#fusions
pallid ore
brittle flume
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unique hawk
That's sort of how Vilesaur worked too, just like, GigaDrain/Leech seed/Synthesis/Toxic.
Ain't killing that... :)
Love how you intentionally lowered its speed lol...
pallid ore
I think everything else would have been worse, not sure 🤔
unique hawk
Plus it wants to go last. Take hit, life steal.
pallid ore
Yeah and draining moves as first moving is painful
hidden bison
Generally with natures lowering the lowest bst stat and increasing the highest gives the best results
Unless you are lowering defenses
Thats not a good idea normally
pallid ore
Though technically it doesn't matter, cause if I don't one shot, you want to go first, in case you bring him so low that you dont heal enough by killing him
Either one could be bad
unique hawk
Lowering defense is ideal for me many times because of my penchant for running speedy, few weakness guys.
hybrid cave
togekiss vaporeon, cant wait for sylveon (if sylveon comes)
unique hawk
Like most of the game was carried by a Porygon/Gengar (weak only to dark, had levitate), Gyaraizard (Fire/Water, nasty strong but hates special electrics) a Fearow/Donphan (the electric answer...) and my stall-tank starter. :)
hybrid cave
just get a steelix blissey
and i bet
u got like need of 3 pokemons
when it comes to countering elements
XD
unique hawk
My team was about the same, I had a few guys that just rotated a lot for covering.
unique hawk
Yeah, Vilesaur was more vulnerable, but leech seed/Giga Drain made that a non-issue.
hybrid cave
well
it might be also due
the elemnts u gotta face arent often those weakness of grass
fire should be fair, but ice flying
hybrid cave
steel itself is broken tbh
its just multiple elements might make it weaker actualy
due some other elements have simply to much weakness
unique hawk
That's my issue with ground, I pretty much exclusively pair it with flying or water. Sometimes fire.
hybrid cave
i mean, if u look at this, steel itself is broken
unique hawk
I mean... I ALWAYS have at least 1 fire and/or fighting guy...
unique hawk
Yeah, I'm not exactly trying to say Vilesaur is the best fusion tank evur, but like.. it worked. :)
hybrid cave
this is steelix stats and for his weakness its not actualy that much
fire should be the main issue only kind of
even at x2 for fighting and ground
def makes it actualy up to go against x2
proud crane
Water more than fire
hybrid cave
thats a yea no situation actualy
for some reasons
water is effective on steelix
but its not realy effective on steel itself
water is at x1 on steel type
unique hawk
I'd probably run this thing in a game where I took not-bulbasaur. :)
pallid ore
Just remembered my other drain move fusion, this one's actually good (except for abilities, they're all trash sadly)
I guess it's good in a sun team (except it's not) 
hybrid cave
@proud crane steelix is normaly steel ground, so yea my point is proved when u fuse with steel u give another weakness, but pure steel itself is broken
proud crane
okay, I missed the context and was just talking about steelix
hybrid cave
lol
i just wanted to say when u got steelix as a steel type, 2 of his weakness does not realy count as a weakness giving its stats
fighting ground is x2 but he has like 500 def while enough hp
proud crane
as long as you avoid fusing into a 4x weakness
hybrid cave
not realy +-
it depends the stats as well
for exsample
steelix blissey will give x4 to fighting
but def in calculator is 136 while hp is 195
then u got fire ground x2
special def 111
i mean, if this is the only backdraw u get
for the many elements u can counter
its quite a nice deal
u counter more then u get countered
and ofc u gotta look in most situations not all situations, cause there will always be a counter
3 weakness 3 normals and rest are resistable
thats a big nice deal
6 elements that can be from very effective to somewhat effective out of 18 elements
thats surely more of a good news then bad news
the ones that can counter u is 1/3 on scale, wich is 1/6 very effective
+-
unique hawk
How do we feel about Shuckle/Steelix? 😆
hybrid cave
well
less op then blissey steelix due hp alone xD
also elemental weakness will be bigger and less having benefits towards other elements
high dmg reduction though, but with hp, not realy worth it
actualy
shedinja with shuckle can be a thing
shuckle has very high def and sp def
and shuckle has a skill to change the defensive stat to offens
giving that skil combined with wonder gaurd
and they both suck already on hp so
xD
unique hawk
Ehhhh true... seems kinda meh though. :)
hybrid cave
bug rock weak to steel water and rock
def 168
basicaly if u conver that
u got attack 168
unique hawk
Wouldn't be bug rock, bug/steel.
