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[sturdy sparrow]

Turbo but he wished to be taller?

[brisk hedge]

It’s a Snick. Can’t you read?

[uncut nacelle]

snail + stick = snick

[tired vortex]

Wuh

What game is that what the hell lmao

Snick

Oh I see the title now

[sturdy sparrow]

Pokemon champions team building
Infernape heracross and mudsdale what else is recommended?

[sweet crypt]

Yo Tera Blast just got banned in Gen 9 OU?

[sweet crypt]

Alright chat, make your bets

[sand lion]

where's the ou option

where's uubl actually

[tropic halo]

UU because all cool toys aren’t allowed to drop lower

[cloud lark]

Wonder how far the ripple effect of Tera Blast going bye-bye will go

[simple quartz]

https://bsky.app/profile/advosart.bsky.social/post/3mivbvtulgc2o

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[winged lotus]

What does any of this mean

[tropic halo]

Format names for showdown
UU - Underused
RU - Rarely Used
NU - Never Used
PU - not an acronym
ZU - Zero Use
BL - Borderline/ban list

[winged lotus]

Ah

[sweet crypt]

Serperior found dead in a dark alleyway

[sweet crypt]

There is no way Regieleki is ending the generation anywhere above UU

[west gale]

A new distribution has begun. If you complete your Lumiose, Hyperspace and Mega Pokédex in Pokemon HOME, you will get given the gift of a Shiny Volcanion; the first time it has ever been released

[cloud lark]

That color scheme with that texture makes shiny Volcanion look like some pool floatie. I don't think it's worth the effort.
Cool for the shiny hunters though ig

[coarse viper]

Why would anyone willingly replace the sick and amazing Badass iron-man color scheme...with that

I guess to have the mon to begin with but like..still

[cloud lark]

The pink on the claws make it look like it paints its nails

[smoky gyro]

Gold shinies are always better

Proof me wrong

[coarse viper]

Look above you for the proof

[twin storm]

Playing pokemon champions made a guy forfiet by one shotting their absol

the lucario i got at the start of the game is hella op

[smoky gyro]

The one time illusion is the goat

[smoky gyro]

It looks good you just have poor tastes :3

[coarse viper]

Aha

[queen pecan]

hate when i forget zoroark is on the team and fake out it

[jagged tendon]

What're some of the best pokemon fangames if I like Infinite Fusion? My other favorites were Pokerogue, Insurgence, and Clover, i like some amount of fakemon mixed with real mons (which all mentioned games have a perfect balance of)

[smoky gyro]

Pokemon Vega

[dry burrow]

i'm the only person in the world to like unfezant

[thorny anchor]

who is slandering shiny volcanion? it looks great

[thorny anchor]

I wouldn't hate unfezant so much if he didn't take braviary's spot 😭

[smoky gyro]

I dont hate it

[buoyant sonnet]

Replaying violet (hence the Tera types) and after a lot of thought, I put together what I think would be my team if I were a ghost gym leader (my fav type) but with updated mons, (mega absol z)

Thoughts?

I’d probably lead with Palosand for hazards and no specific mon would use its Tera, it’d be entirely dependant on each battle and the situation, not just “the final Pokémon Tera’s” like the violet story

[brisk hedge]

If you’re a ghost type gym leader, then your Pokémon should terastalize into the ghost type

[coarse viper]

The fact that you can have a stellar type shedinja in this its pretty funny xD

Imma make it ghost cuz Ghost Gym leader but its funny you can just do that

[buoyant sonnet]

Should, in a game. But i was thinking in a realistic situation where a gym leader is there to be as difficulty a challenge as they can by applying actual logic to the team

[brisk hedge]

You still have to abide by your type specialty. And that means terastalizing into the ghost type

[coarse viper]

I mean realistically the fact that they dont use tera to cover their weaknesses its baffling to me

[buoyant sonnet]

[buoyant sonnet]

And if they don’t Tera, guess what type they are?

[brisk hedge]

But if they do Tera, guess what type they aren’t

The one they’re supposed to be

[buoyant sonnet]

Yeah, a temporary state to cover weakness
And only 1 mon can do it across an entire team per battle and it only lasts 4-5 turns iirc

Oh no

[nimble coral]

what game is this?

[coarse viper]

Not to mention thats just the reverse of what gyms in Paldea do,
They get a mon that is not of their type then they tera in to that type

[coarse viper]

Pokemon Quetzal

Emerald rom hack

[nimble coral]

oh cool

[coarse viper]

Has mons from all of the gens and you can increase shiny odds to either high or only shiny (I have it on high cuz Golurk Shiny is peak)

[smoky gyro]

Tf is this game

Oh nvm

The latter messages didnt load

[coarse estuary]

what do we think of my white team so far. we got dewott, yamask, lilligant, and sawk. i know i wanna have a durrant on my final team but idk what to fill out the next slot with. if anyone has any mon suggestions that dont give me type overlaps id love to hear it

[supple basalt]

First time finding out Mega Scovillain existed lol. Had to do shenanigans on a few reloads to beat it cause it caught me off guard.

It looks sick

I mean she isn't wrong. This is Nemona we're talking about

[brisk hedge]

Excadrill could be fun to use

[cloud lark]

Galvantula is always fun

[lyric basin]

i finally caught a Snick. Thinking of giving him a nickname but idk, "Snick" is just way too much fun to say

[brisk hedge]

That overlaps with Durant

[sweet crypt]

So does Excadrill, but you recommended it anyways

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-seriously-wow-omg-gif-3046552972864491436

[coarse viper]

Does it have Mega Scovilain ability that guarantees a burn?

[supple basalt]

I know for a 100% fact it had Chlorophyll tbh because it outsped my overlevelled Dusk Lycanroc. I haven't mega evolved one myself but there's no other way on this planet that my Dusk Lycanroc was outsped by that stupid thing without Chlorophyll

[hollow fulcrum]

what fangame is this?

[supple basalt]

Pokemon Quetzal. It's a ROMHack

[hollow fulcrum]

thank yooouuu

[supple basalt]

Np <3

You can choose from a large selection of characters Kanto all the way to Paldea XD

[coarse viper]

I have this for Emergeny cases so I am not worried myself much xD

But if he doesn't burn on contact thats great news xD

[granite cloud]

sandstorm

or any sort of hazard

[coarse viper]

Yep which i didnt encounter in the game yet

[supple basalt]

Yeah I accelerocked and didn't have any burn lol. Flannery's Torkoal does have drought tho

And Stealth Rock

[coarse viper]

Tho to be fair i didnt feel the need to tera, Stellar type yet just to progress...through Wattson was annoying with his Mega Raichu surf

...2 of my ghosts types are ground types

[supple basalt]

I actually dynamaxed for the first time against Flannery tbh

[coarse viper]

Well thats reassuring

[supple basalt]

So I could max geyser the sun away

XD

[coarse viper]

To be fair you are also playing on hard

xD

[supple basalt]

True. I had actually put the difficulty to autoadjust based on my battle skill and suddenly everything was difficult to kill

...I apparantly am too good at pokemon

I turned that off lmao

[coarse viper]

Yeah looked in to it, the difficulties add more hp perfect I'vs and ev,s etc etc

[supple basalt]

Valid

I think I'll turn the autoadjust back on tho (and level caps. I also turned those off)

[coarse viper]

I play with level caps but on normal

[supple basalt]

I had them on normal but ended up flipping them off

[coarse viper]

Because i will rather die than IV/EV grind

[coarse estuary]

seems you didnt see any of the za dlc

[supple basalt]

Well I don't own ZA nor really watch gameplay so

[supple basalt]

It's actually wild how overlevelled I am tbh

[coarse viper]

Pff-

Me and my ghost gang

[supple basalt]

Squad of misfits

[neat acorn]

Can anyone join my union circle to help me evolve my finizen?

