#other-pokemon-games

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sweet crypt
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Why do you need more than 999 Pokeballs though

inland crane
sweet crypt
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You do probably need more than 1 for the legendaries though

unkempt egret
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late but for respawning legends I think platinum was what added that, no luck on shinies though in any game outside of a very niche situation in GO

sweet crypt
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Bro wtf the rival has Larvesta, Corviknight and Indeedee on this Venusaur run so far

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And I still solod

smoky gyro
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Why was larvesta any relevant

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Its...a larvesta

sweet crypt
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It also incinerated a berry

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Which makes me very sad

smoky gyro
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Venu is part poison

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Click sludge bomb-

sweet crypt
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At the very least I haven't gotten it yet

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I could just have used Malignant Chain since I'm playing Pokerogue but I did not have PP lmao

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Did not matter

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Since Incinerate did jack shit

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And I have a bunch of Pickup mons to steal items off the corpses of my enemies

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Not sure how I didn't have a leppa berry considering how many leppa berries Pickup strats usually get

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I am very early in the run tbf

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So I guess that's how

modern oar
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I may be responding very late, but I haven't played it I just remember it is a difficulty rom hack.

unkempt egret
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Ballin'

modern oar
delicate hollow
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Light platinum I wish got a new update to finally add physical/special split

hybrid sandal
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Quick Question I wanted to ask, are the recent Shiny Miraidon and Koraidon codes only useable for each game specifically?
Like if you use the code in Scarlet you can only get a Shiny Koraidon, and if you use the code in Violet you only get a Shiny Miraidon

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is that how it works when you use the codes?

warm rose
hybrid sandal
warm rose
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oh

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Didnt even see that

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hold on

hybrid sandal
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lol it's fine

warm rose
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If in scarlet -> miraidon

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if in violet -> koraidon

hybrid sandal
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THANK you

warm rose
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You get the one from the opposite version

hybrid sandal
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appreciate getting the confirmation

warm rose
hybrid sandal
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(I have both games so I'm glad to hear that's how it works)

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Thanks mate

warm rose
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No problem here's cat

warm rose
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-# um sorry but i don't really accept random friend requests (not anymore)

hybrid sandal
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ah sorry

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My bad XD

warm rose
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not a problem!!

hybrid sandal
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Mhm mhm. Hope you have a great day mate ^_^

warm rose
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Thanks u too !!

delicate hollow
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No way shiny koraidon and miraidon are supposed to be shiny when you find and catch them?
I thought that event was meant for shiny hunting them NOT recieve them as gifts

wild ore
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Won like yesterday?

terse pollen
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Nice run

vital bramble
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if I was going to make probopass less bad I would make it so the first time it gets hit applies power shift to it like a walmart aegislash

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thank you for coming to my ted talk

lavish dune
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yeah aight

terse pollen
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Delectable

modern oar
lavish dune
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heyoooo

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the early run luck is strong today

terse pollen
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Poggers

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Shiny Wooloo is pretty nice

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But Dubwool is kind of ugly

lavish dune
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its another shiny option, all i can ask for

terse pollen
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Trying to use a Pidgeotte in pokerogue got me suffering

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This pokemon is so ass until it mega evolves

lavish dune
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slow boi

lavish dune
terse pollen
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Never liked fearow

terse pollen
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😭

dreamy bough
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leveling in insurgence is a pain

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so rare candies...

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so sweet

smoky gyro
dreamy bough
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I know

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dw

quasi dagger
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shiny lumineon is so fire

smoky gyro
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Would look better if it was pink

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Imo

lavish dune
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piss fish

astral quartz
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I am really annoyed rn. I ran from lavender tower in (base) pkmn blue trying to get to fuchsia to heal, only pkmn is a paralyzed lvl 37 venusaur on 18 health, no heals. Didn’t make it to fuchsia, ran out of mega drain pp.

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So now I gotta restart that trek from lavender town

thick geyser
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Any of yall know a good version of Pokemon Y or Pokemon Sun and Moon
That I can play on Pc?

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Also, any good pc pokemon fan games, other than Salt and Shadow

smoky gyro
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In 16:20 what did he mean by guts isnt active?

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We're back for Week 2 of the WDL and the Melbourne Rotoms are taking on @shadypenguinn and the NY Mankeys! Shady is one of my main inspirations on YouTube & contributed a ton to VGC's growth back during the 2015 era, bridging the gap between casual Pokemon fans and VGC. He's got a scary draft centered around Trick Room with Pokemon like Indeedee...

▶ Play video
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Isnt guts just an attack buff the moment you get statused?

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Is there a turn delay?

sweet crypt
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I'm pretty sure that it activates instantly on Showdown, which means either Showdown is wrong or Cybertron is wrong. Not sure which is the case, since Cybertron is a pro but so are many of Showdown's players who should notice that this is not working as intended

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Either that or it does work like that on Showdown and I'm dumb

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I can teat this actually hold up

smoky gyro
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It doesnt make sense for it to not activate immediately though

sweet crypt
smoky gyro
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I mean you would never really know UNLESS its side willo or opponent willoing you

sweet crypt
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I guess it's possible that it worked that way in Gen 6 and earlier

smoky gyro
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Cause with flame orb it always only matters on the NEXT turn

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Also kinda interesting that an ability shield slaking if it gets truant, then weezing dies, it gets truant again

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2 turns in a row

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I definitely feel like thats a bug

sweet crypt
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Guts does activate instantly after getting statused in Gen 9 Showdown

smoky gyro
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Yeah

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It makes sense that it would

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If youre interested in pvp this vid was kinda interesting to watch

