other-pokemon-games

[hard plume]

and it's gonna be for very stupid petty reasons

also, found the tweet!

who's ready to go city trekking?

[onyx elm]

It makes sense for it to be Zygarde’s game too. He’s the most Norse based Pokémon with most of it being for Ragnorök

[iron bone]

Why would they do this? This is a kick in the gut

[plush atlas]

Yeah ZA is just lumiose but seems virtual like space... PORYGON

jk

[hard plume]

probably because

LUMIOSE IS A LARGE ASS CITY

WITH 20 SECTORS

AND HECKING CATACOMBS

AND A BIG ASS TOWER

[iron bone]

Your talking about Paris, pokemon world equivalent is much much smaller

[hard plume]

There's still plenty of shit there, my guy

[iron bone]

OMG PEOPLE ITS POKÉMON LEGENDS Z-A. You pronounce it pokemon legends Z to A

[plush atlas]

it was actually bigger

[hard plume]

And we have yet to explore the other areas

[pure salmon]

Na its Pokemon Zaza

[iron bone]

Not enough though to make entire game out of

[plush atlas]

So end to start?

[iron bone]

Yes

[hard plume]

not when it's about revamping an entire city from the ground up

[pure salmon]

Lumiose will probably get entirely overhauled

[onyx elm]

https://tenor.com/view/viking-man-leaps-ice-water-gif-12813214525354223849

[iron bone]

Still I’m refusing to believe it will just be luminous city, if it is then the pokemon company is stupid

[plush atlas]

lowkey more hyped with pokemon sleep update and pokemon tcg pocket

[onyx elm]

RAGNORÖK RAAAAAH

[opaque pivot]

There’s plenty of games that are only in one city

[hard plume]

hell, maybe the center we have explored in the game isn't even the full city

[plush atlas]

Bruh PLZA is FUTURE BASE

[steep crane]

wished it was a pokémon legends in the PAST not in the boring futur :(

[hard plume]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[iron bone]

That makes more sense

[opaque pivot]

I think it will be in the past then you go to the future, z-a

[iron bone]

It could be either

[plush atlas]

A could be for that Past part

[iron bone]

That’s just a theory…..

https://tenor.com/view/game-theory-game-theory-its-just-a-theory-game-theorists-gif-20883020

[opaque pivot]

i like that you can’t really predict what the next legends game will be

[opaque pivot]

I think it would be cool if this one was nothing like PLA and was a completely different twist on the formula, we’ve been begging for variety after all

[plush atlas]

its the largest city in the franchise iirc

[onyx elm]

viking sounds RAAAAHH

[opaque pivot]

Instead of focusing on catching it focus on some other thing

[hard plume]

A dungeon crawling city management game is a pretty crazy thing to think about

[iron bone]

They legit on Twitter posted the zekrom and reshiram tweet saying “next week”

[hard plume]

le best

[iron bone]

https://tenor.com/view/the-scuut-scp-sl-scp-juked-bhopping-gif-12621674246582336714

Piplup was legit first Pokémon I ever had in a game

[plush atlas]

then they jebaited people with unowns in the presents

[iron bone]

Still will never forgive pokemon for what they did to ash greninja in both the game and anime

[hard plume]

since PLA was about completing the first pokedex, maybe PLZA would be about teamwork and connections

[iron bone]

They had there chance in journeys to fix it

[hard plume]

I mean, that's what powered mega evolution

the bond between person and pokemon

[iron bone]

Still doesn’t excuse with them having ash release it and nerfing it

[plush atlas]

yet all dex entries about megas is that they suffer through it

[iron bone]

Sciszor and houndoom…..if you know you know

[plush atlas]

yeaaaaa

[onyx elm]

Maybe we get new Pokémon or new evolutions?

[plush atlas]

wish we get for mons with only 2 evos

[iron bone]

Ahem

[onyx elm]

Have 30 evos

[iron bone]

https://tenor.com/view/heliolisk-pokemon-electric-normal-lizard-gif-26451438

Dis guy

[plush atlas]

YES MY BOY

[iron bone]

https://tenor.com/view/best-friends-step-brother-will-ferrell-gif-4030364

[hard plume]

perhaps some of them aren't designed for mega evolution

[plush atlas]

YIEEEEEEEE

[iron bone]

If they don’t give us mega flagon though that is just crime

[hard plume]

they can mega evolve, but it's unnatural to them

[plush atlas]

imagine if they just... make forms for Xernes and Yveltal like how Zygarde has one

[onyx elm]

Mega Noivern when

[plush atlas]

the real deal is when they make Mega Butterfree

[hard plume]

well, we do, but..

SAY IT WITH ME EVERYBODY

[iron bone]

Bad design

[hard plume]

IT'S NOT THE SAME

[steep crane]

why not : mega sunrock being the litteral SUN and mega lunatone being the litteral MOON

x)

[iron bone]

Did I say the right thing?

[hard plume]

no

you didn't

but your heart was in the right place

[onyx elm]

It is possible with Norse mythos as their base inspiration I can see Yveltal getting a new form more based on Odins Ravens and Xerneas getting one that’s Sliphneir Odins war horse

[hard plume]

(i have a soft spot for the gigas)

[hard plume]

isn't sliphnir loki's kid?

because I think zygarde would be more likely to have a sliphnir form than xerneas

[steep crane]

the 6 legged horse ?

[plush atlas]

wait isnt Zygarde Nidhogg if thats the case?

[hard plume]

yes.

the six legged horse is loki's kid

[iron bone]

I think they will introduce new legendary

Like they did in pLA

[hard plume]

Zygarde is Jörmungandr, Fenrir, and Hel

and a little bit of Nidhogg

[plush atlas]

which trio was it in Kalos again?

[hard plume]

filling in the missing piece!

[iron bone]

Bruh

[hard plume]

The Aura Trio

[iron bone]

https://tenor.com/view/froakie-pokemon-happy-excited-gif-7272966

No way you disrespected my boi

Oh you meant legendary

[hard plume]

I know. it's strange.
then again, all mythology is strange

[iron bone]

Oh

[plush atlas]

Im sorry to be disappointment, its 5am for me 😭

[iron bone]

They aura?

[steep crane]

and one of it's brother is a snake

[steep crane]

Yveltal/Xerneas/Zygarde

[hard plume]

One has fairy aura, the other has dark aura, and zygarde is the aura breaker

....hm

so what makes A then?

An aura... booster?

[iron bone]

Fan term not canon

[steep crane]

and the gen 6 mythicals are

[iron bone]

Big L

[pure salmon]

VGC in shambles if aura gets boosted

[hard plume]

The other two might not even been native to Kalos

[iron bone]

What do auras do

[hard plume]

Diancie? probably a kalos native

[plush atlas]

I JUST REALIZED DIANCIE

[iron bone]

Yeah

[iron bone]

Well no volcanion cuz the whole power plant thing

[onyx elm]

He is his 50% form is both Nidhogg and Jromungander, his Nidhogg is more on how he sees the world from the cave he lives in and how he knows everything

[hard plume]

movie canon is not game canon

[onyx elm]

One of the 4 kids he had yes, the other three are Zygarde’s other forms

[iron bone]

I’m talking game canon

How he was supposed to be in post game in power plant we couldn’t access

[plush atlas]

i wonder if there would be 200%

[iron bone]

Quick side trip

What quick good team for Kalos

[hard plume]

Volcanion probably broke into the power plant because

F--K SOLAR POWER

and humans

[iron bone]

There were the shut doors though

[hard plume]

it probably doesn't like humans

[hard plume]

volcanion don't care

[plush atlas]

volcanion hates human

[iron bone]

They a honey badger fr

[hard plume]

Maybe before the power plant was built, something else was there

Like a shrine or a certain place that Volcanion liked to be in

But then humans came around and wrecked shit

[umbral egret]

Super interesting to think we’re going to see a pre-modern Lumiose

[onyx elm]

Imagine we just get Thor as a Pokémon

[iron bone]

K is this good team

1. Greninja
2. Talonflame (or should I opt for Charizard)
3. Goodra
4. Tyrantrum
5. Heliolisk (or lucario)
6. Aigeslash or gogoat

[hard plume]

one of the starters or regional variants might answer that question, if they haven't

[onyx elm]

Maybe

[iron bone]

What team should I use

[plush atlas]

Aegislash, then Gogoat. no need for fire flying

[iron bone]

K what bout hawlucha

And why not

[plush atlas]

you get type covers for flying with aegislash, then fire with tyrantrum

or lucario with fire punch

[iron bone]

I don’t care about type coverage

[onyx elm]

Here’s my team, Garchomp (my ace and my boy). Tyrantrum, H Zoroark, Serperior or Funny frog, Purzerker, Trevenant

[plush atlas]

thats good solid team

[iron bone]

Oh no I meant for x and y

Gameplay

[plush atlas]

just saw the article, Z-A is for new switch models and in 2025

bruhhhhh

[iron bone]

They would also release it on old switch

[plush atlas]

id still buy the new one bcoz my current is laggy af

[pure salmon]

Yeah I may get the new model if games are compatible (should be?)

