fire ground ghost dark
#fusions
hybrid cave
main creek
Ghost and dark
hidden bison
Shedinja/scizor is bug/steel i think
hidden bison
Head/Body
unique hawk
I like ghost/normals. :)
hidden bison
Wonder guard and only weak to fire
main creek
Same
hybrid cave
heavy weight that can float
hidden bison
Oof nature
hybrid cave
lol
unique hawk
Doing this run with Porygon/Haunter, did Haunter/Snorlax last time. :)
hybrid cave
nature i can fix at fire gym no issue
unique hawk
lol, name...
hybrid cave
@hidden bison i go by a theme, the steel theme
hidden bison
Hmm so that theme means you have to choose the +def nature?
hybrid cave
not realy
its not full steel, but all of them has steel
scizor with shedinja, pretty much offensive xD
it only saddens me that i have to take steelix body more then once though, thats true
but i took skarmory bastiodon as well
unique hawk
Magnemite head?
hybrid cave
i could done it, but not have it xD
and gengar is pretty offensive already with bastiodon enough
unique hawk
Didn't go well with a Geodude, but made a pretty kickass Magnefairy. :)
hybrid cave
well gastly now but yea
steel fairy is cool
it saddens me i cant do it well with togekiss
unique hawk
Magneton/Granbull would be sweet.
hybrid cave
takes the wrong element for good stats
bout togekiss
current team
not realy proud of using 3 times steelix but atm had no better ideas
for the elements i want
unique hawk
I should build a ghost gym lol.
hybrid cave
xD
unique hawk
Cant be the Smeargle god in this game, so ghost gym it is.
(Mainline games I use a crapton of Smeargles for breeding/utility) :)
pallid ore
smeargle is actually pretty good in if
mostly because chansey/blissey exists and there is an encounter where you might be able to steal something interesting for smeargle (spoiler, so i'm not telling what)
hybrid cave
XD
lethal dove
Name him Mickey
unique hawk
That one's from a friend, but that is a great name. 😂
I asked him why normal/ground and he just replied "mouse mouse!"
cerulean stream
I’ve just downloaded the game. Can anyone suggest any strong fusions I can aim to get?
hidden bison
Strong fusions eh
Lots of options
Early game you can try getting a tangela or mr. Mime on route 1
junior lily
Weezing(face)/Tyranitar with Levitate has no weaknesses.
Rhyperior face is good since it reduces the damage of supereffective moves by 0.25
...because it has access to Solid Rock
unique hawk
It's really hard to make a list of just strong stuff, I'm finding. :)
Like in one of my games a Vileplume/Alakazam did a ton, but like... depends on your team.
I guess Gyarizard has done a lot for me too.
My current team's core is just a Vileplume/Bulbasaur. :)
nova sparrow
i found that houndoom head meganium body with flash fire is good? (it has nasty plot, petal dance, synthesis, and dark pulse)
and a good spatk
unique hawk
Oooh, that does sound good, but late game right?
For me the best ones are the ones that carry you. :)
nova sparrow
i got mine through some wts
and refusing
it is very good thou
cause of the access to dark pulse via tutor and petal dance via levelup
unique hawk
I should use wondertrade more...
hidden bison
Man im trying to think of a rly good fusion im blanking
loud parrot
do you want straight up power, or aesthetics?
nova sparrow
(((i mean hounium has aesthetics too lmao)))
hybrid cave
@junior lily also basicaly no strenght xD
hybrid cave
hell doom flower
unique hawk
Some of my repeated ones have been like... Porygon/Alakazam, Gyarados/Nidoking, Fearow/Donphan...
nova sparrow
but Flash Fire
unique hawk
Did Charizard/Nidoking once just for the name... 😂
hidden bison
Oh you used Dumbo eh
hybrid cave
just fuse nidoqueen with ho-oh for ho-queen
hidden bison
Fearow/Donphan
unique hawk
He's pretty good when he can fly. 😂
hidden bison
Ive used so many fusions that i consider some weaker ones good as well
Dewgong/jumpluff for example
Ice/flying with thick fat
Leech seed, leftovers
Fly dive aqua ring
unique hawk
I should make a team of Mr. Gey, Gender, Mr. Queen, and Dragqueen.
hybrid cave
no do trio?
unique hawk
Or make a trainer with them. 😂
hidden bison
Put that in suggestions and schrooms may make a trainer with that team
loud parrot
I mean I've been trying to come up with a concept for a Leafeon Head/Scyther Body fusion, but I can't even come up with a decent sketch
wheat flume
put Mr.Sir in that team, too
hybrid cave
instead of blades, sharp leafs?
loud parrot
so I just went ahead to draw up a gardevoir head/ mismagius body, almost done with the coloring too
hybrid cave
pokemon hitler :v
unique hawk
Was trying to find a way to include a Mankey head, but dont want too many Queen bodies.
