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coral brook
oh but look here
flapple can set up ddance
and destroy that ice type instead
what can appletun do?
bright hemlock
Be a Chongus being able to not get OHKOd by a Snowflake
Also Frigging Bakugan Apple looks nakad
thin pasture
Magnum, ever heard of coverage?
green oxide
I just use Flapple because I like Apples...
molten perch
13k encounters later...
Welp time to Masuda breed for ponyta instead of being dumb and random encounter hunting
green oxide
i just realised that Piers is the first ever dark type gym leader
vale pebble
But how!?
verbal steppe
verbal steppe
Bug won
tacit elm
👍
verbal steppe
Any early strong bugs that aren't blipbug?
fading robin
you can find sizzlipede on route 3 with a very low encounter rate random in grass
grubin you can find in route 1 random in grass
unborn granite
Found my first shiny in Shield!
vale pebble
Coolio
verbal steppe
Dracovish is a good choice might I add
tacit elm
He almost looks like he doesn't want to murder all existence.
pine ingot
yeah. when I first saw it I thought it was just a weird fish
but nope, it's gotta be upside down like that
sad
green oxide
I have taken my love for the fossils to the next level
I’m making them competitive
I’m still working on ArctoZolt but the others are done
charred stag
@verbal steppe frosmoth, Durant, any of the electric bugs
Frosmoth isn’t early but Durant and the electrics are
gloomy vector
so I found a shiny
also it's one of those square one's
this was an unexpected fined
bright hemlock
Show me a Square Shiny Antique Teacup Ghost
gloomy vector
no
it's my first shiny in swsh (without any exploits)
and no shiny charm
what luck do I have to find that
like bruh
ya probably
also that was my first encounter since I took a break from these games
shell steeple
@bright hemlock you forgot to ask for perfect ivs
jagged oriole
Base shiny rate is 1/4096.
molten perch
yet nobody cared about my shiny that took 13k encounters
unborn granite
I think due to a bug, Square shinies are more common in the wild then stars and stars are more common in eggs than squares.
green oxide
Smogon website
limpid trail
Ummm... WHAT!?
unborn granite
There's a Magikarp event with boosted shiny rates going on right now
thin stag
can you even get Magikarp from raids, if you finished the game?
verbal steppe
Imagine using the safety straps 
gilded grove
sorry but i dont want to yeet my wiimote through the tv
hot marsh
So im currently at 5 shinies: lucario, zard, gmax corv, gmax champ and karp
clear lion
OKE
safe lion
shiny magikarp is a complete different pokemon apparently to normal magikarps
normal has 3 barriers and shiny has 6
verbal steppe
Question where tf Durant at
charred stag
There’s some in the wild area
If u see one then you know where every single one spawns
Except sometimes I find strong overworld mons in the wild area in places that don’t match up with their dex habitat?
thin stag
Giant's Mirror and Lake of Outrage during Intense Sun
limpid trail
Perhaps it's just now a lot more common, but right now I had three shiny Magikarp thanks to the event; with the two most recent ones being back-to-back.
charred stag
The shiny economy is PLUMMETING
shell steeple
minor widget
what's good about dynamaxing
cunning parrot
Nothing
minor widget
what good does it bring
cunning parrot
It’s a gimmick that will be left behind in the next games
minor widget
genuinely curious
shell steeple
It can make more mons viable that weren't that good before
minor widget
does it?
cunning parrot
Why don’t they just give them different abilities or moves to do that instead of something lazy like three turns to be super powerful
minor widget
why would i use dynamax on a weak mon instead of a good mon?
cunning parrot
That too
shell steeple
It gives Durant more viability because it has moves that can make it raise defense or attack
cunning parrot
Is Durrant in the game
minor widget
wouldnt i be better off dynamaxing scizor?
minor widget
that's a goddamn good argument
shell steeple
The dex cut makes it so you stop using all the the meta mons
minor widget
yeah i'll stop using aegislash i guess
shell steeple
No more landorus
cunning parrot
And start using new meta mons
shell steeple
No more primal stuff
minor widget
aegislash is ubers you know
cunning parrot
There’s two primal Pokémon
shell steeple
Aegislash gets countered easy
minor widget
by what
cunning parrot
If this was any other series, they would have patches to balance out every Pokémon being created
minor widget
oh yeah
shell steeple
Vish
cunning parrot
Everything has something that’s probably a great counter, but then there’s a counter for that Pokémon also
shell steeple
That is how balance works
pine ingot
I'd rather see evolutions of old pokemon like theyve done with Steelix and Electivire than gimmicks like megas and dynamax
cunning parrot
So saying something gets countered easily is true for every Pokémon
cunning parrot
That’s why
They think they are cool
minor widget
but steelix and electivire are really bad
pine ingot
I was just using them as examples tho lol even if they're bad
there are good examples like that
minor widget
anyway GF has absolutely no idea of what they're doing
they kept giving mega evolutions to the wrong mons
shell steeple
I think they do
minor widget
so you're telling me they learned from their mistakes
open stirrup
Megas were cool tho, I could finally use beedrill
shell steeple
Every Pokémon can dynamax
pine ingot
I got used to megas
minor widget
but then how come smogon had to ban the entirety of dynamax because of mons like gyarados
shell steeple
Gyrados gets countered by togedemaru
pine ingot
I think gigantamax pikachu and eevee are good examples that it's possible some pokemon like Pinsir and Heracross can still get regular evolutions instead of just megas
minor widget
if it was that good of a counter they surely wouldnt have banned dynamaxing
pine ingot
I'm actually surprised they never made Mega Pikachu
minor widget
well they gave him 3 Z-moves iirc
pine ingot
eh, I don't count those silly things lol
minor widget
btw i fail to see how togedemaru is supposed to counter gyarados
it doesnt even resist water
shell steeple
Doesn't have to
minor widget
yeah well
even with max hp and def investment
and def boosting nature
gyarados one shots it with a 20 to 40% margin
funny thing is
if zeraora was in the game for example
maybe that would have been a good enough counter to that strategy
worthy pulsar
Only fully evolved Pokemon can get megas.
