other-pokemon-games

[fallow urchin]

Yall play pixelmon??

[charred venture]

Omg you have no idea how long I tried to get it to work as a kid. The only version that I got to kinda work back then was so damn cursed

After that I just stuck to pokemon cards and pokemon black

[fathom oyster]

fr

[sleek jewel]

He looks weird XD

[wraith musk]

who brought a zamazenta to a zacian fight ?

[hard plume]

Zaverde! Or would it be Zaviridian?

[delicate hollow]

Have you seen ice cue without the ice block covering his face?
Eiscue or eyescube I don't know what I do know is it's a gimmick pokemon with a frozen head who never has a real face because it's always covered in ice

[tight granite]

anyone has

[tight granite]

you can see his face in the games, its not a secret lul

[wraith musk]

intense

[tight granite]

anytime its ability is used you can see the face

[wraith musk]

i like it

[sweet crypt]

OK seriously why do people think Flutter Mane is one of the most creative Paradoxes?

I've seen this opinion so much

It literally grows hair and that's it

It's like the least creative

Are they deluding themselves because it tears apart VGC and Singles?

[brisk hedge]

That’s more creative than Hisuian Electrode

[sweet crypt]

Not only is it my least favourite but in my tierlist it was the one that ranked closest to the original

And if we're considering how much people have unironically told me it's the most creative Paradox I'd lower it to F tier

No, I did not make a grammatical error

So much people have told me that Flutter Mane is the best and most creative Paradox that it is uncountable

[unkempt egret]

which is the one that you'd rank the highest?

but yea I can see it coming from the idea of people just want Johto Mons to be better (ignoring mismagius here I guess)

[sweet crypt]

In creativity, probably Iron Valiant

But I'll give props to Sandy Shocks for being arguably the 2nd

Even if I don't like it a lot

Paradox Beasts are also high up there with the box arts

But you can write off the rest of the Paradoxes as somewhat uncreative at best

Actually Slither Wing's decent creative too

I'd put most of the Future Paradoxes slightly over most of the Past Paradoxes

[unkempt egret]

I do see a lot for iron valiant

[sweet crypt]

But Past Paradoxes definitely have the ones that are highest in creativity as well

[unkempt egret]

sandy shocks I also like but more as a goofymon than a creative one

[sweet crypt]

Imo Flutter Mane is the least creative

Followed closely by Iron Jugulis, Iron Thorns and Scream Tail

Great Tusk is imo less creative than Iron Treads

Roaring Moon is definitely not creative it is basically a feathered Mega Salamence

However when ranking based off how much I like them all of the Paradoxes jump up to like

B tier at lowest (except Flutter Mane and Scream Tail)

[graceful osprey]

Epic

Meowstic is in gen 8

I have prankster psychic terrain

And calyrex can learn explaining force in gen 8 as well

I have my double battle setup done

Assuming

I can use shadowrex in battle tower

It let's me use Zygarde

So I don't see why not

[sweet crypt]

Sounds like death and destruction

You didn't need Expanding Force yknow?

Also, if you need Psychic Terrain, just get Tapu Lele

Or Indeedee

Both have Psychic Surge which allows you to skip the setting up turn

Tapu Lele is overall better but one of the Indeedee forms (I don't think both get it) get Expanding Force

[graceful osprey]

Fuck thay

I hate the tapus

I'd rather run support cat

[sweet crypt]

Damn what'd they do to you

[graceful osprey]

Exist

[sweet crypt]

Steal your kid

[graceful osprey]

Let's like lechonk

[sweet crypt]

Or something?

[graceful osprey]

I hate it for no reason at all

I just fucking hate them

They're so

Bad

Outside their games

Well

Not bad

But niche

[sweet crypt]

Tf you mean niche

[graceful osprey]

They can't turn into a giant and fist the enemy

[sweet crypt]

They're like one of the best legendaries that aren't straight up box art levels of BST

[graceful osprey]

Also

I forgot they existed

[sweet crypt]

Except Bulu

[graceful osprey]

And support cat is already built

[sweet crypt]

People joke about Tapu Rilla for a reason

[graceful osprey]

I also like to limit myself to two legendaries

Otherwise I'd just run a full team of them

And that's boring

That

And prankster reflect

And light screen

[sweet crypt]

You don't need Light Screen and Reflect if both opponents die every turn

[graceful osprey]

True

But

Always better to be prepared

I do over prep for a lot

I could just do the cheap strat

Of beat up whimmscott and justified lucario

Is thay still considered good?

[sweet crypt]

Beat up strats are mainly extremely cheesy instead of straight up meta or dangerous

[graceful osprey]

Beat up on a justified just sounds funny to me

[sweet crypt]

And I think you'll only hit like 4 times because you only have 4 Pokemon

[graceful osprey]

It's also a prankster than can learn tailwind

[sweet crypt]

I'd stick to Calyrex Shadow destroying everything

[graceful osprey]

That's the plan

[sweet crypt]

Tapu Lele probably is the best Psycjic Terrain setter especially with Caly-S

[graceful osprey]

I didn't want to resort to this

[graceful osprey]

Bold of you to assume I have her

[sweet crypt]

Because Tapu Lele is a Fairy type

[graceful osprey]

I haven't found her yet in raid dens

I hate resorting to shadowrex

[sweet crypt]

I've got an idea

I will randomly generate a Pokemon

And we can see if it solos 1 billion lions

It'd be funny

How many Pokemon until we find one that can solo 1 billion lions?

Make your guesses

First Pokemon is Tandemaus

Probably beats 0 lions

It's kinda just 2 rats

Toedscool

Probably puts a lion or two to sleep, making them free kills

But it's another NFE

It is pretty fast though

Could waste time for the other Pokemon to get their hits in

Primal Kyogre

If you guessed 3, you are correct!

