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sweet crypt
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And I sure as fucking hell wouldn't consider myself lucky upon seeing a Guzzlord

unkempt egret
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also knowing japan it's probably some number pun thing

narrow pine
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Isn't Wailord literally made of Air due to its weight being super low

sweet crypt
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Like not only is it a giant always eating apocalypse alien dragon

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But it's also dogshit in battle

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So I can't even catch it

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And use it vs friends successfully

sweet crypt
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Which it kinda just isn't

noble zealot
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And Onix is about as dense as styrofoam.

sweet crypt
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Someone went out of their way to measure Wailord's model lmao

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Archaludon can float

unkempt egret
sweet crypt
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It is a very very light metal as one could probably tell

unkempt egret
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I forget if they fixed jumpluff's cube shadows by XD or PBR rofl

sweet crypt
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I get that the dex calls it light and that Duraludon can have light metal

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But this is frankly a bit fucking ridiculous

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If I were to say fish Pokemon what would y'all think of first

unkempt egret
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oddly enough wishiwashi since we just mentioned it

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then basculin (red fin for some reason) second

sweet crypt
noble zealot
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Magikarp

sweet crypt
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Tbh a bunch of Pokemon come to my mind

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And for some reason it's mostly ones where people may actually not see as fish Pokemon at first

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I mean

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Garchomp is a shark

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Sharks are fish

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Garchomp is by all means a fish Pokemon

unkempt egret
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I can see that

sweet crypt
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Dragalge also comes to mind

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Because idek how many people know what it's based on to begin with

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I dont think many people think of the leafy seadragon often

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But that's once again a fish

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Does Tatsugiri count as a fish Pokemon

noble zealot
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Yes

sweet crypt
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I mean some of the sushi it's based on is fish

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But others are like

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Shrimp or something idk

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And does Gyarados count as a fish Pokemon?

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It evolves from one

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But it really doesn't closely resemble any fish

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Does Swampert count as a fish? Based on Mudkip's name, it's probably at least somewhat based on the mudskipper

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Is Vaporeon a fish? It's definitely part fish part mammalian creature

noble zealot
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It honestly looks more like an axolotl (an amphibian) than a mudskipper, IMO.

sweet crypt
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Does Chi-Yu count if it's technically the beads?

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Does Fini count if it's technically the shell?

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So many technicalities

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Dracovish is another where it is half fish

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And Arctivish by extension

sweet crypt
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But there's still the implication it's meant to be part Mudskipper

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Is that enough for it to be considered a fish?

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Who knows

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The intention behind the Legendary Beasts was for Raikou and Suicune to be directly more feline and Entei to be a mix of both feline and canine but nobody calls these mfs legendary cats or even legendary beasts

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Apart from me

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I call them legendary beasts

noble zealot
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I mostly see them called beasts nowadays.

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"Legendary dogs" and "legendary gerbils" seem to have gone through retirement.

sweet crypt
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The designer also mentions wanting to make it more like a lion at first though so I'd still say I'd associate Entei more with felines than canines

narrow pine
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tbf the original Silver legendary was supposed to be a dog

sweet crypt
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But they did mention both cats and dogs for it

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That said with what Entei is based on you could make a push for Arcanine to be being part dog part cat for the same reason

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Though ofc everyone will associate Arcanine with dogs first

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Idk Pokemon design inspirations are always interesting to look at for me

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Though in a majority of cases we don't know anything 100%

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And some of what Bulbapedia says is copium to the highest degree like wtf do you mean Latios is a griffin

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Mf griffins are half bird half cat

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Where the fuck is the cat lmao

noble zealot
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I guess "Legendary Carnivorans" (the order that includes felids, canids, bears, mustelids, pinnipeds, hyenas, mongooses, raccoons, and skunks) is the best one can do.

sweet crypt
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Legendary animals fr

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Dragalge is far heavier in proportion and in actuality than actual seadragons

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Though tbf if the former is true the latter obviously is

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Since seadragons are very small

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Whiscash is relatively normal

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Similar length to large Catfish species in Japan, and like 5 kg heavier

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Something that is not comparable is Alomomola to the Mola Mola (or Ocean Sunfish)

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Alomomola comes in at 1.2m tall, the average Mola Mola is, according to Wikipedia, 1.8m tall

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Alomomola's weight is 31.6 kg

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The Ocean Sunfish's weight generally ranges from 247 to 1 fucking ton

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With the largest known Mola Mola weighing 2.3 tons

brittle atlas
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Hi everybody this Is Duel Revolution if somebody want try i give my code for reward if somebody use i Will give starter and shiny event

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1QX4TJ

unkempt egret
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oh I like how I just brain-off'ed the tera electric shard onto gourgest despite, ya know, the SHEDINJA sitting right there

unkempt egret
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oh do they just not allow you to swap shedinja's tera type off Bug

wild ore
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Damn

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Should I roll for xerneas?

