swampert is dope

[pearl parcel]

When does the contest end?

[teal grove]

I think we can submit entries until the 4th

[shadow agate]

I may not win, but I will make this freaking adorable and no one can stop me.

[crude cedar]

i know i wont win

not when KATTEN entered the fucking contest

here's a little tip for ya : if katten entered a contest , loose all hope you have of winning

[graceful granite]

if it's a skill issue, it's a skill issue we all have

[crude cedar]

no its katten's skill issue, they're too skilled

[hybrid shell]

But I fight on, even if it’s meaningless

[teal grove]

Hello hi this is wrong

Now if it was mammuth, then you wouldve been right

[crude cedar]

do you want me to say it again ?

[misty acorn]

Mammuth really dominated every contest he was in

And he came pretty close to getting 1st, 2nd and 3rd place all at once at one point I think

[crude cedar]

💀

thats the biggest fucking skill issue iver ever seen

[teal grove]

I mean

Naspyta won half the podium with the latest contest

[thick atlas]

its not nice to talk about others this way

[crude cedar]

morality is a human construct

[misty acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/reject-modernity-return-to-monke-monke-gif-19167526

replace "modernety" with "society"

[crude cedar]

time for me to nerd out ab how humans didnt evolve from monkeys

[misty acorn]

go for it

[crude cedar]

no this isn't the appropriate place :chanceytrolling:

[teal grove]

Well we didn’t

[random abyss]

How to get duskull

[teal grove]

We had a common ancestor

[teal grove]

Why are you asking here

[random abyss]

Wait why am I here?

[crude cedar]

and thats literally it

[random abyss]

Lol

[crude cedar]

ask yourself that

and that wasn't even a polite request for an answer 😭

like this aint google 💀

[misty acorn]

I wanna know if I'm a monke or not now

[silver merlin]

mantine

i think

nah people can def win over my sprites

scrapi has proven that time and time again lol

[misty acorn]

Not sure, might have also been one of the older ones where we didn't officially announce the top 3 yet

[silver merlin]

forgor to reply to the message

[silver merlin]

i think for the old ones he usually only made one or two?

[misty acorn]

hmm, true

also

[silver merlin]

oh i remember that

think that was svarecrows first w

[misty acorn]

I've seen discussions about that the ray/mimi and the gyra/mimi should be the reverse fusions instead and I can definetly see it

[silver merlin]

lol i dont agree really

but id love to do a mimikyu classic comp again

[misty acorn]

I've not tried my hands at a mimikyu before but it sounds really fun

[silver merlin]

very fun, u can do a lot of stuff

[misty acorn]

Are people who win a contest allowed to nominate a mon that already had a comp?

[silver merlin]

yeah just not like directly after another

lets say like half a year

if its older than half a year then sure

[misty acorn]

I should really win a contest to get like Hoppip or something in there

[silver merlin]

hoppip is cute

[plucky arch]

Anorith contest

[silver merlin]

now that wont ever happen

[plucky arch]

Voltorb contest, just make everything round

[teal grove]

Hey guys we talking about possible classic contest?

May i suggest-

https://tenor.com/view/wasted-putther-genghiskh4nyt-killed-assassinated-gif-17968698

[misty acorn]

A Wobbuffet contest would be amazing

[teal grove]

What

[misty acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/wasted-putther-genghiskh4nyt-killed-assassinated-gif-17968698

[crude cedar]

klinklanklontest? yes

[plush vale]

when you can't fuse with something with bulletproof cause none are in the game

[quartz locust]

Mimikyu's basically a mess when it comes to head/body ordering. 😂

[silver merlin]

my take: just do whatever lol

[quartz locust]

Pretty much. 😂

I normally try and keep the bodies Mimikyu-shaped, but there's not necessarily a logic for that because then the logic is that it's imitating them but with the size of Pikachu's body. It's weird. 😢

[teal grove]

it's just mimikyu mimicking other pokemon. The difference between head and body fusions is that mimikyu heads use mimikyu colors

[tiny trellis]

the real mimikyu body is the funny fella under the cloth anyways

I think, I'm not read up on the epic pokemans lore

[quartz locust]

What does that have to do with anything? 😮

[civic laurel]

idk

its cute

[quartz locust]

That's not what this channel is for. Please use #fusions to post images of random fusions that you like. 🙂

[errant hazel]

Late, but agreed

[tall moss]

they did get swapped, for the sake of consistency all mimkyu bodies are now this shape, all mimikyus that arent this shape are mimi heads

[silver merlin]

ehhh

fair enough ig lol

[tiny trellis]

then some of them have the wrong colors

well, "wrong"

[misty acorn]

Good to know

I would probably add a note to maybe the sprite resources or somewhere else where this is clarified and where it is pointed out that just checking the #sprite-gallery to see if some mimikyu is made or not probably wont be accurate then

[misty acorn]

It makes sense for Mimikyu tho

Weird case for sure

[teal grove]

Im gonna abuse the fuck out of that if i ever do a mimikyu fusion

[misty acorn]

But also fun

[silver merlin]

its not "wrong" to use the body colour anyways

[crude cedar]

Why does Kiwi's drawing look like spewpa?

[plucky arch]

smhsmh its a Jigglypuff from above

[misty acorn]

🦀 Spewpa appreciation moment 🦀

[silver merlin]

spewpa is a funny pokemon in smash

stuns the opponent very funny

[crude cedar]

nah I literally had to google pokemon vivillon pre evolution to find the name of it

[misty acorn]

And I had to look at the kiwi drawing and think very hard for a moment about who that might look like

But still, Vivillon best bug type and Spewpa funky too

[crude cedar]

Id like to submit my mimikyu

[tiny trellis]

next contest spewpa contest

[crude cedar]

Agreed

[misty acorn]

🤝

fuck what the managers say, we'll just all submit spewpa anyway

[silver merlin]

this manager boutta ban yall from contests

[plucky arch]

if we go down we go down together

[cedar quest]

Guess I gotta redo Qwilfish|Mimi

[plucky arch]

mimikyu is so, tricky

hence why i have yet to touch it

[crude cedar]

Boycott and submit only spewpa

[graceful granite]

but have you considered. snom.

