#other-pokemon-games

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sleek jewel
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No it needs to be level 38 in a multiplayer server to evolve

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So many big words

sweet crypt
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Why do people still say Eviolite Chansey is better than Blissey

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I mean maybe it's true in VGC I wouldn't know there

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But I'm pretty sure both are shit in VGC anyways

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And Blissey is just better in Singles and has been ever since HDB was added

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Eviolite in general is kinda overrated

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There's 1 case in Singles where it might make a prevo better than its evolution

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But since it's a case like Chansey vs Blissey in VGC you can't tell whatsoever

devout crag
devout crag
sweet crypt
devout crag
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Yes its a tank

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What else

sweet crypt
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And so is Chansey, but Blissey's just Chansey but it doesn't instantly lose the will to live upon being hit by a singular Knock Off

sweet crypt
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But ever since it lost that, it kinda has been reduced to nothing but a wall

devout crag
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Well we aint in 2012

sweet crypt
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But it's extremely fat so it's still useful, just that it's useful on less teams than in the past

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In the past Blissey could go on like balance teams and shit

devout crag
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If u say it like that pachirisu was able to win a world tournament

sweet crypt
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But nowadays, it is only viable on Stall

sweet crypt
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It's still a viable pick, even if it isn't great anymore

devout crag
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Yeah fair

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Theres just so many better pokemons

sweet crypt
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Pachirisu was never close to being a straight up good Pokemon

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It's just that it had a niche nothing else could fill

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And in just that one scenario, it could put in work

devout crag
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He did win a tournament during the old meta

sweet crypt
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This happens in Singles too

devout crag
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Also wolfeyvgc won a tournament with a fletching

sweet crypt
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Where you can find generally shitty Pokemon at top ladder actually working because the player put in a lot of research on how to make it work

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But that doesn't make it good

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Gen 9 is probably the Blissey line's lowest point in Conpetitive ever

devout crag
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In the end blissey and chansey are gonna be exp farms

sweet crypt
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It is for quite a few Pokemon that previously had an amazing record

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Heatran has fallen

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Garchomp has fallen

devout crag
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coff coff

sweet crypt
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Toxapex has fallen

devout crag
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zacian

sweet crypt
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Tyranitar has fallen

sweet crypt
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At least in Singles

devout crag
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iin doubles

sweet crypt
devout crag
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his brother zamazenta stole the spot

sweet crypt
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Because I know my knowledge in Doubles isn't good

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Zamazenta is still bad in Singles sadly

devout crag
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ion rllly watch single tournaments

sweet crypt
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Body Press did not, in fact, outweigh the nerfs

devout crag
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doubles are more exicting

sweet crypt
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It's a top tier Pokemon in OU

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Which sounds good until you realise that it's a box art legendary

devout crag
sweet crypt
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There's 1 other box art in OU and it's base Kyurem

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It's slightly better than Kyurem though

devout crag
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wait how does team building work in singles

sweet crypt
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Speaking of Kyurem can we talk about how this mf has 3 fucking signature moves

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AND ALL OF THEM ARE GARBAGE

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We have Icy Wind with 10 more BP

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As a move that isn't used for damage

devout crag
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like in doubles u just take the op legg and build a team around him

sweet crypt
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But entirely for support

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And we have 2 2 turn moves

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AKA automatic garbage

devout crag
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fair

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just use kyogre or sum idk

sweet crypt
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Generally for Singles you build the team as a team instead of building around 1 member

devout crag
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like in a normal run

sweet crypt
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Though you can find people building around 1 member for content

devout crag
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fair

sweet crypt
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Because everyone likes seeing people bring Jolteon to OU

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And then instantly sacrificing it

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So that they can get Iron Valiant in safely

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Heck, Gen 9 Pokemon have suffered greatly from powercreep

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... In Gen 9

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Wo-Chien went from like UU/RU all the way down to PU

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As did Flamigo

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Iron Hands is still UUBL though lmao

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If OU's best Pokemon didn't include the likes of Great Tusk, Gliscor and Landorus Therian and if Electric types had actually good physical STAB Iron Hands maybe it'd be OU proper

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Supercell Slam baffles me

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So like

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You click a move that does above average but not quite great damage

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But if you miss at a 10% rate you die instantly

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Because realistically you're either gonna be too slow to ever get another move

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Or instantly die from the follow up attack

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You hit a neutral target for it and they're likely not gonna drop

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Unlike something like HJK

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And you have the same risk of fucking dying as soon as you get predicted and the Ground type comes in

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Like

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Why didn't they just make it a HJK clone instead of a Jump Kick clone

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This question has been asked 500000 times and it'll be asked 500000 times more

devout crag
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what a essay u just wrote

sleek jewel
devout crag
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i got no idea how to

sleek jewel
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I tried NO ONE HELPED

devout crag
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dang

devout crag
devout crag
sleek jewel
devout crag
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ion know then

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search on reddit ig

grand mesa
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sup guys

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i need some pokemon card grading advice

devout crag
grand mesa
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i need opinions on some cards and if i should grade tbh

devout crag
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u could just check the most recents sells for that card maybe?

grand mesa
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i tried some reddits but got no answers

devout crag
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u can check the values on some sites tho

grand mesa
devout crag
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from what i know theres some apps that do it

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but ion got experience

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im prolly the last guy u could ask to

grand mesa
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aight

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thx tho

devout crag
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np

brisk hedge
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Who’s excited for the Pokémon presents tomorrow

devout crag
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they gonna reveal sum shit abt the new game?

brisk hedge
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I assume so

devout crag
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i might watch it

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the game looks fun so far

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besides the starters

devout crag
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think he got this?

stone oar
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uh

devout crag
stone oar
devout crag
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what are the chances

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i suppose im not as creative as i tought

stone oar
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great minds think alike

devout crag
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im as dumb as some1 could think

stone oar
devout crag
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im talking abt myself

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im either smart or dumb

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depends on how i wake up

stone oar
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i know, i said "great minds think alike" implying we're the same so calling yourself dumb calls us both dumb. i won't tolerate slander lol

devout crag
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well today i clearly woke up dumb

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since i sent infernape against ethel's garchomp with earth power

stone oar
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i..can't really refute that.. lmfao

stone oar
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i need ideas for a new team. but i don't know what kind of team

devout crag
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team for what

stone oar
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i dunno i just want to make a new fused team, either revolving around a theme, or a type

devout crag
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make a bug team

stone oar
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what kind of bug team

devout crag
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bug like game bug

stone oar
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like glitchy bug?