[iron bone]

Still though not caring about power or type coverage

What should I do

I want other opinions

[lapis cliff]

What Kalos Pokemon are you hoping get Mega's?

Really hoping for Aegislash even if it's extremely unlikely considering the decrease in base stats and his signature move getting weakened.

[plush atlas]

so what starters do you think we getting?

[plush atlas]

I would like them to pull a 180 on everyone and make mega sylveon

[lapis cliff]

Starter wise we are likely going to be getting older gen Pokemon starters if it's similar to Legends.

Hopefully no one who already has a Mega, so we can get some new ones

[lapis cliff]

I'd accept this happily if it means all the other Eeveelutions get one as well.

Maybe Turtwig, Totodile, Fennikin a quick guess for starters?

[opaque pivot]

1 mega for all eveelutions to share

[lapis cliff]

Actually thinking on it more maybe Tepig?

And have all the Kalos starters in the wild?

Like how they handled Shinoh starters in Legends

Although if they are willing to go up to Gen 7 Popplio might work better

Just because all the starters originally had dual typings in final Evo then if we are sticking to Fennikin

Really ideally you want something to make cohesive theoretically?

But I mean what did Cyndaqil, Oshawatt, and Rowlet have in common at all?

Popularity maybe? But it doesn't feel like a paritcularly pronounced one, so honestly hard to really predict anything

[onyx elm]

Species brought in by either the US, UK or the rest of Japan when Japan was finally opening back up to the world

[lapis cliff]

It changes the game more on if the starters get Mega's or just a Varient?

[onyx elm]

That and they are all based on old gods and legends

Anyways Womp womp

[pine ingot]

The reports of Mega Evolution's death have been greatly exaggerated.
And I'm glad

[opaque pivot]

My starter theory is gens 1, 4, and 8

[pine ingot]

if gamefreak doesnt do a empoleon kalosian form it will be the biggest letdown of all time because its literally france

[opaque pivot]

Gen 1 is Charizard so we can get mega charizard Z

Gens 2, 5, and 7 already got rep last game, gen 6 is unlikely based off PLA, and gen 9 was likely developed concurrently to this so those are out

I think gen 3 already having megas gives them less of a chance

[pine ingot]

Venusaur, Empoleon and Cinderace is who I hope ngl

[oak rivet]

Empoleon would feel pretty Correct.

[opaque pivot]

French

[pine ingot]

God please let Empoleon be the water he deserves greatness

BRING BACK HIS DEFIANT 😭

they gave him wave crash the same gen they ripped away defiant

[oak rivet]

The only problem is that any version of Empoleon that changes its secondary type would be giving it.... a worse type

Water/Steel is a fantastic type combo

[pine ingot]

true

[oak rivet]

What if we had Empoleon, Serperior, and Charizard

[pine ingot]

that'd also work

[unkempt egret]

water/steel just feels dubious in sinnoh because the E4 there just flings around so many fighting, fire, and ground moves

[oak rivet]

Yeah, but in any setting where you're not getting constantly slammed with fighting and ground, water/steel is A+

[past cairn]

anyone know any other really good pokemon fan games and wouldnt mind sending me a invite to the servers so i can check the games out

[lapis cliff]

What sort of game are you looking for exactly? A story? Excellent gameplay?

My first Pokemon recommendation now is usually Emerald Rouge, but as always there are different types of games you might want to play?

Unbound is decent as well especially for high difficulty gameplay without say losing your team as in Rouge, Academy Forever has a surprisingly good story and fun gameplay as a Visual Novel/Persona style game etc

[swift vector]

how did you originally find Volcanion and Hoopa? I never got them. I had moved onto the next pokemon games before they were added I think.

[iron bone]

Events

[swift vector]

I need to watch their films.

Ahh, thats why I didnt get them. Makes sense.

[iron bone]

Hoopa was more for oras while volcanion was for xy

[swift vector]

Even if we dont get every mon in PIF, I'd like to atleast see us go through and grab all legendaries. regardless of generation.

all legendaries and pseudos.

[sleek jewel]

Sup

I'm back XD

[scenic whale]

God bless gen 6 mythicals

They gotta be one of my favorite genres

[past cairn]

i definitely want there to be really fun gameplay i love the whole fusion gimmick here and a great story would be nice

[lapis cliff]

Hmm, issue is that IF is fun from an experimental gimick perspective, it's not hard at all even on higher difficulties generally speaking

Still if you want a different gameplay style Rouge or Academy Forever are the closer ones

AF isn't very hard either depending on choices, Rouge has an easy mode so it has a lot of accessbility

[past cairn]

as for difficulty like not too hard i dont wanna get stuck on a gym leader for hrs just to get a lucky crit and make it past cause my evs were wrong or smth and i dont want smth dirt ez

[lapis cliff]

It's just there are achievements/goals only available on Hard mode

[lapis cliff]

Oh yea Unbound absolutely isn't for you then

It's assuming your trying to EV train and later breed perfect IV's once the daycare comes out etc

And tries to make it difficult even for save scumming

Alright then between Rouge and AF then, how much do you want to care about the story/characters?

AF spents 80% of it's time not in Pokemon Battles

[past cairn]

yeah i dont wanna spend ages breeding and ev training just to play the game

[lapis cliff]

And late game outright has another totally different game thrown at you in Pseudo Mystery Dungeon

It's primarily a time management game, who do you hang with, what do you study etc

Very Persona like if you've ever played it

[past cairn]

i have not

[lapis cliff]

Alright, might be something you enjoy/might not, it's the most different, but I'd say try Emerald Rouge first, I'll send you an Invite to it's servers I suppose, but you can also use the Pokecommunity website

[past cairn]

thxxx

i just wanna like check it out see how it is ya know

thank u mate!

[lapis cliff]

Have fun, I'd recommend starting not touching any settings for your First round and seeing how far you get/how it goes, but easy mode is always an option, especially when you start going into the Mono challenges later on

[pine ingot]

It's fricking KALOS dude?!?!?! WTFF

[lapis cliff]

I'm personally a lot more hyped about Kalos? You Ko? Mega's are back after all

[pine ingot]

Honestly some cool stuff in that Presents, most of it for Pokémon fans of things I don't really play. Pkmn Cafe, Pokémon Masters, etc.. Made me think there was gonna be some sort of Masters anime with that sequence they showed, which was sick
The card game looks awesome as well and 2 free packs a day??? Sign me UP
The immersion ones. Just.. wow

[daring rock]

my favorite pokemon are back

my top 3 was all introduced in 6th gen

[pine ingot]

Oh hell yeah!
I wasn't expecting it, no one was. And that's what they're best at. Love them for that. Some cool new megas FINALLY will be so amazing. I don't really care which ones get the mega treatment, as long as they're cool. The starters whoever they are will for sure get megas

All I'm hoping for I think is Mega Flygon, which was mentioned here already. But I say this only because they were going to make it and then it got cut. So this is their chance to bring it back

[pine ingot]

I'm guessin Skrelp/Dragalge was one of em 👀

[daring rock]

ye:3

[lapis cliff]

For unlikely Mega's I desperately want, Aegislash is at the top of the list

Almost no chance of it happening, but I wish

[pine ingot]

some of my favs from there too. A lot from Alola actually despite not loving those games, but from Kalos I love Helioptile, even more than it's evo. I hope it gets a good final evo

[lapis cliff]

My mon, got a debuff in Sword and Shield, no justice whatsoever for him.

[pine ingot]

I wouldn't say that. It's perfectly possible. Don't count anyone out. Every Kalos mon has a fair chance

[daring rock]

my top 3 are two pokemon from hoenn that got megaevos and dragalge :)

[pine ingot]

rip

[daring rock]

so yep full 6th even if i think its easily one of the most boring games

[lapis cliff]

Only mon to ever get a Stat Debuff, and one of several that got Signature Move debuffs

[pine ingot]

I'm just sad we have to wait til 2025 man 😭 I hope it's early release, January just like Legends Arceus was

[lapis cliff]

Honestly I'm torn but am mostly postive about the wait

[daring rock]

only mon?

[pine ingot]

Cuz we have 10 full months to go mN

[lapis cliff]

More time means it's likely to be a higher quality game

[pine ingot]

True

[lapis cliff]

Yea, as far as I know, he's the only mon to ever get their base stats lowered

Several got it increased

[daring rock]

i know at least two

[pine ingot]

They do be rushing the main games. So the more they polish this up and flesh it out the better

[lapis cliff]

That said let's be honest, ability nerfs and signature moves weakened are honestly a far more impactful buff

[daring rock]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-shield-pokemon-plush-plush-plushie-gif-22905345

[lapis cliff]

Did Zacian get his stats changed?

[daring rock]

yep

[plucky linden]

I was going to ask about swearing rules, but I am playing it safe, my friend described the direct in a few seconds.