[cedar quest]

Also man, the cloth shape for the body is boring as hell

(Or I guess moreso the way you're defining it, there should be room for some variation)

[quartz locust]

I asked my sister to get me a Snom plush for Christmas. I love it. ❤️

[lofty ivy]

snom plush 🥺

[gusty epoch]

I have an idea for a way to get a unique fusion, the player starts a randomized game and does everything normally up to the starter choice, then they can choose which pokemon isn't in the fusion and then, the rival fuses the other two starters and makes a unique and personalized fusion to have the player make a sprite out of the fuzion

[graceful granite]

sounds cool, but this is not the channel

[misty acorn]

I mean you could technically make a contest out of that idea

[cedar quest]

Isn't that just Aegide's calc with extra steps? Or am I misunderstanding something?

[silver merlin]

this

it just becomes boring real quick lol

also means these mimikyu bodies are apparently heads which is really shitty cuz i made them for the sole reason of being mimikyu bodies

[teal grove]

We could also just

Make it so mimikyu heads have the mimikyu colors

Would solve the problem too

[silver merlin]

id like that more lol

[misty acorn]

Yeah counting the ones katten just made as bodies and then just coloring them yellow and calling them heads would be fine by me lol

[teal grove]

Also, mimikyu bodies would be made out of cloth-like things alone (with maybe a few extra stuff), while heads can use a lot of other material (like the wheel for mimikyu/magcargo)

[hybrid shell]

how much time left?

[teal grove]

We still have until the 4th if im not mistaken

[quartz locust]

Honestly, for the Mimikyu messes, this is quite a good solution. 🙂

[hybrid shell]

Ok but , my timezone ain’t the same as the comp managers, idk when that’ll be for them

[teal grove]

Idk either

Better start working ig

[tiny trellis]

I think the submissions should just close now since I got all of mine done

[ionic scroll]

???

[teal grove]

Oh hey swadtoon, ive been meaning to ask you something

Is that pfp of yours a penny/sylveon fusion?

[ionic scroll]

Ye

It popped up during a discussion and i liked it so much that i chose it as my pfp and new name

PennyLoony

Loony comes from Swadloon

[teal grove]

Looks like it could be Penny's fursona

[ionic scroll]

Probably lol

[teal grove]

Where's the full image?

[ionic scroll]

I am bewildered with this message though~ they cant close just because one person is finished, can they?

[teal grove]

It's a joke

[ionic scroll]

Wheres the /j then lol

Im autism creature

[teal grove]

Up my ass

[ionic scroll]

puts rubber glove on

[tiny trellis]

I trust that people can detect obvious sarcasm in text

[ionic scroll]

no

I cannot

[ionic scroll]

This is a /j btw because im not doing that here

[ionic scroll]

Question

How should i name my fusion

If for example i had a uhhh

Vaporeon Lopunny fusion

The body is blue but its shaped like a Lopunny

Is it named Vaporunny or Loporeon

Im not familiar with this “head + body” naming stuff

Just want to know before i have to rename all my files

[tiny trellis]

in the game, head part is first, then body

[ionic scroll]

So my example would be a Vaporunny?

[tiny trellis]

so it'd be vaporunny I guess

[ionic scroll]

Ahh oki

Tysm

Me changing the name of the fusion back to “Aegislash”

Im stupid

[quartz locust]

Yeah, except we normally use the Pokédex numbers (IF Pokédex numbers, not National Pokédex numbers, they're different and much more weird) for file names. So if it was Togekiss / Mew, it'd be 269.151, for example. 🙂

[ionic scroll]

:0

Intresting

[tiny trellis]

makes sense from a programming standpoint

[chilly void]

Bois

Who should I ask for the contest prize?

I haven't received a message from Moopsten

And I am wondering if I have to start the conversation

[misty acorn]

I doubt it
But I'd say always reach out to gamr if you have questions/want an update

[cedar quest]

Normally I'm the one who passes out the money but since I wasn't providing for this contest, plus the oddity of the stream, I left them to it

DM Moopsten

[quartz locust]

Did we have any small-only contests in 2022? 😮

[ionic scroll]

:0

Whats small-only?

[quartz locust]

You can only do small sprites. 😛

[ionic scroll]

O god

Wait arent all sprites smol

[quartz locust]

Unevolved, so usually people use Onix to inflate the size, but still.

[ionic scroll]

Ooohhhh

[wind topaz]

Little cup

[loud tundra]

wait so did the aegislash sprite contest end

[ocean crown]

submissions have not ended yet

[tall moss]

made a sprite for the contest im gonna try to be doing 1 sprite per day this year

[silk gyro]

on top of everything else?

[plucky arch]

🤝

OH DAMN I GOTTA POST MINE TODAY THAT REMINDED ME

[loud tundra]

are they due tommorow or do we get tommorow also

[brave pilot]

Oh shit voting starts tomorrow?

[crude cedar]

January 4th just before Noon would be exactly 7 days after the announcement

(We had 5 days and then extended by 2 more)

But idk how precise they plan on being so get them in on January 3rd is my suggestion

So yes we should have tomorrow

[vagrant thorn]

Yea I haven't receive anything either 😅

[cedar quest]

That's....worrying

I'm normally the one to pass out the money, but due to the weird nature of this contest, plus my time already being strung thin. I left it to them. I'm hoping that doesn't come back to bite us in the ass

[silver merlin]

nahh i think he's just busy thats all lol

lets wait a couple more days before asking him whas up

[cedar quest]

Ye

[teal grove]

It's not like he'd scam us, if he didn’t want to pay he wouldn’t have started the contest to begin with

He doesn’t gain anything from hosting the contest. Not even subs or anything of the sort, since the influx of new members here from his channel was enormous compared to the reverse, which was practically minimal

[cedar quest]

Nah, that's not what I'm saying

I agree, I highly doubt he would

It's just moreso this just drags it out further

[tall moss]

the first contest I hosted back before yall were contest managers, it took 4 months for people to get their prizes

[graceful plank]

There are prizes?

[hybrid shell]

finally finished mine, do I have time for another?