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So many interesting interactions

sweet crypt
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Also does in earlier gens

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So yeah either Cybertron is wrong or Showdown is wrong

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No clue which one it is, and since Ursaluna used Substitute on that turn we can't check

smoky gyro
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I mean side willo isnt that common

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Actually wait I get it now

sweet crypt
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Yeah this doesn't really matter unless like

smoky gyro
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Its not because of burn its because of neutralizing gas

sweet crypt
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You accidentally status a Guts mon with a secondary effect

smoky gyro
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Duh

sweet crypt
smoky gyro
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Im stupid

sweet crypt
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Wait why would the specification be "this turn" then

smoky gyro
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No idea

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Maybe he intended to pivot weezing or smth

sweet crypt
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Self Will-O is cool though

smoky gyro
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Very cool

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Lets you run smth else on ursa

sweet crypt
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Ngl my ass didn't even realise Geezer was on the field because I wasn't paying attention

smoky gyro
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Theres a slaking on field-

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No one uses slaking without weezing

smoky gyro
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Uhhh

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Is disguise not trace-able?

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No the mikyu isnt broken yet

sweet crypt
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Only Mimikyu can have it, and I'm sure if you hacked something else to have it it wouldn't work

smoky gyro
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That alone screwed up my own gameplan

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Bruh

sweet crypt
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The only thing that gets through Disguise is Mold Breaker and its clones and Moongeist Beam and its clones

smoky gyro
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What about uhh

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Whats the name

sweet crypt
smoky gyro
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Cofagrigus

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Does that work

sweet crypt
smoky gyro
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Mummy thats it

sweet crypt
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Neither does Lingering Aroma

smoky gyro
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You cant mummy override it?

sweet crypt
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Or Wandering Spirit

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Or Skill Swap

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Or Neutralising Gas

smoky gyro
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I dont know what the first 2 does

sweet crypt
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Or Role Play

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Or Worry Seed

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Or Gastro Acid

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Or Simple Beam

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Or Entrainment, or Doodle

smoky gyro
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Simple beam is a thing?

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What

sweet crypt
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You get the point

smoky gyro
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Most of these I know

sweet crypt
smoky gyro
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That seems

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Absurdly broken

sweet crypt
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Sounds way too specific for Single Battles though like you'd need a good Intimidater for it to actually work

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And if your opponent switches like

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Iron Valiant

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Into the Simple Beam

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You basically just lose

smoky gyro
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I was gonna ask a stupid question and then I realized how stupid it was

sweet crypt
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Like sure it won't have Quark Drive but what it would have is +4 Attack in a single turn

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Well actually this is a bad comparison

smoky gyro
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I was gonna ask "does it work on defiant and make intimate -2 and then defiant +4"

sweet crypt
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Because Quark Drive also is immune to all these things

smoky gyro
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But then I realized how dumb that is

sweet crypt
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Except Neutralising Gas, I think that one actually does work

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Not entirely sure why it's immune to ability swapping though

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So a better example is like, Zamazenta, who is all of a sudden at +5 Defence

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I'm pretty sure Dauntless Shield can be replaced, at least

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I guess you could use this to remove Dnite's Multiscale

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But you also just gave it a free +2

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In both Attack and Speed

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So like

smoky gyro
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I wonder what the most broken combination is if a pokemon could have 2 abilities

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Not counting the as one because thats stupid

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I feel like contrary simple would be REALLY scary

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Especially on actually strong damage dealers like bolt

sweet crypt
smoky gyro
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Isnt that higher than deoxys a

sweet crypt
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Highest raw Attack stat of any Non-Mega

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And including Megas I think only 2 get higher

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Heracross and MMX

smoky gyro
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Wtf is mmx

sweet crypt
smoky gyro
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Oh mewtwo

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I realized afterwards

sweet crypt
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Their effective attacks stats are still lower than the likes of Mega Mawile and Koraidon though

smoky gyro
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Wheres medicham in all this

sweet crypt
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Koraidon with Orichalcum Pulse and Mega Mawile with Huge Power

sweet crypt
smoky gyro
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Oof

sweet crypt
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But it's still more than enough to eclipse everything that isn't Mawile

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Effortlessly, when you consider EVs and IVs also get doubled

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And even without EVs and IVs it'd still be slightly higher than 200 base Attack

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Stat calculation is a bit funky

smoky gyro
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100 base speed is not half bad either

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God damn

sweet crypt
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I dont want to include abilities that only boost a specific type of attack

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But if I do, Araquanid joins the list too iirc

wild ore
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Hey latios btw I won on Saturday again

sweet crypt
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That team is fucking stacked actually

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Like Mega Ttar probably solos Eternatus itself

wild ore
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No sadly

sweet crypt
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Definitely does with egg moves

wild ore
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But I found a route with meta gross that let me get through first phase with no dmg

wild ore
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I would use agility since eternatus used cosmic power or sum

sweet crypt
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Tbf I guess Egg Moveless Ttar can't even heal itself lmao

wild ore
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Then zen headbutt would flinch

sweet crypt
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Recovery is so fucking broken

wild ore
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Then for 2nd phase

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I just spammed dire claw and got sleep

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And crazily close combat did a whole bar of dmg

sweet crypt
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I'd imagine that's with a crit

wild ore
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No

sweet crypt
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I see you have a Dire Hit and 2 Black Belts

wild ore
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Pure raw close combat

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I never hit a crit

sweet crypt
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Interesting

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How many Soul Dews?

wild ore
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None

sweet crypt
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I guess I'm underestimating the 40% Black Belt boost then

wild ore
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Stab makes it a 90% boost

sweet crypt
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Usually I get either 0 type boosting item or like

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50 morbillion

wild ore
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Cus stab is a 50% boost right?

sweet crypt
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I never get the in between

sweet crypt
wild ore
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O

sweet crypt
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So not exactly 90% boost

wild ore
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Mhm

sweet crypt
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And I usually wouldn't say 90% anyways

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I'd say 40% STAB

wild ore
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Ok

sweet crypt
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But that's more preference than anything

wild ore
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Wait isn’t it a 1.5 multiplier for a move of stab?

sweet crypt
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Your Close Combats would have had 252 Power

wild ore
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Yez

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Big dmg

sweet crypt
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The 1.5 multiplier is also multiplying your 1.4 from the Black Belt

wild ore
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I THINK I had Tera’d into fighting?

