#fusions | Pokémon Infinite Fusion | Page 829

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:37 AM

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Well it is wrong based on interactons

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:37 AM

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Different. Continuity.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:37 AM

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Between moves/types

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:38 AM

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Again, it's apples and oranges.

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Pokemon the anime and Pokemon the games have some crossover in terms of aesthetics, but the differences are multitudinous enough to warrant calling them entirely different series.

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That said, if I had to approximate what Ash's Pikachu could do if fused with Jessie's Arbok and Seviper, I think I lowballed those stats.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:39 AM

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Well whatever

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I think its too strong

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Especially that speed

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:40 AM

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I mean. If we were being completely accurate to the anime, its HP would be like... five times higher.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:40 AM

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Where does the 130 come from

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:40 AM

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Anime feats.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:40 AM

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Even Raichu does not have that much speed

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:41 AM

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Ash's Pikachu beat Raichu in terms of speed WAY back in the original series.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:41 AM

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Let alone pikachu or the snakes

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:41 AM

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Seviper and Arbok's speed comes and goes as the plot demands.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:42 AM

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Well i dont rly know enough about the anime past season 1

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So idk how the seviper was portrayed

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But ye anyways still dont see a reason for those stats

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:44 AM

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I mean... maybe the reason you don't see why the stats are necessary is because you don't know the feats of the Pokemon involved in the fusion?

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There's an earlier version that's more "game accurate", if you prefer.

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hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:45 AM

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I mean all feats are meaningless when the pikachu that defeated legends lost to a starter Snivy

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I dont care if it could not use its ele moves

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:45 AM

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If I based the stats on everything Pikachu could do, and everything he couldn't, each number would just be 0-Infinity.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:45 AM

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Considering its power at the time one quick attack should have finished that battle

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And thats why i cant watch the anime

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:46 AM

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Again, I just posted a more "game accurate" version.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:46 AM

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It makes no sense

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:46 AM

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Look up.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:46 AM

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487 bst

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:47 AM

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K.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:47 AM

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Still a bit high

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But well nothing absurd

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:47 AM

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How would you rank the "game version" of this thing?

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:48 AM

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Hmm with those stats its fairly decent

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If it can use the light ball its broken

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Since it has 121 speed

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Doubling those atk stats will make it a monster sweeper

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Type combo is not ideal

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Ground weakness is bad

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Other than that its not too squishy

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So it can live a hit more often than not

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But most likely gonna get 2 shot

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:52 AM

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And your full judgment on the "anime" version? Understand, that one has access to all six of its Abilities simultaneously.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:52 AM

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Whut

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6 abilities

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:52 AM

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Yeah.

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Intimidate, Shed Skin, Static, Lightning Rod, Infiltrator, and Unnerve. All at the same time. That's what the anime version gets, alongside those busted stats.

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What is your full, total breakdown of that?

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:53 AM

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Well same as the game one

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But slightly better

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Apart from the abilities thing

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Just gonna repost it here so we can both see it more easily.

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hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Not many mons outspeed 120

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So 130 is not that much different from 120

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The other stats are the real buff

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100+ in attack means it hits decently hard

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And now its defenses are actually decent

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80 and higher is in the decent category

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100 and above is very good

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Anything below 70 is bad

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 7:57 AM

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And with the six Abilities all active?

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Simultaneously?

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 7:58 AM

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Eh

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Intimidate is the only great ability

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Static/lightning rod/shed skin/infiltrator arent bad

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But are very situational

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Same with Unnerve

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But well you dont have to worry about getting statused because of shed skin

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Lightning rod is an Ele immunity

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Static is a free chance at pralizing the opponent

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So with all of them active even if they are situational they are quite potent

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 8:05 AM

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The full suite basically makes the "anime" version a super fast, hard hitting glass cannon... but the glass can take small arms fire, and it stops Pokemon from eating berries, lowers their Attack stat, grants total immunity to electricity, creates a risk of paralyzation to enemy Pokemon, removes status effects every "turn" -- so every couple minutes, give or take -- and ignores decoys.

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Am I missing anything?

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 8:07 AM

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Lightning rod boosts sp atk when you get hit by ele moves iirc

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So its immunity + stat boost

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Its not a glass cannon with those stats btw

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Its defenses all have to be below 70 for it to be a glass cannon

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Wtf are you two on about

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That ridiculous pikachu/seviper fusion

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Stats are too high

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6 abilities at the same time

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Its retarded

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What game is it

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Idc

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Also yeah I agree 6 abils is dumb

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 8:11 AM

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Dumb and fun are not mutually exclusive.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 8:14 AM

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Maybe

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 8:24 AM

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I reworked its "anime" abilities.

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At this point, I'm just being silly for the sake of it.

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PIKARVIPER

HP: 070
At: 106
De: 080
SA: 080
SD: 080
Sp: 131

Typ: Electric/Poison

Na Abilities:
Disturb
Attack stat of enemy Pokemon is lowered, affected Pokemon cannot eat Berries

Galvanized Skin
1/3 chance of curing Pokemon of non-volatile statuses at the end of each turn, and if a status is removed the next non-electric attack is electric

Static Poison
25% chance of poisoning Pokemon that make contact, 25% of paralyzing Pokemon that make contact, additional 5% chance of both

DW Abilities:
Toxic Rod
Electric-type moves are drawn to the Pokemon and absorbed, raising its Special Attack and making its next non-electric attack poisonous

Nervous
Passes through the opposing Pokémon's barrier, substitute, and the like and strikes, 5% chance of paralysis, 5% of poisoning

Relentlous
The Pokemon's attacks become critical hits if the target is poisoned or paralysed, and the Pokemon's HP is restored if the target is poisoned and paralysed

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Keeping in mind that this thing is supposed to have all six of these abilities... what's the assessment?

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 8:36 AM

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They all are trash

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Wait all of them at once?

