other-pokemon-games

[celest light]

Emboars only notable anything was wolfie
The dude who picks pokemon who arent good on purpose

[sweet crypt]

Zard, Meganium, Sceptile, Samurott, Typhlosion, Pikachu and Eevee if you want to pick on babies

[celest light]

Sceptile was 8th

Ty didnt even make it on the list

[sweet crypt]

All these are comfortably worse than Decid in Singles

[celest light]

Hisuan typhlosion gad geniune uses

[sweet crypt]

Both Decidueyes might I add

[celest light]

Decid and meganium have never APPEARED

[sweet crypt]

Even H-Decid

Which is worse than base Decid in Singles

[celest light]

Pikachu is actually really good in some rare cases

[sweet crypt]

Not in Singles it isn't

[celest light]

Its worse in doubles to

[sweet crypt]

"Oh it hits as hard as Mega Rayquaza" Except it is far slower, far frailer, and Mega Ray runs Life Orb/Choice Band so it actually hits harder anyways

[celest light]

Like
Geniunely its second version is tied with megani
Just the base version is like
Mildly shitty

[sweet crypt]

You could kill Pikachu with a sneeze

And it isn't even fast

[celest light]

Pika and raichu have weird histories in competitive pokemon

Raichus alwaus been like
A safe pick

Every gen

[sweet crypt]

Raichu has better speed and bulk

And even if Pikachu hits harder, that's more than enough to make Raichu far better

[celest light]

Yee
In doubles its much more convoluted

[sweet crypt]

What the fuck do you expect when something can be killed by a warm summer breeze

[celest light]

More pokemon have chances to be good

[sweet crypt]

And is also mid speed

[celest light]

Like fuckin pachirisu

Who WON WORLDS (for follow me but still)

[sweet crypt]

I think Singles does that better tbh

And it's all because of the tiering system

Tiering system is GOATed

[celest light]

Not from what ive heard
Specifically when restricted pokemon arent in play doubkes feels better

[sweet crypt]

Though sadly it can't clutch even some especially shit things

cough cough Meganium

[celest light]

I dislike the tiering system heavily personally cause it limits too much team wise for me

Its not ACTUALLY whats good its "whats good out of this tier"

[sweet crypt]

I personally don't really like the restricted system since some Restricteds will just never get used

But tbf, Ubers is similar

Just that instead of having 2 restricteds

You have 6

[celest light]

Which feels disingenuous
Cause
I have teams that make mediocre at best mons (in doubles)
Like palafin or frosmoth

[sweet crypt]

So by default less dogshit legendaries are getting left out

[celest light]

I hate that personally

I like the complex team building having a HUGE pool can bring

[sweet crypt]

Well, having a huge pool means less Pokemon get a time to shine

[celest light]

Regardless of whats the best in tournaments
Some funky teams can make it really high

[sweet crypt]

Since less Pokemon will have a place to be good

[celest light]

Youll get random pokemon who just burst out on a few teams but only fit those playstyles

[sweet crypt]

That still applies to Singles

[celest light]

Palafin is probably the most complicated because its very readable

[sweet crypt]

Just that you can also use them in lower tiers if it isn't working out for you

[celest light]

Like
You see palafin in doubles every team has a plan to deal with it cause like
Bait the switch ins

Switching in and out too much in doubles especially on a team that REQUIRES it can be bad

Ive had the team bodied any time someone caught on to plans

[sweet crypt]

Well, that sounds like to me that the team isn't exactly gonna be working at a higher level of play

[celest light]

Same with the flamigo one punch man teams

[sweet crypt]

Since there isn't any way a top player isn't catching on to yknw

[celest light]

Theres adaptability
But its a lot easier to get fucked

[sweet crypt]

The main gimmick of Palafin

[celest light]

But some teams dont have the tools to stop the initial situation

Amoongus rage powder my beloved

[sweet crypt]

And if we're talking mid ladder, then mid ladder is just a breeding ground for unorthodox strats anyways

[celest light]

Ive beaten some really good players eith it cause like
Oncs that switch back in goes your way
You just sweep

[sweet crypt]

Idk, I just think the Smogon tiering system, while flawed due to relying on usage, is overall a pretty good idea

[celest light]

Game over pack your stuff anf go home

Jet punched back to gen 8

[sweet crypt]

I think being usage based is the biggest flaw since it leads to goofy shit like UU Regieleki

And OU Electivire

And Typhlosion in every fucking generation

[celest light]

Flamigo team is way more gimmicky in the bad ways cause theres more then just "outplay me" its "literally just use any anti stat changer or kill my tatsu turn 1"

Doesnt matter if i play it perfectly
Haze be upon me

Its a fun team
And does SO MUCH damage if it goes right

But the requirements are "literally make 0 mistakes for the first 4 turns but also if they have any of 10 different things anywhere on there team you lose instantly upon matching up"

Most of my othet teams are mostly normal

[sweet crypt]

I find it interesting that for 2 generations in a row Lunala has had a rough start before getting heavily optimised and becoming a well respected high tier Uber

[celest light]

Only meta team i have uses a goldengo and fluttermane

But its a rabsca trick room revival team

[sweet crypt]

I wonder why?

[celest light]

Revive either iron hands metagross or goldengo depending and set trick room up eith flutter at beginning
Rabsca for late game

None of my teams are truely normal

My original trick room team uses galarian weezing as its most important mon

[sweet crypt]

If I got into VGC I'd definitely try to use a Lunala team for the simple reason of I fucking love Lunala, peak Pokemon right here

[celest light]

I usually get hard walled by restricted formats because of the fact my teams all shine
Without them

So much so im making a team specifically to avoid this issue with calyrex ice cause trick room goes brrrrrrr

Unfortunately it feels too meta and i never finished the skeloton building

My oldest longesf standing team

Kingfraudbit hasnt been replaced yet

this is also still from the "fuck it we ball" for friendly custom team shenangins hencs 2 sashes

Tera fire drought Torkoal eruption go kaboom

[vital flare]

I find it hilarious that I'm getting Minecraft Java mostly just to play gobblemon 😂

[hybrid dirge]

Pokemon pisces

[fiery creek]

a few from my several boxes of sv shinies

[novel ibex]

Bro just casually has 4 shiny vaporeon

[unkempt egret]

Outbreak Moment (or GO com day, that also works lol)

[fiery creek]

Also 12 shiny alcremie.

[unkempt egret]

nice nice, I'm assuming that one was from that one outbreak event

I do have a clip involving a vappy from sword/shield but I think it's too long for discord

...huh I guess I can just post it now lol

[candid spindle]

is aerodactyl good

[unkempt egret]

in what sense like an in-game sense or a comp sense or

[candid spindle]

in game sense

fire red to be specific

[unkempt egret]

after checking you can grab the rock slide tutor if you didn't use it already so you can probably run a rock slide/fly set

[candid spindle]

oh alr

[unkempt egret]

the main issue is that you get it so late but nothing the Vs. seeker can't solve

[candid spindle]

rock slide is a really good move

[unkempt egret]

if you get one with rock head then the double edge tutor is also good

[candid spindle]

fly also will be useful for elite 4

since it makes that turn's opponent move miss

[unkempt egret]

yea, I believe you also get two free leftovers on the snorlax spots with the itemfinder

[candid spindle]

nice

aerodactyl is my fav fossil pokemon tbh

second fav actually

first one is omanyte/omastar

and u can prob guess what influenced this

[unkempt egret]

understandable

I'm one of those oddities that likes Bastiodon because of an XY randomlocke where it did a LOT of work

[delicate hollow]

Professor kukui has visited kanto in the past but we never saw him in the games or the Switch remakes

[ornate scarab]

a normal team

[fallow jasper]

can someone help me download pokemon esmerald on pc?

porfa

[noble spindle]

need a good name for a Snorlax

[neat knoll]

Dad because all he does is sleep and snore

[void crater]

can someone help me with my trade evo's in let's go

[green forge]

I never went to college But I have a idea The legendary champion will help me beat that this game

[unkempt egret]

nice nice

[burnt basin]

Nah

[indigo mirage]

I forgot I tryed to go for the most underused pokemon for dimond

[vast osprey]

Interesting choice.

Also, I love the name you gave Pachirisu, lol.

[indigo mirage]

I wanted to have a team of what people would say are bad pokemon

lol

[vast osprey]

People think Torterra is bad???

[indigo mirage]

i mean when i had to pick the 3 starters i assume grass is not sued as much

[vast osprey]

I guess, but Torterra's by no means a bad choice.

Sinnoh's the one region where I feel like all three starters are very solid in their own ways.

[indigo mirage]

i wanted a team of pokes that are never really used as offten

[vast osprey]

Fair, fair.

