Have a little fun and have judgement and hidden power
#fusions
final kelp
random thought but if genesect was in this game, i would insta fuse him with arceus
hidden bison
Why
final kelp
i just realised you cannot put drives and plates on him... AAAAAAAAAAAA
maybe it would a fused drive-plate with random typings
dammit ;-;
nova sparrow
finished ther andom three-way fusion, turns out these three look nice togehter!
pallid egret
Sick
nova sparrow
does it?
copper briar
sorta
copper briar
probably since theres 4 wings.
copper briar
oh
hidden bison
It's like a demon geck with wings
nova sparrow
k
final kelp
can i just say a nidoran (m) fusion with raikou is litteraly the best
near scarab
why not Nidoking?
near scarab
Fire/water
nova sparrow
alectric/grass
copper briar
Fairy/fire
main creek
Ground/poison
dull elbow
Steel/Poison
hidden bison
Ghost/normal
hidden bison
A proper rock flying type
hidden bison
Archeops is good tho
copper briar
Defeatist:
void badger
or invest in a galarian weezing
brittle flume
Im not growing doug dimmadomes fortune
left flume
is there no Dragonite/Venusaur custom sprite?
junior lily
nope
there's no Dragonite/Venusaur or Venusaur/Dragonite
hidden bison
Don't think so
copper briar
post gam
hidden bison
Oh really
copper briar
there is a way post game
hidden bison
That's neat
left flume
oh, ok
hidden bison
Lots of people on reddit do requests so you could ask there
past hinge
something good with rhyhorn line?
im thinking a flying or grass type, but dunno what would have great spatk/spdef or hp :c
copper briar
Maybe something like Tangela/Rhyhorn?
pallid ore
Offensive or defensive? As body (rock) or head (ground)? Both works fine
hidden bison
Tangela or venusaur should do fine for grass
Vileplume and bellosom are decent too
Vileplume is slightly stronger in special attack while bellosom is slightly weaker but more tanky
copper briar
we know
silver glade
^^^
hidden bison
Can someone fix up this sprite
slate stream
What sprite
shell torrent
hi guys, what are the most op fusions?
slate stream
Alakazam and Machamp maybe
But you shoul be able to complete the game with any kind of fusion
haughty jay
here, the most powerfull fusion
shell torrent
yes i'm able to complete it i just wanted to know what are the best fusion, that's all
junior lily
Absol/Shedinja - Dark/Ghost with Wonder Guard
since there are barely any Fairy-type attacking moves, it's basically invincible
Weezing/Tyranitar is nice. If you give it Levitate, then it doesn't have any weaknesses
lanturn can make some cool fusions since it's Water face gives Volt Absorb and it's Electric body gives Water Absorb
pallid ore
X/Slaking, Chansey&Blissey/X, Shedinja and some of the legendaries obviously
And lots of other stuff
^ coincidentally also some of the most boring fusions lol
haughty jay
if you need absol/shedinja, here
fleet folio
Lol oh wow I couldn’t tell 😂 I was thinking like huh 😂 the face threw me off
hidden bison
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fleet folio
Thanks
hidden bison
Wouldn't umbreon/shedinja be a good choice too
silver venture
If your fusion doesn’t have an attack stat of at least 100 then don’t talk to me smh
hidden bison
The defense and special defense of umbreon would be wasted
It cant be touched anyways
junior lily
Speed and Atk is all that counts
Absol gives it the highest atk
since Fairy-type attacks are almost none-existent, Absol/Shedinja will most likely never gonna get hit.
hidden bison
Right I forgot it has 1 hp
pallid ore
Weavile works as well
final kelp
Is mew and mewtwo an op fusion?
junior lily
if you want some moves that Weavile has, then sure
since it almost never gets hit, the Atk stat is all that matters
3 points isn't that big of a deal, so better coverage might be worth it
I might make one of those later and check their movepools beforehand
hidden bison
So weavile is slightly weaker but faster
final kelp
ahem is mew and mewtwo considered an op fusion?
loud parrot
depends on how you go about it
kindred grotto
Depends to what you compare it
It doesnt get an extra type, and the stats are worse than mewtwos
But you can learn all tm’s
hidden bison
Mew can make alot of op fusions
Either has head or body tbh
So maybe something like chansey/mew
You don't resist fighting but are immune to ghost
final kelp
i mean mew can earn litteraly any tm
so combine mew's tm learning + mewtwo's stats = ?
proud crane
You make a slightly weaker Mewtwo, but with a much larger movepool
I don't know that Mewtwo has any movepool problems by itself that it needs Mew's help to fix, but it would be at minimum: really really good
especially when you consider the handful of tms this game adds to the usual list, like Moonblast and Quiver Dance
final kelp
oh yeah quiver dance!