hybrid cave
i speak of shedinja shuckle
unique hawk
Ah, yeah, there's way better for him though.
hybrid cave
ignore offensive stats
just look at defensive
since shuckle can convert it
also other option since u normaly can with arceus ability change element type with plate
bug normal xD
bug mostly weak to special move so if u change normal type that aint so weak to def type, u good to go basicaly
unique hawk
So... Moltres always fuses Fire... does Ho-Oh fuse flying? In theory.. Moltres/Ho-oh = Fire/Flying & Ho-oh/Moltres = pure fire.
hybrid cave
i think if they have the same following order of element then yes
ill see
ho oh with moltress depending what following order gives only fire or fire fly
unique hawk
Yup, does work that way then.
hybrid cave
only fire better stats and less weakness tbh
unique hawk
So, you could do the same with Charizard... Charizard/Moltres = Pure fire, or Ho-oh/Charizard = pure fire.
hybrid cave
think its the same to starter and legendary pokemons yes
all the rest not normaly
so far i understood/remember
proud crane
but you lose that STAB Brave Bird on Ho-oh
unique hawk
Ohhh noooooooo Chippy! :)
hybrid cave
not brave bird is the only relyable move though
but yea
fire itself limits alot of move set
its not it will have alot of choices except fire
unique hawk
Buddy at work with me is playing this too and hes just like "dude, just make BETTER guys with legends!" 😆
hybrid cave
not that u got plenty of legends to beat steelix blissey though
i mean, how many legend pokemons we got with fire
2?
or fighting, ground
well not u got low def/hp to deal with that
unique hawk
My Shedinja murders that blissey/steelix, but I kinda feel like if Shedinja is the answer, that's a damn tough pokemon. :)
unique hawk
Yeah that's true.
hybrid cave
and its not realy that broken though
u gotta be thinking also
shedinja only has 1 hp
one correct move and he ded
all moves that has 2x are effective
unique hawk
My shedinja's Dunsparce/Shedinja, so.. weak to dark only, and uses Endeavor, so typing is completely irrelevant to me. :)
unique hawk
Yup.
unique hawk
Weak to... just fire/ground?
unique hawk
Maybe ground negated by levitate?
hybrid cave
well its steel for sure
hybrid cave
yea
think i done that
note sure though need to check when i am at my grandpas pc
xD
unique hawk
Yeah, that's tough to beat.
unique hawk
Can't think of a great moveset for that thing though..
hidden bison
Swords Dance
Mach Punch
Bullet Punch
Shadow Punch
Shadow Claw
plenty of good moves for that thing
hybrid cave
xD
hidden bison
its a monster
unique hawk
I'd probably do like... mach punch, bug special boost thingy, baton pass, shadow punch?
hidden bison
actually i dont think it gets Shadow punch
unique hawk
Gets ball for sure.
hidden bison
should get Claw too
hybrid cave
also a posibility
2x mostly special, highest def form is special
hp is far
and high sp att
hybrid cave
aint that dependable wich fusion u take?
hidden bison
what?
hybrid cave
wait
hidden bison
the move ?
unique hawk
Yeah, it can be used by shedinja so good for sure..
unique hawk
My Shedinja currently uses Endeavor, Shadow Sneak, X-scissor and Thunder Wave for catching, toxic for murder.
Ghosts are a bit of trouble to kill, but anything else is harmless.
hybrid cave
ghost are easy to kill though
just focus on special moves mainly
aka pokemons based on special
its not they got high hp
they just got high speed mostly
unique hawk
Yup.
