other-pokemon-games

[sweet crypt]

It's just a retextured joke of something that has been a stale joke for ages

[frank lily]

then again, that implies that they were ever good

[sweet crypt]

Being a fan of any bipedal Pokemon sucks

Either you get hounded for liking a popular Pokemon

[frank lily]

his reputation in the fandom got smashed over poorly translated lore that probably isn't even canon anymore

[sweet crypt]

Or hounded for... yknow

[stray ibex]

Gardevoir?

[graceful mirage]

It was never canon it was a writing exercise in writing yokai stories with pokemon

They are like 1 to 1 with a lot of them

[frank lily]

Ahh. I thought it was meant to be canon folklore for the Pokemon universe

[graceful mirage]

Nope

[frank lily]

that makes it even worse

[sweet crypt]

Simply don't let these idiots bother you with their absolute stupidity and continue liking what you like

[frank lily]

Yeah that's what I do

[sweet crypt]

I see people just turn on their favorites over this

And that's ridiculous

[graceful mirage]

Or just like Spheal the objectively correct choice instead

[sweet crypt]

"Oh I used to like Vaporeon but now? Least favorite Eeveelution"

[graceful mirage]

How tf is bruxish in this game but not spheal

[sweet crypt]

Like bruh

[sweet crypt]

Joke addition

[frank lily]

Nah Bruxish I can get past

[sweet crypt]

Unironically it actually passes good shit in terms of practicality

[graceful mirage]

Well seel had to be there because they wanted the full gen 1 dex

[frank lily]

Carbink getting added over Tropius was such a missed opportunity

[graceful mirage]

I mean it would be weird to have diancie (probably my favorite legendary) and not carbink

[frank lily]

Diancie was added after Carbink

[graceful mirage]

Idk then

[sweet crypt]

I can see the appeal behind Carbink but I can also get the people who don't enjoy its addition

[graceful mirage]

I still don't think we have anything with snow warning?

[sweet crypt]

That said I'm mildly upset with Carbink because it kinda hurts Gigalith'a chances a bit because they're both Rock types with fixation around crystals

[frank lily]

We have the Amaura line

[sweet crypt]

That said Gigalith is basically a Rock type Metagross

[frank lily]

Gigalith is cool

[graceful mirage]

You know I forgot amaura existed

[sweet crypt]

So I'm gonna continue coping on its addition

[frank lily]

would've much preferred that

[sweet crypt]

Based on that alone

[graceful mirage]

I mean I like carbink

Mostly entirely because I really like diancie tho

[frank lily]

I really hope we get the Spheal line when more mons get added

[graceful mirage]

Spheal feels so obvious

[sweet crypt]

I'm on that Gen 5 copium with Gigalith and Darmanitan tbh

[frank lily]

it's been long enough

[graceful mirage]

Everyone loves spheal

[frank lily]

yeah

[sweet crypt]

They're never getting added but I will not stop coping

[frank lily]

Walrein and Sealeo are super cool too

[frank lily]

Darmanitan would be cool

[graceful mirage]

I like walrein a lot too

Sealeo is whatever

[frank lily]

but the Chimchar line kinda hurt it's chance of being added

[unkempt egret]

speaking of GO earlier

[graceful mirage]

Spheal tho

[sweet crypt]

I have 0 clue how Zen Mode would work and honestly I don't care because I'm too busy spamming Sheer Force boosted Fire moves

And whatever secondary type I fused it with

[unkempt egret]

the thing said 2500 CP but doing it under 2000 was fun

[graceful mirage]

Monkeys paw galarian darmanitan only

[sweet crypt]

Still based

[graceful mirage]

True

[frank lily]

I wish we could get gen 8+

[sweet crypt]

Especially since it opens the possibility of Gen 8 as a whole

Which is exactly why it isn't happening

Since that's not a possibility

[stray ibex]

This is my boy

[graceful mirage]

I like falinks a lot too

[sweet crypt]

But god that'd be amazing

[stray ibex]

Same

[graceful mirage]

So many cool ways to take falinks fusions

[frank lily]

It could be a possibility. Just not for a while

[sweet crypt]

Don't get me wrong I'm a massive fan of Gdarm

[stray ibex]

They’re just little guys

[unkempt egret]

amaura/aurorus and delibird if we're talking IF?

[sweet crypt]

But if I see it get added

I am not surprised for it

Or well excited

[graceful mirage]

Delibird gets snow warning?!?!

[sweet crypt]

Idk why I said surprised there

[graceful mirage]

Since when

[sweet crypt]

I'm excited for Frosmoth

[graceful mirage]

Why didn't I know this

I love delibird

[sweet crypt]

Aurorus does

[unkempt egret]

only in IF

[sweet crypt]

Oh wait mb I can't read

[graceful mirage]

Iron bundle is my savior they finally made delibird strong

[unkempt egret]

since it has two of the same ability in vanilla

[sweet crypt]

I can't read, I'm an Undertale Fan

[graceful mirage]

It's so funny to me that robo delibird is so cracked

[sweet crypt]

The scientists were onto something when they turned everything into a cyborg is all I'm saying

[graceful mirage]

Who else is even cool in gen 8 there's not that many gen 8 pokemon I like

[graceful mirage]

Tbh most of those designs are misses imo

[sweet crypt]

I'm a fan of the massive apocalypse alien dragon

In fact both the massive apocalypse alien dragons are peak

[graceful mirage]

Iron jugulisk manages to be so boring despite being hydreigon

[sweet crypt]

Gamefreak has a thing for those

[sweet crypt]

Iron Jugulis is basically just Hydreigon

[graceful mirage]

Right

That's it

[sweet crypt]

Which is exactly I rank it exactly the same as Hydreigon

[graceful mirage]

Tbh I'd rank it lower

[sweet crypt]

If Hydreigon is a high B tier so is Iron Jugulis

I cant rank them too differently whatsoever for me

[graceful mirage]

Iron bundle gets some interesting stuff at least like the skis and the jack in the box extendo neck

Man the new mons in the gen 8 dex are kinda weak overall imo

[sweet crypt]

If I ranked the paradox Pokemon while thinking of how different they were from the original every single one apart from the bicycles, Slither Wing, Sandy Shocks, Iron Valiant and maybe like 2-4 other mfs drop at least 1 full tier

[graceful mirage]

I don't like that many of them

[sweet crypt]

Also that's Gen 9 lmao

Mega Salamence with feathers isn't a very revolutionary idea

But god fucking damn, did they execute it well

[graceful mirage]

I mean it's cool that it's the mega

[sweet crypt]

Helps that Mega Salamence is a good design in the first place (imo)

At the same time though

Flutter Mane can go die in a fire

And only half of it is me speaking as a Competitive player

[graceful mirage]

Fluttermane is cool but comp makes me hate it

Iron bundle is somehow way funnier because it's so good in comp

Well it was

It's kinda fallen off

[sweet crypt]

Mfw growing long hair gives you an arguable top 1 type combo, a massive stat boost and an absurdly minmaxed stat spread

Gee how fun

If only growing long hair IRL suddenly made me able to square up with Godzilla

Flutter Mane has fallen off a lot in Singles

But I will never forget that it once outranked the previous undisputed 2nd best Pokemon of Ubers

Or was it 3rd?