devout crag
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ye

stone oar
devout crag
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yeah like hat

delicate hollow
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I'm finding it hard to search for a rom hack or fan game in a new region where you can get nearly 100% of every Pokemon in one playthrough (either before the League or the other half locked behind post game)

unkempt egret
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Viva las Vega is probably close to that (vanilla vega and vega minus both restrict themselves to 150 mons in the maingame)

lavish meteor
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Anyone else play The New Kanto? I'm right before Viridian and I know there's an encounter, but I'm not sure if I'm able to catch the pokemon involved or if I have to defeat it

devout crag
grand mesa
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is no one hear collecting psa cards that knows a bit about grading ?

lavish meteor
devout crag
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dang

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idk then

jagged inlet
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Alieon

devout crag
sleek jewel
sleek jewel
sleek jewel
sleek jewel
noble saffron
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First shiny in brilliant diamond 😄 using radar

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One of my dream shinies

devout crag
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yall they made my boy dirty

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THATS A STUDENT?

sleek jewel
sleek jewel
devout crag
sleek jewel
devout crag
sleek jewel
devout crag
sleek jewel
devout crag
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i cant make myself like SV no matter what

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its 3 hours im trying to enjoy it

sleek jewel
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What team are you going to make

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In sv

devout crag
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im not goin to make it

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i just cant like the game

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i was js gonna go like i usually do

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if its cool and has decent typing its in the team

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like i did with arceus

sleek jewel
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I mean try my team choice

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If you like

devout crag
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ts was the gang

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also i wish i could the sword one but the emulator just kills himself everytime i try to run it

sleek jewel
devout crag
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before deciding to quite SV i had caught a whooper and a starly

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and chose fuecoco

sleek jewel
devout crag
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i was unsure if change staraptor for braviary ngl

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the hisuian form rocks

sleek jewel
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It helped quite a bit

devout crag
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how did u beat that fuckass ethel

sleek jewel
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But my worse one was zoroark

devout crag
sleek jewel
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Idk it was for some reason so bad

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When I played

devout crag
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my weakest by far is infernape

sleek jewel
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Why

devout crag
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everyone he fights just has ground type or flying type moves

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for some reason he gets outspeeded by ethel's garchomp

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even after using a rapid style

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my man gets bullied for nthn

sleek jewel
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Hmm he wasn't at his peak there

devout crag
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when he works hes a menace tho

sleek jewel
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Yeah

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He's my favorite starter

devout crag
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unironically enough my best mon rn is staraptor

sleek jewel
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Here's my platinum team

devout crag
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well at least had

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my platinum cartridge is lost to time

sleek jewel
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Well this was my original but rotom didn't help much

devout crag
sleek jewel
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Vaporeon was a TANK it defeated Cynthia's garchomp

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With ice beam

devout crag
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fair

sleek jewel
devout crag
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yeah maybe

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did u know that vap-

sleek jewel
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It has 4 of the same mons but there the goats

devout crag
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yeah

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ion think anyone never used them

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i cant play pokemon sword anymore💔

sleek jewel
sleek jewel
devout crag
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yuzu just doesnt load

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ryujinx does load the main screen but then crashes

sleek jewel
devout crag
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never seen anyone use rapidash

sleek jewel
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Yeah but some are the same cause there aren't a lot of good mons to use there only in post game

sleek jewel
devout crag
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theres houndoom tho

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he aint shit

sleek jewel
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Hmmmmmm

devout crag
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u can get it right before the fighting type gym

sleek jewel
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Or before cause there's no one blocking there

devout crag
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dang fr?

sleek jewel
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So you can give him exp share

devout crag
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i was sure u had to get there when u had to do the fighting gym

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i gotta replay platinum

sleek jewel
sleek jewel
devout crag
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so quick search and a guy named dude3991 16years ago said that u can get it at route 214

devout crag
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my yuzu is breaking the pc

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it took me 1 min to end it with task manager💔

sleek jewel
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What other pokemon games you played?

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And what were your teams?

devout crag
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the last time i played other main line games was 1 year ago or more

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i mostly play romhacks

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ion remember all the team but i played

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FRLG, HGSS, BW, and USUM

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from what i remember

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also platinum

sleek jewel
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What were your teams there?

devout crag
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black and white i think it was samurott haxorous magnezone roserade darmanitan and i think bisharp

sleek jewel
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If you can name them use this website

devout crag
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usum cant remember them

sleek jewel
devout crag
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this was hgss

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cant remember the others or if i played any other game

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oh yeah i played emerald too

sleek jewel
devout crag
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this was emerald team

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i purposly didnt evolve spheal

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and unironically was useful in very few moments

sleek jewel
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Lg

devout crag
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gtg now

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cyall

hard plume
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who's ready for tomorrow's pokemon direct?

brisk hedge
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Hopefully no Gen 1 Pokémon get megas this time (or regional variants if they do those)

sweet crypt
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If there isn't a Gen 1 Pokemon with a new Mega I'd be thoroughly surprised

brisk hedge
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I can dream can’t I

sweet crypt
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I was gonna say "Then you may want to stay asleep forever" but that sounds like a threat

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So yeah idk

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Just find a Musharna or something to bring your dreams to reality

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There is no way I can remember most of my teams

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I can remember by B2W2 team though, it was Samurott, Lucario, Reuniclus, Krookodile, Volcarona and Darmanitan

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Unless I'm misremembering

narrow pine
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chuckles

novel ibex
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im trying to figure out a 6th team member for my black 2 playthrough, anyone have a mon in mind?

novel ibex
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emboar, krookodile, haxorus, stoutland, magnezone

hybrid dirge
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Any help with downloading pokemon evolved because i tried everything and it still doesn't work on my phone

devout crag
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sphealheehee ?

hybrid dirge
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Game is pokemon uncanny

devout crag
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like uncanny type

narrow pine
# novel ibex emboar, krookodile, haxorus, stoutland, magnezone

If I could be allowed to butt in.

What’s clearly missing is a water type and another special attacker so Magnezone isn’t the only one.

Immediately what comes to mind is Vaporeon, Walrein and Starmie. All great special attacker that can patch up your weakness. Vaporeon is the most bulky and highest SPA. Starmie is the fastest and Walrien has STAB on Ice moves which could be a big help towards any other dragons.

Jellescent and Pelipper also exist but I don’t think work as well.