[indigo mirage]

its an anoying team tho lots of set up

[vast osprey]

Almost like there's a reason they don't use these guys very much...lol.

[indigo mirage]

sticky web with crititot and then what ever i feel like

[sweet crypt]

Monster Hunter mentioned

[indigo mirage]

yep

[sweet crypt]

Tbh, I think this can be said for Gen 9 too, and I think you could make a few stretches for a few other regions

I guess Skeledirge is easily the strongest of the 3 in a playthrough context

But the same can be said for Infernape for the Sinnoh starters

[vast osprey]

That's true, I used the underdog in SV (Quaxly) and was pleasantly surprised.

I think part of it is that Fire is one of the strongest types as far as pure offense goes.

[sweet crypt]

I think it's certainly up there for offense

And it's actually pretty good on defense too

Albeit it does have big weaknesses

Still easily worse than Water overall though

[vast osprey]

I suppose, yeah.

Though Water and Grass don't cause status conditions, usually.

[simple quartz]

Fire is great but it's absolutely not a strong type offensively compared to Water

[vast osprey]

(Aside from stuff like Spore or Sleep Powder, but shhhhhhhh.)

[simple quartz]

When Fire mons get stalled/walled out they don't tend to have ways to circumvent their walling

[indigo mirage]

i do wanna make a new team of some of my favorit pokes from this gen

like bronzar, driftblimp, and skuntank

[simple quartz]

Unlike Water

[indigo mirage]

and the hippo

[vast osprey]

Water can absolutely be walled, though.

[indigo mirage]

going shiny hunt them tho

[vast osprey]

Grass stops basically every Water mon in its tracks.

[indigo mirage]

shoot i forgot i missed the event to get the other 2 event legendarys

[simple quartz]

Yeah of course the ever-present Grass and it's totally non-weakness to Ice attacks that Water types definitely never have as coverage

[indigo mirage]

i only have the letter

[vast osprey]

That still feels sort of...situational.

I don't recall the last time I saw a Sharpedo with Ice Beam.

[indigo mirage]

reminds me how do i shiny hunt in dimond do i jsut go in and out fo the big rooms til i see a shiny

[vast osprey]

I don't know, I've never tried shiny hunting in BDSP.

[unkempt egret]

late-ish but empoleon also has the issue of the Sinnoh E4 being very hostile to steel types with all of the fighting coverage in addition to two members being fire and ground lol

[candid relic]

i just realized minior doesn't learn head smash and am sad. what a flavor and mechanics failure. it's a rock type that actually wants to lose lots of hp sometimes and is all head, and it's nowhere to be found 🙄

[smoky gyro]

...Thanks for that game

[sleek zephyr]

One day, I missed 6 turns in a row in IF because of paralysis! (1 in 4096)

[scenic whale]

Ogerpon: "Oh boy, I hope nobody steals my masks today!"
The mischievous Loyal Three:

[leaden hazel]

Perfect example

[stable pivot]

how can i find someone with pokemon violet i wanna complete the scarlet dex

[tight granite]

Probably on reddit. I have violet but not home lul

[gritty mica]

Cloning

[broken pasture]

should i play through pokemon scarlet again

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[brisk hedge]

I hate my past self

[craggy prism]

So guys what pokemon are to you

For me I'm more of a tools guy

[robust nacelle]

@craggy prism what player character are you interested in ?

[craggy prism]

Meh I can't choose they all are kinda good

[robust nacelle]

im thinking of picking one of the waifus

[craggy prism]

Also Idk why but since I was a kid I saw pokemon as tools my first game was heart gold and I still see them as weapons or tools I use that I don't get attached too

[robust nacelle]

i mean thats cool

I always thought of em as a pet

When i was a kid emerald/ruby/saphire where the current gen

I also played some of yellow

[toxic sandal]

Im struggling with the electric gym in violet. I have the ground wooper that helps a lot and a carbink i got through surprise trade but thats it and carbink didn't help much.

I got to the last pokemon but couldn't quite win

[craggy prism]

For me it was heart gold was the latest at first I got attached to my starter but I slowly stoped caring about it and started using it as a weapon no more no less

[robust nacelle]

Hm interesting.

they are like my dogs

well, currently i live with cats because nyc is a shitty place to have dogs

[peak kite]

I am a ninetales sometimes, other times suicune, swellow, vaporeon, and treecko.
Being a shapeshifter is fun

[robust nacelle]

I like to imagine myself as officer jenny's husband

[toxic sandal]

Any suggestions on beating the electric gym and the fire star team trial?

[robust nacelle]

@craggy prism the music in this game is pretty good

Also @craggy prism did you start with Tunia? Im guessing the answers to our questions determines our player character

might not be though

[craggy prism]

Yeah I tried all of them look like it determines something else not our character

[robust nacelle]

For sure

its really impressive demo so far though

[craggy prism]

Yeah really

[unkempt egret]

"ok cool grass-solo is one of the 3 damage challenges in Masters"

condition: "physical moves only deal 20% damage"

me:

[robust nacelle]

well they are some cuties

[raven bison]

[brisk hedge]

Hey Brock, how are you doing?

[robust nacelle]

terrible no officer jennys or nurse joys in sight

[brisk hedge]

Hey, at least you have your trusty drying pan and jelly donuts

[craggy prism]

Wow the game is cool

[robust nacelle]

Yeah the game is fire ngl

they are cooking up some heat, its probably going to be the coolest pokemon fangame ive played... Atleast since Unbound

[craggy prism]

Unbound is unbeatable

[craggy prism]

Also the character design and story is so good

Also I got good ivs

[robust nacelle]

nice!

and yeah the characters are so fucking cute

I thought Tunia would be my favorite but I love Circa

Im not sure what my Ivs are I didnt really think I would need to check lol

[craggy prism]

Me too I find her very interesting

[craggy prism]

Lol

[robust nacelle]

Yeah shes got a good personality

I cant wait to meet the rest of the cast including the blonde

[craggy prism]

I always do that it's the first thing I do because I don't want a weak weapon in my party

[craggy prism]

And the guy who looks like blue

[robust nacelle]

Tbh- I never really needed to in order to beat a normal campaign

That random lvl 20 bidoof did beat me though, but I think I know how to win now even with the level difference

[craggy prism]

Haha but don't tell anyone the only pokemon I care about is wimscot and her pre evo

[robust nacelle]

LOL

I caught the lilipups and I got a Torchic from the farm

[craggy prism]

He curbstomped me

[robust nacelle]

Same, what we should do is mudslap and pray on poison sting

[craggy prism]

You too good and I got Arial ace from the farm

[robust nacelle]

Same

how tf do we get passed the farm

[craggy prism]

The tourous were very annoying

[robust nacelle]

They were annoying until i just said fuck it and starting running for the hills

Oh I also caught a Mudbray

the ability on them is nice

[craggy prism]

I got a prankster wimscot

[robust nacelle]

Same

[craggy prism]

I can now be the most annoying mf ever

[robust nacelle]

I dont know if ill use it, but prankster is a good ability so i decided to keep it

[craggy prism]

Yeah and wimscot get leach sead and sunny day I guess you know where thus is going

[robust nacelle]

Thats actually decent

Theres a uhh liligant? some grass type with chlorophyll in the early grass area

and it would be useful for sunny weather team

[craggy prism]

Yes but I would hope it get rain dance because rain teams are a bit better

[robust nacelle]

That is true I suppose this isnt PIF so sadly cant break every team

though, I dont want to set anything in stone before I see all of the fakemon

[craggy prism]

Yes yes

[robust nacelle]

I also enjoy that this game is semi open world

the map seems like it will be fun to explore, so far the environments and ecology is a bit more refined than the norm

[craggy prism]

Yeah the the map is so big

I almost got lost

[robust nacelle]

Shit im still lost because i dont know where to go after the farm

i just saved and figured id start again when i want to actually use my brain

[craggy prism]

Me too it's way to let for ts

[robust nacelle]

LOL im a watch someone else do it

[craggy prism]

Nah I'm not going to do that I don't want to spoil myself

[robust nacelle]

Im not going to go to far just right to the point where im lost to see which direction someone runs

[vocal swan]

My starter pokémon

[lapis flare]

What are some fun fan games I can check out?

My rankings of the ones I’ve played and finished so far are:

1. Pokemon Reborn (2 runs)
2. Infinite Fusion (4 runs)
3. Pokemon Insurgence (1 run)
4. Pokemon Gaia (1 run)
5. Pokemon Light Platinum (1 run)
6. Pokemon Flora Sky (2 runs)
7. Pokemon Glazed (1 run)
8. Pokemon Rejuvination (almost done but not my favorite tbh it’s a worse reborn imo)

[unique burrow]

how would someone not get black moon 2? they got a discord too?