[graceful mirage]

Tbh I forget who you are talking about

[sweet crypt]

Gen 8 Ubers was known for its "Big 3": Yveltal, NDM and Eternatus

[graceful mirage]

I mostly play whatever the current regulation is

[sweet crypt]

Here I am referring to Eternatus

These 3 had 90% usage rates

Which is straight up unheard of

[graceful mirage]

Yeah doesn't eternamax have an utterly absurd stats

[sweet crypt]

If it was Eternamax Eternatus I was referring to, I'd be talking about AGBL

Eternamax is so absurd it'd literally make Mega Rayquaza look like a Caterpie in comparison

[graceful mirage]

They should bring back tapu lele I did some funny shit with her back in gen 7

[sweet crypt]

This is base Eternatus as a 90% Ubers usage rate Pokemon

However, the addition of a lot of faster SE threats like Chien-Pao, Iron Bundle, Miraidon and Koraidon had hit its viability massively

However, with the ban of Miraidon which also heavily hurt Iron Bundle, as well as overall meta changes, Eternatus has risen up massively once again

[graceful mirage]

Yeah they finally started making good ice types in gen 9

[sweet crypt]

That said, Flutter Mane had fallen off before even that

Good riddance

This Pokemon fucking sucks

As much as Gen 9 is my favorite roster of Pokemon

[graceful mirage]

At least iron bundle had a fun design

Fluttermane is so boring

[sweet crypt]

Flutter Mane will always be my least favourite Pokemon

There is 0 way around it

Abysmal Dogshit

[graceful mirage]

I wish the oricorios were good tbh

[sweet crypt]

I mean if you like it that's cool and all

But I will hate it with all my might and you cannot stop me

[graceful mirage]

I'm just kinds lukewarm on flutter

It's just kinda boring

Sadly I don't live the world where clodsire is good

Also weird that duralodon got a unique dynamax and then later an evolution

That's like if cacturne could mega evolve and then they added a cacturne evolution

Also please gamefreak make a cacturne evolution

It needs somethinf

Anyway new megas will be fun

Hopefully mega delphox gets a real ability and not magician

[sweet crypt]

||I would say no spoilers but I highly doubt anybody didn't see this coming||

[graceful mirage]

Well it definitely won't keep magician because magician would do literally for a mega delphox who has to hold a mega stone

[graceful mirage]

These are like the most predictable things ever

Obviously they are gonna make new megas

And the kalos starters are finally going to get theirs

[sweet crypt]

Hear me out: Psychic Surge with Expanding Force

[graceful mirage]

And hopefully charizard doesn't get a third one

[sweet crypt]

If you're gonna give Delphox a less than ideal type

May as well abuse the fucking shit out of it

[graceful mirage]

Psychic surge delphox would go hard

Tapu lele would still do it better but it would be fun

[sweet crypt]

Consider the following: Expanding Force

[graceful mirage]

Would be cool

I forget how long does psychic terrain last

[sweet crypt]

Delphox already has Eforce

[sweet crypt]

5 turns, more than plenty to break massive holes in ill-prepared teams

[graceful mirage]

Give delphox parting shot too for the funny

[sweet crypt]

And Delphox already is faster than Lele

Admittedly Lele often holds a Choice Scarf

And a Mega Delphox can't

[graceful mirage]

Yeah but lele can hold items and doesn't prevent you from using a different mega

And is a better typing

[sweet crypt]

OK but Expanding Force is a big buff over Psychic/Psyshock

And Delphox would be able to switch moves with its faster speed

Expanding Force is the main thing here

That and the Fire type allowing Delphox to hit Steel types harder than Lele

Especially Ferrothorn

Ferrothorn tanks Specs Lele Focus Blast and has a chance to OHKO with Gyro Ball

Delphox has no such problem with damage output vs Ferrothorn

[tight granite]

Kinda ugly

[sweet crypt]

That said simply swap to a Water type lmao

[tight granite]

Don't like the animation either

[graceful mirage]

There's a few others who iirc are supposed to be getting megas

Meganium I guess?

I don't like meganium

[tawny sail]

i have a question what other fan games r there like pif

[graceful mirage]

Baileaf is the rare example of the middle evolution being the best one

[graceful mirage]

Uh mariomon was pretty good if you know how to get romhacks to work

Recently played mariomon and irs super high quality and polished

I'd say the level of polish is higher than that of IF even with less content

Although part of that is just being a romhack and not made in rpgmaker

[tawny sail]

sadly i dont know how they work

[sweet crypt]

I feel like having less content makes it easier to polish since there's so much less to focus on

May just be me though

[graceful mirage]

I mean it still has a lot of content. It's a full new pokemon game with brand new locales a brand new dex of 151 mons and a pretty substantial postgame

[sweet crypt]

And tbf IF has been around for a lot longer afaik

[graceful mirage]

It just doesn't also have Johto

[sweet crypt]

Less here is in comparison to IF

[graceful mirage]

True

IF has a lot

[sweet crypt]

IF is quite easily on the higher end for fangames and romhacks

[unkempt egret]

I would say "see also: pokemon vega" but vanilla vega waits outside the first gym's window with a baseball bat and strikes at its first and every chance

(I do highly rec both vega minus and viva las vega though for hacks. former is more true to vanilla vega's base 151 mons while the latter also adds the postgame mons in maingame)

[sweet crypt]

Ngl at times the number of fusions can be overwhelming

(And at others I somehow do not find anything that I want lmfaoooo)

[unkempt egret]

the mario one looks neat though, might check it once I'm done with the evolutions hack

[sweet crypt]

(Well it has to be some kind of achievement for Ferrothorn that it's so flawless that it's hard to find something good to fuse it with, right?)

[graceful mirage]

Trying to fuse anything with diance is hard because A (stuff gets rock type a lot of the time which I'd always bad) and B. A lot of the fusions just have strictly worse stats than just diancie

[sweet crypt]

Ferrothorn's just a crazy Pokemon tbh, it is incredibly hard thinking of ways it'd fall out of OU ever without a direct evolution

And even then, Ferrothorn may just be able to make it work still

Though I am doubtful, Eviolite has proven to be almost always overshadowed in recent gens

[unkempt egret]

meanwhile on the other hand I'm like "yooo I can drag lugia below 560 BST and gastly up to above 480 sign me up"

yes thanks to knock off, and it kinda wanting that extra recovery or chip

[sweet crypt]

There's quite literally 0 Pokemon in Singles that is better than its evolution with Eviolite in current gen

[unkempt egret]

and also HDB Safe Switcher of course

[sweet crypt]

Except maybe Dusclops vs Dusknoir? But I can't be certain since it's very much trash vs garbage and I can't find anything on either

These 2 are pretty much even in terms of who is better in Singles

[unkempt egret]

I was gonna say yea both of those are probably in Unusable (my unofficial tier of "not even viable in ZU")

[sweet crypt]

Some generations it's Dusknoir, some it's Dusclops, and it's a 50/50 split

Though they're 100% terrible

It is unfortunate

Maybe if they had reliable recovery

Or something

Idk

Porygon2 gets a reputation of being better than Z, but in Singles, that's just not true

Not only are their roles completely incomparable

But 2 has been better in a singular generation

Maybe 2? I may be misremembering

And never by a large amount

While when Z is better, usually it's by a sizeable amount

Part of it is that Z is pretty darn good at abusing both Z Moves and Tera

Rather fitting for the former

Chansey was better

However, Heavy-Duty Boots

I rest my case

But this is why I think Eviolite Ferrothorn may stand a chance vs an evolution

Steel types are just not as troubled as other types by entry hazards

No worries about Tspikes, and Stealth Rocks aren't doing much either

Ferrothorn often opts for Leftovers instead

Or even Rocky Helmet

And when Blissey was using Leftovers, iirc Eviolite Chansey was generally preferred (could be wrong though)

That said, Blissey and Ferrothorn aren't alike

The one similarity they have is that they're defensive Pokemon

But they don't fit on the same team archetypes

Oops, and here I go rambling again

[coarse estuary]

are there any rom hacks out there that are just like the challenge mode from bw2?

[last egret]

I’d argue Porygon2 with eviolite in some scenarios is better than Porygon Z

Porygon Z loses significant bulk in exchange for speed which sometimes is good sometimes is not as good

Depending on what you need

[supple basalt]

I've got a puppy, a horse and a dream

Cause the horse wouldn't lemme bring the whole squad

[last egret]

What game is that

[supple basalt]

It's a romhack of Sky. Explorers of Fortune

[last egret]

I didn’t even know PMD rom hacks existed

Is it any good?