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I..don't remember what other special waters are in the game pre-Drayden

devout crag
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or just use what u like

novel ibex
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I do like starmie

hybrid dirge
narrow pine
devout crag
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the goat or mewto

devout crag
hybrid dirge
devout crag
hybrid dirge
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The clones have those markings to tell them apart from the real ones

devout crag
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still not better then the original

west gale
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The Mega dragonite is real

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Dragon/flying

tardy solstice
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Man, double-fused Dragonite has a much better sprite than that facepalm

cloud lark
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I'm not going to complain about Mega Dragonite not looking like the hyper idealized version of it I had in my head. I think it's fine, and also I feel like this was always going to disappoint a lot of people who had a specific vision for it

narrow pine
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The body is too samey to normal dragonite

devout crag
noble saffron
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would have been cool if they just gave him 4 wings

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4 angel wings

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but I still kinda like him

hard plume
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oh and another thing
could she be a descendent of dendra?

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also, I got to see the dragonite model
It looks so happy!
I bet it would have an ability that would make it immune to fairy type moves
It looks very angellic

noble saffron
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Are these from a new trailer

hard plume
hybrid dirge
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Justice for Flygon
No mega evolution in the new game

hard plume
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Here's pokemon that I'm guessing would definitely have megas as well
-Arbok
-Scrafty
-Starmie
-Krookodile

hard plume
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HOLY SHIT

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ok you can't catch them yet, BUT, if we can defeat enough of them, we can get them!

unkempt egret
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(give or take spelling)

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we did make it that time and two of these have quad weaknesses so I'm sure we'll figure a strat out. the pokemon community's been (mostly) good with figuring out raid strats

cloud lark
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The only Pokemon I 100 percent believe is getting a Mega is Froslass. It's just wrong that only Glalie has one

quasi dagger
cloud lark
hard plume
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I want to give some names to the dj pikachus

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warm rose
devout crag
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yall what would be realistically talking the hardest main line pokemon game to hardcore nuzlocke

full marsh
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I'd say Legends Arceus, since there are no routes, everything is pokedex base for progression so it'd be sort of hard to properly nuzlocke that game.

devout crag
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well i said mainline

full marsh
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It is mainline from what I've heard

devout crag
full marsh
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Then you got another condition that people add for that one too.

devout crag
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shit mb didnt mean mainline like that

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mean canon

full marsh
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Fair, but what is canon according to the pokemon games?

devout crag
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pretty sure that arceus is the only non canon one

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ignoring the whole group of forgotten games

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how could u possibly hardcore nuzlocke them

full marsh
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Same rules as a Hardcore Nuzlocke but with the rule if your character faints in the game then your run is also over.

devout crag
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yeah kinda fair i think

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but abt those rangers one

full marsh
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If your capture stylist breaks?

devout crag
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what else then

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its just a deathless that point

full marsh
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I'm just theorizing on that one for Rangers

devout crag
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yeah not like anyone is gonna do it

full marsh
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Yeah, though it may be a spin off it was the only way to get a Manaphy legitly in a gen 4 game.

devout crag
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so

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emerald or platinum for a first real hardcore nuzlocke

full marsh
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Yeah, they are the most common ones to do a hardcore nuzlocke in.

devout crag
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realistically talking quite hard

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first gym in emerald is just a run killer if u have the faster starter

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platinum got crazy e4 from what i remember

full marsh
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Monotype hardcore are even more of a killer.

devout crag
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i can imagine

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ill do that in the future

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also in platinum theres her

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Cynthia

full marsh
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A lot of people had their runs ended before getting the Togepi egg in platinum.

devout crag
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lol

full marsh
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Commander Jupiter's Stuntank

devout crag
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platinum is def one of the hardest to hardcore nuzlocke no debate tbh

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with emeral and usum

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from what ive heard abt usum at least

full marsh
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Any gen 2 or the remakes due to the pink devil

devout crag
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well theres quite a few counters u COULD get for her

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like heracross but thats rare

full marsh
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Muscle the Machop

devout crag
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oh yeah

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but

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unless u trade he will get trown away

full marsh
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If you're nuzlocking and you don't get those mons that you need for the trade then you're doomed.

devout crag
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fair enough

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u also get no exp in the games

full marsh
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Yeah

devout crag
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u can forget ur buddy tyranitar 💔

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or a good leveled team

full marsh
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Especially in a hardcore you have to enforce the level cap so you can't over level your mons just to get around them

devout crag
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yes

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but after the pink demon the game is dog water

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besides very few things

full marsh
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Yeah

devout crag
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not in the hardest but almost there

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so do i hardcore nuzlocke emerald or platinum

full marsh
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Emerald your only real threat I think is Norman's Slaking who's BST is higher then Groudon, and Platinum there's Cynthia, Jupiter, and Distortion World Cyrus battle.

devout crag
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u get some of the most op starters in both tho

full marsh
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Yeah

devout crag
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im just gonna spin a wheel

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i would do them both any case

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oh well

full marsh
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Have fun

devout crag
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ye

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js gotta set up melon ds

full marsh
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At least it isn't BDSP's version of the league

devout crag
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yeah

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hollup

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am i a guy or a girl

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spinned a wheel ill be a women

full marsh
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Reminds me back in the day of Gen 1 where there was only 1 gender to choose from.

devout crag
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lol

full marsh
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lol

devout crag
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seeing this black lines everywhere hurts

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nvm fixed

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after a lot of thinking ive came to the conclusion that this is the best starter to use for this hardcore nuzlocke

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say hi to chimchar the first capture

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well i got lucky

glacial plinth
devout crag
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also give me a name for a starly

glacial plinth
devout crag
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male

glacial plinth
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Stanley

devout crag
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k.

unkempt egret
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hardcore is no in-battle items and set mode switching right

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(so what I usually play lol)

devout crag
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yeah

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with the nuzlocke rules

unkempt egret
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good start so far

devout crag
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yeah im thinking on if im fucked with roark

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knowing my luck ill prolly find a ponita instead of machop

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also idk if i should allow myself rare candies

unkempt egret
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Geodude might also work well there, or psyduck if you find one

devout crag
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why the fuck doesnt the rare candy cheat code not working

covert fiber
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We all saw ||that direct|| right?