[reef ravine]

what game is this?

[formal loom]

Ah, Elite Redux

Also trying Pokerogue, but yeah, dunno if my team cooked, or I'm just lucky with my encounter

[wraith musk]

peak gameplay

[vocal swan]

Personally I liked pokémon Dark warship and pokémon The last fire Red, or you could always try the stone dragon series they have three games, or you can play pokémon saiphs then it's sequel sors, I've played them and Saiphs was okay but sorswas amazing

[robust nacelle]

I would highly reccomend pokemon revival demo

[peak kite]

Can't downvote my shiny for elimination if it's on pokemon go!
Haha!

[robust nacelle]

says who? @crisp sky screenshot this kid and end his dreams!

[peak kite]

I'm only joking

My mom also understands why it's final shiny form got eliminated too

Personally, I think I'd prefer it's shiny better if it was black with gold scales instead of that pink and gold it has

[robust nacelle]

tbh i dont hate it

its cute, id prefer it to be a girl

[unkempt egret]

I dunno I like the Pink Lemonade shiny lol

didn't get that lucky with com day though mostly because my phone kept threatening to melt every 30 seconds

[brisk hedge]

It’s still far better then the droves of shinys that barely change

[raw quest]

I got 23 of them today.
I think I have a self control problem lol

[unkempt egret]

oooh an XXL shiny nice

meanwhile mine

(the furf was because I forgot about the doggo mission and one of em was shiny rofl)

[topaz thunder]

oph some other poho folks!

pogo*

I was going to ask to exchange friend codes

Jangmo-o was good for me today too

I didn't get any hundos tho 😦

a few that were real close

and a decent amount of shinies

[tepid obsidian]

The wall

[thorny coral]

Has anyone play the Romhack pokemon unbound
I know it's old but the gameplay was peak

[robust nacelle]

yes i have its one of my favorite

[brisk hedge]

It’s a testament to how easy X and Y are that the champion is only a trainer as a hobby

[unkempt egret]

Actor first, trainer second lol

(ngl it'd be really funny if X/Y had an "it's all a stage play" ending since that's probably the only game in the series where they would have kinda set up for something like that)

[unkempt egret]

alright there we go baxcalibur down

didn't think we'd do it when the host locked in with a koraidon but thankfully we also had a good archuraludon with a body press set and a good support mew that set up an early reflect so my forretress could get its Lunges in

Orthworm might also be a nice pick, saw that one in a lobby that got ended but considering it resists everything in the set but crunch

[median trench]

I'm aggravated right now. I can't beat Norman in Emerald.

In my last playthrough, I did it with ease. Now it seems impossible.

Anyone got an ideal team?

Preferably one with Swampert on it since that's my starter.

[delicate hollow]

What is everyone's favourite and preferred level 100 Pokemon to shiny hunt legendaries?

[rare nebula]

Anyone ever played Pokémon Insurgence? Popular game, I think

[verbal pulsar]

did you win?

[formal loom]

A bit tired to continue and still don't have time to continue it too

[verbal pulsar]

good luck once you pick it back up

he's coming soon

[light lodge]

are there other fusion games?

even with just auto gen sprites?

[quasi dagger]

yay infernape only platinum run is finally complete

[random locust]

MY MAN!

Infernape best gen 4 starter second is empoleon

[raw quest]

Anyone recommend any other good fan games that are as easy to download as infinite fusion?
I've played Insurgence and Rejuvenation already. I've also been playing pokerogue recently
can't play romhacks because I don't have fancy tools to upload my physical games to my computer (wouldn't even know where to begin) lmao

[viscid pelican]

Pokémon Sage was pretty fun. Full of Fakemon too

[simple quartz]

If you want a more lowkey funny romhack there's Pokemon Evolved

[unkempt egret]

Altered Emerald is also another low-key but fun hack

[ruby prism]

playing a randomiser for scarlet which randomised pokemon, types, moveset and most importantly base stat totals

i also accidentally made literally every trainer have 6 pokemon at level 100 so i needed a counter

my reshiram brightest day is so far completely undefeated

i might have to nerf her because her health hasn’t even been yellow

[raw quest]

cant do romhacks cuz I dont have fancy tools to prove I own games
I have all physical games but no tools

[raw quest]

those always look like so much fun

[simple quartz]

Emulation is easy as hell man you can just do it

There's UniPatcher for Android and just general patcher apps in PC whenever you need to patch a base ROM

[unkempt egret]

once we leave romhacks my experiences with fangames outside of IF becomes noticeably more narrow tbh

[simple quartz]

Pokemon Uranium moment (RIP in peace sweet angel)

[raw quest]

one of the romhacks I wanted to play required a "legit game rom"
I dont have the tools to extract my real games to my computer

[simple quartz]

They had to say that to cover their asses bro

If it's somehow true there's no harm testing it anyway

[raw quest]

I see

[simple quartz]

It's the same way official sites of emulators all tend to say " you can't use ripped ROMs online it has to be ROMs you yourself use"

[raw quest]

I appreciate your insight and help to my being of noob about romhacks lmao

[candid spindle]

is water/fairy good type?

[sweet crypt]

Yes

[simple quartz]

Wrong question to ask in the channel but also of course it is because Water is a broken type

[sweet crypt]

Bro's ignoring the fact that Fairy is also right there

Also, is this the wrong channel?

[simple quartz]

Okay but everyone knows that

[sweet crypt]

Water/Fairy being broken is definitely in the mainline games last I checked

[simple quartz]

I guess it seems too general a question to be asked in here lol but anyway

[sweet crypt]

There are help channels but those are specifically about Infinite Fusion are they not?

[candid spindle]

im asking gen 9 here btw

forgot to mention

[simple quartz]

Ah there we go

[sweet crypt]

Anyways, I don't think you could get a bad type combo by combining any of the top 5 types

[candid spindle]

also i gotta say that lots of water types just have really good design overall

[simple quartz]

I think the least best is probably Ghost/Fairy and that's only cause it's basically just a bit defensively shoddy

[candid spindle]

so its a good type that is good in designs too

not just competitiveness

[sweet crypt]

Idk though, it's probably the best offensively of the group except maybe Ground/Fairy

[simple quartz]

My anti-Water agenda only extends in it's gameplay design/competitiveness compared to my biases it definitely is just a very solid type for design aesthetics

[candid spindle]

also lots of water types are designed after sea creatures

wich fits with the theme

[simple quartz]

True

[sweet crypt]

I think worst overall is probably Ghost/Ground but I wouldn't call it a bad type combo even if it has quite a number of weaknesses

[simple quartz]

Ghost is only blanked by a sadly mid typing while Ground's blanker is still a relevant good type today

But it's also not as offensively potent as Ground

[sweet crypt]

Perhaps not in terms of average, but Ghost's highs are higher than Ground's

Ghost/Fighting ensures that

[simple quartz]

Yea

[sweet crypt]

Literally 1 Pokemon capable of stopping the STABs

And it is so frail that any coverage move is doing it in

[simple quartz]

Normal/Ghost that doesn't understand the type's assignment is very sad

Then again that was Ice's entire story up until Gen 9 lol

[sweet crypt]

Yknow it's crazy that like, 3 existing type combos resist Ground/Fairy

And yet a majority of tiers have 1 Pokemon of those types

[candid spindle]

what type u think has coolest designs

prob dragon for me

[simple quartz]

Grass and Fire definitely no bias there no

[sweet crypt]

Ubers has Ho-Oh, OU has Corviknight, UU has Skarmory, RU has Talonflame, PU has Rotom Heat, ZU has Oricorio and Charizard

[simple quartz]

Mega-Charizard* let's be specific here

[sweet crypt]

Mega Charizard Y in ZU?

[simple quartz]

Oh I read that wrong lmao

[sweet crypt]

Powercreep is wild

[simple quartz]

Yeah ur right

[sweet crypt]

This must be Gen 10

[simple quartz]

They got a new mechanic which is Tera the sequel except now you can just choose a second typing on top

[sweet crypt]

Out of these, Ho-Oh, Corviknight, Skarmory, Talonflame and Rotom Heat are defensive leaning in their sets

So yeah, even with how few fully evolved Pokemon cover Ground/Fairy, Ubers, OU, UU, RU and PU have a defensive resist for it, and ZU also has 2 resists for it

Unless Oricorio gets banned

Then it has 1 resist

Ground types do tend to get Rock moves tbf

Also I forgot Bronzong existed

So uhh

NU is also covered

By a defensive Pokemon, too

I wasn't scrolling the ZUVR for long, but base Weezing is viable there

And is a defensive resist of Ground/Fairy

And Galarian Weezing covers both RU and OU

Orthworm is good in ZU too

Or was it PU? I forgor

It's good in a lower tier is the point

The only reason Crobat isn't mentioned is because it isn't even in Gen 9

And would you look at that, every tier is covered easily, some are even covered multiple times over

After looking into this...