[supple basalt]

Okay I got it. Very Hard makes all NPCs match your level

[hollow fulcrum]

wait what fangame is that that allow you to make your pokemon follow you?!

[supple basalt]

Same one, Pokemon Quetzal

[coarse viper]

Same one as Vix, Pokemon Quetzal

[neat acorn]

Anyone?

Pleaseeee

[hollow fulcrum]

god i need to play it...is it playable on mobile?

[supple basalt]

Yep, it's a ROMHack of pokemon Emerald I think so any basic GBA emulator can run it

[neat acorn]

Not sure why we’re ignoring🌚 cool Rom Hack tho might try it out!

[supple basalt]

Not ignoring just don't have the means to online

[neat acorn]

Well I appreciate the response!!

[thorny anchor]

I can't make a reasonable Mega Blaziken set for champions that doesn't get walled by max HP Dragonite

for the life of me

😭

Even a +2 ice punch needs 2 hits bc of multyscale

[hollow fulcrum]

so would joiplay work?

[sweet crypt]

Tera Stellar doesn't overwrite your defensive type

You can still use Shed and just eliminate all Pokemon that can hit it though

[coarse viper]

Eh i didn't feel the need to tera it so far anyway

[thorny anchor]

I'm going for my second run in quetzal, is aaron or torchic harder to get after picking my starter?

[coarse estuary]

thats type overlap

[harsh drift]

Joiplay isn't a emulator so no

[hollow fulcrum]

ah, well what kind of good emulator there is on mobile?

[sweet crypt]

I'm thinking maybe an Electric type like Zebstrika or Eelektross since the team has 2 Flying-Weak Pokemon with 0 Flying resists

[supple basalt]

Sorry had to go drop my bank on picking up my medicine

I think Android has a few emulator options but I don't know if we can provide resources to them

[harsh drift]

Yeah I don't think I can answer that

[hollow fulcrum]

ah, how come?

[supple basalt]

?tag rule6

[ebon pond]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 6 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Resources to illegal content (ROMs, pirated movies, etc). We are sure that there are ways and means of finding these that do not involve a Pokémon Fan Game discord server.

[supple basalt]

I think emulators fall under this

[harsh drift]

Probably

[supple basalt]

Idk I'd have to ask but better to be safe than sorry

XD

[hollow fulcrum]

ah...and is theres a way to ask a mod?

[nimble coral]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-costume-pirate-LUIvcbR6yytz2

yarghh Pirate

[sweet crypt]

Or a Rock type actually, like an Archeops or something

[supple basalt]

You can just google it

"GBA Emulator for Android"

Boom.

XD

[hollow fulcrum]

i....could but i though theres one in google play store

[supple basalt]

Ask google what the gba emulators are in play store then

(Ngl I actually don't know them and am too lazy to ask Google)

[hollow fulcrum]

ill try to figure something out

[supple basalt]

I know iPhone has Delta lol

[coarse viper]

I use the GoGba

[supple basalt]

Blue Absol :>

[coarse viper]

Outside of like the translator from english is a few bucks (which i didn't spend btw) the emulator has no ads or stupid stuff like that

[supple basalt]

I just realized Mega Absol Z only has 4 more attack than Mega Absol

It's just faster

Does it actually get Technician?

Like in ZA

[sweet crypt]

ZA has no Abilities

And Absol Z isn't in Champions yet

So we don't know its ability rn

With how the Claw moves were changed to be boosted by Sharpness in Champions, I think they're setting up Absol Z to get Sharpness

Since otherwise Absol Z doesn't really have good high-damage Ghost STAB

[supple basalt]

Valid lol. Game probably just assigned them random abilities then

Cause Lucario Z has Mind's Eye and idk if that's accurate

Lol

[sweet crypt]

Technician is a pretty common fan-ability for Absol Z

[supple basalt]

Ahh

[sweet crypt]

Wait

Is this just ZAOU Abilities?

I know for a fact Absol Z got Sharpness there

And Lucario Z got Mind's Eye

Does Raichu X have Levitate?

[supple basalt]

No clue where this game's referencing abilities from

Idk I don't have a raichu. P sure I can get one then I know where Pichu is

[sweet crypt]

If it has Levitate, I can confirm it uses the Abilities that the Smogon pet mod ZA OU gave them

[supple basalt]

Ignore the blueness I'm using special kinds of shinies XD

But no it has Galvanize

Y gets Electric Surge

[coarse estuary]

i am so baffled. how can so many people try to rationalize breaking the if a mon faints its considered dead rule of a nuzlocke and then not think its cheating

[cloud lark]

Considering the amount of people who come onto this server and ask how to add infinite rare candies, I think it's safe to say integrity isn't a big thing that some people consider

[mild dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1488193333993144401/1498466879558123580/image0.jpg?ex=69f14388&is=69eff208&hm=51ca0ac9cbfff9103914c2a8eacde59fe7ede0d2bc649c28a41eac6fd9cf48a4&

Watchog with the highest winrate in a 10k tournament

Also was the last pokemon to lose the “undefeated” title in the tournament

[thorny anchor]

1 person went crazy with watchog

[mild dirge]

The person also has the Watchog professor badge which I think requires you to win like 100 games using Watchog in champions

I think this might be Watchog number 1 fan

[coarse estuary]

infinite rare candies in a nuzlocke isnt cheating though.

[brisk hedge]

It literally is though

Unless you’re playing a rom hack or fan game that gives you infinite candies

[thorny anchor]

it's allowed in a nuzlocke

you using your brain to add in rare candies so you don't have to grind has nothing to do with integrity even if the game doesn't have an option to

[brisk hedge]

In that case, why don't you use your brain to hack in a team of level 100 legendaries at the start

Or even better, why not use your brain to hack into the hall of fame room immidiatly and win the nuzlocke in 5 seconds

[coarse estuary]

it isnt though. the point of hacking in rare candies is so you dont have to waste hours grinding risklessly on route one to get a pokemon from level 5 to say 45 and plus its only cheating if you use the infinite candies to get your mons to 100 before the first gym

[mild dirge]

There’s no concept of cheating in nuzlocke anyway play how you want to play it’s a single player game that you decide to self impose rules on.

If they aren’t claiming they beat a nuzlocke without any optional clauses like one free revive or something who cares

Though even if they do who cares

[thorny anchor]

maybe you should just use your brain in general

I'm ngl

[coarse estuary]

it ruins the integrity of the challenge. imo its like if a sport like basketball or something just let people do whatever they want in the mindset of oh the rules are just words.

[tropic hinge]

As far as I was aware, the level cap and death thing were basically the core of the nuzlocke experience.

[mild dirge]

Actually level caps are an optional challenge and were never apart of the core “ruleset”

[supple basalt]

As far as nuzlockes go technically breaking the three core rules counts as cheating

[mild dirge]

It’s just that everyone uses them because leveling to level 100 to sweep the game isn’t much of a challenge

[supple basalt]

And it's true they are self imposed rules to begin with

But still

[mild dirge]

I respect that but I disagree in my opinion it’s fine to “cheat” a little bit as long as you’re following the ruleset you imposed on yourself at the start of the run

If you were to say “i can revive one pokemon by sacrificing X amount of encounters” or “I get unlimited rare candies” I’d say those are about the same level of integrity if you defined that at the start, but if you were to just revive your whole party and go “it doesn’t count” half way into the run then yeah I’d agree that’s “cheating”

[supple basalt]

Following Level Caps is part of hardcore nuzlocke rules alongside no heals in battle

[mild dirge]

But even then it’s a single player game the only one you’re cheating is yourself

[tropic hinge]

Huh, the more you know.

