#fusions

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robust crater
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as far as I know there aren't any sprites for any of the mons before the final evolution, but the final one is awesome

languid creek
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How exactly do u make sprites?

robust crater
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well if you go to the spritework channel and look at the pins, you'll see a short guide and a sprite list

languid creek
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Ok but what thing do I make the sprite on some sort of art website or something?

robust crater
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most people use piskel

languid creek
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Piskel?

robust crater
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yea

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it's a spriting program

languid creek
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I should try it out later

robust crater
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I've never tried it, but it seems pretty good

languid creek
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Btw any suggestions on fusions I should try out and use

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For meh team

robust crater
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spearow/pidgey
nidoran/ratata

lethal dove
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What moves should I have if I have a Togekiss/Tentacruel fusion? And ability? Clear Body or Serene Grace for a Fairy/Poison? I know I probably wanna use Sludge Bomb/Sludge Wave, and maybe Air Slash...

unique hawk
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I'd say Serene Grace for sure, that would get access to Poison Jab/Sludgewave for poisoning from Tentacruel and Air Slash from the fairy side.

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Could argue that toxic is better than those Tentacruel moves, but the flinching is hard to pass up.

lethal dove
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I wouldn't want to use Poison Jab. If I do Serene Grace, then I want Sludge Bomb. I could also maybe do Water Pulse or Sweet Kiss or a similar move if I wanted to try confusion.
I was thinking Clear Body would be good to use with Stored Power, Ancient Power, Nasty Plot, and maybe Barrier or a poison move

unique hawk
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I mean... it's not what I would do, but yeah, that's a pretty solid argument. 😃 I just listed a few things that came to mind.

lethal dove
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I wasn't sure if the Clear Body option was... The best one though. It wouldn't be bad to do a sweeping set with Stored Power. Just have to set up a Nasty Plot and I should be good to go, right? The issue is taking the time to BREEED the togepi with Stored Power but... Clefairy with my current Toge should make that easy.
But Serene Grace with Sludge Bomb and Air Slash is good, but again, is it the best way to go? And if I do this ability do I want a fairy move with confusion or I can try to find a recovery move...?

unique hawk
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Hmmm...

lethal dove
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I could try to go for coverage too. Aura Sphere for the Steel types, or a Water move for the Ground types.

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Actually Aura Sphere is probably really good if my two main attacks are Sludge Bomb and Air Slash

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And I already said Water Pulse for water but uh, low base power and 40% confusion... There's probably better.

unique hawk
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Yeah, that's kinda what I was thinking, if I was going to use a water move, I'd use Scald. (Assuming it's even in this game.)

lethal dove
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Scald for the 60% burn? Perfect

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I'll take the least time comsuming way and do Serene Grace then.

unique hawk
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Might just be an opinion matter, honestly, I think your plan would be pretty strong too, I just tend to play pretty offensive-oriented. 😃

lethal dove
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It wouldn't have been bad, surely. Giga Drain/Wish/Soft Boiled/Morning Sun would be nice recovery to use for the set, I think. Stocking up on Nasty Plots and with that Stored Power, just... Boom. Sweep.

unique hawk
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Does it get Giga Drain?

lethal dove
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I need to find out HOW, bur according to Pokemon Showdown gen 5 Ubers set up, Tentacruel does.

unique hawk
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Weird.

lethal dove
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You need a tutor for it to learn Giga Drain

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So if I wanted to run it, I'd have to find out who would teach me it in this game

unique hawk
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I'm not much help there, but I believe there's a list of those in the docs link in the FAQ?

lethal dove
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If I can't find it, then I can get Wish by a prior evo.
It does say in showdown it gets Softboiled, but... I'm not seeing it on the Bulbapedia gen 5 move list anywhere and it bothers me GREATLY. And why can't it get Roost???

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Alrighty so it says nothing on Giga Drain. I can say (FOR SURE) I can put Wish, but... That's two turn recovery. sad music
I could try Drain Punch but... No lol

unique hawk
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Wouldn't work great on that mon.

lethal dove
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So the next best option is a poison move instead, or make it hold leftovers with sub or protect, but I wouldn't. Leftovers is better on the Serene Grace build I think.

unique hawk
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Yeah, that's how I'd run it.

lethal dove
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So why run Nasty Plot on that

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When I can run Acupressure?

unique hawk
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I just prefer Nasty Plot, honestly. 😃

lethal dove
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It's rest assured you get a BUNCHA damage with Stored Power but you could also just be a jerk and Acupressure if SOFT-BOILED WAS LEGAL

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Because then you could take as much stat boosts as you want

unique hawk
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I COULD see someone saying I'm just straight up wrong here, but... I'll stick with the Nasty Plot. 😃

lethal dove
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Which is fair

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Me: tries to switch teams around so I don't have too many pokemon of the same type

Going to have:
Garchomp/Azumarill(Dragon/Fairy)
Togekiss/Tentacruel(Fairy/Poison)
Sceptile/Omastar(Water/Grass)
Gardevoir/Butterfree(Psychic/Flying)
Blissey/Jumpluff(Normal/Flying)
Granbull/Gyarados(Water/Fairy)

I need to get rid of a Fairy to not have 3 fairy types, but I don't wanna get rid of any these guys at the same time.

unique hawk
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Yeah, my team's got a pretty severe weakness to thunder right now...

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Actually, now looking at it, it's not SO bad...

lethal dove
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According to this calculator, these are my current team weaknesses/resistances
If you think you have a Electric problem, maybe get a ground type or a pokemon with Lightning Rod or Volt Absorb?

unique hawk
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I have a flying/ground.

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I rotate guys a lot, so I have like, 9 guys I'm using.

loud parrot
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I had to focus on what my team needed atm, and I figured that pokemon can be expended since this is the most replayable fangame out there

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you're probably gonna have a lot more infinite fusion playthroughs, so you'll probably use those pokemon you drop anyways

unique hawk
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Exactly, I see each run as its own thing, I try not to do the same stuff.

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I usually end up with a Ghost/Normal and a Alaka-something.

