other-pokemon-games

[proven geyser]

i had to get my usum des before gts was officially cut off!

i have a box dedicated to wonder trade fails(genned event mons)

[proven geyser]

it's a little thing but since you can purchase pokeballs(and have enough to technically purchase 22 if bought in 10s) and are fully capable of catching things prior to the tutorial, i wish your tutorial rival would comment on how you already have Pokemon beforehand

and it wouldve given you the option to see it(implying you're both just helping shauna) or skip it entirely

i think i heard SV forcing you to catch a lechonk for the tutorial, hopefully gen10 gives the skip condition

[true torrent]

I just need someone I can do trade evos with

[proven geyser]

if you're using any of the DS games then im sorry for your loss

[true torrent]

Switch

I’m trying to get melloetta

[proven geyser]

if i had SV id be going nuts tbh

[true torrent]

Ok

[unkempt egret]

I can confirm you aren't required to catch it

from what I recall its more like the tutorial in gens 4/5 where an AI just does a script

you are basically required to catch a diglett though if you didn't pick sprig

since the gatekeeper to the first city has what basically knows discharge and nothing else

[proven geyser]

ahh, id heard the speedrun involves using the lechonk to quick fail the nemona fights, so i might've gotten the idea the pig was required for the tutorial

[coarse kestrel]

For the sake of spreading the word The typhlosion allegations are false here is proof https://x.com/Roltas01/status/1846294083909615855?t=mC_0kxX2QSyY9-BdzH8zjQ&s=19

Roltas (@Roltas01) on X

Debido a toda la desinformación que se está difundiendo a raíz de los leaks de Pokémon, me veo en la necesidad de aclarar unas cosas antes de que sea demasiado tarde

En este hilo voy a explicar la verdadera historia del relato de Typhlosion y su supuesta autora, Yuu Nakatsui 👇

Twitter · Oct 15, 2024, 8:56 PM

[proven geyser]

saying there's allegations against something that doesn't exist is so fucking funny to me

[coarse kestrel]

Only way to get potential idiots to listen

[proven geyser]

the wording used to describe the post makes it seem that way lmfao

nice to know its intentional

[coarse kestrel]

As stated, only way to get some people to actually look at the post

[proud igloo]

Unfortunately not everyone has Twitter.

[crimson glade]

I would love to look at the thread, but it requires a Twitter account to read it.
All I can see is someone saying that they'll explain things "below"

I already hear way too much news about Muskrats opinions, I don't need an unmutable thread of his thoughts sent to me.

[proud igloo]

Besides I was never in the camp that Typhlosion was a child player, which is the most family friendly way I could put this.

Folklore always has stories like that

[untold hill]

personally, I just like the dude with explosive flames who can use thunder punch and flamethrower

[shell oak]

Magmortar?

[untold hill]

magmortar has a canon

[shell oak]

Even cooler

[proud igloo]

And besides Typhlosion was based off a shapeshifting badger youkai and again if you know your mythology, you know stories where youkai and shapeshifters like to get together with humans are very common.

[untold hill]

I learnt that from a vid talking about leak lol

I was like "badger??"

[proud igloo]

Personally I feel those stories exist in cultures were arranged marriage is a thing (and it is in Japan) as a way to get the people to accept whoever their husbands/wives are as they may seem monstrous but have good traits.

[proven geyser]

it starts as hedgehog or something, then becomes more like a honey badger

[untold hill]

anything is possible in japan

[unkempt egret]

I think that's just because it's the most convenient one to get since the game puts you into that tutorial anyway so may as well

[proud igloo]

It’s also why Typhlosion is a) a starter in PLA and b) got a Ghost typed Regional form

[unkempt egret]

but yea mostly used to skip the non-required fights and get into Ryme's gym

[proud igloo]

Personally I find the whole screaming about Typhlosion allegations hilarious because I have a grimdark Pokémon Mystery Dungeon world I’ve worked on for at least a decade now and while a few evil Pokémon are interested in humans, the Typhlosion is not one of them.

[unkempt egret]

I think the silliest non-required fight is probably lusamine 1 in SM?

if you don't wanna deal with Hell Lilligant (diet) then throw a magikarp out I guess rofl

[proud igloo]

I had a Oricoro during that fight.

[unkempt egret]

...also I just realized this run has two crobats I shouldn't need to worry about Hell Lilligant this time

[proud igloo]

Dancer basically neutralised Lilligant.

[unkempt egret]

makes sense

[proud igloo]

Anyway early versions of HG/SS revealed the gyms were actually different in each city to correspond to the type of the gym.
It’s not much but the colours are different and there’s a type symbol where the Pokeball would be.

[unkempt egret]

I was gonna say like how the gym itself physically looked

kinda like how gen 8 later did it to an extent

[fringe flower]

Shiny meloetta distribution

[unkempt egret]

👀

[fringe flower]

from what I said in another channel:
It turns out that you need to transfer all of the Pokémon that are in a regional dex in order for the pokedexes to be marked as completed (because I have a ton of empty slots for non-paldean Pokémon like jigglypuff)

[shell oak]

This is the first of multiple special Pokemon distributions for completed game pokedexes. Do you think galar will get one? If so, do you think it’ll be shiny keldeo or shiny gmax melmetal?

[proven geyser]

i know the interesting thing would be to use azumarill bc it's been newly christened a fairy type in XY, but the fact i can get regenerator slowpoke from hoards is. enticing

if i get an intimidate mon i can immediately check all five, because both normal abilities are immune

[ruby marlin]

||Just learned that spheal was supposed to be a ballign ball seal that prey on a balling ball chicken awesome||

[fringe flower]

The next ones are likely mythicals that can be transferred to SV, so keldeo might be next

Or maybe hoopa

[proud igloo]

||Yeah I believe they were meant to be version exclusives personally.||

[ruby marlin]

one doesn't stop the author

like seviper and zangoose kinda thig

[proud igloo]

Or have it so one has an increased spawn rate over the other depending on the version.

Like Plusle and Minun. Or Illumise and Volbeat.

Because I feel those two were gonna be another pair.

[proper iris]

Bro even the centro leaks translation which was on day 1 of leaks already had a way more "beauty and the beast" feel than anything and didn't imply what people were saying it implied. But I'm glad someone is out there spelling it out.

[simple quartz]

You don't even really have to proof that its fake like

It's a Greek myth-like story

They're well known for being super out there

[proper iris]

Not greek, but still

Your point still stands

Also here.
https://youtu.be/lxBWLcmOOHQ?si=qLlwvEKIavDK8MuM

Bc typhs and their fans may need this rn.

[simple quartz]

Well it's not literally Greek but the whole vibe/energy is based on mythological stories essentially

Unfortunately they just have to write this without the knowledge (yet) that this fanbase is both illiterate and overly childish for a fanbase that demands "better/mature" stories

[unkempt egret]

I mean ||from what I've seen of the rapidash one it gives me "stealing fire from the gods" vibes but like a bit more fantastical?||

[proper iris]

I mean. It was never meant to be for our eyes

The rapidash one feels more like ||a case of "try to flex what you got by acting immoraly, get what's coming for you"||

||Less about taking fire from the gods and more about not being merciful and therefore not having mercy given to you||

Read all of those tales and honestly, they're nowhere near as bad as people make them out to be. Except maybe the slakoth one, but it's still in line with other mythological cautionary tales

[shell oak]

Keldeo can’t be moved to sv, but given that it was the gen 5 mythical cameo of galar (as to meloetta being the gen 5 mythical cameo of Paldea) I think it has a fair chance. In the other side of it though, melmetal is the only gmax that cannot eat max soup, meaning even if you can get a shiny you can’t get the shiny gmax. Plus, given that its gmax was already relegated to a home mystery gift, it seems fitting

The one argument you can make against melmetal is that the Go devs would complain, wanting to release the gmax themselves

[unkempt egret]

I mean they did announce GMax recently

[shell oak]

But given their raid system, hunting gmax shiny melmetal would be an abhorrent experience that borders on torture

[unkempt egret]

with kanto starters and not galar mons so none of us care lol

[fringe flower]

Keldeo is actually in SV

You can transfer one there

[unkempt egret]

niantic doing the jimmy neutron bit like "this is... KANTO!"
"niantic you've showed us kanto six events in a row now can you show us something new"

[shell oak]

Huh, meloetta wasn’t in galar

I figured they were mutually exclusive

[shell oak]

But now with
“Throw your old team in the garbage and build up a new team that is literally just the old one but now with a special tag attached that is harder to obtain “

[unkempt egret]

"also hope you have elite TMs"

[shell oak]