[supple basalt]

Yep. There are several. In order to use them though you have to patch an Explorers rom of the appropriate game

[last egret]

Is it like a completely new story or is it basically just Sky with a couple new additions

[supple basalt]

They don't provide the rom, just the patch

[supple basalt]

Out of the three I've played (Heaven/Hell/Fortune), 2/3 of them are base story with new pokemon and QOL improvements

Hell is a different story but at the cost it's insanely vulgar with jokes that are borderline uncomfortable

[last egret]

I’ve played Pokémon clover. I am fine with offensive jokes

[supple basalt]

Then Hell might be up your ally then :> Thanks for telling me to keep away from that lol

[last egret]

You never played Clover?

Oh man yeah don’t do it if ur easily offended

[supple basalt]

I'm not easily offended. The jokes in Explorers of Hell make me uncomfortable

Like they're probably not allowed in this server

[last egret]

Clover is very offensive. Think like Family Guy and South Park levels of offensive

But it’s also edgy for the sake of being edgy almost to a comedic degree

[supple basalt]

Lol I've played stuff like that

(Zelda: Twilight Princess)

[last egret]

I know people who thought Pokémon Insurgence was extremely dark and offensive.

Clover is like 10x worse

[supple basalt]

Pokemon Insurgence is great

I love Insurgence even though the gameplay is difficult if you aren't a competitive player

Vulgar and Offensive jokes in games don't bug me. Jokes surrounding serious triggering subjects do

[last egret]

Insurgence has a good balance of difficulty where it’s not absurdly hard but it takes more strategy than just spamming super effective moves

[supple basalt]

Yeah so it's hard if you don't know how to build a competitive team since the NPCs are smart lol

[last egret]

Yeah a lot of people get a big wake up call with the first and second gyms cuz they can’t get away with running in with no plan anymore

[supple basalt]

The 1st gym wasn't an issue. The 2nd one, well...

I had to overlevel my Delta Gardevoir to kill that fucking mega beedrill

[last egret]

I’ve been playing this extremely long fangame called Pokémon Rejuvenations. It’s genuinely hard. Their “casual mode” is about the same difficulty as Insurgence

The normal mode is so hard I actually had to switch off of it and I played my fair share of fangames

[supple basalt]

Until you implement a randomizer

I didn't have nearly as many issues on the mega rayquaza fight in rando cause NPCs aren't supposed to have those pokemon lol

On base game though, that dragon dancing mega ray would have destroyed me if I didn't have Delta Volcarona early because of a pal who bred me one

It's the only one of my team that didn't get one-shot but it lived on 10 HP

[last egret]

I had a delta Gardevoir that was wreaking havoc in insurgence

[supple basalt]

Yeah lol mine is good too

Before going to get one I searched the grass for a Modest synchronize ralts/kirlia (they both spawn) so my delta gardevoir would be sure to be Modest

[visual saddle]

Cresselia it is

[sonic sky]

love him

got shiny qwilfish full odds while doing a monodragon

but in black 2

[quasi dagger]

what does shiny qwilfish even look like

[unkempt egret]

pink

[sonic sky]

party aint playing tho

[narrow ledge]

I can die a happy man now

(Cynthia MIGHT be my fav character)

[unkempt egret]

nice nice, mines still electrode

[unkempt egret]

ok finally got the pawmot stuff done

through cruelty, of course.

[quasi dagger]

i forgot it just turns pink

[last egret]

@supple basalt I can guess your favorite Pokémon

[coarse estuary]

found 3 really cool hacks for people who wanted bw2 challenge mode in other games

[sweet crypt]

Yes, in some scenarios

Which is why I say they're not directly comparable

However, Porygon-Z has generally been the better Pokemon

[broken crater]

I would argue I am the better pokemon

[sweet crypt]

OK but you're unobtainable without hacking so you do not count

[broken crater]

I am just playing hard to get

[sweet crypt]

You still don't count

[broken crater]

Chat is this racism

[normal lark]

uhmm just got shiny beldum after 7 resets looking for a jolly nature

[supple basalt]

YO

[brisk hedge]

That’s not an evolution though

[supple basalt]

I know. I think you can "evolve" some pokemon into their alternate forms at enough IQ

If I'm reading the page right

That's probably the only way this romhack could put that in here and still explain it

[covert fiber]

Bro?

[supple basalt]

<3 I have electric kibby

[supple basalt]

It's the origin form of dialga. P cool lol

Lol Zeroara out here casually with Zekrom's signature move

[brisk hedge]

Mystery Dungeon 5 when?

[supple basalt]

TRUTH

Need more mystery dungeon in my life

[last egret]

ah yes the floor is made of floor

[brisk hedge]

Honestly, there are a bunch of cool spinoffs that need sequels

[supple basalt]

Agree. PMD already has a ton of games. I wish Pokemon Ranger got more love (Though without making people break the screen on their game system)

[brisk hedge]

If I had a nickel for every time I’ve seen that phrase on Discord today I’d have 2 nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice

[supple basalt]

THUMP

Idk why that made me giggle

[coarse estuary]

honestly i wish i had more friends irl who liked pokemon as i feel as if it would be so fun to do like a casual playthrough with friends but after each gym everyone battled everyone to see how each persons team evolved and the mons they decided to pick and not pick then a final battle after beating the champion

[tropic hinge]

Seems like a fun competition, with a grand finale to determine who the true champion is.

[unkempt egret]

I know I did something on my own in mid 2023 where it was a dual run of Fire Red and Hoenn but after every gym battle both save files swapped their active parties with one another

could be neat with another cross-gen pair (D/P/Pt and HG/SS as well as X/Y and ORAS being two stands outs I can think of)

sadly can't do it in gens 8 or 9 unless you worked carefully with the dex limitations (you can in gen 5 but the effect is probably much less pronounced with B/W and B2/W2 than it is with the three remake pairs)

[coarse estuary]

that sounds neat but i more am wishing for like a thing where i have a friend either irl or online who i can play pokemon with in like a we both play through x region with the paired game (or 3rd version depending on game) and just hang out and play and such then after gyms we see how our teams have evolved and choices made affected them through battles after each gym/after beating the champ and i feel thats lost if you just play with yourself on 2 consoles as you can counter pick yourself vs like with a person you cant really counter pick the other unless they tell you what they got

[unkempt egret]

I can see that though I didn't fight myself in that case

the planning was more on that version gets what which uuuh

shoutouts to doing koga before the route 12-18 stretch so kanto had like no psychics from norman's fight since all of them partook in koga's fight rofl

[coarse estuary]

idk if you know what i mean but what i want is kinda what happened in the early parts of chuggaaconroys platinum lp where after each gym he beat till like gym 4 iirc he would battle a guest and we could see how his team was evolving since the last gym and how the teams of the guests were evolving

[frank lily]

Got this in the spotlight hour

[unkempt egret]

nice nice, I mostly skipped spotlight hour unless it's x2 stardust or something equivalent to it

[supple basalt]

I didn't know shiny Masquarain looked like it has melons for wings

[quasi dagger]

full odds shiny starly in legends arceus!

evolve it or leave it?

[dreamy bough]

I don't like saturated shinies

so leave it

oh nvm

staraptors shiny looks good

evolve it

[supple basalt]

After the entire game and postgame

I am finally a cheeto

[tropic hinge]

The best lycanroc, in my opinion.

[supple basalt]

Indeed

I am covering up my supposed-to-be-taller horse pal with my big foofy tail tho

And I'm bigger than a bear

[last egret]

PMD sprites were never to scale

[sweet crypt]

Based on its vengeful nature and usage of both venom and constriction, Arbok is likely based on the King Cobra

Hence, Arbok is not a cobra

King Cobras are reputed to be vengeful in myths (though this is not the case)

To the point that they imprint the image of their killer in their eyes for their partner to hunt down

While multiple species of venomous snake utilise constriction, I could not find anything suggesting any of the true cobras do, while the King Cobra does, albeit uncommonly

Since there is a species of snakes that live in deserts called false cobras, there is a chance that Silicobra is not based on an actual cobra either

This would mean that there is not a single cobra Pokemon yet

[visual saddle]

Anyone got a legit non-US copy of one of the Gen 4 games that they're willing to shoot me a Ditto on through the Classic Network?

Needs one for Masuda.

[supple basalt]

I know, it's just funny lol

(Also the Rapidash and Lycanroc were fanmade for a romhack)

[late edge]

anyone know a really good gen 3 romhack?