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Static poison and relentless are too op

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So is Nervous

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Disturb is okish but its second part of thr ability is useless outside of competitive

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GS and TR are trash comparatively

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 8:42 AM

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How would you improve GS and TR?

cosmic kindle Sep 7, 2019, 8:44 AM

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i think we should have a custom sprite for a Hitmontop fusion of some kind that's based off of Hitmontop's beta design, like how we have the Tyrogue/Teddiursa's custom sprite is based off of Tyrogue's beta design

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i'd make it myself, but i'm terrible when it comes to shading

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 10:19 AM

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Hitmontop Baltoy?

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If it is in the game

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 10:32 AM

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how come some fusions here are so good mixed up, i only get like really weird fusions lol

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like head pasted on the body

hybrid cave Sep 7, 2019, 10:33 AM

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custom sprites

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not all fusions have it

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 10:33 AM

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aaah

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is there a list or something with which fusions are custom?

pallid ore Sep 7, 2019, 10:34 AM

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Closest you get is #sprite-gallery + search function

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 10:34 AM

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k thnx 🙂

pallid ore Sep 7, 2019, 10:34 AM

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That way you're only missing the sprites from reddit

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 10:35 AM

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k ty m8

cosmic kindle Sep 7, 2019, 10:35 AM

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you can also find sprites here
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0Bx5WTzAX8jMnTE45NWJFRVVNUTQ

pallid ore Sep 7, 2019, 10:35 AM

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Yeah, you should just download all the sprite packs

hybrid cave Sep 7, 2019, 10:35 AM

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jimmey if u want a cool :x

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601719700929511426/601837013632548864/242.208.png

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:x

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normal steel

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 10:47 AM

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hahhahaa

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looks good xD

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but sprites pack?

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like custom sprites for in infinite fusion?

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 10:48 AM

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Yeh

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 10:48 AM

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all the 33 sprites packs?

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 10:48 AM

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Yeh

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 10:48 AM

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what map does it go in

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 10:49 AM

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It takes at least 1 hour

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It goes into custom battlers

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 10:49 AM

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worth it

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 10:49 AM

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Which is in graphic

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 10:49 AM

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ty 🙂

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just the complete maps i dont have to do any weird stuff haha

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?

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 10:50 AM

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Wat?

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 10:50 AM

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well the packs i download, i just put them complete in folder in the custom battles map?

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srry i never really mod games xD

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only the png's go into the custom battler folder

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not the folder of the sprite pack

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 11:21 AM

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ok ty 🙂 half way downloading now, sucks that i have to download 1 for 1 xD ah well worth it

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 11:36 AM

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yeah its totally worth it once you did it

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every month they add they add around 3 to 5 new sprite packs so you have to check back in once in a while

pallid ore Sep 7, 2019, 12:12 PM

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There are so many sprites now, that you actually encounter a lot of them, which is really nice

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 12:26 PM

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cant wait 😄

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1 pack takes ages right now xD how many GB are they lol xD

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with the super splicers, is the first one you choose count as the body?

junior lily Sep 7, 2019, 12:29 PM

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they're not that big. probably all the packs put together are less than 50 MB. The drive just turns the pack into a zip and then downloads it.

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 12:45 PM

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got this bad boy from the black market

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hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 12:46 PM

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ok downloaded them all, so they all go in custom battle folder? or only the sprite packs

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oeeeh looks good

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i also got like icon packs and one thats calld other

haughty jay Sep 7, 2019, 12:50 PM

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my fusion! 😄

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 12:58 PM

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what do you guys think of this fusion?

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sketch + transform

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 1:05 PM

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That defeats the purpose of sketch

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 1:06 PM

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not really, because this pokemon would always be a secondary

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basically if i see a good pokemon move, i switch to him, use sketch then transform

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and once i complete my moveset then i'll use him offensively without transforming

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 1:07 PM

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Let's see its statd

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You are much better off fusing it with something with bad stab or coverage

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 1:09 PM

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...yeah they're not that great...

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near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Exactly

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 1:11 PM

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so basically any fusion between those 4 is not good --_--

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 1:13 PM

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That's level fifty

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And none of the stats are over 100

haughty jay Sep 7, 2019, 2:09 PM

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weebok resized bad

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simple osprey Sep 7, 2019, 2:10 PM

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Oh eww

haughty jay Sep 7, 2019, 2:12 PM

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and i think need to custom to lol

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:01 PM

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I edited the "anime" version of Pikarviper. Better?