[lapis cliff]

Pretty sure it was just his ability changing to only proc once, rather than every switch?

[daring rock]

and zamazenta too

[lapis cliff]

Let me go check, honestly shocked I haven't heard of this

[pine ingot]

Still. Even if they're going out of order with these Legends games, I hope BW is after this one. Maybe getting ahead of myself. But yeah. It's the one I want the most...

[lapis cliff]

No your right

Same amount as well

20 Base Stats removed

[lapis cliff]

Just like Aegislash

10 in each defense stat for him, 20 attack for Zacian crowned, 10 in normal

[empty anvil]

yall excited about the new legends game

[lapis cliff]

Oh yea, very excited

It was even more than I hoped for

[pine ingot]

Extremely so

[plucky linden]

My friend summed up the director you go up.

[pine ingot]

I was sleepin thru it til I saw the end

[empty anvil]

i didnt expect zygard to be the next one

[coarse estuary]

i want another mega for a gen 5 mon in the new game as the 1 singular one we got was ass

[pine ingot]

I wasn't sure what that Animation sequence would be

[empty anvil]

i thought it would ve legends of kyrum

[lapis cliff]

Honestly not sure I care about Zygard

Was a lot more excited for Arceus

All I associate Zygard with is the hunt for him in Alola

[empty anvil]

bet we will get a 200% forme

[coarse estuary]

i think this game is about the great war and az floette not really zygarde

[empty anvil]

maybe]

arceus was more about palkia and dialga

[lapis cliff]

Mainly just because of the lore with Arceus beforehand, but there wasn't much on Zygarde, still that gives him more chance to potentially shine?

True, and I loved the Diamond/Pearl clans

[empty anvil]

yeah]

[pine ingot]

like some sort of new game? But in the back of my head I still thought it was Legends, but set in the future? I was seeing all these Kalos Pokémon. That building they sketched up even looked Kalosy, and then ofc. The Lumiose tower, what else

[lapis cliff]

Skyrocketed Dialga up the list of my favorite mons, and Palkia and Arceus to a certain extent

[plucky linden]

There is only one thing that would upset me…
If they introduced new megas but don’t include Flygon.

[empty anvil]

think there will be a deadlands area where they worship yeveltal and a really lush forest for xerneus

[lapis cliff]

Naming Dialga, Lord Shinoh still makes me chuckle a bit despite how stupid a joke it is

[empty anvil]

mega lapras would go hard

[lapis cliff]

No Kanto Mega's please

[empty anvil]

nha

[lapis cliff]

I love gen one, and it was my first gen but I think we had enough

[pine ingot]

I feel the same way tbh and the new forms in Sun and Moon were cool I guess. But I felt like it trivialized it a bit.
And between all the different forms, just none of them appeal to me

[empty anvil]

we getting reginal trubbish

[lapis cliff]

Only one I'll accept is Charizard for the Z memes

[empty anvil]

mewtwo z

[pine ingot]

Oh you know Charizard is getting one at the very least

[empty anvil]

definitely

[pine ingot]

Mewtwo is also a given. Those two are 100%

[empty anvil]

idk about mewtwo

[pine ingot]

The other 2 Kanto starters maybe?

[empty anvil]

idk if he would even exist

[pine ingot]

A futuristic Mewtwo mega or something

[lapis cliff]

I'll be surprised to see Mewtwo again, but he had almost no right to show up the first time so really I'm setting myself up here

[empty anvil]

he was made by team rocket in gen 1

[pine ingot]

Oh god I can't wait to see how cool the new style of megas will be

[lapis cliff]

At a guess we are making the modern city though, so likely this is quite a few years before Mewtwo was made

Granted not the first time they used time travel

[umbral egret]

I’m excited for the regional forms

[lapis cliff]

Just look at the distortion zones

Easily could see something similar spitting out Mewtwo so...

[empty anvil]

regional trubbishhhh

lets goo

[pine ingot]

Trueee

[plucky linden]

A mega I want is Dragapult! Yeah it’s a pseudo mega, but I love Dragapult dang it!

[lapis cliff]

Dragapult would be a cute one, I'd want something similar to Mega Kangaskhan honestly

[pine ingot]

Pseudo legendary, you mean? xD

[lapis cliff]

If perhaps weaker? A 10th of your attack with the main advantage being doubling chances of secondary effects procing?

[plucky linden]

Or a regional of it being alive and not dead yet.

[pine ingot]

Or...

[empty anvil]

What do you think the new regional starters will be

[lapis cliff]

Hard to say, it depends a lot I think on if the new starters get megas

Or just regional variants

If Mega's I'd want to disqualify every mon with a Mega instantly

[pine ingot]

Imma say.... Torchic, Bulbasaur and... Pickup? maybe Sobble

[lapis cliff]

Torchic and Bulbasaur have Mega's though

[hard plume]

The fans have decided that pippy and snivy are probably gonna be the starters

but who's gonna be the fire bro?

[pine ingot]

Fire/electric Blaziken yeeahhh jk they know we want that so I don't think they'll do it

Snivy would be cool

[hard plume]

litten, probaby

or cinderace

[lapis cliff]

Could go for Litten yea

[hard plume]

litten was my gen 7 BRO

[pine ingot]

A better Incineroar yes PLZ

[hard plume]

better incineroar?

dude he's f--king perfect

[umbral egret]

Litten and the 3rd stage is finally on four legs

[lapis cliff]

100 more Base Stats are hard to go wrong with though

[empty anvil]

im gonna go chimchar chicorita and pupleo

[plucky linden]

This is the most united I’ve seen Pokemon fans ever be just because we are left in here’s game bye bye.

[empty anvil]

just to be different

[modern osprey]

hi i havent been in pokemon fanmade community for a long time and was gonna get back into this one again and I was wondering if there are any fanmades that are at some of the older reigons (like any of the first five) but add new locations like ones from the anime that never made the original games

[pine ingot]

Also I do think they'll have regional forms. Just slapping megas on them and doing nothing else would be, idk, boring.
So even if they already have a mega, if it's a completely different form, I say it's fine

[lapis cliff]

Eh, kind of disagree there but that's fine

[atomic orchid]

Since it’s Kalos: Snivy (regal snake), Chimchar (based on monkey king), Totodile (I got nothing)

[pine ingot]

we uhhh talkin bout the Pokémon direct rn xD but maybe someone could help you

[hard plume]

we expected unova and johto, and we got kalos instead

I consider that a win

[lapis cliff]

Agreed, it needs it the most and comes with Mega's attached

[pine ingot]

SMe

[modern osprey]

i was just leaving it in here because its the channel that my question is for 😭

[pine ingot]

same*

[empty anvil]

unova and kalos are my favs

[modern osprey]

didnt wanna break any rules :p

[lapis cliff]

Um, Hacks like that do exist

[pine ingot]

I feel you. It might get pushed back tho lol

[lapis cliff]

What do you want exactly?

The orange islands since you mentioned the Anime?

[atomic orchid]

Because even GF wanted to get Pokémon Z out in some form after they were told to drop it for Gen 7

[lapis cliff]

Different game mechanics/Genre?

[hard plume]

and all the leakers are scrambling

[modern osprey]

that would be cool! i dont mind current game mechanics

and its so funny watching the pokemon direct today and everyone was wrong haha

[pine ingot]

Never trust a leaker whose name doesn't start with K or end in hu

[lapis cliff]

OK I think Pokemon Island was something like that, and the Anime game Ashgray or something?

[pine ingot]

just saying

[lapis cliff]

Let me google it and review

[pine ingot]

they all want attention and to stir up chaos in a bad way

[modern osprey]

ok thanks 🙂

[hard plume]

oh even he dropped the bag today

[pine ingot]

I remember playing Ashgray, it was fun

[atomic orchid]

Can I ask about the name though? I’ve seen split between Pokémon Z-A and Pokémon A-Z, which do you think it is?

[hard plume]

Pokemon Legends: Z-A

[modern osprey]

honestly im just glad we arent getting a subpar remake. Tho i didnt mind BDSP (unpopular ik) until the post-game

[pine ingot]

I haven't checked twitter. Maybe they're onto Khu. 😬😨

[modern osprey]

i need more to do haha

[hard plume]

they probably didn't want to deal with unity again

[modern osprey]

makes sense. im glad this game doesnt seem to be rushing

[lapis cliff]

OK reviewing Ashgray I don't think it's to far beyond Kanto, it does get to the movie 2,000 and is pretty jampacked?