[graceful mirage]

Mariomon for emerald just came out and it's great

If you like mario

[late edge]

ehh not much

like a romhack that just makes pokemon cooler ig

[coarse estuary]

what do you eman by cooler

[vital flare]

Too many types

Also unbound

[hard plume]

pmd but to scale would be hilarious

[hard plume]

and pokemon evolved

it's just pokemon but they keep evolving

[supple basalt]

I might have to play this game a lot a few times to see what the facial expressions of all the pokemon look like

There are 502 pokemon

And you can even choose primal dialga lol

And it's not even finished

[supple basalt]

My life is struggle lol all these two have is leer and heal bell

But ykw butting into people is effective so all's right with the world

[cloud lark]

I think there's actually a dedicated site for artists to make as many Pokemon have PMD-style chat boxes as possible

[coarse estuary]

just beat grant in xy rebirth. his added dwebble made things a bit more tricky due to it stelth rocking

[unkempt egret]

as opposed to how dwebbles are usually annoying for me (rock blast high rolling)

[supple basalt]

Oh really? that's cool

[supple basalt]

That is one closed door

[vital flare]

witch pmd rom hack is this anyway?

[supple basalt]

Explorers of Alpha

[vital flare]

since when has that had so open starter/partner mons?

[supple basalt]

Idk I just started playing today. It gives you a large selection of different groups of starters, as well as the ability to type in the ID of the pokemon you want (Example: Suicune was 272)

[vital flare]

welp time to play it again

[supple basalt]

Make sure you have the updated one lol. It was last updated in March

[vital flare]

yeah noticed

[supple basalt]

Gonna restart lol Suicune is too big to have four team members in this game

For some reason

Oh wow Mew is too. Huh interesting

[vital flare]

Mew out of all pokemon??

[supple basalt]

Right? XD Both Suicune and Mew can be used in base game with three other team members so I assume it's to limit you

[vital flare]

Suicune i can understand but mews tiny

[supple basalt]

I mean I could just not use legendaries as my protagonist but that's no fun

[vital flare]

True

[supple basalt]

It's fun to have no attacking moves

[vital flare]

XD beats explotion at least

[supple basalt]

Truth

[vital flare]

And its pmd so theres the basic bonk

[supple basalt]

I literally only have Miracle Eye on the pokemon that can learn everything

And Leer on the Northwind dog. Legends have notoriously bad early movesets lol

Mew has cute icons

[vital flare]

Holy shiny mew

[supple basalt]

When starting a new game if you select Form 2 and enter in Mew's ID (151) then it's shiny

[vital flare]

That sadly doesnt work with eevee 😭

[supple basalt]

Yeah I saw that :( I tried to get shiny Umbrenos

No shiny Umbrenos for me :(

[vital flare]

I dont think any skytemple hacks have shiny eevee as a option

[supple basalt]

You can recruit Shiny Eevee and Shiny Umbreon in Explorers of Heaven and you can recruit a Shiny Sylveon in Explorers of Fortune

[vital flare]

As a starter option i mean

[supple basalt]

Ahh

Yeah sadly no :(

"Help I can't see floating footprints"

[vital flare]

Reasons dusknoir never made sense when he first came what footprints XD

[supple basalt]

Yeah that was always weird

Like he doesn't even have feet

[vital flare]

I love how as many there are story hacks and none change the dialoge on that i think

[supple basalt]

I think Hell does but. You have to tolerate the vulgar, offensive, and triggering subject jokes to even get to that point

[vital flare]

Yeahh no

[supple basalt]

But there are loads of Suicunes I guess

[vital flare]

Maybe the shinyness confuses because theres problaby no other shiny mews XD

[supple basalt]

Perhaps XD

(Suicune is shiny too)

Wait. Can I play as the Mew squad

This icon is so stinkin cute

Okay this makes me really want a dialogue change cause it would make sense for them to be thrown off by me being blue <3

[coarse estuary]

my xy rebirth team 3 badges in. 1 more manditory battle then i can get my mega khang

[supple basalt]

Ooo nice!

[vital flare]

What in mew is absols internal id in pmd (isnt 359 thats cacnea)

[lean ridge]

Somebody plays mariomom?

[mint anchor]

Does anyone play unite

[supple basalt]

So I found out Suicune by figuring out where the dex ends. The dex goes all the way up to Magcargo (219) without deterring from the national Pokedex order

Once it does start deterring, the pokemon are still in the same dex order so there is a way to know when you've gone too far

So move the number up in increments of 10 until the pokemon is past Absol's dex number. Once you see it pass that, then you know you can go backwards (Or maybe you'll get lucky and it'll land on Absol lol)

Pokemondb with the entire dex on the page

https://pokemondb.net/pokedex/national

[coarse estuary]

many people like myself and their entire discord has played mario mon

[supple basalt]

Can I just say something I noticed that I love? Even if these two couldn't be told apart by color, you can tell them apart just by how they're standing. The player-mew (Shiny one) in cutscenes is always using the "movement" poses and my pink pal is using the mew static poses

This is only in cutscenes but I love they do it.

[coarse estuary]

is mystery dungeon (not counting hacks) any fun? i tried to get into it but the only game of md ive ever had access to is gates to infinity and that is so ass

[supple basalt]

100%. The story is emotional, the characters are fun. Gates is a game I hear very little about which says a lot.

I actually think the only PMD game I see talked about less than Gates is DX (Which is a remake of the vastly superior R/B Rescue Team)

PMD Sky is the only pokemon game to ever make me tear up and Scarlet/Violet exists nowadays so that's impressive (RIP Arven buddy)

However

I would not recommend if you aren't a fan of "Dungeon crawlers"

[coarse estuary]

ive never played a game in the dungeon crawlers genre only ever played rpgs platformers idle games tower defence games and 1 visual novel game series

oh and puzzle games

[supple basalt]

Basically a dungeon crawler is a game that has you go through a series of dungeons as its main form of gameplay. The PMD Games are the only ones I can ever use as an example because games like FATE and Dark Cloud are not widely known lol

[coarse estuary]

yeah ive seen dungeon crawler games like boi and enter the gungeon but never played em

[supple basalt]

Valid

[coarse estuary]

are there any good completed mystery dungeon hacks youd recommend me to try out (prefer if they are playable on modded console but not a deal breaker if they arent)

[supple basalt]

Well every romhack requires you to patch a version of their respective game (In my case Explorers of Sky)

The one I'm currently playing is still being worked on. A good one that follows all the QOL features present in the later games but follows the base Sky story is Fortune

(A beautiful ss from sky with no context)

[coarse estuary]

i might have to give it a try. i try to avoid incompleted hacks/fan games but if i can play vanguard multiple times and its not completed i think i can try fortune

[supple basalt]

Explorers of Alpha is the one I'm currently playing. Where you can enter the ID of a pokemon as your starter if you know it lol

It is worth a shot and it is actively being worked on as its last update was a month ago

[coarse estuary]

and i can enter the id of any pokemon or is it one of those where it only goes up to x gen so i can only pick from the gen it caps at

[supple basalt]

Something looks wrong with this picture

[supple basalt]

Any Pokemon that is in the game. There are only like 540-ish pokemon in the game currently (552 total pokemon to play as including alt forms and stuff)

So like you can play as Mew but you can't play as Victini sadly

[coarse estuary]

and i assume it comes with a list of all pokemon and their ids or is it trial and error

[supple basalt]

Hah I wish

Trial and error

[supple basalt]

[coarse estuary]

well then for my first playthrough ill just do rando trial and error with numbers to see what i get

[supple basalt]

Hah fair

If you wanna make it truly rando use anything after 219 (since that's the number it begins deterring from the dex)

[coarse estuary]

yeah i dont like kanto mons much anyways and some johto mons are meh so thx for that

[supple basalt]

Np

If you want to avoid spoilers

[coarse estuary]

oh and one last question any explorer of sky or a specific verison?

