#other-pokemon-games
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pastel gull
no
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I DESPISE VOLCORONA
IT RUINED MY AMAZING RUN
DOESNT EVEN LET ME SWITCH OUT BEFORE KILLING MY CLOYSTER AND GHOLDENGO
I love cloyster in pokerouge
Skill link + icicle spear is so gud
terse pollen
It's kind of bullshit how in Pokerogue some fights the pokemon can just attack twice before you
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It's kind of bullshit how in Pokerogue some fights the pokemon can just attack t...
It’s that they attack before I can even get the option to attack
pastel gull
AHHHHHHHHHHHH
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So I practically start the fight with 2 dead pkm for no reason
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Atleast I have a master ball in my new run
But knowing my luck ima get literally no master ball worth pkm
Also
I swear
I SWEAR
ivys first fight is at wave 7
But this fight was on 8
Am I just tripping?
lavish dune
What're your shinies?
If it makes you feel better, my druddigon run got ruined by an azumaril because none of my grass types evolved
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Oh lemme show one sec
Dude flamigo has been a staple in every rin
Run
Moxie is broken
And it gets triple axel as an egg move which helps a lot with ray ray
And overall is just amazing
solemn laurel
I DESPISE VOLCORONA
…don’t play Insurgence then…
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…don’t play Insurgence then…
Talking about pokerouge
lavish dune
…don’t play Insurgence then…
Graveler used Rock Throw!
solemn laurel
Talking about pokerouge
I’m just warning you, man.
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Ok
solemn laurel
*Graveler used Rock Throw!*
You’ll find out why.
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I fw that blue paras shing
Too bad paras sucks ass cheeks
lavish dune
He's just a little guy
If I can get actual use out of fucking wormadam you can get use out of parasect
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Bro I hate how in my first ever classic run win
I got mega bracelet on wave 45-47
And just never got mega venasuar
Because it just didn’t show up
Holy shit tho
terse pollen
Woah nice team
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Gengar with hypnosis and archludpn clutched up
terse pollen
I still haven't beaten Classic
lavish dune
I haven't even beaten classic yet
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It’s hard bro
lavish dune
I just suck ass
terse pollen
Same Shnurple
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I got really lucky with mega gengar and Allan
terse pollen
One day we will get it
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Alakazam
lavish dune
Alolan sandslash rips ass but he just doesn't have the speed
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Do you have flamigo?
lavish dune
Do you have flamigo?
No, I don't think so
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Darn
Try and get triple axel and moxie
Sweeps entire early game
And still amazing late game
Double kick apparently being one of his only good fighting moves
By lvl up
lavish dune
Well my A-Slash has shift gear, which is +2 speed +1 phys attack, as an egg move
He's incredible the entire game, I just get mad unlucky at the end
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Shelder is an amazing option too
If u can get skill link
That and getting lucky with a early water stone to evolve and get icicle spear is op
Base 125 ice move?
That always hits?
Not to mention shell smash and razor shell from memory mushroom
Shellder is super physically bulky
pastel gull
HALA JUST WASTED HIS Z MOVE ON MY POKEMON WITH 6 HP, HAHAHA
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So even with a shell smash it tanking
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HALA JUST WASTED HIS Z MOVE ON MY POKEMON WITH 6 HP, HAHAHA
I loved the ultra games
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Alolan Sandslash has such bad defensive stats though
Darn
terse pollen
He just dies in one punch, man
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Try out shellder if you have it
pastel gull
I loved the ultra games
havent played them yet (im playing sun rn)
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havent played them yet (im playing sun rn)
Ah poo
pastel gull
He just dies in one punch, man
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Say that again?
lavish dune
It's only weak to fire, ground, and fighting tho
terse pollen
terse pollen
But it's 4x weak to fire and fighting
wild ore
It stinks
But another good suggestion is abra with ice beam or sum
For no reason abra has over 100 base special
And he actually gets confusion at the start
lavish dune
Fury cutter is fun
lavish dune
Snorlax can 1v1 the 145 rayquaza
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I SUFFERED SO HARD BC WHY
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Snorlax can 1v1 the 145 rayquaza
Dude
pastel gull
this hala fight is going so well, Poliwrath got a low roll and didnt OHKO, my discharge does decent damage and paralyses
Halas pussy ass full healed tho
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Flamigo dodged a hurricane and ohko’d the ray ray with a single triple axel
On my winning run
pastel gull
flamigoat
lavish dune
On my run that made it to 195 I stacked quick claws on my alolan eggsecutor
Speedy fuckin tree
Ivy's team is such bs tho full stop
lavish dune
5/6 are boss pokemon with like 2000+ hp
lavish dune
Cheatin hoe
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2 with no hits
terse pollen
Is it just me or is setting up in Pokerogue really hard
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And I got so lucky ray hit himself to kill
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Is it just me or is setting up in Pokerogue really hard
It is
Especially when 1 round later it’s a trainer
lavish dune
Fury cutter, if you can get it going, is fucking monstrous
terse pollen
Also you can't set up hazards before a trainer battle but enemy hazards stay between fights
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Does the player character get a baddie after winning?
lavish dune
i would just set up on a special attacker, because A-slash's passive thing is taking half damage from special attacks as a whole
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She calms down after her crash out
Look how happy she is
Player just has that main character rizz
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JESUS CHRIST
lavish dune
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I accidentally went back to pokerouge with ear phones on and the beep jump scared the shit outa be
Me
Nearly had a heart attack
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Darn
lavish dune
thats why i keep yellin at the eggs
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I forget
lavish dune
a shiny legend would be rad
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I think I got my t3 shiny flamigo from an egg
Yea I think I did
Radz
I love my 1/100 shiny gyrados I chain fished for
lavish dune
aight squad, lets roll out
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aight squad, lets roll out
Wait
Lemme see all ur pkm
I might see if I can help
First tip
Have 1-2 shinies then good mons
Don’t have 1 good mon carries since if it dies the rest get sweeped
Early game
lavish dune
even burmy has fire dance
modern oar
FINALLY
#pokemon-winds-waves please.
pastel gull
it’s for a dlc tho????
fym DLC for an unreleased game
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Watch the official vid
modern oar
Most of those channels don’t show up
You can add them to your channel list by going to id:browse and following it.