forgot about that move
now that i think about it, if you spam quiverdance on Mewthree (?) and a random move then it would be insane
hidden bison
Id go with chansey and mew tbh
You can run any set be extremely tanky dish out good damage and have a decent type
proud crane
hmm
hidden bison
Hey it's not that bad
101 speed is pretty good especially if you pair it with a good special attacker
loud parrot
guess I'm insane then :/
final kelp
pretty sure people don't know what other bird pokemon to use, once you play too many fire red rom hacks you get used it
left flume
I wanted Pidgeot/Arcanine just because i love the Custom Sprite
loud parrot
I just wanted to fuse an omanyte with something that didn't conflict with the types I already had, looked at a pidgey and thought to myself "yeah why not give Chef the ability to fly"
good thing I had a ground type
nova sparrow
well yeah but flying is a physical type generally
and pidgeot has >80
fearow has >90
hidden bison
True
proud crane
until you learn air slash, then it's special 
nova sparrow
and i think dodrio has something aroung 100/110?
air slash has 65 bp
why would you ever use that as your main stab
proud crane
nah that's air cutter
nova sparrow
75?
hidden bison
I currently run a full speacial set on mine
nova sparrow
special
hidden bison
Since I have cleffa head
nova sparrow
oh yeah fair enough
loud parrot
because it's canon that I'm fucking insane
proud crane
shoot I though air slash was a little stronger than that
nova sparrow
but just about every flying type there is
hidden bison
final kelp
has everyone forgotten about crobat
hidden bison
Pretty tanky if I do say so myself
nova sparrow
and in sigilyph's case it gets psychic so it really doesnt matter
crobat is not a special attacker what the fuck are you on
hidden bison
This is so sad
final kelp
fam i'm talking if you compare crobat to pidgeot
hidden bison
Can we get sigilyph prevo
proud crane
alexa, play despacito
final kelp
crobat has litteraly everything better than pidgeot
hidden bison
Ngl
hidden bison
I just like pidgeot
final kelp
OH GOD DAMMIT I MISTOOK IT
nova sparrow
cause it's shit
when its main meta sets include >>>heat wave
you know something's up
hidden bison
A nice buff to speed or attack would be nice
nova sparrow
yeah i suppose
hidden bison
Maybe 110 or 115 speed
final kelp
anyways if y'all know that pidgeot is shit why you fusing with it then
nova sparrow
crobat is pretty nice as is
hidden bison
Cause I like it
nova sparrow
but pdgeot was made as a mixed/special attacker
in >>>gen 1
which is so fucking wack
hidden bison
And clefable/pidgeot isn't a bad combo
proud crane
I don't know that pidgeot was really made as anything
nova sparrow
mmh fair enough
proud crane
it's just kinda there
nova sparrow
oh yeah also that
fair
it still takes a shit on its typing tho
normal/flying
and both of those are pretty fuckin physical, yo uknow
hidden bison
True
hidden bison
But they have some beefy special moves
nova sparrow
hmm
fair
but also it's only good once it megas
and that's 5 gens after its origin
which is really sad
left flume
What about Farfetch'd? :v
hidden bison
Farfetchd is dog shit
final kelp
why is farfetchd even a mon
nova sparrow
fetchd gets the stick tho
nova sparrow
and is also a better physical attacker than pidge
and the stick doubles its attack or something
it's kinda absurd ngl
hidden bison
Well I shall continue to use clefable/pidgeot
proud crane
I think the main appeal of farfetch'd was that it gained +50% exp
hidden bison
I just wanted it for the speed tbh
nova sparrow
yeah that to
hidden bison
And the custom sprite for clefable/pidgeot is pretty cool
hidden bison
Eh true
nova sparrow
which is dumb
hidden bison
But I use togedemaru in ou
I think i like fusion with certain mons is because I can see if i can make them strong
left flume
Is Espeon/Arcanine worth it?
near scarab
I guess
Well yeh
If you need a Psychic yeh
But if mainly for the fire type go Ninenine
hidden bison
Should I go with sceptile/fearow since there's a full custom line for it or a different pokemon like primape
hidden bison
Is it even good lmao
hidden bison
Where do you get bonsly
proud crane
you can get one from the brown egg at the daycare
near scarab
Aswell as all those physical moves Sceptile gets Sudowoodo camnot use
Can use*
The other way round might be better
Just sudo has better hp and Sceptile has better speed
hidden bison
I'll think about it
There might be some better sudowoodo combos so I'll look into it
remote patrol
I reworked the Pikachu/Arbok/Seviper fusion and simplified it. By... like, a LOT.
Here's a prototype of what I'm aiming for.
remote patrol
Pikachu/Seviper. MUCH simpler.
proud crane
I like the blended tail
remote patrol
I'm particularly proud of the tail, but the ears are a sticking point for me because I wasn't sure how to adjust the coloring of them.
proud crane
Neither one's real high-class, but it should work fine until maybe the late game
remote patrol
Pikaviper
at: 102
de: 68
sa: 102
sd: 70
sp: 101```
Abilities:
**Neuropyrrhic**
*Instead of being hit by Electric or Poison-type moves, the Pokémon’s Sp.Atk, Atk, and Spd are increased and, at the end of each turn, Neuropyrrhic has a 1/3 chance of curing the Pokémon of a non-volatile status condition, increasing the Pokémon’s Def but reducing all gains in Atk, Sp.Atk, and Spd from this ability by 50%.*
**Shock Toxin**
*A Pokémon with Shock Toxin bypasses a target's Reflect, Light Screen, Safeguard, Mist, Substitute, and Aurora Veil when attacking, and if a Pokémon with this ability makes contact with an enemy Pokémon there is a 25% chance that target will become paralyzed and/or a 25% chance the target is poisoned.*Seems fair and balanced
remote patrol
Well, fair-er and more balanced compared to the 3-way fusion from before.