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But, I change it up each run.

loud parrot
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I usually follow either a water/fire/grass core, or a fighting/steel/fairy core when I play through games

lethal dove
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I follow a uh, 'I think this one sounds cool' 'This one just looks good and somehow ended up being good'

unique hawk
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Ah, yeah, Water/Fire's pretty common for me too. First game I used the Psymander you get in a trade, another it was a Blastoise/Ponyta, this run it's Gyarizard.

loud parrot
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with the way I team built, this was how my weaknesses played out

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and eliminate the ground weakness because my magnezone/weezing fusion had levitate

unique hawk
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So, my highest guys are currently: LV47 Vilesaur (Grass), LV46 Porygar (Ghost/Normal), LV45 Chanking (Normal/Water), LV44 Magnefairy (Steel/Fairy), LV44 Gyarizard (Fire/Water), LV44 Alagong (Psychic/Water), LV42 Fearphy (Flying/Ground), LV40 Parawack (Bug/Ground), and LV38 Wobblax (Psychic/Normal)

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Whoooole lotta problems with thunder in there, but I have guys that can deal with it.

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(I'm also still pre-e4, so, there's that.)

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Oh, and I guess I could technically count Moltres and Zapdos as my highest guys, but they're just kinda chilling right now while I decide what to do with them.

loud parrot
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repeat typings are triggering to me sometimes

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unless monotypes

unique hawk
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You mean like... can't tolerate 2 fire guys, or can't tolerate 2 normal guys, or can't tolerate 2 normal/whatever guys? 😃

loud parrot
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basically

unique hawk
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...the Chanking needs replacing, I just haven't had any luck in the safari zone.

loud parrot
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to me it's like "you could fit so many other things in those slots, why waste them on typings you already have?!"

unique hawk
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Eh, I mean... there's only 12 possible types in a team, and some are good for many things. Like, Water/Fire is great against fire, but Water/Grass... much more effective against rock/ground. 😃

loud parrot
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idk, it's like the strategic side of me that does this

unique hawk
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Well... I typically have a basic setup of... 1 guy for many things (the Magnfairy.), 1 guy to stall (Vilesaur or Chanking), 4 DD's.

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That's why I don't stick to just 6 guys, I sort of swap guys out for a bit when something comes up they can't deal with.

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Like my pure grass starter was pretty ineffective on Koga. Thankfully, the Porygar laughed as he soloed through it. 😃

lethal dove
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I WANT TO THINK THE SAME WAY ABOUT HAVING ONLY ONE OF THE SAME TYPE
But I don't wanna replace what I have, but I don't want to have repeated typings--

loud parrot
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I have those moments at times too, but with this game it's like "Bad, you can just replay the game in a randomizer, everything will be different, and theres the chance that you could use that other pokemon that you wanted to use, but in that next playthrough"

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the biggest offender with this was every dragonite or aerodactyl fusion that I had in mind

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it just somehow gets me through those moments

lethal dove
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I don't think that way because I rarely do repeated playthroughs of games. I play one time, maybe watch someone else play, then I stop. If I do try to replay, I tend to get in like 10% game progress before I go 'meh'

loud parrot
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and that's what the randomizer is for :D

worn bison
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hey that site on team types is cool

hidden bison
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look at that dude, she (?) is jiggly

remote wing
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jigglydude

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what are girls if not jiggly dudes?

late ruin
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Quick question. Is there a folder with custom sprites like a collection so you dont need to download them one by one?

thin imp
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there are sprite packs

late ruin
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thx

hard yoke
hybrid cave
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proly gonna make this steel fusion so i got atleast one pokemon to deal with fire XD

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for the steel set that is

fickle turtle
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Look at this derp

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How are all paras head fusions derpy lol

hidden bison
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sprite packs

unique hawk
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Nothing in the FAQ about hidden abilities on fusions, is it possible?

pallid ore
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nope

idle zealot
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what the fuck is a azumans

hidden bison
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azumarill/ekans

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is my guess

outer ice
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So ive created my own fusion but in the game, it appears with a white box around it, how do i get rid of this??

sleek elm
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@outer ice send the sprite and I'll fix it for you

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Because if you used paint I dont think it's easy to remove the white background

worn bison
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u can't with ms paint

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use other softwares like paint.net or piskel or whatever

worldly viper
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I use ms paint, then paste it to sai to remove the white

hidden bison
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ye the background cannot be removed with paint

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as mentioned above

rigid jungle
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You can if you put it in Paint 3D and manually erase the white area

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With transparent canvas, you can see what parts are erased

outer ice
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Thanks guys

chrome terrace
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put it in paint 3d
uhh dont do that

rigid jungle
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If you know how to use it, it does the job well

hidden bison
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eh on other programs you just use the selection tool

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select the background

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and press delete

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thats it

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takes 5 seconds

junior lily
rigid jungle
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Intimidate

hidden bison
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ye guts is nice but only if you have a flame orb or something

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Intimidate is nice overall

junior lily
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Isn't Flame/Toxic Orb in the game?

hidden bison
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well they are in the game

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but you cant rly get them early on (unless they are avaliable at the Trainer house as a prize)

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i rarely ever check out the prizes there

junior lily
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Just checked. They're not in the trainer house

hidden bison
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i see

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i cant even remember where you get them

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i know where the life orb is

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thats about it

junior lily
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A Toxic Orb would've been great since Poison-types don't lose HP from being poisoned afaik

hidden bison
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not it would not be great

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for that mon

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cuz it cant get poisoned

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at all

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so guts wont activate

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flame orb is your only option im afraid

junior lily
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are they at least in the game?

hidden bison
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yes

idle zealot
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how many traniers are for the nugget

hidden bison
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all the items up to gen 5 are in the game

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  • some custom items
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which nugget ?

worn bison
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chiken nunget

unique hawk
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Nugget on a biscuit?