[teal grove]

In sponsored contests, not normal ones

[hybrid shell]

ok, finished my second sprite, now I just wait for gamr to submit em

[wind topaz]

But he got content

[queen panther]

I just got contacted by Moopsten so it looks like hes alive and sorting out the winnings now

[ionic scroll]

I just made a fusion that only makes sense if one particular song is playing in the background- also been meaning to ask (its far too late for me to ask this now but might as well)
Are Aegislash’s pre-evos allowed to be used as part of the fusion (instead of Aegislash itself) or nah

[teal grove]

Only fusions with aegislash are allowed. If it doesn’t have aegislash, it isn’t allowed

[ionic scroll]

Makes sense

I suppose im done with my entries unless i really want to submit a third…

I hope anyone voting gets the reference

[craggy remnant]

i have 2 sprites i wanna enter but i have like. no confidence that they look good atm even though they feel nearly done

[tall moss]

no harm in submitting em

you have nothing to lose and everything to gain

[craggy remnant]

fair im just very unsure of myself w this sorta stuff since im still pretty new to spriting

[quartz locust]

It's always good to put yourself out there! You never know, you could be pleasantly surprised by how well they're received. 🙂

[wind matrix]

I'm gonna play skyrim. Can someone ping me to remind me to submit my entry? 👀

[quartz locust]

@wind matrix Submit your entry. 😛

[dry garden]

You've got to start somewhere! You got this! 👍

[craggy remnant]

i doubt ill get very far but at least ill have enough sprites to request the spriter role if i finish my sprites-

[plucky arch]

@wind matrix randy your sticks

[wind matrix]

I has done it. Now to watch it lose. You all are just too good 😂

[tall moss]

theres 67 entries atm

we need 2 more

no wait i refreshed

72

[wind topaz]

Just delete a few entries

[tall moss]

[wind matrix]

[tall moss]

ctrl+a

[wind matrix]

delete all of them and start over

[tiny trellis]

"Wow guys looks like there was only 1 entry! Congrats on 1st place Kiwi!"

[tall moss]

excuse u there are TWO entries

[tiny trellis]

I don't know if you entered but pretend you did

[tall moss]

first place goes to kiwi, 2nd to also kiwi

[tiny trellis]

poggers

[tall moss]

i almost made a jynx/aegislash

[wind matrix]

🤣

[tall moss]

it was gonna have a super long duck faced smooched lips as the blade

[wind matrix]

🤔

[tall moss]

i gave up on that idea

[ionic scroll]

Oh god

Thank goodness

[wind matrix]

never give up on your dreams kiwi

[tiny trellis]

long lips sword sounds more nightmare-like

[craggy remnant]

i panicked and thought entries just got closed

[wind matrix]

na, kiwi just deleted everything

[tall moss]

yes i did that

[thick atlas]

the contest ends today, am i right?

[teal grove]

Yes

In about 4 hours

iirc

[thick atlas]

ty

[normal oyster]

Can you get more time?

[thick atlas]

katten extended the time already by 2 days. but you can ask her again

[normal oyster]

@silver merlin can we get a lil but more time pls?

[tall moss]

katten

are we getting an extra dayyy

[silver merlin]

uhhh

[vagrant thorn]

maybe having an exact time limit would be helpful

[silver merlin]

suree

[vagrant thorn]

thank you great katten!!

[tall moss]

thank you kattennn

I'll have time do to a 3rd entry now when I get home

[errant hazel]

I wish I could do another entry but I've already done 3

[teal grove]

Woooooo one more day

[hybrid shell]

I can start a third entry now

[stray condor]

bro not me rushing sleeping till 1 AM last night just for it to be delayed a day

[wind matrix]

lol

[ionic scroll]

…do our entries need to be 288x288?

[wind matrix]

they should be the same for when doing a sprite for if

[vagrant thorn]

yes

[ionic scroll]

Crap

I didnt know that

Nghhh idk what to do cuz mine r all animated

[vagrant thorn]

you can export gif on higher res, which software are you using?

[ionic scroll]

,,,,,

Ibispaint and flipaclip and pixel studio (ios)

[vagrant thorn]

mmh, should be an option to export 300% dimention

but I don't know

[ionic scroll]

Flipaclip doesnt have that option and idk how to import gifs into pixel studio

Ill try to find a good website for it today

[vagrant thorn]

I can do it for you in aseprite and sent them to you on a private message

I'll download them from the drive and reexport them in the right dimension, just be sure to keep your original if something go wrong lol

[ionic scroll]

👉👈 are you sure that is okay

[vagrant thorn]

it will take like 2 sec XD

check your dm

[craggy remnant]

i gotta know is there a way to delete my files in the drive i have a stray pixel

[vagrant thorn]

you just need to update your files, if you import the fixed sprite it should ask you if you want to replace the old one, juste click yes (they should be name the same tho)

[normal oyster]

@silver merlin imma give you a kiss

[wind matrix]

owo

[plucky arch]

allrighty then

[craggy remnant]

ok awesome thanks

[craggy remnant]

fixed my sprite id work on a third but it fell apart and im not looking forward to working on it

i wanted to make yamask/aegislash w the sheild being a large mask but the proportions looked really weird so if i try it again im gonna have to make a more complex face to fill up the blank space or a less huge shield

[hybrid shell]

Nah, too tired to use this extra time for a third sprite

[craggy remnant]

same

[wind matrix]

I only did one

[misty acorn]

The amount of contest entries is actually insane

[craggy remnant]

we like swords

[errant hazel]

Making cool weapon designs is fun

[wind matrix]

meanwhile I hate drawing inanimate objects like swords :p

[craggy remnant]

i have fun w it as long as i have an idea im hyped about

otherwise its a slog

[glossy wagon]

I thought about entering this one and saw like 50 entries at the halfway point and the thought tired me out lol

[wind matrix]

you do the same amount of work regardless of the number of entries tho

[tall moss]

81 entries atm

[crude cedar]

maybe a three day extension wasnt needed

[tall moss]

more entries is more better

[wind matrix]

make it a three week extension

[tall moss]

three years

[normal oyster]

I require 3 centuries

[crude cedar]

the universe will end before the entry submission does

[wind matrix]

[tall moss]

3rd entry is in

[last inlet]

End it now, just to catch people offguard

[normal oyster]

When does it end exactly?

[cedar quest]

in 8 hours

[normal oyster]

Oh okk tnx

Didn’t see when katten edited it

[lethal axle]

[silk bolt]

i have a wholesome idea for an aegislash fusion , how much time do i have left ?