hybrid cave
due normal type
hidden bison
Toxic, Sandstorm, Wrap, Softboiled
hidden bison
whut
hybrid cave
xD
hidden bison
why Harden
hybrid cave
thats fair but lets face it
hidden bison
and keeps the mon from switching
hybrid cave
if u go to elite four
hidden bison
so Toxic can do its thing
hybrid cave
they mostly gonna use things like full restore
and toxic itself does not have much pp
nor does ur heal
also
toxic dmg increases per turn
theres actualy no need for wrap for dmg
hidden bison
the toxic effect gets removed the moment a mon switches out
it becomes regular poison
hybrid cave
wich mostly is done when their pokemon is either almost ded or 50% hp gone
switching afterwards back when no more potions left
does not realy buy them much time
more like a 1 turn time win
unique hawk
Just realized I need a toxic spiker for that shedinja, lol...
hybrid cave
lol
hybrid cave
nr1 fusion u not wanna mess with
fathom venture
oh god
robust crater
silver glade
Is there anywhere to find all fusion packs at once?
hybrid cave
i meant bout internet
ofline games dont count
e.e
shedinja ditto
should that not kind of be broken?
cant have a weakness if u become one of them
:x
frail solstice
even though you'll have one hp
hybrid cave
thing is
u only get hit
if a x2 move hits u
aka the right elements
but i wonder this due 'transform'
it normaly takes over the elements as well
'if i remember correctly that is'
frail solstice
you're saying like pokemon don't carry moves that they are weak to
hybrid cave
if it takes over element
it means u got a batle against same element
only pfew exsamples like dragons can counter it
due dragon is weak to dragon
unique hawk
I considered that, but then I thought about how many of my guys have something they're weak to.
It wasn't a lot, but it was far more than the number of guys that have a given single element, sometimes even two elements.
paper nova
orchid stone
unreal merlin
ok so im downloading the sprite packs, where do i put the sprites, is it battlers or custom battlers?
unreal merlin
fair
hidden bison
Since you dont have to place them in subfolders
Make sure you put the sprites in there not the whole folders
loud parrot
I could not find anything to fuse this miltank with
hybrid cave
u can breath and drink at same time with this pokemon 🤔
loud parrot
it's milk is rich with oxygen
very rich
so rich it puts Scrooge McDuck and Tom Nook combined to shame
tepid sable
hybrid cave
wanna bet?
send in chuck norris with his mighty weapon
nokia 3310
besides did u know that chuck norris is very old now?
unique hawk
lol Megatank...
paper linden
nom took
unique hawk
Tom Nook is Satan.
loud parrot
Mega Milk
upbeat rampart
Thanos
simple osprey
he is about to finish us all
loud parrot
mom said it's my turn on the xbox
robust crater
cursed
unique hawk
Oooh, know what would look sweet? Sigilyph/Lugia. :)
stiff sorrel
Anything sigilyph
unique hawk
Yap.
Sigilyph/Hawlucha?!? :)
Discount Hawlucha has been in many of my playthroughs. :)
hybrid cave
stats on lvl 10
hybrid cave
can we check somewhere the ev?
pallid ore
Nope, but iv in saffron east of the pkmn center
hybrid cave
but its ev i need to check xD
pallid ore
Just calculate it
hybrid cave
not i can keep track of how many times i done it lol
stanley
is it good or bad idea
to give blislix dragonbreath combined with life orb?
pallid ore
Defensive items are probably better on it. Idk
hybrid cave
single hit on a geodude
unique hawk
I would say that's probably a terrible idea, but I've never used a 'mon like that one.
solemn pier
name for gardevoir and ariados mix??
hybrid cave
arivoir?
solemn pier
nickname
hybrid cave
infidel?
solemn pier
why
hybrid cave
u can make dumb names and stay in the line u know
like
poison tea
named it poisoned tea
stiff sorrel
@hybrid cave we both has blissey fusions then
hybrid cave
wich ones u got fused?
stiff sorrel
nova sparrow
bapey
hybrid cave
trying to reach def 400
hybrid cave
normal steel i got
stiff sorrel
or normal/steel?