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Aswell

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But idk

sweet crypt
wild ore
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Holy shit

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But yea

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Drain punch was like 142 power with no Tera I think

sweet crypt
wild ore
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Damn

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Drain punch is the bomb

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Close combat is the nuke

sweet crypt
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Like I said, the 1.4 from 2 Black Belts should stack multiplicatively and not additively with STAB

sweet crypt
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I think my most absurd run was with Zacian

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Where I got like

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10 Fairy Feathers

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And since I'm Fairy type I just overleveled anyways

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Eternatus didn't know what hit it

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It's either that or the Meloetta run with like 12 or so Silk Scarves

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Spamming the shit out of Boomburst

wild ore
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I hate how I had to give my 2 wide lens from flamigo to metagross to have a consistent good steel/psychic move

sweet crypt
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They removed Boomburst since then, probably because it's broken as fuck

wild ore
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I don’t know why meteor mash and zen headbutt have 90 accuracy

sweet crypt
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Not BST

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Power

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It ain't even BP like I was trying to type

sweet crypt
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Because BP is base power and the base power is 140

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If you're too lazy to do the math with STAB, that's a grand total of 504 Power

wild ore
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eternatus getting his ass whooped

sweet crypt
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It was probably slightly less than that

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But it was close, that's what I remember

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Wait... did I do the math wrong?

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Shit I did uhh

wild ore
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My problem is that I don’t have many GOOD pokemon with GOOD egg moves

sweet crypt
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Wait did I?

sweet crypt
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My brain is not working rn lmfao

wild ore
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I started a run with chimchar uhhhh then turtwig Mudkip and my t3 shiny zigzagoat

sweet crypt
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Yeah wait I did do the math wrong lmao

wild ore
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Turtwig has stone axe and ice spinner as its egg moves

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And mudkip has mountain gale

sweet crypt
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Boomburst was actually 476 Power (714 with STAB)

sweet crypt
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Silk Scarves are very common even when you aren't looking for them

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So I guess it's to be expected that when I started looking for them I could reach absurd numbers with an absurdly strong move

wild ore
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My zigzagoat finds a max of 3 then never finds more

sweet crypt
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What surprised me is getting like 10 Fairy Feathers on that Zacian run

wild ore
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I’d love to have like 20 silk scarfs and belly drum ex speed everything lol

sweet crypt
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That'd be a 300 Power Magical Torque (450 with STAB)

sweet crypt
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I deliberated picked paths that took me through Normal-infested areas a ton

sweet crypt
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Though this number of Silk Scarves is still certainly far above average

wild ore
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I’ve never tried infernape

sweet crypt
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Neither have I, I'm waiting on I think Triple Axel?

wild ore
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I don’t have egg moves on chimchar sadly

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I’m tryna get wins with pkm I haven’t used

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For those sweet vouchers

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I’ve begun to hate triple axel now

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It used to hit every time with out wide lens

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Now it misses every 3 uses

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I hate it

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That’s why I refuse to give it to sneasler

sweet crypt
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Skill issue

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(/j)

sweet crypt
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Venusaur run is done, I had to use Fini for the Rival but it did solo Eternatus easily

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I mean Fini was there but really Eternatus was only attacking Venusaur and I did not use a single attacking move with Fini

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I just spammed QD

smoky gyro
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????????????????

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NANI??????????????

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Why did he not click Glide-

unkempt egret
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could just be really new and didn't realize that was rilla's entire point rofl

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one of those poor saps with drum beating as their main STAB

smoky gyro
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Its randbat

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Rilla 100% has glide

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It always does

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Its either band glide or life orb glide with SD

narrow pine
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May have called a switch

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Thought He got a free turn for SD

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Like I don't know the full context of the battle ofc, But why would you stay in?

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Glides most likely an OHKO iirc

smoky gyro
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Fair I didnt give a whole lot of context

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Its a life orb nasty golduck

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And Im on +2

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And already heavily chipped

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I was on like 40% ish I think

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So there isnt much point switching cause golduck has exerted all of its value already

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Being able to switch back in AND nasty AND get a hit off is very unlikely so I just decided to sac it for a free switch

sweet crypt
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With the context of Golduck being at +2 and being low on HP, yeah I'd probably just Grassy Glide

smoky gyro
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You have no reason not to glide there

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Unless they just didnt know glide has priority and rilla is slower

sweet crypt
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And yeah you have not revealed many mons

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For all they know you have a Moltres

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That will tank Grassy Glide and punish with Flame Body

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Or worse, a Quiver Dancing Volcarona

smoky gyro
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I mean I feel like

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Trying to predict for 2 specific counter mon

sweet crypt
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So tbh

smoky gyro
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In randbats

sweet crypt
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In general this is a horrid situation for them

smoky gyro
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Where there are so many possibilities

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Is not the smartest move

sweet crypt
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Also while what I said may justify them clicking Grassy Glide