We boutta recreate Noah's Ark

Except this time there isn't an ark

[tight granite]

its just Lions

Kyorge would drown them all

1 Billion Lions would just be 1 Billion Drowned Lions ocne it attacks, the number doesnt matter

while i get people are tryna have fun with the lion idea, making the lions entirely fictional instead of actual lions also ruins the premise too

[graceful osprey]

Granted

Everything else would die in the process

But hey

The lions lost

[sturdy sparrow]

game really does feel like its messing with me looking for an adamant bergmite in legends second check for it one of them is modest

ok it happened agn but there is a brave nature with them

[sweet crypt]

Brave isn't bad

That's +Attack -Speed right?

You don't need that speed anyways

[sturdy sparrow]

ikr

[graceful osprey]

I have given up

I'm resorting to fish

Man

I'm so skillful

One shoting a shield from aegislash

So much skill

God I hate dracovish

....

I got a jolly mint

He has reached peak performance

[graceful osprey]

????????

Does dynamax let you change moves for choice items

I was locked into psychic fang

But I got to change my move for dynamax

What the fuck

I don't like that at all

I'm also starting to understand why intimate us called a good ability

[jaunty kernel]

Beat falkner in my grass only run of crystal Megalith the chikorita running tackle poison powder reflect and razor leaf, James the bellsprout running vine whip growth and wrap, and Potato the hoppip running tackle poison powder synthesis and tail whip.

[coarse estuary]

lets goo. best starter ever taking names

[runic canopy]

One question.
Why don't we talked about Professor Ivy for the longest time? Is she a menace to society?
Just an odd question.
Because she never return on the Horizon Anime nor the Spin-offs and so on.

[fringe venture]

Shiny frends

[lyric radish]

theres a shiny event in pokerogue do i need to start a new run for them to affect me?

7 eggs in and already 1 shiny and its red

nr 2

HA 1

TF?!

[sturdy sparrow]

i didnt expect auto-chess to be so much fun got washed but still fun

[sweet crypt]

Pachirisu didn't make it to Day 2 of VGC worlds I'm free from the toxic casuals

GG

[runic canopy]

I've commited mass destruction to all of the Pidgeys on my Nuzlocke just so that my new Pikachu named Penelope can be LVL 10.

[sleek jewel]

HOLY MOTHER OF POKEMON

[runic canopy]

Anyways

[graceful osprey]

Can I have peonys confidence irl?

I want that mount to have the innards out effect

Kinda like the honeycomb

Or whatever it is that makes you poop bees when you get hit

It's been a minute since I've played terraria

[plush gorge]

calamity

its okay

[sleek jewel]

Want to play calamity together?

[graceful osprey]

So wanna know how I was introduced to terreria?

It was on xbox

I was thrown into a large world on the hardest difficulty

Because of this I only like playong on nightmare

No mediumcore

I'm not a psychopath

But

My first calamity run was in infernum

Boy was it fun

this is a lie

[ebon glade]

Guys im playing cobblemon but idk what Torterra I want

[wraith musk]

th is cobblemon

[icy idol]

Minecraft mod that adds Pokémon

[silk goblet]

Fellow Calamity enjoyer 👌

[graceful osprey]

What's the harder difficulty?

Infernum or resurgence

I thi k resurgence is one

I beat both with a friend

Whatever the purple one is

God that was a nightmare

To back to infernum after that felt like a breeze

Especially the exo mechs

roght

The hell was infernum on the everything seed

I will admit

We didn't beat it

Am I remembering wrong?

I could've sworn....

I'll check when i get home in a few days

[gilded steppe]

excadrill reverse sweep 5v1 goes crazy

[wraith musk]

ngl both you and the opponent have the most goofy teams I've seen

[gilded steppe]

i have no idea what you mean

i have 6 fully functional team members fit for the OU tier

[graceful osprey]

I l9ve uh

Whats his name....

How'd I forget

D

Uh

[gilded steppe]

what do they look like

[graceful osprey]

Mr jet dragon

Dragapult

My brain could only think of dracovish

It's so funny to me how the pokemon with like

Lemme check

[gilded steppe]

better atk than sp atk uses special sets 90% of the time

[graceful osprey]

It didn't save

My dracovish

With max ivs

Ev trained max in atk and speed

Level 100

Like

Maybe 270 atk

I used a jolly mint

The only reason that mon is a threat is cause of choice scarf fishious rend

So fun thing about dynamax

It let's toy change to move you use for choice items

So that's fun

Thank god dynamaxing is banned

I do like how water absorb just invalidates dracovish

[gilded steppe]

play around with band max attack dracovish on webs

trust

[graceful osprey]

It's great

99% if people won't bring a water absorb or dry skin mon to counter fisious rend

And resist don't fucking matter

So long as I outspeed you you die

Unless you're x4 resistant

Then you might live

maybe

[gilded steppe]

"its great" it does 80% to max physdef kyogre of course its great

imaginary technique: fishious rend

[graceful osprey]

I have come to appreciate light screen and reflect again

Since meowstic can learn both

[gilded steppe]

fuck that shit we go magic room in this house

[graceful osprey]

And has prankster

I just

Run the light clay or whatever it's called

And setup both

[gilded steppe]

did someone say +4 sp.atk with scarf?

[graceful osprey]

Honestly

[gilded steppe]

wait that gives me AN IDEA

[graceful osprey]

Why did they give calyrex mounted better beast boost?