Literally every fully evolved Pokemon that resists Ground/Fairy is good somewhere

And even if you include the 2 resists that aren't in the game, Celesteela and Crobat, this statement holds true

Isn't that crazy?

[simple quartz]

Lotta great Flying and Steel types who'd have thunk it

[sweet crypt]

Not just that, but every tier has a defensive answer to it

Not just some offensive Pokemon that'd still get chunked hard

[neat knoll]

@prisma dagger I didn't hate the remake, it made the game harder if you didn't use friendship

But like you have to mod out friendship for that

[prisma dagger]

We are just want a good remake of Pokemon platinum

If it is hack or normal

[rare nebula]

I tried to play it, but it wouldn't run, so I deleted the files, but now it won't let me download again

[raw quest]

thats fair
Mine broke the first time I downloaded it
but it worked perfectly the second time

[rare nebula]

Now I can never play it, and I really wanted to

[raw quest]

did you make sure to remove all traces of it before redownloading?

[rare nebula]

It's even gone from the trash

[raw quest]

not sure why you wouldnt be able to try another time
They have a discord
Im sure someone there could help maybe

[rare nebula]

I'm on the Discord. I tried asking for help, but so far nothing

[noble spindle]

any funny names for an Eevee? no idea what to evolve him into yet

[rare nebula]

E

[unkempt egret]

I know I named one "VVeVV at some point lol

but I'm a bit adverise to giving out names unless you're settled on its final form

[sweet crypt]

If you evolve it into either Vaporeon or Espeon, name it "Cta :3"

This advice is dogshit amazing so you shouldn't should take it

[simple quartz]

Genuine question

Would Eviolite but Atk/Sp.Atk instead be insane broke

We've had OG Eviolite for so long just essentially being an excuse to make bulky mons out of NFE mons but we haven't had the opportunity to have NFE mons be insane offensive demons and I wonder if that theoretical Attack Eviolite be way too centralizing compared to OG Eviolite

[raw quest]

dang
honestly that kinda sucks
I mean I guess they were already going downhill when I joined a few years ago
I wouldnt be surprised if their server was dead by now

I honestly just search the internet like a madman when something isnt working

[rare nebula]

No I mean someone responded, but wasn’t able to help

[raw quest]

oh thats rough

if you dont mind me asking where is the specific issue? Im not an expert but I can at least try to look it up

[unkempt egret]

I'm probably a bad person to ask about comp stuff but interesting idea, let me present some mons that might be neat with that

[simple quartz]

I love talking comps but I am also very bad at it in actuality so I get you lmao

[unkempt egret]

Kadabra, G-Mr. Mime, Scyther, Electabuzz, Magmar, Sneasel, Duraluadon (?), and maybe Drakloak all might fit. Some interesting ones that might still prefer Eviolite are Magneton, Rhydon, Klang, Fraxure, Type:Null

out of those Kadabra looks the most promising since unlike most of those it doesn't actually mind giving up Safe Switcher HDB thanks to magic guard but I'm not exactly sure how it'd fare compared to alakazam.

Klang and Fraxure I'm mostly juding based off gear shift and dragon dance lol

Seadra is another one I considered but that one might actually want scope lens instead for roughly the same effect after a focus energy boost.

[simple quartz]

I was definitely thinking about Duraludon with Eviolite/theoretical Atk. Eviolite lol

I wonder where it's at-goddamn even with Eviolite it's only NU???

Not even real NU at that, PUBL lmao

[unkempt egret]

I was gonna say I recall Latios saying it wanted some other item over eviolite?

[true ermine]

Anyone able to help me out with this?

[unkempt egret]

sorry about the lateness but regice is probably one of the hardest tier 5 raids because of how the stats work on raids

(long story short: HP is thrown out entirley so the raw defense stat is the only thing that matters, so something like Guzzlord or regidrago would be far easier than something like kartana (ok this is a bad example given its fire weakness) or deoxys)

[unkempt egret]

me: tries to run for at least 5 turns from a wild encounter*

the encounter on turn 5:

[simple quartz]

It used to be Soul Dew

But that's because from Gen 3 to 6 it was basically a free Calm Mind for them lmao

[unkempt egret]

er, latios the user not latios the pokemon

[simple quartz]

Oh lmao mb

I feel like for a mon like Seadra it probably appreciated Eviolite a lot more

[sweet crypt]

Bro's the 3rd best 1st stage

Despite having 535 BST

And a GOATed typing

Put this guy on fraudwatch

[sweet crypt]

Also, this was more of a general statement

On how sometimes, Eviolite Pokemon really want a non eviolite item for whatever reason

I'm not entirely sure what Duraludon itself runs

[simple quartz]

The Slaking of its day except it doesn't have Truant as an excuse

[sweet crypt]

This is most prominent on Scyther

Yknow, with the quad Stealth Rock weakness and all

And sometimes, the Pokemon needs the eviolite to set itself apart from the otherwise better evolution

But even with better bulk, the lack of an item slot does it in

And the reliance on Eviolite

In Gen 9 Singles, there is 0 case where an eviolite Pokemon is better than the evolution

Except maybe Dusknoir vs Dusclops but that's Trash vs Garbage

Coughing Baby vs Coughing Baby MU

There's also something deeply wrong with me because for a short moment I read dusclops as deerclops???

[simple quartz]

Dusknoir is so tragic man

[sweet crypt]

Yup, definitely Dusclops chat

Just a normal dusclops

Nothing to see here

[simple quartz]

Badass aesthetics with great BST but just absolutely not built well at all for Pokemon Singles (and I'm pretty sure even in Doubles it ain't shit)

[sweet crypt]

Anyways now that I'm done laughing at myself for reading something wrong due to sleep deprivation

[sweet crypt]

Yeah it is quite tragic

Also tragic that for its first 2 generations of existing, it was at least 1 tier higher than it wanted

And thus was trapped in purgatory where it sucks ass but is used so much it cannot drop to a weaker tier

[simple quartz]

Electivire moment

[prisma dagger]

https://youtube.com/shorts/NUDo5nvLVQY?si=lOb_Wu8db2hgG_m9

https://youtu.be/K-_r59eHGG8?si=8B8ZUlEtOAIyjpPO

[frank lily]

Finally got my first Sleep shiny

[unkempt egret]

nice nice

[unkempt egret]

tried out the Pit in mariomon

"I would give you a choice to keep one of those captures you caught but I guess it isn't exactly a choice in this case..."

[willow raft]

i need help picking

[brisk hedge]

Can someone tell me where Honedge’s claws are?

[willow raft]

the sword

[brisk hedge]

I know it’s a sword, but where are its claws

[unkempt egret]

isn't castform like really silly in PMD for some reason?

outside of that I say rotom since I recall ghost types also being silly

[unkempt egret]

heckin smol regirock

I'm tempted to say the mission rewards here have randomized levels since ice and steel both had far higher CP's than that

if tomorrow's Regidrago then it might be worth looking for raids since that's an easy enough one that doing a duo might even be decently doable

(Regeleki as well but that one's a little more harder hitting)

[lucid gulch]

Tectonic just released a new update for anyone looking for a new fangame to try

lots of extra qol and several new types of status were added, its alot of fun

[silver forge]

the sash it has looks likes its a hand holding its hilt.

[solemn stream]

I got a god pack this morning on pokemon tag. I always dreamed of getting one, and i got one.

*tcg

[viscid pelican]

Simple, it sheaths the blade and uses the cloth extension to cut

Since its can form a claw like shape

[delicate hollow]

Anyone know some decent GBA rom hacks with current gen mechanics including a portable PC storage system and the ability pill/capsules?

[unkempt egret]

Super Mariomon has all of that available by level... 32?

the PC storage is far earlier though (around level 12)

Emerald Seaglass is also another one that has both of those if you want something more in line with vanilla pokemon

[simple vigil]

I’d try Emerald Seaglass, actually JUST beat my first HOF run in that today. It’s got the older style GBC graphics but updated with some modern GBA tweaks. Lots of quality of life enhancements too including both of the ones you mentioned

[unkempt egret]

can confirm yea its quite good

[sweet crypt]

Why did you bring a Tinkatuff into the E4

Like I'm not judging based off viability here since otherwise I'd have gone for Delcatty instead it's probably unironically worse

But like

In terms of pure levels

You should've evolved, no?