pine ingot
oh Ik that, I just don't like that that's how it works lol
worthy pulsar
Believe me, if they didn't make Raichu then Pikachu would have at least 1 mega.
They do everything they can to ignore Raichu.
pine ingot
I just like to think they would kind of retcon the way it works so pokemon like Heracross and Pinsir could still get a permanent evolution
figured if they were to ever do that then they would give their mascot Pikachu a mega
just wishful thinking
worthy pulsar
I don't think it matters since mega evolution likely won't be seen again going forward.
worthy pulsar
That's what I said.
pine ingot
right.. I was kinda hoping the gmax would give me some hope for that
shell steeple
They couldn't give pikachu or eevee a mega so they gave charizard and mewtwo a extra one
worthy pulsar
There was nothing stopping them from making a mega Raichu.
pine ingot
Regional evos like Cursola kinda give me hope that we'll see previous pokemon get new evolutions but I'd rather they not be regional forms.. but that's just me
like I would have loved to see original Mr Mime evolve but instead the newer one gets an evolution? Idk that kinda bugged me
shell steeple
They do that so older games don't feel outdated
worthy pulsar
Except they always do.
pine ingot
yea I don't blame them for that
shell steeple
They don't want people asking why couldn't you evolve it last gen
worthy pulsar
It doesn't matter, they try new things and then in the next games they pretend it never happened.
shell steeple
That's why to get a munchlax you need to breed snorlax with a lax incense
pine ingot
Oh but theyve always done then ever since Scizor, Steelix and the baby mons gen 2
I missed when they did that stuff
they stopped with gen 4
shell steeple
Because it was making plot holes in the franchise
worthy pulsar
Gen 5 was a fresh start, from there they began experimenting.
shell steeple
People were asking why couldn't I breed two pikachu in the last game to get a pichu
worthy pulsar
Like the baby Pikachu in the early anime.
pine ingot
that never really bothered me tho. I guess that's a valid point tho
and yea gen 5 was great imo
in terms of story and most of the mon designs
I liked how they gave them evos and pre-evos... it made them feel more complete for me at least
worthy pulsar
I liked Volcarona more than the ice type that's new.
pine ingot
frosmoth is kind of a simple design
in a good way
but volcarona just has a lot more going on
worthy pulsar
What stopped them from making that a regional variant though, honestly?
Both forms look very similar.
pine ingot
not sure. regional variants are a pretty cool addition but I have to say I don't think they've thought it through too much
shell steeple
They forgot about volcorona
worthy pulsar
They remembered enough to copy the design enough and make it the opposite type.
pine ingot
you gotta admit snom is pretty adorable tho
worthy pulsar
It's got a thing going for it, like Pyukumuku and the new thing that looks exactly like Pyukumuku but isn't.
pine ingot
yea now that I will agree was kind of a weird choice
I mean, we just had pyukumuku, I didn't think we needed another pokemon so similar to it so soon but whatever lol
worthy pulsar
And they're not at all related.
pine ingot
not as weird as luvdisc and alomomola not being related
worthy pulsar
That always struck me as odd, especially since Luvdisc is such a terrible Pokemon to not have an evolution.
pine ingot
yep.. back to my point as to why they should bring back evos of previous pokemon lol
but oh well. I don't get to hung up on these things as much as I used to
I've accepted pokemon wil never fully please me lol
worthy pulsar
I have too many gripes with these games to get them, but we'll see what they come up with in the years to come. For now, I eagerly await Temtem.
worthy pulsar
It's coming out the 21st, I'm pretty excited for it.
pine ingot
yeah, I haven't bought a pokemon game since diamond and pearl
I was young and learned how to get them for free on the internet so naturally I did that instead lol
worthy pulsar
Sword and Shield is the first time I haven't gotten a Pokemon game, I've been in it since the beginning.
pine ingot
I kinda felt like I was getting too old to be buying the games
worthy pulsar
Well, barring a few of the side games like Puzzle League.
I feel like if they made a Mystery Dungeon of Sword and Shield I'd be all over that, but the main two I'll pass.
pine ingot
it's funny in a way to me. I don't wanna sound like the I told you so guy but I've seen the kind of backlash pokemon got this time around coming for awhile
shell steeple
I played through all of sword and shield all the way into post game and only saw pincurchin twice
worthy pulsar
I was part of the calmer crowd of bring back national dex, I didn't send any kind of hate mail to Gamefreak or other people.