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O
lavish dune
Lemme see all ur pkm
sorted by generation (ill be real i stop recognizing the lot of them after gen 7)
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Thx
lavish dune
found flamigo tho, but his ivs are... yeah.
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found flamigo tho, but his ivs are... yeah.
Pretty decent
Idk what mine have
Yours hits harder
lavish dune
Yours hits harder
but its also not shiny, especially RED shiny, and hella slow
wild ore
Eh
Also
Catch a shellder
And pray it has skill link
If it does ur set
Skill link icicle spear cloyster is a monster
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Especially with shell smash and razor shell from memory mushroom
Even better if it’s shiny
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Idk
pastel gull
Kukui's battle theme is peak as fuck
his magnezone did just sweep half my team tho
Bodied him on attempt 2 tho
wish it gave me the chance to get my whole team in at once
lavish dune
i wonder what points do
lavish dune
bolls
noble zealot
Oh, FUCK yeah!
lavish dune
oh shit hi
found olympia and was locked in for a hard battle, just for it to be a sigilyph and a elgym
terse pollen
Nice
Chat thoughts on my current team I'm about to go fight Ivy in 95
I've got a bit of an ice weakness but idk who to swap
pastel gull
Dexio's metagross can OHKO 5/6 with zen headbutt
and outspeed
i think the only way to try kill this thing is by hoping decidueye survives a hit and use its signature Z move
and now i have to deal with his mega alakazam, hopefully i can OHKO
which i did
thankfully
as decidueye wouldn't of lived another hit
brisk hedge
You have 3 super effective moves, 2 of which are physical, against a Pokémon with low physical defence. Of course you OHKOed it
pastel gull
well knowing my luck it wouldve survived on 1HP or something
terse pollen
Donowalled
pastel gull
||Red|| i am NOT prepared for a battle (unless you heal me)
its a 6 VS 4 mid to low health mons
it is a required win tho
so i do get to fight him properly
im 10 levels underlevelled
fuck
on the pikachu tho
took out 4/6 of his team tho
5/6?
oh?
i have a chance here
oh
i actually beat him while underlevelled
tight granite
new pokemon related game...can we like stop
the only reason this ditto face shit even started is cause people cant be bothered to watch anything or understand context...there was like 1 ditto at the start in the anime that couldnt properly transform and so its face didnt transform BUT the norm is that a ditto is a 100% transformation but because people cant be bothered that inperfect face became so huge people now think thats what a ditto looks like...i cant really blame Nintendo for marketing the face cause people are stupid but man im getting annoyed
analog timber
Ditto look like that now BECAUSE it's popular
tight granite
its also just a gripe i have, its a pretty non issue
tight granite
Ditto look like that now BECAUSE it's popular
yeah i said that?
unkempt egret
once a train starts and is embraced by official then sorry, that's the new reality
tight granite
that face became popular so its now used for it despite it starting from 1 ditto who couldnt transform correctly
analog timber
I mean in-universe my HC is that Ditto CAN properly transform, they're just more popular when they don't
lavish dune
new problem
unkempt egret
kinda reminds me of the GS ball being referred to as "you're expected to just forget about that"
lavish dune
im too lucky to get evo stones in pokerogue
analog timber
also this is the only time we've seen a Ditto transform into a human
lavish dune
...Won't even comment on this one.
analog timber
Ditto just wants to be the best trainer it can be
tight granite
I mean in-universe my HC is that Ditto CAN properly transform, they're just more...
we know they can transform properly..till now only plushies have used the derp face cause marketing outside the movie this is now the first offical ditto to use that face
analog timber
I thought the game would be about finding its trainer and be like Detective Pikachu
unkempt egret
also this is the only time we've seen a Ditto transform into a human
I would say US/UM but I think they made it a point to not outright confirm it there
noble zealot
TBH, I think it more properly conveys that it's a Ditto rather than the actual thing.
tight granite
which would be an inproper way
tight granite
I thought the game would be about finding its trainer and be like Detective Pika...
seems to just be animal crossing but pokemon
analog timber
Ditto doesn't seem concerned with the random human belongings or their abandoned Pokédex
lavish dune
ditto is beyond worldly concerns
analog timber
it could be Ditto wants to make the area nicer so their trainer comes back
tight granite
its probably a wild one just playing human
analog timber
ok, but why though? story-wise it makes sense if it's to get its trainer back. If there IS no story and it's just AC, then there's 0 reason to
tight granite
which makes the face part lamer, cause it should be able to do the full face...the best explanation i can do is that this is not ditto transforming into a human but rather it designed its own human form..then the face would make sense it has no face to copy
hoping for customizatuion tho
analog timber
the Pokédex was damaged and you could only see the lower half of the human
tight granite
Having no character customization in a game where you are ditto seems wild
noble zealot
Judging by the in-game screenshots shown so far, there seems to be some degree of customisation.
analog timber
I'd rather it was a more serious game where you need to find the lost trainer
tight granite
well it says its just making a new life with its poke friends
and i think the only reason its human is lazyness, since its very much animal crossing based, i could see it being human is too not have to do any extra movement sicne your just a human model
unkempt egret
ok oleana down in mono normal
got worried when she burned greedent and set up to +6 evasion but thankfully I hit 3 times before my health ran out since it's only offensive move was icy wind
(and probably shadow ball but mono normal so lol)
man I wish greedent got Recycle, heckin held back man
lavish dune
terse pollen
W?