HP: 080
At: 108
De: 080
SA: 080
SD: 080
Sp: 121

Typ: Electric/Poison```
```Na Abilities: 
Disturb
Attack stat of enemy Pokemon is lowered, affected Pokemon cannot eat Berries, 10% chance of disabling an enemy Pokemon's Item for 4 rounds

Galvanized Skin
1/3 chance of curing Pokemon of non-volatile statuses at the end of each turn, and if a status is removed the next attack has a 15% chance of paralyzing enemy Pokemon

Static Poison
25% chance of poisoning Pokemon that make contact, 25% of paralyzing Pokemon that make contact, additional 5% chance of both

DW Abilities:
Toxic Rod
Electric-type and Poison-type moves are drawn to the Pokemon and absorbed, raising its Special Attack, 5% chance next attack poisons enemy Pokemon, 5% chance next attack paralyses enemy Pokemon

Nervous
Passes through the opposing Pokémon's barrier, substitute, and the like and strikes, 5% chance of paralysis, 5% of poisoning

Relentlous
The Pokemon's attacks become critical hits if the target is poisoned or paralysed, and the Pokemon's HP is restored if the target is poisoned and paralysed```

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Great

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Much better

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 4:10 PM

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wait we can talk about fused moves here too

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:11 PM

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well the channel is kinda called fusions

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:11 PM

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We can embrace our inner Rocket scientist and combine Pokemon for power, not just aesthetics.

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 4:11 PM

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ohh

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in that case

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Also, here's what this thing looks like as far as stat sheets and such are concerned.

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Would you believe I made this in Paint.net and Notepad?

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:18 PM

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pain.net no

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notepad yeh

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Smeargle + Ditto fused move:
Sketch + Transform = The user transforms into the enemy copying everything, but before anything can happen the user can also pick what move your pokemon can copy from it's moveset. Once copied that move will be transfered to the base (untransformed) Pokemon.

Happiny + Togepi fused move:
Metronome + Copycat = This move will always go last, and the enemy has to use an attacking move or this fails. After the enemy used an attacking move, the user copies that move and changes it to an attack corresponding to the type, randomizing it and using it. (Ex: Enemy used slash, the user registers that attack was a normal type and it will change it to another random normal type attack. (Ex: Hyper beam, fury swipes, etc))

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some of my ideas

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Sheer Drill (Dewgong/Nidoking)

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Added Type icons and fixed some of the stats.

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hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Why does it still have 6 abilites

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Anime.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Also toxic rod is

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well

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Same as each move but happens separately (First sheer cold and if it misses, it then uses horn drill)

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Very good

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:21 PM

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To get the 5% abilities, this lightning serpent needs to be attacked by a Poison or Electric move.

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I think out of the six abilities, that's the most conditional.

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Also static poison has a 55% chance of giving a physical attacker a status

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Yes.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Thats

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Very

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Dumb

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Air Balloon and this thing goes straight to ubers

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also

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this thing can evolve

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so it'll be even more OP

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Also

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:23 PM

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I think you successfully made something worse than mega rayquaza

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:23 PM

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It should start as pichu ekans and serviper

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:23 PM

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It should start as that.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:23 PM

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but

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It doesnt

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:23 PM

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pichu ekans seviper

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:23 PM

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I was willing to edit Arbok, Seviper, and Pikachu together.

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:23 PM

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pikachu arbok seviper

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Raichu arbok seviper

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Yeah. That's the evolutionary chain.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Yo why tf is spinaraks growl sound effect so cute

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:24 PM

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That's worse than no guard fissure accelgor

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Can someone explain why this is "worse" than Mega Rayquaza?

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Well

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Atleast it's not like my starters

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:25 PM

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well

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The thing just mauls pysical attackers

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which is one of it's only two weaknesses

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:25 PM

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And

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Air balloon prevents it from being by ground

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:25 PM

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the other being psychic which gets destroyed by crunch

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and with the base speed and attack already so high when it isn't fully evolved

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:27 PM

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I just wanted to fuse Pikachu, Arbok, and Seviper from the anime into a coherent whole. I didn't think my eugenics project would surpass the power of gods and legendaries.

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:27 PM

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well it did

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Suppose I'm not very smart. Can you explain, in full detail, everything that makes this busted?

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Is it just one thing, or is it a bunch of things?

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Fusions between 3 mons are always going to be a bit busted

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:28 PM

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...Yeeeaah, that actually sounds correct.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Like

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If i fuse vileplume and tangrowth

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I have a really bulky grass poison type

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But if I fuse it with rotom too

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Now it has levitate

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Access to electric ghost grass and poison moves

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All while having the best stat from each pokemon

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Move 1
Volt Tackle
Move 2
Crunch
Move 3
Poison Jab
Move 4
Toxic Spikes/Swords Dance/Agility
Item
Air Balloon
Ability
Static Poison
Nature
Adamant
Level 50/100
EVs
Attack 252 Def 4 Speed 252

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:30 PM

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ALSO

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THAT THING CAN USE LIGHT BALL

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:30 PM

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What's wrong with Light Ball?

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Dude

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:30 PM

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yeh but who's gonna use light ball over like Air Balloon

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WAIT

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Light ball makes pikachu a fucking monster

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:30 PM

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THE THING GETS MAGNET RISE

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Well if it did it would be destroyer of worlds

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:31 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20190907-173055_Chrome.jpg

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Doubles

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:31 PM

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base 216

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Move Tutor allows Magnet Rise.

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:31 PM

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wow

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:31 PM

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With 126 speed

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:31 PM

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WELL THE THINGS BROKEN ISN'T IT NOW

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Again, not sure how this is busted.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Ok

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Listen up

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Volt Tackle and Crunch

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and Poison Jab

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that destroys physical mons

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Fastest pokemon is speed deoxyes with 180 speed

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:32 PM

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with magnet rise

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:33 PM

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The only thing

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That that fusion doesn't outpseed is

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Those

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And few of them could actually be a threat

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It has 108 base attack which with light ball doubles to 216

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Deoxys forms destroyed by crunch

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ninjask gets hit by volt tackle

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electrode Can't do much

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Same with Jolteon

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Aerodactly has earthquake

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Aerodactyle Volt Tackle

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:35 PM

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But if you set up magnet rise

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Same with Crobat

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Or have air balloon

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They die

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Anywaus

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It has 108 base attack which with light ball doubles to 216

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126 speed

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:35 PM

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note that most of the mons are psysical attackers

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Fantastic movepool

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:36 PM

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which means you can't use em due to the ability

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Cripples psychical attackers

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HAS 6 DIFFERENT ABILITIES SO YOU DONT KNOW WHAT ITS GOT

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:36 PM

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It has all of them.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Atleast with tauros for example

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:36 PM

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well clearly it'll be using it's best

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wait

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it has ALL OF THEM AT ONCE

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:37 PM

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If it don't have intimidate

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Thats clear

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Also

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WHAT

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YOUR TELLING KE

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This thing

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:37 PM

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THERE IS A 55% CHANCE TO GET THE STATUS AND THEN IT HAS GUARANTEED CRITS FOR THE REST OF THE BATTLE]

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:37 PM

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And

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Gets stat boosts of its own types

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Which means you could easily boost it in doubles

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Can cure status

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And when it does that it can give the opponent status

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:39 PM

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you would need gravity to take it down