But as always people only remember the radicals on each side.
pine ingot
yeah it's kind of obnoxious
that's why I haven't said anything about it online until just now really lol
I was kind of excited to see the franchise get put in their place after all these years of wanting to see some change with it
but once it came I felt kinda bad that it did because I've always been pretty passionate about pokemon
hope it gets better
worthy pulsar
This might be the end of my support of Pokemon unless they change.
pine ingot
I've told people for years that the people who own pokemon are sitting on a goldmine lol even before the pokemon go phenomenon
I wanted to see them make an open world game, kinda like what they were going for with swsh
but yanno not bad lol
worthy pulsar
An MMO was something a ton of people wanted and they never did it.
pine ingot
imagine an open world single player tho.. where you walk around in 3rd or even 1st person if you like
fallout or skyrim esque
and when you get in a battle you actual play as the pokemon
that was always kinda my dream of where the franchise would go
open stirrup
I'm kinda sick of random encounters, I prefer just running into them in the overworld
worthy pulsar
There was a fangame like that I remember. It looked really good for it's time but Nintendo shut it down.
pine ingot
idk don't they look kinda silly in the overworld tho? jmo
open stirrup
Some do
worthy pulsar
It only had like 6 Pokemon though, maybe upwards of 10.
pine ingot
it's not a bad idea but it could use some work
yea that's the thing is that it would take a lot of work to program battling styles for every pokemon
worthy pulsar
Some Pokemon look silly because they need to personalize the animations a bit more, instead of what Wingull does.
open stirrup
They just have have wingull dive bomb from a shadow
shell steeple
Missingyes just play pokepark then
worthy pulsar
But it's okay, because you can cook 100 different curry and like 50 forms of Alcremie.
shell steeple
That is basically what you wanted
open stirrup
Alcremie is kinda cool
pine ingot
idk what that is
shell steeple
Look it up
worthy pulsar
Alcremie is that one that is made of whipped cream with various toppings.
shell steeple
It is a open world game where you play as Pokémon
worthy pulsar
Oh you meant Pokepark lol
open stirrup
I'd like a tactical or mystery dungeon game, maybe with a more mature setting/story
Digimon survive looks nice
shell steeple
Pokémon conquest is a thing
worthy pulsar
Pokepark was more like Mario Party in my opinion, with the mini games.
pine ingot
yeah. no all them alcremie forms were a stupid thing agreed
open stirrup
Pokemon conquest was just like Japanese history, but with Pokemon, right?
worthy pulsar
With some Fire Emblem thrown in, yeah.
shell steeple
The mini games were barely ey a part of pokepark, they were only in there so they could say it was multiplayer
pine ingot
it's not exactly what I want out of a pokemon game tho. I mean that's why I was so mad about Pokemon Go
because they advertised it as the pokemon experience everyone had been waiting for
open stirrup
Pokemon go is just a cookie clicker
shell steeple
Go is a Pokémon game for normies
open stirrup
With nastalgia
shell steeple
And it is not a cookie clicker
worthy pulsar
It's a game to lure non-Pokemon players into Pokemon.
shell steeple
^
worthy pulsar
I almost got run over by a guy driving while he looked for Pokemon...
pine ingot
Idk I'm just very critical of games in general lol especially pokemon because I can envision the perfect game and we'll never get it... at least not to my high standards lol
shell steeple
Can't it sense if you are driving
worthy pulsar
Do we really ask for so much that the current console can't handle it though?
shell steeple
The console can handle it
worthy pulsar
This was a few years back, around when it first came out.
open stirrup
I wouldn't mind a rehash of coliseum, bring back the snag balls
shell steeple
Game freak just doesn't understand how to make a non handheld game
pine ingot
I mean they should have done better with it being the first new pokemon on the switch but they rushed it for christmas sales... jmo
open stirrup
Let's go was so much higher quality
pine ingot
I didn't even look into that one because it was pokemon go related lmao
worthy pulsar
Let's Go would have been better if they expanded on that. It was sorta multiplayer.
shell steeple
That took less work
pine ingot
but it looked nice
open stirrup
The multiplayer was pretty awful
worthy pulsar
I never said it was perfect.
shell steeple
Let's go was gen 1 with better graphics and Pokémon in the over world
open stirrup
I wish it had been like coliseum and forced only double battles instead of the 2v1
worthy pulsar
And simplified mechanics.
My Pokeball plus is going to rot because they don't seem to care about using it again.
pine ingot
I guess I can't really say since I haven't played it but I'd wager Infinite Fusion is a better remake than let's go
worthy pulsar
You haven;t played the game you're in the discord chat for?
pine ingot
but that's coming from someone who prefers these 2d sprites than the 3d models we have now
noo I haven't played Let's Go lol
worthy pulsar
Oh lol, sorry. It's a bit late for me and I'm feeling it, typing errors.
pine ingot
same except I always have typing errors
worthy pulsar
Infinite Fusion has more than gen 1 Pokemon so that automatically makes it more diverse.
pine ingot
yeah.. and fusing pokemon is a much more interesting gimmick than those wacky catching mechanics
worthy pulsar
The fusion idea adds tons of potential to the game in a way that Game Freak never would attempt on a proper scale.
pine ingot
yup. why do that when you can just make em bigger
worthy pulsar
I just feel sorry for the new fossils, never to be complete and stuck as these ugly amalgam creatures.
pine ingot
I can't believe people actually like them lol
worthy pulsar
I only like that they aren't rock types.
pine ingot
but that's their opinion I guess
worthy pulsar
I was so tired of every fossil being a rock.
pine ingot
yeah idk the whole concept just isn't for me
like I get why they did it but it still shouldn't be a thing
I mean I thought the one looked alright for a hot minute but then they broke the news that it's head was on upside down!