Mandude.
hybrid cave
loud parrot
Primequeen, you could make the body fuzzier, include those boxing gloves n' shit, make the snout more swineish
unique hawk
Does it work with Stantler too?
hybrid cave
why do i keep reading dainbread as braindead? 🤔
hidden bison
Ye ingame that fusion is Hitmonler
unique hawk
Because that's the joke.
hybrid cave
ah
n not sure bout stantler
but i think none of those works there
think they avoided hitler to be created
worn bison
can we do stalin too
unique hawk
Could maybe add a Man/Kirlia to that team too...
worn bison
none 😦
unique hawk
My buddy is SO proud of that Ratslash Poke... LOL...
Told him to name it Mickey, but apparently its name is Rattigan. This is also acceptable.
unique hawk
Yeah, it would fuse as Starlin if anything. .
hybrid cave
starculin more like
worn bison
can do a full soviet team
hybrid cave
unique hawk
Natu/Geodude that meme. :)
hybrid cave
naa dude
loud parrot
unfunny memes are funny 👏
unique hawk
Uhh.. does Poison/dark with levitate have any weakness at all?
unique hawk
Yeah so like... Weezing/(dark guy) has 0 weak points if it has levitate, is that possible? Umbreon body?
hybrid cave
did u knew aladin had a brother?
lethal dove
The only way it would get a weakness is by using Miracle Eye, so it would have x2 to Psychic
hybrid cave
unique hawk
I actually considered making this guy this playthrough, lol...
Went with a Dewgong instead for no good reason. 😂
lethal dove
I'm sure Umbreon would work out. Or Absol or Poochyena/Mightyena. If Tyranitar, Shiftry, Sharpedo, Cacturne, and Crawdaunt exists, you could use their secondary dark typing to do this too
unique hawk
Yeah, theres probably way better options later but like.. wheezing could be as early as the sewers.
Maybe even sooner with a dumb amount of grinding.
lethal dove
I was going to try to recommend other Dark types but their typings say Dark is the first type, like if you wanted to do Murkrow. I guess if you switched the head and body around it would be fine??? Not sure.
Too many dark types
unique hawk
Crow would only make dark if the head through right? Loses levitate.
hybrid cave
unique hawk
Honedge is my bae. 😍
lethal dove
Here's the thing:
Wheezing can ONLY have Levitate
So you can ONLY GET Levitate from Weezing
unique hawk
Whaaaaaaa?!?! :)
lethal dove
Just looked it up. You're safe to use it as head or body
loud parrot
that makes weezing fusions very viable, especially the ones with quad ground weaknesses
so like electric, steel, and dark are your best bets
unique hawk
Yeah, probably better as body anyways... just a matter of picking your head then, so like... not Umbreon.
loud parrot
if you use weezing's body, you're gonna get a massive defence buff too, so there's that
loud parrot
poison can be really defensive
lethal dove
So the only weakness a Electric/Poison would have is Psychic. And a Steel/Poison would have only a fire weakness.
unique hawk
Could do wheezing/steelix but that seems far from ideal.
Magneton/wheezing probably better. Maybe Wheezing/Shieldon.
lethal dove
Stats for your Umbreon and Wheezing idea
unique hawk
That's not BAD... not exactly amazing, but with no weak points.
That's about where I'm at right now so, certainly something to consider. :)
Also, love your name, dood. :)
lethal dove
Thank you, dood. I use Prinny wherever I go.
thank you for not throwing me
I MEAN you probably just want to play with this to check out base stats mmhm mmhm
unique hawk
Yeah, my phone doesn't like it.
