other-pokemon-games

[sweet crypt]

Well, you'll see when you get to 145

[tardy anchor]

wdym?

[sweet crypt]

You'll probably get a bit of a nasty shock at 145 is what I mean

[tardy anchor]

floor?

[sweet crypt]

You get an invisible point meter when you have Gimmighoul in your party

[sweet crypt]

Yes

[sweet crypt]

And this meter goes up when you claim a money related item

Not just the Nuggets and Relic Gold, mind you

But also stuff like the Amulet Coin

Once this meter reaches a certain number, Gimmighoul can evolve

And will do so when it next levels up

[tardy anchor]

damn then its really difficult to evolve it cause its basically useless untill floor 145

[sweet crypt]

You can get it far earlier than 145

I don't know the exact numbers

But for a recent run, I was trying to grind friendship for it for like

60 waves

Until I looked it up

And realised it wasn't a friendship evo anymore

Still got it before 95 iirc

[tardy anchor]

I dont think its that good, is it?

[sweet crypt]

I mean Alluring Voice does hit the Dark types

But the issue is

Skeledirge is very slow

So usually the Dark types will still get a hit off on it

[tardy anchor]

yeah thats what I was thinking

[sweet crypt]

You also really want the move below it, Slack Off

Because having recovery on a bulky Pokemon is always better than not having it

[tardy anchor]

hm

[sweet crypt]

Torch Song, Ghost STAB and Slack Off are already mandatory

And that last slot can be used for better things than Alluring Voice IMO

[tardy anchor]

I see

[sweet crypt]

Especially since the Dark types typically don't really want to take hits from a Skeledirge that has gotten too many Torch Songs anyways

And some of the few that do like Ttar would simply tank an Alluring Voice and OHKO you anyways

Ttar's stupidly bulky with Sand Stream, see?

So it's very tough to OHKO it with a non STAB special move

Unless it's a Fighting move

Ttar's one of the more annoying Pokemon to fight on runs

Sandstorm chip and sheer special bulk can be an issue if you get it before being able to set up

[tardy anchor]

GGz

damn thats my first time encountering a starter in the wild

didnt know this was possible

[sweet crypt]

I've also seen like

Blaziken in Mountains

Delphox and Zard in Volcano I believe?

Typh is probably also there idk

Greninja in Lakes

[tardy anchor]

oh

[sweet crypt]

Swampert in Swamps

I think Skeledirge can appear in the Graveyard?

Etc

They're very rare, but they do appear

[tardy anchor]

ahm what were they thinking while making these sprites 🫣

[sweet crypt]

These are from the Unova games

As are a majority of the sprites

The ones that aren't are mainly the sprites of characters and Pokemon from after Gen 5

Like Geeta and her fuckass Miraidon that I hate

[tardy anchor]

Wo hooo Got slack off

[sweet crypt]

Genuinely the most nightmarish champion to deal with

[tardy anchor]

and a great IV spread

[sweet crypt]

The fucking lead Tera Shell Glimmora and the Tera Flying Kingambit and the Miraidon UGH

[tardy anchor]

Is this Dratini good?

[sweet crypt]

I only ever used it after getting Aerilate

And Multiscale

[tardy anchor]

and this Deino

[sweet crypt]

Multiscale is Dnite's HA and Dratini+Dragonair's Passives

While Aerilate is Dnite's Passive

You'll typically want both to spam those Aeriate Espeeds while being damn near impossible to OHKO

[tardy anchor]

Multiscale is genuinely on of the most broken ability in the game

[sweet crypt]

It really is

There's not many that are stronger

Like uh

Huge/Pure Power is definitely stronger

I'd say Magic Guard is stronger too because like

You don't simply overshadow Unaware, Regenerator and Tinted Lens and not be in the running for Top 5 Ability

Literally all 3 of those abilities are S+ tier

[tardy anchor]

Finally got it now I'll recreate that ytuber's vid where he completed pokerouge with just tinktonk :>

[sweet crypt]

Tinkatink has been heavily nerfed since then

It no longer has Huge Power

[tardy anchor]

really!?

[sweet crypt]

Also, the final boss has Flamethrower now

So it would probably be able to beat even Huge Power Tinkaton now

Considering Huge Power turns Pokemon with 50 Attack into powerhouses

I don't know why you're shocked a Pokemon with 75 Attack and a 160 BP move was too broken with it

And needed to be nerfed

[tardy anchor]

I remember the ytuber that completed the game with just tinkaton didnt have huge power and the eternatus did have flamethrower in its gmax form

[sweet crypt]

Oh fr?

[tardy anchor]

yeah

[sweet crypt]

Actually I shouldn't be too surprised

Considering how many times I've had Etern use Cross Poison on Scizor

[tardy anchor]

he outhealed the flamethrower

[sweet crypt]

Top 10 reasons why Leftovers and Shell Bell are underrated

Actually just the most broken items in Pokerogue

[tardy anchor]

true I just have it on my Thundurus and its game changing

[sweet crypt]

I see people always say to remove Leftovers for Eternatus because it can steal those

And while that is true

They also literally just

Allow you to set up to +6 in its face during Phase 1

Mainly with SpD boosters

A very wide variety of Pokemon can 1v1 Eternatus

And a good portion of those have Leftovers to thank

[tardy anchor]

pretty good combo for floor 46 I havent bought a single healing potion for Thundurus

[sweet crypt]

I don't think Tinkaton could solo Eternatus without Lefties or Shell Bell

I could try

Except I can't

[broken temple]

i honestly like to use phase one of etern to debuff him to hell

[sweet crypt]

I STILL haven't gotten Shift Gear

I have hatched like 70 fucking Tinkatinks

[tardy anchor]

lol

[sweet crypt]

Life is pain

But yeah I don't expect myself to put Tinkaton in S tier

I could see an S-?

But my expectations are currently set at an A or A+

With that said I expected Crabominable to be D tier garbage

But it was actually lowkey not that bad

Like B+ tier

[tardy anchor]

huh I just hatched an Iron Valiant and a Moltress but they arent visible in my pokemon list!?

the starter list

[sweet crypt]

Do you have any pics?

[tardy anchor]

no

I thought I'll take 1 with its Egg move

wtf is this 😭

does it have something to do with me not completing the classic even once?

[sweet crypt]

It shouldn't be

Well

I could've sworn the Paradoxes were locked behind Classic

But Moltres certainly never was

[tardy anchor]

what the heck bro

[sweet crypt]

And if the Paradoxes were, they'd make it so that you can't hatch it at all

You may want to report the bug to the Pokerogue server

And also make 100% sure they aren't there

[tardy anchor]

😭

[sweet crypt]

You're filtering by Gen 1 rn

There's a chance you got Galarian Moltres

Which wouldn't be listed here

[tardy anchor]

no it was normal one

[sweet crypt]

And Ival definitely wouldn't be listed there either

[sweet crypt]

Are you sure it wasn't a Shiny G-Molt?

[tardy anchor]

not even here

[tardy anchor]

no it was normal 1

I thought I'll get an ss with its egg move and send it here

but both of them are no where to be seen

[sweet crypt]

Gen 9 tab?

Just to make sure Ival isn't there either

[sweet crypt]

And then maybe check to see if there was a minor failure in data storage and see if any data rolled back

Like for example if you are on an earlier wave than last time and/or still have the epic eggs

[tardy anchor]

huh wdym?

like yeah it hatched in the middle of a fight and then I refreshed the game to open the start menu to check the mons (if there is a better way to check then idk)

and when I rechecked

both were not there

ohh ok ig I found the prob

I refreashed before the site loaded the data

my gym battle also just started when I clicked continue

I remember I had finished it

Yup all 4 are back

[sweet crypt]

That's what I expected

Anyways, egg moves?