It only has those two abilities, and it's a Poison/Electric Pokemon.
I really want to try my hand coloring this thing. It'd probably look great with a mostly yellow coloration. Those spots on its body could be red, like its cheeks, the purple half of its face would be a light brown, the front of its body would have a black symbol...
odd ledge
yeah anything with a ground move will wreck this thing for sure.
remote patrol
True. Buuut it has utility.
It's fast, and it hits hard. So it's only a glass cannon to Ground-types and Ground moves, but to everything else it's an open question. It ignores basic defenses, and can poison and/or paralyze targets on contact, and if you hit it with a status effect there's a legit chance it becomes stronger.
So it's definitely a menace, but it's not nearly as ridiculous as what I came out with from before.
odd ledge
Yeah but those abilities still have far too many effects to be even slightly reasonable
remote patrol
Eh. They're fusions of pre-existing abilities.
If you're fusing together Pokemon, then you're going to fuse their abilities. And probably their moves, too.
odd ledge
not really
proud crane
In a less constrained environment than an actual pokémon fangame, fused abilities would be reasonable
odd ledge
plus that first one is not a fusion of abilities
hidden bison
If i fuse a tauros and blaziken I don't get speed boost fused with intimidate
odd ledge
it seems to be lightning rod on steroids
proud crane
don't think they're talking about this game
hidden bison
SPEED IS RAISED EVERY TURN AND YOUR ATTACK IS LOWERED EVERY TURN TOO
That's actually op wtf
remote patrol
Actually, any stat gains except Defense are cut in half if a status effect is removed.
Another thought that occurred to me was that this is a fusion of the anime Pokemon. So it's going to have more than four moves.
In that case, what are the moves that it absolutely needs to know, drawing from Pikachu and Seviper's pools?
odd ledge
Not necessarily. There is no indication that it would keep every move known by both mon
remote patrol
Maybe, maybe not.
I do believe that certain moves would be fused together, though.
The tail attacks that Seviper and Pikachu know would probably be fused. Aqua Tail/Poison Tail/Iron Tail becoming one attack, for example.
odd ledge
If we are talking anime, Jessies Seviper does not know Aqua Tail, so I am not sure why you included it
And it doesn't even naturally learn it in the games. It has to be tutored
remote patrol
Poison Tail, then.
Well... it would technically be a fusion of Poison Tail and Iron Tail. But no Aqua.
odd ledge
yes Poison Tail/Iron Tail would make sense
hybrid cave
liquid tail?
remote patrol
Rust Tail.
remote patrol
And if snake is communist, is Rus Tail.
proud crane
so is this for some hypothetical game that could actually get designed, or is it just for funsies?
remote patrol
Funsies.
hybrid cave
wanna hear something ironicaly?
remote patrol
Assuming Jessie's Seviper were fused with Ash's Pikachu, what's its moveset?
We're also assuming that some moves are going to be fused together.
hybrid cave
poison shock?
copper briar
Iron tail, and thunderbolt are staying.
hybrid cave
chance to apply poison/paralyze
copper briar
for obvious reasons
odd ledge
the Seviper has the Moveset: Haze, Wrap, Bite, and Poison Tail
hybrid cave
or original move set?
remote patrol
We're not thinking in game terms. We know anime Pokemon have more than four moves, so by no means should we restrict ourselves.
copper briar
Thunderbolt, Poison Tail, Bite, Iron Tail/Wrap
hybrid cave
if wrap was only usefull :x
remote patrol
In anime terms, it can be.
hybrid cave
hey pikachu lemme wrap u... aaaah paralyzed,
odd ledge
In the anime they also only know 4 at a time actually
hybrid cave
cant wrap this stone
cant wrap without freezing
cant wrap ghosts
xD
(rustys adventure basicaly)
remote patrol
That's... not true? In the anime, there are Pokemon shown who know WAY more than four moves at a time. Pikachu is an excellent example of that.
proud crane
from bulbapedia "Pokémon can have more than four moves in the anime, and are not required to forget an old move in order to learn a new one (although some of the moves a Pokémon is shown using when first introduced will generally fall into disuse as the Pokémon learns more powerful moves as the series continues). Later series are more likely to have Pokémon stick to the four-move limit, however."
odd ledge
Pikachu specifically forgot moves multiple times to learn different ones
remote patrol
Pikachu's ability to learn and remember moves comes and goes depending on which season of the anime you're viewing.
remote patrol
Later seasons are more "game accurate", that's true. But it contradicts earlier seasons of the anime, which was its own continuity.
Ooooh. I like that.
Let's combine some moves.
proud crane
i mean you already have paralyze/poison chance on contact
hybrid cave
static wrap can perhaps have like bite effect if enemy is already paralyzed
proud crane
I was gonna say just upgrade Wrap itself so it's a move you might ever actually use
hybrid cave
lmao
remote patrol
What is Static Wrap a fusion of?