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||i dont think anyone noticed, but they show a red eyes houndoom. The same red eyes that alpha pokemon have in legends arceus||

devout crag
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maybe new typa raid

covert fiber
devout crag
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it would be so random

covert fiber
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I also have more to talk about

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I remember when people said ||diggersby isnt getting a mega||

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but i noticed something ||in the direct||

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||mawile having the same darkened “unable to mega evolve” circle as diggersby||

covert fiber
devout crag
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plotwist they removed the mega

covert fiber
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Considering how early it got shown

devout crag
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big wide screen

covert fiber
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Damn

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Kinda sad they only showed ||1 mega|| in the direct

brisk hedge
devout crag
brisk hedge
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||At least it was a Pokémon that never got a new form||

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||Cause we all know that the only thing Game Freak likes more than giving new forms to Gen 1 Pokémon is giving forms to Gen 1 Pokémon that already got new forms||

devout crag
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ive seen a video about a guy wanting 10 more forms for charizard

brisk hedge
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I’m assuming he’s being sarcastic

devout crag
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i hope so

brisk hedge
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Or works at Game Freak heehee

devout crag
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he wanted a z form x form y form all of those fused with zygarde and x and y form also fused with zygarde

devout crag
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his bair rlly worked tho

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he had 30k comments

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all falling for the ragebait

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so rn the platinum hardcore is stopped since my ass cant get the rare candies cheat to work

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im moving to emerald

brisk hedge
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You know you could just play the game legitimately, right?

devout crag
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no its for the caps

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i am NOT grinding like 20 pokemons

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and some might be extremely underleveled

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im just to lazy for it

covert fiber
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We dont need gokuzard

devout crag
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lol

covert fiber
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I got a good question about the x and y megas tho

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How would you be able to toggle them

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In lets go pikachu and eevee they put 2 in 1

warm rose
covert fiber
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Maybe held items are back

covert fiber
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I never felt like hunting for these legends

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So im glad we’re getting an event

warm rose
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They're shiny locked so

covert fiber
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Oh i know

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I just didnt feel like getting all of those swords out

brisk hedge
warm rose
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was about to say

devout crag
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made it past the first gym even with mudkip faster then nosepass and 2 levels lower

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marshtomp u rlly hate me dont u

sweet crypt
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(Spoiler Tag: Mega Leak) ||Mega Dnite gives a lot of credibility to the old Mega Leak, so uhh||

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||Yeah Mega Goodra ain't happening||

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||Sorry guys||

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||Goodra needed this Mega so badly, it's kinda dogshit rn||

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||And something tells me a Kalos game would've been the best chance for the Kalos Pseudo Legendary||

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||Anyways, in theory, this confirms Megas for Pokemon like the XY starters, ZA starters, Chandelure, Eelektross and Dragalge, among many others||

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||Another thing that gives credibility to that leak is Team MZ's choice of Pokemon vs the Rogue Mega Ttar||

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||Scraggy, Staryu and Krookodile||

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||All 3 of which have Megas||

narrow pine
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We’ll see

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||Dragonite was a popular choice. Its too easy of a guess that it would’ve gotten a new Mega||

sweet crypt
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||Krookodile isn't there whoops, either ways still has Scrafty and Starmie||

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||So I think this leak is real||

devout crag
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do i fight her

covert fiber
covert fiber
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Clefable isnt in z-a i checked

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Same with drampa and falinks

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Nowhere to be seen

sweet crypt
covert fiber
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All 3 that show gameplay

sweet crypt
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The trailer isn't gonna show every Pokemon it has

covert fiber
sweet crypt
covert fiber
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||they also did this with talonflame||

sweet crypt
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||Krookodile itself didn't receive much attention, being in the background||

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||And the entire segment was going on about rogue Mega Pokemon and Mega Evolving your Pokemon to combat them||

covert fiber
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Oh, now that we got ||mega dragonite|| whats the spritework for double ||dragonite|| fusion gonna look like

narrow pine
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Keep in mind that for the most part ||several ORAS megas also weren't even in ORAS. Beedrill and Pidgeot iirc are either postgame or just straight up trade only||

covert fiber
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Thats actually a bomb dropper for me i used to play that game

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||but that aside, i dont think i saw glalie or froslass in there||

narrow pine
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There's over a thousand at this point

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||You can't show off everything||

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||Is there a part of every ORAS trailer where every Mega pokmeon got time to shine?||

radiant leaf
cloud lark
sweet crypt
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||It's gonna get like 35/35/40 to Attack/SpA/Speed and be fast as fuck but do barely acceptable damage for a Mega||

cloud lark
narrow pine
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This comment is also something to keep in mind:

cloud lark
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|| if that is indeed the list of Megas we're getting, I do appreciate how much less of a popularity contest that list feels like. Aside from the obvious starters, the most popular mons there are probably Scolipede and Falinks. And Dragonite too I suppose||

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|| I do hope a Mega lets Starmie find a place in the meta again. It was always a favorite of mine.||

narrow pine
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||Honestly it would be cool if Starmie got an Ate ability and speed so it can rapid spin in front of Goldengo, middle finger and all||

radiant leaf
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||The character customisation options look good, more excited for those over mega dragonite lol||

unkempt egret
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rather amusingly enough if you teleport to a non-rusturf town before you even talk to them then they'll ambush you outside of Briney's house since that conversation is I think where they register you in the dexnav

cloud lark
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|| I just realized-how exactly is a Mega Zygarde supposed to work when it already has a super powered form?||

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|| especially considering Zygarde Complete's big claim to fame is how dramatically its HP goes up, compared to how no Megas ever get more HP||

sweet crypt
hard plume
cloud lark
# sweet crypt ||All 3 of which have Megas||

|| I just realized if this leak is real it's another generation of Gen 4 getting no later Gen support beyond the stuff that originated in past gens. Being Gen 4 is suffering||

sweet crypt
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||That said, the Gen 1 favouritism is real||

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||Goodra not getting a Mega but Dragonite getting one is so fucking stupid||

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||Goodra is so fucking ass||

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||It needed a Mega||

radiant leaf
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||Goodra got a regional variant last gen so it’s probably not getting anything this gen||

sweet crypt
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||Goodra still needs a buff||

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||And its the fucking Kalos Pseudo, it should've gotten a Mega||

radiant leaf
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||I mean it still might, we don’t know||

sweet crypt
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||Pokemon shouldn't only get attention based on how long they've gone long without it, but only if they need it||

sweet crypt
radiant leaf
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||But leaks are still leaks and can be wrong, plus we’ve only had one mega on that list confirmed||

sweet crypt
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||Staryu and Scraggy got extra attention during the Rogue Mega Ttar Section too||

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||More people are probably gonna be more upset about Flygon or something||

radiant leaf
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||Whatever, I’m still hoping for a mega Pach or a Pach evo||

sweet crypt
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||But Goodra gets hit even harder by this||

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||Which especially hurts when it's the Pseudo Legendary of the region||

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||And a different Pseudo got a Mega||

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||Gamefreak basically spat in the faces of Goodra fans||

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||Actually devastating||

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||Anyways, I don't mind Mega Dnite too much||

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||Though I think it should've taken either the same colour scheme or a more slim body shape to reference Dragonair as well||

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||Given how that's apparently supposed to be a major part about it||

radiant leaf
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||Id think I’d like it more if the head wings replaced the normal wings||

sweet crypt
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||If only it did more to ACTUALLY resemble Dragonair||

cloud lark
sweet crypt
brisk hedge
sweet crypt
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||Putting Gen 4 behind Gens 5 and 6||

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||It's only 1 behind Gen 5 though||

brisk hedge
sweet crypt
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||And the trailer give extra attention to Scraggy and Staryu, both of which have Megas in the leaks||

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||There's like a 10% chance the leaks aren't true||

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||Also Sinnoh only has 5 Megas without the leaks||

brisk hedge
sweet crypt
unkempt egret
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gotta love just random shinies

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shame I can't use it in a nuz since it was in blueberry terrarium but minun's probably one of my favorite teal shinies so I'll take em

viral matrix
simple quartz
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Reading this chat like I'm a low-level employee in SCP Foundation

sleek jewel
sleek jewel
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Ima ruin people's point of view

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Doesn't it look like he has lipstick on?