hybrid cave
normal steel
stiff sorrel
oh, so steelix goes standardized steel
stiff sorrel
A fighting type will still murder it
hybrid cave
not realy
not with the hp + def ratio
u can get 400 def with this pokemon
and even perhaps 450 xD
but yea
a big counter non the less
but hey, all pokemons have counters tbh
this one just only have very pfew
hybrid cave
looks nice yes
worn bison
its proud of its new wings
hybrid cave
wake up slap deals less dmg then i can heal
7 lvls difference
1 crit gained from vital trow wew
228 dmg
hybrid cave
pls do xD
haughty jay
ahahah i have to do
hybrid cave
oh btw
its also recoil dmg included of life orb
so its not only by earthquake
:x
aka it dealth less then 100 dmg
life orb takes 25hp away from me atm
101-25=76
@haughty jay
haughty jay
oh i will XD
hybrid cave
xD
haughty jay
ahahahaha
haughty jay
a wall
haughty jay
oh right
hybrid cave
its kinda funny if u do that move to change def with offens
haughty jay
ohh and a fusion with shedinja?
hybrid cave
thats on the other pc
i also play this game on my grandpas pc
xD
there i went full steel
haughty jay
electric to just weak to ground
haughty jay
i also done a custom fusion but is too big 😦
haughty jay
i know
hybrid cave
XD
haughty jay
XD
hybrid cave
yea
haughty jay
you lucky bastard XD
hybrid cave
fire fly is like one of the better elements tbh
rock easly avoided
water electric is special
ice poison psychic ghost are special
dragon normal dark flying
so thats 50/50
haughty jay
yeah nice combo
haughty jay
offf with solid rock
haughty jay
ahh right! lightroad
haughty jay
ahah so cute
hybrid cave
trying to keep beating stone type for ev
wait
12 hp
only
(leftovers?)
following calculations i should need 19 more points in def for 400 😮
but it might effect if i quite attacking stone type though
xD
hybrid cave
if u go to the cave close to elite four
aslong u focus on stone types there
u should be safe
nova sparrow
k
hybrid cave
an ev check would been nice though
i kind of came to a point
where ground moves
are a laughing matter
XD
206 hp i had first, enemy did submission , both are lvl 45, 90hp i have left, 116 dmg it did to me and its x4 XD
o pokemon was donchoke
this fusion is legend
@haughty jay make skin look godly, cause thats what this pokemon basicaly is, the x2 x4 are basicaly a joke
did not tested fire dmg though
did not train in special def yet
eh
i got a bugged hyper potion
it does not drop
its infinite
xD
o
well it is bugged indeed
but i use appearently hyper potion somewhere else
🤔
hybrid cave
nearly there
remote wing
holy shit
hybrid cave
still increasing ev
now in special def though
want atleast (attempting to) get 400def and 300 sp def at lvl 100
unique hawk
This thing kicks major ass... Anger point on steel type OP. XD
robust crater
dang
unique hawk
Takes a crit for like 30hp, then goes up 6 attack. XD
Plus it can use Close Combat without a care in the world. XD
robust crater
this guy is the definition of a glass cannon
unique hawk
I love glass cannons. XD
robust crater
if he's faster than you, you're dead
if you're faster than him, he's dead
unique hawk
My team is usually quite fast in general. 😃
Awww, I can breed Porygons, but I can't get more dubious discs...
unique hawk
Just got my debug thingy, so I can probably do it that way too.
Holy mother of god, this thing is a thousand times better now that it gets to Poryzon-Z 😄
robust crater
aight, I'll give it a shot
unique hawk
Hmm... Arcanine/Porygon-Z would have stab Extremespeed+Adapability... could make a really powerful Mashtomp/Marowak without changing typings... and Blissey/Wobbuffet sounds absolutely horrifying. XD
Also kind of wondering if there's any niche for a Fairy/Dark pokemon. 😃
fathom venture
I really want to find a keckleon in game
its a cool looking pokemon that deserves a cool fusion
robust crater
about as slow as can be lol
unique hawk
I love Kecleon normally, but Protean isn't in this game.
distant dagger
It would be sick fusion material if it had protean
unique hawk
It's kinda like Blaziken, love the design, but without Speed Boost...? Eeeeh...