[unkempt egret]

mostly because I didn't want to use tinkaton lol

(tinkaton would be better but I did remember to give tuff eviolite at least, even if that was the E4 ringer of the team)

[sweet crypt]

Why? Do you just prefer Tinkatuff's design or something?

[unkempt egret]

mostly yea since I find ton to be overrated

actually in hindsight I think I could have just put anything there since tuff actually failed at the job I set out for her since ||I didn't expect wallace's milotic to have competitive||

[opal harbor]

so what other fanmade pokemon games are good?

[simple vigil]

Nova Red is also pretty fun, and a good choice if you like Digimon. Basically FireRed but all Pokémon replaced with 355 Digimon.

[unkempt egret]

speaking of "basically fire red but all pokemon replaced with X", alte red is another good one if you don't mind a brutal endgame difficulty spike, in that case all mons are swapped with different variants of themselves

[unkempt egret]

heckin what is this luck in GO

the registeel even has the background too

(none of them have great stats but the registeel at least rounds to 2494 so I might raise that one up)

[spare iris]

.

0000000011111111111

00

[spare iris]

0

[raw quest]

man I know that the fire red rocket edition romhack isnt canon but dang I love the added lore

[opal harbor]

anyone know if pokemon cloud and soil has a download cause the pokemon ive been seeing look fun

[brisk hedge]

Ah yes, my favourite Pokémon type

[tame laurel]

Can somebody can help me please I have a bug in Pokémon Arceus (spoil)

I'm stuck in a loop

[tame laurel]

I had to speak her at the infinite

[quaint hedge]

So I'm playing Pokemon:Evolved
and my Pikachu
just got paralysed
by another Pikachu's Static.

[unkempt egret]

pre gen 6 moment

[quaint hedge]

fr

[mighty robin]

I don’t even remember what game I caught it in, but I transferred it to the game it’s in now. It’s been a 78 hydreigon since then

[hard plume]

pre-gen 6 pikachus fighting each other then getting paralyzed by their own static:

[frozen bear]

whats the hardest pokemon game?

[brisk hedge]

Official or fan game?

[frozen bear]

fangame

i need a good rom hack to nuzlocke

[frozen bear]

im not taking gens above gen 6 btw

so if you were thinking of a gen 6 rom hack, sorry

[brisk hedge]

Probably the Kaizo rom hacks

[frozen bear]

since i'm going to sleep now (It's 4:49 AM) just send a DM, i'll check it later when I wake up maybe

[devout crag]

yall i need a good pokemon game im bored

[kindred widget]

i've been obsessed with rocket edition, not gonna lie
you get to play as a team rocket grunt and rob people

and it has a really interesting plotline that follows alongside the original firered

[devout crag]

well i alr tried that didnt rlly got me

[kindred widget]

ah, fair enough
lemme think
insurgence is a fun classic, there's pokemon bushido that was fun
and there's a roguelike for emerald that looks really cool

[devout crag]

ima try all of them now

[kindred widget]

insurgence might not be available anymore, i haven't checked in a while. but it has the delta 'mons and a really convoluted but fun story

are we allowed to share links? to the official fangame websites

[devout crag]

ion know

[devout crag]

send in dms

[queen briar]

Am I allowed to ask someone to send me a link to FireRed 1.0 so I can get FireRed rocket edition properly set up? Having troubles finding the correct download for vba-m 😭

[raw quest]

It starts...

[kindred widget]

i could send you a copy via dm?

[queen briar]

Yes please

[pine ingot]

Since when you can catch pidgey in Platinum

(Route 201)

Wait actually why do I even have poke radsr

[unkempt egret]

when you have an early Poke Radar? I forget where pidgey's is though

[pine ingot]

No idea at all

Wait I think I'm not on normal platinum

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-caption-obvious-kavos-duh-idiot-thanks-for-stating-the-obvious-gif-22111719

[broken pasture]

pokemon legends arceus is over 3 years old

[delicate hollow]

I wish chimecho and tropius got evolutions
Give that dinosaur banana plant thing a baby evo and mid evo and that chimecho bell lil boy a final evo

[brisk hedge]

Tropius needs a stat upgrade, not 2 prevos

[tight granite]

visually he needs pre evo

which is all i care about

[brisk hedge]

I’m fine with him getting a prevo, as long as he also gets an evolution

If any Pokémon needs a prevo, it’s Kangaskan

The baby is literally sitting right there

[tight granite]

when the mother comes out of the same egg as its child

[brisk hedge]

When Cubone comes out of the egg with its mother’s skull already on its head

[unkempt egret]

imo, cubone is 100% patent 0 in terms of "they're a character, not species" pokemon to the point where I keep calling it the single most gen 7-9 line in the first 3 gens rofl

since it has a gimmick that only makes sense as an individual (maybe a bit less so with alolan marowak but still), low stats made up for by multiple signature moves (at the time) and being somewhat plot-relevant in its debut gen with team rocket

[brisk hedge]

Speaking of, is it ever mentioned in game that Team Rocket was the one who killed the Marrowak?

[unkempt egret]

I wish I could freely check dialogue but good question

I was more thinking of the forced marowak fight (outside of LGO where it's a cutscene) but now that you mention it

from what I can tell on bulby apparently they were there for skull harvesting/poaching and a marowak got in the way? I could be wrong on that though

[brisk hedge]

The only official source I know of that says that Team Rocket were the ones to kill the Marrowak is Pokémon Origins 🤮

[tight granite]

and everytime a cubine hatches, team rocket teleports there and kills its mother

[brisk hedge]

What about all the Cubone that have been bred by players whose mothers are very much still alive?

[tight granite]

they just dont know they are dead

[unkempt egret]

I was gonna say I was more focusin on base R/B/Y/FR/LG lol

also a mon created without the existence of the breeding mechanic and thematically ruined by its existence

[sweet crypt]

At the same time Kangaskhan is also struggling to the point of needing an evolution

But it already has a Mega so uhh

Hey, could be worse for it! It could be Mawile, Sableye, Banette, Camerupt etc etc

[brisk hedge]

Just bring back Megas. Permanently

[sweet crypt]

Even then, Banette still needs an evolution

And so would Camerupt

Because their megas are still at the end of the day on the far lower end

Being Gen 3 Pokemon really hurts them

Because now they're slow, frail mixed attacker

[brisk hedge]

Well giving them an evolution would ruin the mega lore at this point so

[unkempt egret]

doomed to the depths of Unusable

[sweet crypt]

Yeah so they're doomed to mediocrity at best and dogshit at worst

This is why I always would prefer a direct buff or an evolution to a mega

[brisk hedge]

Regular evolutions are generally better, but that’s obviously not possible for mons at the end of a 3 stage line

Though as we’ve seen, sometimes even regular evolutions aren’t safe from being made game exclusive

Looking at you regional evolutions and LA evolutions

Also Let’s Go not including post Gen 1 evolutions 🤮

[coarse estuary]

i have made achievement lists for many a pokemon game and wanted to do one with at least 1 other person. the games i have achievement lists for are frlg,hgss,plat,bw1,bw2,xy,oras, and usum. if you are interested please tell me what game youd wanna achievement run so i can send the corrisponding document

[unkempt egret]

super mariomon

actually if I saw your lists I probably could brainstorm one up for mariomon lol

I feel like I should finish up at least one of my runs (unbound, evolved, or scarlet) before I pick up another though but if I were to run any of those it'd probably be B2/W2? I'd have to see the list.

maybe XY, not sure

[simple quartz]

God I fucking hate regional evos

I understand it's a cool gimmick to have them be unique and I was with it when they were still 1:1 of the original mons but when they just straight up have their own exclusive evo that the original line just don't (and probably never will) have it makes me barf

[unkempt egret]

especially legends arceus which has both new evos of old mons and regional-exclusive evolutions

another reason why I tend to treat everything from US/UM onwards with a gigantic saltshaker and a side of rum

[coarse estuary]

I can send both lists if you want to look over em

[unkempt egret]

sure

[coarse estuary]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1glAwIUULoTpRGTp526pWuROfuez--9sq725zHJQkfY8/edit?usp=drive_web&ouid=113997536636194335226

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HNricFegmOESzmvVOip87f5GWZmRGQVC9Crq8Q3mRSw/edit?tab=t.0

[sweet crypt]

Then if they're bad, don't add another prevo to them

cough cough Wigglytuff cough cough

This shit is why I fucking hate a majority of baby Pokemon

They have 0 purpose apart from being a drawback and being marketable

[tight granite]

good designs and making sense

[simple quartz]

"Wow Stantler got an evo kind of an odd pick but I'm excit-"
only regional form Stantlers can evolve
"Oh well fuck you"