“Just so you can take part in our in person raids we recommend defeating with 40 people”

[unkempt egret]

"not gonna bother thanks niantic"

[naive timber]

i wish galar had elite 4

well it bascially had elite 8 💀

[unkempt egret]

assuming optimal conditions out of its playerbase

[shell oak]

“Which will outclass everything you just built anyway”

[naive timber]

pokemon sword and shield is the easiest game to completer

there is so much glitches u can do

[shell oak]

Leon can be pretty difficult if you don’t overlevel

I lot to him multiple times despite bringing an urshifu on my 2nd playthrough

[sweet crypt]

Buzzwole and Great Tusk's stats are so similar

They're both from a group whose members mostly have 570 BST

Have nearly the exact same stat spread

Literally the same SpA and SpD

Both only have odd numbers for stats, though one also follows a prime number rule the other doesn't

Both are Fighting types

[shell oak]

But does tusk get leech life? I think not, let’s go gamers buzzwole sweep

[sweet crypt]

Both mons can also sweep with Bulk Up that's another funny point

They also can both be ran defensively instead

They're very similar Pokemon

Apart from the fact that one is a buff mosquito and one is basically just spiky donphan

[shell oak]

I love buzzwole. Tusk is nice, but buzzwole is funny

[sweet crypt]

I prefer Buzzwole over Tusk but both are good

[shell oak]

A funny Pokémon is always the better Pokemon

“Flutter mane is on track to win worlds yet again”
But Blacephalon is funnier.

I will die on the hill that Blacephalon is the best shiny

[sweet crypt]

God I hate Flutter Mane people keep saying it's a good design and very creative when it's the least popular Paradox and askdjflwhdlh and why is it GHOST/FAIRY with THOSE INSANE ASS STATS AAAAAA

clears throat

Anyways, I far prefer Blacephalon

[shell oak]

Gholdengo is also way funnier

[unkempt egret]

as much as I hate thwakey

[sweet crypt]

Flutter Mane being Ghost/Fairy also rubs salt in the wound that the ghost moon bat isn't

Especially when said bat is tied for your favourite Pokemon

Every non signature moon move is Fairy type

[unkempt egret]

GF loves their psychic legendaries

[sweet crypt]

I dont understand

Why does Lunala have to get the fraud type instead

[unkempt egret]

I think it's one of the three most common legendary types alongside dragon and flying

though flying has multiple trios rofl

[sweet crypt]

I think it's Number 1

Yeah no it is

[proper iris]

That's exactly why dudunsparce is great

[proven geyser]

i still dont know what moron is telling you flutter is even remotely creative, legend

i have heard that people think it's pretty

and that the funni ghost is busted, bc it is, but not creative

it's not an awful design tho, dont get wrong

uninspired a bit compared to sandy shocks, sure

but not the worst design gamefreak has decided on

i feel like ur just really really incensed abt flutter for no reason

[proud igloo]

People saying that Typhlosion and Slaking are child players will have an aneurysm when they find out what Zeus does every 5 seconds.

If anything this whole thing shows how mythological illiterate a lot of people are.

You really need to read between the lines and remember folktales serve one or two purposes. Either to explain a natural phenomenon that we didn’t know at the time like earthquakes, seasons or eclipses since humans hate not knowing why something happens.

Heck this is the exact reason conspiracy theories exist, our minds cannot accept a simple answer and we need to have a justification for everything.

The second is to teach morals and how to behave in society. Most of these stories were brutal because society back then was brutal. It’s only been quite recent lives have gotten cushy. Most of human history that was not the case.

[unkempt egret]

I mean they've given reasons but it's kinda like the same reasons why I don't like glaceon except replace "comp bias" with "anime bias"

moments when I regret not replying to a post since I assume it'll go right under lol

also yea we really did sanitize our folklore at some point in the past 50-100 years

[proud igloo]

I blame Disney

[unkempt egret]

since that's a thing with all cultures not just japan

if anything christanity's almost leant into more of a horror angle than its contemporaries if I'm remembering right

or at least much more "do this or else "

[proud igloo]

It’s why when Gen 6 announced Fairy types I wanted Fae Folk like Pokemon that will trap you for a 1,000 years because you stepped on a flower and not the Tinkerbells that children believed in.

[unkempt egret]

I mean we did get that

[proud igloo]

Granted we did get that but not initially.

[unkempt egret]

it just wasn't a fairy type

because GF loves giving lore like that to ghost types specifically

[proud igloo]

Because Fae or Faerie was just a generic term for magical creatures. And a lot of them were not nice by any means.

At best they were mischievous and at worst you had some purely nightmarish fates if you crossed them.

[unkempt egret]

actually now that I think about it florges did kinda get entries in that ballpark in gen 9

but yea old mythology was that anything not human was a mischievous prankster at best and something that could erase humanity at any point it wants but chooses not to for reasons we can't grasp at worst

[proud igloo]

I think it wasn’t until Gen 8, ironic as that is when you had some of the best examples of Fae folk in Celtic and Gaelic folklore you had what I call actual Faeries.

Grimsnarl and Hatterene embodied this big time

Actually I wonder if we get folktales post Gen 4 for Fairy Pokemon.

All I say is if Gen 10 is based off Greece and we don’t have nasty Legendaries then research was failed somewhere.

[proven geyser]

real

[proud igloo]

Because Greek Gods barring a few exceptions were complete dicks.

And this isn’t even a modern interpretation, the Ancient Greeks acknowledged their Gods were cruel.

As such if you are gonna do a Greek region right, you are probably gonna have to go with callous and cruel legendary Pokemon that were sealed away for a reason ala Treasures of Ruin

[unkempt egret]

either way my thought is that no matter how you rant you're not gonna stop the tide of public opinion

if it's uninformed then it'll stay uninformed and ignore anything to the contrary until it loses interest and latches onto something else

[proud igloo]

That’s unfortunately true. As such Typhlosion will forever be associated with the likes of Hypno and Vaporeon.

[untold hill]

I hate Hypno

mfs nose is so ew

[proven geyser]

vaporeon didnt even do anything its not his fault

[proud igloo]

I don’t mind Hypno

[unkempt egret]

ok real talk about hypno

[proud igloo]

Used one in a Nuzlocke

It’s actually a okay Psychic type.

[unkempt egret]

has anyone seen it and jolteon in the same room together? (joke)

[untold hill]

I love vaporeon becuase I like blue I want those goddamn camouflage abilities

[unkempt egret]

(I don't mind hypno tho, is a good bulky psychic)

[proud igloo]

Yeah it was just 4Chan doing 4Chan things

[unkempt egret]

their specter of influence still sometimes looms over the internet even after their mentality fell by the wayside

[proud igloo]

Yep, as most Gen 1 psychics tend to be squishy

Granted Hypno isn’t the best at defence but it can take a hit unlike the others

[unkempt egret]

yea or at least baseline bulk like with starmie and exeggutor

[proud igloo]

More then Alakazam who dies if you sneeze on it

[untold hill]

that's what happens when too much ice cream

[proud igloo]

Unfortunately Vaporeon is overshadowed by the fact Gen 1 has a lot of great Water types

It’s bulky yes

But so is Umbreon and Lapras and Slowbro

[untold hill]

umbreon is a water type?

[proud igloo]

Sorry I meant it’s a better bulkier eeveelution

[untold hill]

oh

my fav is jolteon tbh

[proud igloo]

Because yes Vaporeon has health but defence wise Umbreon is better

[proper iris]

Also the thing was mistranslated. Ages were not mentioned, and "girl" in there can be interpreted as "young woman"

It is not specified as "child" unlike what people say

Also the typh story is just sad.

[proud igloo]

Still my point stands. People don’t understand mythology and misinformation become the norm,

[untold hill]

what happened to people when some dude married a pokemon

[proper iris]

||Poor lady fell in love with her typh hubby, had a kid, then husband was killed and she and the kid were so mistreated by the village they ran off to the woods to go back to living as typhlosions||

[unkempt egret]

late but vappy also didn't get regenerator when it really became all the rage with singles players

[proper iris]

It's just a tale about humans being more monstrous than monsters

[proud igloo]

We are the real Pocket Monsters

[untold hill]

nah, nobody ain't catching me

[unkempt egret]

for information: vappy is 130-
/60/95, umbreon is 95/110/130

[untold hill]

I am the one doing the catching

[unkempt egret]

and that is why you are the real monster

[untold hill]

well

I am a human in the end

[proud igloo]

So yeah Umbreon is more bulkier then Vaporeon

[unkempt egret]

~team plasma, ||shortly before kicking a muuna for its dream mist||

[untold hill]

meanwhile yveltal

[proud igloo]

And then getting dream screwed.