worthy pulsar
Wouldn't it be great if they decided to give us a game that was far from what is standard time in Pokemon? Something far in the future or the past.
pine ingot
there's some fangame potention with that I'm sure, I haven't played too many of the newer ones
it would be cool but Idk if the pokemon company folks would do it
actually maybe they would.. I never expected them to do regional variants
worthy pulsar
Yeah that's what I mean, an official one. They do regionals but they could be better about it.
pine ingot
I saw some fakemon fanart once of an Aerodactyl of what it would have looked like before being fossilized for years
open stirrup
I liked dracovish because of how dumb it looked
pine ingot
I think it would be pretty cool if they added some variants to the fossils like that so they could have their original typings instead of all Rock
open stirrup
The others not so much
pine ingot
lol well that's as good a reason as any, I can respect that
that's why I love Quagsire
worthy pulsar
Wasn't Mega Aerodactyl supposed to be more or less the original look for it though?
pine ingot
idk I guess.. Megas are kinda weird for me. I like their designs but I hate how they stopped evolution chains
I wanna assume Aerodactyl would have been originally rock type anyway tho maybe? Like Rock/Dragon possibly
worthy pulsar
It's possible. I think a dex entry for Mega Aerodactyl said it was close to how it had been in ancient times.
pine ingot
ah. I should prolly know more about megas than I do lol
worthy pulsar
Sun Part of its body has become stone. Some scholars claim that this is Aerodactyl's true appearance.
Moon When it Mega Evolves, it becomes more vicious than ever before. Some say that's because its excess of power is causing it pain.
Ultra Sun It will attack anything that moves. Mega Evolution is a burden on its body, so it's incredibly irritated.
Ultra Moon Mega Evolution awakened some dormant genes, bringing back the sharp rocks that once covered Aerodactyl's entire body.
Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee The power of Mega Evolution has completely restored its genes. The rocks on its body are harder than diamond.
I could have snipped out moon and ultra sun I guess.
shell steeple
Mega evolution sounds like torture
pine ingot
that's fine. I actually didn't know megas had dex entries
worthy pulsar
Dex entries tend to reveal dark things in the world of Pokemon.
Like children being brought to the underworld.
In retrospect that's pretty alarming since we almost always play as a ten year old.
open stirrup
Does let's go have megas?
worthy pulsar
Yes.
lone lake
Yes
pine ingot
hope it was alright for me to go on about all my pokemon ideas in the swsh chat lol
worthy pulsar
I did too, but we got back to it after some straying.
pine ingot
Yeah and I've not even played the game 😄 oh well, not like I'm the only one who's been critical of it without doing that
worthy pulsar
My little sister has begged me to get Shield since she has Sword. I refuse, I can't support GF with their choices now.
Hopefully the next games will be better.
pine ingot
Yeah I hope so too, if only so that the franchise doesn't end up failing sooner than later
because if anything I still enjoy seeing the new pokemon designs each gen
worthy pulsar
This decade might be the end of Pokemon. But I know a lot of people don't care as much about the faults and will gladly get the new games.
pine ingot
Ik this is kinda random but
I think it's kinda surprising just how popular pokemon has become
when I was younger, a small group of friends and I would play it a little bit but we didn't wanna let everyone else know that we played it lol because we should have grown out of it by then
but now it's played by people of all ages
idk, I never thought it would turn out like that
worthy pulsar
I think certain things we never truly grow out of.
charred stag
I just finished Shield
I didn't feel accomplished when I won
Probs a mix of me being disengaged and exhausted while playing Leon
And the fact that I just killed every one of Leon's mons with Eternatus (They were all too high level for the rest of my mons except for a gmax butterfree that kind of blew. It seems cheating that they give you the legendary right before the final battle...)
Idk but now I feel sad
worthy pulsar
So another case of the game being too easy?
verbal steppe
if you do max raid battles it sure is
worthy pulsar
Idk, the more I hear about it the more I feel glad I skipped these games.
minor widget
i'll do it and try to skip as many trainers as possible
see if it's hard or not this way
pine ingot
try doing it with no raid battles for exp candies as well maybe?
worthy pulsar
I have to ask, since I haven't played it. Is the music still as good as previous titles?
I guess there's youtube for that answer.
pine ingot
you should, some good music
warped sedge
Can we all agree swsh is bad
worthy pulsar
Not all of us do, but I think it's bad.