Obviously Wrap, but which of Pikachu's moves is being combined with it?
hybrid cave
wave?
proud crane
Nuzzle?
odd ledge
Electroweb?
hybrid cave
thunder wave*
remote patrol
I like fusing it with Electroweb.
So Pikaviper would wrap itself in an electric web, wrap around a target, then leave behind the web.
hidden bison
Pikachu cant use Electroweb
remote patrol
Ash's Pikachu can.
copper briar
wat
hidden bison
whut
copper briar
it can?
hidden bison
Yep
copper briar
oh thats cool
copper briar
usum
remote patrol
remote patrol
Mimikyu proves to be a powerful opponent, but Pikachu overwhelms the opposition with a new move, Electroweb, and the Z-Move 10,000,000 Volt Thunderbolt. Ash wins, setting the stage for his Ula’ula Island grand trial!
odd ledge
Yeah I am looking at Ash's Pikachu right now. It knows Electroweb
hidden bison
Does he fight the totems at all
remote patrol
This is why I'm saying we shouldn't necessarily limit ourselves.
I say, we go into this with anime rules, and we have fun with it.
Let's combine some moves from Pikachu and Seviper's respective pools and see what we get.
Static Wrap is FUN.
odd ledge
well I mean anime rules as of now are still game rules when it comes to move limits
hybrid cave
kinda want to ask why pikachu cant learn thunder fang, but then i realise it would become a thunder nible
remote patrol
In contests, it does.
hidden bison
We could just stick to normal fusions
remote patrol
The anime actually shows coordinators teaching their Pokemon to fuse moves together, with each other or from themselves.
So move fusions are canon, to a degree.
But we're already FAR away from canon by fusing two Pokemon together.
odd ledge
Yes, pikachu used thunder as an armor while riding swellow to breakthrough a screen made by solrock/lunatone in the psychic gym battle in hoenn
remote patrol
Yes.
hidden bison
retarded
remote patrol
Yes.
hidden bison
Yes
remote patrol
I offer no defense on that front, and instead provide a big, blaring, shiny sign that declares FUN in bold, capital letters.
odd ledge
time for a real fusion move lol
Super Pokémon Fireworks (Japanese: 超特大ポケモン花火 Super Special Pokémon Fireworks) A combination move used by the Ultra Guardians' partner Pokémon and their Ride Pokémon. Pikachu launches Electroweb into the air, followed by Togedemaru and Charjabug adding to it by creating a makeshift Electroweb with Zing Zap and Discharge, respectively. Popplio, Steenee, Turtonator, and Charizard add to the combination with Bubble Beam, Magical Leaf, and a double Flamethrower, respectively. Flygon, Garchomp, and Altaria then use a triple Fire Blast, followed by Snowy's Powder Snow and Poipole's poison. Together, the moves make a giant spinning ferris wheel-shaped construction.
remote patrol
Pikachu knows Fly and Surf, apparently.
hybrid cave
wailord would been more effective
remote patrol
You can teach it both of those.
remote patrol
Anyway...
What are some other move combinations that would be super useful for Seviper/Pikachu?
Part of the reason I wanted to throw Aqua Tail in on top of Iron Tail and Poison Tail was because... well, if we're already going all-in, might as well toss this on top of everything else.
hybrid cave
venushock would kind of make most sense
remote patrol
You mean Venomshock?
I guess it'd basically be Venomshock, but with an electric add-on?
hybrid cave
its written venoshock as far i read it here but proly is venom
proud crane
It's venoshock
remote patrol
So it's Venoshock, but with actual electricity on top of the poison.
Should it have a different name?
remote patrol
Venobolt?
hybrid cave
thunder sludge?
copper briar
why not just straight up sludge bomb + thunderbolt
proud crane
could combine with an electric move other than thundershock, like venobolt or veno ball
hybrid cave
idk
copper briar
sludge ball
its like electro ball
but you should be slower.
(more slow you are, the more damage.)
hybrid cave
80acuracy though :v
remote patrol
The numbers don't matter in the context of what this is.
hybrid cave
actualy
if electric is pretty quick, why not someth like furry attack but poison related
no idea how to name it though
hybrid cave
something like spit attack i mean
remote patrol
I know what you mean.
I think we need a word that can refer to poison or electricity at the same time.
From there, we should be good.
hybrid cave
same thats why i got no idea of name
remote patrol
Okay, there's a much easier way to go about this.
Let's start by looking at the moves Pikachu has.
And compare those to the abilities Seviper has.
Then, we take the best out of either, and throw them together.
remote patrol
Here's what we've got so far:
THUNDER SLUDGE (Thunder Bolt/Venoshock)
RUST TAIL (Aqua Tail/Iron Tail/Poison Tail)
TESLA WRAP (Wrap/Coil/Electroweb)
remote patrol
Which of Seviper's attacks can be combined with Volt Tackle?