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:39 PM

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And if you spam substitute you can give your opponent status too

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That thing is actually op as fuck

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:39 PM

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next thing you are gonna say is it has levitate aswell

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:40 PM

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No. We've already established it's got that magnetic levitation thing, potentially. But I don't think it comes with that.

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But its evolved form includes Wobbufet.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:40 PM

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What

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It has another pokemon in the mix when it evolves

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Yeah.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:40 PM

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SO IT HAS SHADOW TAG TOO

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Oh that's great

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:41 PM

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It turns orange, those red icons on the front gain some blue and resemble Wobuffet's face, and it gets access to Wobuffet's movepool.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:41 PM

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That one really stupid ability that is the reason wobbafet is in ubers

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:41 PM

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but now it's much worse

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no light ball

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plus no coverage for the dark types

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:41 PM

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No dude

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It's raichu

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Serviper

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Arbok

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Wobuffet

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:42 PM

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mate just no

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Yeah, Nutleaf's got it right. That's the evolved version of this.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:42 PM

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W H Y

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:42 PM

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might aswell just mix all thye top pokemon of each stat

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Team Rocket's blasting off at the speed of light.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Shadow tag is so broken and you give it to that

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It's literally arena trap but effects everything

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:43 PM

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the thing it it's main electric stab has recoil

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Know what

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Just please

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:43 PM

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I'm going to make a fusion

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:43 PM

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For the Sake of all humanity

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:43 PM

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That completely fucks that one

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:43 PM

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I mean, it's a fusion of Ash's Pikachu and Jessie's Seviper and Arbok.

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So it'll never evolve.

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:43 PM

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don't give a better Electric stab

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:44 PM

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What is a stab?

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Same Type Attack Bonus

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:44 PM

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I mean, technically this has that?

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Well uh

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Unless I'm missing something?

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:44 PM

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I've already hatched a plan

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:44 PM

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The Corporation needs you to find the difference between these 2 pictures

📎 47.293.png

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:44 PM

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My three pokemon shall be

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:45 PM

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📎 Z.png

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Aerodactly

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Metagross

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Liepard

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Why you may ask

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Actually

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No no

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Aerodactly metagross and sableye

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:46 PM

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F.E.A.R rattata

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Pfft no

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Rock/steel type

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 4:46 PM

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shedinja mewtwo and deoxys

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Prankster

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Mega evolve too

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Ya'll need a Fairy/Steel version of Mega Gengar.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Quicker than the op pikachu

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Amazing defences

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Attacking power

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Movepool

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Mine's just gonna be A steel type with lightning rod and magic guard

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wait

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he has five abilities

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we got fair game

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Hmmm what are my abilities

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:47 PM

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I'm in love with this discussion right now and can't wait to see the sprites and stat sheets you guys make.

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:48 PM

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Cannot be statused, Wonder guard,Levitate pure electric type

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:48 PM

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You can combine different abilities to make new ones, you know.

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That's how I got all six of Pikarviper's abilities.

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:48 PM

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Oh ho ho

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Imma have funnn

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:49 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20190907-174752_Chrome.jpg 📎 Screenshot_20190907-174804_Chrome.jpg 📎 Screenshot_20190907-174741_Chrome.jpg

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Soooo

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:49 PM

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I eagerly await the incoming stat sheet and Sprites.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:49 PM

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No accuracy drops

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No recoil

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No berries for u

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You lose double pp

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Not stall

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Lmao that's shit

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:50 PM

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10% chance of disabling an Item for 4 turns.

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That's what Pikarviper has.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Prankster is priority on status moves

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Clear body just eliminates status drops

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Less weight so moves like grass knot don't fuck you

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Would you like to see the megas base stats

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:52 PM

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I don't actually know what the base stats are, without the mega.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Just out of interest

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Did you just pick the highest stat

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Or combine them

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:53 PM

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I combined them, divided the end result by 2.5, added 10 to each, then adjusted them according to advice I received here and from a friend.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Right

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Well I'm just gonna pick the highest stat

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:54 PM

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That doesn't seem in the spirit of things... I say as I look at my abomination against peace.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Hp: 80
Attack: 145
Defence: 150
Special attack: 105
Special defence: 115
Speed: 150

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📎 Screenshot_20190907-175620_Chrome.jpg 📎 Screenshot_20190907-175604_Chrome.jpg

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With those abilites added

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So

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Meateor mash and all other contact moves

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Doubled

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Status moves go first

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Can't lower my stats

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Stealth rocks toxic etc gets reflected

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You can't eat berries

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You lose double pp

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No recoil

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Weigh less

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 4:58 PM

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you're still gonna get hit by that 25% to paralyse

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give it limber

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 4:58 PM

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In a world where Pokemon can fuse together, or are already fused, Pikarviper is actually low tier.

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If you think about it.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 4:59 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20190907-175908_Chrome.jpg

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Also

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Hefty type

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Steel dark

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:00 PM

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give it the inner fighter ability

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Can't be hit by fighting type moves

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what up Chippy

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Lmao

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That would be a piss take

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But what fighting pokenon out speeds this monster

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:00 PM

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also levitate and thick fat

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and also wonder guard

proud crane Sep 7, 2019, 5:00 PM

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My two cents: instead of having six simultaneous abilities (which quickly becomes overwhelming to think about) give it three ability slots, each with two potential abilities, so it's more customizable

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:00 PM

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No

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I'm just using the abilites provided

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No levitate

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:01 PM

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oh yeh

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:01 PM

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No wonder gaurd

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:01 PM

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I'm gonna make that poochyena fusion NutleaF

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Cool

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Tbh now I really wanna see a fusion between mega metagross aerodactly and sableye

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:02 PM

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actually nah

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Imma make a split evo mon

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Hmmmm

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Which mon

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:03 PM

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apart from poliwag are there any 3 stage split evo mons?

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Ralts and gallade

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I guess

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Vileplume

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Bellosom

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Slowbro

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Slowking

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Wurmple has one

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Mawile + Gengar + Shedinja would probably win against Pikarviper.

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:05 PM

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imma do ralts