lavish dune
i think so
terse pollen
Awesome
lavish dune
though, not shiny from a shiny up is always at least a minor L
lavish dune
the legendary egg being not shiny was even worse
i cant get a fucking evo stone for my life
its been like 4 runs
unkempt egret
meanwhile I remember just hatching them all in clusters then being like "oh!" when a shiny showed up
lavish dune
beedrill has such a pretty shiny
unkempt egret
then again I sadly remember the best way to get shinies in pokerogue is lategame endless mode which uuuuh
unkempt egret
from what I remember in pokerogue the thing you really wanna focus on are the egg moves you get since most of them are either good utility or turbo strong options
(that being said shiny roll is still the way to go since you get egg moves on em regardless)
lavish dune
a weedle with noxious torque is just funny to me
whenever i use it that one japanese drift song plays in my head
terse pollen
de ja vu
unkempt egret
oh yea a lot of things get the torque moves lol
I think vanilla outright species locks those moves to just the starmobiles
actually what moves even are species locked? I think just those, dark void, and hoopa's moves?
lavish dune
i had a great ball show up and had hope it was a leaf stone, or even a sun stone
then it became an ultra ball and the hope was gone
unkempt egret
technically transform too but only in gen 9 to patch a specific glitch and only blocked for wild pokemon?
unkempt egret
(for reference people were using wild smeargles to basically clone their pokemon, they patched it by making it so that wild smeargles couldn't use transform anymore. still works if you're fighting a trainer)
terse pollen
I don't have a Cryogonal
unkempt egret
also yea 145 ||is the first one and 195 is the second||
terse pollen
The closest thing I have to an ice type is an alakazam with ice beam
lavish dune
i just want a fuckin leaf stone man
terse pollen
Wait but I got a freeze im goated
unkempt egret
https://tenor.com/view/the-only-the-only-cryogonal-gif-on-tenor-cryogonal-pokemo...
the real issue with cryogonal is that you can't find any nice way to fit RGB in there
(that being said it's a nice mon, shame it's so rare in the two maingames it's available)
lavish dune
on a similar note, why can beedrill learn hyper beam
unkempt egret
I did actually hit it in a Y run though and used it to the end lol
unkempt egret
on a similar note, why can beedrill learn hyper beam
most fully evolved mons get both hyper beam and giga impact
lavish dune
JUST GIVE ME A LEAF STONE
terse pollen
This game does NOT want to give you a leaf stone
unkempt egret
apparently gen 9 made it a bit more select but yea
actually I'm gonna see if I can boot up pokerogue myself while shield gets to rest a bit
heckin drampa half-sweeping oleana
lavish dune
_>
a moody bidoof scared the hell out of me
used rollout then got the 2x attack
cheren have mercy
terse pollen
You got this king
terse pollen
That's rough man
lavish dune
litleo slowly beating turtinator to death with its face
Rivalry actually kinda clutch
moon stone, clefable achieved
sweet crypt
I thought this was the event lmao
You probably should've healed instead of rage quitting instantly, I know the game gives an opportunity to do so after that event
sweet crypt
ivys first fight is at wave 7
It's always on Wave 8 BTW you're probably misremembering
sweet crypt
Shelder is an amazing option too
Shellder's great, but the 5 cost is hard to swallow sometimes
Can get it down to 3 though, so that's nice
sweet crypt
THAT CHAIRMAN ROSE HAS A BRITISH MOLTRES FOR NO REASON
All the 165 Evil Team Leaders have a team fat stronger than the base games, the Galarian Moltres can be either of the other Galarian Birds as well
sweet crypt
Flamigo dodged a hurricane and ohko’d the ray ray with a single triple axel
The craziest thing about FlamiGOAT is that if you had Victory Dance, you wouldn't even have needed to dodge, it'd probably just have swept the rival from Turn 1
With like 0 luck involved
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Is it just me or is setting up in Pokerogue really hard
It depends on if you're setting up with something like Pheromosa or something like Lugia
Lugia sets up on everything, even Dark or Ghost types
Pheromosa sets up on nothing, even Bug types
sweet crypt
i would just set up on a special attacker, because A-slash's passive thing is ta...
A-Slash also has high Defence, so honestly as long as you aren't setting up on a SE Pokemon you should be fine there
sweet crypt
Don’t have 1 good mon carries since if it dies the rest get sweeped
Nah, if your good mon is good enough, it won't die
Ever
Nevertheless I do usually have a backup carry in case the main carry dies
Because it's always better to be safe rather than sorry
sweet crypt
i wonder what points do
Currently jack shit but there's plans to make it do not jack shit
sweet crypt
Chat thoughts on my current team I'm about to go fight Ivy in 95
This team's kinda fucking cracked ngl, though it lacks a consistent answer to a few major bosses
sweet crypt
though, not shiny from a shiny up is always at least a minor L
As a general tip, if you're new to the game, don't worry about shinies and gamble on either Legendary or Rare Egg Move Up
Luck alone can't and won't get you a win
At best it can optimise runs
At worst it will do absolutely nothing
Because RNG is a bitch
And ultimately lowering the chance for bad RNG doesn't remove it altogether
unkempt egret
as a streamer I watch put it: "statistics don't owe you [CENSORED]"
covert fiber
so.. infinite fusion people
how good are we eating after ||today's nintendo direct||
sweet crypt
Case in point
unkempt egret
I forget what does pokerus do again in Pokerogue
sweet crypt
I forget what does pokerus do again in Pokerogue
Doubles EXP gain instead of EV gain I believe
Though I've consistently been able to get to level cap even without it
Except for early game
So investing in a Pokemon with Pokerus is more of an early game endeavor imo
unkempt egret
makes sense
I recall ususally just picking one to start a run and in this case uh
I dunno I'm feelin' Snom.
the super rare egg move is green I'm gonna kindly assume it's Strength Sap or Seed Flare
ok so luck boosters uuuuh
sweet crypt
the super rare egg move is green I'm gonna _kindly_ assume it's Strength Sap or ...