[proper iris]

BRO I HAD FORGOTTEN THAT

[unkempt egret]

I don't think that's the same cutscene with "plasmbad" though I think that one's later

[untold hill]

haunter can just lick em all'

[proud igloo]

It’s in the Dreamyard that scene, while Plasmbad is in Casteila City

Now I think about it Dream Mist is literally LSD and you cannot convince me otherwise.

Because of the hallucinations

[untold hill]

https://tenor.com/view/energy-gif-6102003948523520785

[proper iris]

Have you ever had ambien and refused to sleep afterwards

Bc I'm pretty sure that there is dream mist

Just good ol' strong sleep meds

[hard plume]

I will say this as some sort of silver lining: At least it shows people the more messed up aspects of mythology

[proud igloo]

Yeah like don’t tell people the original version of Sleeping Beauty

Let’s just say what the Prince does there is straight up not okay.

[hard plume]

or cinderella... where the stepsisters... uh

fun fact: in this one children's book I used to read, they did leave in the thing where the two stepsisters chop off their feet, but it's more of an attempt/stupid idea rather than an actuality. Cinderella stops them before they do it

this is the book btw

those guys had the balls to keep that part in and I respect that

[sweet crypt]

Could've sworn someone was cooked into stew and fed to someone else, mightve been another fairy tale...

[proud igloo]

It’s not Hansel and Gretel that was an oven.

[hard plume]

found it: its the juniper tree

[sweet crypt]

Fairy tales are kinda fucked though that's the moral of the story

[proud igloo]

And bear in mind society was a lot harsher back then

[ornate scarab]

thought y'all might like these cards

[proud igloo]

Stories like that were required to teach morals and survive

And the same applies to these leaked Pokémon stories.

[sweet crypt]

Moth larva :)

[proud igloo]

They had morals and lessons in them.

[ornate scarab]

first 2.. similarly shaped. hold like burger

[hard plume]

ngl it was pretty ballsy of them

[sweet crypt]

Idk about that, one causes burns via contact and another has spikes

[proud igloo]

I think they got cut due to the fact parents might complain

Or they wanted to appear more family friendly

[sweet crypt]

Do I like wear oven mitts to hold Larvesta or something

[hard plume]

i don't think so?

[sweet crypt]

And how do I hold Pincurchin that's a sea urchin but electric

[proud igloo]

Like a Oshawott would do

[proven geyser]

larvesta doesnt need to have flame body

[sweet crypt]

Isn't Swarm the HA

Yeah I'm uhh

[proven geyser]

idk but you can still hold him !!!

[sweet crypt]

Not taking that risk

[hard plume]

wear gloves

[ornate scarab]

cry through the pain

[sweet crypt]

Ok

[ornate scarab]

or that

[proud igloo]

Wear rubber gloves
FIFY

[ornate scarab]

i love yuka moriis art so much

[proud igloo]

That way you don’t get shocked

[hard plume]

just don't touch the little flamey bits

[sweet crypt]

Idk why but I like the visual of just gently holding a sea urchin

[proud igloo]

Also would Oshawott eat them?

As otters eat sea urchins irl

[sweet crypt]

It might if it didn't have a weakness to Electric

[hard plume]

now that is something I would love to see elaborated on

[proud igloo]

It probably evolved to be electric

[ornate scarab]

cup:)

[proven geyser]

what i was abt to say!!

[hard plume]

perhaps there are some unovan pinurchin that aren't electric type
they could be fire/poison, but oshawatt can consume them safely

[sweet crypt]

Does this mean Oshawott will now become a Ground type, Heatmor vs Durant style?

[proud igloo]

In future I beat yeah

In fact if Samurott wasn’t pure water, it could have been Water/Ground

[proven geyser]

i predict a ground type otter!!

[hard plume]

an otter that swims in mud....

[sweet crypt]

Why did Samurott not get Intimidate when the dex constantly talks about it intimidating things

[proud igloo]

Because have you seen it

Hard to be scared of it

[proven geyser]

tbh not sure how how samurott would be ground

[sweet crypt]

Well have you seen Shinx

Or Maschiff

[proud igloo]

Shinx tries to kill you in PLA

[proven geyser]

shinx are little menaces in legends

parad

[hard plume]

a muddy otter can be a possibility

[proven geyser]

paras

FRIEND

[proud igloo]

Not to mention how cute that would be

[hard plume]

ahhh I heard of the memes involving paras

[proud igloo]

And we know the Japanese don’t say no to cute things

[hard plume]

to contrast with oshawatt, it would be a thin little furret-esque creture

being able to camouflage in the mud

[proven geyser]

you wander into natures pantry looking for munchlax and pikachu, and these fuckers and their alpha parasect....

[proud igloo]

Unfortunately otters aren’t native to Greece

I think

[hard plume]

I'm not considering it for gen 10

just a little idea

[proven geyser]

i wouldn't take the leak as gospel

[proud igloo]

This is why I carry a fire type

Being 20 levels higher means nothing to a 4x weakness and turn economy

[hard plume]

well if there someone out there did make a greece region...
then someone out there better bank on the fact that otters do exist there

[sweet crypt]

I'd be more worried about finding Munchlax than fighting Alpha Parasect

[hard plume]

meet the lutra lutra

[proud igloo]

Oh you get those guys in my country as well!

[proven geyser]

munchlax is skittish disposition

[proud igloo]

Good luck seeing them though

[proven geyser]

he doesnt attack

[sweet crypt]

Finding Munchlax is the hard part

Why is bro so rare

I hate this

[proud igloo]

But river otters are probably better for Ground types

Water/Ground

[hard plume]

dude have you seen that guy run in smash bros brawl

dude will run like a goddamn bullet if anything hits the ground

[sweet crypt]

No

[proven geyser]

only spawns in one spot and might not even spawn bc the specific spot can also spawn something different

[proud igloo]

How Max can carry a Munchlax on his back I don’t know

[hard plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTR0OUXaV1o

[sweet crypt]

I have not found Munchlax outside of a massive mass outbreak

[proven geyser]

i found like one munchlax

[proud igloo]

Then again it’s the same energy as Lillie having Cosmosom in her bag

[proven geyser]

guys he FLOATS

it's a superdense object that floats

[sweet crypt]

Assuming gender smhmh

[proud igloo]

Gravity is still a thing

[hard plume]

seconded.
cosmoem is surprisingly dense

[proven geyser]

no it's fine my dad is john nintendo

[hard plume]

not when you're a floating space baby

[proven geyser]

abra

[sweet crypt]

Tbf people canonically assume the genders of Solgaleo and Lunala

So like

[proven geyser]

oh real

[hard plume]

well that just depends if the gender is lion or bat

[proven geyser]

real real

female lions can have manes

[hard plume]

it's a rare sight, but it can happen!

[proven geyser]

it's uncommon but it's not an indicator of solgaleos gender

[sweet crypt]

So is Solgaleo like 87.5/12.5 M/F

And Lunala is vice versa

Or something

Presumably

If we were to assume genders

[hard plume]

nonbinary icon

[sweet crypt]

Do they even have genders?

[proven geyser]

no they're both starter ratios

no

[sweet crypt]

They're marked as gender unknown

[hard plume]

most legendaries don't

[sweet crypt]

But gender unknown isn't no gender

It's just "we have 0 clue"

Hmm

[proven geyser]

just ask the alien lion lmao

[hard plume]

they probably do, but they don't fit the egg group system

[ornate scarab]

this is where headcanons come in handy

[sweet crypt]

Are the Pokedex entries correct in their assumption

[coarse kestrel]

For the sake of spreading the word The typhlosion allegations are false here is proof. And now it's in English so get to reading https://x.com/Roltas01/status/1846638683371270538?s=19

Roltas (@Roltas01) on X

Since my original thread about Typhlosion's tale has reached the English fandom, I've translated it so there won't be any need for relying on Twitter's machine translation.