[supple basalt]

Goes to show hardcore nuzlocke rules have become the standard XD

Fuck that though. I'll do base locke rules

[coarse estuary]

yeah i guess thats a fair way to do it. since personally ill never do things like reload a fight if i missclicked or revive a mon if it was killed while grinding or whatever and i find that cheating personally. as long as people stick ot the rules they start with and dont add any later to make the unfortunate things that happend in their run null they can use whatever rules they want/ assuming they arent using a pre made set of rules for a community challenge

[coarse estuary]

yeah i miss the days where people would just do casual rules runs in lp format instead of what we have now of the entire video being the whole locke

[tropic hinge]

I genuinely did think hardcore was base nuzlocke. Knowing otherwise is actually quite informative.

[coarse estuary]

yeah the only 2 rules for a base nuzlocke are you must catch the first mon you encounter on a route and fainted mons are dead. most people also add nicknaming into that but its not required.

[mild dirge]

The fun of nuzlockes is the variety of challenges you can add to the base ruleset

[coarse estuary]

yeah there are so many clauses you can add or different types of nuzlockes you can do. they are so customizable.

[mild dirge]

The last nuzlocke I did was
Standard rules, nicknames, level caps, fight every trainer, team size cap and no pokemon above 535 BST

Team size cap is basically I can only use as many pokemon as the next gym leader like two for Brock three for surge four for koga etc

[coarse estuary]

ooh neat. my 3 favorite nuzlocke types are wedlockes, genlockes and lineagelockes

[mild dirge]

I’ve only ever heard of genlocke what is lineagelocke

[coarse estuary]

a lineagelocke is a wedlocke mixed with a genlocke

[mild dirge]

Ohh

I’ll look it up

[supple basalt]

Same.

[tight granite]

what a strange ad

[tired vortex]

Finally finished x/y (and yes I forced my mons to be shiny it's fun)

Iean I beat the game before but I finished this replay

[smoky gyro]

Does strength sap work worse if their iv is 0

Like is it essentially foul play

[sweet crypt]

It works directly off the opponent's Attack stat including EVs, IVs and stat changes

[worthy pagoda]

I DID IT!!!!! (beat cynthia first try btw 😼)

[supple basalt]

Reminds me I need to finish shadows of Almia

By finish I mean start over lmao

[smoky gyro]

Is showdown broken for anyone else

[sweet crypt]

Having issues with it too, it'll be fixed though I imagine

It's not the first time Showdown's servers have went down

And it won't be the last

[smoky gyro]

I have paranoia lmao my pc is too shit

[winged lotus]

What pokeballs are those? I don’t recognize them

[supple basalt]

Cherish Ball. Generally they're on event Pokémon but through the power of action replay codes, randomizer or editing programs you can get them as normal pokeballs

[winged lotus]

Ah

Thanks for telling me!

[harsh drift]

I caught dialga with a quick ball in renegade platinum

This is weirdly funny to me

Captured the god of time with a mere quick ball

[stiff rampart]

Legend

[coarse viper]

You could say Dialga made it quick

[harsh drift]

I don't think I will say that

All the legendaries/mythicals I've caught so far in renegade platinum

The hardest one to catch was ho-oh because it kept using brave bird when it was on low hp

So I just used the master ball on it

[coarse viper]

Dang Mega Frostlass is huge

[harsh drift]

Why is shedninja blue

[coarse viper]

Radiant version..basically shiny extra,

Its the Romhack thing

[harsh drift]

I would've made him purple

[smoky gyro]

Not shiny, L

[coarse viper]

internal screaming Flannery was rough

[coarse viper]

Okay wow Norman was way easier

[smoky gyro]

Oh nice showdown is back up

[simple quartz]

Is this Elite Redux

[coarse viper]

No

Pokemon Quetzal

[simple quartz]

Oh fun

What's the big gimmick on that one

[coarse viper]

Mons from Gen 1-9
New type of shinies called Radiant versions
Mega,Dynamax
Z moves and Tera are there aaand..thats all I can tell so far

Probably some other stuff in the postgame

[graceful mirage]

Just got a shalpha skarmory

[queen pecan]

big claws

[thorny anchor]

Dynamax too

[coarse viper]

Right sorry i always forget thats a thing since I only use tera and mega xD

[queen pecan]

wonder when those turn up in champions

[supple basalt]

There are also radiant shinies

So Shiny, Radiant, Radiant+Shiny

[coarse viper]

Huh..neat

[queen pecan]

shiny shinys when

[sleek zephyr]

Press F to pay respects to the birdie who carried a lot.
My greed will cost me 3 members of my team out of 5. And there's a Team Star grunt just after that! What do you expect with just a Mightyena and a Pichu? 🪦

Shiny Zigzagoon/Linoone btw

[supple basalt]

Why does this keep happening lol

I have two now

[coarse viper]

Someone loves you up there xD

[supple basalt]

At least I know I'll be able to use one of these since I can catch eternatus. Free candies?

[normal cedar]

any news when there adding poochayna and migthyana

[supple basalt]

When hoenn releases

[normal cedar]

ik that any news when tho

[supple basalt]

No

[normal cedar]

rip

[supple basalt]

Still ironing out bugs

[normal cedar]

fair could u do me 1 tiny favor

[supple basalt]

Depends

[normal cedar]

XD when it gets released could ping me plz

[supple basalt]

No because there will be a server wide ping in #announcements

Get the update ping roles from #roles

[normal cedar]

i have discord muted cause the amout thigns go off in disocrds is annoying i am in 8 discords

[supple basalt]

Btw the full game probably won't be till next year, we'll be getting the demo probably soon-ish

[normal cedar]

demo lol

[supple basalt]

Look at that you can suppress everyone and here and role mentions will override if you have nothing clicked

[normal cedar]

k

[supple basalt]

Pretty much every server I'm in is either muted or I only have mentions on

Though my phone I actually have my phone notifs set to only show banners for discord

No sound XD

[normal cedar]

yer same but yet i get notfications form 1 dicord spamming @me annyoign

[supple basalt]

Oof

[normal cedar]

yep

[supple basalt]

Yeah this one shouldn't @ spam you and even with nothing selected, deselecting suppress all role @mentions will override the nothing

[normal cedar]

fair

[supple basalt]

I also am the last person to ask for release ping as I would not remember

[normal cedar]

LOL urr like me forget stuff dw it happens XD

[sweet crypt]

Remember: 30% is the same chance as a Scald Burn

If it can kill the run, it will kill the run

Never greed

Do y'all ever wonder why Wimpod looks more like a trilobite than an isopod

Or is that just me

[tight granite]

i mean its a pokemon

so

i expect them to be multiple inspirations

[mild dirge]

https://fixupx.com/NintendoAmerica/status/2049171787234103325

Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica)

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FixupX · Apr 28, 2026, 5:00 PM

Nintendo of America boxed their starter I can’t believe it

[thorny anchor]

valid

the teams is buns tho

[tight granite]

appearntly they know

[ornate badger]

Anyone wanna test a earl phase pokemon fan game

[frank lily]

I'm trying to complete my SwSh dex for Home and I need the following Pokemon:
Spectrier
Terrakion
Regieleki

I wanna shiny hunt the Regi Golems so I don't want to catch them in my save file yet. If needed, I will trade these back to you after I send them to Home and back to Sword

[tired vortex]

Working on oras and I'm so happy that there's so many gen 3 megas because I can have a full team that can mega evolve

[junior phoenix]

I sorta hit a platue in Pokemon infinite fusion. I was hoping someone can introduce me to a pokemon game so I can come back to Pokemon IF to once I am over my slump/

[supple basalt]

First time I've gotten this at an early level lol

[cloud lark]

Anyone got any good suggestions to fill out the starter trio I'm trying to theorycraft? The theme is supposed to be animals impacted by humanity, and so far I thought of a Water starter based on the Newfoundland to represent domesticated species. I would like to include one that's invasive and another that's endangered to round out the theme.