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Here's a good example

sweet crypt
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No?

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I have always wondered why its teeth and gums are blood red like bro go see a doctor you have bleeding gums

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Well not blood red

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But it is red

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And I'm not entirely sure why

unkempt egret
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hmmm

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seems like wo-chien is a calm nature

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which combined with a certain move in its movelist means it might actually be better to just bite the tablet of ruin nerf and go physical?

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it is only tier 5 though which means a whopping 25 levels below the usual

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I'm not 100% sure why there's a tera dark frosmoth named "bogar" in my box but that'd probably be an okay option for a support considering ice sca-

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this has shield dust.

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...oh I think that was a mon in the nuzlocke where I could only use mons from raid dens

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anyway Fezandipiti seems like the most straightforward "good idea" in my box with SD/light screen/poison jab/...some other support not sure

cloud lark
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Shield Dust is one of those abilities that's just begging to be on a useful Pokemon.

unkempt egret
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other things I might test include an acid spray + tera fire goodra, a bulk up blaziken that blanks the entire moveset, and a swadloon as a pure support

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actually bug/grass/dark isn't too hard to just hard wall

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yea, or not competing with an even better ability like Ice Scales or Compoundeyes

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I think the only mon that uses it somewhat seriously is Sticky Web The Pokemon (aka ribombee)

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I do also have howl ninetales but that's just asking to OHKO myself via flare blitz which is uh a pretty big no-no in raids

sweet crypt
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I'm probably gonna run like Chi-Yu for Wo-Chien

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I'm not sure what its stats look like rn

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But I mean it is the funny calc fish

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And I can't recall if AI trainers can bring Drizzle

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I know they can bring Drought

unkempt egret
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apparently the AI for this is random so justified lucario might be hilarious

sweet crypt
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Which they hopefully won't for Chi-Yu

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If my Kyogre gets counterteamed by Drought Torkoal and I get OHKOd by Tera Fire Overheat in Sun i'm ending it all

unkempt egret
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I don't see drought on the tera AI list?

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I don't see drizzle either so you should be good

sweet crypt
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I know that the AI trainers can bring Torkoal

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So hopefully they don't do that for Chi-Yu's raid

unkempt egret
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are you thinking of camerupt? the fire trainer brings arcanine for the highest raids (camerupt is their middle option)

sweet crypt
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I swear on it

unkempt egret
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huh, bulb isn't showing me anything about a torkoal support

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I think the hardest part about this for me is coming up with a nickname for the fez rofl

sweet crypt
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There's also the chance the Chi-Yu has Sunny Day hardcoded as the first move

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Which in that case then I'm cooked

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I dont have any sort of Rock type that could handle that

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Ground's getting cooked in 1 hit by the fish since it isn't a resist

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I'll probably be using Kyogre on Ting-Lu too despite Ting-Lu's ability

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Besides, if it doesn't have any EVs, it should still be specially frailer or pretty even in bulk

hard plume
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Well the good news is that it doesn't have anything to combat fire, ice or flying type moves

unkempt egret
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if that is what feesh is doing then floatzel can probably outrun and get rain up

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but I'm probably not calcin'g that one until september considering it's the last of the four

unkempt egret
unkempt egret
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65% time left, then a self-clear at 61%

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if you're fast you can probably get the 61% time and 40% HP clears at roughly the same time

hard plume
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friendly reminder that ruination is a move that halves health.

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we're lucky we're dealing with grass snail right now
once we get the snow leopard, we are gonna be experiencing a world of pain

unkempt egret
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yea in theory you could run justified arcanine and pop an immedate +2 off that ruination

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and unlike ninetales it does have raging fury as a non-recoil option

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as for pao I'm not overly concerned since uuuuh

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+2 Lvl 75 0+ Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Throat Chop vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Avalugg: 78-93 (19.7 - 23.6%) -- possible 5HKO

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pretty sure I have a lugg sitting in the box, two now that the chancelocke finished and I have a hisuian form too

hard plume
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luckily all four of these is a fiver
now, if it was a seven star raid...

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hooooo boy

unkempt egret
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I'm headed off for the night but slither wing seems like a good pick too if yours is tera bug and not tera fighting like mine is

sweet crypt
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I love how Ruination does jack shit for Chi-Yu

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Because it is gonna be one shotting you anyways

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Hmm... I don't have Tera Fire on Chi-Yu yet

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I have more than enough shards for it

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But if I don't need to use those then I won't

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I'll try my hand with Ogerpon

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No Foul Play and I'm not weak to Pollen Puff (and will resist it upon Tera)

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I can just swap masks out for the others too with it

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I'll probably still use Kyogre for those actually

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As in, Ting-Lu and Chi-Yu

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That said, Tera Grass with Ivy Cudgel and Horn Leech probably screws Ting-Lu pretty hard

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But Ogerpon will be getting hit too hard by Chi-Yu to have enough time to win after Tera

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No Foul Play on Wo-Chien so that's excellent, I can try to go for SD

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Doing the calcs, Physical moves should be hitting it harder by an extremely small amount

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Yeah no Ogerpon shits on Wo-Chien, I'm still above 2/3rds HP and well on my way to winning

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Live Wo-Chien reaction to me caving its skull in with Ivy Cudgel:

warm rose
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only first few seconds are needed

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i also probably should use other moves than IC at the beginning

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to build up tera

sweet crypt
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It was a good enough run to the point that it could've hit me with Ruination at the start and it wouldn't have mattered, I didn't go below 50%

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Wo-Chien living up to the reputation of easily the weakest Treasure of Ruin no matter the context

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Weakest in VGC, weakest in Singles and soon to be weakest in Tera Raids I'd imagine

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Probably weakest in playthroughs too

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It is just ridiculously less bulky than Ting-Lu while doing less damage than it