[pine ingot]

Nintendo tweeted about it calling it Legends ZA
Some people are bein like "you have to call it Z TO A
And I really couldn't care less. I'm not calling it that lmao Imma just say Legends ZA

[lapis cliff]

https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/pokémon-ashgray-version-beta-4-5-released.180722/

Here's Ashgray for you to review

[hard plume]

I call it PLZA

[modern osprey]

ill take a look at that thank you 🙂

[hard plume]

or "Pokemon Plaza"

[lapis cliff]

Island had all 1000+ Pokemon
https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/pokémon-island-v2-1-gen-9-battle-vs-yourself-habitat-list-and-more.281807/

[atomic orchid]

Legends ZA pronounced like Pizza

[pine ingot]

PLZ A 😂

[lapis cliff]

Think those are the animeish games, there's Adventure Red but that's Manga

[hard plume]

also unity decided to tax developers so that's also a no go

[lapis cliff]

Forget if there's other popular ones?

[pine ingot]

Pokémon Pizza (pronounced like pizazz)

[modern osprey]

i also gotta remember how to properly download the infinite fusion updates but thats not for this channel lol

[atomic orchid]

OMG they literally called their supposed “last chance to keep the dissatisfied fans” PLZ

[pine ingot]

Idk how a person can make something so beautiful and innovative then make literally everyone and their mothers hate them

It's really sad

[atomic orchid]

CEO made the decision the same day as his retirement announcement. I’m not surprised

[pine ingot]

fr they bein like puhhleeeaaaassuhhh

[hard plume]

it's pronounce PLZA

[atomic orchid]

No it’s PLZ🙏

[pine ingot]

I vow from this day forward to always pronounce it as "Puhhleeeaaaassuhhh short for Pokémon Legends ZA"

[atomic orchid]

Actually calling it like “Plaza” would make sense considering the Lumiose Development video

Apparently NOA tweeted the game will take entirely in Lumiose City. So either we’ll be able to circumnavigate the city in <10 mins or it’ll be expanded to the size of a region.
I just hope we’ll be able to enter more building than just cafes/hotels/important areas if that’s the case

[hard plume]

The latter seems more likely, since real life Paris has, like, multiple quadrants

20 of them to be precise

All named

And they each have a mayor

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrondissements_of_Paris

In X and Y, we probably only experienced a small piece of thr city

[atomic orchid]

I guess that WAS technically the start/end of the “chibi years” (depending on if you count the pixel years as part of that era)
So it would make more sense for the game to be expanded

[hard plume]

Each sector would probably be considered the equivalent to one town/city

And there are 20 of them.

The whole of Luminose is probably comparable to one whole region

Gives me hope for other pokemon regions with big cities

Would be pretty fun to explore the whole of Castella or Wyndon

Maybe they would have their own section of gyms and activities to do

[hard plume]

ALRIGHT. F--K IT. SPECULATION TIME.

Let's analyze the f--k out of these sectors.

[pure salmon]

Feel like the game's climax is gonna be on Lumiose Tower

[glad gale]

Just started Moon black today on my first file i got to castelia then i accidently wiped my only save so yeah beeg oof

[pure salmon]

Speculating wildly is the pokemon community's forte @hard plume

[sleek jewel]

@coarse estuary I have a question do you know any rom hacks of pokemon emerald the remake one? Like pokemon luminescent platinum?

[hard plume]

Unlike most, I go all the way.

1. Louvre: Lowest populated area of Paris. The Tuileries Garden caught my eye. I suspect a lot of grass and fairy types partying in here.
2. Bourse: PASSAGES. FOR. DAYS. Nothing much here, but I also noticed a lot of theatres. Is this the return of the Pokemon Musicals?
3. Temple: Museum and gardens. Might be another wild pokemon area.
4. Hôtel-de-Ville: Home of the Notre Dame!
5. Panthéon: Lots of Churches and Colleges here. Must be the knowledge sector.
6. Luxembourg: The shopping and art sector. This is where you might buy clothes and other accessories in the game.
7. Palais-Bourbon: Oh this sounds like "big serious area" territory. I mean, its the home of one of the wonders of the world! How can it NOT be a final boss locale, or at least the main hub?
8. Élysée: Home of the Arc de Triomphe and the Place de la Concorde. Might also be part of the main hub area.
9. Opéra: I got nothing. It probably might be clumped together with the Bourse section with all these theatres and museums.
10. Entrepôt: Home of two railways, which would defintely be useful in a game like this.
11. Popincourt: PARTY CITY.
12. Reuilly: This place contains one of the oldest remnants of human presense. Fossil section?
    Sections 13-20 got built later on in 1860, so I'm gonna say that these are unlockable areas.

If anyone has any further information about these 20 sectors, let me know.

[sleek jewel]

add 13 that lays you are lazy to read all of that

[hard plume]

I actually was planning to add 13-20!

however, I don't have discord nitro

[sleek jewel]

then add 21 XD

[pure salmon]

Always thought it was weird how many parisian landmarks old Lumiose was missing

[hard plume]

But, since you asked....
13. Gobelins: Doesn't seem to have much. Has a large asian community, but the first vietnamese immigration didn't happen until the 70s. I'll consider the 70s as a cut off point. I have no idea what this area would be in the game world.
14. Observatoire: Home of the Gare Montparnasse, another major railway. This will help with transporting into the later unlocked areas.
15. Vaugirard: Home of the Wallace fountains, as well as later fountains that were built beyond the cut off point. Did you know that Paris has an ass ton of fountains? Because they do!
16. Passy: The Arc de Triomphe is also there! It's also part of the 9th and 17th sector. Let's consider the Arc as some sort of major landmark/checkpoint. The rich people live here. Oh who am I kidding. There's plenty of areas where rich people live.
17. Batignolles-Monceau: Nothing much here, aside from the Square des Épinettes. Seems like another wild area.
18. Butte-Montmartre: ART DISTRICT. Lots of Famous Artists made their mark here. The Sacré-Cœur also exists here.
19. Buttes-Chaumont: CANALS, BABEEEY. I bet the canals would be where all the fish mons would live.
20. Ménilmontant: Home of the Père Lachaise Cemetery. Sooo yeah. Ghost type zone.

And with that, I got all the 20 sectors done. Again, if anyone has more information about Paris and the 20 sectors, let me know.

[hard plume]

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-skeleton-damn-bro-you-gif-25852196

[hard plume]

YEAH IT'S CRAZY, RIGHT??

We only got to see a small portion of the city!

There's so much territory that can be covered, and that's why I'm so excited about a game that takes place in a big ass city!

[pure salmon]

Yeah like the only landmark we see is eiffel tower stand in

I think an important thing is always knowing that video game cities are VERY limited by hardware

[coarse estuary]

i mean there is stuff like star sapphire or sinking sapphire other than that idk any

[hard plume]

The Spider-Man Playstation games are probably the best use of city exploration
because its only one city

[pure salmon]

but as a whole region in itself Lumiose might be enough

[hard plume]

It would be so cool!! 🙂

[brittle crane]

they've got a year, let's hope they do it well

[pure salmon]

I'm very glad they're taking their time with this one

[hard plume]

ok who did these leg images and where's their socials

because I want to personally thank them

[atomic orchid]

I’ve seen the Zygarde before around the internet but it was never credited

[pure salmon]

Oh my god

Givin the ol razzle dazzle

[sleek jewel]

can i review them?

[coarse estuary]

what you you mean review them?

[sleek jewel]

to see whats the difference

[coarse estuary]

i mean you can easily find them via google searching to see whats different between them and the base oras

[sleek jewel]

between alpha sapphire

[sleek jewel]

but no emerald version?

[hard plume]

there is no emerald version in oras

unless you're talking about the delta episode

[coarse estuary]

there is no oras rom hack that has the story of emerald.

[sleek jewel]

🥲

[hard plume]

i just had a thought

it was about paradox pokemon and their relation to Z-A

what if we aren't getting just megas

what if we are getting fusions/hybrids (like iron valiant) too?

(note: this is a wild ass theory, so don't take it as gospel)

[atomic orchid]

That all depends on if this is time travel related or not I guess. From what it sounds like, we’ll be building towards Lumiose’s future, not exploring the past this time

Unless this is pre-lumiose’s creation and we’re starting from the ground up

[coarse estuary]

the way i thoguth it based on the title was this game was going to be either before durring or after the great war az explains about in xy and something to do with him and his eternal floette

[pure salmon]

That would be wild

[pallid mauve]

all i know is

some people think it is dead before release

the game seemingly takes place entirely in Lumiose

[hard plume]

so, our actions in the past will affect the future?

that's an intriguing idea to explore

[hard plume]

probably after the great war

[atomic orchid]

Either that or we’re going to help expand Lumiose into the future.

Maybe we cause an environmental disaster and that’s how Zygarde gets involved? (Personal theory)

[coarse estuary]

i mean that was explored in legends arceus as it showed how mt coronett got destoryed as when you get to it in dppt its already destoryed

[hard plume]

regardless, I can't wait for some time loop schenanigans and memes of
"uhh boss"
"i f--ked up"
(shows a city in disrepair and everything burning as a giant creature wrecks things)

[atomic orchid]

We don’t even know if time travel is involved

The teaser made it seem like modern day development (hence the wireframe/virtual look)

[hard plume]

and the film reel ending

which means the past

I studied that trailer to death

[atomic orchid]

Maybe I should check the trailer again. I saw it literally as soon as I woke up😅

Also screw YouTube

When I was going through that, the entire sidebar was “reacting to Pokémon A-Z”

Before I even started watching!