[tardy anchor]

lemme check

and yeah its in Gen 9 not Gen 8

[sweet crypt]

Actual Flying STAB, pretty good but not the best egg move for it (that'd be Calm Mind)

[tardy anchor]

oh I see

[sweet crypt]

No Retreat is a very strong setup move usually, but I'm honestly not a fan of it when using Physical attackers since I keep getting Intimidated into oblivion. That said, it is still good, though Magical Torque (the rare) would've been nice

[sweet crypt]

I'm not a fan of Heavy Slam as an egg move since Gyro Ball is better for a Pokemon as slow as Stakataka

[tardy anchor]

yeah I also think the same

[sweet crypt]

And also

Keep in mind

Heat Crash on PRIMAL GROUDON is rarely used

Y'know, the 2nd heaviest Pokemon in the game, only slightly behind the joint 1st place?

With STAB, and an automatic Sun boost?

Weight based moves are typically just not consistent enoigh

[tardy anchor]

true

GGz got Left over+Healing charm

DAMN JUST GOT 2 TAPU KOKO!!!

are they good?

[supple basalt]

Tapu is pretty good. It's one of the gen 7 legendaries

Four tapus in total.

[tardy anchor]

ik Tapu Fini is one of the best

but what about Koko?

[supple basalt]

Koko is pretty good

[sweet crypt]

I'd say all 4 are good in Pokerogue

Tapu Bulu has Victory Dance now

So it can't be bad

And I've personally used the other 3 Tapus and can confirm they're good

I'd say Koko is worst of the 3

But it isn't bad, it's just

Y'know

Competing with Fini and Lele

I'd say something regarding Psychic Surge Expanding Force

But it'd technically be against the rules I think

Specifically Rule 4

[delicate hollow]

Question
In the DS mainline Pokemon games (Sinnoh/Johto) with Ruby Sapphire or Emerald in the GBA cartridge slot inserted you will enable swarms is that correct?

[coarse estuary]

no

[sweet crypt]

Hmm

Bad idea for a Pokerogue run unlocked

Can I beat Pokerogue with only a team of Male Combee, Unown, Sunkern, Castform, Luvdisc and Smeargle?

The only reason I have hope in this run is me having multiple Sleep users and Quiver Dance Castform

[coarse estuary]

can someone tell me when following the rules for a challenge run of a pokemon game lost the meaning of if im doing x challenge i have to follow this skeleton of rules but can add other rules and clauses around that skeleton without changing the core rules

[sweet crypt]

What is this addressed towards

[coarse estuary]

its not addressed toward anything specific or a specific person im just venting out loud because i personally get so annoyed when people are claiming to do nuzlockes but they have either a revive clause where mons can be revived or a clause that allows them to chose what they want in the grass instead of the first encounter

[sweet crypt]

People do that?

[coarse estuary]

yes people do that. ive seen so many people on r/nuzlocke specifically post they are doing nuzlockes but have revive clauses. then when i would call them out saying its not a nuzlocke if you break the rule of faint=dead i get downvoted to heck and called a gatekeeper. like since when is telling people because of x they cant claim to be doing y gatekeeping

[sweet crypt]

Hmm

I think I've found your first mistake

You went on Reddit

Reddit can and will give you brain damage from reading the takes of all time

Some of my personal favourites are that [spoiler Pokemon] stopping a ||city levelling attack|| from [spoiler thing] means that it scales to Multiversal because said thing amped something else up

Because as we know, if a Scraggy uses Coaching 6 times on Ultra Necrozma, it is now as strong as 4 Ultra Necrozma

And that feat is also completely unrelated to the ||city leveling attack||

Or that since Mega Rayquaza low diffs Deoxys

And that Deoxys gets mid diffed by Mega Mewtwo

Who gets mid diffed by Zygarde 50%

Who gets mid diffed by Ultra Necrozma

Mega Rayquaza scales directly to Ultra Necrozma

Yeah a lot of this stupidity is powerscaling

[coarse estuary]

yeah reddit takes are wild. its also wild when those wild takes are defended just to avoid being called a gatekeeper. like bro why do rules exist if you are just going to break them

[sweet crypt]

Reddit in general has opinions that make my head hurt

So does YT for that matter

In fact the last time I looked at YT comments under a Pokemon video it was even worse than Reddit

Which is an insane feat btw

[coarse estuary]

like fhe nuzlocke thing aint even a reddit exclusive thing like bro dont be going into a nuzlocke dedicated space and be bragging you beat this really hard run as a nuzlocke but deaths only counted on february 29th to a crit stab move and you could use whatever you wanted to use

[sweet crypt]

This feels like a Jojo Stand Activation Requirement

Or maybe how to evolve the new Gen 16 regional Yamask

(Its evo is even worse than Runerigus to continue the trend)

[coarse estuary]

though on the topic of dumb youtube comments i seen one on a poison only run where the person playing could only use poison types and someone commented "why you only using poison types? that makes your team really prodictable and weak to ground and psychihc types"

[sweet crypt]

I feel like that has to be a joke

[coarse estuary]

id think so too but ive also seen a comment on a gen 6 speedrun video where the person was talking bout how megas are being used now and records are being broken and the reason they didnt use megas before is because they thought the animations lost them too much time to make it worth it and the cooment was like "shocker wow megas are good who woulda thought" that tells me 100% they didnt watch the whole video

[sweet crypt]

Tbh I feel like assuming the animation time wouldn't make up for it would be very reasonable

Heck, it probably wouldn't in specific battles

And they'd have to lab out which battles are quicker with Megas

And which are not

A lot of effort goes into routing for speedruns

[coarse estuary]

yeah but the video even goes into that the animations dont actually lose them as much time as they thought innitially for so long that its actually more viable to use megas in an xy speedrun than the old sweet hearts strat

[sweet crypt]

Hmm

I may need to watch videos on Pokemon speedrunning

I have shown interest towards speedrunning, just never of Pokemon

The main games I can think of that I have watched extensive numbers of speedrunning related videos on are the 2 Hollow Knight games

-# though I guess for Silksong it's more so watching vods at this stage of the game

[coarse estuary]

tbh if you wanna watch pokemon speedrunning videos watch pulseeffects.

[coarse estuary]

if u ever wanna talk to me bout speedrunnin you can. i got a 5th place time in 1 game and 2 world records in 2 other games

[past wedge]

is there a trusted website that has most of the Other pokemin rom hacks?

[coarse estuary]

?Tag rule6

[ebon pond]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 6 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Resources to illegal content (ROMs, pirated movies, etc). We are sure that there are ways and means of finding these that do not involve a Pokémon Fan Game discord server.

[past wedge]

my b 🫡

[tardy anchor]

Is Lumiina Crash Lugia good?

GGz

my first blue shiny

GGz awsome IVs

Is my game broken or what?

[sweet crypt]

It's either broken or you're lucky as fuck

You may want to check your starter screen to find out which of the 2 it is

I dont even get shiny luck this good from the shiny capsules

Actually, my shiny luck in general doesn't even seem much better than normal with those

Maybe that's just me being unlucky idk

[tardy anchor]

might be

btw I also got a Lugia with Lumina crash

is it the best egg move for Lugia?

[sweet crypt]

No, that's Oblivion Wing

But honestly, Lugia doesn't need the egg moves

[tardy anchor]

oh yeah that move which also heals Lugia

[sweet crypt]

What it does need is its Hidden Ability

With the HA, Lugia is probably like

The easiest fucking Pokemon to use ever

[tardy anchor]

it got Multiscale, doesnt it?

[sweet crypt]

If you lose with a Multiscale Lugia you might need to quit

[sweet crypt]

Yes

But yeah no Lugia is nigh invincible

And while its damage is low, like I said, it's nigh invincible

You can easily click 6 Calm Minds

Especially on Special Attackers

And when your SpA is quadrupled your damage isn't really low after all

You also have Recover because why not

That's a base move too

[tardy anchor]

lol yeah I just started a run with Lugia and a shiny Electrike and it feels as if am playing on easy mode

[sweet crypt]

The biggest buffs for Lugia are probably like

Delta Stream and Oblivion Wing

Apart from that?