[gilded steppe]

magic room team with scarf tail glow xurkitree

[gilded steppe]

because its a box art and its not 100% better

its only their respective attack stats

[graceful osprey]

The only reason I'm calling it better

Is cause it also have unnerve

Sp it says no to berries

[gilded steppe]

unnerve is decent i suppose but doesnt matter that much at all in singles

[graceful osprey]

Why the fuck would I run calyrex in singles

Dracovish

Hidden ability rillaboom

Zygarde for shits and gigs

[gilded steppe]

calyrex shadow is literally the best pokemon in singles wdym

well

not including m-ray

for obvious reasons

[graceful osprey]

Yea

But that's cheating

Shadowrex just folds to sucker punch

[gilded steppe]

tera fairy draining kiss

[graceful osprey]

So it's somewhat balanced

I forget tera can be broken

Since 90% of the time I tera orgepon

[sweet crypt]

Nah, including Mega Ray (if you include Tera)

Mega Ray isn't even 2nd best either because Gen 8 Zacian is wack

[gilded steppe]

gen 8 zacian beats mega ray 1v1 but its not better overall

[sweet crypt]

We love getting banned from Ubers in about a week

And then getting retested only to get immediately banned again

[graceful osprey]

Is there an ice type that outspeeds mega ray?

[gilded steppe]

115 base speed

[graceful osprey]

A strong enough ice move probably one shots mega ray

[gilded steppe]

delta stream

[sweet crypt]

The reasoning for the first quickban was because they suspected that it would be broken and decided to suspect test it in Ubers instead of having it actually be Ubers

So that it couldn't be used in tournaments

Anyways it got rebanned in the suspect with like a 95% majority

This Pokemon is fair and balanced

Remember, just because a Pokemok created a tier doesn't necessarily mean it's the best of the Pokemon there

That'd be like saying Tauros is the best OU Pokemon

Or Mewtwo is the best Ubers (this one's actually debatable though, Gen 1 Mewtwo is a beast)

Tbf Gen 1 Tauros being best OU is also debatable it's also a beast

But I'd say best OU and best Ubers goes to Snorlax in Gen 2

Even though it isn't even an Uber

Snorlax only has about a 50% winrate

Because it's on every team

:/

Best Uber could also arguably go to Gen 8 Yveltal with the 90% use rate, and being the only thing keeping Calyrex Shadow not banned

Slight typo mb

[graceful osprey]

I will say

[gilded steppe]

yes, but m-ray was so much further out of the league of every single pokemon in even gen 7. do you remember what it was like before the m-ray ban? the entire tier was "bring your m-ray and bring a pokemon to beat the other m-ray" like it was gen 8 pure hackmons with species clause.

[graceful osprey]

Even with atk up mint

[sweet crypt]

Well you can say the same with the other AG mons

[graceful osprey]

Zygarde has a shockingly low atk

[sweet crypt]

That's why AG exists

[sweet crypt]

Yeah it's like base 100

[sweet crypt]

And also for the few days Caly-S was allowed that's how it was in Gen 9 as well

And Zacian in Gen 8

And actually Calyrex-Shadow in Gen 8 as well

But it wasn't banned because Yveltal is the GOAT

Also, I know this isn't an actually existent, possible metagame, but Calyrex Shadow was banned earlier than Mega Rayquaza in National Dex Ubers which is the closest we are getting to a direct comparison

Because Mega Ray and Tera probably won't exist at the same time ever

[gilded steppe]

effectively, it's a pure dragon type with flying stab, and 180 mixed attacking stats. 115 speed. 105/100/100 defenses. the only "restrictions" it had is you couldnt run a weather set and you needed to run dragon ascent. it never got nerfed. the difference between mega rayquaza and the others is that mega rayquaza never had a blanket check. there was no single "answer" because any check you bring gets shred to pieces by another, just as popular and viable set

[sweet crypt]

You say that as if the same cannot be said for Caly-S with Tera

They're actually pretty similar

2 legendaries using a generational gimmick they never should've gotten

To become unanswerable

With absurdly high offences, boosting moves, and speed (tbf Mega Ray is quite slow in today's standards)

[gilded steppe]

??

[sweet crypt]

Rayquaza did not need a Mega

[gilded steppe]

it needed a mega, it didnt need a mega that overtuned

[sweet crypt]

It wasn't doing amazingly in Gen 5 but it was doing well

[gilded steppe]

it wasnt doing amazingly at all

[sweet crypt]

It was like a B tier legendary in Singles

That's decent

[gilded steppe]

gen 3, its worse than kyogre and groudon

[sweet crypt]

And Latios, let's fucking go

[gilded steppe]

should not have happened

[sweet crypt]

What the fuck is a Soul Dew nerf!!!!

[gilded steppe]

WHAT THE FUCK IS A SOUL DEW NERF RAAAGGHHH I LOVE PURE HACKMONS

[sweet crypt]

And yeah I don't need to explain why giving the borderline broken legendary the solution to its singular problem and then erasing said singular problem from existence is a bad idea

They could've like not allowed Calyrex into Gen 9

That would've been amazing

[graceful osprey]

The second dlc kinda just said

Have legendaries

The horses were enough

But they said have a calyrex as well

Well

Transfer one over

[sweet crypt]

Is Calyrex not obtainable in Gen 9?

Damn

That's shit

[graceful osprey]

Nope

Both horses are

But no calyrex

OR sword and shield dog

Why is it captilozong or

Fuck off

[gilded steppe]

252+ SpA Soul Dew Protean Latios-Mega Secret Sword vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Blissey: 2208-2598 (309.2 - 363.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Soul Dew Protean Latios-Mega Secret Sword vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 708-834 (100.7 - 118.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Soul Dew Protean Latios-Mega Moonblast vs. 248 HP / 80+ SpD Aegislash-Blade: 206-243 (63.7 - 75.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

[sweet crypt]

Add that to the list of Pokemon that are annoying hard to get an optimal varient for

[gilded steppe]

WHAT THE FUCK IS A SPECIAL WALL

252+ SpA Soul Dew Protean Latios-Mega Sludge Wave vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Moltres: 238-282 (61.9 - 73.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Soul Dew Protean Latios-Mega Freeze-Dry vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Giratina: 372-440 (73.9 - 87.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

this is the bad set btw

well not really, i think this one's better. but most ph players say that the flash c, secret sword, moonblast, grass knot is better

[sweet crypt]

Wait so you play PH?