This is what truly happened with Typhlosion's leak and the identity of its alleged author, Yuu Nakatsui 👇

Twitter · Oct 16, 2024, 7:45 PM

[sweet crypt]

They have had some uhh

Questionable

Stuff before

[hard plume]

considering that the pokedex-

...wat

[sweet crypt]

cough cough Magcargo cough cough Lanturn

[hard plume]

oh. ok.

so the typlosion leak was false

[radiant leaf]

Unless there’s a dec entry like the one saying Zacian is seen as Zamazenta’s sister go with whatever you feel

[coarse kestrel]

READ THE THREAD

[sweet crypt]

From what it sounds like, Typhlosion leak was poorly translated

And the supposed author is fake

The author was someone else

[coarse kestrel]

Those were also poorly translated by an AI. READ THE THREAD

[sweet crypt]

Still stupid in english

And actually fucking exist

[hard plume]

thanks, bots

[coarse kestrel]

I'm not a bot. Just a guy with nothing else better to do and who is sick and tired of the toxic part of the fan base having their way all the time

[hard plume]

i meant the ai

not you

you're fine

[coarse kestrel]

Ah

Sorry

[sweet crypt]

I wish I could find a transcript of the JP dex entry to fact check

But I can't

That'd be the easiest way to check if it was poorly translated

Because it'd be yknow

Wildly different

[hard plume]

god twitter is a cesspool

thank god i don't have an account

[sweet crypt]

It being actually just poorly translated doesn't change much, it just gives me even more of a reason to hate the braindead idiots who all hate Typhlosion because of this

Because let's be honest, this won't stop them

[unkempt egret]

as I said earlier, once the tide has started, the only way it's going to stop is if the community loses interest and finds something else to start another tide over

[hard plume]

https://twstalker.com/Roltas01/status/1846638748928249956
here's the thread for people who don't have a twitter account

[proper iris]

Bro i need a game to have pokeball cases again

Like in gen 4

[fringe flower]

the tcrf does have some accurate translations of the leaked stories btw

[hard plume]

the cutting room floor being goats, as per usual

[proud igloo]

Unfortunately this isn’t gonna stop them because we live in an era where lies can travel faster than the truth. And as you mentioned translating takes time whereas if you use AI to do it, it lets to mishaps.

Most sane people have long realised it’s supposed to be folktales which this isn’t any better or worse then. But if there is one major takeaway, mythology illiteracy is way higher than I thought within the community.

Like Hypno never touched a child, there’s nothing in the canon that suggests it, but people STILL think Hypno is a child toucher, to the disgust of Hypno fans.

I’m not gonna touch Vaporeon because it’s 4Chan’s fault there plain and simple.

Tl;Dr I don’t think the truth is gonna stop the fandom from doing this.

[coarse kestrel]

Still ain't gonna stop me from spreading the word though

I knew this was just a drop in the ocean. But I still want to try

Human stubbornness and all

Tl;Dr at least the info is out there

[proud igloo]

And let’s be real, why is this what everyone is talking about?

Like we had cool beta designs and concepts which are heck a lot more interesting.

This is the largest leak we ever had with Pokémon and it’s the folklore stories that everyone is talking about.

Which I shouldn’t even be surprised given how the fandom is but still….

[atomic orchid]

Because it came out in the wake of the Game Freak hate thanks to their actions against Palworld. So defenders of that, and haters of Nintendo’s policies are both latching onto anything they can as a form of “Gotcha”

[proud igloo]

I wouldn’t even be surprised if the hack happened because of that

Someone seeking to get their own back on Game Freak

Or at the very least harm their efforts to sue Pal World.

Because while I’m sure Nintendo has a massive legal branch, it would be a logistical nightmare to deal with a patent infringement case, which Japan rarely does, and a major data breach.

At the same time

And also this would have disrupted Game Freak big time as not only was employee personal data leaked, which is seriously bad news, but the nature on how this hack even happened, implied someone extremely high up got targeted.

[coarse kestrel]

It's people focusing on the freaking poorly translated folklore is what broke my freaky apathy on these types of dumb situations where something about pokemon video games happens and the toxic side of the fan base goes hog wild and starts yelling like a nuclear bomb. I legit would rather be doing anything else on social Media. I just am fed up to this point

[atomic orchid]

I kinda want to hop in a Time Machine just to say to all developers“either delete your personal records, or invest in extra security because the 2020’s are the years where massive hacks start getting more frequent”

And then for proof I’ll accurately name drop their future games, consoles, and (in Sony’s case) flops

[unkempt egret]

meanwhile I just ignore as much as I can and only respond to what's directly thrown in my face

because giving it attention is how it keeps going

[proud igloo]

In Nintendo’s case it was due to Idiocy

As a senior member of Game Freak fell for a Phishing scam

Yep. That’s it

So in that case the lesson is “make sure your employees are educated on IT security”

[atomic orchid]

As a former retail employee I can tell you seniors fall for the least convincing phishing scams way more commonly than you think.

And since it’s a Japanese company I have a feeling most of their senior members are in fact seniors themselves

[proud igloo]

Though I think all the hacks happening this decade are a combination of greed from gaming companies, them slacking off IT security and people who not only have a axe to grind but also decent programming skills.

[atomic orchid]

Definitely that last case. Hobbyist hackers are nothing different, but gaming companies have made some boneheaded pr decisions lately that make them targets for these hobbyists

[proud igloo]

Hence why I said Nintendo suing Pal World could have led to this.

Heck I even thought at the time of the announcement “What if someone decided to hack Nintendo/Game Freak as retribution?”

But I stupidly thought that since Nintendo had a major hack some years ago, they would have beefed up security since then.

Guess not

[atomic orchid]

Yeah but I expected the hack to come through other means than a senior level management.

So at least that was a surprise

[proud igloo]

Yeah at least they surprised us with the method used.

[atomic orchid]

But honestly after the Sony hack, I’m surprised the industry as a whole didn’t think to beef up security since that was a major blow when it dropped

[proud igloo]

Still no question I feel this has hurt their lawsuit against Pal World due to a larger mess they have to deal with.

[atomic orchid]

Yes and no. GF will be hurt by it but Nintendo is the ones handling the legal side. Their resources aren’t going to be split as it’s two separate companies involved

If anything this will just make Nintendo more protective of their subsidiaries

and probably tighter lipped too

[proud igloo]

But ignoring the folklore stories, what is your favourite part so far about the leaks?

[fringe flower]

Definitely the Pokémon

[proud igloo]

Personally I’m amazed by how much scrapped Gen 3 Pokemon there are.

Make no mistake someone is gonna make a hack using them.

[radiant leaf]

Probably the unreleased x & y stuff

[proud igloo]

It will be a question of when and not if

[radiant leaf]

Tbf I haven’t been keeping up with them so my info of what is real and what isn’t is scattered, hell I still dont know if the leaks are real

[fringe flower]

there's a scrapped Gen 3 Pokémon where it would've evolved into a random Pokémon

[proud igloo]

Evolotto

My theory is its stats would be the literal worst

Like make Sunkern looks good

[fringe flower]

Gamefreak almost did the thing that most youtubers are now doing years later

[atomic orchid]

I care not for the leaks. I’ve avoided most of them so far and I don’t intend to see the future projects stuff

[proud igloo]

And then evolve into any non Legendary, Mythical or Pokemon that don’t evolve

[fringe flower]

when it comes to leaks, I'm more interested on the Pokémon rather than anything else

[proud igloo]

And you can only get it from the lottery.

[radiant leaf]

Weren’t some of the beta design leaks for mons proven to be fake?

[fringe flower]

Some fake deisgns (mainly the ones in a gen 2 artstyle) were thrown in with the real ones

[atomic orchid]

Rumored, I find it to be fake myself given the styles of the mons in question not matching the head artist (at the time)’s style

[fringe flower]

But if the information from the leaks are on the tcrf, then it's most definitely real

[atomic orchid]

Ken Sugimori loves soft curves, even on steel types. As well as a colored pencil lighting style, of which most of the concept art doesn’t share (looking at the Metagross specifically)

[radiant leaf]

To be fair neither does most concept art to final art

[atomic orchid]

Yeah but if you saw the stuff he shared from earlier games on official tie in books, it becomes clearer there’s a disconnect with these new “concept arts”

[proud igloo]

The theory is Sugimori didn’t draw those Masuda did

Apparently Masuda can do art and it’s consistent with his art style

[proven geyser]

back to where i was before reset, now bulbasaur evolved <3

[proper iris]

Did they only have one concept artist back then?

I know Sugimori is the lead and all

But there must be others

Not saying there's not fakes, just that it may explain some of the art style inconsistencies

[atomic orchid]

He was the lead designer at the time. They had idea guys for parts, but it would have to pass through his hands to make the official artwork

So you’d have a committee, then tell him “this is what we decided. Make art”

[proper iris]

Was it official artwork at that point, even?