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Eevee

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Oooooh.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Tyrone

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Snorunt

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Nincada

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Clampearl

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 5:06 PM

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A combination of ALL the Eevolutions.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Burmy

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Rockruff

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Cosmog

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:06 PM

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IK

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i seached up on Bulbapedia

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Good

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:06 PM

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it also give you the stat differences

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:07 PM

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If you do ralts

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:07 PM

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yeh wat

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:07 PM

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I'll have it so it evolves into gardevoir or gallade though gender

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So pick whatever the fuck you want

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:07 PM

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kk

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:07 PM

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WHY IS MY LATOP DYING AT 30

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Stop

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:07 PM

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I'll do Poliwrath and Gallade for physical attack

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Hmmm

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There's already mad water types

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:08 PM

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k

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I'll do oddish then

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Ight

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Psychic poison is cool

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:09 PM

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One could be psychic grass

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and the other poison fighting

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Hmmm

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I like that

pallid ore Sep 7, 2019, 5:10 PM

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I don't get this discussion, at all

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What am I missing, so many abilities and shit

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:11 PM

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hmm

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Oddish body or head?

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 5:12 PM

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@pallid ore I made a fusion of Ash’s Pikachu and Jessie’s Seviper and Arbok. It was busted. People decided to make their own busted fusion. We are now power wanking for fun and profit.

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:13 PM

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No @pallid ore he didn't

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Uhhh

pallid ore Sep 7, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Yeah I saw that fusion, it really was busted.

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:13 PM

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he made the most broken thing in the game

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:13 PM

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just saying that a shedinja + mewtwo + deoxys fusion would mollywop that fusion

pallid ore Sep 7, 2019, 5:13 PM

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But why so many abilities

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:13 PM

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nope

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:13 PM

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@near scarab Whatever's easier

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:13 PM

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crunch

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would smacc that thing

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:14 PM

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nope

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:14 PM

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216 base attack

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focus sash

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that thing will die

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:14 PM

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you forgetting about the combined hp + deoxys's other forms

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:14 PM

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the thing doesn't care

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it will die

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:14 PM

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my thing doesn't care too

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your thing will die

pallid ore Sep 7, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Wonderguard + Sturdy?

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No guard + Ko moves?

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:14 PM

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It5 wasn't mine

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also

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the abilities

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55% status chance

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guaranteed crit if you are poisoned

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or paralysed

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times 5 damge if you hav the Poison paralysis

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:17 PM

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disable + knock off, would be a move that would disable that pokemon's move and it would knock his item off

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:18 PM

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ah yes

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but you forgot

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knock off makes contact

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you risk the 55% chance of status

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and disable will not work since you are faster

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you will be one crunched

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:20 PM

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then my poke will hold the item lagging tail

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which would make it attack last

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:21 PM

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Well that's an even worse idea

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because now it can get off an SD

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:21 PM

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i mean anything for disable + knock off to work

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:21 PM

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You'd need disbale trick lagging tail

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:21 PM

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plus recover + heal block would be a move which would heal me and block the enemy to heal

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:22 PM

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It doesn't get healing muves

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:22 PM

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mewtwo and deoxys gets recover, shedinja gets heal block

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:22 PM

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No

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Pikaviper doesn't get healing moves

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:22 PM

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i was talking about my pokemon

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:22 PM

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also wonder guard means you must have 1 hp

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:23 PM

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wrong shedinja has 1 hp

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wonder guard doesn't do that

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and with mewtwo's and deoxys's combined hp will be good

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Nope

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:24 PM

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look it up

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:24 PM

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One Cruinch Pikaviper will destroy your life

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Ik in normal games

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but in IF it makes it have 1 hp

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:24 PM

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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shedinja_(Pokémon)

Shedinja_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:24 PM

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plus you must average

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:24 PM

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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Wonder_Guard_(Ability)

Wonder Guard (Ability)

Wonder Guard (Japanese: ふしぎなまもり Mysterious Protection) is an Ability introduced in Generation III. It is the signature Ability of Shedinja.

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:25 PM

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YES I KNOW

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I SAID I KNOW THAT

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:25 PM

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shedinja has 1 hp, wonder guard doesn't

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:25 PM

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I KNOW

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:25 PM

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i thought you said the opposite

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:25 PM

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also you are pitting a fusion of 6 mons

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against a fusion of 3

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:25 PM

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6?

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:25 PM

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all deoxys forms make 4

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plus shedinja and mewtwo

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:26 PM

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the form can be changed when you're not battling

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and only 1 form can be used in the fusion

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so it's 3

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Just use sableye aerodactly and metagross

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And then mega evolve them

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:27 PM

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tbh you can say the same thing for shedinja + mewtwo + deoxys

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mega evolve them and it's r.i.p

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 5:28 PM

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I like that you have to combine six high-powered Pokemon to fight the fusion of three relatively weak Pokemon.

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:28 PM

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it's 3 pokemon, you can change deoxys's form when you're not battling

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litteraly look deoxys up, i'm only combining him, not all of his forms

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 5:30 PM

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I mean. Each of Deoxys' forms is listed as an entirely different Pokemon.

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So...

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That's six.

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:31 PM

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which form to use aginst it

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:32 PM

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ahem i'm using this

📎 unknown.png

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Which form do you pick

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To fight

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:33 PM

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uhh

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attack one

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:33 PM

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The thing has no defenses

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it'll get One Crunched

pallid ore Sep 7, 2019, 5:34 PM

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I'm just confused about the rules tbh.
Rn it feels like that game of one upping your elementary school buddy by saying your mirror is stronger than his, then he says "bruh I've got a double mirror tho" "F you I'll always have one more mirror than you"
thisclown 🔎 ⚡ 🔍 evil

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:34 PM

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you're litteraly forgetting about mewtwo

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Crunch.

pallid ore Sep 7, 2019, 5:34 PM

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What about the fused moves and changed abilities, can you just make them up?

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:34 PM

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MEWTWO has not got enough defenses to back up the other 2 m,ons

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 5:34 PM

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I did.

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So, sure.

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Basing off bulbapedia, your pokemon fusion would have combined defense of 169
And my pokemon would have 195.

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that is if you put normal form deoxys

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:36 PM

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combined