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@sweet crypt I need ur input Srry if your busy

terse pollen
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Xerneas is pretty strong

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I'm not Latios but I agree

wild ore
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Yez but

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I only have 11 voucher

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Hmmm

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What to do what to do

terse pollen
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I usually go for the shiny up

wild ore
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I already have gud shinies

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Augh I’m going for it

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I got only commons

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And one rare

terse pollen
wild ore
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Bro

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I have one tip

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Get a hisuian sneasler

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on pokerouge

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NOW

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even better if you have drain punch egg move

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And if you find the hone claws tm

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Everything is dying

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This thing hard carry’s so much

solemn laurel
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ahem anotha one

sweet crypt
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But I think it reset by now

sweet crypt
solemn laurel
# sweet crypt Ggs

Apparently 3 Pokemon with Intimidate and Snarls makes Eternatus’ attacks feel like a napkin from a little kid’s birthday party

wild ore
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Got nothing but commons and one rare

sweet crypt
terse pollen
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<@&306953740651462656> banish them to the shadow realm

raw eagle
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i ask game freak one question, WHY IS BREEDING IN THE GEN III REMAKES RELEGATED TO POST GAME

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I JUST WANT MY 3 ELEMENTAL DOG CAT THINGS

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😭

smoky gyro
solemn laurel
smoky gyro
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I was expecting like a normal fan game

smoky gyro
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Who the heck runs scarf incin-

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Ive never seen this set before

lavish dune
lavish dune
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well howdy

smoky gyro
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31 atk on a special attacker is oof

unkempt egret
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I think you can drop it lower in pokerogue? not sure

sweet crypt
smoky gyro
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Its a horrible set

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219 isnt even that fast

sweet crypt
smoky gyro
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Fast is like 230~ in my standards

sweet crypt
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I know I've had many matches where I would love to have had a Scarf Incineroar

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Or anything above 170 Speed for that matter

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Mmm bad RNG delicious

unkempt egret
sweet crypt
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I know RandBats is RandBats but I get screwed over by RNG like at least 10 times per match

smoky gyro
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Meowstic, Meowscarada, Eleki, Talonflame, Zebstrika, stuff like that are all way faster

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Well eleki is an anomaly but

sweet crypt
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That's just my luck in Pokemon in general though actually

sweet crypt
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So I'd say the set works decently well

smoky gyro
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You know its a problem when I can remember most of their speeds by heart

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In randbats only

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Ask me their base speed and I couldnt answer you but in randbat I could

sweet crypt
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Like Zebstrika could probably beat Incin with High Horsepower and tanking 1 hit

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But only if it's Scarf

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I'd assume Incin can also be Banded here

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Since that's the item it most usually runs in normal Singles aside from maybe HDB

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Which I'd also assume is a set

smoky gyro
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Never seen band

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I know scarf heavy duty lefties av

unkempt egret
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oh

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well I turned italian language on for comedy and

smoky gyro
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Nuova...

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Unova...

unkempt egret
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if anyone's wondering:

solemn laurel
smoky gyro
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The custom shinies are kinda cool

solemn laurel
brisk hedge
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I have successfully collected every single Poketch app (except for the event exclusive ones 😡) in Pokémon Platinum

wild ore
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I love sweeping teams with sneasler

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And my 142.5 base power drain punch

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Because I have 2 black belts that give a 40% boost then with stab making it 90%

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Close combat with that is 228 base power

sweet crypt
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Is it base power if the power isn't base anymore

wild ore
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Idk

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I just put 75+90%

sweet crypt
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Anyways I ran out of things to do runs with

wild ore
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And it said 142.5

sweet crypt
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Chat give me stuff to de runs with

wild ore
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Sneasler

sweet crypt
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I did that a few days ago

wild ore
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Oh ok

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Was it fun?

sweet crypt
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I even talked about doing it

wild ore
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Oh I guess I didn’t see it

sweet crypt
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Even with Swords Dance

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Dire Claw's relatively low BP is definitely apparent

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I probably would've taken Gunk Shot if it showed up

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Since the low BP was really bugging me by the end of the run

wild ore
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I mean for me I’ve been sweeping a lot of teams with only two hone claws

sweet crypt
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I just sometimes barely lacked the power to OHKO bosses

wild ore
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Yea that’s if you don’t set up

sweet crypt
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And that sucks because Sneasler's not amazing at taking hits

sweet crypt
wild ore
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Is it adamant?

sweet crypt
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And it does struggle to find opportunities to do so notably

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Since Sneasler is frail

sweet crypt
wild ore
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Idk

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I haven’t been having problems

sweet crypt
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It's just that like I said finding multiple opportunities to set up can be tough

wild ore
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Maybe yo sneasler don’t like u

sweet crypt
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It was definitely fine for most battles tbf

wild ore
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Wait does it have drain punch?

sweet crypt
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But there's just some battles where you really want at least 2 Swords Dances

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But you just can't get them

wild ore
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Do you have egg move for drain punch

sweet crypt
wild ore
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That’s the problem

sweet crypt
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It ain't the problem at all

wild ore
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If you have low hp and something has sturdy and you didn’t use drain punch obviously your dying

sweet crypt
wild ore
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If you did there’s a chance you live

sweet crypt
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And even if it was, the Sturdy mons are the likes of Golem and Donphan

wild ore
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It’s been my main fighting move and close combat is for the tougher guys

sweet crypt
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Who just slam you with Ground moves for an OHKO anyways

wild ore
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Idk bro I guess sneasler doesn’t like u

sweet crypt
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The issue was simply just lacking damage for some bosses

wild ore
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It’s been carrying me hard

sweet crypt
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I think I got Maxie that run?