How much do you hate Emax Eternatus

[nimble mauve]

i got 0 clue how good manaphy is cause ik its not good damage wise BUT

[sturdy sparrow]

depends on game but i think as good as mew in terms of stats

[sweet crypt]

Typically one of the better 100 per star mythicals

But be careful as Pokerogue Manaphy Eggs are more likely to hatch into Phione

[nimble mauve]

and thats bad then

[sweet crypt]

Phione is terrible

Pokerogue does attempt to make every Pokemon at least useful

So Phione probably wouldn't be too bad

[nimble mauve]

alright then

[sweet crypt]

Can't be worse than Farfetch'd being still terrible and costing 4

[nimble mauve]

self reminder

catch a grass type

[sweet crypt]

I know it gets Huge Power and all as a passive but even comparing to the other Huge Power mons that's a massive scam

[nimble mauve]

im fighting aqua so i gotta be prepared

[sweet crypt]

Fraudfetch'd fr

[nimble mauve]

whats stronger in pokerouge tapu bulu or cresselia

[sweet crypt]

Idk I don't have either of their egg moves

[nimble mauve]

a

[sweet crypt]

But I guess in regular Pokemon, Bulu would be better for Singles

[nimble mauve]

cause i still gotta beat the main game

[sweet crypt]

With most of Pokerogue being single battles

That being said, Bulu is also outclassed by Grassy Surge Rillaboom

[nimble mauve]

i lost before i got anywhere close to aqua members

it wasnt bad

[sweet crypt]

Nice

I believe Manaphy is 1/8 from the manaphy eggs

Which egg move did you get?

You already start with Tail Glow so it's probably an auto include I just want to know what else you get on it

[nimble mauve]

i got some ice thing

but i just found a wild shiny

didnt get a pic of it before i caught and evolved it

[graceful osprey]

Goomi!

[runic canopy]

I now have 5 Pokemons

In my Nuzlocke

Even tho I have to use 2 on Misty.

Penelope the Pikachu
Archey the Fearow
Behemus the Male Nidoran
Lancelot the Beedrill
And Armada the Wartortle.

[nimble mauve]

i think pangoro is a little op for pokerouge

he 1 shot everything from a floor with just drain punch

hes 1 shotting and ice type gym leader with only drain punch

https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-punch-serious-gif-12250021

[graceful osprey]

So

Legend

You know

Damage stuff

What's more damage

Having fishous rend go first without choice band for 170bp

Or Having it go second with choice band for 85bp +50% damage?

Ah

Hes on do not disturb

Otherwise I'd ping

[sweet crypt]

Doubling damage is a lot more significant than increasing it by 1.5×

[runic canopy]

Ok

So I can only carry 2 Pokemon on my 2nd Gym.

The Nuzlocke has been too intense.

[sleek jewel]

thanks XD

[stray heart]

So how screwed would you be if you woke up in any Pokemon region?

[sweet crypt]

Under Pokemon logic? I'm fine no matter what

Under normal logic? I'm fucked

[stray heart]

Which region would be the worst to live in?

[sweet crypt]

Unless I get transported back in time, then I'm fucked no matter what

[sweet crypt]

Hisui if that counts

Otherwise, I'd probably bet on Unova

Accidentally said my reasoning instead of the region

[stray heart]

Imagine Arceus decides to spawn you near an Alpha Pokemon

[sweet crypt]

Team Plasma is probably the most evil team of the evil teams

[stray heart]

I mean, I’d go there for Chandelure

[sweet crypt]

They literally froze an entire fucking city with a legendary Pokemon-powered airship to get what they want

I am not fucking with that

But they would definitely fuck with me

And I'd die

[stray heart]

What about Alola during the Ultra Space invasion?

Like imagine your house being crushed by a screaming void crab

Or infested with jellyfish parasites

Anyone?

[sweet crypt]

If it was game logic

I'd just catch them

Because they're cool and exotic Pokemon

And also, using an origami samurai that's probably about as big as half an arm as a shuriken that can cut steel towers in half is pretty funny

[delicate hollow]

For the longest time I though Jirachi is the only Hoenn mythical but never Deoxys

[atomic orchid]

Eon Duo too

[sweet crypt]

Eon Duo aren't mythicals though?

They're full on legendaries

I should know, Latios is my literal favourite Pokemon

[atomic orchid]

I always get confused on them.

[sweet crypt]

For future reference, all the mythicals are
Gen 1
Mew
Gen 2
Celebi
Gen 3
Jirachi
Deoxys
Gen 4
Shaymin
Manaphy
Phione
Darkrai
Arceus
Gen 5
Victini
Keldeo
Meloetta
Genesect
Gen 6
Diancie
Hoopa
Volcanion
Gen 7
Magearna
Marshadow
Zeraora
Meltan+Melmetal
Gen 8
Zarude
Gen 9
Pecharunt

[coarse estuary]

is creselia not a mythic like darkrai?

[sweet crypt]

It isn't

[coarse estuary]

strange. i thought because its a counterpart to darkrai it would also be a mythic.