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Ting-Lu's bulk is stupid

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155/125 is absurdly high and special matches it with EVs due to the ability

sweet crypt
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Alright, here's some general tips for the Treasure of Ruin raids:
Wo-Chien's effective Physical and Special bulk are extremely similar. It does not matter which side you use, just focus on bringing a Pokemon with a good matchup. You're going to want to Terastalise into one of the types that resist 1 STAB while being Super Effective against Wo-Chien. Wo-Chien here uses primarily Special Attacks. Based on this, some of the best Pokemon (keeping mainly raids with only AI trainers in mind) would likely be Chi-Yu (Tera Fire), Slither Wing (Tera Bug) or Iron Moth (Either same type Tera) or Volcarona (Either same type Tera). All 4 Pokemon deal high damage with relatively high Special bulk

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It's funny to me that all of the Volcarona are good for this

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If I had to guess, Volcarona would be the best out of the bunch due to its self healing and Quiver Dance boosting SpA and SpD

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But you will have to be aware for Snarl lowering SpA

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That said I don't think the AI really chooses one move in particular to spam

sweet crypt
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It didn't for me

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You also will need to look out for the stat resets

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Don't get too greedy with setting up

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Chien-Pao is a fast, hard hitting, frail Physical attacker

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If you have the correct Pokemon, you might be able to end the battle in 1 turn

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Well, 1 attack

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Assuming you're able to weather its hits and set up to +6

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As it isn't released yet, I'm uncertain what moves it'll have

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Kingambit should be great if it doesn't have Sacred Sword, but I believe that is a move Chien-Pao can have

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Kingambit's high physical bulk and resistances to both Ice and Dark, along with its extremely good damage even without Supreme Overlord, should smash right through Chien-Pao

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Kingambit can be a bit tough to get though, but in general you'll be wanting physically bulky Pokemon that resist one or both STABs while hitting Ice for SE with STAB. Types include Fire (Resists Ice), Fighting (Resists Dark) and Steel (Resists Ice). Due to the possibility of Sacred Sword, the best Pokemon for this for now is probably either of the Paldean Tauros. Both have SE STAB and resist the STABs while being neutral to Fighting while being physically bulky with Intimidate. Blaze Tauros is better due to being able to be boosted even further in case you're playing with friends and can get someone to use Sunny Day while having the better STAB in this scenario due to Close Combat cutting into bulk, something that cannot be said about Raging Bull

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Actually wait

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Azumarill's probably better for this

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Since it resists Sacred Sword as well while having Huge Power

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I do think it'd have less bulk

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And you definitely can't do any Belly Drum shenanigans even if you resist Chien-Pao

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It also won't have SE moves

silk citrus
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For wo chein I just spammed bitter blade

sweet crypt
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But like, resisting all the possible moves is nice

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Ting-Lu is extremely, extremely bulky

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You're going to want very hard hitters for it

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It has mammoth amounts of both Physical and Special bulk

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And isn't a slouch when it comes to damage either

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You're going to want absolutely nuclear options to kill it before timer kills you

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Only settle for the hardest hitting Water, Grass or Ice types

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But do not risk getting KOd

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Something like using Belly Drum on Azumarill is scary since Ting-Lu does decent damage and can reset it anyways

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You aren't gonna be getting enough damage off for it to be worth

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Ting-Lu scares me the most out of these

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Since it just has so much bulk

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Absolutely do not hesitate to bring out legendaries against it if possible

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And try not to compromise on bulk for your picks

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Pokemon like Urshifu-Rapid Strike, Intimidate Gyarados, Arceus Grass, Water or Ice (preferably Grass), Palkia, Kyogre, Brute Bonnet, Rillaboom, Zarude, Kyurem, Baxcalibur, Glastrier, Mamoswine, Beartic and even Calyrex Ice and Glaceon to an extent can leverage their great physical bulk to take chunks off of Ting-Lu while staying healthy

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But Glaceon has to look out for its low HP

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And Calyrex for its Dark weakness

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What's also notable is that out of these, only Arceus and Brute Bonnet can heal off damage they take

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Grassy Surge can be helpful for staying healthy

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And boosting Grass damage

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But I'm not too sure how I feel about giving Ting-Lu chip healing

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Chi-Yu is an extreme nuke that will rip chunks off your Pokemon if they don't resist both STABs with efficiency

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Make sure to bring specially bulky Pokemon to take as many hits as possible

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And try to target Chi-Yu's physical side, as it is far frailer there

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A lot of the Water types I listed work here too

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Urshifu may sound like the perfect counter, but it is specially frail and I suspect will get chipped despite the resist in both STABs

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It will be chunking Chi-Yu, however

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The best Pokemon for this is probably going to be Tyranitar, I'd imagine

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Resists Fire and Dark

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Immune to a possible Psychic

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Sandstorm boosts its SpD a lot

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Targets Physical Defence

west gale
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Forgot who mentioned about houndoom with red eyes = Alpha Pokémon are back but yea, Alpha Pokémon back in Za

simple quartz
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What's the gameplay difference in Alpha mons and normal mons

west gale
simple quartz
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So like egg moves?

west gale
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Yea

simple quartz
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TIL

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That's pretty awesome I'm glad they brought it back

devout crag
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shiver me timbers team acqua grunt

unkempt egret
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basically a revamped version of the stinky brilliant pokemon mechanic from sword/shield

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if it is the same then they might also have an increased shiny rate? let me check

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seems not in their case

mighty robin
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What even is the story of ZA anyway?

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I’ll just be safe and use spoiler tags

devout crag
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and rank a gets a wish granted

mighty robin
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||Lumiose City, so it’s obviously in Kalos. There’s AZ, former king of Kalos, ultimate weapon, special Floette, owns a hotel|| and then anything else I missed

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for PLA, there’s hisui, that’s like pre-sinnoh and you gotta unite the two clans together and whatnot, I think it’s okay to talk about the game since it ain’t new anymore

devout crag
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yeah

mighty robin
devout crag
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in hisui ur just untrusted until u reuinte the clans

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and after freeing(?) the kings from their rage

mighty robin
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tho for ZA there’s also ||lumiose city urban redevelopment plan||

mighty robin
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but have I already said the entire plot of ZA? it doesn’t really seem all that interesting

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

devout crag
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not interesting at all

mighty robin
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probably the last interesting game I played beginning to end was SwSh

devout crag
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my last one was pla

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SV has a kinda creative idea to start the game

mighty robin
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because while I did play PLA, I stopped playing after defeating the last noble pokemon

devout crag
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the story didnt get me tho

mighty robin
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game too hard

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😔

devout crag
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😔

mighty robin
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and then I didn’t buy SV

devout crag
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i didnt buy most games at all