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And yeah Maxie is like

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The worst MU for Sneasler

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Proto Defence Tusk

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Boss Groudon

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Sun boosted Fire attacks to prevent setup

wild ore
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It also gets triple axel

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But you need a hone claws to hit that consistently

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So nvm

sweet crypt
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Groudon's just too bulky

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And Sneasler cannot set up Swords Dance vs Maxie

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Sun Boosted Eruption on Typhlosion/Psychic move on Solrock is the lead

wild ore
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Then just don’t set up swords dance?

sweet crypt
wild ore
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Switch

sweet crypt
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So you just have to use something else

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And being forced to use something else means Sneasler is nowhere near a top mon

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Since the top mons should ideally solo the game

wild ore
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Top mons still have weaknesses

sweet crypt
wild ore
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That’s a legendary

sweet crypt
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Doesn't change that it's a top mon

wild ore
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Still

sweet crypt
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Garchomp also solos the game easily

wild ore
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Sneasler is good if you don’t have a good legend

sweet crypt
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Though tbf that's Garchomp

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But one thing I will say that is better than Sneasler

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That surprised me as to how good it performed

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Is Arctovish

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Not Dracovish

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Arctovish

sweet crypt
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My Mono Ice run was genuinely an Arctovish solo sweep all the way up to Eternatus

sweet crypt
wild ore
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Ok ok enough let’s stop arguing about a pixel game where you kidnap animals

sweet crypt
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Idk, I'm trying to make a point that Sneasler has some extremely noticeable flaws

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And that prevents it from being a top mon even among non legends

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The bulk I think is the biggest deal breaker

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Since it really heavily limits how many times you can set up

wild ore
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Just use swords dance when you think they gonna swap

brittle atlas
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Algun hack room Bueno completo ?

sweet crypt
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Then what?

wild ore
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You switch

sweet crypt
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You just swap out, that's what

brittle atlas
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Hack room pokemon completed?

sweet crypt
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And that's why it isn't a top mon

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It needs to have teammates it can rely on

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The top mons don't

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Except for maybe like Eternatus or something

wild ore
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What if miradon gets it special attack dropped by 2?

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What do you do then

sweet crypt
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Who's even using SpA dropping moves

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I dont think I've ever encountered a single one

wild ore
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What about special defense dropping moves

sweet crypt
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This is Miraidon we're talking about, only like .1% of Pokemon survive the 1st turn

wild ore
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If it’s asleep?

sweet crypt
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And it has the bulk to beat even the Ground type Sturdy mons in a pinch

wild ore
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And it doesn’t have a lum berry?

sweet crypt
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And it will barely ever be inactive

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Because of the Mystical Rock or whatever it's called

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As well as Trainer Battles resetting Electric Terrain turns

wild ore
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Your comparing a normal pokemon to a legendary

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Of course the legendary is better

sweet crypt
wild ore
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And I’m not saying sneasler is a top Mon either

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I’m just saying it’s good

sweet crypt
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Sneasler is "good," sure

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I can accept that

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But it certainly has major flaws

wild ore
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Your the one in context trying to make it seem like I said it was a top mon

sweet crypt
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I dont think I recall saying you said that

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I merely said that I personally don't think it's a top mon

sweet crypt
# wild ore

Yes, that's me saying I don't think it's a top mon, after you refuted me saying it isn't a top mon

wild ore
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Looking through these chat longs I see no evidence that I denied it wasn’t a top Mon

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YOU MY GOOD FRIEND WERE THE ONE TALKING ABOUT TOP MON!

sweet crypt
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After one of our conversations where I said Sneasler wasn't a top mon, you instantly said that top mons have weaknesses

wild ore
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Yes

sweet crypt
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Which greatly implies that you think Sneasler is a top mon

wild ore
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Nuh uh it’s a good one but not the top

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It’s a normal pkm

sweet crypt
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Sure you could make an argument you're saying that even the best mons are flawed, albeit not as much as Sneasler

wild ore
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Not a legend

sweet crypt
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But with how much you were defending Sneasler, I don't quite think this is the case

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If I were to rank it overall, I'd place it in a low A or high B placement

wild ore
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It’s not like the other furry two legged animal that is a fire and dark type

sweet crypt
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There's a grand total of 0 relevant double battles, it's Incinerover

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Uhhhhh

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Maybe uhhh

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Eternatus?

wild ore
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Yez

sweet crypt
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Who is primarily special so Intimidate isn't very important

sweet crypt
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But uhh

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You weaken Cross Poison I guess

sweet crypt
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A lot of other Pokemon get Parting Shot now

wild ore
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Its also decently bulky

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So

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Yes

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Parting shot

sweet crypt
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Idk I guess it could be a decent support for Eternatus

wild ore
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Just spam parting shot and boom eternatus is cooked

sweet crypt
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But it'd be like

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A B tier support for Eternatus I feel

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Maybe high B

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B+ if you will

wild ore
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And if you predict a dynamax cannon with protect you get a free parting shot turn

sweet crypt
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Which I don't think is worth bringing it for the rest of the game

sweet crypt
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And Eternabeam won't recharge if it is blocked by Protect iirc

wild ore
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Fuck man

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I don’t know everything and every small detail

sweet crypt
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Also anything with Protect and Parting Shot would be able to do that

wild ore
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I have other stuff to deal with other then studying what every pokemon name is and every move

sweet crypt
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Incin's usage is above average vs Eternatus and like, about average or slightly below for the rest of the game

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So like idk it's like a mid-low B tier mon?

wild ore
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Ok ok I get it you Win geez

sweet crypt
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I could test that in the future maybe but idk if it'd be my main carry

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But ig I would need to use it as a main carry to properly gauge it

wild ore
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I don’t study pokemon every day

sweet crypt
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OK but seriously I need mons to use

wild ore
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Cloyster

sweet crypt
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I've used like a shitload and am running out

sweet crypt
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A bit hard to set up if you're put in front of a Special Attacker but with Ice Scales it's manageable

wild ore
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Flamigo

sweet crypt
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Overall A tier, maybe high A

sweet crypt
wild ore
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With moxie and scrappy

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O

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FUCK MAB

sweet crypt
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Honestly? Low S tier mon

wild ore
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WHAT HAVENT YOU USED?

sweet crypt
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FlamiGOAT

wild ore
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Yuh

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Hmmm

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Think

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Think

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GASP

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BEEDRILL?