Because I'm thinking Night Slash would be a good pick.
remote patrol
Volt Tackle/Double Team/Night Slash
hybrid cave
volt facade might be interesting though
copper briar
Volt tackle + wrap.
remote patrol
We already have a combo for Wrap.
copper briar
we can have more
copper briar
Volt slam, you wrap up the opponent and slam them to the ground shocking them.
hybrid cave
would make sense then if it only works when enemy is wrapped
copper briar
trure
true*
but i was thinking
you sorta coil yourself around them
and slam both of you
to the ground
and you produce electricity whilst doing it, shocking them.
remote patrol
Cloudsplit.
hybrid cave
since it has double power when its paralyzed or poisoned
hidden bison
There should be a pokemon who poisons or heals when using wrap
Like poison ivy or somethinf
hybrid cave
wast there a pokemon that actualy heals from poison?
i thought there was a type that actualy has it and when u gave it a poison hold item it heals from it too
also facade has a z move that actualy fits discription for seviper
remote patrol
Swagger
Bite
Quick Attack
Lick
Feint
Screech
Glare
Thunder Wave
Light Screen
Poison Fang
Venom Drench
Gastro Acid
Double-Edge
Leer
Tackle
Poison Jab
Haze
Slam
Swords Dance
Crunch
Belch
Agility
Wring Out```breakneck blitz
remote patrol
This is a quick list of the remaining moves we can grab before we have to start using TMs.
copper briar
Swords Dance + Thunder Wave
hybrid cave
thunder swords?
copper briar
You dance with the swords, and then send them into the opponent, paralyzing them.
(not dealing damage.)
remote patrol
I'm VERY tempted to call that Swords of Revealing Light.
copper briar
this isnt a yu-gi-oh spell card
hybrid cave
rather facade dance, deals double dmg for 5 turns if enemy is already have a status afliction
ik facade aint in list but, it suits its role to deal more dmg if it has a status on it
remote patrol
That's... fair.
hidden bison
So we doing fusion moves
remote patrol
Okay, sure, Facade/Swords Dance/Thunder Wave.
Yeah.
Ideally, we're sticking to the list I just provided, but I'm fine stepping away to add one more move to the combo if it works thematically.
remote patrol
I'm going to call the Facade/Swords Dance/Thunder Wave attack Mjolnir.
copper briar
lets combine all the moves
remote patrol
lol
hybrid cave
doest mean it has power added of 3 though
hidden bison
Uhh
hybrid cave
lol
hidden bison
Quick lick
copper briar
Sword of Poison, Shock, and Power.
hidden bison
Lick with priority
copper briar
500 PWR. 50% Acc. Paralyze OR Poison the opponent, if the move misses, Raise atk by 2.
🙂
hidden bison
copper briar
🙂
copper briar
i mean its just combining all the moves
hidden bison
Glaring belch
copper briar
poison n o m
remote patrol
Back Biter?
hybrid cave
elemental flincher?
remote patrol
Backbiter.
hidden bison
I'm sticking with mine
hybrid cave
snake bite makes sense but yea
copper briar
might make that a move in my fakemon world.
hidden bison
Quick lick
Poison slam
Glaring belch
copper briar
👀
hidden bison
What does belch even do
remote patrol
Leer/Growl/Glare.
hidden bison
Oh
copper briar
Ive used a swalot in oras before.
remote patrol
Maybe add in Screech on top of that?
hidden bison
Glaring screech
remote patrol
So Screech/Glare/Growl/Leer.
hidden bison
Paralysis and lowers def
remote patrol
They're similar-ish moves, so combining them doesn't really mean a lot...
hybrid cave
drugged glare make them go frenzy not to know what to do, losing all stats -1?
remote patrol
We're not concerned with strength and balance.
Oh, just give him a Counter that paralyzes.
copper briar
pull a gun and shoot the opponent
hidden bison
And
hybrid cave
xD
hidden bison
I want balance
copper briar
ok thanos
hidden bison
Idk
hybrid cave
xD
hidden bison
Maybe a combination of brick break and something
remote patrol
Screech/Leer/Growl/Glare... I wanna call it Yelp.
hybrid cave
purron break
remote patrol
But I can do better.
hybrid cave
it has no fist
hidden bison
hybrid cave
oh
hidden bison
Sure
hybrid cave
ur pokemon
hidden bison
I want some signature moves for them
hybrid cave
purr punch
hidden bison
That's homo
hybrid cave
lowers enemys evasion rate by its purring
hidden bison
That's homo
hybrid cave
not many things have actualy to lower evasion u know
slate stream
Fury punches
hidden bison
Think I'm just gonna stick with cruel punch
slate stream
Fury claws but it has priority and multihit
hidden bison
Sounds ok
hidden bison
BRUH
hidden bison
ITS PRIMAPE AND LIEPARD
hidden bison
Cat puns are so clapped ngl
hybrid cave
xD
hidden bison
No I want balance
hybrid cave
it is balance if u lower base dmg
dapper night
These puns are really the cat's meow
hybrid cave
its not that dumb though
hidden bison
Stop
hybrid cave
m just saying xD, power 20 for exsample with 100% crit chance for exsample is not op
hidden bison
Yes it is
hybrid cave
its not fam
hidden bison
If that shit hits 5 times it's like 150 base power
copper briar
40/50 power is a little more, better.
hybrid cave
bruh
hybrid cave
who says it hits multiple times
dapper night
This is really a cat-astrophe.
hybrid cave
lul
remote patrol
I’m still trying to work out a fusion of Leer/Growl/Glare/Screech.
hybrid cave
drugged glare?
hidden bison
Stupid status move 1
hybrid cave
idk
hybrid cave
new pokemon game, pokemon drugstore, where delibird is thine drug dealer
hidden bison
Know what lets move on
hybrid cave
ight, ill cat-ch on
copper briar
Shocking Grip. The user grabs the opponent, shocking them with a powerful wave of electricity. 40% Chance to paralyze the foe.