[supple basalt]

Unless it specifies it's usually just a clean version you need. Anything that has Xeno tacked onto it is a good way to go

[coarse estuary]

tried that and got an error

bro this is so stupid i cant even patch it

[supple basalt]

Download this

I tried to use the website and got an error too, I had to download this

[coarse estuary]

ok thx got it all patched and will transfer it to my dsi xl to play tonight

[supple basalt]

Hope ya have fun

Hope I can spell lol

[coarse estuary]

ok the random mons i got was alola tails for me and cherim as my partner

[supple basalt]

Interesting combo

I like it lol

Also this is R U D E

In base Sky you could do all of these at the same time >:(

[hard plume]

.....batman!

(the joke: holy shiny mew, batman!)
(reference: old batman show from the 60s)

[coarse estuary]

well i had to switch it to my 2ds as it was bugging out and now my team is me as a yanmega and my partner is a shiny milotic

[supple basalt]

Much better team :0

I thought both my Mews had Synchronize/Magic Guard-

Mew with Prankster sounds downright cruel if that was in the actual games.

I wonder if the shinies get different abilities

[sweet crypt]

Magic Guard is EVIL on anything with good stats

Actually twisted

Prankster Encore/Toxic/Will-O/Twave/Haze/Taunt/Healing Move/Tailwind/Screens is also massive tbf

But like

It's Magic Guard

[supple basalt]

Life orb on magic guard mons

😂

[sweet crypt]

Every single Magic Guard user uses it over any of their other abilities

[supple basalt]

Wait does Mew actually get that

[sweet crypt]

And it competes with abilities like Tinted Lens, Unaware and Regenerator

[supple basalt]

It doesn't

Mew only gets synchronize lol

[sweet crypt]

If Mew got Magic Guard it probably wouldn't be RU

[supple basalt]

Contrary when it's on the right Pokémon

[sweet crypt]

As it turns out, ignoring any hazard not named Sticky Web, Poison (including Toxic/Poison Fang), Burn (As all the current Magic Guard users are Special and thus give 0 shits about Burn's Attack drop), any other damage over time effect (most notably Leech Seed and Salt Cure), Recoil (Including Life Orb recoil) and Crash Damage is extremely potent on both Defence and Offence

And it used to grant immunity to Full Paralysis too

Magic Guard is absolutely stacked

There are a few types of indirect damage it does not ignore, being confusion damage, Pain Split, Substitute, Clangorous Soul, Curse's side effect when you are a Ghost type, Belly Drum, Self KOing moves, Destiny Bond and Perish Song

Though out of these the only ones that seem relevant in Singles are Substitute, Confusion Damage and maybe Self KOing moves

[supple basalt]

IT DID?! Damn sad they didn't leave that in lol

[wooden venture]

Can someone explain this 🗿

[vital flare]

so many hours too late but typically you need a usa version to patch it

[jagged inlet]

I've been waiting so long for this!

[jagged inlet]

Geodude handprints

[brisk hedge]

I have 7 legendarys registered in my browser, what are you talking about

[unkempt egret]

snagged an airport shiny before my flight

[supple basalt]

Why is this Mew getting dragon dance

Naturally

[unkempt egret]

stats aren't great but rounds nice for GL at least (1495)

[wanton bone]

A fellow enjoyer of Shadows of Almia I see.

[supple basalt]

I wish I had a copy of that game for my 3DS.

[raven bison]

Damn I missed playing pokemmo, I should play it again later.

It's been years since I last played it.

[brisk hedge]

Oops, all S rank

[last egret]

UNPOPULAR OPINION
Hoenn > Johto

[raven bison]

What does it man & what did you do to get it S rank? You get all of them S rank from what I see, is it hard?. What does it do?. I never play any of pokemon ds game.

[terse spruce]

Just got this

[brisk hedge]

You get S rank by accomplishing certain objectives during the capture, such as not taking damage, capturing the Pokémon without taking your stylus off the screen, or capturing the Pokémon with low health. The ranks are just for bragging rights though

[raven bison]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-ohh-gif-13319726218162549947

[coarse estuary]

now that i know the docs lied to me i still have a gym badge to get before i can access mega kang

[vital flare]

Hi cheeto

[supple basalt]

Where I am in level compared to what I would be if I didn't have the exp curve of a, you know, legendary

This game came prepared tho. It knew people were gonna choose legends so. It made items that will maximize your stats in a single gulp lol

[vital flare]

Damn thats really high hp

[supple basalt]

Yeah the max HP in this game is 500 and there are about 2-3 items that can raise it. Life Seeds increase max HP by 4 and Sitrus Berries eaten when you're at full HP will give you +3 max HP

Additionally the gummis in this game can give you stat buffs when used at the fancy Cafe that opens up early-game

[vital flare]

I know what life seeds and sitrus berrys do XD

[supple basalt]

I'm on a rando and I got a floor of nothing but Sitrus berries lol

[vital flare]

Luckyy

Problaby should hop on my emulator and play alpha or some of the others i have

[supple basalt]

I love how the only roms unsorted are my mystery dungeon ones lol

I need to get BlazeBlack and VoltWhite again

[vital flare]

If you havent yet theres also blazeblack2 redux

[supple basalt]

Im bout to leave poor Bidoof behind and hope he doesn't use my reviver seeds lol

[supple basalt]

Yeah I haven't played that one at all and I need to

[vital flare]

Its really good has fairy typing too

[supple basalt]

Oooo

Should make sure I have copies of Black2/White2 that are compatible with the patches

[vital flare]

I think most rom hacks need a usa copy

Same how skytemple ones need usa sky

[supple basalt]

Idk which ones I have since I renamed them but I know they are USA

[vital flare]

Welp good luck

[supple basalt]

If it doesn't work I'm sure I can find another

HeartGold/SoulSilver worked with the Storm and Sacred patches and I think I downloaded them all from the same location

I should go grab the patches if I don't have them-

Oh hello BB and VW lol that's where I hid you

Randomizer:

[vital flare]

Damn

[supple basalt]

Get a lot more items lol

(Thank goodness they give you maximum bag space at the start)

Even with max bag space my life is struggle lol

Oh no my game froze

Kecleon shop freezes the game apparantly

I probably have to go back

So much lost progress...

Note to self

Don't go through a dungeon without saving first

[vital flare]

Isnt this a rule in general tho?

[supple basalt]

I mean yeah but lik

I lost two dungeons of progress cause of the kecleon shop messing my thing up XD I think it's probably because of the randomizer

So more of a note to self thing lol

[vital flare]

I wonder how many people checking chat here are like pmd has fangames XD

[supple basalt]

Fr lol

[vital flare]

Skytemple isnt as known than pokemon essensials thought

[supple basalt]

I actually had to step off of this then step back on to make sure I read this text right lol

[vital flare]

Thats a intresting move name

[supple basalt]

I might have to teach this to someone

It's no different from stuff like draining kiss but like

Soul Eater is one of my fav animes it'd be a crime against pokemanity not to use it

[vital flare]

Nice whats the typing?

[supple basalt]

Ghost

[vital flare]

Was about to guess ghost XD

Ok that might be op

[supple basalt]

I might see if Umbreon can learn it when I get back to the guild before I replace one of the Mew Moves

Like idk if I wanna get rid of these lol

Thunderbolt and Dazzling Gleam hit everything surrounding the user so like. THey ain't going anywhere

[vital flare]

I still love your a mew traveling with a mew

[supple basalt]

Lol same

Mew has some super cute expressions too

Like it's so cuteee

Damn I can't dump the egg in my storage for postgame plot reasons

Into the trash it goes

[vital flare]

Wait why not?

Also eggs since when?

Another alpha feture?

[supple basalt]

The wonder egg is part of a plotline where you and your partner find this poor person's egg and take it from the sea

It's cute and heartwarming

[vital flare]

I know about that but your in mt crag

[supple basalt]

Wonder Egg is also in base Sky. As well as the ability to get eggs as mission rewards (Kinda weird that people give their babies away as job rewards)

[supple basalt]

Randomizer put the egg in my dungeon lol

[vital flare]

Ohh

[vital flare]

Welp that eggs dehitrated

[supple basalt]

Yep XD

It was gonna die anyway. Mews are not bad parents they swear

[mighty robin]

I made it to tapu village

[supple basalt]

Noice!!