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Also, I think with MSPaint you can select all, then select "transparent selection" to remove white background, but you might need to copy/paste to do this

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I made an overlay doing that once.

worn bison
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MS paint doesn't support transparency, when u save it automatocally gives a white background

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idk why people stay on ms paint x)

unique hawk
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Non-artists use it, anyone else should get the hell away from it immediately. XD

hidden bison
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eh i use it cuz im used to it

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and i just use Piskel to remove the background and stuff like that

cerulean vine
unique hawk
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I made a Meowth/Marowak fusion for a quick high-leveled Pay Day... but stab Thrash... OOF.

rigid jungle
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yer a Weezard, Harry

unique hawk
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It is comedy gold. 😃

cerulean vine
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BEHOLD THE WEEZARD

unique hawk
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Looks awesome too, lol.

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There's a few fusions that kick major ass, but look stupid as hell. XD

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I like how ANY starter fusion is pretty good.

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Like, Zubat/Squirtle? Totally fine. Beedrill/Bulbasaur? Pretty decent. Charmander/Mr.Mime? Looks silly, but pretty frickin' sweet. 😃

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My friend playing with me lately was saying like "I ruined my Bulbasaur by putting it with a Beedrill because I thought I'd get grass/poison still", but like... that's probably still good. XD

junior lily
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Wouldn't a Bulbasaur(face)/Beedrill be Grass/Poison? I'm guessing your friend has a Beedrill/Bulbasaur, which is Bug/Grass. DNA Reversers are available later in the game. They can reverse the order of the fusion without needing to unfuse and refuse the mon.

nova sparrow
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beebasaur isnt terrible thou

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just mediocre

unique hawk
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Yeah, he might be giving me the orders wrong.

lethal dove
hidden bison
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satan

unique hawk
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Niiiiiice.

lethal dove
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It has no attacking moves help

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Charm, Sing, Tail Whip, Defense Curl

unique hawk
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So uhh... waste those and STRUGGLE! Struggle your way to FREEDOM! Like all 10-year-olds in Pokemon do!

remote wing
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hahaha

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can it learn tms

lethal dove
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it's a new game

unique hawk
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It can probably learn all the TMs he doesn't have.

lethal dove
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and i am trying to do a nuzlocke

unique hawk
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Oof, nuzlocke with no attacks... yikes.

remote wing
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oof

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is it

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ur only pokemon

lethal dove
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it's my starter

remote wing
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h

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can u catch any pokemon

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atm

lethal dove
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I can get 7 pokeballs. And I can make something to sleep. So I can HOPEFULLY chuck some balls at something and pray for the best

remote wing
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bless

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good luck

lethal dove
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I am catching a Pidto. A pidgey/ditto. Hopefully.

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SUCCESS

nova sparrow
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save before catching anythin just to be sure

remote wing
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nice

crude pivot
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ummmmm ho-ho and onyx fused are onoh

unique hawk
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lol, nice.

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Ekans + Meowth = EKTH... anyone else think that sounds like a JonTron quote?

distant dagger
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ECH

lethal dove
nova sparrow
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horsea is a nice looking head

unique hawk
lethal dove
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What gender is a Nidoqueen/Nidoking

slate sapphire
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Queen, Female | King, Male I think it takes whatever the head is

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Another question is, Whats a good Abra fusion?

unique hawk
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Most things are a good abra fusion...

slate sapphire
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Well yeah but i also want it to look good

unique hawk
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Some of my faves have been Vileplume, Dewgong, Charmander, Porygon, and Magnemite.

slate sapphire
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Okay, Thank you

unique hawk
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Vilekazam is uuuuuugly, but really effective.

slate sapphire
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Intresting

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Interesting*

unique hawk
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The rest look okay. Just keep in mind you generally want the kazam to play the role of head, unless you're going for speed more than power.

slate sapphire
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Yeah makes sense, Thanks again

unique hawk
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No worries! That's one fusion partner that works many, many ways.

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Even some of the "bad" fusions I've done with it became pretty good, like I did Machamp once, and it was still decent. XD

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He just makes a super fragile body.

slate sapphire
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Well I mean, Is there something to make it evolve into a alakazam? Because you need trading for that i think

unique hawk
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Nope, most things that evolve by trade and some by item, just evolve at LV40.

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(Some 50, but mostly 40.)

slate sapphire
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Okay thank you

unique hawk
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If it didn't evolve by 41... it's 50. 😃

slate sapphire
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Hows this?

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One sec what type is unknown lemme check

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Eh not that good but i could always unfuse

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How does unfusing my Pikachu/Charmeleon, Fusing the Charmeleon and the Nidorino, and then fusing a Abra with the Pikachu sound? Would It work out in my favor?

lethal dove
slate sapphire
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lol

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Can anyone answer my question before i do it lmao

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okay

unique hawk
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Sounds good to me Cody!

deep magnet
rigid jungle
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nice

unique hawk
lethal dove
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One-eyed Joe

loud parrot
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it's covered in cotton

unique hawk
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Yeah, he's far from ideal in many ways, lol.

orchid stone
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and this ahs to be my fav

unique hawk
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I got a good laugh out of Pikatini. 😃

orchid stone
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he's so cute

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but

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he only has leer and splash

unique hawk
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Electrlem is actually not terrible... Buzz would have been better though.

orchid stone
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and ofc my starter

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he's actually pretty good

unique hawk
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lol Unknown just fuses "Un"?

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Unown/Tentacool. 😃

orchid stone
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that would be terrifying

loud parrot
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nah, that would just be uncool

unique hawk
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Yeah, seriously, uncool dude.

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😄

orchid stone
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That was uncool dude, shame

loud parrot
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why don't you be like Jessabelle

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extra thiccc with a tripple c right there bud

orchid stone
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OMG

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METAMELEON

unique hawk
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I never Metameleon I didn't like.

hard yoke
unique hawk
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People LIKE Ledian, right...?

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...why? 😛

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I don't get it.

orchid stone
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people LIKE sceptile, right...?
...why? 😛
I don't get it.

unique hawk
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Like, I just ran into a LV56 Ledian with my next highest living guy being 47, so I was scared...