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Meant to say the opposite

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Yknow when your brain forgets to add a word

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Yeah that

smoky gyro
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"What if they have a sap sipper mon oh god"

sweet crypt
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While what I said may justify them not clicking Grassy Glide

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It doesn't justify SD

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Since both Volcarona and Moltres will just outspeed and KO

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So if they wanted to predict, the play was to switch

smoky gyro
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It also might just not be an sd set

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Cause rilla in randbats can run band as well

sweet crypt
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Ig that would also be a viable play if the opponent's Golduck wasn't very low and didn't have much value left, thus disincentivisng a switchout

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There is worth to saving a low HP Pokemon tbf

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Like if they're your only way to get past a certain Pokemon

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And you don't want to risk your opponent having that one

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(Usually this is multiple certain Pokemon)

smoky gyro
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Its a 204 speed mon

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On 40%

sweet crypt
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But tbh that's just overpredicting

smoky gyro
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Without specs

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What value does it have-

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Its not even fast enough to be a revenge killer

sweet crypt
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Idk I feel like depending on the opponent it could revenge kill a decent number of things

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Obviously not everything, most things that boost Speed will be faster

smoky gyro
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The only time I keep a mon at low health is if it's fast enough/has priority to revenge kill or has an immunity to switch into

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Otherwise to the death fodder you go

sweet crypt
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But like there's certainly some Pokemon that can be scary with less speed

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Like uhh

smoky gyro
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Gambit

sweet crypt
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Can Golduck get Encore in RandBats?

smoky gyro
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Yes

sweet crypt
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That's a pretty good way to stop setup sweepers

smoky gyro
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This set doesnt but golduck does have encore

sweet crypt
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Though assuming your opponent's Golduck has Encore and that they want to preserve it is uhh

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Certainly a play

smoky gyro
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Golduck was mine btw

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Rilla was the opponent

sweet crypt
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Your opponent could've been just assuming Golduck had some value left to you

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But yeah that isn't a good play

smoky gyro
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I mean even then

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I dont see 204 speed at 40% having much value with encore

sweet crypt
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I've given reasons for why you'd preserve Golduck

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But I ain't saying that they're good reasons for them to assume

smoky gyro
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I just feel like its overpredicting to not glide

sweet crypt
smoky gyro
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Especially when as the opponent with rilla you have no info on the rest of my team

sweet crypt
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But not Alcremie because Aroma Veil is very funny

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What is Chimecho's Speed in RandBats?

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I fucking hate that bastard

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So encoring it is good

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174, so Golduck can Encore it

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Either preventing it from setting up too much or locking it into the setup move to attack it without risking any counterattacks

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Or locking it into Recover but it isn't unlikely that it'd already have so many boosts by that point that you'd need a crit to win

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Tbf locking it into Cosmic Power depending on the Pokemon just doesn't matter

smoky gyro
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Ive honestly grown to become really fond of slow encore

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I think mostly cause no one ever expects it

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Fast encore from stuff like bundle and jumpluff and priority encore from stuff like whims and sableye are known

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Basically everyone knows they have access to it

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But no one ever expects it on slower mon like dewgong or granbull

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So they just think theyre safe to set up

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And then get screwed for it

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Maushold also

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Another fast encore-r

sweet crypt
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Problem is, anyone who does expect it just

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Attacks

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Or switches

smoky gyro
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Thats true

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Switching is the worst option

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If its an attack you just switch into a resist/immune

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And then set up yourself lmao

sweet crypt
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And if they switch then they probably switched into something that will OHKO you in the next 5 seconds

smoky gyro
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Dewgong is lowkey FAT tho

sweet crypt
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The mumble of times I've typod and S with a D

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And vice versa

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And I typod N for M there

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And then autocorrect took the wheel

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I hate typos and autocorrect

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They always seem to work together to screw you up the most they possibly can

smoky gyro
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Oh also the fireflies

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How can I forget about them as prankster encore

sweet crypt
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Potentially the absolutely strongest Prankster mons in RandBats, and absolutely the most annoying

smoky gyro
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And speaking of slow encorers

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Chimecho also has it lmao

sweet crypt
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Tbf I don't think it can get Encore and Cosmic Power and Recover all on one set

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And if it did then uhh

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It has a singular attacking move lmao

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I dont have an issue with Chimecho outside of those fuckass Cosmic Power sets

smoky gyro
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Which is most likely stored power

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So dark type walls it

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But yea no it doesnt

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Encore is on a different set to cosmic power

sweet crypt
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Cosmic Power Chimecho is a living war crime

smoky gyro
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Theres the cosmic power set, the calm mind set, and then the twave encord utility set

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Dont ask me why I know randbats sets so well-

wild ore
ruby narwhal
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i dont really know where to post this but uhhh yeah, hard to unsee this aftr i made it in photoshop a few months ago

terse pollen
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I hate you

ruby narwhal
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ill feel just a little bit bad if anyone whos fav pokemon is staraptor sees this

wild ore
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Hatched 3 epic eggs

terse pollen
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Hey that's pretty good

sweet crypt
wild ore
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Revival blessing and secrect sword

sweet crypt
sweet crypt
wild ore
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YOOO ONE OF MY FAVORITE PKM

terse pollen
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Ok, now THIS is epic

terse pollen
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I wish I had such luck with mega stones

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Mega Swampert seems fun to use

wild ore
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Excuses me what?

terse pollen
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Awesome sauce

terse pollen
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True

wild ore
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Swampert is slaughtering everything

terse pollen
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I hope you caught that Ursaluna

wild ore
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I did dw

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And it’s on my team

terse pollen
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Very nice

wild ore
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Swampert about to whoop lusamines ass