80 Base Power, 95 Accuracy.
dapper night
What about a Poison Tail, but instead, it paralyzed, instead of poison?
hidden bison
It's not electric lol
copper briar
its still a lanturn fusion
hidden bison
True
hybrid cave
water fly?
hidden bison
It's a water/flying with volt absorb
hybrid cave
thats interesting
copper briar
it doesnt even have the gliscor wings
water/ground or electric/ground makes more sense
hidden bison
Or does it
remote patrol
How about Fixation?
hybrid cave
u looking for logic here? charizard aint even a dragon
hidden bison
True
copper briar
thats for balance
hybrid cave
sure
hidden bison
I just wrote how it keeps it's wings hidden in battle
hybrid cave
balance
remote patrol
As a name for that four-way status thing?
hidden bison
Since how would I add them with a good perspective
hybrid cave
charizard the only non dragon with dragon moves means its the only dragon that does not get dragon dmg on him by x2
hidden bison
R/iam14andthisisdeep
copper briar
r/12oatmeal
hidden bison
Shocking grip sounds interesting
dapper night
That can breathe fire
hybrid cave
learn dragon moves
hidden bison
Nintendo said lets get a dragon and make it breath fire
hidden bison
Nah it's retarted
hidden bison
Can't complain about dragon type starter off balance if all of them are dragon
hidden bison
Alright gamers
dapper night
Isn't the Dragon/Water typing better as a starter?
slate stream
What are stats for this
hybrid cave
depends against other starters u face
copper briar
1/1/1/1/1/1/1
hidden bison
What is it lol
hidden bison
@copper briar you should do full furret fusions
copper briar
you mean shrink the face and call it 162.162
ill do that eventually
and i do have furret fusions
copper briar
the brown on the tail is for detail from furrets tail
hybrid cave
a fusion specialy made furchu
hybrid cave
xD
copper briar
and this guy is flexin
hidden bison
Do it
Furret only fusions
There's a furret/ninetails which might be good
And gengar
hybrid cave
a pokemon for krillin, cus he will need a senchu bean
copper briar
debruhger
hybrid cave
theburger?
hidden bison
What would be better
Nidoqueen/primeape
Or nidoking/primeape
uhh
idk
king
queen
i would say King
Damn alright
It's 2 difference lol
King has better distribution imo
more atk
more spd
copper briar
queen is more bulky in defence
tame oxide
both of them get by on great defensive typing and sheer force.
King has the slightly higher attack values so he's usually the go-to.
remote patrol
I’m trying to come up with a name for a move that combines Haze, Gastro Acid, and Belch.
left flume
Poisonous Goo
nova sparrow
guncc
left flume
venokinesis
remote patrol
I like Hazard Breath.
slate stream
Electivire head that will destroy countrys
left flume
it's just one mor point though xD
remote patrol
Feint/Counter/Venom Drench/Poison Jab -- if those were combined, that would be called... what?
proud crane
Start by describing the effect of the move. Specifically I'm wondering how you combine Feint and Counter
remote patrol
An attack seeped in poison that hits a foe using Protect or Detect, lifting the effects of those moves. It inflicts greater damage if used in retaliation to a physical attack.
proud crane
I might stick to combining two moves at a time (assuming a fusion of two pokémon). It makes more sense narratively and doesn't require as much complexity.
remote patrol
How about Foulpole? I figure combining Feint, Counter, and Poison Jab works infinitely better, and it's a name that implies the Pokemon went ramrod stiff while throwing that attack.
proud crane
👍
remote patrol
I think I have the full set of unique moves for my fusion of Seviper and Pikachu.
I'm assuming that any move not referenced here that can be done by Pikachu or Seviper are moves this thing has access to.
But I do feel like I have room for one more.
Are there any suggestions for one more unique combo move, between Seviper and Pikachu's respective movesets?
proud crane
Coil/Charge?
remote patrol
Funnily enough, I've got something for that.
Anyway, I found what I was looking for.
A wicked thunderbolt wreathed in special, poisonous liquid strikes the target to inflict damage. The target may become paralyzed or poisoned, and damage is doubled against paralyzed or poisoned targets.
RUST TAIL (Aqua Tail/Iron Tail/Poison Tail) [Water/Steel/Poison]
The user swings their steel-hard tail at the target, as if it were a wet, corroded blade. This can poison the target, and may lower their Defense stat. Critical hits land more easily.
TESLA WRAP (Wrap/Electroweb) [Normal/Electric]
The user covers themselves in electricity, wraps themselves around the target, then keeps them bound, dealing damage every turn. If the Pokemon escapes, they will be paralyzed. If it hits, their Speed stat is lowered tremendously.