sweet crypt
sweet crypt
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So giving it a second chance may be a good idea

wild ore
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IGHT I HAVE IDEA

sweet crypt
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Because only getting base Beedrill is very unfair for it

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Base Beedrill is hot garbage

wild ore
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what if

sweet crypt
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I mean technically it's usable I guess

wild ore
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What if

sweet crypt
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But oh my god there's so many better Pokemon

wild ore
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Tinkaton

sweet crypt
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Just pick a better one

sweet crypt
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But once I do, I'll put that on the list

sweet crypt
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I prefer to do runs once I've gotten all unlocks for them unless I don't think they're needed

sweet crypt
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That's a possibility

sweet crypt
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There's a lot of mons that I'm sitting on one more unlock to use

wild ore
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Ok erm

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Uh

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Uh

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P

sweet crypt
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For example, I have every unlock on Iron Moth...

wild ore
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I GOT IT!

sweet crypt
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Except for the only important one

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Quiver Dance

sweet crypt
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(Well Levitate's really good too but QD is just so much more important)

sweet crypt
wild ore
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torch song boost

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Mmmmmmm

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Yummy

sweet crypt
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I think it's about time I see what all the hype is about

wild ore
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FINALLY I FOUND SOMETHING YOU HAVENT USED

sweet crypt
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The main reason I've been putting it off is that even if Torch Song allows its SpA to skyrocket, it is still a slow Pokemon with exploitable weaknesses

wild ore
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It’s bulky I think

sweet crypt
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But maybe it's bulk is great enough to circumvent that

wild ore
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Idk

sweet crypt
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It is a bulky Pokemon, yes

wild ore
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Wait

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Wait

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Wait

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Have you

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Have you used?

sweet crypt
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But is it bulky enough is the question I'm posing here

sweet crypt
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I'll put that on my list

wild ore
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DRAGON DANCE SWEEP BABA!!!!

sweet crypt
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Since it's changed enough for it to basically be a new Pokemon

wild ore
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Wait

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Rayquaza

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?

sweet crypt
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I've used Rayquaza

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Overall tbh its kinda like

wild ore
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Darn ok end

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Erm

sweet crypt
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B+ tier

wild ore
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Uhhhh

sweet crypt
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Because it's so expensive and yet somewhat under average for a Legend Egg mon without the Mega

wild ore
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Venasaur

sweet crypt
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You need the mega for it to be worth its cost

wild ore
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With earth power and magalaint chain

sweet crypt
wild ore
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Earth power is good coverage

sweet crypt
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I'd prefer to get Mega Venusaur

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But I'd settle for Gmax

wild ore
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And magalaint chain is like it’s only good special poison move

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But 0 special grass without giga drain tm

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Or relevation dance

sweet crypt
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My most recent run was Terapagos

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And I heavily underestimated it

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It's unironically worth the 9 cost even if its BST in base form is low

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Tera Shell+Recover is so strong

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There's a reason why Terapagos doesn't usually get Recover

wild ore
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Ooo ooo

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How about

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Hear me out

sweet crypt
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OK I'm missing a move for Drowsee, I think it's Dark Void?

wild ore
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Lucario

sweet crypt
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If Dark Void is post nerf here I don't care

wild ore
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Lucario is good right?

sweet crypt
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If it's pre nerf though I kinda want to wait on that

sweet crypt
wild ore
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Fuck

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Idk bro

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Like

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Feraligator?

sweet crypt
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Ah shite Dark Void is pre nerf alright

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Gonna hold off on Drowsee then

wild ore
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Feraligator is decent

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It was on my first ever win team

sweet crypt
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Feraligatr is another mon where it has changed a lot from when I cleared the game with it

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So I'll redo it like I'm redoing Haxorus

wild ore
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So try it too!

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Oh my first win team was busted

sweet crypt
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I'm missing the Rare Egg Move on Tinkatink

wild ore
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Mega gengar and mega Alakazam

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OOO BABY

sweet crypt
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Unfortunately, that's mandatory, since I'm 99% sure that's Shift Gear

sweet crypt
wild ore
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Darn

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Gengar?

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It helped a lot with hypnosis

sweet crypt
# wild ore Gengar?

I'm missing Dark Void but I'll do it regardless since I don't plan on using sleeping moves with Gengar

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I'd run it as an all out offensive Pokemon

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I'm missing Bitter Blade on Axew but I think I'll do the run anyways

wild ore
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But sleep is really useful

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Especially for eternatus

sweet crypt
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What's interesting about Haxorus is that its passive is Own Tempo

wild ore
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It single handily won the fight

wild ore
sweet crypt
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Which means you can spam Outrage and Raging Fury to your heart's content

sweet crypt
wild ore
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OH HAIL YEAAAAAAA

sweet crypt
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As well as Intimidate iirc

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Useless without context

sweet crypt
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But with the context of Outrage and Raging Fury, it is very intriguing

wild ore
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Especially with dragon dance?