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i use an emulator

mighty robin
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so then SwSh is in fact the last interesting game I played beginning to end

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since I never beat PLA main story, and I never played SV

devout crag
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yeah fair

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SV is dogshit

mighty robin
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And I skipped let’s go and BDSP

devout crag
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lets go is just meh

mighty robin
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even though Pearl was my first game

devout crag
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bdsp is bd but with different graphics

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i got over 15 hours on that "remake"

mighty robin
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I might have been spoiled by modern graphics

devout crag
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maybe

mighty robin
devout crag
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but SwSh got real good graphics

mighty robin
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the graphics of BDSP with the chibi characters

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just wasn’t doing it for me with the graphics of the other games

unkempt egret
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and trainer EVs

mighty robin
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they should have done it with the modern graphics instead of the chibi

devout crag
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yeah

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bdsp is just how to NOT do a remake

mighty robin
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in the sense that I think gold/silver had black and white graphics

devout crag
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if thats how u can call it

mighty robin
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but then HG/SS had color and whatnot with their graphics

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which was improving, not just original graphics but better

devout crag
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yaeh

mighty robin
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BDSP should have had graphics of modern games, instead of improved chibi

devout crag
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if it wasnt for the poor choice of pokemons and the lack of exp it would be 11/10

mighty robin
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Unrelated, I might try to do more preparation for my next run of IF, maybe get in a sprite request

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now please hold while I do stuff to explain why I said it in here and not the playthrough channel

devout crag
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-# to be honest i dont rlly care where u say it

mighty robin
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because I’ve been playing a SM/USUM game that I never used, and I’m gonna use my final team in that game for my next team in IF

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and of course I’ll take a few liberties on the pokemon I use in IF

devout crag
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lucky that u can plat the games on a 3ds and not needing to emulate them

mighty robin
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since from that team, Incineroar isn’t in IF, so I’ll probably just use a fire type or a big cat

devout crag
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use houndoomheehee

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same typing but its a dawg

warm rose
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HOLY SHIT I JUST FOUND 3 SHINIES BASICALLY BACK TO BACK

given... i WAS using sparkling encounter 3

but I WASNT EVEN LOOKING FOR IT i was going to roaring moon !!

also it's still a 1 in 683

glacial plinth
brisk hedge
glacial plinth
real robin
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Baby's first shiny fail! (Right at the top on the middle)

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I totally forgot that Let's Go doesn't have a sound effect for shinies

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So I went into autopilot mode listening out for it. I glanced back at the screen at the single worst moment, with the shiny right on the edge of the screen and unable to do anything to stop myself from walking into the loading zone

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Arceus is a cruel, cruel god

brisk hedge
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Arceus doesn’t exist in Let’s Go

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Because it’s a garbage game

real robin
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So Girafina is responsible for my misery

brisk hedge
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GiraTina isn’t in Let’s Go either

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Again, because it’s a garbage game

real robin
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Yeah I agree

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I can't shiny hunt Pidgey anywhere else, if I had a different option I would

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I'm shiny hunting pidgey in preparation for Pokemon ZA, as Mega Pidgeot is my favorite Pokemon. I love its shiny and want to get a low level one to serve kinda like an alternate starter for my ZA playthrough.

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I would have been done if I wasn't dumb...

warm rose
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I have already phased nine times in two sandwiches for a shiny roaring moon

real robin
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Whoop!

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You're better than this that I am

warm rose
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4x Zweilous
4x Sneasel
3x Gible
3x Brute Bonnet
1x Gabite
1x Greavard

real robin
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I don't know what phase means, is it like the pokemon despawned?

unkempt egret
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basically a phase is when you get a shiny that isn't the one you were aiming for (in this case, Roaring Moon)

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so like phase 1 of the plan ended when like a Sneasel showed up, phase 2 ended on a Brute Bonnet, ect, ect

real robin
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Oooooooh

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Damn dude that's a lot of shinies

warm rose
mighty robin
# glacial plinth

game freak: Sorry, but we can’t make mega flygon, because we don’t have any ideas.
Also game freak: makes a low effort mega dragonite

edgy rose
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Anyone have any ideas for how to speed up my hunt for shiny rowlet in sword

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I'm doing masuda method

frank lily
edgy rose
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I caught a shiny panpour on my walk yesterday

brisk hedge
edgy rose
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Yea

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Magmar

brisk hedge
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IDK then, get luckier Trollgar

edgy rose
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😭

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This hunt is pain

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And I need 4

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One for each evolution

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Plus hisuian decidueye

tight granite
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bruh why did Violet get the poopy pants

glad panther
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anyone got any tips for how to speed up the hatching process of an egg in radical red (fire red and other gen 3 tricks would probably work too), I'm currently trying to get the cosmog from the wonder egg in cerulean city

austere niche
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Idk where or who I could ask but I wanted to ask how to make a fakemon game as well as fakemon themselves? I have had the idea for a while now but idk how to start the foundations for it so if some with experience could help me that would be awesome!

unkempt egret
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wow there was so much going on at once in one of the wo-chien raids that it did the dutch angle bit from The Way Home at one point

native trench
shell oak
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Huh. I’d be amazed if you could find one person who thought that.

native trench
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stares in the artwork channel

shell oak
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what it really needed was to not wimp out on the dragonair inspirations

native trench
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honestly i just feel like people redesigning canon is kinda cr*nge. Like if its just for fun thats one thing, but if it's part of that arrogant "I FIXED IT" mindset, it just gives off some vibes...

shell oak
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Tbh I’m tempted to try making a mega sandslash that follows the same design philosophy. One semi significant change, minor details reminiscent pf the prevo, otherwise barely changed

shell oak
native trench
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and honestly the pokemon fandom lately hasn't been very...ahem... mature about anything new being introduced. Luckily the rabid paldea hate seems to have died down for now

shell oak
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Its never even “I tried to take the intent and actually execute it better”, its just “but I wanted it to be RED.”

native trench
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this too shall pass. people will eventually calm down about mega dragonite then the people that like it can talk freely without attacks

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just like raging bolt...oh wait

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i STILL get attacked for liking raging bolt. :/

shell oak
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I’m not outraged or anything about the design, I just think it underdelivered on its premise and doesn’t make a good first impression for what to expect from future mega additions

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The new megas also barely interest me because I want new shinies to hunt

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I already have the shiny dratini line, and I cant hold a mega dragonite in home pr anything anyways. Nothing for me to collect there.

native trench
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yeah imma mute the artwork channel for now, cuz its BAD in there XD

shell oak
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But you know what, the shiny ruins is a big W

unkempt egret
shell oak
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So that kind of makes up for no regionals being shown in ZA