[atomic orchid]

Then it goes from his pen, back to the committee for refining

[proper iris]

I know that for gen 1 it was sprite first, drawing later

[atomic orchid]

Apparently Akira Toriyama had a similar means of development for Dragon Quest

[proper iris]

I just don't know how it went for the others

[atomic orchid]

Here’s what we came up with.
Makes initial art, sends back
We have notes
Next art piece with changes, sends back
Etc

[proper iris]

Sounds like most commission work, ok. What i mean is prior to that first step

[uncut oracle]

i'm just thinking that beta lombre is immediately gonna be used here as a double fuse

[proper iris]

I know Sugimori makes the final art.

[atomic orchid]

Double Lombre. Much like Gorochu before him

[atomic orchid]

He makes the first and last. With the last often being used as the basis for the card art. As for the middle idk

[uncut oracle]

like how we have a few fusions here and there where the art is just the beta mons, like porygon2 and arceus and giratina

[proper iris]

But I'm wondering if he worked from the sprites even after the first gen, or if someone else would have worked on a previous "concept" version

[uncut oracle]

meanwhile beta lickilicky just already looks like a fusion

[atomic orchid]

But remember that this method is the current one and we’re talking about 15+ year old art

[proper iris]

I don't doubt he'd work from only the sprites but it just. Baffles me a bit.

It sounds less than optimal to have things not be conceptualized and drawn clearly (or at least clearly-ish) on paper before spriting

[uncut oracle]

hey remember when concept art for sun and moon was leaked and people said the final evos looked too fake to be plausible, and then it turns out they were real?

[proper iris]

And only after the sprite is made make the art

[proper iris]

I vaguely remember praying Incineroar wasn't real

[atomic orchid]

Source: Interview with Masuda circa 2021

[proper iris]

Ok that much makes full sense for 3d models.

But I guess it's hard to know how it was almost two decades ago

[atomic orchid]

Here. Full article. Enjoy!https://professorbeans98.medium.com/pokémon-the-design-process-c62fe9e47181#:~:text=When designing a Pokémon after,details to refine their designs.

[proper iris]

Will take a look, thanks!

Also thanks for the patience, I know I can be a bit slow now and then

[proper iris]

Anyway I still yearn for my cool quadrupedal tiger pokemon.

... No, not Raikou. That lad is too dog to be a tiger.

[atomic orchid]

Here! Found another interview. This time between Sugimori and Iwata about Gen 5

Yeah this actually goes FULL in depth. Including tweets from the artists of Gen 7, and multiple linked sources.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-game-freak-designs-pokémon.105057/

Long story short: Sugimori takes vets and newcomers, ships them to zoos to study animals, then asks them to come up with designs.
They then compare them all in a big meeting and critique each one.
They are not official until he pencils them though

[proper iris]

That's fun

That there sounds more like what I was imagining

With many designs to add up to the one he finally draws as official

[modern magnet]

Haha whoa

Mister J

An old face

[proper iris]

So there are other arts before

[atomic orchid]

But yeah, so those concepts are not actual beta versions until he draws their reference sheet

They’re just proof of concept

[proper iris]

That is just what concept art is.

[atomic orchid]

Exactly. But what I’m arguing is calling them beta designs when most are pre-alpha at best

[proper iris]

I mean, you're right

But when we say "beta version", what many people usually mean is more "work-in-progress version"

[proven geyser]

tbf the really incomprehensible ones aren't even beta

[proper iris]

Anyway I was going somewhere with this but my brain is too scrambled to remember where

[atomic orchid]

Same

[proven geyser]

using beta to refer to all stages of the concept design is kind of. silly

[proper iris]

It is. But it's used anyway.

[proven geyser]

it's common, sure, but shouldn't be encouraged

that arceus blob is a great example of why the distinction should be reintroduced

[proper iris]

also if we forget about alpha versions we can't joke about """alpha males""" just being the awful, glitchy, rough, unfinished version of a man. And for as long as people use that ridiculous label for themselves, I want that joke to be alive

[proven geyser]

REAL

be the change you watn to see

[atomic orchid]

You could just note that alphas only exist in captivity and when under a lot of stress. Leading to a lot of psychological insights to those sorts of people

[proper iris]

ALSO TRUE

Wolves my beloved ♥️

Real "alpha wolves" are just. Parents. Nurturing and raising a family. That's all. I love them.

One of these days I'm gonna do a challenge run of something with only wolf pokemon on my team.
...I just gotta find out if there's enough and which game will let me do that

there's also the debate of if dogs count as wolves but I'll think about it when my brain isn't scrambled

[radiant leaf]

Gen 7 maybe? Since lycanroc and mightyena are in that gen without dlc

[radiant leaf]

Dogs are just domesticated wolves so ig it would count

[proper iris]

I was thinking of lycanroc specifically!

Also thinking if Lucario is wolf enough

[radiant leaf]

I would suggest gen 8 so you could run my boi Yamper but it’s eh

[proven geyser]

gen 7 is the last game that allowed the full natdex, even if it didn't actually have a natdex

[radiant leaf]

Lucario is a jackal actually

[proven geyser]

yeah he's a jackal

[proper iris]

I'm aware

Hence the wolf enough part

Bc at some point all stylized canines get wolfy

[proven geyser]

if you're really low on actual choice, then i'd consider it as a wild canine at least

[proper iris]

Keeping Lucario in my back pocket then

Mightyena is another one that's a headscratcher bc poochyena, even in name, is a dog plus a hyena. But the evo is more muddy. Hyenas aren't even canines after all.

Basically just cats that decided to dog

If I wanted to go canine from the start, it'd need to be gen 6. Fennekin may not be a wolf but at least it's a wild canine

[atomic orchid]

There’s enough in this game alone for a doggo run. And gen 9 has 3 more good boys

[proper iris]

True that

[atomic orchid]

Smeargle is a beagle and it took me till a few months ago to learn that

[proper iris]

I keep forgetting about that!

Idk why but my brain insists it's some sort of mini-cow

Heard of people thinking it's a monkey

[proven geyser]

i see cow inspired, but no monkey imo

[proper iris]

One of these days I gotta draw smeargle dressed as all the things it's been misidentified as.
... and maybe on top of the Snoopy doghouse too

Anyway, for now, it's back to the Platinum Nuzlite bc IT'S TIME TO PREPARE FOR MAYLENEEEEE

And this time the team may actually be decent for that

Just gotta get a few levels

[sturdy sparrow]

random or vanilla?

[proper iris]

Vanilla

[sturdy sparrow]

u got her just got to be careful with kadabra becux of the low def i think

[proper iris]

Oh true, good call, may try to get some held item to work with that

[sturdy sparrow]

i havent done nuzlocks just watched a few if the team is still what i remember than yea on paper ur team is good if the levels are on par

[proper iris]

I haven't done one in a while, and plat is tough

[sturdy sparrow]

i just like sinnoh best

[proper iris]

I really like it too. Diamond and Platinum were two of the games that taught me English

[sturdy sparrow]

it had some really cool designs and the anime had the best rival battle

[proper iris]

Definitely

[sturdy sparrow]

plus infernape story

[proper iris]

Also Lucario movie

[sturdy sparrow]

oh definitely

[unkempt egret]

I finished up plat in july it was... rough

which makes sense since my rule was that I could only use pokemon with a speed stat of 65 or lower

also in HOME I'm only missing three pokemon: zarude, sneasler, and... dracovish

I keep forgetting that since vish was my main mon in gen 8 I only ever revived one of them ROFL

aight just two now. Sneasler I can grab a quick one from GO if I just import it and not sure about zarude

lorde I forgot about the level EIGHTY SIX lampent just hanging out in kitikami

is that actually the highest leveled wild mon in the series that isn't a magikarp?

[sturdy pulsar]

You can encounter a level 100 wild Gyarados in B&W2 Nature preserve

[unkempt egret]

ok let me rephrase that: strongest wild mon that isn't one of those two lines or the level 100 regigigas/greedent in Swish

[coarse estuary]

so im not quite ready to resume my genlocke but what are some fun single game nuzlocke variants yall recommend

[unkempt egret]

well that sure is an animation for focus punch dang

only saw it because the timburr refused to get into the ball

also uh single game suggestions uuuh

if you have X/Y how about a nuz where you specifically take out every single sky trainer?

[coarse estuary]

idk if thats possible i mean ik its possible but on the rare event i dont get a single pokemon that is eligable for sky battles as an encounter ever i just fail lol

[unkempt egret]

there are a few 100% ones you can get, most notably Aerodactyl and the first sky battle isn't until after you have access to it

then again my run also banned megas so I'm not sure how much you'd be challenged on most of them with mega aerodactyl in tow lol

[coarse estuary]

actually the first sky trainer is on the route where you have to ride the ryhorn

so yeah technically possible to get to that point without a sky battle pokemon on the team so if the rule is you have to battle the sky trainer the momement you can access the route they are on or lose you could easily lose

[unkempt egret]

if you skip the opening pidgey yea

since I believe the first encounter on route 1 2 is always forced to be a pidgey

also finally caught a mareanie dang

[unkempt egret]

...oh

okay just a random shiny luxio while pokedex hunting

[proud igloo]

Scrapped Gen 6 are out now and we were robbed.