[tardy anchor]

GGz the shiny arent a glitch!!!!

[sweet crypt]

It's just the normal Lugia gameplay

Literally I cannot think of a scenario where you could lose with a Multiscale Delta Stream Lugia in Classic even without egg moves

Apart from like

Falling asleep on your keyboard

And accidentally clicking Calm Mind over and over against a Kingambit

Or something

It isn't as good for Endless

Since in lategame Endless, bulk literally doesn't matter

The only way to live is by running away endlessly and abusing Sturdy and healing

Because even a random ass Raticate could OHKO your ass

I hate Endless

[tardy anchor]

btw this thing also got almost perfect IVs

[sweet crypt]

Lategame endless sounds so fucking unfun

[tardy anchor]

lol

Finally got my Favourite Pokemon :>>'

[tardy anchor]

huh thats the first time I got Ability charm from Ivy

is it something kinda rare or what?

[sweet crypt]

It's a bit rare yeah

Not THAT rare though

I keep getting it over Leftovers and it maddens me

[tardy anchor]

damn

[tardy anchor]

OMG I GUESS I GOT THE LUCK OF EVERY PERSON IN THE WORLD

5 fucking shiny in 1 day

that too 4 blue and 1 red

OMG

[sweet crypt]

And you got Boomburst too, that's big

[tardy anchor]

what does that move do??

[sweet crypt]

Boomburst and Recover are, in my opinion, the 2 best Egg moves for Farigiraf

[sweet crypt]

140 BP Normal move

The only drawback is that it hits your own teammate

[tardy anchor]

oh

[sweet crypt]

Keep in mind, this is the same BP as the signature move of Ursaluna Blood Moon

[tardy anchor]

but thats an issue for only double battle

[sweet crypt]

And that move has the same restriction as Gigaton Hammer

[tardy anchor]

this seems too good to be true

[sweet crypt]

Recover and Boomburst aren't only the 2 best Egg Moves on Farigiraf

But also its 2 best moves in general, IMO

[tardy anchor]

ig Lugia unlocked some sort of extra luck for me

[sweet crypt]

That happens a lot with Pokerogue

[tardy anchor]

after I hatched Lugia last night

my luck has been over the roof

[tardy anchor]

oh I see

[sweet crypt]

With that said you will NEVER catch me using Shittide Storm on Tapu Fini

[tardy anchor]

why?

[sweet crypt]

It may be a spread move

But it also has the same BP and Accuracy as STONE EDGE

Why use that when I can use Moonblast with 5 less BP and a lack of spread for perfect accuracy?

The only use it has to me is early game before I get Moonblast

[tardy anchor]

true

btw how good is this guy?

I forgot its name

[sweet crypt]

Haven't used Silvally

So idk

[tardy anchor]

Ohk

[sweet crypt]

Silvally doesn't have amazing stats though

[tardy anchor]

It's the long lost brother of Arceus

😆

[delicate hollow]

Porygon and Type: Null are man made Pokemon and in the Sun and Moon games we are told there are 3 Type: Null's available with one of them Gladion's own

[tight granite]

i mean you mean him specially or his evolution/unrestricted form. tho they dont change much stat wise

so weird to make a big deal out of him finally removing his armor that held back his power and all the armor did is make him a bit slower

[tight granite]

i mean not technically wrong, its a self made mon to recreate Arceus

like Mewtwo was for Mew..tho Mewtwo was actually a success

it mostly sucks from its movepool being so bad

atleast thats what i heard, i personally dont care for comp use

[sweet crypt]

IMO, the biggest drawback of Silvally are just the stats

If Base 100 across the board has fallen off into being a mid stat spread

Then imagine what Base 95 across the board would be

However, at the end of the day, even with these stat spreads the base 100s do still have niches in lower tiers

As do specific forms of Silvally

Silvally Ground is one of the 2 best Pokemon in Gen 8 NU

Edgequake Coverage is as good as always

Especially with Swords Dance to boost Attack and Flame Charge to boost Speed

Attack's on the lower side but you have a 120 BP STAB Ground move and SD

And 95 Speed is a pretty respectable speed tier in lower tiers

You can also run U-Turn for pivoting

In PU, the main forms are Steel and Ghost

Steel can run Work Up sets to abuse its mixed movepool, abusing the Steel type to gain free setup opportunities

And it can also run a utility set with moves like Parting Shot/U-Turn, Defog and Toxic

Flamethrower can also be ran on these sets to check other Steel types

As well as Grasses like Eldegoss and Ferroseed

Oh, yeah, Ferroseed is like

Unironically one of the best Pokemon in Gen 8 PU

About as good as Charizard even

Which is very funny to me

Anyways Ghost just uses Swords Dance

Since really, 99% of the times when you're a Ghost type, your best move option is your STAB, which in this case is the 120 BP Physical Multi-Attack

Because Ghost is a cracked offensive type, and in this case, Multi-Attack a cracked move

It does also run Flame Charge for Speed

And Explosion for Audino

It even has a clear effect in ZU, with Silvally Dragon being banned and Silvallies Dark and Poison performing very well

Above NU though?

Yeah, no

[coarse estuary]

Pokemon red done and with that the first leg of the lineagelocke completed. The mons moving with me into Johto are Lapras, Alakazam, Venusaur, Raticate Nidoking and pidgeot

[tardy terrace]

Ooooh its like the reverse of that one PM7 video?

Moving up through games, taking the team with you?

[coarse estuary]

well kinda. what im doing is a run that is a mix of a genlocke and wedlocke what pm7 did was just a reverse genlocke

[tardy terrace]

Oooh

I seee

Thats cool

May i ask what a Wedlocke is?

Im unfamiliar

[coarse estuary]

a wedlocke is a challenge made by youtuber marriland. the premise is that you have 3 teams of 2 mons of opposing genders ie nido queen and nido king as a pair slow bro and slow king as a pair. each pair consists of 1 male and one female. once a pair is made neither mon from the pair can be swapped out unless one dies. in order to catch a mon it has to be whatever gender you have less of on the team ie if you have 3 males 2 females your next enxounter must be female. if you have a full team of 3 pairs just catch the first encounter. the challenge comes from while in battle you may only use 1 pair the entire fight until either the fight is won or both members have fainted. if you have any other questions bout it feel free to ask

[tardy terrace]

Wowie

Thats neat

[coarse estuary]

its really neat and a fun thing to do that doesnt have the inharent base nuzlocke problems of being able to gaurentee a broken team of the 6 best mons in the game and being able to counter sweep every major fight

[tardy terrace]

Kinda reminds me of a soul link

[coarse estuary]

kinda but its much different from a soul link because in a soul link if 1 mon of the pair dies the other is automatically dead but thats not the case in a wedlocke

[supple basalt]

I have a question about your examples. What does that mean for your pokemon that don't have split evolutions? Can you just not use it or smth?