Well, I think this weekend I'll be starting a randomized run, but for now, goodnight all. 😄
distant dagger
Gn
dusky quiver
Is there a way too look at a Pokemon's IV/EVs? And does anyone know if the Clefairy Moon Stone Square event is repeatable or another way to get more moon stones?
hidden bison
There is a IV checker in Saffron
Idk about the clefairy event
Never bothered going back there
As for checking EVs
I guess unlock Debug mode
unique hawk
Question about that Kecleon, in fusion, does it change its whole typing like Transform would, or just the normal portion?
pallid ore
Good question, I would assume it changes the whole type. That's how it was probably coded in the base games or essentials because it only has 1 type normally..but hmm who knows
unique hawk
I would assume that too, but not entirely sure how that ability is coded. :)
It would also be much better if it only changed part. :)
crude folio
i saw this and i fell in love in less then 0.1 sec
primal olive
So what stats carry over when fusing?
im looking at a potential Xatu/Fortress fusion where it would be an absolute tank
crude folio
look in the FAQ it says it in there
its like att, def, speed for head
or something
primal olive
thanks, ill check it out.
crude folio
there is also a book in the mount. moon pokemon center that says it
unique hawk
Agreed that it's in the FAQ, but when fusing Forretress, you get more bulk from it being the body, but much, much less speed. I think it's also steel from body and bug from head.
I didn't much care for fire/electric typing but gotta say... love how that looks. :)
crude folio
i wanted to fuse my 2 favorite pokemon together jolteon and ninetails but i cant evolve vulpix yet so for now i have this lovely creature
unique hawk
I have a really hard time picking favorites because some are favorites of mine for function, and some for form. Like, Smeargle is one I cite often... but it's weak as crap. :)
crude folio
jolteon is my favorite for a few reasons i like the playstyle of hit hard hit fast i love how it looks and its also the first pokemon i realy wanted to train to lvl 100
unique hawk
Gen 1 it was Dragonair, for sure. (Yes, the second stage of 3.)
I guess that one is both function and design. :)
And totally agree on the fast hard hitting thing, Jolteon, Alakazam, Arcanine, and Aerodactyl are all key guys to me.
Dead pokemon dont fight back. :)
robust crater
what should I fuse with heracross?
hybrid cave
scizor?
robust crater
which way around, scizor/heracross or heracross/scizor?
unique hawk
I actually fused my Heracross to Skarmory head on a whim, went pretty well, so I imagine Scizor would be great.
crude folio
What is that graph?
unique hawk
Yeah, I generally dont run a lot of bulk so sometimes I make offensive guys a bit more defensive with fusions.
robust crater
ain't this the cutest thing
unique hawk
Like yesterday I shared my Primeape/Bastodion, it's like... a tank made for offense. :)
Mastodon, did you see my opposite of the cutest thing? 😂
crude folio
that is a face anyone would fall in love with
robust crater
what do you mean?
like add it to the game?
hybrid cave
yea
robust crater
go into the game files, into the graphics folder, and into the custombattlers folder
then you just paste the sprite in the folder and you're good to go
hybrid cave
(where are the gamefiles 🤔 )
dont have a file though
i mean
of that image
i just sended a link
xD
robust crater
well just download it and paste it in
hybrid cave
no specific way of dowloading required?
hybrid cave
just like that?
robust crater
yep
crude folio
you do need to change the name of the pic
hybrid cave
REEEEE
robust crater
no he doesn't it's already correct
crude folio
oh i see my bad
unique hawk
Yeah, next day off I get I have to like find and install as many of those as possible, missing a ton.
robust crater
sure does
unique hawk
I like that sprite. :)
crude folio
that hp with those defences is insane
unique hawk
(My phone capitalizes Sprite because I order the drink with it.)
robust crater
also here are all of the sprite packs so you can get all of the currently sprited mons into your game:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uFuua1zrxfMVi_MHoWe9JXAgM0DpXqc-
unique hawk
Yeah that's going to be even more tanky than my silly Primeodon. :)
That thing is surprisingly good, lol... way better tanks out there but it can fight well too.
unique hawk
I might debug myself one of those and drop my starter stalltank. :)
crude folio
omg
hybrid cave
blislix is a god
unique hawk
Yeah, I mean like... even my Shedinja could be answered by it if you give it sandstorm.
hybrid cave
xD
unique hawk
And that thing pretty much shut off the whole game.