It's Spore lmao
unkempt egret
unkempt egret
It's Spore lmao
I could see that too yea
heckin blue duck
Ponyta is usually a safe backup considering it's got magic guard and a ton of recoil moves
sweet crypt
If you use Snom against the final boss, it can actually do shit there
Especially if you use Tera, or the boss forgets the type chart
Which it often does
It's actually ridiculous how many times the boss just decides to use the worst move it could use vs me
unkempt egret
wait OOPS I forgot I had flip mode on rofl
well at least snom gets to keep ice scales regardless?
oh gosh bronzong turned into such a glass cannon rofl
sweet crypt
Keep in mind that Snom is a friendship evo at night
This is because it is a fucking annoying evolution
sweet crypt
It's fine you have Heal Order and Earth Power
And Struggle Bug
You beat Bulbasaur
The bird on the other hand...
Struggle Bug's actually only slightly weaker than EP with STAB
And lowers SpA which maybe is relevant idk
sweet crypt
What
unkempt egret
The bird on the other hand...
it was hoothoot but bronzong handled it
I'm not sure I got blown up by frustration then reloaded for... that.
oh that was fast
erm uh-oh problem
flip mode happened rofl
sweet crypt
flip mode happened rofl
Oops!
unkempt egret
shoutouts to the screaming mienshao with the 105/60/95/60/125/65 stat spread
...also is mienshao's special attack stat really 95? dang
the mode where those random Balloon pokemon get to have fun
sweet crypt
shoutouts to the screaming mienshao with the 105/60/95/60/125/65 stat spread
Stall Mienshao goes crazy
Has Regenerator too, even
unkempt egret
ROFL
bugsy sends out shuckle, instantly explodes to farfetch'd aerial ace
with defenses of 5/10/10 I'm not sure what he was expecting there
...what?
why was there an achievement for beating a breeder in the space biome?
sweet crypt
why was there an achievement for beating a breeder in the space biome?
Probably a reference to something
viscid pelican
Friend of mine noticed what might be some new Mega Stones in the new trailer
Seems like Swalot, Clawitzer or Crabominable? and Flygon or Yanmega
unkempt egret
Crabdominable would be a choice considering it's a post gen 6 mon
(though LA also had some post gen 4 mons get new stuff too so maybe)
I can 100% see that last one being yanmega though considering the color scheme matches
tight granite
Friend of mine noticed what might be some new Mega Stones in the new trailer
i mean its a dlc called mega dimensions..and the animation was a bunch of mega stones twriling around...it will contain a bunch of new megas
i would say minimum 10
also #pokemon-winds-waves
unkempt egret
rofl the heck is this doing on the seabed (also tera ground was a hysterical find)
sweet crypt
rofl the heck is this doing on the seabed (also tera ground was a hysterical fin...
Golden bug net
unkempt egret
oh
i got prank'ed ||a parasect showed up with the pixie theme from gen 4||
turns out ||uxie gained illusion as a passive at some point||
unkempt egret
there we go that wasn't too bad. tera ground too stronk.
even with frosmoth's special attack bonked down to 60 rofl
sweet crypt
Just saw someone say that 3D took away all of Archeops' personality and like
Bro are you deadass
Of all Pokemon you pick for this you pick one that does the exact opposite of what you're trying to preach
Are you trolling
It's like the time MandJTV said that Archeops is portrayed poorly in 3D since we know it's a great, competent flier
When that's like
Literally the opposite of what Archeops is
simple quartz
I do hate Archeops im 3D tbh but like
To say it took out it's personality is wronge
terse pollen
This team's kinda fucking cracked ngl, though it lacks a consistent answer to a ...
Any advice on who to swap out?
I wanted a replacement for Rapidash but couldn't find a good fire type
This is what my team looks like now, I'm fighting Maxie in round 165
sweet crypt
Any advice on who to swap out?
Context is pretty important, idk what egg moves or passives or even normal movesets you have
terse pollen
I have Passives for Rotom and Alakazam
sweet crypt
And I also don't know what Pokemon your Rival has
sweet crypt
My rival has an Incineroar I remember
Do you remember the bird?
terse pollen
No 😭
sweet crypt
Darn
For future reference, always take note of what Pokemon the rival gets
As they are likely to use those Pokemon or their evolutions for the rest of the game
There is what I think is a glitch that allows them to swap Pokemon out
But it's not very common
terse pollen
I'll try, thank you
sweet crypt
I've also never seen the starter get swapped out
And I've only seen the bird swapped out once
(And of course the rival's true ace is guaranteed)
terse pollen
True true
sweet crypt
I'd overall say that the final rival fight is more difficult than the true final boss
terse pollen
Makes sense
sweet crypt
Chances are that if you can beat the former your team can beat the latter, and once you know of the latter it is trivially easy to beat it
sweet crypt
Don't be too discouraged if you fail to beat either final boss, simply start over with a plan on how to get past those 2 final battles
terse pollen
Man starting a new run is so demoralizing 😭
sweet crypt
Anyways Maxie got hands
I'd say the evil team leader is the 3rd hardest singular battle in the game
terse pollen
For real
sweet crypt
(Specifically the one at 165)
Though there is a segment I'd say is harder than it that doesn't consist of a singular trainer
terse pollen
Which one?
sweet crypt
180 to 190
terse pollen
Oh deer
sweet crypt
Make sure you have plenty of money going into that segment
Since you're gonna want to use it for mostly heals
terse pollen
Pain
sweet crypt
Money Management and remembering when to heal is the true final boss tbh
terse pollen
So true
sweet crypt
Oh right I still have an Eternatus run up
I was speedrunning the game while waiting for steam servers to stop dying when Silksong released
terse pollen
skong
inland crane
Should I try to beat Lets Go Pikachu with only Pikachu and Raichu?
past cairn
Should I try to beat Lets Go Pikachu with only Pikachu and Raichu?