We were SO robbed.

This would have 100% been on my X team had it made it into the final cut

Also Lysandre wasn't even meant to be the main villain of X/Y

It was AZ

As it was the generic "I'm not ruling anymore so let's kill everyone so I can rule the remaining people once again."

||However I wouldn't rule this out for him to be the main villain of PLZA as they could very well reuse this as due to his immorality he would be around for that game.||

[simple quartz]

What's the type

[proud igloo]

Don't know its not been confirmed.

My guess its a Grass type

As I'm usually quite good at guessing Pokemon types from their designs.

Now I don't know if its pure Grass or Grass/Ground

I also suspect it might had some sun boosting ability.

But I know this will show up in some fangame later down the line

[simple quartz]

It kinda made me realize we haven't really had a Peanut Pokemon are we

I feel like the closest was like the Chili pokemon from that Scov-something in Gen 9 but that felt like a scam tbh'

[proud igloo]

Maybe because this Pokemon is a health hazard?

Lots of people have nut allergies and they can be fatal.

[vernal garnet]

Scovillain

[tight granite]

Why would chili be close to peanuts

[proud igloo]

Decided to do a quick drawing of the Scrapped Peanut Line

[proper iris]

Silly concept, instead of getting the first pokemon in each route, you get them based on pi.
First route you get the third, second route you get the first, third route you get the fourth, fourth route you get the first...

(Yes this is probably a stupid idea but I just woke up)

[proper iris]

||kinda hoping that's not the case and he's a supporting character, everything that has been set up for him in XY makes him seem like he's currently just a sad gentle giant. Or at least that's what I remember of the story, my memory is bad as can be.||

[proud igloo]

||He is now but maybe he wasn’t always like that. And that kicking his teeth in PLZA calms him down and makes him what he was in X/Y.
Similar to how Giratina was way more deranged in PLA than in the Sinnoh Games due to it happening in the past.||

[proper iris]

Ok yeah that could be interesting.

Fingers crossed that whatever happens, it's memorable.

[proud igloo]

||Like people are saying the Eternal Floette might appear but it won’t be with AZ. As it’s only after he sorta helps you stop Team Flare that it comes back to him.||

||Maybe a major reason for the change is that the Floette joins you and helps you stop his mad plans in PLZA and that was the massive reality check he needed.||

[proper iris]

Oooo i like that concept

[proud igloo]

||And if you are allied with Zygarde in PLZA as well that’s two powerful Legendaries/Mythicals at your side.||

||Eternal Floette technically counts as a Mythical since it’s different from normal Floette.||

[proper iris]

Aaaand back to the plat nuzlite, Hero the Machop went down during training. Gotta figure out who to add to the team in his place for the Maylene fight.

[native wedge]

Leakers can go to hell

[untold hill]

nah, I need those beta designs

[unkempt egret]

do you tho

[untold hill]

yesh

[proper iris]

This specific leaker can go to jail for compromising personal data, but I'm still taking the beta stuff

[proud igloo]

This is why Game Freak needs to release art books

There’s clearly a demand for it and people will pay money for it

[proper iris]

Also I'm taking all those short stories bc they're actually kinda beautiful in that "ancient myth" way

[proud igloo]

Because I hate the fact the only way we find out some of these old ideas is when people hack into Nintendo/ Game Freak’s databases.

Speaking of I feel the modding scene is gonna get a big upgrade.

[proper iris]

Fingers crossed

[proud igloo]

As the actual in-game engine that Game Freak uses to create Pokémon games was found.

That is MASSIVE

[proper iris]

Praying for hgss romhacks

[proud igloo]

Obviously the program can’t be used but it can be reverse engineered.

That will be a major tool for those wanting to create Pokemon fangames.

But this also means that maybe a mod to fix Scarlet/Violet’s performance issues could come out

[unkempt egret]

I mean we already have gens 1-3 fully cracked so yea gens 4 and 5 would be neat

[proud igloo]

Also with the Rhyhorn racing scrapped mini game you could use your own Rhyhorn

Shiny hunters would have flexed big time

I just feel depressed seeing how much was axed from X/Y

Those games had so much potential

[proper iris]

They did

[proud igloo]

I knew coming in the X/Y section was gonna be big but never expected this

[proper iris]

And part of that was axed partly bc of miscommunication about BW

And that saddens me

Especially bc gen 6 is my favorite even with all its flaws

[analog timber]

PLEASE, if we ever get Aromatisse replace it with this!

[untold hill]

https://tenor.com/view/aromatisse-perfume-monster-sad-pokemon-amie-pokemon-gif-27404569

hmm

wtf is a spritzee

https://tenor.com/view/fairy-type-pokemon-spritzee-floating-gif-13030742

oh

ew

[proper iris]

I ended up growing to love that weird perfume bottle plague doctor

[unkempt egret]

aromatisse/flamigo fusion

[proper iris]

But I wouldn't complain in the slightest if we'd gotten that

[proud igloo]

Also Gen 6 was meant to have 100 Pokémon

Also did you know that Noibat was meant to be the Vivillion and have multiple patterns depending where you caught it?

[analog timber]

oh that explains it

I thought they were experimenting with colours

also why did the cut the cassowary? Was it meant to be the fossil? Because I'd take it over Slurpuff and Spritzee

[proper iris]

Honestly I'm kinda glad noibat ended up as it did

[mighty robin]

Not sure exactly when I took this (though I can tell ya I never finished the game), but I dressed my PLA character so it looks like a character I created blah blah blah

[atomic orchid]

Spritzie is adorable and that gif proves why I think that.
Aromatise can jump in a lake as far as I care though. Disappointment Central Station with that form

[untold hill]

agreed

[proud igloo]

Also there was a scrapped mythical

[atomic orchid]

Wow. Skipped to the two important panels, but the middle is a total analysis and breakdown of the stories.

[proud igloo]

It’s name was Maburon and it would be similar to Mew

It’s in a document people haven’t cracked yet so stay tuned

[proper iris]

Glad to see there's a decent amount of people with proper reading comprehension out there

[atomic orchid]

ye

The comments just point out how the catgirl has come a long way from the XY days where she fell for an "Eevees are going extinct unless you breed them a ton" joke

[proper iris]

Character development~

[proud igloo]

What comic is this?

[coarse estuary]

ok. ive been thinkin bout it and after further thought, ive decided to do a wedlocke with the rule of neither pokemon in the pair can share a type. ie you cant have a pair of gyarados and lugia or excadrill and skarmory and stuff. and if you have an even number of mons in your party you catch whatever but if you have an odd number or multiple mons that need a pair you can not catch pokemon of a type the mon/mons that need a pair are and can reroll your encounter

[atomic orchid]

It's called Gamer Cafe. It pokes fun at various video games, but has also branched out into actual story arcs as the characters become more and more defined. Like the green haired girl is an utter goblin who plays ultra competitive and/or FPS games. While the purple haired bunny-girl has a daughter and plays a lot of Nintendo as a result (and has a very idgaf attitude)

The red head is their expy for the ultra violent games. Revels in the stuff that makes people squirm, while the catgirl is the exact opposite personality, focusing on the nicer stuff (and FF14)

[proud igloo]

Okay thanks for letting me know

[proper iris]

Why does it make so much sense the cat girl is into FF14

i do know why, i used to play that game, but still

[proper iris]

My patience is running thin at this point, WHY DOES EVERYTHING GIVE SO LITTLE EXP

My entire team is still severely underleveled to take on Maylene and yet everything level 20 and above gives so little

[proud igloo]

And Game Freak security was even more shit then we thought

Because sure the employee got duped by the Phishing email.

But even with the credentials, the entire portal where the stuff was located was password protected.

So the leaker shouldn’t have gotten in

But in an amazing display of IT incompetence, the admin passwords needed to get into it left in the portal without any passwords or security stopping anyone getting it.

[candid spindle]

HOLY SHIT I JUST CAUGHT A SHINY ZORUA

HOLY SHIT

[proud igloo]

All the leaker had to do was grab the passwords, use them to get in to the goods and make it off with it.

It’s like having the keys to a locker in another locker but the door was wide open.