CLOUDSPLIT (Volt Tackle/Night Slash/Double Team) [Electric/Dark/Normal]
The user moves rapidly and raises its evasiveness as it electrifies itself, making illusory copies that charge the target. If an opportunity arises, one of those copies could land a critical hit! But using this move risks damaging the user quite a lot. ```A jolt of electricity slams into and paralyzes the target. The user's Attack stat increases sharply, and damage is increased against targets with status effects.
BACKBITER (Crunch/Bite/Poison Fang) [Dark/Normal/Poison]
The user crunches up the target with viciously sharp, toxic fangs. This can lower their Defense stat, make the target flinch, and/or badly poison them.
DOMINATE (Screech/Leer/Growl/Glare) [Normal]
The Pokemon releases a horrible noise while maintaining eye-contact, harshly lowering the target's Defense stat, lowering the target's Attack stat, increasing its own Attack stat, and paralyzing non-Electric targets.
HAZARD BREATH (Haze/Gastro Acid/Belch) [Ice/Poison]
The user converts their stomach acids into a haze that eliminates every stat change among all the Pokémon engaged in battle, eliminates the target's Ability, and inflicts damage to the target if used after eating a Berry. ```An attack seeped in poison that hits a foe using Protect or Detect, lifting the effects of those moves. It inflicts greater damage if used in retaliation to a physical attack.
DENDROBLAST (Venom Drench/Electro Ball) [Poison/Electric]
The user hurls an electric orb covered in poisonous slime at the target. Its power increases with how much faster the user is than its target and if the move hits a poisoned or paralyzed target then their Attack, Sp.Atk, and Speed are lowered.
CONSUMPTION (Giga Drain/Lick) [Grass/Ghost]
The target is struck with a powerful tongue, draining nutrients. The user's HP is restored by half the damage taken by the target, and the target may also be paralyzed.
HARD KNOCK (Infestation/Brick Break) [Bug/Fighting]
The user attacks with a swift chop, infesting the target and attacking for four to five turns. It can also break barriers, such as Light Screen and Reflect, and the target can't flee while this move is being used on them. ```What do you guys think of these?
nova sparrow
nice
loud parrot
what in the what now?
proud crane
are these all for Pikaviper?
remote patrol
Yeah.
These are the twelve unique moves I came up with, with your guys' help.
In animeland, I imagine that these are the go-to moves for this thing, with the rest of the movepool being various moves that Seviper or Pikachu ought to be capable of anyway.
What are your thoughts on these things?
proud crane
Some of these don't seem cohesive. Backbiter makes sense, since the attacks it combines are all related, but others just feel like 2+ moves stapled together.
Dendroblast and Hard Knock don't really have any reason to be the way that they are. A fusion of Infestation and Brick Break would look more like "Infests the target for 4-5 turns and suppresses Light Screen and Reflect for the duration". The effects should feel fused rather than just stapled together
slate stream
Also how does one cover electricity in poison @remote patrol
remote patrol
Well, first you make the lightning bolt tangible.
proud crane
it's not that much of a stretch. I'm still trying to figure out electroweb
remote patrol
Okay, so it wraps itself in an electric web. Then it wraps itself around the target. And if the target shakes it off, the web stays behind.
proud crane
"The user attacks and captures opposing Pokémon using an electric net."
all pokémon capable of learning it are either Electric-type, Bug-type, a member of the Porygon family, or Passimian wait what
remote patrol
In this case, instead of throwing the net at the enemy Pokemon, it wraps itself in the net and throws itself at the target. Then, if it's shaken off, it leaves the net behind.
Anyway... are there any other moves that don't quite make sense?
proud crane
Howl somehow snuck into Dominate, and Mjolnir should increase in damage if the user has a condition, not the target
Also for maximum sense-make, I feel like each fused move should be one pikachu move and one seviper move, but maybe it's a little late for that
remote patrol
I get where you're coming from on that -- I did realize while I was making this that some of the abilities were a little superfluous. I made twelve knowing that not all of them would make the cut, but at the very least, I want to refine these as much as possible before dropping the ones that still don't work.
Does that make sense? 🙂
proud crane
yeah
remote patrol
That said, let's start cleaning these up.
Are there any others that stick out, and if so, what can we do to make them a little more polished?
proud crane
is power level a concern? because Mjolnir looks preposterously strong
remote patrol
Power level is of absolutely no concern.
The goal is to mesh these things as well as possible. If that means a move that's completely insane, I welcome that chaos.
So taking it from the top... Thunder Sludge.
proud crane
a big part of the point of venoshock is that you have to use another move to set it up, since it doesn't poison the target by itself. Letting it set itself up goes against that. How about making an electric attack (or an electric/poison attack if that's what we're doing) that deals increased damage if the target is poisoned or paralyzed? It'd be venoshock with added electric flavor.
remote patrol
So this:
A wicked thunderbolt wreathed in special, poisonous liquid strikes the target to inflict damage. The target may become paralyzed or poisoned, and damage is doubled against paralyzed or poisoned targets.
Becomes...
A bolt of electrified poison strikes the target to inflict damage. Target may become paralyzed or poisoned, and if already paralyzed or poisoned the damage is doubled.
?
proud crane
...it's the same
remote patrol
Should I not mention that the target may become paralyzed or poisoned?