[coarse viper]

Shiny Rowlet is so adorbs

[coarse viper]

Winona is down

Who would have thought..once you gain access to forms yourself the game becomes easier

Damn Mega Golurk is huge

[lusty iris]

Historically in the US fires were put out too frequently which caused a buildup of burn materials

which is why fires are so bad now

I’d suggest the grass type being invasive

[dreamy veldt]

family of 4

[broken temple]

why is rowlet in the void

😰

[coarse viper]

Dont worry she got better

[lyric basin]

Playing Soulstones rn, this is the first gym team..

One of three possible teams actually, so you never know what you're getting :')

[cloud lark]

From the void to a Pokeball... has it ever been elaborated on what it's like inside a Pokeball for the Pokémon? Cause that was always something I was curious about

[tight granite]

a few times but its not like any version of it is more canon then another

the Quaxly one is a Luxury Ball while the first 2 images are regular Pokeballs

Legend Arceus also went with this as Pokeballs themselves have no actual capture tech, it just takes advantage of an Abbility all Pokemon possess and that is to shrink themselves (no idea why they dont ever do it naturally)

[ripe python]

anyone have a sandshrew, oddish, mankey, growlithe, grimer and scyther from Lets Go Pikachu that they can trade, i only need these pokemon and their evos left to complete the home dex for the Lets Go games

[tight granite]

cant you catch them in those games

[broken temple]

some of these are version exclusives i believe

[ripe python]

i dont have lets go pikachu

[broken temple]

i would help
but i dont own a switch
or the game

[ripe python]

thanks anyways

[sturdy sparrow]

Ig my internet conspiracy starts up again used 90 acc moves 4 missed at the worst times for me

[brisk hedge]

“If it’s not 100% accurate, it’s 50% accurate” John Michael Wingull Groth

[sturdy sparrow]

Yep and ofc the opp hit me with a focus blast and just a few minutes ago thunder not in the rain

[supple basalt]

Which one started that, Mikey or PM7?

I know it was one of those in the John Michael cup XD

[sturdy sparrow]

I heard first from Mikey

But I haven’t been there since day 1

[supple basalt]

Gotcha

I need to go watch the john michael cup from the season I left off. I think I've watched all of seasons one and two

[brisk hedge]

Spoiler alert: John Michael wins Season 3

[supple basalt]

[tight granite]

im rewatching via a vtubers reactions to them

[supple basalt]

Is it like

...Shit what's his channel

Kip reacts I think

Purple hair demon horns

[coarse viper]

Kip mentioned!

[junior phoenix]

Does anyone have any recommendations? I kinda plateu interest in Pokemon IF and wanted to play a different poekmon game to respark my interests.

[supple basalt]

Lol in one of Kip's team sky reactions I saw Mordrid talk XD

I think it was a team sky reaction

[coarse viper]

I like Kip because he is the only one sitting through the Ad's segments YouTubers have and rates them

[supple basalt]

Ikr I love he does that

Also helps that Mikey's ads are always great

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/aha-michael-groth-mandjtv-mandjtv-plays-i-have-an-idea-gif-24463407

[mighty robin]

that’s not mikey

[supple basalt]

Of course it isn't

It's Grunty Boy

Him and Mikey are completely different people

[tight granite]

kip doesnt do the cup but i do watch him too

[supple basalt]

Oh okay. I've only ever watched his Team Sky reactions

Lol

[tight granite]

Vtuber called Poseidon but her react channel is Sei's Trident

[brisk hedge]

She also clearly hasn’t heard of a shirt

[broken temple]

thats like the vtuber norm apperently

[tight granite]

lul had to wait to take a screenshot where any covering was even visible

[supple basalt]

Oh her. Yeah I tried watching her videos and wasn't a huge fan

[frank lily]

Almost done with the Home dex of Legends ZA. Just need Hoopa, Mega Lucario Z and Mega Floette

[tight granite]

dont think mega floette is possible

[frank lily]

AZ’s Eternal Floette can Mega Evolve

[tight granite]

sure?

but i would assume this is a shiny dex

[tight granite]

i think hers are still fine..this is just awful

[cloud lark]

I genuinely cannot see something with 200 speed and respectable special attack falling too far, even with its shallow moveset

[sweet crypt]

I can, since it really should've in Gen 8

At best I think it'd manage RU

But I'm kinda thinking it'd maybe even fall into NU

As some additional statistics

RU and UU got the same number of votes

With this server having the majority of UU votes

While another server had the majority of RU votes

The other servers I ran the poll in had UU and RU as pretty even

There's another server that I cannot host polls in, but the consensus there seems to be either RU or NU

[brisk hedge]

Look at this nonsense

[split yoke]

Art Lawd on FB

[reef path]

Did a run of astral red, fuck You lance and your 200 full restores

[verbal tundra]

trying this romhack

[reef path]

I give it 5 gyms before a rickroll apears or something

[verbal tundra]

insane

[reef path]

Another fire fighting, sounds like something game freak would do

[verbal tundra]

LMAO

[reef path]

Its sick

[verbal tundra]

I did not have a pokeball with me

:(

[cloud lark]

This was secretly what Gamefreak was planning to do in ZA: a Mega Charizard Z that's Fire/Fighting

[reef path]

I'm surprised incineroar wasnt a fire fighting, it looks like it was going to be but they saw that it where enough

[verbal tundra]

true

[reef path]

Who also gets huge power

[coarse viper]

Oh hi Nasty plot Mega Frostlass

[verbal tundra]

rip

[sweet crypt]

Lmao

[jovial cosmos]

Is anyone here knowledgeable enough about competitive to let me know if this is a good team for Champions? 😄

https://marriland.com/tools/team-builder/P46x3r4NcQm277jVB1cM1rdd1RC8RxpCdQvGC7zvyC3ckdCdQmzCq2z3C2k0yCv69vCVzzbCGvVNC13qfg/

[verbal tundra]

biking

[broken temple]

stupid romhack stupid

epic fire

🔥

[coarse viper]

Oh hi!...directly Shiny huh?

Welp failed to catch it riip

This lil shit refuses to come in the ball

Got his ass

[smoky gyro]

Why tf does rock not resist rock-

Its tripping me up

Fighting resisting bug I genuinely didnt know

[coarse viper]

You can squash bugs

[smoky gyro]

Wdym if I smash a rock against another rock I dont do less damage

[coarse viper]

Rocks smashing each other at least chips them both

[smoky gyro]

So it should be resisted

[coarse viper]

If both sides take damage why it should be resisted?

[smoky gyro]

Because you arent doing a lot of damage to the other rock

[coarse viper]

If you take 2 rocks of the same size and throw them at each other both get severely damaged

[smoky gyro]

Or both dont make much of a dent

[coarse viper]

You clearly never threw rocks at one another to say that kind of stuff

[smoky gyro]

Oh sorry mr grass toucher

[queen pecan]

probably since ground is resistant to rock and they didnt want a popular type combo to have that 4x resistance

[coarse viper]

Why the fk would that be an insult to anyone?

[smoky gyro]

Why does Whims even have prankster

What makes this little cotton ball fluff a prankster

[queen pecan]

part of its lore

Whimsicott can manipulate its body to pass through cracks, no matter how narrow. It takes advantage of this ability as a notorious prankster, moving things and leaving cotton balls behind.

[smoky gyro]

So

Why

Is it fairy then-

Fairy type with prankster makes very little sense

Actually why is Grimm part fairy also

[queen pecan]

i would argue fairy is the most fitting for a prankster

[smoky gyro]

...Actually thats fair

y

[queen pecan]

fairiys were known to cause pranks, lead ppl astray and whatnot

[smoky gyro]

Lmao

[sturdy sparrow]

I thinking about a team for champions but I keep coming up with physical answers

[cloud lark]

?tag rule4

[ebon pond]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 4 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Drugs. Any mention of any drugs, regardless of legality where you live is not acceptable.