I don't even like Stantler that much but like what the hell was the point of that

[unkempt egret]

stantler I don't think is actually subject to that from what I recall it's more that they just arbitrarily can't evolve in scarlet/violet

[simple quartz]

Or just them deciding that Basculin will get an evo but only the L:A version for some reason

[unkempt egret]

emphasis on arbitrary since H-Qwilfish was in the same boat before one of the two DLC updates allowed it to evolve in Paldea

then again imo neither feels as arbitrary as Meltan which can only evolve in pokemon GO specifically, if one leaves GO then that's the form its stuck in

[simple quartz]

It just feels like a bandaid/last-minute fix because they probably were definitively exclusive and maybe they just realize "wait why would we spend dev time just for this mon's evo to only exist in one game oh shit lets uh bring em back"

It's all still in that fuckass category anyway because it's not like original Qwilfish can evolve

So is all Qwilfish coming back to the game from here just gonna be H-Qwilfish

[unkempt egret]

regular at least has intimidate on a water type lol

[simple quartz]

Are we just gonna constantly have two different Sneasels

Like it's just not a very sustainable concept when they actually have exclusive evos separate from the original line

[unkempt egret]

and have one of them just not be ice typed

especially when weavile's the one ice type that did understand its type's assignment fully rofl

[simple quartz]

Thankfully gen 9 fixes it lately a lot of the new Ice type actually understood the type's assignment

[unkempt egret]

but yea for gens 8 and 9 (I'm counting Lets GO as gen 8, will die on that hill) feel like the only explaination we can get is just "because GF/TCP says so"

[simple quartz]

If this keeps up I will allow more Avalugg-tier mons of their types as a treat

But yeah I don't like regional evos and the logistics is clearly unfeasible if they're always gonna be having their own exclusive evos and not just funny 1:1 separations

[unkempt egret]

which is probably what they've wanted since the start but fans just kept finding patterns and liked it when they could decently predict things

[simple quartz]

Also Toedscruel and Wugtrio is clearly supposed to be Paldean versions but they just decided to make them entirely separate for some reasons

[unkempt egret]

that one I feel is just so they could get 4 more dex entries to push Gholdengo to 999/1000

they are very much "regionals but we're not calling them regionals" considering some actual regionals have more differences than they do

[simple quartz]

It's just so goofy (derogatory)

[unkempt egret]

also exclusive evos I can kinda see it if the main form also has an evo like with quagsire/clodsire and I guess weavile/sneasler

[simple quartz]

That I can understand

[unkempt egret]

but I can see the complaining when one side is just made a straight upgrade over the other like with the single-stage regionals

[simple quartz]

The logistics is still fucky and weird but yknow it's all alternate 1:1 so its whatever

[unkempt egret]

then again it's not like that hasn't been an issue in the past like with mega evolutions just only going to one side of a two-part trio (though OR/AS in general was far more guilty of this than X/Y was)

[simple quartz]

Yeah its definitely so ass when it's cases like Mr. Rime or Sirfetch'd where they're just straight up exclusively just for the regional evos

[unkempt egret]

Rime I can kind of tolerate since regular mime is still servicable but

[simple quartz]

With Megas at least they very much are just temporary boost/saiyan/whatever forms and never really felt like it is the true final end of the line

[unkempt egret]

yea it is very much "outdated variant" vs "cool new variant" with some of em

that was very much Swish's fault since in alola it was 1-1 there

(though in that case the complaints were more focused on them all being kanto mons)

[simple quartz]

I'm still not letting Sirfetch'd go it could've been so tuff if Farfetch'd just got evos but nope only the regional version

And I'm pretty sure it ain't even good competitively (Singles/Doubles) so like that was just for nothing lmao

[unkempt egret]

I have let it go but only in the sense that I can't even find it in myself to give a crap about anything logistics-wise about gens 8 and 9 rofl

Lets GO was very much a jump-the-shark moment for me even if I understand its fans

[simple quartz]

All I'm saying is I'm glad Gen 9 actually decided "hey maybe instead of regional forms let's just give these guys evos"

[unkempt egret]

(if I'm being honest the series' exact jump-the-shark moment for me was mega charizard X's reveal in origins rofl)

[simple quartz]

And in their cases they're straight up pure upgrades than the regional exclusive evos

[unkempt egret]

but gens 6 and 7 still have some bright spots for me

[simple quartz]

Primeape's end of the line being literally Ubers-tier will never not be funny to me

[unkempt egret]

...actually that's kind of a misnomer since I like gens 8 and 9 as casual nuz games even if they feel like nonsense a lot of the time

[simple quartz]

They feel very slapdash as a game (and I'm not talking about the bugs or PS3-tier graphics)

[unkempt egret]

I can see that but I almost feel like that's a U-cur

actually I can't even finish that statement it's more like a sine wave considering gen 4 ROFL

[coarse estuary]

since it seems at this current time nobody has the time to do an achievement run with me ill do either oras usum or hgss on my own till someone has the time to do it with me

[simple quartz]

Gen 4 is just a very disastrous gen they were lucky they existed during the sprite era (plus being the gen that actually seeks to improve all the bad old mons of their day and give them a spotlight with evos and all the mechanic changes)

So the actual good art direction still shines through even when the game is

Certainly the slug molasses fest it is

[unkempt egret]

not tonight for me at least. I did brainstorm a list for mariomon at least.

[coarse estuary]

its not like a we have to do it at the same time its just like we play the game game and update as we go along like beat gym 1 or got this achievement or what not

[unkempt egret]

I'll see tomorrow if X/Y is available to restart since it's late for me right now

[coarse estuary]

imo the xy list is my fave out of all of em casue i came up wuth that last so some more ideas flew into me

[brisk hedge]

You can’t explode on me in this game

[unkempt egret]

this is late but ok GO didn't commit a geneva convention violation, the falinks costume's not paid-only

[wicked valve]

Anyone play pokemon go? Need one more zamazenta raid

373002809616

That’s my trainer code

[peak kite]

Pokemon go fest Falinks: "if we disguise as train, no one expects we are pokemon!"

[unkempt egret]

good start, found a group doing gigantamax raids

[hollow fern]

I've recently started development of my own pokemon fan game called pokemon lost and have just finished my new form for charmander

[vast ibex]

Guyss

Anyone will suggest any game

[scenic gazelle]

Pokémon Black 2 and White 2

[coarse estuary]

im starting to get 2nd hand hate for retro achiememets just because multiple people in various discords have said to me something along the lines of because retro achiements already has achiements for most of the pokemon games you made your own lists for means yours are automatically bad because retro achievements did it first even though ive not seen your lists

[unkempt egret]

it's pretty much a very consistent thought that not giving someone the time of day will be a quick way to pissing them off

it's also something most people do constantly because people value their own time way more than they should sometimes

on another note I think the torkoal/pachirisu/skiddo/klefki via GOFest incense is ticket only since I haven't seen any of them today while ticketless

the eggs might not be ticket only but I was in a bad position to set up hatching them combined with the game handing me two 10k eggs (which aren't boosted) and only one 2k (which is)

[coarse estuary]

i have made achievement lists for many a pokemon game and wanted to do one with at least 1 other person. the games i have achievement lists for are frlg,hgss,plat,bw1,bw2,xy,oras, and usum. if you are interested please tell me what game youd wanna achievement run so i can send the corrisponding document. just dropping this here incase people missed it yesterday

[delicate hollow]

Some of the early DS games battle animations moves take seconds to end like flash cannon when it ends it takes literally 5 seconds to finally do something

[light lodge]

can anyone recommend good fangames that are completed, have fakemon, and are easy to get?

i thirst for new pokermon

[coarse estuary]

insurgence, xenoverse solar light lunar dark pokemon old world dawn

[light lodge]

baller

thx

what about pokemon mystery dungeon fan games/rom hacks?

man, imagine if there was a mystery dungeon fan game with fakemon

[light lodge]

how do i know if a rom for eos isn't a virus?

[coarse estuary]

dont know as its against sever rules to talk about obtaining roms illegally

[light lodge]

alright

wait would i get arrested for downloading rom hacks?

is moemon gonna have me sent to the gulag?

[coarse estuary]

no as rom hacks are just applying a patch to your legally obtained copy of the game

[light lodge]

alright... but i do use things like firered squirrels and such

is that a crime?