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Get shit on

unkempt egret
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not sure why core enforcer's effect only works if you go second

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still an okay move since it's basically just Earthquake in most contexts lol

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also problem with using FIlet Away is that you don't get to keep sitrus berries for long ROFL

mild dirge
supple basalt
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Lol

mild dirge
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its clearly my fault

raven cargo
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Anyone have pokemon sword and/shield? I’d like to evolve my Scyther but don’t know anyone IRL to trade with 😭

mild dirge
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MY FIRST KO

terse pollen
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Wait he's goated

mild dirge
terse pollen
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He's too goated

modern oar
# mild dirge

Why are you using Flare Blitz on a special attacker?

modern oar
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I literally have no idea where this "aura" thing came from, so I won't consider it a reason for anything. Even if I did know where it came from, I still won't consider it a reason.

mild dirge
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the set works dw

modern oar
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Relying on Ancient Power is just sad.

mild dirge
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why is it sad

modern oar
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It is too unreliable, that's why it's sad.

mild dirge
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thats why its funny

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Having fun is the most important part of any game

modern oar
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Yeah, it is, until you're in a competitive part of a game.

mild dirge
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Who says you can't have fun playing competitive

modern oar
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When everyone uses the most optimal things, it really hurts the fun for some people, like me.

mild dirge
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yeah thats why I dont ever play optimally

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if I lose I lose, if I win I win

terse pollen
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Bro can not understand the aura

modern oar
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I try using mons I like, but that never ends up with any progress, and I just lose, over and over again.

terse pollen
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You need more aura Kriv

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The aura is the means by which all is revealed

mild dirge
#

its around 5%

modern oar
mild dirge
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It means cool

modern oar
#

But all of the battles I've done are double battles, so that's a lot different than you.

modern oar
mild dirge
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Double battles are more fun than singles

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Singles is usually a stall fest

modern oar
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I think double battles are more fun than single battles, but I think triple battles are even better.

unkempt egret
#

I'd say singles are more of a switchfest than a stallfest but the latter is still true

lavish dune
#

snorlax

terse pollen
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5 fucking snorlax

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holy shit

lavish dune
mild dirge
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random pokemon fact

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the BST of Archeops is 567 which is the same as it's pokedex number

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and it's the only pokemon to exist with a BST of 567
its also part of the Dewey Decimal number 567.9 which is the number for feathered dinosaurs.

lavish dune
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bird up

hasty gorge
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For any of my Wii players in here, what was your favorite Pokémon game on the Wii?

lavish dune
#

rumble

as its the only one i knew existed

lavish dune
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this is the face of god

mild dirge
lavish dune
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like the file?

mild dirge
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if thats ok with you

lavish dune
#

ill dm so i dont get nipped at for spam

sweet crypt
# mild dirge aura

Dude that set looks like pure unfettered shit (this is a reference I need to spell out everything on the Internet or people will just assume I'm being a jerk)

terse pollen
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It's called aura bruh

sweet crypt
#

Tbh I don't find Singles a stallfest

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At least definitely not Gen 9

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Gen 9 is like fucking hyperoffence central on low-mid ladder

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Stall has historically been a difficult archetype to use

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And this is especially the case in Gen 9 where there's many Pokemon that can rip stall teams apart in seconds if the stall team makes 1 misplay that the Pokemon capitalises off

modern oar
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I just personally don't like single battles.

sweet crypt
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Nobody on low-mid ladder knows how to play stall

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If I see a Stall team, I celebrate because I just found free elo

sweet crypt
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And in the context of newer gens I can't disagree more

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Especially Gen 9

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It is generation dependant though, I think Gen 8 is pretty slow iirc?

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Gen 2 is definitely slow

modern oar
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Definitely depends on the tools you have at your disposal and the tools people have to counter it.

lavish dune
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hows endeavor interacti with bosses?

smoky gyro
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A casual 70% on a resist lmao

sweet crypt
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Certified 65 SpD moment (and a +5 in SpA but that's besides the point)

lavish dune
sweet crypt
smoky gyro
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Heavy misplay

sweet crypt
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Keep in mind, this is RandBats and Phione thus has a heavy level lead

smoky gyro
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Cause fpr some reason

sweet crypt
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They definitely did have some outs though

smoky gyro
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They gave up setting up with oricorio

sweet crypt
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I think trying for the setup war with Oricorio was the play

smoky gyro
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And let me get +2 over them

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Yep

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I mean I had a bisharp at the back with sucker so it was never the end of the world

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But he shouldve went to +6 alongside me

sweet crypt
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Definitely

smoky gyro
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Especially cause this phione set isnt the rest one so lefties is my only recovery

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And tbh even if it was I think ori still wins

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Cause I have to deal with sleep talk rng

sweet crypt
#

Oricorio certainly wins vs Restless I think

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And depending on Oricorio's Tera it may have even been able to win the game vs your Bisharp

smoky gyro
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Absolutely it does

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Its ghost btw

sweet crypt
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Ah ok

smoky gyro
#

Ghost oricorio only runs ghost tera

sweet crypt
smoky gyro
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In randbats*

sweet crypt
#

In that case I'd assume Bisharp just OHKOs with Sucker Punch

smoky gyro
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Ghost runs ghost
Electric and fire both run ground
I forgot what psychic runs

sweet crypt
#

Also is Bisharp new to Gen 9 RandBats or am I dumb

smoky gyro
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I think so

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With eviolite

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Why would you...click sleep powder against a grass type-