You can absolutely beat that game with only Pikachu and raichu I beat that entire elite 4 and champion with just Pikachu and never even healed mid battle
That game really holds your hand the whole time in battles
past cairn
But can I go past brock first
Yeah I think he learns double kick for some reason
Partner Pikachu is effectively a mega since it's 100bst higher
Partner Pikachu has 120 speed
It learns tbolt at 21 and THUNDER at 30 wtf were they thinking
sweet crypt
You can absolutely beat that game with only Pikachu and raichu I beat that entir...
I feel like this says more about how easy the game is than how good Pikachu is
sweet crypt
Partner Pikachu's stats are really good for early game but apart from speed the stats kinda just aren't good in late game
But this is all relative to like
Other Pokemon
Rather than relative to how difficult the game is
past cairn
Partner Pikachu's stats are really good for early game but apart from speed the ...
They for sure make up for that with all the love mechanics and op moves it gets and with 120 speed it's gonna outspeed almost everything in Kanto
sweet crypt
And considering how Let's Go is easier than most of the other mainline games which are already easy at a baseline
Uhh
Yeah no of course it's gonna work
And yeah it has OP moves
The funny thing is that Zippy Zap in particular is even more broken in Gen 8
... Where it isn't even able to be selected in battle
Or obtained
past cairn
If I remember right the electric one has some bs like guaranteed crit, paralysis and chance to flinch or smth
sweet crypt
If I remember right the electric one has some bs like guaranteed crit, paralysis...
Zippy Zap is 50 BP with +2 priority that always crits
sweet crypt
Pika Papow is a Return clone
past cairn
The water one is 1/3 chance to paralyze
sweet crypt
And Buzzy Buzz is Nuzzle but with 60 BP
Though Buzzy Buzz is Eevee's move
Well, one of them
past cairn
And flying is 1/3 to flinch
sweet crypt
All 3 are broken
And tbh if I'm using a fucking Eevee or Pikachu my moves better be good
Because like
It's Eevee and Pikachu
Zippy Zap instead has 80 BP and a guaranteed evasion boost in Gen 8
past cairn
And if U compare it's LVL up movepool with gym leaders and when U get TMS there's always a perfect move to beat almost any major battle
sweet crypt
Giving it higher effective damage and the power of abusing the most broken stat in the game
Why they changed the move details in a gen it is unobtainable, I have no clue
But uhh
They did
past cairn
Double kick for Brock, tbolt for misty, dig for surge, floaty fall for Erika, dig again for koga, splishy splash for blaine and splishy splash for Giovanni
Only exception is Sabrina but there's never really been anything for her in Kanto
Like why don't they just sell ya the screenshot that you've become champion at that point
Save us the time
sweet crypt
Holy shit I just OHKOd the Pokerogue Rival's Ace with a resisted move
Passimian actually putting in work
I was not expecting it to be able to solo the 195 rival like that
pastel gull
I really hope new shoe options are avalible before the final island in US/UM
inland crane
Only exception is Sabrina but there's never really been anything for her in Kant...
alolan form npc trades cover her too
past cairn
alolan form npc trades cover her too
We were just talking about solo partner Pikachu
pastel gull
this rockruff is the best thing added in US/UM
pastel gull
I really hope new shoe options are avalible before the final island in US/UM
Shoes on the second island, everything except a ribbon thingy actually
thats a great change
narrow pine
Been replaying Re:Sun and got a pretty good team so far. Balance changes go brr
lunar niche
As I keeping up my main story progress in Pokemon Black 2, I noticed that Pokedex is showing some newly appeared evolved pokemon which was from the previous places I went to. Does it mean to tell you to go back and capture those evolved pokemon?
inland crane
I just noticed while looking at other stuff at bulbapedia
oh I noticed there is a channel for that
covert fiber
Friend of mine noticed what might be some new Mega Stones in the new trailer
||galarian starters maybe? one might be empoleon but i just have high hopes||
someone said there was a red and white one
modern oar
||galarian starters maybe? one might be empoleon but i just have high hopes||
||Wouldn't be Galarian since Kalos is a completely different region to Galar, and I doubt they'd add regional forms that are from a region that the game doesn't take place in.||
covert fiber
||Wouldn't be Galarian since Kalos is a completely different region to Galar, an...
||i mean tbf its a legends game and they gave us 3 starters outside of the kalos region so i have hope||
brisk hedge
||i mean tbf its a legends game and they gave us 3 starters outside of the kalos...
||Legends Arceus also gave us 3 starters outside of the Sinnoh/Hisui region, and no others||
modern oar
||i mean tbf its a legends game and they gave us 3 starters outside of the kalos...
||I was meaning there will be no Galarian forms, but there may be Kalosian forms.||
brisk hedge
||I was meaning there will be no Galarian forms, but there may be Kalosian forms...
||if they were going to do Kalosian forms, they would’ve announced one by now||
unkempt egret
nooo you're capped at 3 quick claws on pokerogue
rip the dream of 100% priority Moves First
modern oar
||if they were going to do Kalosian forms, they would’ve announced one by now||
||I was just saying that they could, not that they will.||
hidden heart
If you have pokemon go pls add me PFFBKDM42
pastel gull
team so far
guys, i think this guy likes pikachu
solemn laurel
Finally got logged into PokeRogue to play it. It’s hella good. Current best is floor 75 (I don’t competitive battle well)
unkempt egret
oh right I should note I'm playing the offline client which might explain some things lol
pastel gull
i thought totem lurantis was bad in sun/moon
its even WORSE in US/UM
The ally ciomfey spams sunny dayy, the healing move, and bring lurantis up to max defence, and lurantis spams solar blade and synthesis
only think i can possible think of is to spam heal my charjabug until all both of their usefull PP is gone
brisk hedge
I struggled with it in both games
unkempt egret
I can see lurantis depending heavily on what you have and if its supports get to be too much
since rock + grass is a nightmare to deal with offense-wise
pastel gull
I can see lurantis depending heavily on what you have and if its supports get to...