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:36 PM

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if you put attack form...

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 5:37 PM

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I didn't straight-up combine the stats.

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:37 PM

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remember

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:37 PM

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then yeah you can one shot

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:37 PM

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you have to divide by 2.5

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 5:37 PM

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I took the total stats, divided them by 2.5, then added 10 to each. After that, I redistributed the results according to advice from here.

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:37 PM

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tbh i just realised that normal form deoxys would be better in this fight

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:38 PM

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your best bet is to hope it uses sd

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then trick its focus sash and your lagging tail

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and then hope for a KO with psychic

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or a 2Ko

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:38 PM

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? didn't the pokemon have combined moves?

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so why would it use psyhic when it can use a stronger move?

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shedinja's phantom force + psycho boost

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:39 PM

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nope

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we didn't have combined moves

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also what type is your mon?

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:40 PM

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how is the typing calculated?

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:40 PM

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@hidden bison

📎 43.280.png

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:40 PM

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also psycho boost is way better than psyhic

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:40 PM

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all types are fused

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so ghost psychic bug

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 5:40 PM

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I just wanna see mega sableye mega metagross and mega aerodactly combined

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Also nice

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:41 PM

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that typing would actually be dangerous tho

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ghost + psychic

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and bug on top of that

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:42 PM

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dude

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weak to fire

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quad weak to ghost

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rock flying dark

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all coverage moves this mad thing getrs

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:44 PM

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i mean it resists electric and poison

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the only thing that would be super effective would be dark

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nvm it only resists poison (the calculator was confusing)

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:45 PM

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but womnder guard so

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:46 PM

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wonderguard would make dark type moves pass through, but would not insta kill it

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plus if my strategy is right, it would go like this

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:47 PM

#

also

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Your poke would use crunch (first turn)
My poke would use disable (second turn)
Your poke (does something)
My poke uses recover

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:47 PM

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you're forgetting smth

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Also the mon would use SD first

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:47 PM

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sd?

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:48 PM

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ou're using 2 legendaries to take out a Not fully evolved pokemon

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Swords Dance

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:48 PM

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swords dance.. in that case..

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wait what would your poke hold

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:51 PM

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exactly my point

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you're planning out

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:51 PM

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because if your poke holds something like light ball, after it uses swords dance it would use knock off

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and boom no more insta ko's

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after that it would use crunch, resist it, then disable

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:52 PM

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you wouldn't know any of this stuff normally

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:52 PM

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afterwards recover

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:52 PM

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you're planning

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:52 PM

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so?

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this evolved into a debate

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:52 PM

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also Knock Off would almost guarantee a poison or paralyse

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 5:53 PM

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I mean. I'm just curious who the trainer would be.

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:53 PM

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fam it doesn't matter my poke would just use recover

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:53 PM

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You would't normally know this stuff

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Remember, I made this thing based on the anime Pokemon.

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So the trainer would be... Ashie, I guess.

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But who the hell is going to be the trainer for whatever Pokefusion is going up against Pikarviper?

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:53 PM

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wouldn't it technically be team rocket because of arbok and seviper

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 5:54 PM

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A fusion of Jessie and Ash resulting in a fusion of Arbok, Seviper, and Pikachu...

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:54 PM

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that one trainer who had those legendary

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in that one league

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 5:54 PM

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The one who cheated Ash out of the win that time?

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You're gonna have to be more specific.

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:54 PM

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hold on

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OH! Tobias

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and a trainer called "Colonel Hansen" had shedinja

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:56 PM

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I mean sure it will take it down

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but the fact that you need to fuse 2 legendaries to beat this thing

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is great

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try take it down with non legandaries

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:57 PM

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i mean i wanted to fuse those 3 just because i was curious WHO would defeat this thing

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thing thing as in my thing

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:57 PM

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plus knocking off the light ball wouldn't do anything

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the thing cannot let go of it

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:57 PM

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a mewtwo shedinja and deoxys fusion... who would defeat that?

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that's what i was questioning in my head

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Who would win

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:58 PM

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a fused legendary with a nearly invincible pokemon

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:58 PM

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A 2 legionaries at level 100 and a pokemon only able to be hit by super effective moves

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:58 PM

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or one derpy boi

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 5:58 PM

#

what form deoxys?

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:58 PM

#

normal

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:59 PM

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or a level one leeching Spikey boi

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 5:59 PM

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not def or atk?

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:59 PM

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atk form would lower the fusion's defences

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

attack gets OHKO'd

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Defense cannot deal any damage

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:59 PM

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and def.... idk

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 5:59 PM

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so does shedinja

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:59 PM

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@near scarab actually

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 5:59 PM

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your point?

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 5:59 PM

#

def form might be carried by mewtwo

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also shedinja boosts the fusion with 1 HP, wonder guard doesn't reduce the pokemon's hp to 1

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so my fusion would be safe

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as it would have the combined hp of mewtwo and deoxys

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:01 PM

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wait

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you know deoxys normal form plus mewtwo plus shedinja

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it's defense is only base 80

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not tanky enough

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:02 PM

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ahem mewtwo's defence is 100

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or 90 whatv

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

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it's only 90

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

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90 + 80 + 1

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

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does shed really tank def that hard?

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

deoxys has 40 base defense

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shedinja has 45

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add them up is 175

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

G

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

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then divide it by 2.5 like we did and add 10

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

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wait crap deoxys has 50 defence nvm

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:03 PM

#

we get base 80

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it has 40 defense

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wait no fifty

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Why

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Does

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Shedinja

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Have defence

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:04 PM

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good point

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:04 PM

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It should be -0

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:04 PM

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base 84

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only base 84

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Why lol

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:05 PM

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LOL WAIT shedinja has 45 defence

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:05 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20190907-190533_Chrome.jpg

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Give it 1 def

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:06 PM

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while defense mode it has a respectable base 128

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:06 PM