[sweet crypt]

Yeah one would think that, but nope, Cresselia isn't mythical

I know Cresselia is 100% female but idk still feels weird calling it a she for some reason

[coarse estuary]

guess its kinda like how in bw1 they treated zoroark and zorua like they are mythics with the way you obtain them but they are just normie pocket creatures

[sturdy sparrow]

the sea's legend request wasnt as bad as the first time but it was still tough

[coarse estuary]

5 trials down in my playthrough

[frank lily]

Forgot to post Beldum com day

[brisk hedge]

Which version?

[graceful osprey]

That makes a lot of sense and now I feel stupid

Of course x2 is nore than x1.5

[runic canopy]

I'm now on Cerulean City

Its time to fight Misty

Gulp

[graceful osprey]

Dammit

I mean that makes sense but damn

The horse calyrex gets on keeps the item it was holding

So I'm like

what ifit holds choice specs?

It didn't work

Not that he needed it

There's a better way to test this

Life orb

[runic canopy]

Thats ashame

[graceful osprey]

It'd be neat but

I understand

So you can't stack two choice specs

Or a scarf and specs

Not that it needs scarf

Why can Umbreon toxic stall

Healing move

Substuite

Everything can learn protect

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[ebon pond]

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[graceful osprey]

Why do pergwncatges exist

And why do I struggle with them

[graceful osprey]

A crit and a burn in the same turn?

Damn

Thanks rng

Wow

Pheromosa has no special defense

Ahe just fucking died

Type null is a friendship Evo right?

[sweet crypt]

My luck in a nutshell

[unkempt egret]

phero has no defenses at all rofl

there's a reason why it's generally called "deoxys-a at home"

[sweet crypt]

Yeah Phero has -1 defences

Deo-A has -50

[graceful osprey]

So

I can probably check bulbapedia

Ok

50%

Helping hand boost

[graceful osprey]

FUCKING ATTACK

STOP.HELPONG HANDING THE RAGE POWER SPAMMING DUMBASS

Well that's all the tapus got

....

Do I care enough about shiny vispqueen

No

I dont

[graceful osprey]

Does...

Does kartana have no special defense

It just got one shot my sunny day weather ball

By a cherrim

[unkempt egret]

not as bad as phero's but there's also a quad fire weakness

[sweet crypt]

Yeah it isn't as bad

It's worse

And like you said, quad SE

37 on Phero VS 31 on Kart

With Kart having lower HP as well

[coarse estuary]

ultra sun

[graceful osprey]

But still

Weather ball?

[digital root]

Thats 100 bp plus the sun boost

[graceful osprey]

.....

100?

It doubles the bp?

[digital root]

It doubles in weather

[graceful osprey]

I mean thay makes sense

[digital root]

0 SpA Torchic Ember vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kartana in Sun: 472-556 (182.2 - 214.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Lmao

[graceful osprey]

What the fuck

Is that both level 100?

[digital root]

Yes

[graceful osprey]

That feels

So accurate

[nimble quarry]

why are the gen 4 evolutions so hated

[molten shadow]

Anyone got a ghouldengo they wanna trade for in Scarlett

[graceful osprey]

How many do I have...

Like

3?

I don't have wifi though

I think total for all time I've gotten like

10

I've done many playthroughs

And most of then I use gholdego on

[west depot]

What's the best pokemon rom game

[molten shadow]

When could you get to a place to trade me? I'm doing an all ghost run

[coarse estuary]

some popular romhacks are rad red and unbound but personally i also like glazed

[graceful osprey]

Sadly no

[west depot]

Not hacks but normal ones

Like original ones from gen 3 to 5

[coarse estuary]

oh then gen 5 for sure as bw1 and bw2 are my favorite pokemon games of all time

[west depot]

What about platinum

I heard good things about it

[coarse estuary]

ive never been a fan of gen 4 but platinum is not bad

[bleak ore]

The thing about gen 5 - that's when they introduced the scaling XP formula, which made it harder to grind, but before they made XP go to every member of your party. I always found the gen 5 games unbearably grindy for that reason.

I can vouch for Platinum. It solved a ton of the issues with Diamond and Pearl, has the excellent Battle Frontier, the Underground is fun, and it lets you catch like 11 legendaries

[coarse estuary]

i always liked the way the new exp system worked because it didnt allow you to get so overleveled extremely quickly and actually kept you either at the level or just below the level of everything you were fighting

[rugged comet]

Gen 5 is pretty nice, but you might end up very underleveled at the end

[rugged comet]

Except for when I did black and was like 10-20 levels below E4 But other than that yeah it's typically like a few levels below

[coarse estuary]

usually that only happens if you get like 4+ members of your team before gym 3 and avoid trainers

[rugged comet]

I fought literally every trainer I found

[coarse estuary]

hince why i said usually

[bleak ore]

For me it's always the Victory Road grind. By that point in gen 5, the reduced XP for fighting lower leveled opponents really kicks in and you'll most likely go in under leveled just so you can stop grinding.

[coarse estuary]

idk ive beat gen 5 over like 100+ times and ive only ever been underleveld 1 time

[graceful osprey]

Vruh

What the fuck is you

Why does paper hit so damn hard?

[vernal garnet]

Papercut ouchie 😞

[graceful osprey]

Please tell me this mon is banned in higher level tournaments

Or whatever they're called

I guess it'd make sense if itbwasnt

Seeing how it juts folds to a special fire move

It losing to a torchic with ember is forever going to be funny to me

[sweet crypt]

It isn't, it's not extremely fast (still like 100+ Speed though) and has terrible coverage

For example, despite having 181 attack, it is unable to break Corviknight

And yes, it has 181 base Attack

For reference, Mega Rayquaza and Deo-A have 180

Though they both have better speed and coverage

And Mega Ray has better bulk

[runic canopy]

Hey can somebody help me

Should I evolved my Nidorino into Nidoking or should I wait on the high level?

Idk what to do TBH.

[coarse estuary]

what game u playin

[runic canopy]

Pokemon Blue Nuzlocke.