Okay but real talk. I actually would rather do a wedlocke with any gender mons just because if I get the rare encounter of the route I don't wanna spend hours hunting for not only a second one, but the opposite gender which may or may not spawn

You specified same evolution lines in Slowbro/King and Nidoqueen/King so I assumed they have to be the same line btw

And then there's stuff like Salazzle where the male exists but cannot evolve with Combee being in the same situation

[coarse estuary]

they do not have to be the same evo line i just used that as an example to better understand the gender parings. like in my leg 1 i had an alakazam paired with a lapras and a nidoking with a pidgeot

[supple basalt]

Gotcha

I think the rules would be better to allow any gender pairing BUT they must be in the same egg group

Makes more sense to me

But "Undiscovered" is banned

I'm only speculating personal opinions on the rules of the wedlocke lol

[coarse estuary]

i mean you can adapt the rules to make same gendered pairings but the og rules only allow pairings of opposite gender mons. i do feel though that allowing same gendered pairs would just turn it into a regular nuzlocke with some spicy battling rules since you could very easily just make it to where you had the 3 best pairings possible on the team and make the game really easy

[indigo mirage]

What’s people’s worse team and the game it was in mine was brilliant dimond

[coarse estuary]

worse as in game you enjoyed playing the least or worse as in team you hated the most

[brisk hedge]

Mine was in Legends Arceus, because I didn’t form the team until very late and I pretty much stopped using them once I beat the main story

[supple basalt]

With BDSP having a shitty team is standard since most of the good pokemon and a fair few evolutions are locked to postgame

Honestly I do think my worst team was in HGSS cause I just took what I liked aesthetically just like PIF

I don't remember the entire team though

[indigo mirage]

I used krkatot, patcharacu,honchcrow,finion, chimeco, and the grass starter

I struggled on the mars fight with that team lol

[sweet crypt]

I think my overall weakest team was in my first playthrough of SV because I kept coping about the Linking Cord existing

So I was just dragging along a Scyther the whole time

[supple basalt]

I know I had Meganium. I may have used Pachirisu but not for the long term. I 100% had Vaporeon because it was one of my staple pokemon at the time.

I wish I remembered my first SV team

But honestly Meowscarada kinda carried

-w-

[sweet crypt]

Like no disrespect to Scyther, but it sure as hell is no Scizor

[sweet crypt]

To be expected when all 3 starters are as strong as they are tbh

[indigo mirage]

Only time I used a trade evo on my team was the Machop in crystel who o could not evolve cus I had no friends who played pokemon. And I only used him so he was like 51 at e 4

[supple basalt]

Omg right Paldea starters are fucking busted

[indigo mirage]

I was hoping to use hm moves again that’s why I made that team cus each one can learn an hm move or two

[sweet crypt]

Crazily enough from a playthrough PoV Meows might be the worst?

[indigo mirage]

In bdsp

[supple basalt]

You can use HMs in BDSP, it just gives you the option not to waste a slot

[sweet crypt]

And you've seen for yourself how well the "worst" performs

[supple basalt]

If you have an HM on your pokemon, your mon will use the HM instead of the random summoned Bidoof

[indigo mirage]

Oh I normely always build a team around hm users lol

[supple basalt]

I don't

[sweet crypt]

Tbh a part of why I like the Paldea starters apart from just thinking their designs are stellar is because none of them are bad

[supple basalt]

But past Gen 5 there is lit no need to as that's when they began filtering out HMs

[sweet crypt]

Like in the slightest

[supple basalt]

Wait no Kalos had HMs, I'm thinking of Alola

[indigo mirage]

I may replay bdsp and use like croguk and bronzor

[sweet crypt]

And like yeah yeah use your favourites but it's a lot easier to get attached to something if it isn't selling every battle

[supple basalt]

When was the last time we actually had a region where no starter was mid

Before G9

[indigo mirage]

Gale of darkness had no started lol

[sweet crypt]

I think all 3 starters were pretty good in Gen 4 for a playthrough

[supple basalt]

Oh yeah 100%

[sweet crypt]

From gameplay though Torterra is a bit behind the other 2

Like competitive

[supple basalt]

It relies on Shell Smash doesn't it?

[sweet crypt]

For Gen 5 they I think Emboar was the best in a playthrough? But tbh all I do remember about them is that all 3 were mid on release

Contrary fuckinf saved Serperior's ass

[sweet crypt]

Keep in mind, it didn't have Shell Smash yet

[indigo mirage]

I never think about pokemon for competitive

[supple basalt]

The thing that hurts G5 is the same thing that hurts G2 and G8

[sweet crypt]

In fact I think Shell Smash was introduced in Gen 5

[supple basalt]

Monotype starters

[sweet crypt]

And Tort got it in Gen... 9

But hey, it's better than Infernape competitively now!

So that's something

[supple basalt]

Monotype starters are universally very low on people's list of great starters unless its name is Typhlosion

XD

[sweet crypt]

Empoleon is still the best of the trio, and is generally the best of the trio

(Once again from a competitive PoV)

[supple basalt]

Yeah I actually chose Piplup and was not disappointed

[sweet crypt]

Infernape used to be seen as better in older gens but it lowkey fell off

Not even between generations

It fell off as people played the same generations more

Uhh

Gren is far better than Chesnaught competitively

Who is in turn far better than Delphox

Gen 7 has Primarina be easily the best in Singles and Incineroar easily the best in Doubles

Gen 8 has Cinderace and Rillaboom far beyond what Inteleon could ever imagine

So, uh

Yeah Gen 4 was the last time starters were on par with each other I fucking guess

Or at least all good in a playthrough

Since tbh Infernape is generally seen as a lot better in battle than the other 2

Same with Skeledirge

(For a playthrough)

But the other 2 are also great

[supple basalt]

I wish Gamefreak designed all starters equal

I chose Sobble on my Shield playthrough

[broken temple]

i wish gamefreak would stop.

[supple basalt]

Stop what

[broken temple]

existing

🗿

[supple basalt]

Nah

They need to be yeeted to the moon and taken over by people who care

XD

[broken temple]

imagine if pokemon games came out every 5 years
but every game had 100s of hours of content
and didnt cheap out on anything

[sweet crypt]

I've said it multiple times before

[supple basalt]

If only

[sweet crypt]

SV is proof that the issue isn't a lack of shits given

But simply a time constraint

[supple basalt]

They had the time after the game's release to release patches

[sweet crypt]

Idk who the fuck's deciding these deadlines but like can they stop lmao

[supple basalt]

For bug fixes

But no they patched out cheats and made pokemon eyes clothes

[broken temple]

daddy nintendo likes getting money

pokemon games will come out half baked
and people will eat up patches as an excuse

[supple basalt]

There is no time constraints excuse for not releasing bugfix patches

[sweet crypt]

Except they did, didn't they?

At least some of them

Idk I'm not fully certain what all the glitches are on account of never having encountered one apart from like

[supple basalt]

If they did I didn't notice. They removed the item duplication cheat and made it so pokemon eyes closed while asleep

[sweet crypt]

That funny glitch after beating the Sky Titan

That rapidly accelerates time

[supple basalt]

I preordered Violet lol

[broken temple]

preordering games is the worst thing you can do in modern year

[supple basalt]

I haven't heard of that one XD

[supple basalt]

I had the extra money

[broken temple]

even if you are filthy rich

its not about the money

[supple basalt]

I preordered Kingdom Hearts 3 and Little Nightmares 3-

Shit I should check if LN3 DLC is actually out yet

[sweet crypt]

We can tell from this that SV takes place in 2012 from this

Because that is the year that Pucci started accelerating time to reset the universe

(Or something I dunno)

[broken temple]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[sweet crypt]

Anyways chat

Have you ever looked at a Pokedex entry

And then tried to make it make sense?