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...and it just... did NOTHING.

orchid stone
unique hawk
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Wooo! 😄

orchid stone
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got it

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fire alarm is frickin useless

unique hawk
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NOT USELESS. 😄

orchid stone
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Fire alarm is literally useless

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i will keep it until level 10

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if it doesn;t evolve

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then bye bye

unique hawk
orchid stone
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that's rad

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oh look fire alarm killed a level 2 shielts

unique hawk
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lol 😄

orchid stone
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IN 7 ATTACKS

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VENOROGUE

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LMFAO

unique hawk
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OMG Dunsparce is in this game?! 😄

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Eeeeeeeexcellent.

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/evil plotting.

orchid stone
unique hawk
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It most likely becomes Hitmonchan...

orchid stone
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it's randomized

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might aswell become arceus and mewtwo

unique hawk
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Wait, the game randomizes evolutions too, not just spawns?

orchid stone
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items too

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from the menu

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i mean it would only be normal to randomize evolutions too

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if the head is a metapod

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and the body a charmeleon

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does it evolve at 10 or 36

unique hawk
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Both.

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And 7.

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And 16.

orchid stone
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nicee

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venonat evolves at 31

unique hawk
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Yeah, but its body would change at 20. (Is it 20?)

orchid stone
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and tyrogue at 20

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ima get it for brock i guess?

unique hawk
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I think I would.

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Might not be a long-term member, but I tend to try and get a bunch of guys early on as a base.

orchid stone
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stats are 78787

unique hawk
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Can't skip leg day, bro.

orchid stone
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wait no

unique hawk
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Yeah, but the Venomoth is going to gain a lot more defense than attack.

orchid stone
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yeah...

unique hawk
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So it probably goes LV20: Venorogue -> Venochan, then Venochan -> Different Venochan.

orchid stone
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also this is surprisingly strong

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my starter

unique hawk
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Yeah, I was saying earlier... pretty much any starter fusion is viable. Some better than others, obviously. Unown's about as bad as it gets, but the Torchic is awesome, and makes it decent anyways.

orchid stone
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another fire alarm

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excuse me

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USELESS FIRE ALARM

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spearak

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finally something that fire alarm can attack

unique hawk
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Flying... poison?

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Maybe Flying/Bug.

orchid stone
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yea]

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bug

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epic 7 ember montage starts now

unique hawk
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Flying Spiders? Sweet merciful Arceus, just end me now.

orchid stone
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they exist

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they can use their web

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one got onto my face

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i didn;t leave my house after that for a week

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WOW

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IT 1 SHOT

unique hawk
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...okay, Golbuffet was pretty awesome...

orchid stone
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FIRE ALARM

unique hawk
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But I think I have a new favorite.

orchid stone
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who?

unique hawk
orchid stone
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LMAO

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OMG IT ALMOST KILLED NOT USELESS

unique hawk
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I'm totally getting this 'mon just because it's called GRAVE BUFFET.

orchid stone
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good grave buffet

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now i have stones in my mouth

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excuse me if you may

thin imp
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geodude fusions look like they're trying to take a dump
graveler fusions look like they're trying harder to take a dump

unique hawk
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And then... Gravebuffet...

orchid stone
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omg skippedlegday is going to

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kill

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FAKE OUT FAILED

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N-NANI

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THAT IS THE ONLY ATATCK HE HAS

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she

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my bad

unique hawk
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Only works on the first turn he's out.

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(She.)

orchid stone
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bye skippedlegday

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notuseless dealt the final blow

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i mean

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almost every blow

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i am releasing skipped legday

unique hawk
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Noooooooooooo!

orchid stone
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literally more useless than fire alarm

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imawonder trade

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ima catch an azutini

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...or a woosaur

unique hawk
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The reverse would have been better, but yeah, that's probably pretty good.

orchid stone
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how od u wonder trade

unique hawk
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Top floor of any (most maybe?) pokecenters.

orchid stone
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first pokecenter doesn;t ahve

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i need to beat my rival

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UGHH

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omg..

unique hawk
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You're finding Buffets too! 😄

orchid stone
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nice destiny bond amte

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mate

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WHY CRITICAL

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OMG

unique hawk
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Welca uses sock! The wild Doby runs away!

orchid stone
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crap dude my rival is op

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it has that darned move named peck

unique hawk
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Oh, you mean that one that says get wrecked if you have a bulbasaur? 😃

orchid stone
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yes

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Nah mate

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fire alarm can't kill anything

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without getting hit

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level 5...wooo...

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A DUMITE

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this is rad ngl

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should i catch it? @unique hawk

unique hawk
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Ghost doesn't do much against that rival problem, but... electric might be handy depending what other stuff appears.

orchid stone
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if it survives fire alarm's ember which she will then she's climbing the disaster ride that this team is

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oh god i have 1 ball

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NO

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UGHH\

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1 more elvel for fire alarm and he's 7

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i don't even have money for balls RIP

lethal dove
orchid stone
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LMAO

lethal dove
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He came with Sturdy

orchid stone
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3 more levels for fire alarm and he's going to be an abomination

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not that he is already

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boss fight

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first level 5

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woo we won!

lethal dove
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Woo woo woosaur! Wait

orchid stone
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yeah notuseless

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OH YEAH?

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NOW YOU SHOW UP?

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AZUTINI.

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AFTER I'VE BECOME STRONG?

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HMPH

lethal dove
#

That face is telling you that it is sorry it thought you weren't worthy

orchid stone
#

h m m

lethal dove
#

Azutini desires forgiveness and understands if you won't be it's friend

orchid stone
#

it literally only knows leer and splash

lethal dove
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Just gotta switch it in and out until it doesn't

orchid stone
#

naah

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BOSS FIGHT BABY

lethal dove
#

Maybe even unfuse and refuse for the Azu body because Huge Power + Dragon Dance

orchid stone
lethal dove
#

Instead of 'aw shit' we now say 'aw Shielts'

orchid stone
#

yes

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1 more level

#

and he evolves

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can;t wait

lethal dove
#

One day he will be bootiful butterfli

unique hawk
#

Gligar is normally a favorite of mine, but... he seems so pointless in this game, I've had a ground/flying guy since route 8. 😄

#

Also, oh snap, Shielts would be strooooooonk.

orchid stone
#

i hope evolutions

#

are

#

randomized

lethal dove
#

They are not! I can confirm!
Also, fuse Gligar with a pokemon that could use Toxic Heal

orchid stone
#

WHAT

lethal dove
#

It will be a Charizard/Butterfree

orchid stone
#

nice..

lethal dove
#

Or... Butterfree/Charizard... Whichever

unique hawk
#

That would be much better.

orchid stone
#

OMG

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AZUTINI HAS BUBBLE

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WELCOME TO THE TEAM

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wait

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i have no balls

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FAAAAAAAAAA

lethal dove
#

LOL

orchid stone
#

just a bit more

#

BUTTERMELEON

#

LMFAO

unique hawk
#

Buttermeleon!

orchid stone
#

ooo confusion!