[tight marten]

Yes

[coarse estuary]

bro you are way over thinking things\

[tight marten]

You’re dead already best burn the laptop

Nintendo ninjas know your location

[light lodge]

i don't wanna go to jail

gfjnjgfjgf

[tight marten]

Too late

Bun

[coarse estuary]

bro is trolling you you aint going to go to jail

[tight marten]

It’s too easy

[tight marten]

Are you brand new to the internet

💀

[light lodge]

i don't really socialize much lol

[tight marten]

Cuh lives under a rock that’s under a rock that’s in a third world country

[light lodge]

noooo

[tight marten]

He’s Patrick cubed

[coarse estuary]

but yeah rom hacks are fine as long as you aint paying to play it. the moment you pay its a scam

[tight marten]

You can technically still charge for it

Just don’t get caught

[light lodge]

land of the free

[coarse estuary]

thats not good advice to be giving lol

[tight marten]

Ehh

It’ll help him make his bag

[light lodge]

🇲🇾 we love murica

[coarse estuary]

then doesnt use the murica flag

[light lodge]

ik it's not the murica flag

but it looks cooler

[sweet crypt]

🇺🇸 🇲🇾 have both flags for comparison

[willow raft]

For a Galatian Zapdos what would be better to use?
Terra
Z-move
Dynamax

[light lodge]

i know i've been dumb up to this point but i swear i was using the moon flag ironically

[coarse estuary]

deoends on the context

[sweet crypt]

It'd be better to use Tera, Z Move or Dynamax on something else usually

[willow raft]

I can get all of them at some point

just need to figure out what first

[sweet crypt]

But if you had to pick one, probably Tera?

Well, assuming Dmax is banned

Because everyone bans Dmax for being broken as fuck

[willow raft]

It’s a fangame

[sweet crypt]

Oh in that case Dmax easily

Unless you have a better user, but Gapdos is a Max Airstream user

So like

[willow raft]

rogue like where you have to do the pit of 100 trials

[sweet crypt]

Probably one of the best abusers of Dmax

[coarse estuary]

the pit is not a fan game its a rom hack

[willow raft]

It’s basically a new game tho

[sweet crypt]

It even has Max Knuckle to raise its own Physical Attack

[coarse estuary]

doesnt matter its still by definition a rom hack

[sweet crypt]

And these are its STAB Max moves

[willow raft]

My team is

Zapdos (galar)
Centiscorch
Muk
Ponyta (galar)

[sweet crypt]

Now I'm wondering how tf there's both a galarian ponyta and a Gapdos on the exact same team

Which only has 4 Pokemon

[willow raft]

You get a new mon every 25th level

And start with 3 Pokemon

[sweet crypt]

Is it literally just random between anything that exists

Like theoretically could your first 3 Pokemon be Eternatus Yveltal NDM

[willow raft]

Yeah basically

[sweet crypt]

Like you're playing Gen 8 Ubers or something

[willow raft]

Best part is you can play as any pokemon

As the trainer

I’m currently my favourite pokemon buizel

[willow raft]

The main reason I ask is cause dynamax is 25k and terra is 10k

Dynamax could prob help a lot honestly

[sweet crypt]

Generally, doubling your HP and turning every move into a mini Z Move is good, even if it only lasts 3 turns

[light lodge]

holy crap i have been struggling with romming for 2 hours and my little brother did it for me in less than a minute

i feel so beta

[willow raft]

my ponyta evolved into a meowth 💀

[sweet crypt]

Wgar

[willow raft]

i had evos randomized

[unkempt egret]

oh right I forgot to bring it up and it's a bit on the old(ish) side now but Viva las Vega is another good romhack with fakemons if you're looking for something else afterwards

[delicate hollow]

What's this new fan game where it's open world?
Revival project or something?

[graceful osprey]

So I got shield recently with the pass

I has sword too

I decided to use Galarian Slowbro

God is that pokemon funny as hell

I maxed evs on its atk and sp atk, the enemy used light screen, shell side canon said fuck your light screen and used the psychical version

What a perfectly coded movr

[unkempt egret]

fantastic

also funny thing about the pass

if you start a new save file on another switch profile that profile also gets the pass content even if it doesn't have online, so if you wanna do other runs then it's a nice lil' bonus

(this is also true for gen 9's as well)

[tall goblet]

guys anyone know how to randomize rom?

[lusty crag]

Can you recommend where to download Pokemon Violet ROM?
Desirable with compatibility with yuzu

[unkempt egret]

any questions involving ROMs are to be figured out on your own

I can say that the universal randomizer is good for randomizers though

[graceful osprey]

These footprints still piss me off

[rustic surge]

https://tenor.com/view/starwalker-deltarune-pass-the-starwalker-bro-undertale-gif-25980075

[raw quest]

Ive become boss in my team rocket playthrough
absolutely love my team (gyarados is shiny)
all thats left to conquer is the league

this game made me realize that sandslash is actually pretty solid

[coarse estuary]

beat the main story of my bw1/bw2 casual playthrough thing im doin rn. save is ready to be moved into bw2 for unova link but im not. will do the bw1 post game first

[unkempt egret]

pretty solid, nice Maractus clear

[coarse estuary]

this was an interesting team as it had all mons (not counting starter) ive only used 1 time or never used. also loved the way this team synergised with eachother

[simple quartz]

That screen looks kinda crusty

[coarse estuary]

ok and?

[left phoenix]

which rom hack or fangame would you consider to have the best story?

like I really cant decide, not because great stories, but because most I played always had something that made the story really "meh" for me

i mean sometimes is really edgy or really plain

[coarse estuary]

xenoverse, old world dawn or vangaurd

[left phoenix]

xenoverse idk, i played like till 3 gym and was kinda generic

should give it a full try i guess

the other 2 idk

so i would try them

[coarse estuary]

yeah xenoverse needs to be played through the whole way to like the story on it

imo

[left phoenix]

a pokemon hackrom that I enjoyed was odyssey, but once again It didnt shock me or made me like idk feel

One of my favorite hackroms was pokemon black dark

it was abandoned

[coarse estuary]

i will say if you dont like the story of any fan games/rom hacks you can always make your own game to have the story you want

[left phoenix]

story whithout conclusion

it was such an amazing hack for the time

[left phoenix]

planning that at a far away future

And is not that i dont like those stories

Is just that none have made me loved so much

probably should try reborn

and cmon, the first hackroms aged really bad

still, they were the beginning and should still be respected (like they did those hacks without any reference so mad respect)

[coarse estuary]

i just said what i said because it seemed like you were just like all the stories of fan games and rom hacks are so bad because they aint exactly what i specifically want

[left phoenix]

Sorry if I sounded like that

I actually dont consider myself as someone who played a lot of hackroms

ok i think I played at least more than 10

But some were like in difficulty

like radical red

or old ones like the pokemon black dark that i mentioned

which was the story that i truly loved

because is the pokemon team rocket edition before it existed lol

except that in some kind of reinvention

really cool

So yeah I will try the hackroms/fangames you mentioned

[flint lagoon]

randomly not playing PokeRogue rn hahaha I have no idea what I am doing but alright

[coarse estuary]

i think once i beat the post game of the white 1 save and transfer it in to white 2 ima do an almost hackless mon run and give myself a buff just so i dont have to wait till post ghesis fight to get one

[flint lagoon]

I am not good at PokeRogue. I haven't lost the current run fully, I did put retries on, but still I hate how much the enemies switch their Pokemon in this game

[sweet crypt]

If you're playing any fangame or romhack that modifies difficulty, expect a lot more switches

Though, if I'm being honest, I feel like Pokerogue is one of the less annoying ones when it comes to this, at least for me

Usually I end up using Pokemon with a high number of good or workable MUs, and lead with a setup move to turn the small number of Pokemon that could handle mine even smaller

[flint lagoon]

my run ended at just over 150 levels cleared. pretty alright for a first run ig

[sweet crypt]

But even then, I still always keep a backup

In case I find a truly unworkable MU

[sweet crypt]

150 on first run is good

My first run was like, 190? But most I see end before even 100

[flint lagoon]

I had only done a few daily runs before that had set amounts of floors

[sweet crypt]

I vividly remember Leon fucking destroying my ass with Zacian

And I think that was my first run

But it may have been the 2nd or 3rd idk

[flint lagoon]

one of my fights ended with my last Pokemon on the team with 1 hp cause of sturdy

thankfully they all got healed after that fight

[sweet crypt]

After 210+ runs it's hard to keep track of your earliest

I have uhh

Done a lot of runs

[flint lagoon]

mhmm, due to the daily runs I did before I got a few good mons to start with

a costume pikachu, a tandemaus

and a pokerus poochyenna today

[sweet crypt]

Hey are challenge runs counted under the classic run count I'm too lazy to check

[flint lagoon]

I have no clue

while I was doing runs I did get and hatch some eggs~ which was nice

[sweet crypt]

Anyways, I've first tried every challenge run apart from Fresh Start where I resetted for a good MU with my main carry starter into the rival's main carry starter

[flint lagoon]

think what killed me in the end was my team being slowww

[sweet crypt]

Which didn't matter because I caught a Meowscarada then got Training Session or whatever it's called like 1 round later

And then Taxel

So I was fucking stacked

[flint lagoon]

nicee

hatched some kind of shiny during my run

[sweet crypt]

Got very lucky for Fresh Start tbh

[flint lagoon]

and a Palkia

[sweet crypt]

The most important thing to remember about Pokerogue

Is that the perfect combo of egg moves and passive on certain Pokemon turns into free wins

[flint lagoon]

yupp

[sweet crypt]

Once you get one free win, you can get a lot more

And then the real fun of using whatever the fuck you want to to win begins

[coarse estuary]

other than starter and buff what are some underused bw2 team members?