Because let me tell you, it isn't easy

[broken temple]

i dont know how to read so

no

[sweet crypt]

For example, base Charizard is supposedly able to achieve the same blue flames Zard X does

With the dex stating so

And even giving feats that'd require temperatures that'd cause blue flames

However, you never see it do anything of the sort

Same for Zard Y

So here's my explanation

Comparing Zard and Zard Y's type to Zard X's type, Zard X has a quad resistance to Fire

This implies that it is more heat resistant than the other 2 forms

Perhaps, then, Base and Mega Y do not have the heat resistance to use blue flames for prolonged periods of time without severely burning themselves

After all, you can KO Fire types with Fire moves in games

And the dex does also give other examples of Fire types falling victim to heat

More specifically, Mega Houndoom

[coarse estuary]

ok time to hack my survivors into the crystal leg of my lineagelocke making em all shiny

[cloud lark]

I gave up after Mega Heatran

[sweet crypt]

Fair enough, that one is just inexplicable

[cloud lark]

"This heat keeps enemies at bay." Yeah, I imagine a body temperature of a million degrees Celsius keeps a lot of things away. And also renders the area uninhabitable and causes unspeakable environmental damage

[indigo mirage]

i kinda hate that cus now i have zero reason tom ever use a flying type pokeomon or a water type

does make mono types mroe doable like mono type bug and normel

[supple basalt]

Flying type is not a bad grab tbh

And Water is ALWAYS useful to have

[indigo mirage]

why if i have no reason for surfing with it

[supple basalt]

To use it in battle? Water's a relatively good typing for both defense and offense

[indigo mirage]

the point of getting a water type for my team was so i ahd a waterfall and surf usertr

i can use a ghsot type or somthing insted

[supple basalt]

A lot of water types such as Tentacruel, Vaporeon and Milotic were given scald starting gen 6 or 7

One of those

Which is better than surf since it has a burn chance

[indigo mirage]

i dont think i used anyt of thos guys lol

[supple basalt]

I'm just saying how I play though, you do you

Btw

Surf and Waterfall are still in the games

They jsut aren't used for overworld things like surf

[indigo mirage]

eh but i dont need them anymore for outside battles

[supple basalt]

Not using gyarados? who benefits heavily from a base 80 power STAB move

[indigo mirage]

i never used one

i used lanturn tho

[sweet crypt]

Water is a top tier type tbh

You always have a reason to use one

[indigo mirage]

lanturns fun

[sweet crypt]

Flying's pretty good too but the STAB problem is a pain

Pick your poison, weak inaccurate move, strong inaccurate move or literally nothing

[indigo mirage]

i can use bug flying now tho like buterferee cus i dont need to use fly hm to get around map lol

i love posin and dark types

i always got to use one

malimar in x and y was a fun one to use

[sweet crypt]

I don't concern myself with type diversity too much usually

Most of the time it works out anyways and I still have a decently diverse team

[supple basalt]

Yeah same here. I think I only have one save where I ADAMANTLY refused to repeat types. Outside of it I almost always have dupe typings on my team

[coarse viper]

I will forever repeat types if i have to because i am a father that plays favourites

[cloud lark]

I used to double down on type diversity, but then I built a weather team and my team building mentality completely shifted from that

[random locust]

PERSEPHONE IS SELF AWARE!

[coarse estuary]

insurgence w

[random locust]

I'm getting close to getting delta larvesta so I think I should replace delta bisharp for him

personally

[broken temple]

the only thing i like about insurgence is the gameplay

tbh

[random locust]

i enjoy sweeping people in it exhibit a against persephone:

[random locust]

its story is good

[broken temple]

edgy boring story

[coarse estuary]

insurgence would be so much better if they didnt pull an xy megas and lock 90% of them to post game making it so you have the same 6-9 used ones on playthrough teams

[random locust]

i kinda wish they kept updating it to add more pokemon from later gens in tbh

like if they kept updating it to bring in later mons imagine mega zygarde in this game

[broken temple]

they moved on

[random locust]

which is fair

[broken temple]

game got updates for like 2 years after release if i remember correctly

[coarse estuary]

yeah moved on after they promised a 3.0 version that would make more deltas accessable before post game then promptly shutting away all work on it and never mentioning it again ever

[indigo mirage]

im that one tranner in every game who tells you i use pokemon i like

[broken temple]

deltas ware always "treaky"
they give great types to pokemon that cant use them
or bad types to pokemon with great stats

[random locust]

honestly insurgence is one of those games that i forget about then come back to it after many months and play it again for challenges and then repeat

[broken temple]

never liked that approach

[sweet crypt]

Why did development on Insurgence stop, anyways?

[random locust]

honestly I look at deltas at times question what makes them good then i look at delta volcarona and see its got the most op learnset:

[broken temple]

its clear they played favorites with deltas

instead of giving a 2nd chance to some mons

bad way to approche a "Regional" varient imo

[random locust]

though i do like how they gave us missingno who has somehow one of the most op abilities:

[sweet crypt]

To play devil's advocate here, Dragon isn't good as a non STAB type

[random locust]

yea but its still got an insanely good learnset

[sweet crypt]

Tbh the main thing that catches my attention there is like Aura Sphere

That's good synergy with the type

[random locust]

Can we agree that insurgence has some of the best music though?

[broken temple]

me who played the game on mute

🏃‍♂️

[random locust]

broooo ;-;

ruekra and taen had the best themes ;-;

[broken temple]

i have alot of issues with insurgence
but the one thing i like is the gameplay

thats about it

[random locust]

listen to the battle theme for ruekra it slaps

[sweet crypt]

Fun fact: Reukra's theme is called FATED CATACLYSM

It isn't even that deep

[random locust]

is it not a fanmade theme then or?

[sweet crypt]

From my research, I do believe the composer composed these songs for Insurgence

[random locust]

fair enough

speaking on fanmade stuff i need to continue playing pokemon reborn eventually

[sweet crypt]

Funnily enough, the Gym Leader song in Insurgence is also used for an Undertale Fangame

I do not think the latter use was with the composer's knowledge

Old UT fangames just do that a lot

[coarse estuary]

lol that kinda reminds me how some roblox games use classical pieces as their music so kids think the classical piece is a rip off of roblox

[sweet crypt]

Not even just classical pieces

I've heard of songs from ULTRAKILL (which uses Clair De Lune in its soundtrack funnily enough), Terraria Calamity Mod and The Battle Cats being in there as well

Anyways tbh

Even though the fangames can make good songs for their projects

I think music is the most notable area that fangames have not beaten the mainline games in

[coarse estuary]

welp time for johto. hope the johto leg gives me some unique pairings for my liniagelocke

[sweet crypt]

Partially because it lowkey isn't even close

If it's a Nintendo game, chances are the soundtrack is gonna go unbelievably hard

There's also the part where a lot of romhacks and a good number of fangames too do use tracks from base Pokemon

Or pre-existing remixes of tracks from base Pokemon

[coarse estuary]

that i can understand. what i cant understand is using a fan made track for a fan project but then not getting the permission of the creator of that track to be allowed to use that track in their game

[supple basalt]

Sleepy alpha pokemon

[coarse estuary]

i wish i liked legends arceus but its one of those one and done games for me

[supple basalt]

I have a weird amount of fun with it. It's got my favorite gameplay out of any pokemon game.

[coarse estuary]

i just dont like how its main gimic is catching mons/doing research tasks or you simply cant progress

[supple basalt]

But that's what makes it fun. The Pokedex is more interactive. JRPGs are usually filled with goodies but Pokemon is often lacking in that department

The Pokedex is never anything in any of the other games except something to see a funny entry or an area the mon is found

I thought the journal was cute. These people are still learning about pokemon and your research tasks help move the story and help them learn

My only gripe about PLA is everyone in Jubilife throwing you to the dirt out of nowhere

[coarse estuary]

tbh ive never liked catching more mons than i need to. i find it so boring. i much prefer catching the 6 i wanna use + any hm slaves id need to get optional side items or to progress in the game

[supple basalt]

I've always loved filling my boxes

[coarse estuary]

guess we are just opposites

[supple basalt]

Zacian died with the quality of this game

XD

I legit think Sw/Sh looks so much better than S/V. The plot isn't good but I love the graphics

[plucky cypress]

doing a black and white nuzlock, and look what poped up during the catching tutorial

patrat was my first encounter and my partner insisted on this name

[tardy anchor]

How good is Rayquaza with Nasty Plot as the egg move?

[tardy anchor]

Goated Luck or wot?