[untold hill]

shit holy

[candid spindle]

its unovan shiny zorua

but

holy fuck it looks epic

[proud igloo]

It’s still a nice shiny

[candid spindle]

yea im playing scarlet btw

[untold hill]

yes

[candid spindle]

it was disguised btw

[proper iris]

Blue tipped foxyyyy

[candid spindle]

btw

that shiny zorua was disguised

[proper iris]

Love shiny zorua

[candid spindle]

im glad i actually caught it

IM GLAD I WAS THAT LUCKY

gosh

i need to pray to the rng gods more

u truly do get blessings

imma keep the grind going strong

btw i have shiny charm on rn

but like

holy shit

my heart absolutely became 🏎️ when i saw it

[proper iris]

... I'm mildly disappointed.
I just got into the game corner, gleefully remembering voltorb flip was in gen 4.
...But it apparently was only in hgss

I suck at slots

[candid spindle]

99% of gamblers quit before they win big

[proper iris]

That's cute

Oh i didn't know the bottom screen clefairy could be shiny

[candid spindle]

gosh what the hell is our luck today

first i get a shiny zorua, and now u get that bottom screen shiny clefairy

[proper iris]

Only one of us is keeping the shiny, but both are still really cute

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-4822326163116896763

Side note: the game corner was awful and I don’t miss it

[proper iris]

I want it back but not as slots

Voltorb flip is nice

But maybe we could get other fun stuff

Blackjack maybe, or plinko. Or something even more skill based like pinball

Make it an arcade

It's a fun break from the main game

[brisk hedge]

Pinball and plinko maybe, but black jack wouldn’t be allowed as the whole reason the game corner was removed was because of gambling effecting the age rating in certain countries

[proper iris]

Fair

But yeah. A minigame place with rewards. That feels nice.

[brisk hedge]

I’d totally be down for more of an arcade version of the game corner though. Pokémon needs to start including more mini games again

And also to make more fun spin offs instead of crappy mobile games

[proud igloo]

We could have had a Rhyhorn racing minigame

Also skiing in X/Y

Imagine a skiing minigame

[unkempt egret]

semi-hot take: nobody would have complained about voltorb flip if the option to buy coins outright was still present

[proper iris]

You're very much correct

The game itself is fun

[brisk hedge]

People complained about Voltorb flip?

[candid spindle]

we had a surfing one in yellow

close enough

[unkempt egret]

back in the day I recall a lot of complaining about how it slowed down game corner rewards

people still liked it but it was more divisive than it is now

[proper iris]

And it did

But i personally feel like it was a good thing

[brisk hedge]

Bruh, Voltorb flip is way better than the slots. Who on earth would prefer blind luck to actual strategy

[proper iris]

HOLY MOLY I GOT 10 BONUS ROUNDS

TM time :D

There's a bit more to slots (in pokemon) than just dumb luck, it's finding the right machine and knowing when to stop

But i do not have the reflexes for it

And my eyesight isn't good enough to follow the reels and figure out the good machines

So they're generally not for me

The clefairy thing in this version of the game corner makes it less awful

Bc if you follow the clefairy, you're guaranteed to win

But to actually get the clefairy to show up and stay

That's just luck.

[unkempt egret]

nobody but "buying coins" is what most people back then preferred over both

especially in FRLG and Sinnoh where the vs seeker is cracked

[proper iris]

Oh thanks for reminding me of the vs seeker

That'll likely solve my training issues

.... i spoke too soon.

Boris the Prinplup is down

Now which of these to add to the team...

[proper iris]

This training isn't going how I wanted at all

Dusty the Dustox got hit with a horn drill

So now if I lose Rouge this is gonna be a big issue to get this badge

[coarse estuary]

why dont you do rare candy grinding?

[proper iris]

With what rare candy

... damn the same goldeen got my roselia too

Rng is not on my side

[coarse estuary]

the one you hack in to make grinding easier lol

[proper iris]

This is on a physical game ;u;

Ok, actually a flashcard, but this one is so old none of the cheat.dat files out there work on it.

And these guys are all already removed from the team

So I'm kinda ✨suffering✨

[coarse estuary]

and? i have a psyical game of many pokemon games and i still hack rare candies in

[proper iris]

As said, it's an old flashcard I haven't been able to put cheats in. And I don't think Action Replays work with flashcards

So unless there's some other way to hack those in

And if there is, please tell me, I'm all ears

[atomic orchid]

?tag cheater

[ebon pond]

Per this server's #rules, we will not help you with **ANY **code changes or cheats. Game files with any modifications void any tech or game support from us.

Trying to edit code to enable cheats will **NOT **work. Magic boots are only available from in game rewards by catching the 470 Base Pokemon.

The only help we will provide to "fix" your issue is to give you the information to delete your game folder and reinstall using the files in #downloads message. This does not affect your save files.

[coarse estuary]

you just need your .sav and a copy of pkhex

[coarse estuary]

put a can in it bot

[atomic orchid]

Yeah ik not game related but I couldn't resist calling you out

[proper iris]

I haven't heard of pkhex in so long

I didn't even remember that was a thing

May give it a go

Thanks for reminding me of it

[unkempt egret]

you can also use vs seeker training as well

I don't think my main spot (north route 212) is available yet though

[proper iris]

That's exactly how i got two mons killed in one battle

[unkempt egret]

so finding a good trainer might be tricky

[proper iris]

Goddamn goldeen

With horn drill

And stupid rng

[unkempt egret]

I mean maybe don't vs seek a trainer who has OHKO moves lol

[proper iris]

...I forgot what horn drill was bc it didn't hit at all the first battle.

I may not be smart

[unkempt egret]

yea I remember the LGP/E gamblers (PI's in plat) being absurdly overleveled to give their OHKO moves a higher proc chance

[proper iris]

Let's see if the save is OK

And if it works, it'll save my sanity

It worked!

Sanity spared

[coarse estuary]

good to know you got pk hex workin

[proper iris]

Now to resist its siren call from now on lmao

[unkempt egret]

a good way I like to do it is to only do it when every defeatable trainer at the moment up to the boss fight is defeated

[coarse estuary]

how i use rcs is i will only use it to get to a level cap right before the fight with said cap or to get a new member of the team caught up to everything else.

[proper iris]

I think I've gotten mostly every trainer, and I'm just capping the level anyway bc the level differences between these team members is too extreme, so

Generally just planning on catching up and then throwing away the rest of the candy, so it should be good.
The issue is knowing I got the thing in my pc

And that in theory I could do anything I want

Mostly impulse vs self control (and reward) case, nothing big

[proper iris]

Levels obtained, off to buy some vitamins to supplement that, and then we fight :D

...I forgot the vitamins were this expensive

We fight without supplementation

Wish these guys luck bc i have no clue if this will work

[prisma veldt]

nah id win

[prisma veldt]

ik this is a weird question but does anyone know how to mod pokemon sword on switch, or even a propper tutorial. Anything i search is usually just going over mods

[sleek jewel]

game name?

[proper iris]

Platinum

Just ol' vanilla platinum.

[sleek jewel]

which starter did you pick?

[proper iris]

Piplup, i know it's not optimal but I love that penguin

[sleek jewel]

i mean in gen 4 all 3 starters are good

valid game tho

also whats your team?

[proper iris]

Currently these.

Battling Maylene

Had just beat the gym but dropped my DS and it froze and I had to restart

Thanks to the challenge I'm doing, my team is hardly ever fixed, there's a lot of swapping around

[coarse estuary]

i thought you were doing a nuzlocke lol

[naive timber]

more ahead than me and i aint doing nuzlocke

what method did you use to get your whole team evenly levelled

[proper iris]

I am. Kinda.

[coarse estuary]

what you mean kinda its either you are or arent

[proper iris]

Instead of KO=Death, KO= can't use them until after the next main story battle

[coarse estuary]

yeah thats not a nuzlocke

[proper iris]

I know

I'm calling it a Nuzlite

[coarse estuary]

then dont claim you are doing a nuzlocke then

[proper iris]

I didn't, i have been calling it a nuzlite.

Or a challenge run

[coarse estuary]

then how come every time i see people talk about your run they are calling it a nuzlocke and you havent been correcting them?

[proper iris]

Couldn't be bothered, tbh

Would have to repeat myself more times than I already have

And it is a nuzlocke-inspired challenge.

But I've been mentioning this unique clause since the beginning

[coarse estuary]

but at the same time if you dont correct them they will assume false things and others who dont know (such as myself) will assume the run you are doing incorrectly

[proper iris]

Fair

But also

The strategies usually apply

[digital root]

Who cares lol

[proper iris]

So the advice y'all give me still works.