plain saffron
hot marsh
I love SwSh
Great games ngl
Solid soundtrack (Sinnoh’s is better though)
The competitive scene feels healthy again
Raids are fun
The online is good
Game looks solid (except some trees)
I enjoy seeing mons in the overworld
The new pokemon are well designed, better than for example gen 5 or 1
hot marsh
His design is better than vanilluxe
coral brook
Hell no
Vanilluxe is at least 2 headed ice cream made outa ice
The the penguin thing is just that
Penguin
"No it has ice cube" man fuck the ice cube
Fuckin ekans is just snake but its much better somehow
hot marsh
I like icecue
minor widget
sword shield is an upscaled 3ds game with eye candy
but yeah the new mons design are cool
like they were in gen 7
USUM competitive meta was really good IMO
and i havent played any gen 8 competitive so i cant tell but i doubt it's that better
game is just underwhelming on so many points
doesnt mean it's bad
minor widget
maybe it's better in breeding
coral brook
Ok maybe that
minor widget
tho you cant breed all mons so that's kinda shit
minor widget
also you dont need to breed for the game anyway
also HGSS was a better game than gen 5
but lets not fight over this
coral brook
Heck no
Only good thing hgss has that gen 5 games dont is pokemon following
But thats just one good mechanic
minor widget
no it's not
coral brook
Ye 2 regions where first one takes like half an hour to beat
minor widget
lol wut
coral brook
Johto part of game is short af
minor widget
38h on average
coral brook
Nah
minor widget
black and white is 32
coral brook
Too much
38 if u dont use fly at all and dont know where df u are going
Actually no
minor widget
also johto best region
coral brook
38 is the whole fuckin game
Thats hilarious
And johto is good
Its nice lookin and shit ill give it that
But i like gen 5s dark aesthetic more
coral brook
Eh
minor widget
both regarding speed and story wise
coral brook
I dont like all the fuckin bactracking u have to do
minor widget
i mean
coral brook
And how u go thru that mountain like 5 times
coral brook
Eh
Its one route of backtracking per say
While in dppt u go from what
4th gym back to starting town
Than to 6th
Than back all the way back to starting
hot marsh
So, Ive never played gen 5, but I like the sprite art more than the models
I prefer gen 4 though
Also never played xy
But swsh isnt e tier
Nor lets go
minor widget
well they're worse than everything else
minor widget
gen 1 was challenging atleast lol
hot marsh
Yeah, grinding for 10 hours is “challenging”
hot marsh
I prefer a game where i dont need to grind and can just progress instead of 15 levels of jumps
minor widget
it's going in with a grinding mentality that is wrong
hot marsh
Honestly, Ive played all kanto games except yellow and I prefer lets go
minor widget
played all too
hot marsh
Lets go has a more interesting post game
minor widget
but let's go is just cute things the game
hot marsh
Like really, gen 1 had no post game
minor widget
true
hot marsh
Also, RBY aged poorly
minor widget
same with ORAS and sw/sh
well oras has secret bases
i guess that's a thing
it's not really postgame but oh well
hot marsh
Bad graphics, stupid coding mistakes gen 1 is a mess
Have you played swsh?
Because I really enioy the post game
hot marsh
There is
hot marsh
Battle tower, raids, dex, shiny hunting, breeding, competitive
minor widget
yeah so it has about the same post game as ORAS
while also having less replayability
hot marsh
Yeah but OrAs also had a solid post game
minor widget
oras has a shit postgame
hot marsh
SwSh has a lot of replayability
minor widget
it has a worse postgame than RSE
hot marsh
I had 400 hours in OrAs, 390 of those were post game
hot marsh
Problem is, most pokemon games have a bad postgame
minor widget
yes you can catch a lot of legendaries
but there is nothing challenging to do after the main game
hot marsh
Like every pokemon game
minor widget
you can breed and stuff but it serves no purpose
nah
other games had the battle towers
minor widget
shinies is just shit grinding
hot marsh
I enjoy shiny hunting
minor widget
nice
hot marsh
Of course everyone has their own opinion
minor widget
also please tell me what the replayability is in swsh
hot marsh
Nuzlockes
minor widget
the game has less variety than any pokemon game before
hot marsh
What variety do other pokemon games have then?
minor widget
more mons
hot marsh
Thats not true
hot marsh
The only game with more obtaibable mons is UsUm
minor widget
yeah and uh transfers
hot marsh
Hard mode you had to unlock
minor widget
heard about that?
minor widget
transfers add replay value you know
minor widget
hard mode adds replayability too
minor widget
isnt swsh 24 hours long on average
minor widget
yeah well it's by far the shortest
hot marsh
Ive played gen 1 three times
minor widget
oh x and y is actually 32h long on average
hot marsh
Really?
hot marsh
Well, all kanto games are shorter
minor widget
because the game is shit
hot marsh
I mean, it took me 10 hours while doing a lot of side crap
minor widget
you get stuck because of obscure progression
hot marsh
Okay fair enough
minor widget
i was stuck for a lot of time because of the fkin bottle thing
hot marsh
Yeah that was stupid
SwSh is pretty long imo
I guess lets go is the shortest
Except I did a crap ton of side stuff
icy canopy
26 hours to beat red and blue..?
Just pick up an abra and level it up to kadabra (Trade if you can to get Alazakam) and you win.
minor widget
yeah psychic type was broken as hell i'll give you that
shell steeple
It was because SpeAtk applied to defense too, so alakazam was super bulky @minor widget
minor widget
yeah and psychic type was broken
shell steeple
They aren't bad guys
Just Marnies fans
Sword and shield's evil team was Rose's company
plain saffron
verbal steppe
hot marsh
Get dunked on
verbal steppe
Does any1 in swsh have a ditto with a max attack iv
thin stag
just Atk?
round moss
My luck has been used up for the next decade...I hatched a shiny sobble after 523 eggs...ok cool but the literal last egg I had left turned out to be shiny as well
analog timber
the shiny bros
tame stream
why does no one know how to fight this thing online?
round moss
I haven’t fought one yet but I even struggled against the npc with it 😂 so I can see it
And I named the two sobbles starburst and bubblegum because I couldn’t think of anything better
light cipher
its better then what i can think all io can think of are water names like river and lake
shell steeple
I named mine PumpedUpKiks
plain saffron
fading robin
Anyone watching the direct cause Holy Shit Yes!!!!