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Istg I hate it when you get punished predicting

sweet crypt
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They had a Bug/Poison type in on a Grass type and didn't expect you to stay in as a result

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It's not that hard to understand

smoky gyro
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I had no out there really

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Tinted lens is too strong

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My only out was a sleep powder miss

sweet crypt
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Fair enough

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I guess you could've hoped to wake up after the Sleep Powder in time to get a Dragon Tail but I don't think all Dipplins get that

smoky gyro
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This set didnt have it

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Its sucker dragon pulse gig drain recover

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And my dipplin was at 40% ish anyways I dont think I lived a sludge wav

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Even with eviolite

sweet crypt
#

Ngl it'd have been a power move to not click Tera Steel

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And then as they attack you then click it

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Idk if Eviolite Tera Steel Dipplin tanks Tinted Lens Venomoth Bug Buzz

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OK it does

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Double Dragon Pulse isn't a KO though so after that they just click Sleep Powder safely

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It was doomed from the start

smoky gyro
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The problem in that situation is if I switch and they click the ballsy quiver

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Im still fucked

sweet crypt
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Yeah idk you're just cooked in this scenario Venomoth had you beat

smoky gyro
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Tfw when bugs

sweet crypt
#

Venomoth is like the 3rd scariest Quiver Dancer in normal play so I'd imagine it's also scary in RandBats

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Quiver Dancers are just scary

smoky gyro
#

Frosmoth is also really scary imo

sweet crypt
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Because on one side you have actually good mons like Volcarona and Oricorio

smoky gyro
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Especially under snow

sweet crypt
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And on the other you have the fear of how you can live with yourself after losing to a Butterfree

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Or a Masquerain

sweet crypt
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Or if it Teras

smoky gyro
#

Thats why snow

sweet crypt
#

Tbf that's most Quiver Dancers

smoky gyro
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+50% phys def baby

sweet crypt
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Frosmoth just has more, bigger weaknesses than the rest

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With that said it's probably like

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4th?

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5th?

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Most scary Quiver Dancer in normal play

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Idk how to measure Ribombee because it is higher tiered but it's always a webber and not a dancer

smoky gyro
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Web and sometimes stun spore

wild ore
#

Now I have a physical nuke and a special nuke

smoky gyro
#

Do people actually think swampert looks good?

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It looks weird to me still

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Base swampert mainly

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Mega is kinda cool

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Sceptile also

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Base sceptile is ehh mega is dope

wild ore
#

I like mega swampert

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He gets massive arms to clock everything in the face

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If it looks weird to you it might be the arms

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They’re kinda skinny ngl

smoky gyro
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Its just

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The whole thing

wild ore
#

O

smoky gyro
#

Where did those black fins come from

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Marstomp doesnt have it and then suddenly boom

smoky gyro
#

Oh right

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I forgot how marstomp looked lmao

wild ore
#

Only mudkip doesn’t have the black fin

smoky gyro
#

Mudkip is really cute

wild ore
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Yes

smoky gyro
#

Marstomp looks...okay

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Swampert is ugh

wild ore
#

I heard you like mudkipz

smoky gyro
#

To me

wild ore
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I like mudkip and swampert

smoky gyro
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The problem I have with base sceptile is the proportions

wild ore
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It might be me but most of the middle starter evo look ugly

smoky gyro
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The tale is like 40% of its bodh for some reason

wild ore
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Yes

smoky gyro
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Is great looking

smoky gyro
#

Quilava also

wild ore
#

I didn’t say all

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I said most

smoky gyro
#

Whatever littens middle form is called

wild ore
#

Torracat is rad

smoky gyro
#

Dartrix

smoky gyro
#

I love how dartrix looks

wild ore
#

Ok twin I get it

smoky gyro
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Brionne also

wild ore
#

I said most

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Not all😭

smoky gyro
#

Im not trying to disprove you Im just listing the middle evos I do like

smoky gyro
#

Middle forms in gen 9 is just what middle forms are meant to look like

smoky gyro
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The awkward teenage phase

wild ore
#

They look like the last and first stage

smoky gyro
#

Anyways popplio best starter line design wise you cant change my mind

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I love popplios line

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So pretty

wild ore
#

I don’t like the middle evo but the rest is fine

smoky gyro
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The middle evo is cute

smoky gyro
#

Rowlet is a close second

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I love deckidooey

lavish dune
#

@dense juniper uh... hacked maybe?

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ah sorry

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someone got here already

#

way to be on top of things

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still unsure what that start command is

lavish dune
modern oar
lavish dune
#

awwww yeaaaaaa

mild dirge
#

the white and red shinies are always the best looking

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trevenant another good example

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also something that has always bugged me is "why isn't mega absol a fairy type"

brisk hedge
#

Forget mega Absol, why isn’t regular Absol fairy type

mild dirge
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it also has the ability "justified"

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Raises Attack when hit by a Dark-type move.

brisk hedge
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Or better yet, why isn’t it psychic type. It can sense future disasters and psychic type actually existed when Absol was introduced

mild dirge
sweet crypt
#

I did 90% of the Venusaur run with base Venusaur

wild ore
#

I get every mega but venasaur

noble zealot
brisk hedge
noble zealot
#

70 BP's kinda ehh...

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Feels like it'd have the same problem that Flareon did before it gained Flare Blitz...

sweet crypt
#

Yes it is

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And not a funny one, a sad one

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I'd rely on Stone Miss, or Play Shart, or Supershit Slam all before Psycho Cut

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It's so bad it doesn't even get a comedic name laughing at how bad it is