[sweet crypt]

Personally, I'm not a fan since I prefer physical sets

But I know some people who swear by the special sets

[broken temple]

i associate rayquaza with physical even if he got a respectable special stat

[sweet crypt]

I think Nasty Plot's a change from what I last remembered

But idk from what

Holy shit they're planning on giving Cherrim infinite Drought + Chlorophyll lmao

Looking at the balance changes, yeah they make sense

Nerfing some of the batshit insane mfs like Heatran

And buffing some of the more struggle picks like Base Zard

Usually I'd never think of running Zard

Because I have to use Base Zard

Who is a bit lacking

Idk if these changes are live yet though

Can anyone check if Zard still has Beast Boost as a passive?

OK found some live changes

Rayquaza has lost Oblivion Wing in exchange for Nasty Plot

I guess the devs figured that both at the same time wouldn't be balanced?

Lugia is losing Oblivion Wing as a nerf, so it actually will have to run Recover now (I always ran Recover anyways so I don't care all that much)

A lot of pending changes for when ZA megas get added it seems

Flamigo nerf seems pretty big until you realise that Vdance was replaced with Aqua Step and you still have Moxie

So you're still spamming Speed and Attack boosts anyways

Ting-Lu nerf is pretty big but it'll manage because it's mf Ting-Lu

They're making Tinkaton into more of a support Pokemon in line with base Pokemon

All of the Torque moves are being removed from anything not named Revavroom it seems

Yo why does Orbeetle have Cosmic Power Tail Glow now

Wait I might need to use Orbeetle this shit's fire

Why the fuck did Mudbray have Thousand Waves as the rare

Bro already had EQ and High Horsepower by level up

Well it's gone now so who cares

Major Poopa nerf, they removed Shell Smash from it

Makes sense since Poopa was quite too strong

Ho-Oh loses Magic Guard and Bolt Beak but gains Serene Grace

So Sacred Fire is a 100% burn move now

Yo Dragon Ascent on Aerodactyl?

Let 'em cook

[supple basalt]

Good thing I'm done using Zacian

Lol

But that's a huge nerf

[sweet crypt]

Hmm... actually seems like Zacian was spared from this change

[supple basalt]

Oh okay

[sweet crypt]

In fact, the removal of Torques wasn't quite as widespread as I thought

[supple basalt]

Oh who's keeping them?

Aside from Rev

[sweet crypt]

It's mainly only Magical and Combat Torque, and even then some of the users of Magical and Combat Torque kept them

Not so sure why they removed it from Bulu and let Zacian keep it

But uhh

[supple basalt]

I need to play pokerogue but I've been preoccupied with infinite fusions and beta testing IF Hoenn and Flightrising and Xanje

XD

[supple basalt]

Probably because Zacian doesn't learn the only physical fairy move naturally

Well not the only one, but the only one it's able to learn not through an eggo move

[sweet crypt]

Tapu Bulu has a grand total of 0 (0) Physical Fairy moves

Period

Full stop

[supple basalt]

Wait really?

[sweet crypt]

Well, outside of Pokerogue

Pokerogue gives it Play Rough via egg move

But yeah they gave Play Rough to Lele and Fini

But not Koko and Bulu

[supple basalt]

That's dumb

[sweet crypt]

Which means both Koko and Bulu have 0 Physical Fairy moves

Despite also being the 2 Physical Tapus

Lele and Fini have Moonblast btw

And I don't think either Koko or Bulu do

[supple basalt]

I've never used the Tapus outside Rogue so yeah that's news to me

[sweet crypt]

So Lele and Fini just stole all the good Fairy moves from them I fucking guess

I know Koko doesn't use Moonblast

Because it has 0 good Physical moves

And thus has to run Special sets even though it's a physical attacker

And even then it has to run fucking Dazzling Gleam

[glacial plinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314202537674674176/1472644016389755128/image0.jpg?ex=6993521d&is=6992009d&hm=9c5a2cb37570e58643fe6c7f517ebfa5120bf5477ee2e2aa80d5154a4ef49a07&

[broken temple]

dog

[coarse viper]

Depends in the context, pure 1v1 or some setup is allowed

[cloud lark]

God of time when hunger seed

[coarse viper]

God of time cuz stats be stating

[glacial plinth]

According to Mystery Dungeon, dog wins

[true wind]

dog becuase of type advantage

[cinder iron]

Dog because of dog advantage

[brisk hedge]

The dog isn’t alone though

[glacial plinth]

He is accompanied by John Wick

[coarse estuary]

gym 1 of my hack down

[terse dagger]

It took me 3 weeks but I finally got one yippeee

[silver forge]

its unknown if its shiny. lol

[waxen bane]

Bro's name is Bluen

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-meme-tom-and-jerry-meme-jerry-points-get-a-load-of-this-guy-this-guy-gif-11384860625931393733

[terse dagger]

I have like 20 gastlys sitting on my Arceus box, 2 being alphas from this hunt 😭

[waxen bane]

I can't remember, is Home up for ZA yet? You could at least have a cool shiny Mega Gengar

[terse dagger]

Za is not on home yet sadly, but I will when it is

[waxen bane]

It's been four months broooo

They gotta set it up for Pokemon Day like c'mon now

[terse dagger]

Even if I already have the whole line of Gastly in it, mostly cause of the shiny living dex I'm doin :p

[mossy spade]

Do I buy omega ruby for 50 or super mystery dungeon for 30?

[sweet crypt]

I want to do a funny themed run

In Pokerogue to clarify

But first, I need to do runs of Nidoking, Arcanine and Dhelmise to get their costs lowered

Just because I want to see if anyone can guess it, the other Pokemon are Vaporeon, Slowbro and Zebstrika

[sweet crypt]

Nidoking has been very disappointing so far

It isn't doing particularly well rn

And I'm only at 70

[sweet crypt]

I am gonna fucking crash out if this blind ass Nidoking misses 1 more Precipice Blades

I HAVE 2 WIDE LENSES

STOP MISSING

Well it performs pretty well once I'm actually landing hits at least

[brisk hedge]

“If it’s not 100% accurate it’s 50% accurate”
John Michael Wingull Groth

[sweet crypt]

Arcanine may be the worst Pokemon I've ever used

In Pokerogue

But to be fair to it, I don't have all its unlocks yet

So maybe Sacred Fire would make it not as much of a C+ fraud

[sweet crypt]

Seems like RK9 has a better late game than early game

[sweet crypt]

Ngl I have even less good feelings about Dhelmise

[sweet crypt]

Yup

This is miserable

I am in hell

[sweet crypt]

Linoone is doing better than Dhelmise

This run is so scuffed

FURRET is doing better than Dhelmise

[sweet crypt]

Lowkey Dhelmise with 4 Leftovers is worse than itemless Fini

The only good part about this run is that I'm only doing it for candy to do a themed run

As soon as I get like 8 more Candy I can end it prematurely

This is the full team, now to see if anyone can guess it

I don't think Dhelmise is quite F tier

But it is definitely the worst thing I've used by far

Like let's say it's D tier

Where D tier is hot garbage

Well, F tier would be like

Cold, stale garbage

Performing worse than Linoone and Furret in battle when both of these are support mons is not a good look

[smoky gyro]

Bruh-

[slender jay]

Which of these dudes can learn psychic moves

[upbeat notch]

wtf-

Couldve swore altaria can learn psychic lmaoo

florges it is

[inland crane]

Kingambit learns Zen Headbutt by TM

[slender jay]

Oh lol

Ima need to craft some tms

I need to defeat the last star boss

My second run

I used pokemon home lol

[slender jay]

I defeated eri now all thats left is cassiopeia arven and victory road

[sweet crypt]

Why wouldn't you just

Use STAB SE Fairy moves with Florges?