pine ingot
wtf is that
Oh come on
NEW REGIS ALL LEGENDS ENEW BIRDS
Guys we have to make a co-op league
twin night
I just want Gible and Joltik on the same team again
twin night
I have my priorities.
pine ingot
WAIT
There's gonna be liike
Darkquatro
or something
ok pokemon home ik will happen
I want gmxa toxtricity man
what update
fading robin
Same
pine ingot
WHO CARES
twin night
So a little less than the price of a DS game remake.
pine ingot
Better than buying a new 80 CAD game
fading robin
30 bucks for both is a great price man
pine ingot
Where's the update
twin night
It's not actually out yet, this is just them saying that it's going to be a thing.
twin night
Oh, that they did.
pine ingot
Preorder online for australia?
uhh
Anyone else has a switch
When co-op comes out the boys must play
I'm also buying mystery dungeon
Fukn childhood right there
dude
6 legendary birds
6 regis
fading robin
I was hoping for the to say something about mystery dungeon and i cant be happier
fading robin
I saw some megas so maybe
pine ingot
yeah there were megas
But I only saw pokemons up to gen 3
Unless wishcash or whatever the mustache whale is called
is from a later gen
idk
fading robin
I wouldnt be mad if it was only to gen 3
pine ingot
Me too because
After all
New mystery dungeon
but still having gen 8 would be sick
or even dyna/gigantamax
Also did they mention the legendary evolved?
fading robin
The new fighting one yea
pine ingot
Isn't that a first?
fading robin
Nebby
pine ingot
right
Forgot about cosmog
And I thought we're gonna get gigantamax zamazenta and zacian
I mean their gmax is really confusing
Tbh I myself would've preferred gmax zacian/zamazenta over that kubfu guy
twin night
It doesn't look very Legendary. Not that I dislike it.
twin night
Sorta like how the thunder cat didn't look all that legendary.
twin night
Yes. And it fits even less there.
fading robin
Also i saw talonflame and im so happy
twin night
Eee, talonflame
pine ingot
Humans are normal
Demi-gods are Mythic
Gods are legendaries
pine ingot
@fading robin Wedgehurst
galarian forms for ||legendary birds|| ? they look pretty cool from what I saw
as well as some for the ||slowpoke|| line
It's not galar forms
It's new birds
Probs gonn ahave gmax aswell
open stirrup
But they look like the birds
pine ingot
Fairly sure they said new birds
Not just an assumption
well, zapdos was always my favorite and I'm already liking this yellow one the best as well lol
Lol
He looks sick
wasn't sure how I felt about the articuno looking one but then I saw freaking eye lasers
Yee
Look at this
You call this a legendary?
It's the same level as god damn machop
It's the the machamp line without machoke
I mean isn't this just like furry machoke
Oh it's more like the hitmon line
One at the right is hitmonlee left is hitmonchop
Kubfu is tyrogue
well I'm glad those aren't two different pokemon because they look too similar
ye
he has gmax
aswell
They showed these guys before the explanation
Everyone thought they were gonna be Za gmaxs
oh wait they have two different types tho.
yea
they have 2 new moves and 1 new ability
omg the galar starters gmax look so good
except for inteleon
it's like sandaconda with a boner
it being water type is about as weird as Palkia being water type.. idk that's just my first impression
Yeah I like the dark more
That's GMax inteleon
yea I thought the same thing, Inteleon just robbing sandaconda's form
ikr
Rilaboom is my favorite
He gets real drums
As a drummer this speaks to me
speaking of which I have to go to band practice
but not as a drummer I'm also a bassist
I think it's the most creative of the 3 either way
(toxtricity low key is best)
lol ok this Calyrex thing might really take some getting used to for me.. it looks so odd
thin stag
did they patch the den exploit?
dark vessel
The articuno is wild!
light cipher
Wow this is pretty cool
I wanna know how the two new Regis will add to the lore
Regidragon and regilighting lol
open stirrup
The dragon arms are cool
light cipher
The charizard skull looks like it could be either the gmax form or mega
And inteleon is a true sniper now and it makes me 1000x happier
tacit elm
👍
light cipher
Ow that thumbs up hurts lol
tacit elm
Why, I was agreeing with you
light cipher
Cause of sarcasm
tacit elm
No, no sarcasm
light cipher
Or not sarcasm but like ppl bot caring my bad
tacit elm
Intelleon is legit my favorite of the galar starters, with Cinderace a distant second, and their gmax designs only further cemented that ranking
light cipher
I'm hoping the story for the galarrian bird trio is good I want to know why they are galarian
tacit elm
Moltresalike looks dark or ghost
light cipher
Electric fighting
tacit elm
Articunolike looks ghost or psychic
pine ingot
freaking laser beam eyes
light cipher
Psychic is not ghost
pine ingot
I think prolly psychic
tacit elm
Leaning a bit more that way yeah, but could see either
light cipher
Zapdos and moltres look the best
pine ingot
Articuno kinda looks like it wants to join Team Flare with them shades
light cipher
I was going to say its frozone in pokemon
tacit elm
WHERE IS MY SUPER SUIT
pine ingot
Honestly didn't think we'd ever get more regis
fading robin
@pine ingot just watched the mystery dungeon trailer again and lucario is in it hes gen 4 so there are more then just the first 3 gens
fading robin
It is possible they will only add pokemon that can mega evolve thou
dull night
Man, all of these new mons look like something a deviantart artist would make, that dark regi especially
pine ingot
yea I'm not too keen on the red and black regi or that weird long dainty legs deer with fairy wings
dull night
Its funny because Red/Black is my favorite color combination
and regis are my favorite legendary trio, but THAT JUST DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT
pine ingot
it looks like it's still sort of in a concept art phase but then Idk why they'd show it off already
gloomy vector
not gonna lie they have a point
charred shale
light cipher
Any one know what the third legendary is based off of?