[coarse estuary]

pokemon y wedlocke defeated. final pairings in the elite 4 were azumaril and goodra, conkeldurr and amoongus, delphox and staraptor

[supple basalt]

Casually ignores Lyra

[brisk hedge]

Is that a Sprigatito behind you

[coarse estuary]

it looks like a meowth that got stained by green food coloring

[split yoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZJap_jak6k

[coarse estuary]

idk whoelse feels like this but i do feel a lot of people get into pokemon they act like all this knowledge long time fans have on it is specifically stuff very few people actually know and when its found out its not true its wild. like bro the amount of people who dont know what stab is or super effective or why non damage moves or coverage moves are important is wild

[smoky gyro]

Lmao

[sweet crypt]

I don't think anyone doesn't know about the importance of SE, non-damaging and coverage moves

There's definitely people who don't know about STAB though

[coarse estuary]

tell that to the people who only teach their mons attacking moves that match the type of the 1 mon they use

[sweet crypt]

I imagine those people are like, literal children

[coarse estuary]

some are but ive also met some adults who do that (mainy ones who wanna get back into the game after long time) but ive also met someone who actually thought if a move was the same time as the mon that was using the move it would be super effective 100% of the time

[sweet crypt]

That has to be ragebait there's no way someone makes a mistake that silly

[coarse estuary]

you doubt how dumb pokemon fans can be.

[coarse viper]

laughs in Hisuian Zoroark still working with team open spreadsheets

[tropic hinge]

How dumb people in general can be.

[queen pecan]

Not me using fake out forgettibg they got it on their team

[coarse viper]

Peak acquired

[delicate hollow]

Has anyone done a shiny badge quest at all?

[smoky gyro]

Do people really just use Zard Y cause its faster

Like if its for drought why not just bring like

Torkoal

Or prankster sunny day

[sweet crypt]

Zard Y also is an actual Pokemon outside of setting Sun

I would not, however, recommend using it as your sun setter

[smoky gyro]

I just honestly never understood the appeal of dps with weather setting abilitiyes

When you can just

Have an actual damaging ability

And use a weather setter

Like imagine adapt zard y under sun

[sweet crypt]

It is incapable of holding the Heat Rock to extend its Sun, wants to abuse the Sun for itself and also can't set Sun as easily due to a quad Rock weakness

[sweet crypt]

That means you need to set up Sun for it

Which is typically less ideal

[smoky gyro]

Yeah which isnt really a problem for doubles

I guess youre thinking about singles tho

[sweet crypt]

For Doubles, then I would say Zard Y as Setter over Torkoal makes sense

Once again, it has far better offensive pressure

[smoky gyro]

Cause its faster

Thats why I asked what I asked

Do people prefer Y cause of its speed

[sweet crypt]

And Sun only lasting 5 turns is better in Doubles due to it being a much quicker format

It also doesn't get fucking fried by Stealth Rock

Because who tf is using it in Doubles

But once again, it isn't primarily a setter

It's primarily a bastard spamming Sun Boosted Heat Waves

Backing it up with strong Weather Balls for single target Fire damage and Solar Beams to vaporise any Water types that get in its way

And it can mix up its moves too

It can set up Tailwind, it can threaten Fire types with Scorching Sands, Protect is a no brainer option, it can run Overheat for the raw damage to break down walls it may not be able to otherwise that doesn't get sabotaged by Ttar Sand

[smoky gyro]

You really do like talking a lot about pokemon huh

That is not meant to be sarcastic btw

[tight granite]

specifically comp

[smoky gyro]

Why

Tf

Can fire types get frozen

Why is ice type the only freeze immunity

Wha

That makes no sense

[tight granite]

if an ice type wasnt cold enough to freeze fire, it would just die instantly

[smoky gyro]

How would you even freeze fire-

[tight granite]

making it cold enough

[smoky gyro]

Then it isnt fire anymore

[tight granite]

well it cant attack during that time

so might aswell not be

[supple basalt]

Don't fire types instantly thaw out?

I know using moves like flamethrower can thaw

[tight granite]

Pokopia : Kinda love that they dont expect you to rebuilt Silph Co but rather its an autobuilt...but that makes me wish other stuff in the game can be autobuilt and i dont have to do it..like make me choose between letting it rebuilt the town via a Kit or letting me rebuilt..cause man the Skyland City looks AWFUL and i dont wanna have that piece of trash around but i rather not rebuilt it..imma hope Magnemite Mode has a Destroy Mode. Which in that Case i will just destroy the entire City and flatten the Island

[ocean forge]

how do I delete the save file from my pokemon Y cartrige

[mighty robin]

yeah, I had to soft reset a few times when I ran out of beast balls

but I eventually got it

[vivid stream]

this works with all main 3DS titles btw

[smoky gyro]

Good ol gemini

[sturdy sparrow]

Frozen off a ice fang and ice beam in 1 day

Awesome

Ok day got better proved my Hera cross was superior to a former alpha

[lyric basin]

Caught a Noibat for a specific trade, but i might just have to keep this one..

So how does this work? I heard its beneficial, but idk how to 'use' it to my advantage

[cloud lark]

It doubles EV yield, so if you know what EVs Pokémon have, it makes raising them up really fast

If you wanna spread it to your other Pokémon, it spreads when you get into a battle with it in your party

[sand lion]

<@&306953740651462656> get em

[mild dirge]

Getting free elo (I guess elo?) off people running wolfey’s teams on champions cause they all lack the crucial component of being wolfeyvgc

[mild dirge]

Nvm I just lost one cause both their mons lived on 1% cause of low rolls (no focus sash on them)

[violet warren]

GUYS I FINALLY BEAT MY FIRST PLAYTHROUGH OF EMERALD

Marshtomp, Gardevior. Crobat. Manectric, Haryiama, and my HM slave Nat Turner

Which is a Lionne

[coarse viper]

Hell yeah

[coarse viper]

Congrats!

[smoky gyro]

What happened to swampert-

Do you just not like its design or smth

[coarse viper]

Boxing up the starter is not all that unusual

[supple basalt]

Dogtooth had a Marshtomp on game completion

Starter wasn't boxed it just wasn't evolved lmao

[violet warren]

we dont talk about the swampert incident

i found out like last battle i mustve given marshtomp that one stone where it wont evolve

and i made sure to grind everyone to level 100 bro just for it to be a clean sweep through evb

[smoky gyro]

Everstone

I was gonna say eviolite lmao

[coarse viper]

Thats on me xD
I totally forgot Marshtop exists

[violet warren]

lol what i was thinking

[smoky gyro]

Tbh I dont like how swampert looks so its understandable-

[violet warren]

mudkip is my boy when i see swampert i feel like a proud unc lol

[cloud lark]

Technician is probably one of Absol Z's better hopes for an ability considering how aggressively middling its moveset is. Lots of moves, but few of them are that good for it.

[sweet crypt]

I mean, what does it change for it?

It uh

Now has a 90 BP Flying move?

And uh

Stronger Pursuits if those exist

But like what else even?

I guess ZA gave it Shadow Sneak so if that carried over it has good Ghost Priority

[violet warren]

hey guys give me a name for my first time playing gen 2

[sweet crypt]

But it still lacks an actually strong Ghost move

[cloud lark]

Bite becoming a usable STAB move with a chance for flinch hax when previously the only really consistent STAB it had was Throat Chop. Which is fine, but just fine.