[coarse estuary]

i would say 14 as any other moves it would want you can get via tm

[runic canopy]

You mean 24?

[coarse estuary]

no i mean 14

[runic canopy]

But my Nidorino is Lvl 16

Did I messed up?

[coarse estuary]

then just evolve it. you arent missing out on anything as like i said everything else you want you can get via tm

[runic canopy]

Gotcha

[signal pivot]

i mean

have you seen the sun and moon anime

this thing is literally the personification of cool katana battles

plus its supposed to be silly, thats what ultra beasts are really

[wraith musk]

ah yes my favorite game

[wraith musk]

ah yes my bundle of wires

truly an interdimensional beast and not just sentient wifi cables

or just a rock
looking at you stackataka

celesteela is based on a space craft

it gets a pass

kartana is just living origami

what very normal

that leaves woman in tights and buff mosquito man

oh and I almost forgot

fire works bomber

beedrill in gen 9

and a jellyfish

[brisk hedge]

At least it isn’t a pokeball with eyes

[wraith musk]

yeah how'd it appear in hisui again

[brisk hedge]

Or three of the same Pokémon glued together

[wraith musk]

magnet pull what can ya do

[brisk hedge]

Because they felt like reusing the same lazy design

[wraith musk]

lmao

also theres rotom

[brisk hedge]

Explain Dugtrio then

[wraith musk]

like how tf is there a lightbulb

[wraith musk]

homies

[brisk hedge]

Don’t forget the wild magnezone

[wraith musk]

https://tenor.com/view/dugtrio-pokemon-alola-gif-6188839

[wraith musk]

oh yeah lol

[analog lance]

Champion Beat for Galar! The team:
Trix the Cinderace

• Flame Charge
• Double Kick
• Pyro Ball
• Fire Punch
  Honeycrisp the Appletun
• Dragon Pulse
• Apple Acid
• Body Slam
• Energy Ball
  Donatello the shiny Drednaw
• Rock Slide
• Waterfall
• Jaw Lock
• Liquidation
  Jasmine the Copperajah
• Iron Head
• Bulldoze
• Play Rough
• Heavy Slam
  Rarity the Galarian Rapidash
• Zen Headbutt
• Smart Strike
• Dazzling Gleam
• Psycho Cut
  Briton the Runerigus
• Brutal Swing
• Earthquake
• Rock Slide
• Shadow Claw

[paper tinsel]

Cool nicknames

[graceful osprey]

Ah

I see

Hes slow

Thats....

7 stars?

I wonder if I can get 10

Well

I did all the fun stuff

Now to....

Complete the dex

[hard plume]

what I think is really cool about gen 8 is that the game helped redefine what a dragon could be
And Applin was one of those key factors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBkvaLBOSHw

without this little fella, we probably wouldn't have tatsugiri

And a whole new class of weird dragons wouldn't be unleashed upon the world

[quaint notch]

Has anyone heard of pokemon battle woods??

[runic canopy]

I lost my first Nuzlocke

Now I have 2 starters left.

[torpid wedge]

has one of you guys ever played theta emerald ex?

[sweet crypt]

Ngl some Smogon haters need to pick a flavour of stupid to be

Either hate Smogon for banning too much as if Flutter Mane was ever balanced or hate Smogon for not banning enough broken things despite most bans being community votes with the majority winning (and the council leader who everyone says, whether jokingly or not, rigs the votes typically votes to ban, so unless you're suggesting he rigged the votes against his favour then no)

I get this would kinda be more #showdown-general but those showdown channels seem to be more for Pokeathalon

So me ranting about it there makes about as much sense as ranting about it here weirdly enough

[graceful osprey]

Juat to refresh memory

Type null is friendship

Yea?

[sweet crypt]

Friendship evo? Yeah

[graceful osprey]

Ok cool

Thw gen 8 dex feels

So incredibly slow

I miss gen 9 catching

And how fast it is

Gen 9 really spoiled me didn't jt

Honestly

For a first 3d game

Gen 9 is probably the best option

Like yea it's gimmick is meh

But boy is it accessible

I love beating up children

I mean uh

[sweet crypt]

Same!

[graceful osprey]

Right!

Five syar raids suck ass!

I forgot!

I hate it here!

This would be so much better if they didn't have a set amount they could take

Before it just caps

[sweet crypt]

That's something that isn't different in Gen 9

Man, some of these 6 star Tera raids are hell

[graceful osprey]

5 star raids are fine

It's the 6 stars thay cause problems

[sweet crypt]

Idt 6 stars exist in Gen 8

So I'm just taking "max stars" as the default

[graceful osprey]

And in gen 9 raids tou can one shot

Before tera shield goes up

[sweet crypt]

Can't one shot the higher level ones unless you set up the correct Pokemon enough

[graceful osprey]

I have uh

Ursaluna

[sweet crypt]

And are against the correct Pokemon

[graceful osprey]

With guys

Guts&

Burn orb

Ans belly drum

With facade

[sweet crypt]

Seems too risky

[graceful osprey]

So that one shots a vast majority of raids

[sweet crypt]

They hit you once and it's over

[graceful osprey]

I still have like

200 hp left

[sweet crypt]

And I know for a fact that I'm instantly getting hit by the strongest move possible against me to KO

[graceful osprey]

My ursa has what.....

402hp?