well this is my current team
lurantis cripples inkay and Brionne
unkempt egret
mimikyu on the other hand is uh "cheese it or you die"
does growly have intimidate?
pastel gull
nope
sweet crypt
Totem Araquanid is kinda fucking terrifying based on trying to route a nuzlocke
pastel gull
flash fire
unkempt egret
rip
sweet crypt
A lot of the totems in general are just far more difficult than gyms could ever hope to be
brisk hedge
I struggled with it in both games
It is immune to the first hit, letting it summon an ally before you can even damage it, plus it has a Lum berry, so you can’t even status it 1st turn
unkempt egret
especially with the whole enemy EVs thing
brisk hedge
And it does dummy damage
pastel gull
rip
it can do solid damage, but it goes down pretty quickly, and then all its damage is undone by synthesis. charjabug can easily tank X scissor and solar blade, but does minimal damage that gets healed instantly
sweet crypt
Anyways only extremely distantly related to USUM
But ngl, if Lunala got Calm Mind as an egg move in Pokerogue I'd celebrate
Which sounds very weird since Calm Mind is a move Lunala already gets
But it'd remove the RNG of needing it from TMs
And tbh, all Lunala needs to solo Pokerogue are level up moves, Calm Mind and a way to not fucking die when you're stuck with Cosmog
In the past it had Quiver Dance and while losing it sucks, it doesn't suck as bad as I used to think
Because most of the Pokemon Lunala fears are already slower than it like Kingambit
Kingambit is the one Pokemon Lunala can't 1v1 in Pokerogue
... Well, unless you get Focus Blast as a TM
pastel gull
fucking hell i have to redo ALL of mallows trial every time i die to lurantis??
sweet crypt
Not having the speed boost matters for the Rival's Ace, but if you keep Shadow Shield up not even that will be able to OHKO you
And if you know how to use a Lunala, you're already at +6 and ready to OHKO in retaliation
You can also use Tera to circumvent the Dark and Ghost quad weaknesses in a worst case scenario
Really the only reason for Lunala to be considered bad is because Cosmoem's evolution is literally just luck based in what is perhaps the worst deviation from the mainline games of all time
And if you don't get lucky, go fuck yourself lmao
pastel gull
WOO
pastel gull
also took out the comfey as fast as i could
sweet crypt
OK but seriously Power Herb Solar Blade is crazy
sweet crypt
I doubt even Growlithe takes that well
It probably takes like 40% minimum or something
Well without the Burn
pastel gull
I doubt even Growlithe takes that well
without the burn it goes down within about 3 turns
Charjabug takes both X scissor and solar blade like a champ
pastel gull
fr
sweet crypt
I dont think Charjabug Spark 2HKOs after the Wacan
And especially not if it summons Masquerain
And I'm pretty sure that at equal levels, Araquanid does 2HKO back
While also being faster
OK wow they both do a lot less than I remembered
pastel gull
it took me a few attempts but overlevelling my charjabug was the only chance i had
sweet crypt
Charjabug probably doesn't even 3HKO
That's actually silly
OH THAT'S WHY
252 FUCKING DEFENCE EVS
I FORGOT IT HAD THAT LMAO
pastel gull
this is like when the elite 4 had insane stats EVs and held items in BDSP
sweet crypt
Yknow EVs really do help in explaining why the trials are so difficult
pastel gull
but for the whole game
unkempt egret
yuuuup that's why gen 7 is harder than any other gen besides BDSP: enemy EVs
sweet crypt
yuuuup that's why gen 7 is harder than any other gen besides BDSP: enemy EVs
Idk I feel like USUM is harder
unkempt egret
(technically gen 9 has enemy EVs too but it's just 252 HP on tera bosses to make sure they stick around longer)
sweet crypt
Because the only difficult part of BDSP is the Elite 4
And Champion
You're facing extremely strong EVd Totems from the beginning
unkempt egret
yea BDSP is nice in that the Evs there at least scale to progress which imo is a nice way to handle it
while gen 7 just throws you into the deep end of the pool the moment you get to... ilima's first fight I think
sweet crypt
yea BDSP is nice in that the Evs there at least scale to progress which imo is a...
There's no scaling for EVs in BDSP iirc
I'm pretty sure that it just
Jumps from 0 EVs to a lot of EVs
At the Elite 4
unkempt egret
ah I thought it was something like early game had like... 48/48 spreads and it keeps going from there
pastel gull
FUCKKK the Kecleon had ancient power AND got the omni boost
unkempt egret
rip
sweet crypt
The totems do have some sort of EV scaling as well
With the earlier ones not having as many EVs
pastel gull
i might still win if both X scissor AND whatever Kecleon uses somehow miss or something
wait i have revives
sweet crypt
Gumshoos has 160 total while Ribombee has 510, the max
... AND ALSO A +2 FUCKING OMNIBOOST???
For reference Gumshoos' stat boost is simply 1 stage of Defence
Araquanid's is 1 stage of Speed
I think A-Marowak's is 2 stages of Speed
Heck even Ultra Necrozma only has 1 omniboost
pastel gull
this might be it, i THINK lurantis is out of synthesis PP, and charjabug can probably survive an X scissor and dizzy punch
sweet crypt
That said Ultra Necrozma at a base is more threatening than Ribombee
I see some people saying that Bisharp hardwalls Ultra Necrozma
pastel gull
KECLEON USED SCREECH, IT THREW
sweet crypt
And let me tell you right now
That's a load of horseshit
Bisharp takes 60 to 70% from Dragon Pulse
It gets easily 2HKOd by Ultra Necrozma on the resisted move
Who needs neutral attacks anyways?