I guess it gets Assurance and Brutal Swing to take advantage of too, but the former only really has applications in Doubles and the latter is just bad

Extremely narrow applications in Doubles too considering it's super fast and it's not a format that's especially nice to glass cannons

[steady saffron]

Can we agree that Team Magma only got as far as they did because Team Aqua only care when Team Magma actually try disturb their plans (Like summon Groudon)

[steady saffron]

THAT MELTAN IS SO CUTE

[smoky gyro]

I have a question that might be a bit dumb

If Roost removes a Pokemon's flying typing until the end of the turn

I assume it's coded something like "remove flying typing until end of turn then add flying typing back"

So does that mean a non flying type using roost gets flying type randomly

In my head it makes sense

[smoky gyro]

Im genuinely surprised this killed

+4 Tera fighting life orb

With adapt

But still isnt blissey absurdly specially bulky

[brisk hedge]

No. There’s probably something that tells it to only change the type if the Pokémon using Roost is flying type

[supple basalt]

I discovered eclipserpg here recently. It's just a browser game where all you need is to click and I'm having TOO much fun

Love it

[coarse viper]

I like how the game has Dialogues for when you just give them Alphas
Thats such an attention to details

Small things like these makes me happy

[supple basalt]

Ikr? I love it

[small dirge]

marshadow is supposed to be rare bro

another one spawned

[graceful mirage]

Ive been shiny hunting this fucking virizion for 5 hours in ZA and im so sick of it

Id just trade my spare E floette for it but i want it specifically in a friend ball

[hollow fulcrum]

my babies are beautiful

[winter tusk]

What game

[hollow fulcrum]

pokemon Quetzal

[coarse estuary]

hopefully my 2nd attempt of my nuzlocke of Z goes better

[hollow fulcrum]

wish ya the best luck!

[cloud lark]

Went to check out the pokemon color palette quiz that MandJ did a video on recently, and he wasn't wrong its really janky

The three colors it gave me for one of them was shades of black and white, and the one hint I allowed myself was that it was Fighting type. Can you guess the answer?

That's right! ||Throh!||

[tight granite]

makes sense

it wears black and white and is fighting

dont even know what would fit better

[cloud lark]

Pancham

The fighting panda

When I think of black and white fighting types, that's way quicker into my mind than the red guy wearing a gi

[tight granite]

i forget its fighting

just think dark type

[worthy haven]

anyone know if you can play the romhack heartgold generations on a modded 3ds ?

[jagged tendon]

What're the best fanmade Pokémon games if you like IF? Pokerogue and Insurgence have been some of my other favorites

[tight granite]

dont think there are much similar to IF

i mean there are some like Ultimate Fusion

and i think there is a fusion emerald game

[reef path]

Does somebody have a direct link to 1.21 Minecraft bedrock? I want to play pokedrock but every link i get it gets flagged by My antivirus

[tight granite]

just use the normal launcher? it has every version

i dont play bedrock, makes me feel sick but that launcher should just like java have all versions

[coarse viper]

Tate and Liza Quetzal down

[thorny anchor]

anyone know where I can find the EVs and IVs for trainers in quetzal?

I'm nuzlocking max difficulty and I don't wanna wipe at Roxanne bc I fckd up my calcs😭

[lyric basin]

Does anyone have an encounter list for Bushido

[brisk hedge]

That’s extra silly since Pancham isn’t a dark type

[smoky gyro]

Well that explains why lmao

[sweet crypt]

Should've known

[smoky gyro]

I thought it was just a non defiant bisharp

You dont think zoroark immediately when you see weird interactions

[sweet crypt]

That literally doesn't exist in RandBats

Bisharp is always Defiant there

[smoky gyro]

Yeah but

Why would i think okay zoroark

[sweet crypt]

Because it looks like a Bisharp but doesn't have the only ability Bisharp can have in RandBats

Tbf either ways Twave is your best play

As you have seen, you had enough bulk to tank Sludge Bomb (Specs may be a roll though)

So either they Tera Turn 1 into Poison to OHKO or you paralyse them, both being good outcomes

If it isn't Sludge Bombing, then now you know it's Hisuian

[smoky gyro]

I was gonna quake tbh

I sent the twave because I assumed I would live an iron head at -1

But then why would it be at -1 it should have defiant

Thats why I got confused

[sweet crypt]

Well they could also switch tbf

But not many things like paralysis

So unless it's a Ground or Electric type, that's still a W

[inland crane]

Biggest school campus in New York state is 25000 acres. Iberian peninsula is 144000000 acres

Or around the same if you are from Pokemon

[smoky gyro]

Wot

[sturdy sparrow]

Umbreon user who had it swinging I respect them

No leftovers either

[smoky gyro]

Wot

[cloud lark]

Some youtube channel in my community feed is doing a ZA Mega elimination game. Apparently Starmie had been eliminated a while ago, got allowed back in due to popularity, and now the popular option in the comments is to immediately eliminate it again. Really says a lot.

[brisk hedge]

Now if we could only eliminate it in the game and replace it with a Mega Flygon, that’d be great

[smoky gyro]

We really dont seem to like mega starmie huh

[cloud lark]

I would go as far as to call it the most controversial Pokémon in recent memory

[smoky gyro]

Its definitely polarizing

I feel like you either love it or hate it

I...hate it-

[cloud lark]

Same

[smoky gyro]

Mega clef too

Tf is that why did she turn into an apricot

[cloud lark]

I was fine with Mega Clefable until I saw that what I thought were floppy dog ears are actually long tube ears like Shrek

[brisk hedge]

Mega Clefable is fine

[smoky gyro]

Mega D-nite looked weird to me at first

But now I dont mind it too much

[brisk hedge]

Well, aside from the fact that it’s another Gen 1 mega

[smoky gyro]

Dragonite kept the cute dragon aesthetics which Ill gladly take

We dont have many of those

[smoky gyro]

I mean its not too weird imo

I just dont know what the head is about

[worthy haven]

i wanted to play colloseum but my gamecube controller got stick drift ig ima go on emerald

[smoky gyro]

Why did they turn her into a weird acorn looking thing

Or apricot I forgot which it was

[worthy haven]

apricorn

[smoky gyro]

Also who needs magic bounce on a mega when you can just get it on a non mega

Unless espeon and hatterene isnt in champions

[worthy haven]

espeon is

[smoky gyro]

Yeah so its useless

[worthy haven]

hatterene too

i dont see them that much

[smoky gyro]

I love hatterene

[worthy haven]

same

[smoky gyro]

Peak pokemon design

[worthy haven]

fr

[smoky gyro]

I love the rapunzel theme

[worthy haven]

wish i had one for my team in champion

[smoky gyro]

Like mini girl inside a giant tower

[worthy haven]

technically

[smoky gyro]

Okay that just looks weird to me-

[worthy haven]

nah dw

[smoky gyro]

Put your hair back on-

[worthy haven]

you can see the pink is transparant

and you see her legs

[smoky gyro]

Oh yeah

Wow thats subtle

[worthy haven]

yea

[smoky gyro]

Anyways bye Im going to bed-

[worthy haven]

bye

[tight granite]

her tiny body is easier to see in her Gigantomax

cause only the hair gets bigger

[smoky gyro]

Wait

I just had a thought

If Mega Meganium's ability makes it always Sun on her side does that mean it also negates the sp.def boost from sandstorm

And the def boost from snow but thats relavant

And what about sandstorm chip

[tight granite]

pretty sure its abbility acivates per sun move and not always active like actual sun

[smoky gyro]

Okay yeah youre right

That feels really shit then doesnt it-

All youre getting is a 120 bp stab and a 100 bp fire coverage

[sweet crypt]

Ah yes, we're only getting a 120 BP STAB with 0 drawbacks and a 100 BP Fire coverage

Only

Oh and 66% healing from Synthesis

Hey, real quick, can you tell me what Fire coverage Grass types usually have?