(And yes I know it’s Z-A, but that’s what the videos were titled)

[hard plume]

What I think is interesting is that we follow a talonflame that turns into a fletchling

[atomic orchid]

…

We do?

This is why I need to see it again

[hard plume]

GOD I LOVE THE SPECULATION

THIS IS FUN

I LIKE THIS

[twilit hazel]

This shit brings me back to 2013, back when people were drawing up their potential wants for new Megas, like Mega Klinklang

[atomic orchid]

Bringing me back to the roots of pre-Gen 7 when speculation was a thing and not just “we saw the leak already”

I still remember people freaking over N’s stupid puzzle box going “what happens when he solves it?”

[hard plume]

plus, it gave me time to run around and learn about paris!

[severe birch]

I just realized that even though people are getting excited that gamefreak is seemingly taking more time to make games, that is literally not the case and Gen 8 and 9 development cycles are exactly the same

Gen 8: sword and shield end 2019, final dlc end 2020, bdsp end 2021 (not developed by gamefreak), legends arceus start 2022

Gen 9: scarlet violet end 2022, final dlc end 2023, no gamefreak games 2024, new legends start 2025

So 2025 will likely be legends start of year and new game end of year

[unkempt egret]

it's just that it's been shifted a month or two

which is just enough to fool people that aren't paying close enough attention

[severe birch]

I don’t actually think it will be Gen 10 2025, since no new game this year likely indicates gamefreak isn’t outsourcing remakes anymore and Gen 10 will be 2026 for 30th anniversary with black and white remakes next year

[umbral egret]

i mean... the mega sound literally played in the trailer

[hard plume]

AS HINTS.

should've been clearer with that

[atomic orchid]

Agreed that Gen X will be held off till the 30th. Disagree that we’ll get BW remakes before then, otherwise we’d have had an announcement already. They likely won’t release two games in a year considering how poorly received SV was in the same year as Legends Arceus and PLZA is already slated for 2024.

[vocal plover]

i decided to try a kaizo ironmon. first try got super unlucky somehow not 1 but 2 of the starters had truant. my second run on the other hand i started with a drizzle special attacker scyther with octazooka

[pine ingot]

GAMEFREAK GIVE ME MEGA EXCADRILL, EMPOLEON, PANGORO/TOXICROAK AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

We need peak designs

I’m desperate

[atomic orchid]

Boy if you thought megas were “peak designs” I’m sorry. Every Gen has good and bad, there is no peak

[vocal plover]

so i lost to roxanne and uhhh this is quite unfortunate

[atomic orchid]

REVENGE

[vocal plover]

wtf are the chances

GODDAMMIT I HAVE TO RE-RANDOMIZE

HUGE POWER IS ONE OF 3 ABILITIES THAT IS BANNED

[onyx elm]

Peak was Goomy and Deino

[vocal plover]

true deino line on top

[onyx elm]

https://tenor.com/view/deino-pokemon-dark-dragon-cute-gif-17759904

[vocal plover]

hydreigon is my favorite pokemon oat

[onyx elm]

Fun fact the original design for them was gonna be tanks

The only thing left of the original design is there belly marks

Which are tank treads

[vocal plover]

Very next ironmon run my rival has an ivysaur with mind reader and thunder. I chose vaporeon

[jolly vapor]

I just want to learn more about az and zygarde

[onyx elm]

Ya gotta wait till we get more info :>

Or just go on Reddit

[icy idol]

It would be cool if we got a mega golisopod in this game

[jolly vapor]

yeah new megas new Pokémon’s maybe new kalos forms

[icy idol]

What Pokémon would you want to get a new mega?

[jolly vapor]

flygon

[atomic orchid]

Galvantula

[vocal plover]

Hydreigon

My Boi deserves one

[atomic orchid]

I just want representation for my big fluffy spider. I’m not even a spider freak, but Joltik is in my top 3 mins ever

[icy idol]

Electric spider supremacy!

[jade crypt]

Luxray cuz it's my favorite pokemon. Flygon has definitely been a wanted one too. Megas for gens 4-7 would definitely be cool, I think it's more likely to be 5-7 tho since gen 4 just got lots of attention with BDSP and Legend Arceus. And I absolutely hate spiders but I actually really like Joltik and Galvantula so it would be cool.

[atomic orchid]

Idk about Gen 7 but I can assume some more Gen 6 megas and wish for Gen 5 love since that has the least rep lately.

[icy idol]

Man I would ask for a bolthound mega evolution because it seems so incomplete and it’s just asking for another evolution but then I remember we have another electric dog mega

Maybe it might get a regional variant with a third Evo?

[jade crypt]

I think a little gen 7 is possible but not necessarily likely. 5 and 6 are a lot more likely especially 6 since that is what this game is based on. Gen 5 has received a little bit of attention with the S/V dlc but it definitely needs more.

[lapis cliff]

Legends ZA is slated for 2025 and in my personal opinion is likely to be around March if it does come out around the time of Switch 2.

[marble hinge]

TIL Smogon has a whole metagame for fakemons they've been taking submissions for since like DP
I particularly like this dude
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/astrolotl/

[atomic orchid]

switch2 has beeen rumored for three years now. If it does come in 2025, I’d still put money on PLZA coming out in November for the holiday rush. Effectively making it a launch title in name only

[marble hinge]

as for ZA

I'm really hoping on any of the sinnoh 3 for one fo the starters

Torterras my favorite starter of all time so I'd love to see a Mega Torterra, but also a Mega Infernape would be fucking amazing

[atomic orchid]

My thoughts are Serperior, Empoleon, and idk Delphox?

[pine ingot]

Anyway as I was saying over in #gener al

The A in the Z-A logo is the ultimate weapon before it opened

[atomic orchid]

I had to recheck the logo, but you’re not wrong

[pine ingot]

Now that kalos is getting a legends game I wonder how they’ll address the BW sequels

And the ultra version of the alola games

And then eventually the Sword and shield dlc

[hard plume]

interesting!

[pine ingot]

The lore with this game finna slap

[hard plume]

perhaps the A legendary will have a connection to this machine

[atomic orchid]

There is no A. Only XYZ… unless you mean pokegod

[pine ingot]

This is what I saying yesterday

The theme of these games being set in Lumiose city is both past and future

You have the standard sketch of the city’s new development plan from back before Lumiose became what it was today

And then the more futuristic looking blueprint

This is a gen 9 game after all I wouldn’t be surprised if it really was going from future kalos to past kalos

Hence why the game is entirely within Lumiose city

It does say Lumiose REdevelopment plan and not just development

Soooooo this leaves the door open for it being both past and future

[vernal garnet]

Do any of yall in places other than australia get these thingies from Coles?

[uncut fog]

What is The best and safest way to download fan pokemon games?

[silver gazelle]

Find the 'official' forum site they were posted in or if they have one, find their discord, those are guaranteed to be the original downloads

Pokecommunity and Relic Castles are to name a few

[north vessel]

will we finally know who was in Paris in this game? ...probably not, but i hope so

[uncut fog]

Thank you! Appreciate The help

[north vessel]

()

[uncut fog]

Btw what do you mean official forum site they were posted in

[silver gazelle]

Like the original place they were posted

[uncut fog]

How do you know where that is

Or find out where it is

[north vessel]

also, gotta love how the only 2 Legends game release are in my two favourite regions, Sinnoh and Kalos (even if they're not officially called like that yet)

[silver gazelle]

Just have to find the forum post unfortunately, but should be easy by just searching it up

[uncut fog]

Oh wow

Ok will try in The discord you mentioned

Thanks!

[past cairn]

does anyone know any other fan games that has a discord so i can safely download em and ask some questions about the game before i do

[silver gazelle]

Goodluck o/

Pokewilds? theres a lot of fangames that probably has their own discord

[past cairn]

i aslo dont really know any besides the super hard ones and i dont wanna go through them 😂

[silver gazelle]

LOL

Any specific games you're trying to find?

[past cairn]

not really as long as its fun and not too easy but at the same time i shouldnt have to do breeding and all that teambuilding stuff for a casual playthrough of it

[silver gazelle]

I played Eon Guardians before, its fun and can be played casually, even have trainers to help with EVs grinding if you want, they have a discord server

[past cairn]

whats it about?

[uncut fog]

Thank you!

[silver gazelle]

Kinda your generic Pokemon story with Qol stuff and difficulty settings, cant explain stuff too well, but I can link the Relic Castle post

am I allowed to link stuff in this server

[past cairn]

i think so as long as its not like ur twiitch or smth

worse case scenario ill take the blame c:

[silver gazelle]

Understandable lmao
https://reliccastle.com/threads/5445/

[past cairn]

do u have any other fangames i could ttake a look at?