I should boot up my Ultra Moon

Citra stop asking me to go live smh

[mighty robin]

starting from the last time I played

I did the electric trial and then went all the way to tapu village

[supple basalt]

Ahh yeah Skull ain't there he just did-

How the hell do you check. I think I just did the water trial lol

Well

Quote unquote "water". Rando

I want to point out that a Team Skull Grunt had an Ultra Necrozma in his back pocket

Ehh later

[vital flare]

pets all of them

[supple basalt]

[vital flare]

stares confused

[mighty robin]

you hurt yourself in your confusion

[vital flare]

Ahh

I can bearly remember half of stuff i do

[umbral egret]

CHoose a number 1-9 or 1-18

[sturdy nimbus]

yall I caught a koopa

[vital flare]

Wierd coloured celebi

[supple basalt]

Wait how did you rando your starter choices it didn't give me that option

[vital flare]

If you choose the non id choice when it asks you and choose the last option it will give a random list of pokemon

[supple basalt]

Ohhh okay makes sense

[vital flare]

Some can be from the normal lists like cyndaquil and togepi

But still wierd looking celebi

[supple basalt]

Yeah there are like

3 Celebi

Normal Celebi

Evil Celebi (Seen in Pokemon 4Ever)

And Shiny Celebi

[vital flare]

Do you any chance know where shinx is? On the lists?

Shiny celebi aka explorers celebi XD

[supple basalt]

Vanilla

Mb that isn't Dark Celebi, that's just dead Celebi LOL

[vital flare]

May or may not have thought shiny celebi was a normal one at some point

[vital flare]

Ha no not on there i think

[supple basalt]

Shinx is one of the base Sky starters

For male

[vital flare]

Also none of them are named vanilia 😂

[supple basalt]

Lemme see if I can figure it out

https://projectpokemon.org/home/forums/topic/58480-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-explorers-of-alpha-303-last-update-3102025/

Expand the Starter dropdown

[vital flare]

Have you been choosing yourself and partners pokemon by ids?

[supple basalt]

I've only selected starters twice lol

Shinx is in Alpha mb

I guess Alpha is the vanilla starters lol

[vital flare]

Oh it is on alpha list 😂 honestly i only use that to make me eevee

[supple basalt]

I guess Alpha has all the Vanilla starters for Sky

Good to know

[vital flare]

That and alola vulpix

[supple basalt]

Yeah

(Bro Shinx regional variant when?)

Shinx deserves a regional variant

[vital flare]

At least alpha gave it dark typing XD

[supple basalt]

Oh did it? That's nice :0

I think Insurgence gave it dark too

[vital flare]

Luxeray at least

[supple basalt]

Did you know our guild's laughed at Bidoof has a cracked moveset

[vital flare]

Idk it shows typings when choosing from the lists

Meh

[supple basalt]

It's not cracked but what the fuck why is my boy out here using Rock Climb

When it has fantastic other choices

XD

[vital flare]

To climb mountains duh

[supple basalt]

Ig so XD

[vital flare]

Also crunch?

[supple basalt]

Still the dumbest HM move in any game except IF

[vital flare]

True

[supple basalt]

Crunch is a good physical dark move

80 base power in most games

[vital flare]

True but its bidoof

[supple basalt]

Bidoof is god /j

[vital flare]

Bidoofs meh

[supple basalt]

It makes a good HM slave

XD

Even BDSP uses it as a fucking HM slave lol

[vital flare]

Uses bibrael

Never understood hm slaves

[supple basalt]

HMs can't be easily forgotten so people had dedicated HM pokemon where that's their only purpose

Cause people don't want to sacrifice a moveslot for it

[vital flare]

Surf and fly = cool moves
Dig = cool early move
Rocksmash =ok early move
Rockclimb only reason to need one
Flash nope
Dive same cat with surf

Cut= would rather not but ok attack move

[supple basalt]

Dig's not an HM it's just a move that can be used outside battl

[vital flare]

Meh

[supple basalt]

Surf and Waterfall are good moves

Rock smash works early but you have to find the move deleter to get rid of it

[vital flare]

Hense ok move

Still a good early fighting move if you dont have something like mankey

[supple basalt]

Pretty sure you get the Brick Break tm early in most games that still have HMs

There's a reason Gamefreak decided to do away with HMs lol

[vital flare]

I dislike that decicion because surf and fly can be hard to find

[wispy osprey]

and it was one of the best decisions they ever made

[supple basalt]

TRUTH

[supple basalt]

Fly is hard to find yeah but by the time you find it, you'll probably already have Aerial Ace

Not the same power as Fly but it may just be me not wanting to use two turn moves lol

[wispy osprey]

and aerial ace ignores accuracy drops and evasion boosts to always hit

whereas fly is only 90% accurate

[supple basalt]

Wait Fly isn't 100%?

[wispy osprey]

it's well worth sacrificing 30 BP to gain access to a 100% accurate move that you can use every turn

[supple basalt]

(Shows how much I use it in battle)

[wispy osprey]

it might be 95 or 90 im not 100% sure

but i don't think it's 100

at least there are definitely some generations its not

it might have changed

[supple basalt]

Casually opens infinite fusion to hack fly onto a pokemon to see if that's true

[wispy osprey]

yeah i just checked bulbapedia in MSG it's currently 95%

accurate

[supple basalt]

Two turns for a move that might not hit

If it isn't 100% accurate it's 50% accurate

I love that I chose a pokemon that can actually learn Fly lol

That sucks tho

It could be worse tho
...It could be Bounce-

85% accuracy on this move and it's not even higher power than Fly

BS

[wispy osprey]

i mean sometimes moves are just worse and there's nothing you can do

[supple basalt]

That is true

[wispy osprey]

like Fly is just always worse than Acrobatics

[supple basalt]

Moves and Abilities

I feel like G9 added TWO abilities that work the exact same way, and they're just a watered down Magic Bounce

[wispy osprey]

even if you're holding an item acrobatics is 55 damage each turn, or 110 over two turns, 100% of the time

and fly is just 90 damage over two turns 95% of the time

and if you're not holding an item acrobatics is 110 damage per turn

[supple basalt]

Yeah Acrobatics is fantastic.

Pluck saves lives too

OMG I FOUND THE FABLED WONDER GUMMI

[vital flare]

Bestest gummi

[supple basalt]

Mew has the cutest custom icons

[supple basalt]

The very best like no Gummi ever was

[vital flare]

Genius idea a dungeon that spawns only gummis and poke

[supple basalt]

That would be super nice

You unlock the Marine Resort in Postgame and Manaphy is like IT'S SO FULL OF GUMMIS (I mean we raised him on Gummis I can't blame him) but it has like

5

[vital flare]

Fact i have never been past darkrai

Also can bearly survive the regi dungeon

[supple basalt]

There's not much past Darkrai. Manaphy comes back and like another dungeon or two unlocks and

That's it

[vital flare]

I think i have like seen those scenses once

[supple basalt]

Whenever I get to recruit manaphy I name him Goomi because like

It's like getting Solgaleo/Lunala (depending on the game) and not naming it Nebby. Just doesn't geel right

[vital flare]

Truee

[supple basalt]

ANGY

[vital flare]

Mew has fists?

[supple basalt]

It does now

And it's boutta throw them

At Skuntank

[vital flare]

Still a crime you cant battle him in vanillia

[supple basalt]

Wigglytuff let me kill him

[supple basalt]

Honestly? Agreed. It would have been fun

And difficult cause Skuntank has a lot of high power moves

[vital flare]

steals all peefect apples and pickpockets them into skuntanks invetory

[supple basalt]

Wigglytuff: Murders them

He must have his perfect apples

[vital flare]

including a half eaten one as evidence

[supple basalt]

Can I just say that

I wish Wigglytuff's special episode had more perfect apple lore in it

J/s

[vital flare]

Theres a fan pmd where you can play as igglypuff

[supple basalt]

There's also a special episode in all Sky titles

[vital flare]

Cant remember if its playable

I know

[supple basalt]

If I wasn't too scared to use baby pokemon I would play as Igglybuff in this game lol

Rose is disappointed we couldn't kill Team Skull

[vital flare]

Mad guildmaster beat them offpanel too

[supple basalt]

Same =_=

[vital flare]

One of the few disapointments in explorers

[supple basalt]

Like any game it isn't perfect. There were a lot of things that were done off screen or left for you to assume the result

One of the MANY things Sky got right was giving us special episodes, answering our questions from Time/Darkness. But it kept a lot of the old issues with leaving things up to assumption

[vital flare]

True

Ever played explorers of spirit?