#

omg it ahs harden

unique hawk
#

Whoa, hang on, does that have compoundeyes?

#

That'd be sick on a fire guy.

remote wing
#

buttermeleon mmm

orchid stone
unique hawk
#

Totally does.

#

So like, Fire Fang would be 100% accuracy on that guy, and flame blast like 80. XD

orchid stone
#

Time to train notuseless

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azutini has thunder wave

#

wow

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almost level 6 alright

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OMG

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NOTUSELESS IS SUPER EFFECTIVE AGAINST THE LIL SHIELT

distant dagger
#

How did you get the idea that evolutions were randomized?

orchid stone
#

it's normal for them to be randomized wdym

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BOSS FIGHT BABY

unique hawk
#

That seems silly to me...

distant dagger
#

How is it normal for evolutions to be randomized?

#

It never says anything like that in the options

orchid stone
#

If the game is 100% randomized like i did

unique hawk
#

Though, admittedly, a randomized pokemon run is something I've literally never done before.

orchid stone
#

it should be normal to have an option to randomize them too

unique hawk
#

Will probably try it in this.

distant dagger
#

There's not an option for it though, and it'd be weird if it was on by default

orchid stone
#

NotUseless is op holy mother of god

distant dagger
#

And the way it randomizes is not like the universal randomizer does

orchid stone
#

NotUseless....Expert Killer

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Duuude if a level 10 fire alarm would fight a level 6 notuseless fire alarm would lose

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i'm gonna wipe out misty with notuseless cause it had water absorb

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wait

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gym leaders are randomizer

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randomized*

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vine whip or mud shot

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mud shot would be better

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tbh

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OMG

#

LMFAO

#

RALKERN

remote wing
#

pretty

lethal dove
distant dagger
nova thunder
lethal dove
#

That just wants to give a slimy kiss

orchid stone
#

baack

distant dagger
orchid stone
#

we left off in viridian forest

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with r a l k e rn

hidden bison
#

It's a plane

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no its really abird

orchid stone
#

it detaches it's muscles

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then it flies with them

hidden bison
#

Steel/Fairy

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Huge power

orchid stone
#

fairy is in this game...?

hidden bison
#

quite nice

#

yes

orchid stone
#

well it;s a trainer battle

#

OMG

idle zealot
#

Wow

outer ice
orchid stone
#

fire alarm was useless

#

OMG

#

GEOBUFF

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@unique hawk

orchid stone
icy terrace
#

I JUST FOUND A GAMER

orchid stone
#

e?

icy terrace
orchid stone
#

yes

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omg yes

icy terrace
#

brock had this master piece but i didnt screenshot it

orchid stone
hidden bison
#

@orchid stone the one with Smearhoot scared me XD looking at it for 3 minutes and still cant be unhorrified lol

orchid stone
#

hah rip

hidden bison
#

Like my mind cant wrap around the face XD

orchid stone
#

ikr

hidden bison
remote wing
#

ADORABLE

hidden bison
remote wing
#

ADORABLE

orchid stone
#

custom?

hidden bison
#

infdeed

unique hawk
#

Heh, I think "Unbusken" is going to evolve into "Uniken" 😄

orchid stone
#

I want a list of all customs

#

plesa

#

nvm

unique hawk
#

That would be a very long list... probably easier to check the Custom Battlers folder after downloading the ones suggested in the FAQ?

orchid stone
#

i read faq

hidden bison
#

I'm trying to download the ones in the faq and google drive is looking like its gonna take two hours

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just to prepare the zip file

orchid stone
#

How do you download them?

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do you download them separately or as a zip

#

then wehre do you put them?

hidden bison
#

go to the google drive in the faq and just

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rightlick the whole folder you wnant and google drive will zip it up for you to download

orchid stone
#

and where do we put it

hidden bison
#

Most likely the graphics folder s i r

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D:<

orchid stone
#

how

#

are

#

big

#

are

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28 are only 4 mb

#

oh

unique hawk
#

Que? Gardevoir can't use Moonblast?

hidden bison
#

Definitely UNFUSING this thing

unique hawk
#

Uhhh... YEAH. For sure.

#

I mean... that might be neat, but certainly not good.

hidden bison
#

Yeah lol

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I got a farmite as my starter

#

I'll defuse that and put magnemite on cyndaquil

#

The Head is HP SPA and SPD right?

#

while the Body is Atk Def and speed?

remote wing
#

nope

#

head is hp atk and def

hidden bison
remote wing
#

and then the bodys the specials and speed

pallid ore
#

Not quite

#

Hp and specials are head

remote wing
#

OH

#

HUH

hidden bison
remote wing
#

im dumb h

hidden bison
#

the faq says this (10) A Fusion's base stats are based on a weighted average of both halves, as follows:
(2/3)xBody + (1/3)xHead for Atk, Def, and Spd
(2/3)xHead + (1/3)xBody for HP, Sp.Atk, and Sp.Def

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Isn't that outdated?

pallid ore
#

No

hidden bison
#

well thats worded a bit misleadingly

#

but it is Body for atk, def, spd

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and head for hp, sp.atk, sp.def

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the 2/3 stats are shown on the row where they apply

orchid stone
#

zipping all files

#

reee

hidden bison
#

Question, the first one you pick that becomes the body or head?

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I don't see aoption so xD

pallid ore
hidden bison
pallid ore
#

This FAQ shit still cracks me up

orchid stone
#

around 190 files are 13 mb

#

takes 30 secs

#

should ig et the icosn too?