I had to box it to continue to have fun. 😂
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dain
the only true weakness
is fire and fighting
well fighting due more chances to crit with moves
outside of crits
its kinda fair
u just need to do against those pokemons
toxic and protecrt
protect
unique hawk
Think I'm going to use that thing as a benchmark to test new guys against. :
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dain
guess how much dmg
blislix gains from gound type moves
aka earthquake
on equal lvl
unique hawk
Probably very little, maybe 40?
hybrid cave
75
hybrid cave
if not mistaken it was sandslash with machoke
machoke head
well i did posted it
think i did not posted it
when it came to equal lvl
here u see the dmg donphan did to me
however
25 dmg recoil from life orb
bout yea
ground moves are a laughing matter
protect blislix aint actualy a bad idea
due leftovers
u let toxic do most of the work eitherway
its weak to fire but
u can survive 2 hits
XD
@unique hawk if u use moves like roar in battle, and ur first turn, can enemy even attack u then?
if not, make a speedy pokemon that can learn toxic spikes and stealth rock and keep roaring XD
though u only need speed pokemon for roar only in this case
odd ledge
Roar has negative priority. It will always go last
odd ledge
no. Any phasing move has negative prio
odd ledge
That is cancer my dude
unique hawk
Yeah, probably the best toxic staller I've seen...
hybrid cave
lol
unique hawk
Doesn't really have any answer to a steel guy but... so what? 😂
crude folio
why doe you want to make the world suffer?
hybrid cave
cause i can?
unique hawk
lol, yeah, I dont really think I've ever made a PURE tank like that...
hybrid cave
dain
wanna hear something funny?
guess the amount of dmg i do to myself under confusion
crude folio
like 15?
unique hawk
Primeodon, Vilesaur, Gyaraizard, these are "tanks" in my games. :)
crude folio
your leftovers will likely heal like 2.5 times as much
hybrid cave
xD
wonders how much dmg ill get from struggle though
other pokemon i still gotta train
special def
water electric x2
special def the highest
imuun to ground 👍
crude folio
there are 2 types of people in a game like this those that make monsters like you and those that fuse them cause i don't realy care
crude folio
where?
hybrid cave
oaks parcel, the building left where u can do some fights and gain points
(says oaks parcel for a direction)
crude folio
the trainer house?
pallid ore
yo dainbread, I was thinking about doing something with Smeargle for a wacky/unique strategies team and I think there is some potential with the signature move of || zapmolticuno || and serene grace. So either blissey for the defensive or togekiss for an 'offensive' version..but really its purpose would be being a status bot
Not sure about the rest of the moveset. Maybe quiver dance ..and idk
(Edit: I guess I'll ping you here, cause I have the feeling it's gonna be buried under posts soon @unique hawk )
hybrid cave
light screen i guess
pallid ore
You said you like Smeargle and I've literally never used it, so maybe you have some ideas
hybrid cave
normal pshycic
pallid ore
That just bugs out enemies. Aka cheating lol
pallid ore
Did you not read my post lol
hybrid cave
what u mean that bugs out enemies
pallid ore
I didn't mean that. But I want to use the signature move from the boss bird on Smeargle because he can copy it with sketch
hybrid cave
o lol
pallid ore
But regarding Lightscreen, last time I used it it bugged out enemy ai so they don't attack
hybrid cave
then how bout ditto
transform into him
having that trio form
ditto blissey transform trio
XD
pallid ore
But it's not permanent
hybrid cave
sketch is permanent?
pallid ore
Yeah that's the whole point of the move lol
hybrid cave
oof
so u can do what with sketch then
learn move u normaly cant
then go move reminder for another sketch?
unique hawk
Yeah @pallid ore : In Omega Sapphire, I had what I called the "Smeargle Gym"... one had Focus Sash, Endeavour, Extremespeed, Will-o-Wisp and Recover. Another had a Rocky Helmet, Toxic Spikes, Agility and Baton Pass, and the third was a shiny that just had the super moves of as many legendaries as I could get. :)
pallid ore
I actually wanted to make a suggestion for a full Smeargle fusion trainer, but someone had to come up with movesets and fusions so I gave up on it. Ain't nobody got time for that
unique hawk
Well... theres 2 and a half if you want them. Last one was mostly just showboating, but the first 2 were solid. :)
hybrid cave
bought some pp ups den
unique hawk
Most people could beat it on their second try, but usually got a team or a few pokes on the first. :)
hybrid cave
i broke pokedex?
crude folio
how?