[coarse estuary]

you apparently because you replied to me

[coarse estuary]

fair enough ill just try to keep that in mind down the line when i see repeat team members that have died in a previous fight

[proper iris]

They're all just healing their wounds, they'll be ok after a long rest :3

Still losing them cripples my team for oftentimes a long while

And the "only first mon of the route" rule still applies so losing one can still be a run ender

So let's hope this works out

[coarse estuary]

well fair enough. but on other news i have started an ultra sun wedlocke

[naive timber]

a wednesdaylock???

lool

[proper iris]

Ooooh fun

[coarse estuary]

no that is not what a wedlocke is at all

[proper iris]

I've heard USUM are some of the hardest games to locke

[naive timber]

oh lol

why is x and y and sword and shield the easiest games in pokemon

[coarse estuary]

i mean they can be hard if you get bad encounters and arent ready for the evs on all major boss fights. ive had usum lockes before that have gone all the way with good luck on encounters or ones that get end earily because all mons that counter said totem are dead and all mons that are left alive are weak to said fight or weak to that mons form of attack

[proud igloo]

Are you going traditional or are you playing around with other sexualities?

And if it’s the latter how do you decide how the Pokémon swings?

[coarse estuary]

im doing it so males can only be paired with felmales and vice versa

any other i feel makes it turn into pick the best mons in the box

[proud igloo]

So traditional then

Well if I was to do one with other sexualities I would RNG the sexuality to prevent that, but I often document my catches, and what their ordination would be.

[proper iris]

I feel like dice could also work

[proud igloo]

I use random org

Because I can’t throw dice

[proper iris]

Fair

[coarse estuary]

well there is a wedlocke varaiant called a rainbow wedlocke were you assign likes male, likes female, likes any or likes none to the natures and the pokemons nature determines it

[proper iris]

But I get why the traditional format is the classic. Less stuff to keep track of

[proud igloo]

Ah that was what I was thinking of

[proper iris]

That's actually cute

To have their natures determine that

[proud igloo]

Never done a wedlocke. Probably because I like to roleplay and think of story between my catches and I suck at writing romance.

[proper iris]

You can just write them as friends if that's easier

The best couples are those who are each other's best friend first and foremost, after all

[proud igloo]

Besides I always found wedlockes as a concept from a story perspective ridiculous

“And now you two are husband and wife.” “Why?” “Because you are meant to be!” “Dude we literally just met.” “LOVE IS ETERNAL!” “I’m not even in the same Egg Group as her!” “You can make it work.”

[proper iris]

Arranged marriages~

Actually you know what

[proper iris]

This would make for some hilarious shenanigans

"BRO I DON'T EVEN SWING THAT WAY"
"Too bad, you're wed"
"Arceus friggin christ."

[proud igloo]

Arranged marriages are when your parents choose your partner via screening and vetting them.
In a Wedlocke is literally whoever the first opposite gender Pokemon is caught.

[proper iris]

That's the screening and vetting

No one else can be it

Just the very first one.

It's just the standards here are very specific

[proud igloo]

Actually a Wedlocke where the trainer is a romantic sap who thinks love works like in her (Let’s face it it’s gonna be a female trainer doing this) low quality romance fanfics, and her Pokemon are 100% not into it would make for good comedy.

[proper iris]

It would

[proud igloo]

And since the language barrier is there they can’t scream at their trainer they don’t approve and it’s only the readers who know about it.

[unkempt egret]

in another discord I was in we also had the idea of framing it as introvert/extrovert pairs since someone was doing a run where it was seperated by natures instead of genders

[proud igloo]

And there will be one pair who do genuinely fall in love but it’s thanks to getting to know each other, sticking up through thick and thin and basically allowing the journey to deepen their bonds.

[proper iris]

Bonus if it works for one couple and the trainer now thinks it WILL work for all

[proud igloo]

And there will be one where they have a Zangoose/Seviper like relationship and keep trying to kill each other.

The trainer of course, thinks this normal behaviour because it’s a Foe Yay.

And maybe have the rival be the only sane person and try to point out their Pokémon don’t approve of this but since they are the rival, the trainer ignores them.

[proven geyser]

taking quacklin from the guy in the first city was lowkey a mistake, he's at my starter's level and keeping up means that next he won't listen (25)

this time around Reed's training wasn't nearly as strict, but still has a heavy chunk of his EVs in spatk and speed, with a sprinkle of hp and the defenses

ivysaur is heavy spatk, but rounded hp and defenses bc the toad is fat and likes to be fat

[proper iris]

In the end, Rouge the Crobat soloed the whole gym, trainers and leader. I'm impressed.

And also this victory means the fallen members of my team are done healing, just in time for some Team Galactic fights :D

[proud igloo]

Beta Salamance is nightmare fuel

[proper iris]

Haven't seen it

[proud igloo]

Good

Keep it that way

You will be spared

[proper iris]

Nightmare fuel in the Concept Art Cacturne way or...?

[proud igloo]

It’s standing on its hind legs

It looks wrong

[frigid copper]

justice for my girl jynx

she almost had a mega

coded in and everythig

then it was cut

[proud igloo]

And a very good one at that

Stats are impressive and Magic Guard is a dope ability to have

[proper iris]

Jynx needs a regional variant first

[proud igloo]

Especially as it means Rocks would have not hurt her

[frigid copper]

call me actually insane but the beta cacturne is hilarious and not scary at all

it's even cheesier then the overly detsiled bloody sonic.exe images

[proper iris]

Something that makes her less unfortunate looking

[frigid copper]

and he got a neck like some wacky inflatable tube man

[frigid copper]

ngl she LOOKS like a girlboss thats all I need to know

[proud igloo]

This doesn’t look right

[ionic ledge]

nah its salamence with aggron posture

[proper iris]

It truly isn't scary, but it's overdetailed and some people think that means nightmare fuel

[frigid copper]

the lashes are killing me

[proud igloo]

And I hate Twitter so I’m getting them off Reddit

[frigid copper]

ikr

[rotund oracle]

I would have nightmares about the low quality of the poor thing.

[ionic ledge]

do u see it

[proud igloo]

Also don’t have a Twitter account so yeah

[frigid copper]

my bestie kept telling me I was actually stupid or trying to be different for thinking it was hilarious

[proper iris]

Lad is trying to be Charizard

[frigid copper]

he kept giving me descriptors of scary moment

[rotund oracle]

It does look like a Charizard in a bad custome.

I guess it's on the spirit of the season.

[ionic ledge]

we got salamence at home

[proud igloo]

Why the fuck can we never escape Charizard

[frigid copper]

but al I could think aout is this bruv shuffling at 2 miles an hour while violently swinging it's long unstable neck around

[proud igloo]

Either way I much prefer the final version

[proper iris]

As an artist I think it looks cool.

[proud igloo]

But here’s a interesting thing

Huntail and Gorebyss used to be the same

[frigid copper]

that woulda been neat

[proper iris]

Huh that explains the tailtips

[proud igloo]

Ngl it’s a cool design

And guess what?

[frigid copper]

I assume the shiny woulda been the gorebyss colors and their ability would be like a cursed beta version of parental bond

[proud igloo]

These guys were found in the ORAS folder

[frigid copper]

OOP

[proud igloo]

Yep we are cracking that open now

[proper iris]

Oh that's fun

[frigid copper]

I heard

I saw brown haired max concept model art thing

[proud igloo]

And btw no Battle Frontier

[frigid copper]

lol

[proud igloo]

Was never planned

[proper iris]

Sad

[frigid copper]

it was never planned thats a punch to the gut

knowing they put it there to fw us

also justice for french kalos

[proud igloo]

These look fake btw

[frigid copper]

gweeeen

[proud igloo]

But that’s just me

[frigid copper]

hey centro threw them out so they ave a bit more crdibility

[proud igloo]

But they have the creepy wolf in it

[frigid copper]

I think he was the guy who leaked paradox amoongus like 2 seconds after sv's announcement trailer

[ionic ledge]

green lati is pretty sick though

[frigid copper]

y'know

the one EEVRYONE thought was so damn fake

[proud igloo]

It’s just with some of them

I could do it in 10 seconds in MS Paint

[proper iris]

And so could the devs. That's the point of these.

They're concepts.

[frigid copper]

REMEMBER THIS

[proud igloo]

But this gets me thinking

If Gen 3 cut stuff was found in the ORAS folder

[frigid copper]

it was so SO early on

[proper iris]

There's a lot of rough sketches to get to the final stuff

[frigid copper]

like march

[proud igloo]

Then maybe more Gen 4 stuff could be in the PLA and/or BDSP folders.