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But right now I kind of only want the game for furfrou and kalos mythicals lmao

native trench
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i remember the regional variants were hated at first too :3

unkempt egret
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I can see it if it's like the shinies where there's barely anything changed (Charcadet's line for example, or one-shade shinies) but yea a lot of the time it is just "what if it were red/blue/gold/monochrome???"

shell oak
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But everyone who wants to “fix” ceruledge turns him into a McDonald’s mascot

native trench
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I have a concept called Tera-shinies, which is WAY rarer than regular shinies, but its not a redesign of existing shinies, its a seperate thing that exists alongside the OG shinies

unkempt egret
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also I like how I'm using fez in the wo-chien raid and I see someone join with ogrepon and I'm like "alright that's probably not a good idea" and swap to another mon

unkempt egret
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imo for that one specifically I'd probably just do the lazy route and swap their colors

native trench
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i'm quite surprised at some of the shinies that the fans think "need fixing". Like Skeledirge is really pretty

shell oak
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I hate fanmade color swap shinies, its way cooler when a duo of mons pick the same colors to match (the primals)

unkempt egret
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yea skeledirge's pinkish right

native trench
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yep

unkempt egret
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or how a bunch of gen 2-3 water types all used a similar shade of salmon pink

shell oak
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Really cool detail about the shiny primals, both of them get their “fingers” turned to the color of their base shinies

unkempt egret
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rofl the game just stopped giving me wo-chiens

shell oak
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Groudon gets gold claws, kyogre gets purple fin-tips (close enough to pink ig)

unkempt egret
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things I'd probably not notice if it weren't pointed out

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but yea the western fandom in general tend to want their franchise more than what they actually get

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still, I'm finding the counter-complaining to almost be as tiring as the complaining itself at times since there's just heavy vitriol on both sides

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so I tend to just interact with it as little as I can most of the time

shell oak
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What it comes down to for me is
If my favorite Pokemon is from gen 9, they gotta be doing something right

unkempt egret
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(at least in the US fandom, I assume the other sides of the fandom are much better with that)

shell oak
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(Walking wake)

unkempt egret
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ah nice

native trench
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Walking Wake is love ❤️

unkempt egret
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my favorite from gen 9's glimmora but I can see wake

native trench
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I found a walking wake avatar in VRchat and I like to dance with it

shell oak
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I never even liked suicune, so to see it become a fluffy velociraptor, instantly turned it around

unkempt egret
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nice

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one of my artist friends has been going through absolute madness for the past few months making her own model for VR chat

shell oak
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My favorite before wake was flygon, but he’s kind of been an uphill battle to like lol

native trench
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I guess its the "go against the grain"/rebel in me, but whenever I see stuff that isn't inherantly problematic getting hated on to such a rabid degree, I tend to adopt said thing as if it was my child

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Thats why I'm so attatched to Raging Bolt now

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lol

shell oak
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I kind of have that mentality for aromatisse, she’s doing her best

unkempt egret
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lol

native trench
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I wanna have a Raging Bolt steed like the slizzards in spy kids 2

unkempt egret
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aromatisse I'd like to use more but the item trade requirement is a bit painful at times

shell oak
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Yeah, horrible mechanic

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I get what they were going for, but requiring friends that have their own system is hard for some people

unkempt egret
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also I think my pick for "hated on" favorite is probably crabdominable?

native trench
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reminds me of dbz

unkempt egret
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mostly since it's the kind of mon I just imagine leaping into battle with the most absurd noises known to poke-kind

shell oak
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I have some oddball favorites lol

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Lokix, blacephalon, clawitzer

unkempt egret
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greedent as well mostly because it's been so useful in gens 8/9 and masters

shell oak
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Espathra, primarina

sweet crypt
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Let me find the thing I was joking about a while ago

unkempt egret
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gen 8 also had some nice ones that sadly didn't leave gen 8 like thievul and arctovish

native trench
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that weird crusade to keep sprigatito's final evo on all fours was one of the stupidest things ive seen XD

sweet crypt
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Would you rather Evolve a Pokemon with 30 uses of Mimic, 294 Recoil damage, while the in-battle weather is Snow and Misty Terrain, after landing 3 crits, defeating 3 other Pokemon of its species, then spinning under a rock formation that is coincidentally near moss and ice rocks in a magnetic zone, with equal Attack and Defence, while being female, with a beauty stat of 170+, with a Dark type and a Remoraid in your party, after having your Pokemon walk 1000 steps, while holding a Razor Claw, at max friendship, upside down, at specifically 42 HP, with 999 coins, at Dusk, with the lunar cycle at new moon, while the overworld weather is stormy, without fainting
Or by trading

shell oak
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Lower down on the list are sandaconda and centiskorch, not bad but I didn’t cling to them

native trench
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So of course Meowscarada is baby now

unkempt egret
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sandaconda aka drill gunnose (but only gigantamax'ed)

sweet crypt
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Gen 9's roster of Pokemon is my favourite

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Mainly because it just has so many Pokemon that I'd rank in the S tiers

shell oak
unkempt egret
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ROFL I just got pranked

sweet crypt
unkempt egret
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testing out dragon cheer on a tatsugiri and I was like "wait I didn't name this Lemon did I"

shell oak
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People love to exaggerate that to no end, only a few are that bad

unkempt egret
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no there's a random arcanine in the lobby named Lemon

sweet crypt
shell oak
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Item trade evos are unironically harder than stuff like runerigus and ursaluna without coordination

unkempt egret
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things you straight-up can't get in a single game no matter how determined you are

sweet crypt
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Trade evos are quite literally impossible for me

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I'd rather search up the most ridiculous shit I've ever heard and spend time doing that

unkempt egret
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that being said I'll still take both over option C:

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"the eternal suffering that is Eviolite Combee"

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(Eviolite Salandit is exempt since it at least has a movepool and workable stats)

sweet crypt
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A shiny

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Or something

unkempt egret
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and it's a cool little bandit lizard

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normal arcanine

sweet crypt
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Huh

unkempt egret
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was using flamethrower so not blowing itself up at least

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ROFL

native trench
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Im not a genwunner, but I always thought if i was a pokemon itd be arcanine

sweet crypt
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Anyways, despite liking Gen 9's roster, I do have Pokemon from Gen 7, 3 and 5 that I prefer over my favourite Gen 9 Pokemon

unkempt egret
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I guess I should have expected the rayquaza blowing itself up considering it was using dragon ascent

sweet crypt
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Gen 7's actually has my 2nd favourite roster

native trench
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When Fidough first came out my heart exploded with cute