[silver gazelle]

https://reliccastle.com/ultralite/page-2#posts

I can't remember much from the top of my head other than maybe Emerald Rogue?

[past cairn]

i checked out emerald rouge's server and i didnt really think i was gonna like it cause a run of the game is 4-5hrs and theres 25 quests u can do so that can take from 200-300 hrs apparently if u wanna 100% the game it just didnt seem my cup of tea

plus permadeath i didnt like the thought of

[silver gazelle]

I've played it, it's fun to do in the off time, understandable for you to be put off by it, having to redo something over and over can be boring for peeps

[past cairn]

yeah and it seems like its way too fast pased like as soon as u get use to having this team with u ur already at the E4 and boom ur done scrap the team u just finished bonding with and start anew

oh wait there was this one based off u being a gym leader does that have a discord?

[silver gazelle]

This Gym Of Mine? Unfortunately not but you can ask the forum for help instead
https://reliccastle.com/threads/2306/

[past cairn]

oh so reliccastle is like a reliable scource for fan game stuff

[silver gazelle]

yeah, easy to find fangames there

[past cairn]

sweet

[past cairn]

whats some of yalls favourite fan games besides this?

[radiant raptor]

Emerald rogue is pretty fun. I’m not good at it but still

[north vessel]

that one with the Lugia and Phione seems fun, a little repetitive for being a roguelike, but it's the best roguelike fangame i've seen

[past cairn]

i dont really thing i would like a rougelike tbh

[finite ingot]

My own
||you'll have to wait a few years if you want to play anything though||

[pine ingot]

Yo what if you travel between times but not as a time traveling character. Rather, as the VIEWER. The player. You swap between characters and it's in chapters right, so if anyone's familiar with the old Heroes of Olympus book series, how they switched between all the main characters' perspectives

And you could either have a completely different team in each side, which wow that would be a breath of very refreshing air. I don't think I've ever even seen a FANGAME do that. Or with some kind of future technology, you can send it back and forth and you're kinda like penpals beyond time It would even be implemented in the story early on, which would mean you have to start in the future cuz you gotta pick the starter. Then seeing the before in the next chapter would be cool

Tho I do like the first theory better of two separate teams
And honestly I hope it's not just one character traveling between the times. It feels too predictable and idk. I wouldn't like it as much. Feels a bit forced, no?

Also is it OK if I share your comments I'm responding to, to show what I'm goin off of and credit you, or would you prefer if I color over your name? 🤔

Imma drop this theory/speculation in my main discord

[brisk hedge]

Well this is a surprise

[pine ingot]

It’s fine to share!

All good dude

You don’t need to colour over my name

Cool! ^_^

[autumn wyvern]

Nintendo is suing Yuzu

[unkempt egret]

Cease & Desist (dire)

[vocal plover]

i'm not shocked

at least retroarch is safe. for now

[scenic whale]

The what?

[autumn wyvern]

Yuzu is a Nintendo switch emulator.

[warm rose]

my predictions for starters in Pokémon Legends Z-A is
Meowscarada, Cinderace and Empoleon

[pine ingot]

Oh my@god Pokémon cease and Pokémon desist ARE releasing 😍

[warm rose]

if u wanna know why, i will gladly share it

[unkempt egret]

new legendary form of cobalion: cobanlion

[acoustic torrent]

I think meowscadra is too new to be in AZ

[warm rose]

then let me explain my reasoning

i would expect the starters to not already have a mega evolution, since kalos is all about megas
ruled out: gen 1 and 3

[pine ingot]

It’s probably gonna be a gen 3, 1 and 4 starter

[pine ingot]

Oh wait

Actually

[warm rose]

i would expect the starter not to be from the same region (same as last game)
ruled out: gen 6

[pine ingot]

The unowns in the trailer spelled “See you ?” With the 2nd, 5th and 6th letter rearranged

They might have one of the starters be from gen 6 but it’s unlikely

They’ll definitely double dip one of the generations they already used in legends arceus though

[warm rose]

i would expect the starter not to be from the same gen as a mon from the previous legends game
ruled out: gen 2, 5 and 7

[pine ingot]

But gen 1 and 3 have already had megas

Meaning their options are gen 4, 8 and @9

[warm rose]

yes

thats what i said

and since kalos is france themed

empoleon

thats the water

[pine ingot]

Yeah this was my line of thinking too

[warm rose]

france is also all about soccer, so cinderace

[pine ingot]

They’ll probably take scorbunny from gen 8 and have it become a knight or something

[warm rose]

which leaves grass gen 9 starter

meowscarada

[pine ingot]

France has some history with masquerade balls don’t they?

[warm rose]

which is why my predictions for starters in Pokémon Legends Z-A is
Meowscarada, Cinderace and Empoleon

[pine ingot]

I’m still thinking we’ll get fire /steel, water/fighting and grass/fairy

[acoustic torrent]

so by elimination of theories you end up with meowscadra

[pine ingot]

Water/fighting because napoleon was a general

Fire/Steel because idk

Grass/fairy masquerade ball gown cat

[warm rose]

but yeah meowscarada is also about those things, no?

[pine ingot]

Yeah that’s why I’m saying it’s likely

[warm rose]

so the elimination process also fits

[acoustic torrent]

I highly believe chespin will be the grass starter

[pine ingot]

I’m sure chespin will be available somewhere in the game

[warm rose]

a kalos starter in a legends kalos game? smh

[pine ingot]

As a starter I do doubt that though

[acoustic torrent]

remember the fun part about kalos starter

greninja got a new form

leaving the others in the dark

[warm rose]

yes, yes.

so we have the perfect starters

i hope its correct

[pine ingot]

I pray this is spot on

I just really want a fire/steel starter

PLEASE GAME FREAK MANIFEST FIRE/STEEL CINDERACE

They’d have another water/fighting bird starter but that’s details

In the same generation actually

[warm rose]

grass fairy meowscarada would be awesome ngl

[pine ingot]

But they followed hisuian typhlosion with skeledirge so like whatever

[pine ingot]

I’m praying it’s real

[warm rose]

legends z-a gonna be gen 9?

probably tbh

since arceus also was gen 7

8*

[acoustic torrent]

wdym

[warm rose]

legends arceus was gen 8 along with swsh

[vocal plover]

this is the first rival battle. yes getting to level 20 was needed as before now i could only dmg him with bind cause they gave my rival a volt absorb mewtwo

[warm rose]

and milk is saying same generation cuz legends z-a is probably gonna be gen 9 aswell

[hard plume]

plus, scorbunny is a white rabbit

and I think scorbunny would look really cool with an alice in wonderland styled evo

[warm rose]

wonder what mega cinderace is gonna look like

Noway

[vocal plover]

what

oh god i think the games broken. scizor used ariel ace and the health bar just keeps going down and refilling itself

[warm rose]

simplified (and in one image) reasoning for those 3

[pine ingot]

I’m putting all my stocks into these predictions

[warm rose]

Same

If we are correct that would be hype

[warm rose]

when do they usually reveal starter

[hard plume]

give it a few months

[iron bone]

I think snivy will be in Sprigatito is place instead

There’s no way they would use the most recent starters for it

Anyway does anyone here play pokemon masters ex

[tulip ruin]

I do occasionally

[coarse estuary]

time for champion lance in my hg playthrough

lance beaten 1/2 the way done

[iron bone]

How did you get slowking on ds if the trading services are down?

[coarse estuary]

have you heard of 2 consoles trading between them locally without internet?

[iron bone]

That’s assuming I have someone to do that with

[coarse estuary]

no. because all you need is 2 consoles and 2 copies of any gen 4 game which i have

[iron bone]

I don’t have two ds’s

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sad-gif-22657112

[tropic hinge]

I disagree with the megas restriction, mostly because the original starters from Kalos didn't get megas. I agree with the rest of the reasoning, and agree with Raptor about Serperior in place of Meowscarada.

[coarse estuary]

well a regular ds and a 3ds also works as 3ds systems can play ds games

[iron bone]

Ayyy

https://x.com/soulsilverart/status/1762644143556174296?s=46&t=hWEZWCcyqIS5ijkJ1odWCg

SoulSilverArt (@soulsilverart) on X

If I’m wrong & they do use Pokémon that already have Megas-Snivy,Torchic,& Piplup were shown in the SV DLC starter reveal trailer-alongside the 3 previous PLA starters.
On top of this these 3 make the most sense for a French region
-Snivy:Inspired by French royalty…

Twitter · Feb 28, 2024, 1:01 AM

Although I don’t agree with torches

For chic

AUTOCORRECT WHY

TORCHIC

actually torchic would be understandable since it was event mega and first mega in anime…..but I’d rather hope it was something else

[tropic hinge]

That... Has potential.