Speaking of Necrozma, all of its EVs go into bulk
Which helps explain why it feels like a fat fucking wall, despite not having great bulk, only really good for OU standards
Well, that and the omniboost
unkempt egret
I was gonna say ultra necro is definitley "cheese it or you die"
sweet crypt
I was gonna say ultra necro is _definitley_ "cheese it or you die"
I mean, Bisharp does tank a singular hit
unkempt egret
which in the one run I did of US/UM in my case was FEAR'ed since it lacks any non-attacking move
sweet crypt
You could realistically hit it with Toxic there
And idk if I'd consider Toxic as cheese
Maybe?idk
unkempt egret
I was about to say yea toxic is a viable option there
unkempt egret
since yea if you land it then it faints in... 7 turns?
I know a lot of people also use Illusion as well if they got zorua
sweet crypt
So you just bring a bunch of bulky Toxic Steel types
unkempt egret
going by how IF handles it then you'd probably just need uh
two or three with protect?
sweet crypt
I know a lot of people also use Illusion as well if they got zorua
The fun part is that if you decide to allow the Trainer School encounter despite it technically being route 1, you still only have a 30% chance of getting Zorua
So 70% of the time you still need to revert to throwing a bunch of bulky Steels at Necrozma as sacrifices
And spamming Protect
And of course that's assuming you even get to Ultra Necrozma on your Nuzlocke
When you're dealing with stuff like Teacher Emily's SE starter, the many extremely rough Totem battles like Araquanid and whatnot
unkempt egret
also I recall the early furfrou fight right after totem gumshoos being a problem if you lack a special attacker
kinda like a diet version of the double furf fight in XY except mandatory
sweet crypt
Could you imagine if Araquanid's water move was like
Bubble Beam instead of Bubble?
80 BP all the way to 130, taking Water Bubble into account
unkempt egret
I misread that as first lol but yea that's such a huge move when you're at level like... 22 at most I think?
sweet crypt
I misread that as first lol but yea that's such a huge move when you're at level...
Level cap at Araquanid is 20
pastel gull
this is a huge thing for something in the future
sweet crypt
Would've been nice if Gyarados was available but you can only get it directly after beating Araquanid
pastel gull
whatever it may be
unkempt egret
forgot if US/UM raised the cap there or not since it was also 20 in SM
sweet crypt
Water Bubble really would've been so broken if it wasn't on Araquanid
Feels like a rare instance of Gamefreak actually balancing somewhat
Like I see some mfs putting Water Bubble on like Inteleon and shit and like
Fuck no
252 SpA Choice Specs Water Bubble Inteleon Hydro Pump vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 306-360 (46.9 - 55.2%) -- 14.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Being capable of 2HKOing Blissey raw is foul
With a neutral special move, I mean
And this is a Water move, too
Which means...
252 SpA Choice Specs Water Bubble Tera Water Inteleon Hydro Pump vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey in Rain: 612-720 (93.8 - 110.4%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
Water Bubble is broken as fuck
That's the TLDR
unkempt egret
meanwhile in pokerogue
this feels like playing death road to canada and seeing the phrase "X hotwries a golf ball collector" pop up
(for reference both events skip a very annoying and dangerous choice)
terse pollen
Never seen that event before
unkempt egret
tempted to say it's only in Volcano
terse pollen
Makes sense
sweet crypt
tempted to say it's only in Volcano
It is to my knowledge
sweet crypt
And yeah no if you don't have a heat resistant Pokemon prepare to get annihilated from existence by 2 fucking Volcarona
unkempt egret
oh my run is not gonna have fun there I had to pivot from ferrothorn to chandelure in this run because my rival picked up skeledrige as their starter
sweet crypt
Unless your team is solid
unkempt egret
(gen 5 only challenge)
sweet crypt
Then just beat the fuck out of them
unkempt egret
or have your entire team eat an immediate burn or something like that
sweet crypt
2 volcarona? holy hell
The event used to be even harder
Currently they get a +1 SpD and Speed boost on event start
In the past, it was a full blown Quiver Dance boost
2 fucking Quiver Dance Volcaronas
"Holy shit"
But yeah usually I have the Pokemon to simply beat both Volcarona
Helps that I have a shitload of unlocks and usually tend to use Pokemon that I think could be good
And very often, my intuition is correct
sweet crypt
game C'mon I just want a DNA splicer
DNA Splicers: You never get them when you want to get them, and always get them when every fusion possibility sabotages the run in some way
unkempt egret
THE RETURN.
sweet crypt
Can't remember what I did for my Gen 5 only run
But if I had to guess, Volcarona was probably involved
Idk what to say Volcarona's just the GOAT
sweet crypt
Bro Ivy is kicking my ass
I'd say that this is the absolute hardest fight of the game
terse pollen
Yeah Idk what to do
sweet crypt
I got the rare V-create rayquaza this run
It's so funny to me that technically that is completely 100% legal in a normal Pokemon game
unkempt egret
man ivy REALLY does not want her ursaluna in on chandelure rofl
sweet crypt
Like whenever I see Rayquaza I just fear V-Create no matter the circumstances
unkempt egret
resulted in 3 things getting hit with sappy seed
sweet crypt
Pokerogue or not
And it's so silly
Because like
Why did they even fucking give Rayquaza V-Create in the first place
Even if it's only via event
pastel gull
it would be frunny if on an emulator, Inkay would evolve if you physically flipped your entire monitor upside down
sweet crypt
Hmm... Victini comes in the generation before X and Y
sweet crypt
But V is not the letter before X
Where is our mythical starting with W with the signature move W-Destroy, Gamefreak?
terse pollen
Wumbos
pastel gull
trying to find a nice cut in the alola games makes me realise how much i miss the option to Preview a hairstyle before sinking 4k into something
spent 12k trying a new cut, disliking it, then something else, disliking that, and back
brisk hedge
You could just save scum it
pastel gull
good idea
pastel gull
replacing the save data somehow refreshed my PC background
usually it shows up as black even tho i have a custom wallpaper set
pastel gull
as rotom would say, "It's like we're playing bingo over here! Zz-zz-zz!"
unkempt egret
the unova run literally chipped 195 ray down to 0 with one leech seed application and a bunch of spiky shielding
terse pollen
Big stall wins again
sweet crypt
the unova run literally chipped 195 ray down to 0 with one leech seed applicatio...