[misty acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-4hrs-4hours-gif-12595378

[vagrant thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/youd-better-hurry-stephen-abootman-south-park-s12e4-canada-on-strike-gif-21161373

[silk bolt]

OK LMAO IM TOO FAST FOR YOU

can someone send me the sprite of aegislash i can't find it and i need the colors

[silver merlin]

tbh not a fan of the outline colour of the yellowish parts on the sword lol

[silk bolt]

you're da besto

[quartz locust]

I'm pretty sure that Aegislash's Smogon colours changed in the first place because of IF. 😂

I have the receipts. 😉

[misty acorn]

Ah, I was looking up Aegislash on showdown db when the contest was announced and was suprised by how good the colors looked

Also puts into perspective how long I haven't worked with Aegislash

[quartz locust]

Two years, Tomate. Two years. 😂

[silk bolt]

@cursive sluice your aegislash onix is too small you should resize it before 6AM

[misty acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/pretty-ricky-5am-gif-13154008

[vagrant thorn]

maybe precise the timezone lol we have about 1h15 min left

[cursive sluice]

Aw man, I'm at work -_-

[silk bolt]

i can do it for you

i just wanted you to know

[cursive sluice]

I would really appreciate it, thank you!

[silk bolt]

np, i'll tell you when it will be done

[normal oyster]

How do you upload in the funny drive

[cursive sluice]

Can't believe I forgot that part

[silk bolt]

find the drive in sprite contest

[silk bolt]

it's a 96*96

[normal oyster]

Isnt it 288x288 in the drive?

[silk bolt]

click on it

you'll see it's really small

[vagrant thorn]

yes you should submit your sprite in 288x288

[normal oyster]

Ok tnx

[silk bolt]

shit i can't add anything

i resized it but i need to ad it

[vagrant thorn]

you can't ad it to the drive? @silver merlin TM is trying to replace this sprite because rampant didn't submit it the right size

[silk bolt]

i did it it's allright

[silver merlin]

sure

[silk bolt]

it worked the second time

[vagrant thorn]

oh cool

[silk bolt]

and a delete the old one at the same time

now im going back on my fusion (1 hour left omg what do i do)

[normal oyster]

Mine is in :3

[silk bolt]

mine is not finished

:"

[normal oyster]

Speedrun it

like me

[cursive sluice]

Thanks again :)

[ionic scroll]

~30 minutes left,,,

[plucky arch]

smth tells me this competition is going to be a tough one

like having to choose just one sprite

[vagrant thorn]

yes, there is so many good sprite!

[teal grove]

Only a couple of minutes left

[vagrant thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/2minutes-kevin-the-king-of-random-only-two-minutes-very-short-time-gif-19915048

[teal grove]

Man, this couldve been the klinklanklontest

[vagrant thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/fishes-child-and-fishes-gif-15765358

or fishy contest

[teal grove]

Maybe if klinklang/aegislash wins we'll get another klinklang head as a server icon but i doubt it

It is time

[normal oyster]

[vagrant thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-over-jayce-arcane-this-is-finished-were-done-here-gif-23854273

[normal oyster]

What will happen now

[vagrant thorn]

polls... someday

[teal grove]

Katten will wake up and make the polls

[normal oyster]

So we pass pong her?

[vagrant thorn]

nah, they are too occupied listening to the undertale ost

[teal grove]

do it anyway

Damn my discord froze for some reason

[silver merlin]

was talking about uh...

smth

with skeln

[teal grove]

It was still saying there were 2 minutes left before the contest until i reloaded it

[hybrid shell]

This is gonna take a long time

Large polls

[teal grove]

It better be the klinklang contest

[vagrant thorn]

nah they want to ban you

[teal grove]

[silver merlin]

you dont wanna know

[vagrant thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/nmplol-emiru-cyr-banned-gif-26412698

[silver merlin]

82 entries damn lol

uhhh

well that seems sus

[normal oyster]

Someone gonna suffer

[quartz locust]

The villainous , known scourge of the IF server.

[normal oyster]

Nice edit

[silver merlin]

not even an edit lmaoo

[silver merlin]

kinda fear it might be a mistake from the programs side

so uh

y'all couldve submitted 8 entries all along it seems 😈

[normal oyster]

It seems like a weird way to talk for a program

Never says like we, they, I

[silver merlin]

smh just blame tenedranox

its an age old tactic used by many contest managers

[normal oyster]

all entries have been removed, syntax error

[ionic scroll]

👀

[silver merlin]

lot of entries in this one so me and skeln had to figure out smth else lol

[hybrid shell]

its time

[silver merlin]

for me to rest

actually there might be some missing entries since it would never like, not remove the entries

hmm

[stoic oriole]

man that do be a lot of sprites

i count 82?

[silver merlin]

ye

[stoic oriole]

damn

#contest-polls is gone

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/680873073590927387.gif?v=1

[normal oyster]

Prenk em john

[errant hazel]

Oop

[stoic oriole]

who needs polls

[normal oyster]

Oh shi it’s true

[mortal storm]

Wow… that are far more than I expected haha

[stoic oriole]

just pull the gigachad move and click on 3 random sprites to have them be the winners

[silver merlin]

for some reason it removed like

some very specific sprites

[vagrant thorn]

Man, is it normal all mine are in the same poll?

[silver merlin]

yeah i know xoto lol

[silver merlin]

hey u get another shot now

[errant hazel]

That is plain unlucky

[stoic oriole]

see that small brian move. if you make 3, they might be in same poll. if you make exactly one sprite, there is a zero percent chance of it being in the same poll as another of your sprites

[mortal storm]

When they are back I will have a literal crisis choosing one out of 11/12 x(

[stoic oriole]

just make it like the scarlet violet fusion contest. have two sets of sprites and you only vote between the two of them

[silver merlin]

nah

[stoic oriole]

who needs time

[errant hazel]

Mmmm 40 votes

[silver merlin]

not happening lol, thats sponsored comp style

[plucky arch]

that took so long

[stoic oriole]

time is irrelevant

[normal oyster]

Just throw it in a google bot and let it pick the winner

[plucky arch]

put it on a spinner wheel and just spin

[errant hazel]

Not just 40 votes, there'd be like, a full half-life increase

[stoic oriole]

have the contest managers take 6 random sprites, then have a pokemon duel with said fusions

whoever loses has all of those sprites removed

[silver merlin]

huh, it still wont add them

interesting

[misty acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/fascinating-reginald-hargreeves-colm-feore-the-umbrella-academy-alluring-gif-26245520

[silver merlin]

perfectly normal 🚎

[stoic oriole]

translate that into mcdonalds for me pls

[normal oyster]

We don’t understand Russian

[silver merlin]

its just because i deleted a file lol nothing major

[stoic oriole]

katten out here deleting contest entries, arrest them for contest interference

/s

[silver merlin]

now to wait another half an hour for it to gather the sprites

lol we found out

the program deletes all your sprites if you make more than 3

guess who made more than 3 lmaooo

actually no

i just skimmed over the text

[crude cedar]

Who made it!