Also regidragon / regidraco
And regielectric / regielctro
strange zenith
worthy pulsar
So I thought we weren't getting all the Pokemon because of technical limitations.
charred shale
well this brings the number of mons to around 600
all they gotta do now is add more dlc next year to have all 800 something
convinient huh
worthy pulsar
Yeah, after seeing the Direct today and all this, I'm pretty happy I skipped these games. If this is how they're handling things now, I won't play main series Pokemon.
charred shale
eh i prefer this to having a third ver but also this should either be free dlc or be on the main game from the get go
this is a dlc being announced merely 2 months after the game's release so its pretty clear that if they wanted to have it be on the games already they could
worthy pulsar
Oh they made it pretty clear that this was not like the older third versions. I'm convinced they'll still make one.
Or at the very least something akin to definitive editions later on.
charred shale
hm
best thing to work with would be a sequel imo
the game has a good worldbuilding to support one
ig if i were to be positive i like most of the new designs
the birds look great and the regis do too
kung fu panda is ok, nothing too amazing
slowpoke is lazy as fuck
brain tumor deer is bad tho
worthy pulsar
Oh yeah, I'm excited for those whether they're regionals or new mons entirely.
Discount Pangoro I can do without, and that fairy deer flower.
charred shale
i like that its named urshifu
the kung fu panda mon is named urshifu
wrong character smh
worthy pulsar
Yeah I get what you mean.
charred shale
the prevo is cute at least
i hope slowbro and slowking look good
cause slowpoke is kind of a let down
worthy pulsar
I'll agree to that, but as a whole it being a legendary is somewhat disappointing. Slowpoke is looking to be a Fire type.
charred shale
i think its out on the game already, been told pure psychic
worthy pulsar
I could be wrong, based on that glimpse of an attack in the direct.
charred shale
that was acid
worthy pulsar
Fair enough.
I'm going to be pretty busy with all the new games coming, PMD and Animal Crossing in the same month.
charred shale
worthy pulsar
If it doesn't have Levitate I'll be disappointed.
cunning parrot
The new stuff they’re adding looks neat, but I still don’t like it enough to buy the game
Also, were the Pokémon they’re adding into the game the ones that were already coded into the game but were not available
worthy pulsar
So what was the point of trying to balance the competitive meta if those mons are coming back anyway?
Landorus.
pine ingot
I'm not someone who just dislikes new pokemon designs but uh, Calyrex is pretty bad imo
worthy pulsar
A lot of us think so too.
pine ingot
I'll probably learn to love it somehow tho 😅
worthy pulsar
Being told we couldn't have the whole dex because of technical limits, only for a good chunk of that to get crammed into paid dlc this soon... It's a hard pass for me.
pine ingot
I feel the same way. I could prolly complain a lot about it actually but I'm just gonna be happy about the things I do like
like that Zapdos
worthy pulsar
Don't get me wrong, I want to enjoy all this stuff, but it's painful how they're handling things. Technical limits then shoving more of the old mons back in, with two other big open areas and an underground co-op area in the tundra one. What technical limits were there, really?
pine ingot
I don't believe for a second that there were any, it's just a good way for them to make more money
worthy pulsar
And that is why I'm not getting the games, no matter how amazing the birds or the new Regis look.
pine ingot
I think I'm just used to expecting more from pokemon than we'll ever get that it doesn't bother me anymore.. for a lot of people this is the first time they've been this disappointed
bright hemlock
I'm a simple man, I see Gmax Intelleon, I still dont get the game since I'm broke
worthy pulsar
If people are actually this disappointed they should show it with their wallets, not paying for the disappointment anyway.
Then they have the gall to claim they made more per dollar sales of the release month than any other. Well of course when they games are nearly twice as much as they used to be, that's not a fair comparison.
pine ingot
When did they start making them twice the price, this gen?
pine ingot
+30 with dlc
light cipher
i thought the dlc was said to be free
pine ingot
Is it? I thought the pass was priced
worthy pulsar
The handheld games had slowly gone up from 30 to 35 and then 40, but console games are 60. Of course they're making more per game because each game costs more now. Plus another 30 for the dlc per game, so if you have both that's another 60.
shell steeple
New direct was crazy
tacit elm
Hah
pine ingot
eye lazers are best lazers except for ___ lazers
charred shale
articuno coming to tell his gen 1 self to shut up bc he's old
cunning parrot
Well, it’s not like they could do much with Moltres’s design being just generic orange bird with fire
charred shale
They gave him the team yell colour scheme
cunning parrot
You just made him terrible
charred shale
My bet for the new regis
80 / 50 / 100 / 200 / 100 / 50 and 80 / 200 / 100 / 50 / 100 / 50
short hazel
charred shale
light cipher
Who's ready to have there completed pokedex to be ruined by the dlcs
worthy pulsar
In every set of games from this point on.