You can beat skull badly in it

[supple basalt]

I haven't but it's on the list

It is on the bucket list :>

[vital flare]

Personal minus no post game

[supple basalt]

Wait no postgame? Why?

Sky has my favorite postgame

[vital flare]

I guess the plot ends in a way there cant be post game?

[supple basalt]

Ahh everyone dies

Gotcha :P

How the hell do you unlock evolution with no postgame lol

[vital flare]

You cant evolve simple

[supple basalt]

Big ad

*sad

[vital flare]

Idk havent actually finished it

But its a completed story hack at least

[supple basalt]

Spose

[vital flare]

At least beating skulls to a pulp is enjoyable

[supple basalt]

I have a question

About Alpha

For certain actions, it asks for a password

Do you know where we would retrieve that password

[vital flare]

Uhh honestly you have played that more than me?

So no idea

[supple basalt]

Sad

Aww I've never gotten their tails together before it's cute

[supple basalt]

I LOVE DUSKNOIR IS SHINY

New lore. All shiny pokemon were once human. It's just only Crystal who remembers it (I know Dusknoir isn't actually human but he's shiny like me and all shiny pokemon are now human)

[shell jasper]

Okay so... friend of mine found a Super Mario Pokemon game. Which of these do you guys think is better?

[supple basalt]

Hmmm

Based on looks alone I love the right one, but the left one has better typing and looks goofy and I love it

[boreal storm]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSrbwXFFe/

Sorry guys idk how to make the vid watchable on discord

[sweet crypt]

Because it's a mixed attacker

Also, I've heard action Speed boosting moves in PMD are cracked

You can do stuff like attack 2 times in a row apparently

I haven't used action Speed boosting moves myself yet though so uhhh

[sweet crypt]

It does have a paralysis chance though

Fly is probably better than Aerial Ace in a playthrough

You do less damage per turn but it's not like you're getting punished for it

You can't get damaged while using Fly unless your opponent has one of a few specific moves

That said, Fly is definitely worse than Acrobatics in a playthrough

Since you really do NOT need held items in a playthrough

And it's worse than it in Competitive too

If you use a 2 turn move in Competitive you're asking for your opponent to switch in a resist and potentially set up in your face

Can't wait to give Kingambit free turns

[supple basalt]

Oh trust me I know. I meant why is it learning dragon dance without a TM. I've levelled Mew before it doesn't get it naturally

Uhhh

[sweet crypt]

In general, PMD changes up level up movepools at times

At least, that's what it feels like to me

[supple basalt]

Sometimes they do yeah and it is a fangame

Where Mew has Magic Guard and Prankster

[sweet crypt]

Magic Guard is still so bonkers to me

[supple basalt]

It is lol

Oh I see what made me so "massive"

Shiny pokemon are bigger than their non-shiny counterparts

[shell jasper]

Hm... do you think it's better to train Yoshi to level 50 and get a normal/dragon type or evolve it with a shell (stone) to one of these: fire type, flying type, or ground type

[supple basalt]

Depends what typing you need the most

[shell jasper]

This is my team right now... I'm replacing the ant for something depending on the typing I go with for Yoshi... I do have something in my PC that'll become a fire/ground type when it evolves.

Inkling's going to be Water/Poison when it evolves.

[supple basalt]

Fire/Ground is an interesting type to deal with without abilities like drought to back ya up

So no matter what repeat types. Flying has a ton of weaknesses to pure flying isn't the best thing ever. You could go ground to help back up your steel type

[shell jasper]

If I put the fire/ground type on my team Yoshi will probably be evolved into the dragon type if only to have something new type wise.... even though I'd be kinda sad to turn the cute Yoshi into Yoob. I can always breed later for dex completion. I can show you everything I have right now if you want.

[supple basalt]

Sure. I don't really play mario but I like most of the character designs

[shell jasper]

The Dino-Torch is what's gonna be fire/ground... these are the ones that don't have a type overlap with the ones I'm currently using. Normal types are only being shown cause Yoshi might not stay the normal type.

Those are all the ones without an overlap.

[supple basalt]

Awww cutiesss

Is your name Ashley

Do you have my name

[shell jasper]

Erica is actually my name.

[supple basalt]

Ahh okie :> Not a fellow Ashley but I do like your name

[shell jasper]

Ashley is a character in the game.

[supple basalt]

Also I was serious when I said those guys are cute af

I think Lava, Mini, and Bow are my favs in terms of design lol

[shell jasper]

If I stick Mini on my team, Yoshi is gonna become Yoob... that's what Yoob looks like in the actual game it's from.

[supple basalt]

Yoshi really stopped workin' out

[shell jasper]

Yoob is a mutated yoshi XD

[supple basalt]

Pfft that's great

[shell jasper]

So if I put Mini on my team I'll be going with Yoshi becoming a dragon type.

[supple basalt]

It would be a crime if Yoshi didn't become dragon

He looks like a baby dragon

[shell jasper]

hahaha alright.... I wish it didn't have to become Yoob to become a dragon though.

[supple basalt]

Yeah and it's not a fangame you can't just... replace the sprite

[shell jasper]

It's a fangame actually... this Mario pokemon game is a hack of Pokemon Emerald.

[supple basalt]

Oh!

Go to the graphics folder and locate the Yoob sprite. You can replace it with the sprites used for Yoshi

[shell jasper]

It doesn't have them. All it downloaded was the gba file.

[supple basalt]

So it's a rom not a full fangame like IF?

[shell jasper]

Yeah... you can either patch the emerald rom yourself or download the rom already patched.

[supple basalt]

Okay okay so yeah

Original point stands you sadly can't replace the sprite :(

[shell jasper]

yeah.. sadly.... oh well... giant purple mutated yoshi

[supple basalt]

I think I deleted SacredGold lol oops

[shell jasper]

oops

[supple basalt]

I can get it again. I really only wanna play StormSilver anyway

(Though I'm currently patching Victini's event into BlazeBlack lol)

[coarse estuary]

yall should be testers for my rom hack im making once im done

[supple basalt]

Ahh yes guys. The good ol' days where even friendly rivals give zero shits if your team is half dead. They'll battle you without healing you first XD

What kinda bullshit is getting a crit on a damn fakeout

Damn good thing this shit isn't a nuzlocke. Thanks Bianca =_=

I was so confused why things are giving me so many issues before I remembered this is a ROMHack that makes the battles more difficult lol

[covert valley]

Anyone know of a pokemon games with follower pokemon and character customization? I'm looking for what to play after I beat infinite fusion.

[supple basalt]

Pokemon Insurgence

Ignore my lack of clothing items

[covert valley]

Ok ill add it to my list. Thank you.

[supple basalt]

Np

Omg why are all my physical attackers special ones. Poochyena is Timid and Meowth is Modest like WHAT THE HECK

I mean Oshawott is Adamant so that's good and Purrloin/Lillipup are both Hardy (neutral)

But like. The timid and modest on the wrong pokemon is gonna irritate me lol

Oh and Pidgey who's got a calm nature (-atk +sp def)

I might go replace it with a Spearow

[sweet crypt]

Unfortunate doesn't begin to describe this

[supple basalt]

Lol

Poochyena is a rare encounter I just GOT randomly too so it's gonna be hell to find again =_=

Okay I now have a hardy dog. Not what I want but I'd rather neutral than -sp atk

[orchid barn]

Finally got a pull worth something! And from a free pack too! Lucky me

[shell jasper]

Thought you might like to see what Mini evolved into

[sonic sky]

please tell me where do i go after the first grand trial

ik its route 4

idk where it is

i have this pathetic excuses of pokemon to win this game

[supple basalt]

Click on the map

There's a flag at your next destination

After beating Hala your next place to go is the next island btw which you go to the beach to Mantine Surf there. Which a Crabrawler made you visit. You get to the beach off route 2

Route 4 is on Akala island

[brisk hedge]

?tag reading

[ebon pond]

You should try to read NPC dialogue! They give very good hints on how to continue the game. Sometimes they also give you items! Don't forget to talk to NPC's and read what they say.