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Because that'd imply that it's comedic, or trying to be, when I've already established that it's sad

unkempt egret
#

if anything's below 80 (90?) base power it'd better have a good secondary effect to justify that

mild dirge
#

there are two physical fairy moves that can actually be learnt and one is learnable only by two pokemon

unkempt egret
#

also "having less than 100% accuracy" is another thing you gotta really justify yourself with

mild dirge
#

physical fairy type pokemon have one option for stab and its 90% accuracy

unkempt egret
#

"Fairy Is Not A Physical Type" ~Gamefreak, probably

mild dirge
#

which sucks cause there is quite a few physical attacking fairy types

unkempt egret
#

there's a reason why pokerogue gives basically every single one Magical Torque in their egg moves rofl

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aka the cheaty STAB the player isn't supposed to have

mild dirge
#

fairy special options:
moonblast
dazzling gleam
draining kiss
fairy wind
alluring voice
misty explosion
fairy physical options:
play rough

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the difference is astounding

unkempt egret
#

I dunno if I'd call some of those options rofl

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moonblast, dazzling dream, alluring voice, and maybe draining kiss depending on the mon

#

Misty Explosion feels like a steel wing/smart strike situation where it was intended to be G-Weezing's signature move but was just made a tutor move for some reason

sweet crypt
mild dirge
#

I at no point said they were good ones

sweet crypt
#

Fair enough, if you were only including good ones Physical Fairy would have nothing

mild dirge
#

^

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90% accuracy move or nothing at all

sweet crypt
#

I dont mind it being 90% accurate by itself but combined with the average power it's a disaster

#

I've said this many times, but for a move to justify itself having less than 100% accuracy, it needs power

#

Fire Blast, Hydro Pump, Gunk Shot

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These moves have far greater power than their 100% accurate counterparts

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And overall far above average power

#

Play Rough I guess technically has far greater power than its counterpart

#

But that's more so because its counterpart is uhh

#

Literally nothing

#

And it's average power at best

sweet crypt
#

Hello I'm just shittalking Play Shart like I always do

#

It's crazy how every single physical Fairy move is dogshit excluding fucking Twinkle Tackle, Max and Gmax moves and fucking

#

Magical Torque

#

Which is a signature move of an unobtainable form of a Gen 9 Pokemon

wild ore
#

Oh yea

sweet crypt
#

That is so unobtainable that it has no base stats

wild ore
#

There’s like

sweet crypt
#

It just has hardcoded stats

wild ore
#

1 physical fairy move

#

Which is pkay rough

sweet crypt
#

Play Shart and Spirit Break

wild ore
#

Oh

sweet crypt
#

Spirit Break is not changed because man looking at this move really breaks your spirit to use physical Iron Valiant

wild ore
#

But yea play shart does not need 90 accuracy

mild dirge
#

spirit break is decent on a supportive pokemon like grimmsnarl

#

but for a sweeper not so much

sweet crypt
#

AKA: Not as damaging STAB

#

Which is why it's so fucking stupid

#

That one of Kyurem's signatures

wild ore
#

Ong

sweet crypt
#

IS LITERALLY ICY WIND WITH 10 MORE BP

#

FROM 55

wild ore
#

EXACTLY

#

HOLY SHIT YES

#

THAT DOES NOT SCREAM

#

“Attack fired from a deity”

sweet crypt
#

And then you have 2 charge moves as well lmfaoooo

#

Kyurem can't catch a break

mild dirge
#

luckily it gets a much better move 8 levels later

sweet crypt
wild ore
sweet crypt
#

Sheer Cold isn't even a good move

mild dirge
#

tournament winning set

sweet crypt
#

Glaciate's just pointless

sweet crypt
mild dirge
#

CHOICE SPECS SHEER COLD

wild ore
#

Sheer cold is a ohko anyways

sweet crypt
#

But I'd imagine Articuno was mostly clicking Blizzard or Freeze Dry

wild ore
#

But yea

mild dirge
sweet crypt
wild ore
#

I saw that Wolfie video

mild dirge
sweet crypt
mild dirge
#

like 6

sweet crypt
#

Damn that's actually pretty above odds

wild ore
#

50/50 ratio

sweet crypt
#

Big Gambling wins again

mild dirge
#

of course this was through the entire tournament

#

but it did hit sheer cold while the stream was on

sweet crypt
unkempt egret
mild dirge
#

man this wall is too tough for me to break if only there was a better wa-
gambling:

split yoke
mild dirge
#

I can and I will

unkempt egret
#

"don't use this" is basically the (im)polite way of saying either "this is too strong for the tier below this and too weak for the tier it's currently in but people keep using it anyway" or "this pokemon is not relevant in any metagame that isn't specifically tailored for it" for ones in PU and below

#

of course the point in the night where I'm taking a break from sonic crossworlds I find a

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(also tatsugiri was a fine clear, oddly got better when I ditched Filet Away for the nasty plot it naturally got, I think the only time FA would have actually been better was on wave 145 and maybe wave 95)

terse pollen
#

It's a sign

#

You can never escape Sonic

unkempt egret
#

also got another tier 3 shiny of... goomy. after I just finished the dragon run rofl

terse pollen
#

Well nice but also rip

unkempt egret
#

I think the gen 6 run is still on the table at least

unkempt egret
#

I like how I look at fomantis's final egg move being fire and I'm like "oh gee I wonder what V-create that could be, move?"

lavish dune
#

my fearow has sniper as its ability, i found a scope lens, wide lens, multi lens, moxie as its passive, an adamant nature, and triple arrows which has a hightened crit rate