hybrid cave
idk
crude folio
lol
robust crater
that happens when you look at the dex
but don't pay attention to it, the save screen will always tell you anyways
hybrid cave
lol
unique hawk
I'll load up my old smeargle boxes when I'm at home.
pallid ore
You got any other suggestions for a blissey/togekiss Smeargle fusion? I don't wanna give it boost moves actually, cause it kind of defeats the purpose of the obnoxious Tri attack spam that it's supposed to do lol
unique hawk
Could just give it Recycle and a berry for PP? 😂
Soak maybe for those pesky steel/rock/ghosts?
pallid ore
That Tri attack from the bird actually hits steel x2 or x1 and ghost x1 as well
unique hawk
lol, nice. :) Didnt realize the move itself was different, figured it was probably just a boss trait.
hybrid cave
this is worth crying for kind of
leftovers and u only lose 6hp/turn
k that filthy bich used perish song
hybrid cave
yea
what a idiot
turn 1
i send out hogia
bich used healing potion
at turn 1 left of perish song
healing or no healing, it will die lol
many exp
wow
hogia lvl 14
10 dmg uppon confusion
m crying
crude folio
i just fused my gastly and snorlax and now i have a pokemon with 4 imunities
normal/ghost/fighting and levitate for ground
now i just need some move
hybrid cave
not ground is ur biggest wory but giving def stat its a nice extra
crude folio
i have 2 pokemon on my team with a ground weakness one of with is a x4 so it's nice to have
unique hawk
I found Gengar/Snorlax pretty decent, and normal/ghost is my favorite type. :)
Curse/Rest combo is just plain silly. :)
@pallid ore : Also seems like Hex and/or Shadow Sneak's flinch would be really good with that tri-artack. :)
Oooh, just realized Slaking is in this game now, that would make a fun Gengar combo! :)
crude folio
slaking without truant
unique hawk
Yup.
unique hawk
It's far into post game.
crude folio
sad life
hidden bison
Forever you dont have the custom sprites i made for the E4 eh
unique hawk
I mean, for good reason... Slaking/Weedle would still be OP as hell without truant. :)
robust crater
or you can randomize until you find one and then unrandomize when you get it
unique hawk
That is certainly an option, but I dont think it's one I would use. :)
crude folio
yea it's not for me
unique hawk
Hmmm... why does Vileplume/Venusaur make pure grass type... but Gengar/Shedinja make Bug/Ghost?
The second one seems right with the rules in the FAQ, but makes the first one wrong...
hidden bison
Venusaur gives pure grass
unique hawk
Yes but... so does Gengar. (Ghost.)
hidden bison
Read the Faq closely
odd ledge
yes shedinja gives bug in this case because of the redundancy feature
unique hawk
But why does Vileplume not give poison then... only checks head redundancy?
hidden bison
If the body gives the same type as the head it provides its other type instead
This does not apply to the head however
unique hawk
That seems kinda wonky.
hidden bison
So it does not give its other type if it gives the same as the body
unique hawk
Later!
proud crane
I've mentioned in suggestions somewhere about only checking body redundancy
Maybe in a future update
unique hawk
I mean... it's debatably better this way... but weird and confusing.
pallid ore
I've always thought it was like that, because head defines color aswell. So the color makes more sense type wise. Atleast that's the reason for scizor type change for example
unique hawk
Ahhh, yeah, a thematic answer would justify it...
unique hawk
Oh yeah, Stanley: My friend just reminded me (with a great deal of malice in his voice...) that I also had a smeargle with Toxic, Protect, Detect, and something else. :)
Physical I'd think yes... special, not so sure...
odd ledge
What are Xatu and Forretresses Sp.Def stats?
loud parrot
not gud
unique hawk
Xatu is reasonable, but Forrestrss is loooooooow.
odd ledge
Yeah then def not. since a third of that will be based on forretress
unique hawk
Yeah, if Xatu was really high, then sure, but it's just kinda like... B+
loud parrot
unique hawk
Hmm, that's actually not quite as low as I thought.
proud crane
I might recommend Tentacruel/Forretress for mixed tankiness and tough Water/Steel typing
unique hawk
Am I the only one who doesn't like Tentacruel? :)
robust crater
nah I agree
unique hawk
I just think its moves are kinda meh.