[iron bone]

Don’t get me wrong I’d rather have something other than torchic

But if they did I could see why

[pine ingot]

This has merit but I doubt they’d use torchic

[pine ingot]

A couple of months from now

[hard plume]

https://tenor.com/view/muppetwiki-muppet-wiki-muppets-muppet-miss-piggy-gif-5166935470846053524

[pine ingot]

Hello

[hard plume]

I THINK I KNOW WHAT THIS "A" LEGENDARY IS ABOUT

[pine ingot]

It’s the ultimate weapon, No?

[hard plume]

it might be connected to that, but here me out

The "A" legendary not only would be representative of Yggdrasil, but it might also be a physical manifestation of ETERNITY.

I came up with this because the Aura trio reminded me of the three fates

one spins the thread of life (Xerneas)
one measures the thread (Zygarde)
And one cuts the thread (Yveltal)

The Yggdrasil legendary would represent the thread itself

I even gave it a name
Aeternil or Aeternai

And that reminded me of the word "Aeon"

I think the game is going to allow us to see the "thread" of Luminose City, as well as the "threads" of the people that built it and so forth.

And how it relates to the ultimate weapon?

[pine ingot]

Fascinating

[hard plume]

It is powered by that legendary.

It could be a grass type because the weapon needs sunlight and a lot of energy to become usable.

It gives life, extends life, and takes away life using the three guardians as conduits.

[pine ingot]

I hope your theories are spot on because this is really good

I’m gonna be real@im going into this game with my@expectations set at absolute 0

God why did that send teice

[hard plume]

Well I did predict that the professor would be behind the two legendaries

[pine ingot]

So just like what they did with legends Arceus where they added a fourth member to the genies, you think they’ll add a “third member” to the aura trio?

Fourth member

[hard plume]

I'd say "trio master"

[pine ingot]

Why did I write third

[pine ingot]

The Arceus to their Dialga, Palkia and Giratina

[hard plume]

Much like how Arceus is the trio master to Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina

[hard plume]

exactly!

[pine ingot]

Same wavelength

Here’s to hoping then lol

[pine ingot]

So it’s very likely this legendary is what was used to power the ultimate weapon then

Thematically it would make some amount of sense

[hard plume]

This is furthered by the fact that two of of the key components to making it run is one of the legendaries and the power plant

which is powered by solar energy

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

[pine ingot]

Sabrina you’re cooking something absolutely magical here

[hard plume]

PLUS IT LOOKS LIKE A F--KING FLOWER

[pine ingot]

Aaaaaaand the A in the logo has a leaf pattern on it

It makes sense too since in the trailer you see a talonflame evolve backwards

Gen 6 was all about new beginnings, hell the Gen 3 remakes were called Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire. Omega first then Alpha. End before beginning again. Z to A

We’re absolutely gonna be riding the thread of lumiose

[pure salmon]

yeah no this may be one of the most intriguing titles to make theories for in a while

[iron bone]

Imagine if they make AZ’s flowette the legendary

[hard plume]

I'd say that AZ's flowette is another key to the puzzle

[iron bone]

I meant it more of a joke

[hard plume]

..AND HIS KEY IS REMENISENT TO TREE BRANCHES

[iron bone]

Xerneas

=

Tree

[iron bone]

Counterpoint. Xerneas is tree of life

Stated to be

https://tenor.com/view/rpx_syria-mic-drop-gif-19149907

It’s dormant state is tree

[hard plume]

not really

[iron bone]

(Btw this all joking stuff, anything possible

[hard plume]

if it expels too much energy, it becomes a tree

its not its dormant state

[iron bone]

I’m sry for using the wrong terminology but you could infer what I meant

[iron bone]

What I meant

I’m just saying some things may not go deep

[hard plume]

but its more of a tree that is dead and hollow

[iron bone]

K I get it I used the wrong terms, but it becomes tree

Also called tree of life in pokemon movie, I’m just saying the theory could have holes in it I’m pointing out jokingly

[hard plume]

what I think is funny is that xerneas turns into a dead tree once it exausts its power while yveltal absorbs so much life energy that it turns into a cocoon

which reminds me of a seed

[iron bone]

I’m just saying I don’t think we’ll get another tree like pokemon

[hard plume]

you never know!

[iron bone]

But I could be wrong

Btw they better make diancie not single event and actually be coded into game like deoxys in ORAS

[pine ingot]

Dear game freak. Please give Haxorus a dragon/steel mega for PLXA

[pine ingot]

Honestly

Considering what the aura trio represents

And they represent a LOT

I’m assuming the new trio master is just going to be a representation of energy in its purest form

[iron bone]

Ye

[pine ingot]

When Xerneas dies it becomes a hollow tree, inert, unmoving, essentially exhausted its power

Whereas when Yveltal dies it absorbs the life force of everything around it and becomes a cocoon, slowly waiting and rebuilding itself

When Xygarde dies, it splits itself into 100 pieces that litter the world

The 4th Pokémon is the energy that exists between these changes in entropy

And these games are all about cycles and shit

Holy shit wait I’m actually onto something

We know Yveltal and Zygarde represent the dragon that eats at Yggdrasil’s roots and the eagle that lives in the tree’s branches

So the assumption was always that Xerneas represented Yggdrasil itself

Which is still very possible and is probably still the case

But there are also 4 stags that live in Yggdrasil

And a squirrel called Ratatosk

If we are correct in the assumption that this 4th Pokémon represents transfer of energy and the renewal of cycles from the final stage of entropy, hence time travel, then the 4th Pokémon is likely based on Ratatosk, as it passes up and down the trunk of the tree telling the eagle and the dragon vicious things they have said about each other, keeping a sort of ongoing chaos in Yggdrasil

A squirrel that maintains a cycle and also literally travels up and down the tree representing all of existence? Grass type squirrels legendary confirmed pack your bags yall

Additionally this explains how the timeline split when mega evolutions were created, the thread was split in half after our A legendary’s power was used to fuel the original ultimate weapon, the raw power of the legendarys energy was so immense it created mega evolution and split the timeline. I’ve solved PLXA I’m just that good

Also the three Norns who represent past, present and future live in Yggdrasil too so you just know these also inspired the A Pokémon

@hard plume you’ve inspired me

[atomic orchid]

There is no guessing as to this hypothetical 4th. Xerneas is Yggdrasil, Yveltal is the bird above (forget the name) and Zygarde represents Niddhogg, the dragon chewing on the roots. Only one left is Ratatosk who would carry messages (mostly insults to stir up drama) between the bird and dragon.
Though never understood why they swapped the bird and dragon’s motifs. The dragon was the one that represented death while the bird represented the wrath of nature iirc

[sleek jewel]

Yay :D/

[hard plume]

Xerneas represents the deer that hanged out at the trunk of Yggdrasil

not the tree itself

The deer in question is Eikþyrnir and the four other deer that eat near Yggdrasil's branches: Dáinn, Dvalinn, Duneyrr and Duraþrór.

[atomic orchid]

That’s a new one to me

I admit defeat in that case

[hard plume]

https://encyclopediamythologica.com/eikthyrnir

[oblique citrus]

what are some hacks or fangames can I get a cosplay pikachu in? besides radical red

[faint wren]

pokemon insurgence

[oblique citrus]

that's the one with delta forms right? never been too interested in those but I might as well give it a shot

[scenic whale]

Now that i realize, we might be able to get cosplay pikachu in ZA

[faint wren]

I dont think so

the cosplay pikachu are also only in ORAS

cuz of Contests

Theyre not in XY

[sleek jewel]

Any guesses what happened?

[faint wren]

this game is a buggy mess

as much as I love it it does have problems

[sleek jewel]

I was hoping funnier answers XD

[signal pivot]

This should be an ARG

real

[sleek jewel]

Yeah

[hard plume]

your store has probably went into another dimension

wait a couple minutes and it'll come back to you

[sleek jewel]

That's not mine XD

[hard plume]

well then I don't know what to tell ya

[sleek jewel]

Wow it looks bigger inside

[hard plume]

you playing this on a computer/emulator my guy?

[sleek jewel]

.....................................................no

[median hornet]

My team in Pokemon Royal

[hard plume]

I can see the window bar, bro

[median hornet]

And my team in Pokemon Nightmare

[sleek jewel]

Idk what you're talking about

[sleek jewel]

Nightmare?

[iron bone]

I’m starting to think I’m the only one who likes origin form palkia’s design

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-legends-arceus-origin-form-gif-24997282

[hard plume]

i'm a fan of origin palkia's design as well

it's a big ol space centaur

plus I have a shiny version of it so it's like

[warm rose]

I have shiny origin dialga🤩

[jade crypt]

I like both forms of Palkia but the origin one would be better with arms of some kind that work well with the rest of the design.