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I mean it still normally hits hard with a base 147 attack but still

sweet crypt
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Ddance isn't really directly linked to Own Tempo

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Outrage and Raging Fury lock you into the move for a few turns and confuses you at the end

wild ore
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But more speed and attack

sweet crypt
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But this confusion will be removed by Own Tempo

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That's why I note these 2 moves

wild ore
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Yea ik

sweet crypt
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They directly synergise with Own Tempo

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I'm missing Skeledirge's Ghost move

wild ore
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I dum but not that dum

sweet crypt
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What is it?

sweet crypt
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Moongeist Beam

wild ore
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Kool

sweet crypt
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That's actually pretty fucking useful

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Is it worth putting off the run though?

wild ore
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Is it?

sweet crypt
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Hmm... ignoring Abilities is really nice

wild ore
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Oh yez Yez Yez

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Like sturdy!

sweet crypt
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Allows me to go right through Purifying Salt on Garganacl and Sturdy on Rock types including Garganacl again

wild ore
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Oh boy do I hate sturdy

sweet crypt
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So I think I'll hold off until I get it

wild ore
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Ok!

sweet crypt
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Will also give me a chance to get Unaware while waiting

wild ore
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Hmmmm what else

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You’ve probably used zigzagoon already right

sweet crypt
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Though I don't have any plans to use it as a main sweeper, too reliant on Belly Drum for my liking

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If I want to use a Tidy Up Extreme Speed user I'd use Gumshoos

wild ore
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Eh

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I’ve had linoone clutch up sometimes

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As you saw against Ivy

sweet crypt
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You have to realise, these runs are me using these Pokemon as my main options

wild ore
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Hmmmm

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Fuh uh

sweet crypt
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I can't reliably run Belly Drum as a main option on Linoone, it's too frail

sweet crypt
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And as a Tidy Up sweeper, it's just not as good as Gumshoos

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Which I've already done multiple runs with

wild ore
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Idk bro

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Me dum dum

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Me see big damage

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Me use

sweet crypt
#

Gumshoos used to have Huge Power iirc

wild ore
#

Wait

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WAIT

sweet crypt
#

Those days are gone

wild ore
#

WAIIIIY

sweet crypt
#

But it still has Adaptability Tough Claws

wild ore
#

SERPIROUR WITH CONTRAY?

sweet crypt
#

And still hits like a train with Espeed

sweet crypt
wild ore
#

FUCK

sweet crypt
#

I haven't done any runs with the other Contrary mons

sweet crypt
#

But I don't have Spin Out on Malamar

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Lurantis looks utterly mid

wild ore
#

WAIT

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I

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Have

#

One

sweet crypt
#

And I haven't unlocked Contrary on Spinda or Enamorus

wild ore
#

Suggestion

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How about

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Hear me out

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Fuck I forgot what I was gonna say

#

I gives up

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Idk what to suggest

sweet crypt
#

I suppose that's to be expected when I've played the game so much

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My phone tries to autocorrect "to" to "yo"

wild ore
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lol

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My problem is that I don’t really have a lot of good egg moves on good pkm

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Or any good legendarys

sweet crypt
#

Recover is good on everything that I've seen get it via egg move

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As are other healing moves

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This especially applies to a lot of the legendaries

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The Creation Trio for example get Recover

wild ore
#

Wait…

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Wait…..

sweet crypt
#

And this makes Giratina and Dialga able to solo the game (I haven't unlocked Recover on Palkia yet and can't test it)

wild ore
#

Have

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Have you used mew?

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(Oh god im begging he hasn’t)

sweet crypt
wild ore
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FUCK

sweet crypt
#

One of the very few Pokemon I lack the passive for

wild ore
#

😭😭😭😭

sweet crypt
#

Is that rare egg move Recover

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Or something more cool

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Like uhh

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Shell Snash

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Or something

wild ore
#

Wait I have idea!

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Just use it without the passive:/

sweet crypt
#

It is Shell Smash

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Yeah that's a definite no then

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I absolutely NEED Shell Smash for this run if Mew can get it

wild ore
#

None of my pkm other then flamigo have their passive

sweet crypt
#

My main goal is testing Pokemon at their max potential

wild ore
#

Wait

sweet crypt
#

If I test a Pokemon at its best and compare it to a Pokemon that isn't at its best, that isn't fair

wild ore
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If a pkm is good not at their best potential it means they’ll be even better at their best

sweet crypt
#

Yeah no shit

wild ore
sweet crypt
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But it's not easy to pinpoint how much better

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And I want the exact idea

wild ore
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Ok

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Uh

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Manaphy?

sweet crypt
wild ore
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Arceus?

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Idk if that’s in the game

sweet crypt
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Done

wild ore
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Damn

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Idk bro your the one that can see if you’ve never used something

sweet crypt
#

Oh right I'm waiting on Iron Fist on Iron Hands

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Usually I wouldn't care about that small 1.2× boost but on a Pokemon like Iron Hands with moves like Drain Punch, Plasma Fists and Ice Hammer?

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Yeah no I want that 1.2

wild ore
#

Zeraora?

sweet crypt
#

I'll have to catch some at The End

sweet crypt
#

I have but it wasn't at full unlocks at the time

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So I'll use it again

wild ore
#

Any shinies you haven’t used?

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Like rare or epic?

sweet crypt
#

Of the ones I have?

wild ore
#

Yea

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Yo how big of a paragraph are you typing

terse pollen
#

He's cooking something fierce

wild ore
#

Ik

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It’s scaring me

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I feel like I’m gonna get blasted with so much info my brain will explode

wild ore
#

LATIOS JUST SPIT IT OUT

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PLEASE SPEAK

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😭😭😭😭

#

Oh mah gawd

#

I’m just gonna go fly to the moon and back

sweet crypt
#

Just so you know I'm not halfway done with listing yet

wild ore
#

IT TOOK THAT LONG TO SEND JUST THAT?