#

should i get the icons too* ?

hidden bison
#

Yeah looks like you just throw the sprites into the Custom battlers folder

orchid stone
#

i mean installing the zip

#

my internet is really good

hidden bison
#

and idk I just got everything.

orchid stone
#

also i threw the folders

#

i replaced them

#

i like how zipping the icons takes longer than the actual sprites

hidden bison
#

I downloaded the sprite packs instead and just coipy pasted each sprite pack

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in

#

so you're gonna have to go into each folder and do that pretty sure

orchid stone
#

n

#

o

#

you can just replace the folders

#

lol

hidden bison
#

What folders?

orchid stone
#

in the screenshot

pallid ore
#

Or search for 'png' and ctrl+a ctrl+v them

hidden bison
#

Oh for battlers yeah

#

I see that now, mine was the sprite packs though

#

so I didn't have the numbered folders

#

I'll do that nao too

orchid stone
#

the icons are taking a lot to downlaod

#

th

#

finally

orchid stone
#

waa

remote wing
#

:D

hybrid cave
#

2 favorite ghost pokemons into one basicaly

orchid stone
hybrid cave
#

high special def att and high def

#

pure ghost

orchid stone
#

how do u do that

#

i wanna see too

hybrid cave
#

this link

orchid stone
#

it's actually better than my op starter

hybrid cave
#

@orchid stone do steelix blissey and be amazed

orchid stone
#

k

#

OMG LOL

hybrid cave
#

xD

#

told u to be amazed :x

orchid stone
unique hawk
#

So uh... do I just win now? XD I mean... doesn't work on ghosts, kinda works on normals, but... that's a thing.

orchid stone
#

remonaut

hybrid cave
#

@unique hawk

#

bug steel

#

only weak to fire

#

wondergaurd

#

x)

unique hawk
#

Mine's weak only to dark, which isn't as good as fire, but the endeavor to put the foe at 1hp, and priority shadow sneak is nuuuuuuuts. 😄

#

Threw on thunder wave for easy catching too, but that should probably be like... endure, or will-o-wisp or something.

#

Toxic maybe.

#

The King's rock is kinda pointless too, unless I'm trying to kill purely with Shadow Sneak, but whatever.

outer ice
simple osprey
outer ice
#

done haha

unique hawk
#

Nice. 😄

outer ice
#

thanks 😄

lethal dove
hybrid cave
#

worst worst then a bug going hard style

#

one that go harstyle and poison u

lethal dove
unique hawk
#

Now how do THOSE work?

lethal dove
#

Me, hoping that if I make a Lanturn fusion, the water typing also means I can get Volt Absorb, then finding out it gets Illuminate:
:(

#

I was hoping to make a water/fire with volt absorb, or a fire/eletric with water absorb, but water absorb is apparently a hidden ability, and volt absorb is the second ability

unique hawk
unique hawk
unique hawk
lethal dove
#

What the--

unique hawk
#

Yup.

#

That's pretty much exactly how I felt. XD

distant dagger
#

It looks unholy

orchid stone
#

unbusken is more unholy

unique hawk
#

I don't know maaaan... Victreelord's preeeeeetty terrifying. XD

orchid stone
#

i'd rather see victreelord in a dark cave than unbusked tbh

distant dagger
#

Unbusken is more... soulless

orchid stone
#

unbusken

distant dagger
#

It just stares

orchid stone
unique hawk
#

Needz moar mohawk.

lethal dove
unique hawk
#

Do a Granbull/Gible! 😄

remote wing
#

:D

orchid stone
#

Can I have a list of all custom sprites i already downloaded everything the faq recommends

remote wing
#

well you could like. download the ones in sprite gallery rn

orchid stone
#

i mean like a folder

remote wing
#

did you check the google drive :?

pearl zealot
#

does clefairy learn moon blast

orchid stone
pallid ore
#

@lethal dove lanturn head (water) should be volt absorb, because the abilities got reversed in IF

idle zealot
worn bison
#

angry egg

junior lily
#

Metagross gives Psychic-type as the body, right?

pallid ore
#

Yes

unique hawk
#

lol... Shed-king. 😄

#

ALL HAIL, THY KING OF SHED...

orchid stone
#

the king is shedding

idle zealot
#

LOL

hidden bison
#

@lethal dove but how do magnets even work

unique hawk
#

That thing BETTER have magnet pull.

potent forum
#

ay ampharos sprites?

stiff sorrel
#

eh?

potent forum
#

ampharos sprites

unique hawk
#

There's... 2 for every pokemon in the whole game... is there a question here?

loud parrot
#

kingdra's head is water I'm pretty sure

proud crane
#

yep

hybrid cave
#

if shedking fusion was otherway around, would make that broinja?

#

i think i need sum sleep

proud crane
#

I think you do

hybrid cave
#

xD

cerulean vine
junior lily
#

someone needs to make that. 🤣

unique hawk
jade crow
obsidian shore
#

Do I use Steelix/Hitmonlee, or Butterfree/Hitmonlee? Steelix gets better stats, but Butterfree gives me compoundeyes so I can have 100% accurate highjumpkick

#

I think having perfect accuracy on some lower hit moves could be fun to have on a pokemon, so I might try butterfree/hitmonlee

proud crane
#

The Hitmons are notable for their really high SpDef, so I'm naturally drawn to the Hitmonlee/Steelix combo

#

But Butterfree has some cool tricks, and High Jump Kick really benefits from it. You can always fuse Steelix with something else

obsidian shore
#

I don't have an onix, but I'm right next to mount moon so I was considering it

#

another issue with Butterfree/hitmonlee is that with butterfree head it gets a 4x flying weakness

#

but it is a good deal faster

#

at 81 speed, opposed to ~40 with steelix

#

but a 100% accurate stone edge can take care of any flying mon it outspeeds/survives

obsidian shore
#

Tentacruel/steelix looks pretty good, so I might actually make that one

#

Not incredibly offensive, but Really good defensively

#

78hp, 155def, 102spdef

#

and water/ground

proud crane
#

Steelix always gives Steel in fusion

obsidian shore
#

oh

#

Water/steel still good

unique hawk
#

LOL... /slow clap for Bidoof

#

Well played...