[sweet crypt]

And I need to stress too, the gap between 90 (Energy Ball for example) and 120 is massive

People run 120 BP moves with massive drawbacks over 80-90 BP moves with no drawbacks

You'll never see someone run a move like Storm Throw over Close Combat for example

Or something like Liquidation over Wave Crash

Heck, most of the time, higher ladder will run Focus Blast over Aura Sphere

And Solar Beam is both accurate and lacks a direct drawback like -Defences or Recoil

[queen pecan]

and dont have to care if opponents team made it rain

just fire away

[worthy haven]

is there any romhack/fangame of emerald that add mega ?

[coarse viper]

Pokemon Quetzal
It has the Z ones too

[worthy haven]

ty

[thorny anchor]

absolutely not

unless you have like short term memory loss

[coarse viper]

I like mega Starmie tbh I think its a funny Mega

[queen pecan]

it goes boom

[sweet crypt]

Idk I feel like Mega Starmie is the most split I've seen the community in a while

[thorny anchor]

mega starmie isn't even bad

[sweet crypt]

Some people want it to go to hell

Some people think it's a Top 3 Mega

[thorny anchor]

so did some people for mega Dragonite on announcement

[sweet crypt]

Not very many in between I must say

[sweet crypt]

I remember that, too

It was nuts

[thorny anchor]

and way more ppl cared about mega Dragonite bc it's Dragonite

[queen pecan]

i still think it looks silly

[coarse viper]

Mega Feraligatr is the worst for me

Toilet seat aah look

[sweet crypt]

OK but where tf is the controversy there

[thorny anchor]

fr

[queen pecan]

oh ye true

[sweet crypt]

I've seen a grand total of like, 2 people say they like it

[thorny anchor]

I like the concept of it and the ability

[mighty robin]

I’m not sure of the exact word for word definition of controversial

[thorny anchor]

it looks ugly asf tho

[mighty robin]

but there’s probably a censorship thing if it looks like a toilet seat

[sweet crypt]

And unfortunately that's the most that a majority of people seem to have to say about it

[thorny anchor]

something that generates discourse/split opinions

[mighty robin]

isn’t that anything on the internet?

[sweet crypt]

There is no discourse around Mega Fera, barely anyone likes it

[coarse viper]

I was just saying the one I found appalling
Controversy wise Mega Starmie, Dragonite and Garchomp Z are up there

[sweet crypt]

I've seen people stand up for Starmie and Pyroar

[mighty robin]

there will be people arguing in the comments, yelling at people because they have nothing better to do

[thorny anchor]

Garchomp Z is controversial??

[sweet crypt]

And yet the Feraligatr believers barely exist

[sweet crypt]

All the Z Megas are from what I can tell

[coarse viper]

Ive seen people being fairly split on it so far

[sweet crypt]

For the sole reason of being Megas of Pokemon that already have Megas

[thorny anchor]

omfg ppl complain about anything

[sweet crypt]

Also Garchomp Z is very bizarre

With it becoming a Special attacker

And dropping the Ground type

That's also grounds for discourse

[thorny anchor]

they've been begging for mega garchomp to be fixed for like a decade

[thorny anchor]

I get Lucario

[sweet crypt]

I sure as hell have argued on whether it losing the Ground type is good or bad (It's bad lmao)

[thorny anchor]

it looks fugly

[coarse viper]

Imo imma wait for the ability to decide if I like Chomp Z in order to like use it

The design itself for me is way better than his first mega

[thorny anchor]

it's always bad to loose ground type

[sweet crypt]

And I've also argued with people who think Garchomp's special movepool is worthless

[thorny anchor]

top 3 types in the game arguably

[sweet crypt]

Even though it's lowkey better than its physical movepool

[thorny anchor]

draco meteor isn't worthless

are we deadass

[sweet crypt]

Like there's 3 types you see Garchomp use on offensive moves

Ground, Dragon and Fire

And all I'm gonna say is that Fire Blast is infinitely better than Fire Fang

And Draco Meteor is arguably better than the physical Dragon moves too

The reason why I'm not 100% confident on that is because Loaded Dice Scale Shot exists

[thorny anchor]

and it even learns earth power which isn't that much of a downgrade

[sweet crypt]

Draco Meteor is absolutely better than Dclaw or Outrage

[thorny anchor]

by far

[sweet crypt]

I do wonder if Garchomp Z would find itself using other special moves since it no longer has STAB on Ground

Maybe like, Surf for the bulky Grounds?

[coarse viper]

I think i rarely saw a Chomp without earthquake

[thorny anchor]

it even learns power gem for all the Charizard y you're gonna be seeing

[sweet crypt]

Draco probably already breaks Tusk tbf

[sweet crypt]

That's true actually

[coarse viper]

Power gem out of 141 spatk is neat xD

[sweet crypt]

Is Power Gem better or worse than Stone Edge

It's better than Rock Slide for Singles, that's for sure

And definitely worse than Rock Slide for Doubles

[thorny anchor]

power gem would probably kill through a draco meteor drop

[sweet crypt]

I'm moreso talking about in general to clarify

[thorny anchor]

a little more consistent but weaker, but rock hits more physically bulky pokemon

[sweet crypt]

To what extent does the BP gap stop justifying lacking accuracy

Because you'll see a lot of sample sets recommend Focus Blast over Aura Sphere because the sheer damage difference is just too large

But that's a 40 BP difference

Gem vs Edge is only a 20 BP difference

[thorny anchor]

you should never take focus blast over aura sphere

[sweet crypt]

Ofc it isn't directly comparable since 1 is physical and the other is special

But still

[coarse viper]

And in the context of Chomp Z the spatk is bigger anyway

[sweet crypt]

Idk, 70% chance to win vs a 100% chance to lose in certain scenarios?

I'm fucking gambling that shit

[coarse viper]

Not some like..huge margin
But given Stone Edge accuracy..I will prefer Power Gem for safely hitting

[sweet crypt]

I think I've missed Stone Axe more than Focus Blast ngl

[cloud lark]

The opinions around Mega Dragonite have mellowed out a lot over these past months and general opinions seem to be positive. Mega Starmie is still aggressively polarizing.

[thorny anchor]

the amount of times it's gonna matter is smaller than the amount of times you'll miss

[sweet crypt]

I've definitely missed Play Rough more than Focus Blast I can guarantee that one for sure

[thorny anchor]

buy a lottery ticket

[coarse viper]

They are more positives thanks to the shiny returning the colors to the pre evo untill the shiny everyone threaded Mega Dragonite like trash

[sweet crypt]

That 1.5× damage increase changes a lot of 2HKOs into OHKOs though, idk

A lot of these Pokemon end up getting like 70-80% damage with Aura Sphere on the Pokemon they want to use them on

[sweet crypt]

I should clarify

[thorny anchor]

thing is it's a coverage move

[sweet crypt]

I do only hit Focus Blast about 70% of the time

I just only hit Play Rough like

10% of the time

All that for it to do average damage

I hate Play Rough

[thorny anchor]

you need your coverage to be more consistent than powerful bc it's usually hitting for super effective anyway

[sweet crypt]

Aura Sphere's kinda at the point where it just

Doesn't get OHKOs on SE targets as coverage

[thorny anchor]

I mean it really depends on the pokemon also

[sweet crypt]

Unless your SE target is like, 4× weak to it, frail or both

cough cough Weavile

[thorny anchor]

A lot of steel types are specially frail

[sweet crypt]

But then there's the likes of Ferrothorn and Corviknight

[cloud lark]

I think another factor towards Mega Starmie's divisiveness is how good it is. On one hand it can be amusing to beat people up with what's effectively a joke. On the other hand it's infuriating to get your ass kicked by what's effectively a joke.