[delicate hollow]

What if Meganium Typhlosion and Feraligatr got a secondary typing what would they be?
Typhlosion would almost always add Ground typing but this is pre Legends ZA and for rom hacks/fan games

[sweet crypt]

Typhlosion's name lowkey makes it feel like they were planning to make it another Fire/Flying type

And even though none of that exists in the current design it's pretty funny

I mean Typhlosion's name is literally Typhoon Explosion

[slender jay]

I farmed blissey and chansey for xp i am a bit overleveled now lol

I defeated the boss easily

[coarse estuary]

ok did some more tweaking and editing. we have done everything upto chargestone cave except bianca fight and the trainers on route 6 and chargestone cave

[hard plume]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1o5rm5m/pokemon_budgets_leaked_pokémon_legends_za_2/
just gonna throw this here

[coarse estuary]

oh cool a deleted post that i cant read

[cloud lark]

Don't leaks fall under rule 9 nowadays anyway?

[hard plume]

this is more about the business side of things

[hard plume]

https://web.archive.org/web/20251013211728/https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1o5rm5m/pokemon_budgets_leaked_pokémon_legends_za_2/
never underestimate the power of the internet archive

[tardy anchor]

Can anyone suggest the best Randomizer ROM for Fire red or Emerald?

[coarse estuary]

?Tag rule6

[ebon pond]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 6 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Resources to illegal content (ROMs, pirated movies, etc). We are sure that there are ways and means of finding these that do not involve a Pokémon Fan Game discord server.

[inland crane]

Pokemon Gen 10: 3 billion yen (approx. $20 million)
💔

Well if it is not full and part of the budget it makes sense. But this is less than games considered indie. And also Gen 9 itself too I suppose?

[coarse estuary]

2 gyms the e4 and remaining manditory fights left and version 1.0 of my hack will be completed

[atomic harbor]

AHHHHH!!!

[coarse estuary]

ok the full first version of the hack is completed. once i complete a nuzlocke of it i will release it to the beta testers

[upbeat notch]

Should i change one member for a volcarona? Asking doubles advice

[tardy anchor]

Hey how do I increase my points cap from 10 to 15 in pokerouge?

[sweet crypt]

Play Endless

Otherwise, you cannot raise the point cap, you can only decrease point cost

Speaking of Pokerogue

I need 3 fucking evo stones on this themed run

And since one of my Pokemon is Eevee

I can get worthless Evo Stones

And of course

The first 2 Evo Stones I get are worthless

Water Stone Obtained, Eevee has been evolved

Now I need a Moon Stone for Nidorino and a Fire Stone for Growlithe

And the worthless Thunder, Leaf and Ice Stones are no longer in the item pool

Instant next wave Fire Stone

My luck has turned around

I MISSED 5 TURNS IN A ROW WITH 100% ACCURATE MOVES BECAUSE OF FOG

I am at peril of losing to Swampert now

Managed to pull out a win despite that awful showing of RNG

I am gravely underleveled now though

[sweet crypt]

Nothing like missing a 95% accurate move 4 TIMES IN A FUCKING ROW

This game hates me :(

The last thing I needed when using a bunch of B tier Pokemon with low synergy is F tier luck

Actually Slowbro's probably like A or A- tier idk

But all the vitamins I'm getting are Proteins and Carboses that are worthless on it

[tardy anchor]

Oh

Btw what's the chance to get Red shiny in wild?

[sweet crypt]

Basically, whenever you get a shiny, a secondary calculation is run

10% of the time, it'll generate a Red Shiny instead of a Yellow or Blue

I forgot the odds for the base shiny and the blue shiny though

Nidoking is doing that thing again

Where it sells early game

But picks up steam late game

That's incredibly bizarre

Run is complete, I wonder if anyone can guess what the theme of this run is since there is actually one

Yo why tf does Keldeo get Grim Neigh lmao

[brisk hedge]

Does it have anything to do with the shinys being pure typed and the not shines being dual typed?

[sweet crypt]

No I just didn't have shinies for Nidoking, Dhelmise or Slowbro

Funny coincidence though

[cloud lark]

Fangame balancing in a nutshell

[sweet crypt]

A good portion of Pokemon in Pokerogue are broken anyways

In the context of a normal Pokemon game

And tbh I feel like Grim Neigh Keldeo would still be broken in the context of Pokerogue

[raw quest]

my pokerogue runs always get scewed over by back to back bosses(like boss trainers) between floors 112-175
😭

its always like
2 in a row

but I also only have one pokemon with a perfected nature, abilities and better stats

so it carries my team for most of the run

[sweet crypt]

The only boss trainers in that range are the Evil Team Leaders at 115 and 165, the Rival at 145, potential events like the Stat Trainer and Gym Leaders at either 120 and 150 or 140 and 170

There are other trainers in that range but they aren't bosses

And the only guaranteed ones are at 112, 114 and 164

[raw quest]

nah Ive had the literal chairman and then the admin lady in a row compltele end my run before

back to back

I start getting really bad luck once I hit 112

but I will say
Pokerogue has definately determined Luxray as one of my absolute favorite pokemon due to how broken I can make it each playthrough lmao

[sweet crypt]

That'd be 164 and 165

But I don't really consider the admins to be bosses

And also that isn't bad RNG

That's literally scripted

[raw quest]

I mean luck when it comes to the items and such

the random ones you chose from

[sweet crypt]

Typically the strategy I use is that I try to make my teams literally impossible to lose with even with bad RNG

Translated: I use Tapu Fini

[raw quest]

thats good.
Luxray is my only fully upgraded mon (with the exception of not having a shiny of it 😭 )
it is broken OP but can only do so much when the rest of my team are literally dragging it down by having bad natures and IVs

I have some legends but they are expensive to take in.
I try to go with 3 pokemon to start with type diversity to not have the run end by the second rival fight XD

[sweet crypt]

Hmm

I'm a pretty big fan of Flamigo in Pokerogue when fully upgraded

They did recently nerf it by removing Victory Dance but it still ramps its stats like crazy with Aqua Step and Moxie

[raw quest]

ohhh I see

I dont think I have that one yet but it sounds worth using
I had one in my violet playthrough
very solid mon

[sweet crypt]

Make sure that you have Scrappy as the base ability as it is easily Flamigo's best

[raw quest]

Ill keep an eye out for it and try to catch it or hope it comes from an egg
The great thing about pokerogue is that you dont have to complete a run in order to upgrade mons
you just have to hope you can get soothe bells 🤣

[coarse estuary]

ok so far ive been through 3 gyms in my hack and so far the only deaths have been the 2 encounters ive killed no deaths of mons ive caught. probs will start getting deaths once i do cheren battle on route 4

[oak oriole]

Hey guys, I have a question, I'm nuzlocke-ing another fan game, and there's a location that has 7 static encounters. Should I threat them ALL as such? or should I impose a forced 1 only rule for myself?

[coarse estuary]

up to you. its your run so what you decide to do with the rules for that are up to you. any clauses that dont break the main two rules are up to the runners interpritation

[oak oriole]

don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE 7 extra mons, but that also feels a bit cheap? XD

[coarse estuary]

if the game is hard id say abuse it any way you can especally if its a game that is designed to be as unfair toward the player as possible

[oak oriole]

that's a good way of looking at it... Thank you!

[coarse estuary]

no prob. i just know some games are made in a way that is unfair to players where gym 1 is full of really strong mons that are really hard to deal with or they just estrict the mons the players can get then give every npc megas or legends or stuff

[unborn granite]

Slime.

[raw quest]

So uh
I spoke too soon lmao

[tardy anchor]

Triple axel is pretty good on Luxray since it helps with its grass weakness

[tardy anchor]

I finally got her but don't have an egg move for her

So I'll use her after getting a couple of good egg moves

[carmine atlas]

/vote
How's it going guys. Which Pokemon Emulator is the best?