[sweet crypt]

I recently did a Dudunsparce run it was kinda ballin

[sweet crypt]

Idk, I've seen practically every Pokemon available mentioned in the context of B2W2 runs

(Not literally)

(But seriously I've seen a lot of variety there)

[coarse estuary]

guess thats fair. maybe since im using starter and buff ill just use mons ive not used b4 or only used 1-2 times b4

like buff

[sweet crypt]

Also do you mean bouffalant

My ass cannot think of a pokemon that starts with buff

But I could also be stupid

[coarse estuary]

yeah i do i just call im buff because hes basef offa buffalo

[flint lagoon]

man today's daily run sucks

the 3 pokemon they give you have an attack they can't even use

ah the shiny Pokemon I had hatched was a Pineco

[brisk hedge]

And that’s different from literally every other Eevee card how?

[unkempt egret]

it has +30 HP

...which doesn't matter unless you're using Espeon or Leafeon against a fighting deck since with lucario normal eevee can get bopped before it can evolve thanks to the +40 damage (+20 from lucario and +20 from the fighting weakness)

does also technically allow you to run four eevee cards since it's an EX card and not a normal one but it's mostly the +30 health lol

[brisk hedge]

I was specifically talking about the ability

[unkempt egret]

oh I think that's because EX cards for basic stage mons can't normally evolve but the only basis of that is pikachu's since that's the only basic EX that is otherwise blocked

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/why-asking-confused-gif-4593721

[unkempt egret]

"you can trust metronome it'll be fuuuun"

[brisk hedge]

Hey, they said it’d be fun, not effective

[stray radish]

Hey who knows how to mega evolve in Greninja Z

[coarse estuary]

never heard of greninja z

[sweet crypt]

And it is

[crimson apex]

Fairy Monotype

[coarse estuary]

what game?

[crimson apex]

Team Rocket Edition

-Gardevoir with Mega.

-Milotic with Special Scale & Steel Ball (+35% def, -50% speed).

-Mimikyu with Float stone (+25% speed).

-Galarian Rapidash with Eviolite.

-Galarian Weezing with Gas Condensate (+30% Atq.Esp, Def, Def.Esp & -30% Atq in Weezing & Weezing Galar).

And Togekiss Fairy Move Z

[coarse estuary]

the og one or the one with the weird evos

[crimson apex]

Weird evos?

[lusty scaffold]

Anyone know of any good romhacks where I can have a minior on my team?

[crimson apex]

Team rocket edition

[lusty scaffold]

Really? I imagined that to be a gen1 game

[crimson apex]

You can go to kanto, jotho, hoenn

Pokemon form 1-9gen

[crimson apex]

Gardevoir moveset:
-Boomburst
-Glitzy Glow
-Energy Ball
-Aural Sphere

Milotic Move set:

-Brine
-Moonblast
-Ice Beam
-Recover

Rapidash Galar moveset:
-Psicocut
-Will-O-Wisp
-Play Rough
-Horse Power

Weezing Galar move set:
-Toxic Wave
-Draining Kiss
-Will-O-Wisp
-Heat Wave

Togekiss Move set:
-Moonblast
-Air slash
-Ancient Power
-Stored Power

Mimikyu move set:
-Drain Punch
-Play Rough
-Shadow Sneak
-Belly Drum

[crimson apex]

Also beta pokemon form beta pkmn gold spaceworld 1997

New megas

[lusty scaffold]

OOh, will try that one once I'm done with Odyssey :)

[sweet crypt]

Belly Drum on Mimikyu is crazy wtf

[lusty scaffold]

It doesn't even have a belly XD
I think.

[crimson apex]

This shit is crazy.
Translate:

||Name: Dragonite&. (Boss fight)||

||Ps: 101||
||Atq: 94||
||Def: 115||
||Atq.Esp: 154||
||Def.Esp: 154||
||Velocidad: 110||
||Total: 725||
||Dragon/Fairy||
||Ability: No guard||

[left phoenix]

i love pokemon team rocket edition

dragonsden my beloved

[sweet crypt]

||I mean, if it's meant to be just a boss then tbh, not too bad||

[crimson apex]

https://tenor.com/view/handshake-muscles-lets-go-gif-13415213

[crimson apex]

A boss in a trainer battle 6v6

[sweet crypt]

Ah in that case could be problematic

But not the craziest I've seen

[crimson apex]

Before a boss rush

[sweet crypt]

OK, but like comparing this to the Radical Red E4

That ones probably crazier

[crimson apex]

No. Look

This is a final boss battle in the third arc on the hackrom, (its not the hackrom final)

||Arceus Primal||
||150 in all stats, with protean||

||original Dragon

Dragon type,
Ps: 125,
Atq: 195,
Def: 120,
Atq.esp: 195,
Def.esp: 120,
Speed: 145,

No guard||

||Missigno, Ghost/fairy

Ps: 128,
Atq: 130,
Def: 129,
Atq.esp: 196,
Def.esp: 156,
Speed: 156.
Magic Bounce||

Trainer battle 3v6

[sweet crypt]

||Nah, it's a 3v6, simply win fr on god||

||Anyways, lore inaccurate Missingno, 0/10||

||Where are the dogshit stats and bizarre type||

[crimson apex]

||Before kill creepypastas pokemons, primal ho-oh, lugia ho-oh, origin dialgia, palkia, giratina, kabutops and aerodactyl fossils, ghost from lavander town, a legendary spammer fight.||

||The missigno is lvl 101 when you limit is lv 100||

[sweet crypt]

||Who the fuck invited this creepypasta ass mf||

[crimson apex]

This hack is a love letter to the Pokemon mythos and creepypasta community.

+1200 pkmn in total (~200 new pokemon)

[sweet crypt]

I kinda assumed it was about Team Rocket

And not about creepypasta

[crimson apex]

both, but it makes everything fit SO WELL.

[sweet crypt]

Scary Spaghetti

Mortifying Macaroni

[crimson apex]

https://tenor.com/view/undertale-papyrus-goku-prowler-meme-uncanny-raised-eyebrows-gif-17919567901574007542

[sweet crypt]

You're blue now!

Frightening Fettuccine

[crimson apex]

I'm blue da ba dee dabba da-ee
Da ba dee dabba da-ee
Da ba dee dabba da-ee
Da ba dee dabba da-ee
Da ba dee dabba da-ee
Da ba dee dabba da-ee
Da ba dee dabba da-ee

[left phoenix]

its a love letter to the fandom theories

and rumors

like the pokegods

Spoiler ||it also has beta pokemon from johto||

Really cool

[crimson apex]

Yes, but nidogod is the only pokegod in the hack

They want to add more like the Cacturne concept art from the Tera leak but they are having problems with Gamefreak, although I don't think they will complain about designs that were discarded.

I would call him Cacterror

[left phoenix]

there is gorochu

as well as other neat things

[crimson apex]

I know, also Akueria, shibirefugu (qwoltfish)

Beta porygon2

[smoky gyro]

Looks like something straight out of little nightmares

[covert fiber]

I hope this doesnt count as a spoiler but talonflame is most likely getting a mega as its been foreshadowed multiple times

[brisk hedge]

Foreshadowed where?

[unkempt egret]

yea ||I haven't seen any official news placing an emphasis on talonflame compared to other mons so they might be too leak-brained lol||

[misty turtle]

I hope talonflame gets a mega I like talonflame :)

[covert fiber]

I dont know if this counts as foreshadowing but it was shown in the kalos war

Then later in z-a the devs would use it in their teams

And it would later make itself to the box art

[brisk hedge]

1. It being shown in the Kalos war means absolutely nothing
2. What do you mean by “the devs used it on their teams”? Do you mean that it was being used in trailers?
3. Talonflame isn’t on the box art

Honestly I didn’t even know we had the box art until now

[covert fiber]

Oh shit im thinking of noivern

Or wait show full scale image