[silver merlin]

hmm

[stoic oriole]

was it u katten 👀

[crude cedar]

Oh

[silver merlin]

what lol

i submitted 3

[stoic oriole]

or did you 🤔

[silver merlin]

haha very funni

[errant hazel]

Does it perhaps count updating sprites?

[teal grove]

So no #contest-polls?

[misty acorn]

"There appears to be a not-anticipated problem in the program. Do you want to klick Continue, ignore the program error and progess with the program. Do you want to click shut and close the program with the same.

The program cannot find the file named "Sheet18.png" because it is used in another process."

Kinda like that?

[teal grove]

https://tenor.com/view/anger-angry-break-gif-19098093

[stoic oriole]

soltion: delete sheet18

i recognize my typo, however, i refuse to correct it

[silver merlin]

bruhh now it cant find the drive

why this program so stinky when i use it 🚎

[stoic oriole]

just manually make the images then, sanity be damned

[teal grove]

Yeah at this point it might be easier to just manually put the entries into the template

[silver merlin]

no

way worse

animations are a thing lol

[stoic oriole]

make image
animations are replaced with a single frame with a look at next post sign
post animation immediatly after poll
???
profit

[ionic scroll]

Hm

[errant hazel]

If it's a hassle, I can resubmit mine without its animation

[silver merlin]

its not

just the program being really bad rn

[ionic scroll]

Is it because the program thinks that when the files say “By (name)” it thinks that the space directly after “By” is the same name

[silver merlin]

there we go

finally got it fuckin working

(its struggling to load 90 sprites lmaooo

[plucky arch]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[stoic oriole]

the one gif i can hear

[silver merlin]

welp while its loading imma go eat food

[misty acorn]

nooo wait

[misty acorn]

judge my translation first

[stoic oriole]

10/10

[misty acorn]

thank

[stoic oriole]

it used to be not english, now it do be english

all i ask for in translating

[teal grove]

Used in another process... ive had that error a surprising amount of times

[cursive sluice]

Abort, Ignore, Retry, Fail?

[silver merlin]

pretty good pretty good

solid 8/10

[misty acorn]

Tomato can read danish

[weary pagoda]

Oh no I just made a lil mistake and edited after

[teal grove]

Have you found why the program is struggling? I mean, it cant just be the amount of entries, right?

[silver merlin]

its prolly the amount of entries and that its just had a personal rivalry with me ever since i first downloaded it

[teal grove]

I assume it gets access to the drive and uses the sprites in it?

In that case, splitting the drive up in two before feeding it into the program would probably make it work better

[silver merlin]

it worked in the end so lmao

[normal oyster]

Bru post it in tech support 🗿

[silver merlin]

haha very funni

[silver merlin]

yeah maybe until i use the æøå

like

ø å are words lmaoo

[plush vale]

@silver merlin at least 2 of the images are gifs that poof when I try to open image in new tab to get larger

[silver merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[silver merlin]

which ones lol

open it in a browser

[misty acorn]

or restart discord, that sometimes helps already

[plush vale]

Ithey're all starting to do the thing when source image is gone]

ok restarting fixed it discord be jank

[brave pilot]

Both of my favorites are in the same poll lol

[plucky arch]

it was really hard to pick on some of these

[hybrid shell]

yeah, Lmao,

[errant hazel]

Is that the old polls?

[plush vale]

idek anymore

dont talk about voted on stuff

[silver merlin]

but yeah we shouldnt

[errant hazel]

He rockin and rollin

[silver merlin]

so therefor i will just

🚎

erased

[tiny trellis]

oh, I think I'm still seeing the old polls, gonna restart discord I guess

[hybrid shell]

there we go

[teal grove]

Ik me and katten kinda repopularized animating sprites but this is horrid

[plucky arch]

are we allowed to talk about a general group of sprites? for example the fact that Weather Trio got quite a few

[errant hazel]

My best sprite got placed into the one with all my favorite ones

Integrity be damned though, voting for myself

[plucky arch]

i believe it was 3 Rayquazas, 2 Groudons and a Kyogre

[silver merlin]

kyogre is the best one of the weather trio

not up for debate

[hybrid shell]

Rayquaza, take the dabate

[plucky arch]

oh easily i love Kyogre

[ionic scroll]

Crap two of my sprites r in the same voting box lol

[plucky arch]

the other two are cool and all but Kyogre has always been my favourite

[hybrid shell]

I love them all, (except groudon)

[silver merlin]

grawdown

[misty acorn]

I love them all (except all of them-)

[plucky arch]

honestly, generally, i dont like legendaries

[hybrid shell]

fair

[plucky arch]

like i enjoy some, but in the grand scheme i dont rly

honestly i like more Mythicals then Legendaries

[hybrid shell]

I agree with that statement

[plush vale]

I like primal groudon a lot

[plucky arch]

like my favorite pokemon are Vanillite, Staravia, and Magnemite

[misty acorn]

Legendarys would be a lot cooler if they didnt make up 10% of all mons

[errant hazel]

I like making legendary fusions if their colors really pop

[hybrid shell]

fusions are a different game imo

[plucky arch]

if that gives you a grasp of what i like in pokemon

[plush vale]

.

[hybrid shell]

Its like , the difference between “I like watching a sport” “I like playing a sport”

[plush vale]

we all know crazes fave legendary is the banana

[normal oyster]

If you see a sprite missing pls dont tell everyone

Lmfaoooo 😭

[misty acorn]

I think it was 10% at some point

Maybe around gen 4 or 5

[hybrid shell]

I forget that this thing even exists

one of my least favourites tbh

[ocean crown]

despite being a generation i barely remember playing i think lugia is my fav legend

[vagrant thorn]

my fave legends is entei, only because the movie was my fav as a child ❤️

[plush vale]

not ||chi-yu||?