Pokemon Pink (Gameboy Edition)
or
Pokemon Recharged Pink (Gameboy Advance Edition)

[smoky gyro]

Does Unaware ignore Proto/Whatever the electric terrain one is called?

[raw quest]

On pokerogue my luxray just swept the chairman on the level 165 lol

[sweet crypt]

Nice RNG from eggs today, I got HA Nidoran, Red Shiny Magnemite and Aerodactyl's Rare Egg Move

[sweet crypt]

Oh they added Bede as an E4

And added a new challenge too

This new challenge automatically enables all Passives

Which means Eternatus now has Neutralising Gas

Which is rather concerning

The funniest part is

None of this matters

Because I'm just gonna use my own Eternatus now that I think about it

[coarse viper]

Lets goo first time reaching lvl 1000

[raw quest]

BRO YEAH
I got Type:Null from an egg and using it on my team I was able to beat the game for the first time lol

[hard plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y41mkUkix8
hi my name is dying of cuteness

[raw quest]

Silvally and Luxray the true MVPs
Couldnt have done the last battle without any of them (Except blastiose, but he got us out of some rough situations late game)
Being able to switch enough and time Gardevior's Future sights and keep Luxray from getting attacked were the key to beating Eternatus

and they said you couldn't beat this game with your favorites XD(Well except you Blastoise)

[sweet crypt]

Eternamax is not needed, for Eternatus by itself is more than enough to carry the entire run on its back

The only Pokemon I brought apart from Eternatus were support Pokemon and the only ones that even had an effect on the run were the 3 Pickup mons

But at the end of the day, even those aren't needed

This is why if anyone ever tells you Eternatus is not worth 10 cost (8 when Cost Down is maxed out), you laugh at them

I didn't even use Tera btw

That's Active Passives done

Now I need to beat the shit out of Bede as an E4 member

So basically, do a ton of Galar runs

AKA: More Eternatus

[coarse viper]

Personally I am trying to knock out the endless mode trophies got a few down by now

[real knoll]

Is shiny up the better gacha ?

Cuz it hasn't been blessing me lately

[coarse viper]

I save them and do the legendary pull only when something I want is up

I got more shinies from there than in the shiny gatcha lol

[sweet crypt]

I've already gotten those down

[real knoll]

I really want that rayquaza

[sweet crypt]

IMO, it's the worst

[real knoll]

I kinda feel you

[sweet crypt]

Luck is far more inconsequential than a Rare Egg Move or a strong Legendary

[real knoll]

4 5 commons in a row is crazy

OK I'm opening for rayquazu a couple anyways

[sweet crypt]

I always roll on Legendary Banner if it has a legendary I don't have all egg moves for, otherwise I roll Rare Egg Move Banner

[real knoll]

Shiny up gave me a leg and it was zamazenta😭

Wasn't shiny aswell

[real knoll]

God kartana is so good

[median moat]

Which pokesweet version is better? The original Cupras or my design Cupras

[indigo mirage]

whats this pokemon hollow woods thing i jsut heard about\

[sweet crypt]

I just saw someone complain that Pokerogue didn't give Nasty Plot to Sceptile, Samurott or Serperior

For reference, Sceptile already did get Nasty Plot, Samurott got Shell Smash and Serperior is a Contrary abuser

They also said Roar of Time is an amazing move and superior to Core Enforcer

Pokerogue fans are not beating the "Never played Pokemon before" allegations

[indigo mirage]

im more annyoyed seedot dont ahve explostion or somthing

[cloud lark]

Calling Roar of Time a superior damaging move to anything that isn't Bide is certainly a take

[tardy anchor]

Ahm playing this pokemon ROM hack and a random npc just gave me all the Kanto pokemon's first stage shiny form for free

And I got a Riolu holding a Lucarionite

[sweet crypt]

I see

[tardy anchor]

As the first pokemon before even my starter

[sweet crypt]

Nevermind, I'm blind, WHAT?

[tardy anchor]

Yeahh

And a bedrill with its mega item

☠️

This game is crazy

Ngl the story is awesome

[cloud lark]

At that rate the game will give you Mega Rayquaza before gym 3

[coarse viper]

I love my little alien

[granite saffron]

That's... A bit overleveled

[coarse viper]

No its not.
Just around 300

It will be easier if enemies dont just randomly freaking endure the one one tap

Then physical strike my boy down

[granite saffron]

Huh

[coarse viper]

Yeah after a certain floor they just start enduring and they hit hard if they dont flinch

And when it comes to physical attacks my boy gets folded

[granite saffron]

Huh

Is... Is it a fun ROM hack?

[coarse viper]

Its called PokeRogue its online on browsers and for free

And yeah its pretty fun

[granite saffron]

Ah

[broken temple]

me when my pokemon go rouge

[coarse viper]

Welp failed at floor 1000 got all achievements in Endless I think (unless the question mark achievement is tied to that) a Reshiram, Stakataka and a few shinies

So I will say it went decent

[granite saffron]

good job

[tardy anchor]

How are you playing it on phone?

I try that and the screen like bugs out in a weird state

[tardy anchor]

Ngl Pokerogue is like my third favourite pokemon fangame/ROM

[static shoal]

Hi

Im looking for a ditto in pokemon sword

[granite saffron]

middle of the lake at one of the two large wild parts

[indigo mirage]

guys whatr this hollow wood game?

[coarse viper]

I used the add to home screen feature the browser has
While it can still bug out sometimes it aint as bad

[broken temple]

useally when it bugs out i just need to flip and unflip the screen

used to fix it on my phone alot

[tardy anchor]

I see

[granite cloud]

hot take: gen 2 shiny charizard is cooler than gen 3+ shiny charizard

[supple basalt]

Gimme purple dragon

[granite cloud]

the more i look at this the more i think of nes ridley and meta ridley if his wings were red

[stuck hatch]

Have you guys tried Pokemon Blaze online?

[brisk hedge]

Hot take, they’re both ass since Charizard is ass

[supple basalt]

It's not lol

Actually

I take it back

I dislike Charizard. But I love its shinies

[brisk hedge]

You can live. For now…

https://tenor.com/view/put-gun-into-pocket-mr-stendahl-jungle-captive-hide-the-gun-finish-using-gun-gif-18798545

[sweet crypt]

I have no strong feelings towards Charizard or Shinies as a whole

[coarse estuary]

the johto leg of my lineage locke has been defeated. the final parings and the 6 mons moving into leg 3 are abbb2 the lapras who was paired with blaze the typhlosion, rose2 the venusaur who was paired with jello the quagsire and, jj2 the alakazam paired with von2 the pidgeot. going into leg 3 none of these mons can be paired with their partners from leg 2 in leg 3

[crimson musk]

Beat the mainstory in Scarlet/Violet +

[amber basin]

Started playing RelicT, wanted to see if y'all know the shiny chances? I got this on my fifth floor first try.

[tardy anchor]

uff am so in love with this Maganadel shiny

The orange and blue goes so hard

[vital flare]

So pokerogue is working?

[tardy anchor]

Yeah?

[vital flare]

I guess I'm just randomly having issues need to recheck it again

[coarse estuary]

taking a break from nuzlocking to do a casual run of my fave game bw1. ima start by shiny hunting a starter

[unkempt linden]

I agree with you, as a purple Yoshi lover, I love purple shinies

[granite cloud]

you guys heard about frlg on switch 2?

[cloud lark]

From what I've read about it, it's also another "Mario 30" thing where the games will be delisted around July

[coarse estuary]

de listed as anyone who bought them wont be able to play them or delisted as in the 3d alstars thing where once its past nobody can buy them again

[steep moss]

does anyone have pokemon lets go? i need mewtwo for my shiny charm

ill trade it back just need for entry

[coarse estuary]

why wont you just catch it in your game?

[cloud lark]

Seems to be the second one