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And put it into speed

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:06 PM

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^

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:06 PM

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ours has base 108 attack

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:07 PM

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90 + 50 + 45 = 185 divided by 2,5 = 74

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and added means +? (i'm not american)

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:07 PM

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plus 10

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which is 84

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:07 PM

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yeah 84

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:07 PM

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yeh

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at level 50

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:08 PM

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ATK: 110 + 90 + 150 = 350

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divided by 2,5 = 140

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then it's 150

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:09 PM

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our mon has 215 attack at level 50

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plus light ballmeans

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:09 PM

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yeah since when

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:09 PM

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430 at level 50

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:09 PM

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the added stats aren't that much

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:09 PM

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it has base 108 attack

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so 215 at level 50

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light ball doubles attack

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and Spatack

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:10 PM

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wdym at lvl 50?

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does it have 108 atk at lvl 0 or what?

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Loom at Zygarde's hp

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The Snakachu has the same base attack as 50%'s hp

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:10 PM

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why are we putting zygarde into the discussion

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:11 PM

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because 50% Zygarde has the same base HP as our fusion

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nothing has the same base attack

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:11 PM

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oh wait a min

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:11 PM

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so we have to use other stats

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:11 PM

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i just saw "lvl 50" thing

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lemme calculate too

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:11 PM

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calculat what

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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did you calculate max atk or low

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or middle

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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max

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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k

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467,8 base atk at lvl 50

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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what

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:12 PM

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even your light ball can't compete

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:13 PM

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what has?

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:13 PM

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my fusion

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:13 PM

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your fusion may have better attack

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but ours is fater

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faster

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:13 PM

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what's the max speed at lvl 50

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:13 PM

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and can deal much more damage

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Nope, just desproved you into the atk stat (even if you're holding light ball)

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the only way you'd deal more dmg if you'd use a super effective move

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:14 PM

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but crunch does do super effective damage

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also psycho boost is special

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Hold up

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What's your op fusion

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:14 PM

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you have to look at Shedinja's special attack

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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also base speed at lvl 50 is 399,8

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Mewtwo + shedinja + deoxys (normal form)

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Boooooo

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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i'm calculating this fusion because i'm curious who would beat it

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Legendaries are cheap

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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CHEAP

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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TBH an ultra beast fused with a mythic would defeat this

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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E X T R A C H E A P

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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we made a good mon out of non legendaries

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:15 PM

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😎 sorry not sorry

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:16 PM

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we refuse your challenge

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CHEAP

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:16 PM

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i mean you already accepted it, we're debating for 30 mins

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or 40 idk

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Bitch, I made a five star meal off the dollar menu, and here you come in actin' all high class.

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/jk

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Yeh but I didn't know I was playing with A CHEAPsTER

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Sorry not sorry bro! Challenges come every time

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:17 PM

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I don't strictly care what Pokemon are picked, I just love the idea that the only thing someone could come up with to beat Pikarviper was a fusion of legendaries.

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And I made this thing from low tiers.

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:17 PM

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I mean i only came up with that fusion because i would be interested on WHO WOULD BEAT IT, i didn't care about your fusion really

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ludistoise just stepped in and next thing, we we're debating

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:18 PM

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CHEAP

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beat it with NU and PU mons

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:18 PM

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i could beat this with dunsparse shedinja

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:18 PM

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ONE CRUUUUUUUUUNCH

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:18 PM

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i litteraly just debated on how op this thing is wat

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plus let's not note that it has other forms and can mega evolve

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but i don't want to go that far.. so heh

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:20 PM

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thing has no real dark atks, and ghost stab reks it

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ez win

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:20 PM

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mhm

nova sparrow Sep 7, 2019, 6:20 PM

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i think that geoxys gets knock off

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in at least one of its games

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:20 PM

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one atk

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one

nova sparrow Sep 7, 2019, 6:20 PM

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oh

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uh

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okay

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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wdym one atk

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Question: Does Ash have another Pokemon that's just as iconic as Pikachu?

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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dunsparse shedinja

nova sparrow Sep 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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deoxys gets dark pulse by tm

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Or is that the be-all, end-all?

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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tsch this thing can learn phantom force and psycho boost

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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normal ghost

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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here also @hidden bison you have to size down the Oddaalts

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pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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wonder guard

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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oh wait normal

nova sparrow Sep 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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if it has better special

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that physical

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because dark pulse is special

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obv

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Ight

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:22 PM

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WAIT... dunsparce? the atk would tottaly overwhelm the dunspace/shedinja fusion

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Being a fusion of three Pokemon, translated to game terms, this thing wouldn't be limited to having only four moves.

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:22 PM

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I like how I'm just making fusion while this unfolds

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:22 PM

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You realize that Pikarviper would have like... 10 move slots, right?

nova sparrow Sep 7, 2019, 6:22 PM

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you could roll dark pulse, psychic/psystrike, calm, mind, and a couple other things

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sounds p hot to me

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:22 PM

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i love how he needs 3 mons to fuse

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:22 PM

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in that case my fusion does too 😴

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@pallid egret fam we were talking about 3 mon fusions

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Ah yes. Your fusion between Legendaries and Ubers.

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:22 PM

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you just stepped in with two mon fusions

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Again, I like that you had to go super-cheap to beat Pikarviper.

nova sparrow Sep 7, 2019, 6:23 PM

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so ive rolled upa three way fusion to make

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final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:23 PM

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I like that you guys are ignoring what i said, i wanted this pokemon to challenge other pokemon

nova sparrow Sep 7, 2019, 6:23 PM

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and it sounds kinda hmm

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:23 PM

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It demonstrates that you lacked the creativity to combine low-tiers into something god-like.

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:23 PM

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i could just add dark and win

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Ĺòòķ

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:23 PM

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I combined that so someone can come up with a fusion to defeat it!

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I didn't care about any pokemon!

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Stop being rude to eachother

nova sparrow Sep 7, 2019, 6:24 PM

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what type is the fusion of mewtwo deoxys and shedinja?

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:24 PM

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"I didn't care about any pokemon!" Calm down, Paul.