[silver merlin]

my fav is none cuz i havent thought about it

[hybrid shell]

absolutely same

[teal grove]

My favorite legendary pokemon... i dont think i have one

[errant hazel]

I like the eon duo cause I watched the movie a ton as a kid

[plush vale]

oshawotts fave is meloetta (unless we aint counting mythicals)

[teal grove]

Perhaps kyurem, the original fusion pokemon

[vagrant thorn]

and my fav pokemon are all the good doggo ❤️ and samurott, cause water doggo

[normal oyster]

Whens the voting?

[plush vale]

wouldnt you like magearna husk?

[teal grove]

Now

[vagrant thorn]

now, refresh discord if you dont see it

[normal oyster]

Thats maybe why

[silver merlin]

meloetta is awesome

[hybrid shell]

is mudkip a, Mud doggo?

[vagrant thorn]

mmmh... yes

you can also count clodsire now for mud doggo

[plucky arch]

gen 4 went ham with the legends thats prolly why

[errant hazel]

How long does voting last for?

[teal grove]

24 hours

[plucky arch]

i think gen 5 balanced it out mostly cause it introduced a lot of mons

[errant hazel]

Makes sense

[teal grove]

Originally Zygarde was going to be in gen 5 too

[plush vale]

not 6?

[teal grove]

Yeah

[hybrid shell]

Oh yeah! Zygarde is epic

[plucky arch]

theres 14 legendaries/mythicals in gen 4

[teal grove]

Also, fun fact

Gen 5 is the biggest generation

156 pokemon were added

[plush vale]

gen 5 had victini meloetta genesect reshiram kyurem zekrom tao trio sword trio
gen 4 has shaymin darkrai heatran regigas arceus palkia dialga giratina and lake trio

[plucky arch]

its only the only generation which has a pokedex not starting with the grass starter iirc

[vagrant thorn]

with best dog evo line

[plucky arch]

gen 4 also had 50 less pokemon then gen 5

[plush vale]

what brought it to 14 teeh

[silver merlin]

yeah cuz it was like a great reset for pokemon lol

they were actually gonna do the same for gen 3 aswell

[plush vale]

ik but ya talked about it going ham

[silver merlin]

which is why wurmple and taillow exist

[plush vale]

not just affecting ratio

[teal grove]

And the fans really didn’t like the same 3 kanto pokemon not being in route 1 for the bajillionth time

[normal oyster]

Is it normal you dont see ppl vote?

[silver merlin]

yeah lol

[plush vale]

yes thats by design

[normal oyster]

Oh lmaooo

[plucky arch]

lemme make a legendary tier list real quick lets see

[tiny trellis]

🕵️

[normal oyster]

Thought you just wouldn’t see who voted

[tiny trellis]

seeing the numbers would sway the votes most likely

[teal grove]

I cant believe people were like "pokemon A from gen 5 is just pokemon B from gen 1 but different"
Sweety that’s the goddamn point

[plush vale]

yeah but they went WAAAY too heavy on it ing en 5

[plucky arch]

ok this one doesnt have gen 8 or 9 but eh whatever i honestly dont have strong opinions on the legends from those gend

[plush vale]

trying to capture same makeup without much thought as to why and made it hard for a lot of the m mons to stand on their own

[teal grove]

Care to give an example?

[plush vale]

on top of normal stuff

wait

this aint channel for this

[plucky arch]

i honestly like quite a few of the gen 5 mons more then gen 1 counterparts

i will always enjoy Gigalith over Golem

[plush vale]

fair

[teal grove]

Same

Also dont bring up sawk and throh, everyone hates those for their own reasons

[plush vale]

but even then it's a hurdle that leaves it feeling like less new substantial additions

those are just hitmonduo

[teal grove]

They’re their counterparts

[plucky arch]

not Conkeldurr tho, screw Conkeldurr

[teal grove]

But worse because their designs are too human

[teal grove]

Oh no i love him

[plucky arch]

hes too veiny

[plush vale]

they did a not great job actually explaining the signifigance of the trios in it

[teal grove]

That think hits like you'd expect something strong enough to walk around with massive concrete pillars would hit

[teal grove]

Trios? You mean the genies and swords?

[plucky arch]

yes cause gen 1 explained the birds so well
100% sure it was just "oh! there are birds now !"

[plush vale]

yeah but I'm comparing to recenter gens before that and again we should move

#other-pokemon-games

[errant hazel]

I wish they figured out regional variants by that gen, cause instead of saw Sawk and Throh, we could've gotten regional hitmons

[teal grove]

Lmao

[plucky arch]

hell gen 8 did a better job at explaining the birds then gen 1 did

[quartz locust]

Actually, excluding Johto (which is Kantwo), none of the early Route Pokémon from any region appeared early into another region until XY. 😮

[plush vale]

ok guess mod says this is fine here

[silver merlin]

kantowo

[plush vale]

kattowo

[silver merlin]

so true

[plucky arch]

im just glad they switch the mons around in the new games, and not just the same ones
but also some mons need more love and to be in new games, and i think we should also stop adding the pseudo legends

[plush vale]

but yeah the lake trio was very well integrated regis had this whole mysterious puzzle nature at least and thent ehy double up on trios but neither is flesed out enough to feel why they are that significant

[plush vale]

they def aint droppin pseudos

[misty acorn]

🦀 Wurmple and Taillow appreciation moment 🦀

[plucky arch]

i know 😔 but itd be nice not to see the handful of pseudo legends dropped into every game

and instead allowing the new one to shine

like ngl this new guy,, idk whats going on with him

i do not know his name, ive never seen one in the wild

[plush vale]

thats not their fault

[errant hazel]

Let's get a pokemon game without Pikachu in it

[plush vale]

how bout eevee who eats up 10 slots

[misty acorn]

Or Magikarp

Who was in all gens other than gen Hoen I believe

[plush vale]

magikarp was in hoenn

[misty acorn]

you sure? 👀

ok yo'ure right

[plush vale]

yep was the old rod mon along with tentacool

[cursive sluice]

I can't help seeing clodsire as one of those Chinese giant salamanders

[plush vale]

reminder he do this

[vagrant thorn]

yes, but salamender are the irl mud doggo

[plush vale]

actually dogs are the irl mud doggo

[vagrant thorn]

dont have to spoil anymore

[vagrant thorn]

damn... you right

[plush vale]

yeah but felt like it since contestgeneral

[misty acorn]

Ah, you mean the channel were we were talking about gen 9 fusions for like a month straight?