shell steeple
It's unfair that the starters gigantamax forms are locked behind dlc
It's like if they locked the Kanto starters megas in emerald
I mean z
light cipher
Theres a new way to hunt for shint dens
indigo moat
Can’t do that way anymore
cunning parrot
The new Articuno looks like ghost Oricorio
light cipher
was the bot shut down?
light cipher
false lmao
the vs exploit is the one that gets you in trouble
if you date skip/frame skip your fine
or if you hack pokemon you can get in trouble using them online battles
indigo moat
Youtuber got ban for it
shell steeple
Because they made a video of them doing it
indigo moat
Not really they got ban doing the time change date change thing
shell steeple
Oh
indigo moat
They can’t get online anymore only local
That why I don’t do that stuff do it normal way
charred shale
thin stag
lol what?
gilded grove
igns fuckin stupid
tacit elm
🤦
potent basin
Does anyone have a non English ditto for trade, dm me if so.
cunning parrot
Is there any confirmation what types the legendary‘s new forms are going to be
north aspen
Sure, a Cubone and not a dragon type Regi ...
tacit elm
Is there any confirmation what types the legendary‘s new forms are going to be
Only the new fighting type bear thing got confirmed typing so far. Everything else is still hush hush. Might get more leaked or dug up in a few days.
bright hemlock
Isnt the Berry Stantler with Kirlias dress Grass Pychic?
pine ingot
yea Psychic/Grass
worthy pulsar
It's a bootleg Celebi.
The official site has info on their types, those three new ones.
light cipher
the bootleg celebi is based off of a winotiger
dosent look like it but thats the closet thing it looks like
open stirrup
Tony needs to go to AA
fierce breach
the legendary birb typings will most likely be:
articuno: ice/psychic or ice/fairy
zapdos: electric/fighting or electric/ground or electric/dark
moltres: fire/dark or fire/ghost or fire/dragon
pine ingot
I just hope they aren't flying type
fierce breach
same
zapdos 100% wont be tho
unless it gets dodrio syndrome but i doubt it
since farfetchd and sirfetchd didnt get flying type
pine ingot
I was thinking Zapdos would be dark at first but I guess it makes more sense for them to be a Psychic/Dark/Fighting trio
fierce breach
yeah
and the regis are obviously electric and dragon type
although the dragon one could also possibly be dark type
pine ingot
regi-dragon looks weird to me.. I thought it was dark at first as well
fierce breach
or possibly even dual types
electric/flying dark/dragon
but i doubt that will happen
pine ingot
yea I doubt they'd do that but I guess I wouldn't put anything past them
pine ingot
I like the electric one, I wonder what they'll name them
I thought Regizap but Regishock sounds alright too
light cipher
if they stay with just putting the regi infrot of the typing its regidragon and regieletric
pine ingot
ah you're right, I'm surprised I forgot that
shell steeple
Regilectric would sound better
light cipher
It would be gf isnt like that lol
cunning parrot
regice is pronounced regi-ice
light cipher
its either tbh
but reg ice just doesnt sound right becuase the other regis have the full regi in its name
pine ingot
I always said Regi-Ice but who really knows how it's supposed to be pronounced
cunning parrot
I know pokedex 3d and the anime say regi ice
astral onyx
shell steeple
Saying regi-electric will suck
cunning parrot
It may be regi lectric because that's still indicative of electric
shell steeple
That's how I started this whole convo
cunning parrot
as long as it sounds like reggie, it'll be fine, but reg-ice doesn't sound like reggie, it sounds like rej then ice
pine ingot
imagine if they'd named regigigas Reginormal
wind dew
Reggaelectric
cunning parrot
regiregiregi
sonic needle
vale pebble
I though that with the pokemon company now supporting the dubs for the anime directly the names are more accurate. Meaning that isn't it now suppose yo be Reg-Ice?
Not at all a problem, but was just curious.
jagged oriole
...pronouncing it Regi-ice is just factually wrong. like where do you get a second "i" sound from when you look at Regice?
cunning parrot
jagged oriole
Funny enough though, there is no proof yet that Lando-T (the actually good form) is in. Like yeah it wouldn't make sense for it to be excluded but there is still a chance
cunning parrot
Isn’t the genie form better, but it’s an Uber?
jagged oriole
I meant better because it is actually usable in competitive play
hot marsh
how the frick is lando ubers
woeful wharf
jagged oriole
Cinderace is so short. is it legit the shortest fully evolved starter there is?
charred shale
infernape is shorter
jagged oriole
Really? didn't realize Infer was also a short boi
oh.... Infer is only 3'11"... wow
thin stag
why is Appletun so small?
jagged oriole
cuz he is just a fat Applin
thin stag
I never knew that Appletun was only 0.4m tall
I thought it would be at least as tall as the player character
jagged oriole
yeah I definitely thought it was much bigger at first.
jagged oriole
Puppy sized dragon is best dragon
thin stag
unlike some cool mons that would be too large to keep as an irl pet
Appletun would be perfect
charred shale
Almost done doing the rest of the dex
azure dune
appletun is a good chubby puppy
charred shale
Only need to do npw the legendaries and the galar forms
Why are orbeetle, dottler and blipbug all the same size
jagged oriole
only thing the grows is its brain. it take nutrients from body to get big. so they equal out
jagged oriole
yeah Eternatus is literally the new biggest mon
now compare its size when it is Eternamax
charred shale
doesn't have an artwork yet
thin stag
Sizzlipede should be smaller since they use the length of long mons instead of their height
jagged oriole
yee. Sizzilipede is essentially a strip of bacon