sweet crypt
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No I just stopped typing my paragraph to inform you that

wild ore
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Ah

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Ok

#

Ping me when ur done

sweet crypt
#

I'm currently listing by Gen 4 shinies that I haven't done runs with

sweet crypt
#

It detected my message as spam

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It's so over

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Vulpix, Oddish, Paras, Psyduck, Bellsprout, Geodude, Doduo (waiting on Victory Dance), Grimer, Drowzee (waiting on Dark Void), Krabby (waiting on Jet Punch), Voltorb, Rhyhorn (Would prefer to get Head Smash first), Goldeen (waiting on Fishious Rend), Eeveelutions (I'll probably bring it along for a run to beat up for HA so I can run Pixilate Boomburst Sylveon), Omanyte (waiting on Steam Eruption), Spinarak, Sunkern, Pineco, Shuckle (waiting on Salt Cure), Ursaluna (waiting on Precipice Blades), Slugma, Swinub (waiting on Precipice Blades), Remoraid (Would prefer to get Bouncy Bubble first), Skarmory, Smeargle, Hitmons (waiting on Victory Dance), Smoochum, Gardevoir (waiting on Boomburst), Shroomish, Ninjask/Shedinja, Whismur, Plusle, Illumise, Wailmer (waiting on Steam Eruption), Numel, Zangoose (waiting on Toxic Boost), Seviper, Solrock, Corphish (waiting on Jet Punch), Anorith (waiting on Mighty Cleave), Shuppet, Wynaut, Glalie/Froslass (waiting on Blood Moon), Spheal (waiting on Steam Eruption), Relicanth, Budew, Glameow (waiting on Espeed), Bonsly (waiting on Sappy Seed), Chatot, Carnivine, Snover (waiting on Matcha Gorcha), Azelf (waiting on Aura Sphere) (TBC)

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Munna, Sewaddle, Sigilyph, Trubbish, Zorua, Emolga, Karrablast (waiting on Double Iron Bash), Klink, Stunfisk, Golett (waiting on Rage Fist), Vullaby, Spritzee (waiting on Torch Song), Skrelp, Helioptile (waiting on Boomburst), Dedenne, Phantump (waiting on Sappy Seed), Volcanion (waiting on Passive), Popplio (waiting on Torch Song), Pikipek, Crabrawler, Wishiwashi (waiting on Tail Glow), Fomantis (waiting on Contrary, V-Create and Passive), Togedemaru, Drampa (waiting on Boomburst), Jangmo-O, Skwovet, Gossifleur, Chewtle (waiting on Mighty Cleave), Rolycoly (waiting on Diamond Storm), Cramorant (waiting on Oblivion Wing), Toxel, Sinistea (waiting on Moongeist Beam), Falinks (waiting on Heal Order), Indeedee, Cufant (waiting on Gigaton Hammer), Dracovish, Lechonk, Nymble, Maschiff (tbc)

sweet crypt
#

It's joever

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Klawf (waiting on Shell Smash), Capsakid (waiting on Torch Song), Rellor, Cyclizar, Veluza, Dondozo (waiting on Salt Cure), Great Tusk (waiting on Passive and Morning Sun), Scream Tail (waiting on Moonlight), Brute Bonnet (waiting on literally everything apart from Sappy Seed), Roaring Moon (waiting on Dragon Ascent), Iron Valiant (waiting on Magical Torque), Walking Wake (waiting on Core Enforcer), Pecharunt, A-Sandshrew, G-Slowpoke (waiting on Photon Geyser), H-Growlithe (waiting on Rock Head), H-Voltorb

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OH MY GOD

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I'M FUCKING DONE

#

@wild ore

#

IT ONLY TOOK 5 CENTURIES

#

50 year long list of Pokemon

#

Yeah uhh

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I have

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"A few"

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Shinies

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I've already added Dracovish to the list of Pokemon to do runs with in advance

#

I know I'm gonna want to

#

As you can see I'm waiting on a lot of rare egg moves

unkempt egret
#

hm try vulpix, shuppet, or crabrawler

sweet crypt
#

I forgot to note I don't have Tail Glow on Vulpix yet lmao

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So when it comes to main carry I won't be using it for a while

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I do already have Drought unlocked on it though

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So I can use it to support stuff like Bellsprout

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And once I unlock Tail Glow I can get going with the run

terse pollen
#

I can't believe you got this wrong

unkempt egret
#

I used it as a carry and uuh

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pretty sure I kneecapped myself by fusing it and losing drought rofl

#

not having tail glow wasn't a big deal since nasty plot usually got the job done, the main issue was having the fire stone show up lol

wild ore
#

Holy fuck

#

I went away and I come back to this

wild ore
#

My guess is that 80% of these suc

sweet crypt
lavish dune
#

hows the endless squad looking

#

i had to kill an urshifu unfortunately because i didnt have any balls

#

though i did catch an iron valiant or whatever so thats cool

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okay thats actually a pretty cool shiny

#

its got technician too, this thing aint bad at all

terse pollen
#

Missing an Urshifu is tragic

#

Your team is dripped out though

lavish dune
#

poliwrath has done me surprisingly well

#

dude can take a hit and dish it right back

delicate hollow
#

Male Gardevoir EWWW male Lopunny EWWW but female Slowbro and Slowking and the female Machop evolution lines are also EWWW

simple quartz
#

Alright Jamie go to bed

lavish dune
brisk hedge
#

I’m going to have to watch Breaking Bad one of these days, aren’t I?

lavish dune
#

thats... fine, i suppose

terse pollen
#

sizzly slide dude Quagless

lavish dune
#

i fuck with that

#

i quite like heatran

lavish dune
#

oh dear

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yea i died

#

i was woefully unprepared

latent cave
lavish dune
#

eternatus

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or the game

#

is pokerogue

latent cave
#

lv275?? how high does it go?

lavish dune
#

i dont think it has a real limit

#

ive seen upwards of 12000

unkempt egret
#

I think wave 5770 is the limit on wave?