[cursive sluice]

Everything /Lokix, go 😄

[plush vale]

fair enough

[plush vale]

or just kamen rider/sentai contest

[cursive sluice]

A Sentai contest would be amazing lol

[plush vale]

inb4 megazord

[cursive sluice]

I now have the urge to make the Ginyu Force out of pokemon

[teal grove]

You know what would be nice? A non-dragon type pseudo

Unless it’s a bug/dragon pseudo im 100% down for that

[plucky arch]

absolutely

[normal oyster]

Metagross:

[uneven swan]

tyranitar

[normal oyster]

Also

[plucky arch]

also a starter thats not one of the 4 secondary types they give em

its like always Fighting, Psychic, Flying, Dark or Ghost

[uneven swan]

we got steel and ground wit gen 4

[plucky arch]

and that was like 15 years ago 😔

give us a Rock starter or Electric smth

[teal grove]

ANOTHER non-dragon pseudo

[uneven swan]

the first elec fire should be a starter

rotom

but you know

[plush vale]

they insist on that or fairy (not flying) because secondary triangle over variety

[uneven swan]

yeah since gen 6 we get lot of triangles

[teal grove]

You know what they say about triangles

https://tenor.com/view/mlg-illuminati-illuminati-confirmed-conspiracy-theory-gif-4887893

[plucky arch]

Rock, Flying, Fighting would be fun,, except its fighting

Grass/Fighting at least

[uneven swan]

3 ghosts type is the only right answer

[teal grove]

Nah

3 dragons

[uneven swan]

how bout fire, grass, water

[plucky arch]

i would not be against 3 dragons

[uneven swan]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-spongebob-meme-weird-face-gif-15779118

[plush vale]

we've gotten a lotta grass fighting lately

[errant hazel]

Damn I read back and the Kamen Rider themed stuff is a good idea

[plush vale]

2 in hisui

[plucky arch]

honestly any starter with a Rock type would be pretty dope

like Water/Rock could be Coral, or Fire/Rock would be Magma

[plush vale]

water rocks been done a ton sadly including as coral

grass rock is rare, fire rock has h arcanine margcargo and colossal line so its in middle

[plucky arch]

yeahh

[errant hazel]

I think ice has some real potential

[plucky arch]

Ice starter would be fun

[errant hazel]

Grass/Ice and Fire/Ice do have a bit going for them, especially as starters

[teal grove]

isn't grass/rock only for cradily?

[errant hazel]

Think so

[quartz locust]

I think Ice and Electric would be really cool types for starters. 🙂

[errant hazel]

Grass/Rock, Fire/Ice, Water/Electric. Boom, dream generation

[quartz locust]

Yes. I maintain that Rillaboom should have been Grass/Rock though, if only for the rock music pun. Could have just made his drums out of rock and wood. 😄

[teal grove]

choosing fire here is like choosing empoleon

[misty acorn]

I think they should just scrap the fire water gras thing already. Doing it 9 times in a row is at least 5 times too much lol

[radiant forge]

I'm definitely down for more Ice types always

[plush vale]

they arent gonna scrap fire water grass likely

[errant hazel]

The issue is that they built the types around it so they don't really have types to replace it well

[plush vale]

I'd jsut like variety of combos

[errant hazel]

Not to say there aren't combos, but they don't work as well

[plucky arch]

yeah i think theres only 1 or 2 other "perfect" triangles

[misty acorn]

Just find 2 types that fit and introduce a new one to get another perfect triangle

Haven't had a new type since gen 6 anyway

Sound would probably the most logical thing to turn into a type

[teal grove]

you mean that each type also resists the one they're good against?

[misty acorn]

And god the Whismur line needs it to become cooler

[errant hazel]

They could retroactively add a ton of sound types true

[misty acorn]

Chingling

[plucky arch]

yeah, all i can remember is Fighting, Rock, Flying

[misty acorn]

Chatot

[errant hazel]

Chatot, there's a list

Actually I love the chimecho line so I'm all for it

[misty acorn]

Kricketot

[teal grove]

they could also try starting out with a non-perfect triangle but then create a perfect one with secondary types

[plush vale]

sound types are nah

[plucky arch]

i also think Grass/Ground/Poison works too

[misty acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-kricketune-gif-18237517

[plush vale]

it's a move aspect doesnt need to be a type

[misty acorn]

why not?

[plush vale]

ntm basically every special normal move is sound already

[misty acorn]

havent had a type in ages

[plush vale]

shouldnt add a type for the sake of it

[teal grove]

because it would mean a bite type can exist too

and a ballistic type

[errant hazel]

There's like a semi perfect circle with fighting and dark somewhere yeah? I forgot what the third is

[teal grove]

and a punch type

etc

[teal grove]

psychic

[near wave]

should there be like a fusion between hooh and hooh if thats even possible

[plucky arch]

psychic, theres that immunity in there

[teal grove]

lol

[plush vale]

fighting dark fairy

[teal grove]

why are you asking that here

[errant hazel]

Ohhhh that's why it's off

[teal grove]

dark gets fucked

[plush vale]

ah mb

[misty acorn]

they can just nerf fairy

like they did with stel

[plush vale]

they nerfed and buffed it at same time tb f

[shadow agate]

Fun idea for Ho-oh/Ho-oh is classic Ho-oh, the version that showed up in the anime.

[teal grove]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAKE THEM STOP RESISTING BUG

[plush vale]

-2 resistance +1 supereffective

[shadow agate]

anyways

[misty acorn]

yea

[plush vale]

bug did not need the nerf

[errant hazel]

New plan, buff bug types, make a bug triangle

[plucky arch]

ice needs like a buff too

[shadow agate]

I swear bug used to be good against fighting.

[near wave]

ye like how rayquaza/rayquaza is just mega rayquaza there should be like a fanmade mega hooh or smth

[plucky arch]

im pretty sure ice just sucks so much ass

[misty acorn]

ice moves are good tho

[shadow agate]

or was it psychic.