[wind dove]

Caught this lil fella during spotlight hour

[hard plume]

my guess is the reason why they don't have arms is that they do have arms

the arms in question being the space around them

[hard plume]

another thought about pokemon z-a:
I think air battles would make a combat

but with the flying mechanics from blueberry academy

[atomic orchid]

There’s a theory that the origin forms are punishments from Arceus on high. Dialga has his throat closed to prevent his Roar of Time, Palkia loses his arms to prevent Spacial Rend.
Doesn’t explain Giratina but that was a big idea when PLA came out and people had… less than glowing thoughts about the new origin forms

[faint wren]

that makes zero sense

They’re mimicking Arceus in these forms

[atomic orchid]

I never said it made sense. The copium was hard after seeing Dialga original form in leaks

[faint wren]

Alright

[atomic orchid]

Again. That theory doesn’t explain how Giratina was punished… unless he really liked his legs

[dreamy rapids]

Hey just wanted to ask if anyone knows any completed pokemon fan games with similar graphics to Re:union?

Or the best graphics you've played so far?

[past cairn]

im playing pokemon rocket red and need names for my starter a rattata (plz ping with ur ideas)

its a evil team rocket rattata so take that in mind

[simple oxide]

I have two lol

[coarse estuary]

if any1 would be down for a 2v2 soullink or 2v2 cagelocke feel free to dm me. (might not respond right away after any dms but i will respond)

[sleek jewel]

what is the best nature for milotic?

[scenic whale]

Calm

[hard plume]

Well if that's the case

why can they still use roar of time and spacial rend?

boom

just wrecked that theory

[hard plume]

I theorize that the reason why these forms look so distorted is because they are supercharged and in their element.
Dialga's chest gem extended to its throat to create more powerful roars of time
Palkia's shoulder gems gained so much power that it no longer required to use its arms to create spacial rends
And Giratina's platinum ridges now allow it to swim through antimatter without issue, removing the need to use its six legs

[polar rose]

What do you think of Pokemon Legends Z-A

[warm rose]

nice

[left yew]

I haven’t watch the direct yet but it seems cool, gen 6 is my favorite generation (out of the ones I’ve played) too.

[tight granite]

i would have loved to see Unova as a Legends game tos ee the OG Dragon but to get a Zygarde Game seems also fun

i am a bit miffed tho that its limited to 1 city and also doesnt really seem to be the past

[sleek jewel]

What did I miss

[hard plume]

me making a freakin breakthrough

#other-pokemon-games message

[vivid trout]

Say, what Region form pokemon would you want in the Legends Z-A game?

[soft knot]

I'm excited

[vocal plover]

in iron mon attempt 43 the starter options were mewtwo, zapdos and hopip. can you guess which one the random ball chooser chose for me?

[atomic orchid]

Shoulda prayed to RNGsus

[vocal plover]

either way both zapdos and mewtwo are illegal and i cant take them

needless to say i didnt make it out of the lab

[atomic orchid]

Still could’ve saved you from a Hopip

What even is an Ironman challenge? That’s a new one to me

[vocal plover]

theres a very long list of rules but at its core its a randomized nuzlocke where you can only use 1 mon for battle

[atomic orchid]

Oof

[vocal plover]

another major change is all boss trainers have 3 extra mons and all enemy mons are 60% higher level

would highly recommend its alot of fun

[atomic orchid]

Sound interesting. Probably not my thing though. I have a hard enough time on regular Nuzlockes to do a challenge like that

[simple oxide]

Rate the squad

[atomic orchid]

8/10. Unsure how well Magmar would be. Been too long since those days to remember.
Items may bump that number up though

[simple oxide]

I'm only using magmar because it's the only Kanto fire mon I've never used (except moltres)
But confuse ray + flame body is funny

[tulip ruin]

I like this squad definitely a good type coverage 9/10 i can definitely see electrode getting switched though

[simple oxide]

I'm only using electrode because it's the only Kanto electric mon I've never used (except zapdos)
But light screen + static is funny

(are you starting to see the pattern in my team building)

[tulip ruin]

Ahhhh

[unkempt egret]

magmar is a nice addition since I forget where you even get it in vanilla kanto lol

[simple oxide]

In original Kanto it's in Pokémon mansion, which is fine because you can pick it up after koga

But for some reason in frlg they removed a bunch of mons from there and moved them to mt. Ember which you can't reach until after Blaine

[tulip ruin]

I don't know why but i like to forget that the Pokemon mansion exists in the original kanto

[coarse estuary]

so ive always wanted to get the mono masters role but have never gotten past gym 2 in any of my attempts before i got bored and gave up. do you all recommend i pick the game i like most to start the type i like most to start or a mix of both? i just dont want to lose motivation anymore

[viscid pelican]

Just gonna leave this here for y'all to think about

Btw, you can choose one Honorable Mention per row.

For me it would be Porygon-Z, Flygon, Granbull, Ledian and Slurpuff. Honorable Mentions are Dragonite, Politoed, Mr. Mime, Darmanitan and Hawlucha

[atomic orchid]

Dragonite, Politoad (make him a king like his beta version), Mr. Mime (for the meme factor), Ledian, Hawlucha.

For joke response though: Vaniluxe (I want a super sundae!)

[viscid pelican]

Actually, Mr. Mime I was thinking could be a mime puppeteer or something around that area. The obvious choice would be a "black and white" mime or a circus clown, but I think a puppeteer would be sick where it has a small Mime Jr. marionette

[atomic orchid]

My only problem is Mime likely wouldn’t anyway cause it got the regional variant treatment instead

Same for Quag

[viscid pelican]

Porygon-Z could literally become MissingNo. because MissingNo. was supposed to be a "Bird/Normal" type Pokemon from what the data found and Porygon looks like a bird in general. Mega Porygon-Z would become corrpupted from its Mega Stone and then bring forth MissingNo. data into it's already corrupted data.

[atomic orchid]

Or the Mega Stone could work as a patch for the corrupted data? Like a recycle to what it was meant to be?

[viscid pelican]

That'd be cool too. Or Mega Porygon-Z X and Y; Corrupted and Cleaned

[atomic orchid]

Mega Porygon XYZ summoning from Yugioh

[viscid pelican]

saying that out loud is redundant as hell, but rolls off the tongue

[atomic orchid]

Reading [Z X and Y] I hear it pronounced as “Zikcee”

[pine ingot]

I wanna see a mega Zangoose

[atomic orchid]

Which honestly sounds pretty cool

[atomic orchid]

If we do mega Zangoose, we need Mega Seviper to balance the “natural rivals” scales

[pine ingot]

Yeah

[atomic orchid]

Same with the hitmons

[viscid pelican]

I was gonna add Hitmontop, but making a Mega for that would be a little weird. It'd still be cool to see since it is a Hitmon

[atomic orchid]

This is bringing me back to the fanart days of Gen 6 Ngl

Why does my phone correct “fanart” to canary? That’s the weirdest one yet

[pure star]

mega excadrill is something i want so bad for the new game

[viscid pelican]

Excadrill is a powerhouse as is, and boosting those stats... Yeah that'd be OP

[coarse estuary]

tell that to stuff like the legends or garchomp or diance

[viscid pelican]

Well Diance would be beaten typewise, but Garchomp would maul Excadrill

[atomic orchid]

What about the pseudos that got megas?

[viscid pelican]

Run. Run very far. That's all we could do then lol

[quasi whale]

anyone have a palkia dmax adventure in pokemon sword and shield?

[scenic whale]

I think the only pseudo that should get a mega is hydreigon

[hard plume]

ah, so it can become the tank that it always wanted to be?

[scenic whale]

Exactly

[viscid pelican]

oh woops

I always tend to make a mistake in making stuff like that.

Well I can redo it if need be

[viscid pelican]

Ah yes, my favorite Grass type; Poliwrath lol

[hard plume]

didn't know poliwrath had a new form /j

[oblique citrus]

new regional for legends Z-A

[viscid pelican]

Actually, I wouldn't be against that. I'd go for the Lake Trio just because I feel like everyone's forgotten about Azelt, Mesprit, and Uxie

They represent emotions right? How about regional variants that portrait negative emotions instead of positive ones?

[oblique citrus]

maybe a new lake trio member like how forces of nature added enamorus??

[viscid pelican]

That'd be sick

[hard plume]

wisdom, willpower, and emotions, to be precise

[viscid pelican]

Then the fourth could be indescision, weakness or negativity (or make a new trio. they made new Regis so why not a new trio of variants like the Legendary Birds?)

[oblique citrus]

the negative inversions would be neat

[atomic orchid]

If we’re talking adding a new mythical I always thought The Eon Duo could use a third to round them out

Always felt weird that every other non-solo mythical had 3 or 4 but not them

[viscid pelican]

Well aren't Latias and Latios supposed to represent North and South? How about two more for East and West?

[oblique citrus]

oh that's a good idea

[viscid pelican]

I might be completely wrong with that info though

[oblique citrus]

only if their megas are also purple and look exactly the same as latias' and latios' megas

[viscid pelican]

Well to be opposite colors, purple inverted is green so maybe they'd be green / sea-green?

[hard plume]

hoopsandhiphop did a lot of videos on these "what if there were new members of legendary groups" or "what if legendaries had regional forms"