#

because the game runs out of tokens to give and crashes somewhere around that point but they patched in an actual ending screen there

#

usually once you make it past wave about 500 you should be smooth sailing until wave 2000 if you're properly set up

#

mono-steel which idiot should I run

#

no body talked im running IRON WORMIN

lavish dune
unkempt egret
#

ok good the rival didn't get a fire starter

#

bulbasaur this time

#

-> Fletchling

#

yaaaay me and my mouth.

lavish dune
#

HYPE EARLY GAME ENCOUNTER

lavish dune
#

god gyrados just ripped the 95 rival battle apart

lavish dune
#

fuck i zoned out and got jumped by olympia while incredibly unprepared

devout crag
#

yall am i guy or a girl

#

🤔

#

im a girl i suppose

latent cave
devout crag
#

thanks...

brisk cradle
devout crag
#

who am i supposed to fuseDespair

sweet crypt
devout crag
#

makes sense

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anyways i still lost to norman

#

she had ONE job

unkempt egret
#

ROFL well that's a first

#

holding my map hostage smh

civic ferry
#

Galar starters:
Soccer kid -> Soccer player
Kid with a stick -> Drummer
Depressed kid -> Spy??

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(i do love sobble and inteleon but how are these related)

unkempt egret
#

galar starters are very much Raising Your Kid more than the other starter sets where they have a happy-go-lucky (ish) first stage, a rebellious second stage, and then just Job as their third stage lol

unkempt egret
#

also problem with orthworm: anything with Flamethrower or Aura Sphere/focus blast is basically a hard stop to anything orth does

#

overheat and mystic fire can be worked around but

#

also avoiding Volcano like the plague

#

oh

#

well rival got the V-create rayquaza but in this case that's actually better than it having hurricane or flamethrower

#

dang orthworm finally lost against a physical attacker

#

in this case a leafeon doing more damage with sappy seed's leeching than anything rofl

wild ore
#

Just found the event that lets you fight a clown with Mr mime and blacephalon to get indimadate on a pkm for the rest of that run and I gave it to my Sneasler

unkempt egret
#

ok lysandre 2 was possible but BARELY

#

and only because of two reviver seeds

#

also nice job getting intimidate

#

usually when i get that event it just gives me a useless Surge ability

wild ore
#

Wave 145

#

HELL YEAAAAAA

#

@sweet crypt should I try and catch it?

#

I don’t mind getting rid of illumise since it’s useless and just a luck booster

#

But idk

modern oar
#

I'd take it, but that's just me.

wild ore
#

K

#

Caught it

#

Bai illumise

terse pollen
#

Wow you have really high luck

#

I'm jealous

wild ore
#

Bro I just realized

#

That the tyranitar I caught that’s now mega

#

Has the adamant nature

#

The best one

#

Wowzers my luck this run is pretty good

inland crane
#

Do I have enough pokeballs

queen pecan
#

think u be fine

wild ore
#

HOLY SHIT YES THE REROLL WAS WORTH IT

terse pollen
#

Wait he's goated

wild ore
#

THE POWER

#

IS MINE

#

ALL I NEED NOW IS MEGA ALAKAZAM

#

Although I’m broke now but

#

It’s fine

#

2 golden punch and Sneasler one shotting everything is gonna fix it

terse pollen
#

Golden punch is very nice to have

#

I don't think I've ever had 2

wild ore
#

Yea

#

It means 100% of ur damage is money

hard jackal
#

Has anyone played Moon Black 2? Trying it out. Says I unlocked the keys. Saved the game and went to check and their still locked lol

wild ore
#

So if you ohko sum your getting around 300 or more money at this point?

terse pollen
#

Woah nice

terse pollen
solemn stream
terse pollen
#

It's never over the top when it's for Pikachu

solemn stream
#

Fair, but it goes through every main pokemon for every card pack in the game.

modern oar
unkempt egret
solemn stream
#

True

unkempt egret
#

omg I got blueberry E4 I'm so dead

#

yea this is unwinnable I have to start over

#

my team has no answers at all to specially attacking fire types

#

sometimes you just have to accept that the RNG just went "Checkmate" on you

#

it happens less often as your roster gets better but it can still happen

#

gonna actually take piplup this time since my big mistake last time was swapping it for klefki + trubbish

wild ore
#

Took some errors but I beat eternatus again

#

I’m baffled that close combat from fighting Tera sneasler did a whole bar each time

#

And eternatus just attacked everything but it

unkempt egret
#

gonna take tinkatink to carry myself until lup's level 36

wild ore
#

Metagross got a flinch on first phase and got through it untouched

#

And I got a sleep with dire claw

unkempt egret
#

nice nice

terse pollen
#

Great job

unkempt egret
#

aaaand that's a scorbunny lead on the rival I'm resetting this run

#

or rather I probably should but I have piplup?

terse pollen
#

Is Cinderace that hard to deal with lategame?

#

Oh yeah

unkempt egret
#

mono-steel

terse pollen
#

That would do it

unkempt egret
#

basically any fire type is an instant reset

terse pollen
#

Makes sense

unkempt egret
#

scorbunny/wattrel yea there's 0 hope there

terse pollen
#

It's joever

unkempt egret
#

hard countered rofl

terse pollen
#

What starters are you using for mono steel btw

terse pollen
unkempt egret
#

tinkaton/trubbish/piplup/bronzor/ferroseed

#

trubbish is literally only there for shiny luck rofl

terse pollen
#

Lmao

#

Hope you get a max shroom for trubbish

unkempt egret
#

oshawott/hoothoot there we go that's far better

modern oar
#

What do everyone recommend I do here?

unkempt egret
#

investigate if you can but it's a tricky fight

modern oar
#

I don't think my Pokemon are up for a fight.