odd ledge
You've just made an enemy for life 😡
robust crater
lol
unique hawk
Lol.. :) I mean, I'm not saying DON'T like it, I just kinda don't care for it.
odd ledge
I am fiina boutta throw fists 👊
primal olive
Thanks for the advice, i ask because currently i got a Natu and im either pairing it with Butterfree currently for a special attacker or with Pinecco
proud crane
in the late game, Xatu/Butterfree with Stored Power and Quiver Dance could be good
unique hawk
I'm still trying to find a Stored Power/Ancient Power combo I like... :)
odd ledge
Xatu/Dunsparce
odd ledge
Or for a more useful one with the same purpose, Togekiss
pallid ore
^
unique hawk
Yeah, Togekiss answers a lot of questions doesn't it? :)
proud crane
Xatu and butterfree get Ominous Wind and Silver Wind respectively
pallid ore
Togekiss is actual s tier fusion material in this game
unique hawk
It's even not terrible as a body, just less amazing.
pallid ore
Yeah, I 'had' to use it as a body once in a nuzlocke and it was still amazing
loud parrot
the fairy typing makes it s-tier fusion fodder
but I bet you it would be on par with sylveon
pallid ore
+serene grace is just broken
proud crane
that and its 85/120/115 head stats
unique hawk
Definitely true for me to say that weird typings and ability/move combos is my favorite thing about this game.
pallid ore
The stupidest combo is entei tbh. 100% burn chance and crazy damage in one move
unique hawk
(And yes, Serene Grace is silly, especially on something that gets Sky Blast)
Like it's not my best 'mon, but that Primeape/Bastodion is SO much fun. :)
I think my best guy right now is probably the Porygon/Gengar, or the Shedinja of Ultimate Cheese.
Though my last game's Alakazam/Porygon is waaaaay better now that Porygon-Z is in game.
primal olive
unique hawk
Okay guys... I hope you're ready for this hard hitting question I'm about to ask...
...does Lickilicy/Steelix become Lickilix?
unique hawk
Beautiful. :)
primal olive
What does Lickitang look like?
unique hawk
Kinda want to make a Lickilix now... because reasons.
proud crane
have it just be a head located where the tip of steelix's tail would be, then have the whole body just be its tongue
robust crater
lol
what should I fuse here?
I'm not really looking for the best performing fusions, I'm looking for the coolest looking ones
proud crane
Armaldo makes a pretty good looking body
robust crater
alrighty
what should I fuse Armaldo with there
hidden bison
hmm well cant rly say most of the generated sprites will look too great
robust crater
ye
I'm looking to make some mons that could be cool with a custom sprite
I bought 50 super splicers and unfused a whole ton of mons
now I'm just looking for ones that could turn out cool with a sprite
hidden bison
well most of them dont have sprites
robust crater
yep, exactly
that's what I'm going for
I'll just suggest them over time in spritework
robust crater
yea I fused my arcanine that I had with my ubreon, it's been sprited before and it looks pretty good
I might do the arbok/armaldo once I get another armaldo
primal olive
How does breeding fusions work
odd ledge
it doesnt
nova sparrow
punnett square kinda
you have say 1/2 and 3/4
you can get 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 4/1, or any of the bases, and the mixs menioned go either way
primal olive
Yeah i thought it would go like that, idk if it does happen, i heard that fusions can breed now so im asking
junior lily
Sometimes when you breed a mon(I only bred mons with Ditto), you get the wrong offspring. This sucks when you try to breed a legendary since you can't just Reverse Splice it and try again.
This is mostly a problem with WT legendaries.
unique hawk
Legends dont breed in my experience... specifically which ones?
junior lily
you can breed legends, if they are the face
Raikou/Mamoswine gave me a Lugia/Drowzee.
that's the one I remember
robust crater
in the morning, your yard enters the
ocean dock
No
robust crater
yes
odd ledge
Possibly
unique hawk
I don't know, could you repeat the question?
loud parrot
opinion, I perfer to fuse 2 singular types together since it's easier to get the typing I want, which is why I would die if sylveon was added so that I'm not stuck with using togekiss whenever I want a fairy
robust crater
or wobbuffet