Everyone a F for Glaceon not having icicle spear in S/V.

[errant hazel]

I think ice just has to have more things it's super effective against for it to make sense

[teal grove]

it still is good against psychic

[errant hazel]

I get it not having good defensive types, but add the offense to justify it

[plucky arch]

psychic is good against fighting and bug resists fighting

[shadow agate]

then i think I was thinking fighting.

[misty acorn]

maybe in gen 1 due to a programing error or something, but pretty sure the only bug attack back then was twin needle

[teal grove]

ice only resists itself and has 4 weaknesses

[shadow agate]

Yeah bug resists fighting, but isn't strong against it.

[plush vale]

glaceon is a special attacker

it doesn't care

[teal grove]

in gen 1 due to a programming error psychic was immune to ghost

[shadow agate]

... ah.

[errant hazel]

I was leaning more into that those 4 weakness are damning ones

[misty acorn]

but there was only like lick and night shade or something so whatever

[plucky arch]

ice is good against flying what?

[shadow agate]

Ice, Ground, Grass maybe?

I'd saying Flying but.. yeah

[teal grove]

and the strongest bug type move any bug type could learn in gen 1 was twineedle beedrill

however

nidoking learned megahorn

[misty acorn]

its okay

I forgive your dumbness

[plucky arch]

heres what ice looks like atm

[errant hazel]

Like fire, rock, fighting, steel are probably the 4 worst weaknesses in the game

[plush vale]

flipped it too mayn times on what its super against

[shadow agate]

Oh.

I thought it was weak to ground.

[plush vale]

you thought ice was weak tog rass too?

[shadow agate]

No.

I knew it was strong against grass.

I don't use ice types often.

Usually I just use fighting or steel to take it down.

[errant hazel]

Make ice super effective against water and fairy, maybe one more. Then I think it works as a glass canon type

[shadow agate]

It's weird it isn't immune to water.

[plush vale]

water resists it rn

[shadow agate]

cause water is literally frozen water, water can't do crap to ice.

[plush vale]

so dk about em flipping that

[errant hazel]

To which I find weird

[shadow agate]

I guess the argument is "pressurized water"

[plucky arch]

they did kind of give Ice a buff by having Snow, but not really cause they just got rid of Hail

[shadow agate]

but pressurized water can also overwhelm some of its pokemon weakness.

cough, grass

[errant hazel]

Ice freezes water and that's all I have to say about it

[plush vale]

hence freeze dry

[shadow agate]

Seriously, take a water pressure washer hose to a lawn. It will slice through it.

[plucky arch]

ice was cool when it was the dragon killer

but now Fairy exists and is just so buff

[shadow agate]

Ice should be immune to water, change my mind

Yeah but Fairy DID give poison more of a purpose.

Poison was kind of underwhelming before.

[plush vale]

i dont think they wanan give any of starter trio types something immune to em typewise

[errant hazel]

Make ice kill fairy, make ice kill another defensive powerhouse type

Ice is suddenly okay

[plush vale]

except with tera and fact pokemon can use moves that arent their type

it's problematic

[plucky arch]

Ice also has the least amount of pokemon

[teal grove]

what

i thought that was dragon

[plucky arch]

ice has 58 pokemon

[teal grove]

oh wait dragon probably has more because of legendaries

[plush vale]

also pseudos are always three stage

[plucky arch]

dragon and fairy are tied with 69 (nice)

[teal grove]

on the top of my head i can already count enough legendaries to put dragon below ice

[plush vale]

contests huh

[teal grove]

3 in hoenn, the legendary trios of sinnoh and unova, ultra necrozma and zygarde

[errant hazel]

On the topic of legendaries, I want more bugs

[plucky arch]

ice had 1 "normal" pokemon linein gen 9

[teal grove]

yeah, more than just genesect

[plucky arch]

Cetitan
then there was the Psuedo, Iron Bundle, and the Ruin guy

[plush vale]

thats a tie not putting it below

[teal grove]

considering they're going quite overboard with the bst on legendaries bug would nicely balance their power out

[plucky arch]

it also doesnt help that the Icy area is usually always last

[teal grove]

then add the two latest legendaries to the bunch

[plucky arch]

by the time you get there youve already made your team

[plush vale]

volcarona was a weird case

[teal grove]

volcarona is a semi-pseudo legendary

[plush vale]

also there arebug legends in ultrabeasts

[teal grove]

those arent legendaries

[plucky arch]

well ultra beasts arent legendary

[plush vale]

effectively they are

[plucky arch]

just like how paradoxes arent

[teal grove]

would you call scream tail a legendary

[plush vale]

kinda

[teal grove]

no you wouldn't

[plush vale]

but ultra beast are far more promiennt in hwo they show up and orle they play

[teal grove]

yeah that doesn't mean shit

[plucky arch]

theyre not legendaries but they arent, nromal pokemon either

its a different catagory

[teal grove]

they're quite literally just pokemon from another planet

considering clefable is from the moon and not a legendary, i dont think being extraterrestrial means legendary

[plush vale]

statwise they are treated as legendaries

[errant hazel]

Stat totals are what matter I think, they both have 570 average

[teal grove]

the ub's have 570

[errant hazel]

Same as the paradox mon

[teal grove]

paradox mons have 570 and 590

[errant hazel]

Now like, Necrozma we can separate

[teal grove]

besides, if just stats were important then we'd call slaking a legend too

[plush vale]

has an ability nerf

[errant hazel]

So does regigigas

[plush vale]

yeah but ones worse

anyways aint saying there shouldnt be more bug legends

jsut it aint exactly nada

[teal grove]

yeah, slow start is worse

[plush vale]

not really

you can stall that out

[teal grove]

because regigigas is in pu while slaking is ru

[plush vale]

anyways tapus have same stat totals as ubs

as do the new legend quartet

[errant hazel]

Around the ballpark of the lake spirits if you want to get into it

[teal grove]

i dont think that means shit

[plush vale]

those arte 580 along with non cover legendaries pre gen 7 or well 6 cause there weren't any

they are functionally legends is what it means

[errant hazel]

Yeah but by legend title, only some of them qualify

[teal grove]

yknow what? many have had this argument before us, so lets see what they settled on

onto bulbapedia

[plush vale]

I aint speaking to official lore titles