#

Especially after the most recent rival fight.

unkempt egret
#

in that cast might have to just bite the money penalty

modern oar
#

My current team situation. The Basculin is just so I can have a safe switch-in for one of my mons.

#

This run has been so good so far.

#

I haven't boosted my luck with shinies and I have gotten so many higher rarity items.

modern oar
#

Which of these should I take?

unkempt egret
#

I always gun for egg voucher but in your case the max shrooms are probably better

modern oar
#

Sadly, I only had fire types left after Cyrus and I lost to a water type gym leader.

#

But for the first run of a save, that was very good.

#

I don't remember the name of the gym leader though.

lavish dune
#

MAN THE AETHER FOUNDATION PULLED UP AT WAVE 35 WITH A DOUBLE BATTLE OF ALOLAN RAICHU AND EGGSECUTOR

#

I WON WITH A YUNGOOSE IN RED HP

terse pollen
#

Aether Foundation will mess you up

lunar niche
#

I played Pokemon black 2, Should I try pokemon blaze black 2 redux?

modern oar
lunar niche
latent cave
lavish dune
#

i need to get me a registeel

#

or a genesect

devout crag
#

where

lavish dune
#

fym where

#

from an egg probably

#

though i encountered regigigas natually, so one can hope

devout crag
#

i got a genesect

lavish dune
#

i offer tier 2 shiny turtinator Pepehmmm

devout crag
#

🤔

#

interesting

lavish dune
#

ngl its actually a pretty rad shiny

devout crag
lavish dune
devout crag
#

fire

lavish dune
#

and dragon

devout crag
#

ts the genesect btw

#

✌️

#

holy shat mankey

devout crag
#

thanks heracross.

#

welcome back, kamikaze

devout crag
#

clodsireVenopog

#

do i catch him🤔

#

pluhDespair

lavish dune
#

caught a random alakazam, that is a SHNASTY spa

devout crag
#

good morning sunshine

devout crag
lavish dune
#

true

devout crag
#

good morning best fighting type design

#

fine ig

#

2 starters in the same zone is crazy

#

ts decent tbh

#

who do i fuse lwk

lavish dune
devout crag
#

i mean

#

i need weezing to make her go boom if ik i cant beat smth

#

i js didnt fuse anyone

#

i think its time

#

💔

#

it hurts me more then it hurts u weezingDespair

#

he switched out to fearow

#

🤔

#

all good

devout crag
#

sry wolfey

#

WHY DOES IT HAVE CONFUSION

sweet crypt
devout crag
#

fair

#

genesect so damn op💔

#

hey thats not fair

sweet crypt
#

For Annihilape/Geezer in particular, Ghost/Fighting is just better than Fairy/Fighting

devout crag
#

WHY DOES SHE HAVE THE PROTECTOR OF THE SKY

#

IT TANKS A ICE TYPE TECNOBLAST

#

swamper got this fr

#

-# it didnt

sweet crypt
#

Welcome to the first hard fight in Pokerogue

devout crag
#

may i ask how did she get a mfing shiny rayquaza

#

and how did it take a ice type tencnoblast

sweet crypt
sweet crypt
devout crag
sweet crypt
#

You need to reach some sort of threshold to break through its shields

devout crag
sweet crypt
#

There's still quite a few ways to handle Rayquaza, bulky resists, fast Ice Types, setup sweepers that have more than 95 speed or boost Speed etc

devout crag
#

thats the problem i didnt find a single ice type

sweet crypt
#

Oh, and AI Manipulation

#

That can also involve Tera

#

Rayquaza almost never stays in on a Fairy, Rock or Ice type

devout crag
#

im js gonna hope i hatch an extremely op pokemon

devout crag
sweet crypt
#

And if you expect Rayquaza to switch in on something, you can predict it by sending out a Pokemon that scares it out or clicking a move that heavily damages it

devout crag
#

wait where can u find golisopod alr

sweet crypt
devout crag
#

aight

#

my fav move twineedle

#

lwk gonna replace noxious torque

sweet crypt
devout crag
#

im jking gng

sweet crypt
#

You literally have Poison Sting and String Shot right there

devout crag
#

yeah they do the job

sweet crypt
#

What job is Poison Sting even doing

devout crag
#

poisont sting better then noxious torque fr✌️

sweet crypt
#

Poisoning the opponent and instantly dying?

devout crag
#

yes

sweet crypt
#

It also has the same Poison chance as Noxious Torque iirc

devout crag
#

see

#

their the sameheehee

sweet crypt
#

And the other actually does tangible damage

devout crag
#

details

#

LVL 20?

#

welcome frogadier ig

#

i cant have anything can i

sweet crypt
devout crag
#

ig

sweet crypt
devout crag
delicate hollow
#

I'm not sure if "base" Pokemon (the OGs of the series) allows players to "respawn" failed legendary captures or shiny fails unless players must defeat the E4 and champion once more.

devout crag
#

i dont think

#

welcome overrated for a reason

#

what will hatch from this

lavish dune
devout crag
#

mh

smoky gyro
#

Honestly

#

Just make Twave and Willo ignore accuracy check on electric and fire types

#

Like how toxic works

sweet crypt
# smoky gyro Honestly

At that point they probably should've just used Flamethrower for the boosted damage vs Fluffy mons

#

At least I'm pretty sure Houndstone gets Fluffy and not Fur Coat

smoky gyro
#

Its fluffy yeah

sweet crypt
#

I could be wrong though

smoky gyro
#

And the burn wouldnt have mattered anyways cause I have rest

#

But thats not the point

#

The point is WHY IS WILLO AND TWAVE STILL NOT FULLY ACCURATE

inland crane
#

why item limit even is stil a thing

smoky gyro