That's because Ferrothorn's simply the FerroGOAT
Can't believe that it's facing such damning false accusations in these trying times
unkempt egret
eternatus came down to chandelure getting to +6 evasion and just spamming moves until it left
pastel gull
i wish these trees didnt chuck out a pokemon every single time i reload the route
unkempt egret
...even with the -120 BST from the shuckle event
sweet crypt
Ngl Volcarona probably 1v1s Eternatus
Most Pokemon with a way to boost an offensive stat and SpD while being able to heal can
And Volcarona's one of the better ones
Eternatus is kinda a fraud in Pokerogue
And the sad thing is, it's the strongest fraud we could possibly fight
Ultra Necrozma would be like
A gigafraud
terse pollen
BIG STALL WINS
Confuse + Paralysis goated
Alakazam hard carried me the entire run
pastel gull
woah i turned my monitor upside down and inkay evolved (comedic joke)
pastel gull
predicting to get into the red or OHKO here
half health
a nice easy totem mon for once
went down in 4 bulldozes
and a quick inferno overdrive on the skarmory and its over
noble zealot
There we go. Squirtle, here I come!
That ain't gonna work.
Well... it wouldn't have worked on the Pokémon I had out before I switched to Braixen, either...
noble zealot
The demon... has been awoken.
noble zealot
Seems like catching Levi is a good enough place to stop.
dim ferry
terse pollen
But what if you get a shiny eternatus you can't catch 
terse pollen
Why am I getting my ass kicked so thoroughly in endless mode
unkempt egret
endless mode does scale very aggressivley in earlygame
oftentimes just catching what you run into can be the only way to get a run going
terse pollen
I didn't think about doing that
terse pollen
Those guys also kicked my ass when I first played dark souls
lavish dune
Those guys also kicked my ass when I first played dark souls
Imagine not parrying, nerd
terse pollen
parrying hard
lavish dune
Imma take a short break from rogue for a few hours to play something relaxing like Mario Galaxy
And elden ring
Or hell divers
Basically anything not luck dependent
vocal lantern
anyone know of any games like mega power/glazed reborn/elite redux that has permanent mega evolution? I have beaten MP and GR, but not too big a fan of elite redux having multiple abilities
twilit rapids
this bum ahh game istg
twilit rapids
anyone know of any games like mega power/glazed reborn/elite redux that has perm...
pokerouge has permanent megas
lavish dune
oh that attack IV is NICE
lavish dune
But flamigo is amazing super early with moxie
aaaand just like that my flamigo is viable
itd be funny if shell bell healed from confusion damage
ivy fuckin cheated she had a level 17 pidgeyotto
it evolves at 18
please evolve, youre level 20
sweet crypt
this bum ahh game istg
Why do you not have Sunsteel Strike
twilit rapids
Why do you not have Sunsteel Strike
It was out of pp and it was also extremely unreliable for some reason
sweet crypt
It was out of pp and it was also extremely unreliable for some reason
Simply buy Ethers then idk
twilit rapids
Simply buy Ethers then idk
I had no money
sweet crypt
Sunsteel's damage is just far higher than Flash Cannon's
twilit rapids
Flash cannon is more reliable imo
sweet crypt
I had no money
Then you may want to learn how to use your money better
sweet crypt
Flash cannon is more reliable imo
Also how
Both are 100% accurate
The only difference is that Sunsteel Strike does a ton more damage
And has less PP
twilit rapids
Because the area was one that steel types were super effective against
sweet crypt
Because the area was one that steel types were super effective against
Both Sunsteel Strike and Flash Cannon are Steel type moves
I do not get what you're getting at here
Sunsteel is arguably more reliable even since it can OHKO even Sturdy Pokemon
And a lot of Sturdy Pokemon are weak to Steel
lavish dune
sheer force druddigon is great
which is nice because my sandshrew is level 50 and hasnt gotten an ice stone
sorry, 52
and clefairy is 51
smoky gyro
Is there an ability where it gives you 2x power if you switch in after one of your mon dies?
Sort of like stakeout, like a one turn 2x power boost
I know theres the move retaliate but I want an ability for it on TOP of that
supple basalt
....Why? Being able to toggle it off made for some really pretty screenshots...
supple basalt
4x dark weakness be like that :>
pastel gull
went from taking out the totem kommo o with 2 moon blasts to OHKOing dawn wings necrozma
easy
totem lurantis harder than both
uh oh
ultra warp holes rely on you pshycially tilting the DS
im on a pc emulator wtf do i do?
brisk hedge
im on a pc emulator wtf do i do?
I’m pretty sure there’s an option in the game settings to turn off gyro controls
unkempt egret
yea it's in uuuuh heahea city I think?
the place that the plot requires you to randomly go into at one point
rugged comet
totem lurantis harder than both
True
rugged comet
Especially if you pick popplio for starter
pastel gull
like me
although it looks like primarina will be a huge help with ultra necrozma
level 60....? zoinks
one shot
and im dead
i think its gonna OHKO my entire team
i see it outspeeds my entire team too
Outspeeds and OHKOs everyone with powergem or photon geyser
fucking genius
pastel gull
congrats
wild ore
Breloom my worst Mon actually killed Steven’s metagross after it killed swampert with giga impact
unkempt egret
fucking genius
you can also run something with sturdy too for the same effect
and if you're allowing healing items you can re-heal it over and over again
pastel gull
you can also run something with sturdy too for the same effect
that too
what pokemon can have the sturdy ability and learn toxic tho
pastel gull
ofc
wild ore
OH SHIT SHE HAS A MEGA BRACELET
OK OK UH
swampert ohkos with rock tomb on her swellow?
pastel gull
zoinks!