[sweet crypt]

I feel like a lot of Pokemon could KO an Ursaluna from that range

Well a lot of 6 star tera raid Pokemon anyways

[graceful osprey]

And

I do have other mons I use

Ursa is mainly for yknow

Mons that don't have super effective moves

And event raids

Well

Event raids are either slowbro or iron hands

[sweet crypt]

Yeah ig I see that but even then I feel like Ursaluna would be too risky

[graceful osprey]

I run shell bell on iron hands

[sweet crypt]

For example against a Pokemon with great Attack/High SpA

Or against a Pokemon with good Physical Bulk or Tera Ghost

[graceful osprey]

I've won raids before with my umbreon

Fun thing

My umbreon and I beat iron leaves

Offlinr

[sweet crypt]

I can see that

[graceful osprey]

Foul play go brrr

[sweet crypt]

What moves did it have? I forgot

[graceful osprey]

Sacred sword

Psychic edge

Megahorn

If I don't max ev her spD and def she would've been one shot many times

I also gave her her hidden ability

So she can't be flinched

Toxic

Moonlight

Substitute

Foul play

The fun setup

I'm usesure if she's ever been one shot

She 100% can be

I will say

I do not like using umbreon on gen 8

I do not have access to toxic

Therefor bad

And like to be fair

That is half of the damage output

The other half is foul play

But that only works half the time

We love toxic stall

Correction

It can have toxic

Just if it's from any gen but gen 9

Which is where mines from

Fun

I love critical captures

Oh?

Finally

A good fucking shiny

Oh no

You have double edge

I am on a timer

Ah the quick ball

I wouldn't even consider doing the dex if you didn't exist

So question

How is kartana normally built?

It is atk and speed or like

Speed some atk and spD

It feelsbsliw

So I'm half way assuming you want a speed beast boost

Cause it has swords dance to buff its attack

[sweet crypt]

You can't unless you run minimum EV investment, a -Attack nature and non perfect IVs

[graceful osprey]

Swords dance is so funny

[sweet crypt]

Kartana does still do it sometimes but usually it'd just go max Attack and Speed

Maybe use a Scarf or Band

[graceful osprey]

Cause when you first play pokemon

It's like

Oh swords dance

[sweet crypt]

Or just use SD and not care about speed beast boost

[graceful osprey]

Why would you run that

But after you play for a bit

You see swords dance

And start sweating

[sweet crypt]

Yeah Speed Beast Boost needs -Attack nature and 19 IVs if you're max investment on Speed with IVs, EVs, nature etc

Kartana isn't slow btw

It has 109 speed

[graceful osprey]

Really?

[sweet crypt]

It's just that Kartana also has 181 fucking attack

[graceful osprey]

Why was it getting outsped in battle tower.....

They didn't have choice scarf

[sweet crypt]

Choice Scarf, lack of EVs, bad nature, lack of IVs

A lot of factors there

[graceful osprey]

How fast is cinderace

[sweet crypt]

Very fast

119 speed

[graceful osprey]

So funny thing

[sweet crypt]

One of the faster Pokemon that's viable

[graceful osprey]

In battle tower

Leon just spammed suckered punch on my calyrex

So I jist

Set up a screen

Nasty potted twice

And setup a psychic terrain

Also

[sweet crypt]

Set up a 3rd Nasty Plot

Fr

[graceful osprey]

The only reason I went with meowstic iver tapu lele was for prankster screen and reflect

[sweet crypt]

Wait does the AI continue spamming Sucker Punch even when it is disabled by Psychic Terrain?

[graceful osprey]

Theose have saved my ass more than a few times

[graceful osprey]

No

I outsped it though

So

Astral barrage go brrr

So far

The o ly thing I've encountered that outspeeds prankster is sucker punch

So if I know a mon has it

I just

Nasty plot and have meowstic set up psychic terrain

In situations like that tapu like would be better

But it let's me setup a nasty post essentially for free

Even if the enemy has a move that can ohko

[sweet crypt]

Sucker Punch is +1 isn't it?

[graceful osprey]

I have focus sash

[sweet crypt]

Sucker Punch doesn't outspeed Prankster, it priority ties

[graceful osprey]

It might be +2

[sweet crypt]

Whoever moves first won a normal speed tie

[graceful osprey]

Ah wait

Aegislash is just slower

I have my meowstic built for bulk

So spD and def

Tank at least one hit to setup a screen or reflect

Depends on who my lead is

If it's kartana

[sweet crypt]

So Aegislash is probably invested then

[graceful osprey]

Screen

If it's calyrex

Reflect

[sweet crypt]

Don't bother using Light Screen with Kartana

[graceful osprey]

It helped once

[sweet crypt]

Any non resisted Special move is gonna fucking kill it instantly anyways

[graceful osprey]

Just once

[sweet crypt]

Unless it's like being used by a Pokemon without STAB that doesn't have very high SpA

59/31 is similar to Jynx's physical bulk

Except somehow even worse

[graceful osprey]

Stackataka is so funny to me

And how you want less def ivs

I remeber seeing s video about that

[sweet crypt]

Stakataka's stat spread is like if Toxapex sent most of its SpD into Defence

[graceful osprey]

How an atk beast boost would be good

Cause it has great coverage

[sweet crypt]

I think it only runs attack Beast Boost on Trick Room

[graceful osprey]

But to get that you need atk up and def down mint

[sweet crypt]

That said, if you're running Stakataka outside of Trick Room, you are doing something wrong

[graceful osprey]

Basically zero def is and max atk ivs

[sweet crypt]

Similar to Kartana honestly

[graceful osprey]

Where the fuck is you basculin

Jusy better coverage

I think

[sweet crypt]

On how if you want Speed Beast Boost (which is ran) you run Timid nature

With 19 Attack IVs and 0 Attack EVs

And 252 Speed EVs (31 IVs should always be a given)

[graceful osprey]

I love how beast boost can be conokety broken

Or not matter at all

Do you not fish

I can Google it

2%???

Fuck off game

I found one

That was fast

Huh

Steel grass is actually a really good typing

Ignoring the x4 fore weakness

Ots only other weakness is fighting

And it has a lot of resistances

As well as immunity to poison

If only it wasn't x4 weak to one of the most common moves

How many mons can learn flamethrower?