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:24 PM

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plus combine the shedinja/dunsparce fusion with ditto or mew and my fusion is done (i think)

nova sparrow Sep 7, 2019, 6:24 PM

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and i havent seen the stats either

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:24 PM

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guys

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I have found out the ultimate fusion

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:24 PM

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@remote patrol You're litteraly saying that i wanted to fight a specific pokemon

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:24 PM

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dark normal ghost wonder guard just doesnt die iirc

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:24 PM

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You kept ignoring what i said, and continuing on your thoughts

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:25 PM

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fuse all the mons in the game with the best in each stat

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Oh my god

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:25 PM

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The people who @'d me saying they would defeat my fusion, i just simply argued with them

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:25 PM

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You kept ignoring what i said, and continuing on your thoughts

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:25 PM

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@pallid egret Moonbalst

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:25 PM

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pot

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kettle

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black

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Moonbalst?

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:25 PM

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shoot forgot fairy is annoying

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Right

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Gonna have to explain...

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:26 PM

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We should all make a 3 way fusion

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:26 PM

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MoonBalst for victory

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:26 PM

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No legendaires

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No megas

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:26 PM

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So in conclusion, i made my pokemon for others to challenge me. Not for me to challenge them

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:26 PM

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See who can come up with the best

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Says as he challenges each fusion posted

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Your all braindead I swear

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:27 PM

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You're litteraly forgetting that the people challenged me right?

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:27 PM

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scroll up homie

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:27 PM

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You weren't in the discussion, you weren't here

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The hell you talking about?

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:27 PM

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if you wanted to not challenge

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:27 PM

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EVERYONE CALM DOWN

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:27 PM

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you wouldntve been arguing "oh it cam mega. its unbeatable!" smh

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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I agree

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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I posted my pokemon

I told other people "who would beat this"

Other people challenge'd it.

I responded.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Fucking shut up

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No one cares

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Plus i argued with facts, the one who should be shutting up is you.

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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I like the idea of everyone making 3-way fusions.

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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No

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Lol

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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That'd be cool.

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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You can't come in discussions like this and hope to end it.

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Magikarp Arceus is the best fusion

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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I can

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Also: "i argued with facts"

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Cause I was in it before you mate

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Wow.

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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You ain't the boss of anyone. Put this in your mind

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Guys stop

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Oh really? and i'm supposed to care?\

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What a joke. Hahah

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Yes

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Chippy's gonna come and gonna kick us all

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So please

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Stahp

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Ight

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:29 PM

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I'm stopping if they agree to stop aswell

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:29 PM

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👌 👌

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Right then

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3 way fusions

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1 ability

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No legends

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No mythical

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No ultra beast

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No megas

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Sound fair

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:30 PM

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No shedinja

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:30 PM

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True

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:30 PM

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We've seen too much of him

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:30 PM

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rip wg

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Wg is kinda busted ngl

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Oh btw

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Choose one ability from each pokemon and combine them into 1

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Blissey (hp) + Shuckle (def) + Electrode (speed)

They all have highest stats of what i mentioned. (also electrode is 5th, but all others are on the "banned list")

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also idk what ability to choose too many

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Gliscor amoongus and Dragonite

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Poison heal combined regenerator and multiscale

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Garchomp Aegislash Metagross

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Clear Body

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:34 PM

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ALSO! The 3 way fusion only gets to have 3 types, so the fusion doesn't get too complicated

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Kingest of the shields

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:34 PM

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togekiss, cinncino, dunsparse. Super Luck, Serene Grace, and skill link with stab tail slap and kings rock, along with air slash ancientpower and softboiled

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:34 PM

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K

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:34 PM

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kk

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actually

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:34 PM

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That's good

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Nah I'm STicking with mine

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Steel Dragon Psychic

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:35 PM

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if normal is immune, can use bullet seed or rock blast

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Mate

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:35 PM

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steel Dragon Ghost

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Sawsbuck might be better than dusparce

pallid egret Sep 7, 2019, 6:36 PM

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youre right

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it gets serene too

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Grass normal and fairy

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Instead of normal fairy flying

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:36 PM

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wait what is Steel Dragon Ghost weak too?

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Uhhh

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Fire Ground

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Dragon

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:37 PM

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not Dragon

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Steel resists dragon

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:37 PM

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here http://jakerodelius.com/web/pokemon-calc/index.html

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Oh

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:37 PM

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dark ghost

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Also i change gliscor for breloom

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:37 PM

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it calcs stats including 3 stats

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Fighting poison and dragon

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Actually

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Ima change

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:39 PM

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📎 unknown.png

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Primarina

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Dragonite

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Stance See though Skin

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Moves how do they work?

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Primarina Dragonite and slowbro

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:40 PM

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I'd say 3 stab and 3 coverage

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Abilty combination

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Liquid voice multiscale and regorator

near scarab Sep 7, 2019, 6:41 PM

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So Meteor Mash Shadow Claw and Dragon Claw for stab

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Aqua Tail for the ground

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Covered ghost

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Sacred Sword for Dark

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and King's sheild

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MM

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seems decent

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Bidoof+Sunkern+Unown
UNKERDOOF

HP 65
at 69
de 57
sa 65
sd 57
sp 54

Grass/Psychic

Abilities;
Icarus: The Pokemon floats in the air, ignoring Ground attacks and, while attacking in daylight, ignores stat changes; also, every turn its speed doubles and there is a 1/3 chance that either one random stat is increased by 15%, or the enemy Pokemon becomes Confused.

copper briar Sep 7, 2019, 6:50 PM

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that ability is fucking broken

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it does too much

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:51 PM

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It's a fusion of three Pokemon.

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Of course the one ability it gets will be busted.

copper briar Sep 7, 2019, 6:51 PM

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you

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just let it have the option of 3 abilities

remote patrol Sep 7, 2019, 6:51 PM

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The other abilities are stronger, though.

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So I'm not sure that's better.

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:52 PM

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alright y'all, since you guys are so good at combining stuff

pallid ore Sep 7, 2019, 6:52 PM

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This triple fusion thing doesn't really translate well into games

final kelp Sep 7, 2019, 6:52 PM

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how would this combined move work? Conversion (1) + transform

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now this is a hard move to combine

pallid ore Sep 7, 2019, 6:52 PM

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You can't fit all of their characteristics into one pkmn that is not broken

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Just combine lock on and a Ko move thisclown

hidden bison Sep 7, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Or