unique hawk
#

Ermagerrrrrrd, It's a Mewthreeeeeeeeee! Why is it in Spanish though?

lethal dove
#

LOL
What is Mewuno to you

hidden bison
#

hey guys wanna ask, I have hounor and I want it as head

what do you suggest to become the body?

proud crane
hidden bison
#

bruh, okay thank you

stiff sorrel
#

@proud crane I hope I didn't deliver you a migraine with my wave of old fusions

proud crane
#

nah, I was pretty backed up anyway and didn't really notice

#

hence uploading two packs at once

unique hawk
#

@lethal dove : Mewuno is like those foreign knock-off re-tellings of fairy tales in Pokemon form. 😃

hybrid cave
#

it would make more sense to fuse uknown with ditto

#

since we cant tell their gender, nor why it can be both or nothing

languid creek
#

With charizard which does Rhyhorn have to be give it its ground typing head or body?

junior lily
#

Rhyhorn(Head)/Charizard(Body)

simple osprey
#

boi I already told you

languid creek
#

This was before I asked u @simple osprey

#

Now I wonder which ability to keep rock head or blaze

simple osprey
#

oh wait...my pc~time is behind

languid creek
#

Should I keep rock head or blaze for the ability?

simple osprey
#

so I saw the message at "21:45"

junior lily
#

Rock Head

simple osprey
#

Rock head, blaze is useless

junior lily
#

because it turns into Solid Rock

languid creek
#

Is there a fusion sprite for rhydon/charizard? Or rhyperior/charizard

junior lily
#

no, afaik

languid creek
#

?

cyan tiger
#

Not that I've collected at least

junior lily
#

as far as I know

languid creek
#

Ah

#

Well how’s your chance sprite makers there’s an idea for u to do XD

#

Also how do u evolve magneton in this?

cyan tiger
#

I believe that's been changed recently. It used to be a Magnet Stone, but I think now you just have to level it up around the Power Plant? Which is why you're now allowed to walk there instead of needing surf?

languid creek
#

Wait I can walk there now

#

I just obtained surf from the safari

cyan tiger
#

You can't get into it without plot, but the grass patches are still out in front of it.

languid creek
#

Plot?

cyan tiger
#

Story progression. The key in is tied to a game event.

languid creek
#

Ah

unique hawk
#

Seems to still be magnet stone actually.

unique hawk
#

Wait a sec, does Rhyperior have 2 abilities? Pokemon.txt on drive (which is out of date..) says you'd have to have Rhyperior as body to get Solid Rock, which would give you rock typing.

junior lily
#

Rhyperior also has Lighting Rod, but the Ground part gives Solid Rock.

wanton ore
#

Rhypeape seems pretty strong

junior lily
#

Yeah, especially since it doesn't have 4x weaknesses.

wanton ore
#

huge advantage indeed

cerulean vine
junior lily
#

I didn't know about Rhyperior having Solid Rock before playing this game and it's one of my favorite mons.

unique hawk
#

So his types were flipped then...

#

Better for body anyways.

#

@junior lily : Isnt that Rhypeape name backwards? Wouldn't that be rhyperior head mankey body?

junior lily
#

I renamed the sprite since I wanted it to have Rhyperior's body.

unique hawk
#

Nothing wrong with that I guess. :)

dim sentinel
#

is there some where, where i can request someone to make custom spirites?

chrome terrace
#

spritework

keen thunder
#

can someone make a gyrados and nidoking fusion nidoking as head

cerulean vine
unique hawk
#

Mmmmmmm.... yeaaaaaaaah... I mean... it's well DONE, but I don't love it...

elder scroll
#

What fusion program is that?

robust crater
hidden bison
#

o

#

ok

hard yoke
worn bison
#

lick weed everyday

hard yoke
#

fixed it

simple osprey
unique hawk
#

But what can one whiff of the HONEY DO?!?

hard yoke
unique hawk
#

Seems legit. :)

hard yoke
#

: )

hybrid cave
hidden bison
#

@hybrid cave where can you calculate stats like that ?

#

Check pins

#

eitherway, a rhydon(body) Snorlax(head) is BEEFY Base Hp:160 atk:130 def:120 spatt: 65 spdef: 110 sp:40 Total : 625

#

i checked it and i have no idea how to use the preview tool v4.0

#

and normal rock

unique hawk
#

Preview tool isnt hard but my phone doesn't like it. :P

unique hawk
#

Also, 685... pretty much top tier? I need to play with that thing more, but that sounds astronomically high.

hybrid cave
#

it is

#

especialy where its strenght lays compared to weakness

#

rock x4, electric and water x2

#

but special def is 150

#

@unique hawk

#

and speed is also extreemly high

unique hawk
#

Rock is pretty easy to avoid.

hybrid cave
#

yea

#

well

#

bruno still though

#

but yea

unique hawk
#

Kinda finding that in this game, legends mean a lot less to me.

#

Like normally Articuno and Zapdos are instant adds to my party, but here... practically irrelevant.

#

Basically Zapdos replaced my lesser Electrode/Golem fusion, and Articuno got a quick trip to a PC. 😂

hybrid cave
#

well u could try electrode machamp kind of

#

electrode has high speed

#

and if u can learn it skill like fisure

unique hawk
#

Didn't really like Pikachu/Machamp so meh. :)

#

Plus I have my insanely broken Shedinja. 😆

hybrid cave
#

u not get it

#

u use electrode only for his speed

#

and give that ability of machamp

unique hawk
#

Hmm, true..

hybrid cave
#

see this speed

#

and normaly it can learn that 1 hit ko move

#

giving no gaurd

unique hawk
#

Yeah, did the no guard krabby thing once but I think No Guard was broken then.

hybrid cave
#

what it normaly should do

unique hawk
#

Yeah, didn't work with guillotine, so I haven't tried it since.

hybrid cave
#

welp

unique hawk
#

While we're on the subject, what are people's favorite fusions with legends?

#

I loved that idea of fusing birds to dogs. :)

#

I also made "Mewtres" as a gaff. :)

#

Not sure what I'm doing with Mew/Arceus yet.