It being an electric/poison move, that might automatically be implied.
proud crane
not all electric/poison moves paralyze or poison
remote patrol
So...
A bolt of electrified poison strikes the target to inflict damage. If the target is paralyzed or poisoned the damage is doubled.
Better?
proud crane
that's it
proud crane
maybe remove the aqua bit, but otherwise yeah
remote patrol
Tesla Wrap.
The user covers themselves in electricity, wraps themselves around the target, then keeps them bound, dealing damage every turn. If the Pokemon escapes, they will be paralyzed. If it hits, their Speed stat is lowered tremendously. ```it's unusual for multi-turn attacks to have a special effect on wearing off, and electroweb doesn't paralyze normally
remote patrol
Right.
My thinking behind it was... it's a net of electricity around the Pikaviper. When it wraps around the target, they're bound. If they escape, the electricity hits them and they're paralyzed. So the idea is that it creates a kind of "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.
Anyway... how can we condense this a bit? Because I feel like the phrasing of this is really weird.
Should the lowering of the Pokemon's Speed be implied, or just outright removed from the description?
The user covers themselves in electricity, wraps around the target, and binds them. Damage is dealt every turn and if the Pokemon escapes, they are paralyzed and their Speed is lowered.
This is a line shorter than the other, but I feel like it could be condensed more.
proud crane
The user covers themselves in electricity and wraps around the target, dealing damage every turn and trapping the target. When the target is released, their Speed is lowered.
remote patrol
That works.
How about Cloudsplit?
It's... basically, Pikaviper moves so fast that illusory dark lightning clones are made. Then, it and the clones attack. The real one is basically just using Volt Tackle, the fakes are using Night Slash.
Your silence is... disconcerting.
remote patrol
Okay, so, how can I condense this mess?
The user moves rapidly and raises its evasiveness as it electrifies itself, making illusory copies that charge the target. If an opportunity arises, one of those copies could land a critical hit! But using this move risks damaging the user quite a lot. ```I want it to have the traits of these moves, but I also want to condense it.
Is there a better way to polish this?
slate stream
@remote patrol instead of saying it raises evasiveness make it so it ignory acuracy and evasion stats and has recoil but good damage
So it is like they make clones that can't miss
Also just scrap the night slash
remote patrol
Night Slash comes from Seviper. If I scrap it, I’d just be combining two of Pikachu’s moves.
hidden bison
A combination of meteor mash and thunder punch
junior lily
Thunderous Mash?
final kelp
Mewtwo and Rampardos Fusion: Type 1
Mewtwo and Rampardos Fusion: Type 2
Which one do y'all prefer?
final kelp
so basically type 1 is more defensive and speedy
type 2 is more powerful
i'd choose type 2 aswell
left flume
what is the best grass mon to fuse with in the game?
hidden bison
sunkern
hidden bison
Venusaur tangrowth sunken sceptile meganiun
proud crane
^this post made by leafeon gang
sleek elm
simple osprey
Leafeon one of the best eeveelutions for fusions
proud crane
It's got a wiggly bone
simple osprey
Also eww, alexonsager
copper briar
that doesnt sound menacing at all
final kelp
...that's how it strikes...
copper briar
marshadow can literally just hide in shadows
combine that with some pokemon that can do something with shadows
final kelp
bewear can litteraly kill with hugs
near scarab
Nah
copper briar
yes, so can rhyperior
near scarab
Shuckle better
copper briar
if it hugged you you would die
near scarab
You don't F-le with Schuckle
final kelp
bewear can do it easier than rhyperior
final kelp
bewear's might is stronger than that
copper briar
no u
final kelp
altho a ghost/flying would be a hard time for bewear
left flume
Brutal Swing/Rock Slide/Ice Punch
copper briar
lol
left flume
Thunderpunch
junior lily
Is there a good Fire/Ice special attacker?
final kelp
Would a zoroark/ditto fusion be good? Ik it isn't in the game, but just in general
illusion + transform lol
junior lily
it wouldn't be that great in Infinite Fusion, because you don't play against real people.
proud crane
A good illusion could bait a ghost or psychic attack or a switch, any of which would allow zoroditto a free turn to transform
but that's really situational and way less good than ditto's hidden ability
left flume
Just found one of my favourite fusions Honchcrow/Gallade, Super Luck with Psycho Cut, Night Slash and Leaf Blade xD
odd ledge
yeah that is a pretty good fusion.
slate stream
3 moves?
left flume
not just 3 moves but those are the ones he learns that have a high crit chance
hidden bison
ohhhhhh
whoops
im in the mood to make fusions atm, any requests?
Uhhh
Raichu/arcanine
left flume
Togekiss/Haunter
nova sparrow
ngl most of those fusions... really suck
nova sparrow
the exact shade of disgusting blue
hidden bison
legit the first fusions i made
and you dont need to hate
you could say they lack shading
odd ledge
Bee is always harsh
hidden bison
It's just how she does it
near scarab
Bee is Harsh
hidden bison
v
near scarab
Experiment with different systems
I had bad ones with paint.net but mine are now quite nice with Piskel
hidden bison
i have an app
nova sparrow
spriting on mobile
near scarab
Please