Too manu

THIS MOTHERFUCKER

HAS HIT THOUGH CONFUSION

EVERY FUCKING TIME

ITS BEEN LIKE 20 TURNS

HOW

Thos is the most stubborn fish ever

Timer ball save me

[sweet crypt]

Steel/Grass is unironically the best defensive type

[graceful osprey]

Is the second best bug steel or something

[sweet crypt]

It's a very common opinion and that's due to how much the type has going for it

[graceful osprey]

It's has less resitances

But it's only weakness is fire

[sweet crypt]

It's definitely another steel type, but I think Fairy/Steel is better

[graceful osprey]

Hmmmm

It's good

[sweet crypt]

Bug/Steel's definitely good though

[graceful osprey]

Yea

Two immunitys

That ground weakness hurts though

[sweet crypt]

Resisting Electric, Water, Dragon, Fairy and Rock really boosts Grass/Steel a lot, along with the immunity to Poison (both moves and the status)

[graceful osprey]

There's so many strong ground moves

[sweet crypt]

As well as immunity to Powder moves

And it's only weak to Fire and Fighting

You can just swap out of those attacks

[graceful osprey]

The raid sucked

[sweet crypt]

And typically, Fire and Fighting tend to be very volatile

[graceful osprey]

Cause if you didn't have a special fire or fighting move

You basically get swept

[sweet crypt]

Fire types tend to be frail

[graceful osprey]

Tokarol the goat

[sweet crypt]

And while it has a good few resistances, its 3 weaknesses are extremely terrible

Fighting has 2 bad weaknesses

Does have good resistances though

The bigger thing for Fighting is how lopsided it is offensively

Yes, it hits a ton of types SE

Including Steel

[graceful osprey]

It has so many weaknesses

[sweet crypt]

But an equal number of types resist it

[graceful osprey]

It's not even funny

[sweet crypt]

3 isn't too many

[graceful osprey]

Right

I'm thinking of ice

[sweet crypt]

Fighting also can't hit Ghost

[graceful osprey]

Fighting steel is such a funny typing to me

You're weak to yourself

[sweet crypt]

Then there's the fact that Coverage moves of these types can be tanked by the main Grass/Steel

AKA FerroGOAT

[graceful osprey]

I never used it before

[sweet crypt]

Ferrothorn has high bulk, great type, and good movepool

It doesn't have reliable healing but it doesnt need it

[graceful osprey]

I like iron barbs

It's a funny ability

It's just free rocky helmet

[sweet crypt]

Those resistances with those stats, hazards, Knock Off, Leech Seed, strong STABs off an acceptable attack stat

Body Press as well if needed

Or Iron Defence/Curse

[graceful osprey]

I l9ve how gen 9 gave zamazenta body press

Yes

[sweet crypt]

Ferrothorn's quite the defensive Pokemon, and is one of the strongest choices in Singles OU and Singles Ubers

[graceful osprey]

Let's give the high defense mon the move that gets stringer the more defense you have

[sweet crypt]

I hate how Gen 9 gave Zamazenta Body Press

Because Gen 9 gave it Body Press

Why did it not get Body Press in Gen 8

Wtf is this

[graceful osprey]

At least he has it now

[sweet crypt]

Zamazenta's already the worst Box Art

[graceful osprey]

Positive things

[sweet crypt]

And they fucking lowered its stats and nerfed the ability

Body Press made up for it in VGC

In Singles, not quite

And it fell to OU

It's the 2nd Box Art ever to be in OU

The only other one was Kyurem-B

[graceful osprey]

To the pool

[sweet crypt]

Which has since gotten actual physical Ice STAB and got banned to Ubers

Tbf, the box art form of Zamazenta wasn't the one that fell

So ykw technically it isn't the 2nd Box Art to fall to OU

[graceful osprey]

I love when casual and cpmpeteiev have complete different views

[unkempt egret]

luxray moment

[graceful osprey]

Them there's pokemon like Zygarde

That everyone loves

Right?

Everyone loves the 600 hp mon

Is calyrex s generally loved or hated?

Or both?

Love to use em

Hate to fight em

[sweet crypt]

I think it's generally hated

I have not seen anyone like Caly-S

Rather similar to how much it is liked casually honestly

Imo I think Calyrex is a decent Pokemon casually

But man I want it burnt at the stake for its war crimes in all competitive formats

[graceful osprey]

I love shadowrex

I've never tried icerex

Is it any good?

O feel like it's be a lot more tanky

I know a mon everyone loves

Eevee

If tou say you hate eevee

You're lieing

[sweet crypt]

Despite being bulky ice type, it defies the odds and is actually a solid Pokemon

Especially in Doubles with Trick Room, but even in Singles it sees good success

Unlike something like NDW who was completely overshadowed by NDM

(And Lunala)

Tbf Caly-I only had to contend with Caly-S for one generation

In the other, it is banned

But still

[graceful osprey]

It's crazy how trick room is either

Broken

Or shit

I'm having raid den flashbacks

I will say

I understand why the merged libre and protean

I don't like it

But I understand

Just casually being able to change you're type to be at advantage is stupid

Especially with a fast mon like Cinderace

Even greninja

[sweet crypt]

Yeah, I actually kinda forgot this earlier but Greninja and Cinderace have both been sent to Ubers before

[graceful osprey]

Does protean make geninja a single type?

[sweet crypt]

With both having the reasoning of the type changing always STAB bullshit

[sweet crypt]

Yup

[graceful osprey]

That's fun

[sweet crypt]

I wonder if Meowscarada would've been broken with pre-nerf Protean

[graceful osprey]

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