#

Mew/Mewtwo sounds fun but probably useless.

hybrid cave
#

well

#

the one i mentioned

#

is actualy my fav

#

all though its 2 legends

#

but yea

#

fire and fly type aint so bad

#

togekiss mewtwo is also one of the funny ones

unique hawk
#

Mewgia? :) maybe Mew-Oh, but I think Ho-Oh needs that boost less?

hybrid cave
#

????

#

whats that question even

unique hawk
#

Debating things to fuse legends with, no current plan for mew.

hybrid cave
#

rather do lugia with mew

unique hawk
#

I have the fusion you listed now.

hybrid cave
#

otherwise u get to much x2 stats

#

elements*

unique hawk
#

Yup, agreed.

#

Also no real plan for Arceus, but I feel like he could just be a stat boost to pretty much anything.

hybrid cave
#

celebi ho-oh though

#

ho-oh head

unique hawk
#

Oooh sunny day and fire/grass...

hybrid cave
#

wait

#

wat

#

i just found something weird

#

2 different pokemons with absoluut no changes

unique hawk
#

Both 100 all stats...

#

So, no matter what it gets 33.3 from one and 66.6 from the other.

hybrid cave
#

the only difference

#

one is psychic and the other is with grass

#

xD

#

eh dain

#

one is just better for boddy and one is just better for mental

#

but

#

i believe those 2

#

might have exact same stats

#

to trigger this

unique hawk
#

Yuuuup.

#

That's what I'm saying, if you fuse 100 to 100, the order doesn't matter.. only when you have like, 90/120, because then the math is better depending on which is the head/body.

hybrid cave
#

still weaker then blissey steelix though :v

unique hawk
#

That's why I wasnt sure how to fuse my Vilesaur, because Vilesaur gains a bit less speed, and Venuplume gets more bulk, but different typing.

hybrid cave
#

depends the speed total

#

like if it worth it to go for speed or not

#

ill look up

pallid ore
#

Mewtwo/porygon-z is my favorite legendary fusion I think...well it's just one legend, but that counts for me

hybrid cave
#

70spd aint worth it

#

80 is

#

at 70 u still face many counters

unique hawk
#

Yeah, doesn't have to be 2 legends, I'm just curious what people do with them because mine were basically just upgrades.

hybrid cave
#

more value in bulky then

#

well if u had to choose between, 60-70 speed that is

#

all though

#

its only 2 more hp points

unique hawk
#

Yeah, they're pretty close..

#

I went with Vilesaur because I liked it more. :)

hybrid cave
#

think speed is less value

#

u lose 10 points on speed but its only 5 points less in overal

#

wich means 5 more in more benefitting stats total

unique hawk
#

For that 'mon yes... but typically I value speed VERY highly.

hybrid cave
#

u get +3 special def and +1 def +2 hp

#

not much of a difference but yea

#

i value it only if u can counter alot of pokemons with it

#

aka if u get fusions with speed of 80 for exsample

#

not many pokemons surpasses that

unique hawk
#

Trying to think of like psychic guys with not so great learn sets for Mew, but like... Alakawhatever generally covers that need. :)

pallid ore
#

Speed is probably better, trainer mons don't have ev, so they're usually really slow

hybrid cave
#

did not thought trainers has no such things

#

then u can value 70

#

but below 70, if the stats are else much higher, u better give up speed

unique hawk
#

Mewtwo/Porygon Z sounds amazing...

pallid ore
#

(with old stat boost)

hybrid cave
#

+-

#

nice offensive stats but

unique hawk
#

Daaaaymn.

hybrid cave
#

woa

#

high speed as well

#

but yea

#

not realy benefitting much of elements

#

though with normal u can learn many different types of elements

#

so that itself is a counter

unique hawk
#

I had an Alagon prior to the evolutions for Porygon... damn impressive, but I try to do different stuff each game.

hybrid cave
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blissey steelix is kind of my favorite fusion so far, deserves a custom sprite

pallid ore
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Just imagine the double stab hyperbeam lol
Still a bad move, but the damage would be sweet

hybrid cave
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lol

unique hawk
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Yeah, I generally just run Tri-attack but that would be siiiiick. :)

hybrid cave
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i mean

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the stats + element

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3 weakness

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but many more resist

pallid ore
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This mewtwo would also profit from the fire/ice/electric hidden power

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Because it's stabs are not the best coverage wise

hybrid cave
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if u got normal element u should be able learn like 4-6 different elements of moves

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unique hawk
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Yeah, sounds frickin'amazing Forever, I just dont really use more than 1 bulky dude and that's my starter. I'll have to try that in a future playthrough. :)

pallid ore
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What do you mean with different elements? 4-6

hybrid cave
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moves

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elemental moves

unique hawk
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I think Alakazam/Porygon's set back before the game was done was like, Psychic/Signal Beam/Tri-Attack/Nasty Plot.

pallid ore
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Tri attack/mewtwos signature move (psychic type)/ice-fire-electric hidden power/ another move

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Probably nasty plot

unique hawk
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He was fragile, but that rarely mattered.

pallid ore
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Because the hidden power, which behaves like the one from the boss birb, covers basically everything
Yeah that alakazam/pory seems strong af

hybrid cave
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searched blissey

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but check what it can learn

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electric, ice, fire, ghost, psychic, ground, normal, grass, poison, rock,dark and fairy moves for dealing dmg it can learn

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having normal type should give u plenty of benefits of what move u can use

unique hawk
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Only issue I have with Blissey is that if you dont pair it with a REALLY powerful attacker (and even sometimes when you do...) you get a staller.

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Which is great if you need that... but I typically only run one.

pallid ore
unique hawk
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Yikers...

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Huge Power boosts how much?

pallid ore
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Double

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On the end result, not base

unique hawk
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Hooooooly crap. :)

pallid ore
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Btw this thing is really fun to use. Not THE best, but pretty decent

unique hawk
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Well, there's where Mew's head belongs. 😂

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Wow, yeah, that's impressive.

pallid ore
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It also learns quiver dance by TM, to full heal every time you attack thisclown