[warm rose]

WOW

[warm rose]

yea it was secret

also i kinda messed up
i accidentally changed my pheromosas nature from the one i had to a neutral one

which means beast boost now boosts speed instead of attack (rip)

swept erika with bug buzz 🔥

[warm rose]

what

ah

[supple basalt]

Lol

Brittney here is getting all her shit stolen by a 15 year old (I think I'm canonically 10 but I've decided Skull is 15 lol)

But if I was 10. Then. She and everyone else is getting their shit stolen by a 10 year old lol

I've already taken her Carbink and Alolan Geodude

Shaymin is next >:)

[vital flare]

I love mias a boy XD

[supple basalt]

Same XD I have so many males with female names and vice versa because aside from my starter, I name them after the trainer I stole them from

XD

[vital flare]

Ahh

[supple basalt]

With number of pokemon amped up to 6 for npc trainers I tend to end up with 6 pokemon of the same name :P

So far away from filling the dex on nothing but stolen mons

[coarse estuary]

did some more chipping away at my rom hack im making. its really slow but its comming together well so far

[sonic sky]

professor oak got tan

[vital flare]

Its his cousin

[warm rose]

you named yourself gorgonzola????? lol

[deft bobcat]

So... about a couple years ago, I tried to do the ChaoticMeatball Franchise Nuzlocke but as a playthrough. I reached Pokemon Black and was burnt out and stopped. But, I decided to restart.

Many teams felt off because I simply went with my brain. When in truth? The best teams I had were with my gut reaction. And this first team of Take 2? Proves that going with the flow is the best way of success for this challenge.

Pokémon Red completed. This was the team-
https://pokepast.es/c0af1c72ad294f17

I honestly loved all my team. Venusaur, Pidgeot, Wigglytuff, Mr. Mime, Machamp and Nidoking was a fun squad. No mon felt pointless and each one was fun to use.

If I had to pick a favourite for this run? Machamp.

Mostly because with his name Bulldozer and the fact he tended to one shot a lot of Pokemon... I was constantly going "MAKE WAY... FOR THE DOZER!!!" every time I used him.

[median hornet]

My team in SuperMarioMon

(sorry for the spoil)

[coarse estuary]

ok got all trainers and wild encounters for the routes up to dreamyard done. will continue tomorrow with route 2

[thin plover]

@subtle vale if u are outside a lot consider playing pokemon go

[subtle vale]

I used to play it

[thin plover]

or if you want to collect cards and battle with them play pokemon pocket

[subtle vale]

I just didn't really like it for some reason

[wispy osprey]

i've always been interested in pokemon but like you i sorta only started actually playing the games recently

[vital flare]

I love how these look

[wispy osprey]

was it because the company sucked and craved money? because that's why i stopped lmao

[thin plover]

i bought a auto catcher for it and i dont rlly play it unles im out doing stuff

[subtle vale]

Yeah, I'm just looking for more traditional games, I found pokerogue not to long ago

[wispy osprey]

how did you play firered? just wondering

[subtle vale]

Yeah, it was very buggy for me as well

[subtle vale]

I only played a little, I got a modded switch and just dumped my old game

Well it was a friend's game

[thin plover]

if you got a 3ds you can have someone mod it for you

[subtle vale]

But he gave it to me

[subtle vale]

I already got mine modded

[thin plover]

ok

[wispy osprey]

legends arceus is a great game from what i hear, just it's probably not the best game for an initial experience

[subtle vale]

And I have like 100gb space left

[thin plover]

there is a bunch of pokemon games on there

like sun and moon

[subtle vale]

Yeah, a little difficult and I'm still learning the types

[thin plover]

or X and Y

[subtle vale]

Is that a good first game to play?

[wispy osprey]

because it's not entirely consistent with the mechanics of the main series and has a lot of lore connections that you'll miss out on if you haven't played other games

i would recommend XY as your first game if you want to get started on the 3ds

[subtle vale]

Yeah, I'm very confused

[thin plover]

its pretty cool

[subtle vale]

I know agile and strong style is new

[subtle vale]

Oh okay

[wispy osprey]

definitely the game that is the most consistent with the pokemon main game formula

[thin plover]

but you want to play ultra sun and moon to do more

[subtle vale]

I'll try those

[thin plover]

regular sun and moon is like a demo

[subtle vale]

I'm just so confused of how types and weaknesses work

[wispy osprey]

the 3ds games are all great in their own way, but XY is the most "standard" of the games

[subtle vale]

Oh

[subtle vale]

Okay

[wispy osprey]

you'll pick it up, really the only way to learn it is to keep playing

[thin plover]

to be honest ive been into pokemon for basically my whole life and i still dont know weaknesses

[subtle vale]

Yeah, I got the basic types down, like water strong against fire

[thin plover]

and electric beats water

[subtle vale]

Oh lol, when I was younger I liked the anime

But never got into the games

[thin plover]

and i think dark beats poison

[vital flare]

Typings can be hard

[subtle vale]

Oh

[subtle vale]

Very

[vital flare]

Even worse with some dualtyping

[subtle vale]

And I got like some gen 1 names down

[vital flare]

Nope

[subtle vale]

But I cant really identify pokemon well

[thin plover]

but infinte fusion would be the last game to play cause you need to know what types go good together

[subtle vale]

Oh

[vital flare]

Dark beats ghost and psycic

[thin plover]

ok

[subtle vale]

I just have a modded switch and it was cool cause I can connect to to my pc and play

[thin plover]

im trying to think back to pokemon pocket

[subtle vale]

I'll start off with something like pokemon ultra sun or x and y

[wispy osprey]

the pokemon games on 3ds:
XY - pretty standard pokemon games with gyms, a villainous team, and an elite four and champion

ORAS (omega ruby alpha sapphire): remakes, not original, so can be less fun if you haven't played the original

SM (sun moon): has a lot of the elements of a classic game but has a different system of progression (no gyms)

USUM (ultra sun ultra moon): basically just SM but with more stuff and generally regarded as better

[wispy osprey]

i'd say do XY and then USUM

[thin plover]

oh ya arceus

[subtle vale]

Alr, I'll download it sometime tmr, it's currently dead

[thin plover]

i bought it but couldnt get passed the wisp quest

so i just sold it

[subtle vale]

The fire thingy?

[thin plover]

i literally only got 2 stars

[subtle vale]

I'm at my second star ;-;

[vital flare]

Eh?

[subtle vale]

The thing I'm struggling with most is understanding the mechanics lol. There is so much stuff

[thin plover]

i couldnt figure out the stupid quest so i gave up

[subtle vale]

Oh lol.

[thin plover]

i didnt even finish pokemon sword

[subtle vale]

I mean, I gave up totk half way through ;-;

[vital flare]

The wisp was literarly in front of you over the water

[subtle vale]

Is it a good game?

[wispy osprey]

yeah, and that's why normally i'd recommend one of the DS games as someone's first (probably HGSS), but XY is the simplest of the 3ds games, so that's where i'd start

[thin plover]

im at the dragon type gym and hes just to strong'

[subtle vale]

Oh okay, thanks

[thin plover]

its like the last gym

[subtle vale]

Thanks everyone for helping me lol, I've been so confused

[subtle vale]

Oh

[wispy osprey]

oh raihan? yeah i hear he's really tough

[thin plover]

i wouldnt play sword and shield

[subtle vale]

Really?

[thin plover]

i guit that game too

its been like 3 years since i touched it