#

idk if a stronger bird exists

#

and i have all its egg moves

#

it could only be better if i had it as shiny

unkempt egret
#

you ballin

#

I think I used fearow in mono-kanto and it is quite gud lol

mild dirge
#

they couldnt handle the borble

#

I must presume none of them were arceus flying

lavish dune
#

i appreciate you keeping the names lol

mild dirge
#

they were too good

lavish dune
#

snorlax is an incredibly unassuming pokemon, people underestimate it

#

fear barbara, master of the counter

mild dirge
mild dirge
#

literally this

#

4x setup and it vanishes because of counter

#

one time I clicked counter 4 times in a row while they were setting up urshifu single strike with swords dance

lavish dune
#

and snorlax just has a genuinely shocking amount of type coverage

mild dirge
#

sometimes they just quit before we can even fight

lavish dune
#

this dude getting pissy at me for t-wave registeel like hes not using a jirachi iron head set

lavish dune
mild dirge
mild dirge
modern oar
mild dirge
#

Absolute cinema

lavish dune
#

stepped to the master and got BEAT

#

imma play skyrim

#

gg tho, its always fun seeing someone i recognize in the wild

mild dirge
#

ggs

lavish dune
#

bro just got swept by a beedrill

modern oar
static spear
#

Found this guy by COMPLETE accident

smoky gyro
#

Wait

#

If an Unseen Fist mon use a contact move

#

Into Spikey Shield

#

Does the Unseen Fist mon still take recoil from the Spikey Shield?

#

I guess this appljes to Feint as well

#

If an attack breaks spikey shield and makes contact does it still get chipped by the spikey shield?

lavish dune
#

oh i like that

#

my brother in christ WHY are you at wave 170??

terse pollen
#

That's a nice shiny

sweet crypt
lavish dune
#

obviously

smoky gyro
#

Bro just gave me a free +4

smoky gyro
#

Do people not know what unaware is-

sweet crypt
smoky gyro
#

If they knock off crit a bajillion times

#

They had an out /s

sweet crypt
#

Went Medicham

#

And outspeed after the Mud Shot

#

Instead of paralysing it first

#

Empoleon's not that fast

smoky gyro
#

Im pretty sure medi is just faster at base

#

Even without mud shot

sweet crypt
smoky gyro
#

And Im pretty sure it was band because it did 60 FUCKING PERCENT on a clefable with cc

sweet crypt
#

I hope for their sake that they didn't actively click Twave while having CC on Granbull

#

But we shall never know that Granbull's full set

smoky gyro
#

No I meant the medi with cc

#

Granbull doesnt run cc in randbats

#

Idk if it even learns it

sweet crypt
#

It does get EQ in RandBats right?

#

That I am more confident on

#

Anyways doing the Crabrawler run in Pokerogue rn

#

And uhh

#

Water Bubble is kinda broken

#

I just OHKOd a Bulbasaur with a water move

smoky gyro
#

It does

sweet crypt
#

Tbf that water move was surging strikes

#

But that's still only like 107.5 non STAB Power

#

On a Crabrawler

#

Ok so obviously I will be getting Ice Hammer for STAB

#

But what do I replace?

#

I want Shore Up to heal, I want at least 1 of Mach and Jet Punch and I want Surging Strikes

#

But I will also want a stronger Fighting move later

#

And that's like 5 moves

sweet crypt
#

Crabrawler's starting to become unusable, still no Ice Stone

#

But it did solo 55 Rival

#

Which is fucking funny

smoky gyro
#

This whole time I didnt realize crabrawler was the unevo onr

lavish dune
sweet crypt
sweet crypt
#

Who resisted all my Water and Fighting moves

smoky gyro
lavish dune
#

maybe, but its fun

smoky gyro
#

Slow mons who have no bulk are always useless

#

They cant even be saved by trick room

lavish dune
#

okay Gary, imma go have fun with things i like

sweet crypt
#

The rival added a Florges on her team but I just fucking ate Dgleam????

#

I was at half HP too

#

From Corviknight Drill Peck

lavish dune
#

name the crabrawler Aaron Tide

#

fighting Nemona in this run for champion, her theme kinda slaps

sweet crypt
#

Decided to fight the Bug Superfan, almost got cooked by Scizor Gear Grind but it missed so gg ez

lavish dune
#

wtf do i do against koraidon bruh Despair

sweet crypt
#

But not as hard as you would to Miraidon

lavish dune
#

what in this squad coud even fight koraidon

sweet crypt
lavish dune
#

i tried and it just crit through it T_T

sweet crypt
#

Uhhh

#

Alakazam gets outsped doesn't it

lavish dune
#

yep

sweet crypt
#

Yeah, 135 vs 125

#

Rough

lavish dune
#

everything does

#

fearow has extreme speed and tera normal, but i need to make a dent for that to kill

sweet crypt
#

What Tera is Eggy?

lavish dune
#

stoutland has play rough, which could kill but this aint a starter lilipup this is JUST a dude

#

grass

sweet crypt
#

Uhh

#

Simply pray it uses a Dragon move after intimidate spamming it

#

And not a Fire one

#

Then Tera

lavish dune
#

probably sacrifice beedrill if it uses outrage to stall a bit

#

just beat a tera dark meowscarda by spamming leech seed, its whole thing was spamming sucker punch

#

kings rock procced 3 times in a row

#

Nemona's theme still goes hard

#

straight jamming

#

YEAAAAAAH BABY

#

ah fuck

#

IT THREW

sweet crypt
#

As I near the end of the Crabominable run, I have to confess

#

I went into this expecting it to be F tier garbage

#

I was sorely mistaken

#

It's like at worst a B tier

#

I probably wouldn't put it in A tier though, so like