[sweet crypt]

One taking neutral damage from Fighting

And the other being Ferrothorn

[thorny anchor]

focus blast isn't doing the job either

[sweet crypt]

I could see it doing the job vs Ferrothorn with the right Pokemon

[thorny anchor]

atp just click a stab move tho

[sweet crypt]

And realistically probably Corviknight too, since Corv isn't the type of mon to threaten OHKOs

Well I guess if you're like

A Lucario Z

They do threaten Body Press

[thorny anchor]

and if you're not ohkoing focus blast only gets worse

bc there's more chances to miss

[sweet crypt]

Actually Lucario Z may just be like

The best example for this

Because I feel like the 1.5 BP difference could realistically matter for it vs these 2 in particular

Ferrothorn especially would be important here because it's fucking Ferrothorn

This mon will show up

[thorny anchor]

Focus blast from max spATK gholdengo only does 90.71%

on a bulky Lucario z

[sweet crypt]

I was more so referring to it vs Ferro/Corv

But also, I don't think people are gonna be running bulky Lucario Z

Well

Actually

I could see running some bulk

Since you're so fast

But at the same time you get threatened by yourself hard

So like idk

[thorny anchor]

no bulk aura sphere isn't guaranteed ohko

but focus blast is

[sweet crypt]

Either ways Gholdengo doesn't have Aura Sphere anyways

Rip bozo

[thorny anchor]

yeah but as an example of a big spATK non stab

[sweet crypt]

Aura Sphere vs Focus Blast has to be the ultimate "Accuracy vs Power" comparison

Because like ain't nobody gonna be picking the 75 BP move with accuracy issues in Singles

People barely use 75 BP moves that have 0 accuracy issues in Singles 💀

Like uhh

Drain Punch

[thorny anchor]

If archaludon learned focus blast I'm still taking aura sphere is all I know

[sweet crypt]

And uhh

[thorny anchor]

actually 🤓

mega khang and some pokemon who only learn drain punch do it for coverage

[sweet crypt]

Is Giga Drain used like at all

[sweet crypt]

I did literally just list Drain Punch as a 75 BP move people actually use

[thorny anchor]

like mega venasaur I think

[sweet crypt]

That makes sense

[thorny anchor]

oh I misread😭

[sweet crypt]

I think I've seen Rock Blast more than Rock Slide

Let alone Stone Edge

Rock types try to have a good STAB move challenge:

[thorny anchor]

Stone edge isn't bad per se

[sweet crypt]

(This extends to Special Rock types where their best moves are an 80 BP bog standard move with poor distribution and a 120 BP move that has accuracy and distribution issues and is also a 1 time use because it's a charge-up move)

[coarse viper]

With how often I miss it, it is to me xD

I think I hit Stone edge like..6 times ever

[sweet crypt]

The +1 SpA is nice though

It only matters if your Glimmora or Lunala or whatever doesn't fucking miss like an idiot though

[thorny anchor]

80% is fine

it's like the lowest I'll go if I have an option

[sweet crypt]

Why does Meteor Beam only have 90% accuracy

Who decided that

[coarse viper]

Gamefreak because...Gamefreak

[sweet crypt]

It's like their obsession with making their 2 glass cannon types consist primarily of slow, defensive Pokemon

[thorny anchor]

Meteor beam is a funny ass move

[sweet crypt]

Hey, that includes Rock, too!

[thorny anchor]

it gets worse the more you look at it

[cloud lark]

Rock isn't allowed to have widely accessible 100 percent accurate moves besides Power Gem and nothing else

[sweet crypt]

We have like, 4? Good offensive Rock types

[cloud lark]

Just like Electric isn't allowed to have widely accessible physical moves that don't suck

[sweet crypt]

And 3 of them use Signature moves

[thorny anchor]

I can only think of 3

[coarse viper]

Accelerock for Dusk Lycanroc
Diamond Storm for Diancie

Who else?

[cloud lark]

Mighty Cleave for Boulder

[sweet crypt]

MDiancie, Iron Boulder, Cornerstone Ogerpon and (Mega) Ttar

[cloud lark]

Accelerock being a signature move to this day is so stupid

[sweet crypt]

To these Pokemon's credits, their Rock type utilisation is actually pretty good

[thorny anchor]

I forgot about mega diancie

[coarse viper]

Most people do xD

[sweet crypt]

You definitely couldn't say the same about Iron Boulder's Psychic type

But that's besides the point

[thorny anchor]

I just don't ever associate diancie with offensive

[sweet crypt]

I sure do love having to rely on fucking Zen Headbutt as STAB

[cloud lark]

Diancie having any offensive presence is actually the only difference between its base form and Carbink. It's literally just Carbink with usable attacking stats

[sweet crypt]

Can't wait to miss Great Tusk as it switches in and then do jackshit and get blasted by Earthquake

[thorny anchor]

I would argue mega Aerodactyl is aight

[sweet crypt]

True, true

I forgot

That's on me

[coarse viper]

To be fair psychic physical moves are very limited
Psychic Cut and Zen Headbutt is about as much as many get

[sweet crypt]

Zen Headbutt was made by someone feeling very, very mean

We need Psychic Fangs to get distributed more

[thorny anchor]

what even uses psychic fangs that isn't trying to do crit stuff or has strong jaw?

[cloud lark]

Metagross uses it IIRC

[sweet crypt]

Metagross

[thorny anchor]

oh yeah true

[sweet crypt]

Maybe NDM if it forgets that Psychic is a dogshit type

Oh right Photon Geyser

Nvm

Solgaleo it is

Until it remembers that Psychic is a bad type, too

Assuming somebody even starts to use Solgaleo in the first place

[thorny anchor]

Solgaleo doesn't learn it

Only the necrozmas

[sweet crypt]

What the fuck

[thorny anchor]

So necrozma dusk mane

[sweet crypt]

No wait yes it does

I just checked

It literally does

Nobody uses Solgaleo anyways but still

Uhh

Ddance Mew probably uses it idk

[sweet crypt]

There's not many physical Psychics

[coarse viper]

Yeah they really overtunned Lunala and left Solgaleo in the dust xD

[thorny anchor]

so I got lied to

[sweet crypt]

And not all of them get Pfangs

[thorny anchor]

😭

[sweet crypt]

That's Photon Geyser

[thorny anchor]

I thought they were talking abt photon geyser I gotta stop playing yugioh

[sweet crypt]

The likes of Medicham, NatDex MMX, Victini, Poopa Unwiped etc would really like Psychic Fangs

Poopa did actually get Psychic Fangs in ZA, but we don't know if it'll keep it in Champions

[sweet crypt]

Iron Boulder too but tbh?

Probably doesn't make up for how much its Psychic Type weighs it down

Genuinely almost any other secondary type would probably have Iron Boulder seeing OU success

[cloud lark]

Medicham is probably doomed to use Zen Headbutt for forever due to it being the most thematically appropriate phys psychic move for it

[thorny anchor]

I don't think medicham would care for a 5 BP difference that much

[sweet crypt]

It would care for actually being able to fucking hit its attacks for shit

Every single fucking Medicham Zen Headbutt I use misses

It's so annoying

[thorny anchor]

lmao

[sweet crypt]

I may as well be running Splash

[thorny anchor]

I barely even ever click zen headbutt on medicham

[mighty robin]

I never use zen headbutt on medicham, and there’s an easy explanation for that

[thorny anchor]

I would rather run like ice punch or thunder punch over zen headbutt

comes up more often

atleast mega medicham

[sweet crypt]

The Psychic STAB is mainly to OHKO bulky Poisons like Pex

I don't think Tpunch OHKOs Pex

[mighty robin]

what if it was level 50 vs level 5?

[thorny anchor]

Tpunch doesn't ohko at neutral

does 90+% so it isn't threatening anything anyway

[sweet crypt]

Idk I don't want to get Scald Burnt or Toxiced

[thorny anchor]

toxic is fine

medicham is a nuke anyway and scald burn is unlikely bc they only get to hit once

[sweet crypt]

I mean considering how I'm talking about how I never land 90% accurate moves