But will at home. :)
Might be kinda like my chansey/seaking thing, far from ideal but good enough. :)
hybrid cave
@unique hawk full vieuw
elder scroll
the things you discover have custom sprites
lethal dove
SHUPLUME
unique hawk
SpA and SpD kinda lame but that's fine.
cerulean stream
Any good normal/ghost fusions?
hybrid cave
blissey dusclops i think
unique hawk
I looooove Porygon/Haunter. Haunter/Snorlax was pretty good too. And Prinny's would be much stronger but later game. :)
hybrid cave
dusknoir does not realy gain much benefit on evolve
lethal dove
I JUST BARELY PASSED THE SECOND GYM AND APPARENTLY I CAN ONLY THINK LATE GAME
hybrid cave
xD
well beating gyms aint hard though :v
all u gotta do is
lvl up only one pokemon
lethal dove
Hisssss! Level them all and do the minimum amount of grinding possible!
lethal dove
I don't have it
hybrid cave
while having a pokemon lvl 100 early on elite 4
:x
all u gotta do is
train early only one pokemon
unique hawk
I COULD do that but I generally don't.
hybrid cave
does not mean u cant catch more
hybrid cave
its good when u gotta take low lvl pokemon with u lol
hidden bison
and the Lucky egg is the best exp item
unique hawk
I try to make sure my level range is never more than 15. Like, my guys now are 34-43.
unique hawk
Means the gyms are normally waaaaay higher level, but I overcome that with types/strategy.
lethal dove
Misty had like level 24 and I was beating her with level 15s
hidden bison
didnt you do nugget bridge ?
cerulean stream
Okay but what about good looking normal/ghost type fusions 😅
lethal dove
Yes
hybrid cave
good looking wew
lethal dove
And still had level 15s
hidden bison
how are your mons only lvl 15
unique hawk
Yeah, Oddusaur slaughtered Misty. 😂
hidden bison
to keep my mons at appropriate lvls
lethal dove
They got 2 levels since then though
I WILL IF YOU CHALLENGE ME SIR
pallid ore
high bst randomizer = easiest version of playing the game
hybrid cave
legendary pokemons every time u fight gym leaders
i lost 8 times to brock this way, cause i didt wanna level up before hand xD
unique hawk
Brock kicked my ass my first playthrough. 😂
I was just like "and now time for this pushove... oh daymn."
lethal dove
I lost a bunch to a forced battle trainer in a completely randomized Black 2 because they had a level 10 Charmander with ice type moves and most of my pokemon were bug/dragon for some freakin' reason
hybrid cave
when u got a fire type with u, and brock sends out mew with golem fusion
unique hawk
Anyone ever tried an all wondertrade playthrough? 😂 Like, set like a Nuzlocke catch rule and force trade your guy every area, play what you get?
unique hawk
The badge level caps would be fun!
pallid ore
- a randomized starter
lethal dove
Wondertrade has been good to me so far though. A Mareep/Ryhorn fusion with lightning rod was my first WT
hybrid cave
randomnize starter below 30, randomnize trainer 999
pallid ore
randomizing trainers with high numbers means hard early game but way easier late game. its really weird
unique hawk
Yeah, kinda prefer the smaller ranges personally.
unique hawk
Magikarp starter reminds me of a Euro MMO Pokemon game... where like, I'd spend my day fishing, and just hand Magikarps to everyone at Prof. Oak.
Misty did not have a good time in that game.
pallid ore
1 out of 3 magikarps?
hybrid cave
what it means to start with magikarps
yes
all 3 where magikarps
had to laugh and was like, remake
unique hawk
It would be pretty useless, lol.
junior lily
just magikarps or magikarp fusions?
hybrid cave
u do realise u have to go trough grass and back be4 u get pokeballs
and i didt done fusion that time
was long ago though
pallid ore
but i was talking about trainers? or did you just want to mention that you got that once?
unique hawk
It was literally just firered, but everyone playing was in the world, so; just Magikarps.
lethal dove
Actually it's just hard. Just Splash and Splash until you kill by struggling. Make sure to battle only the weakest and lowest of leveled pokemon, and use potions more often than a pokecenter
hybrid cave
i had to choose my starter pokemon and all 3 where magikarps
unique hawk
But like, because I was doing that, everyone had a Karp leveling pre-brock...
So by Misty it would be evolved already...
hybrid cave
splash should deal atleast 1 dmg if its a starter move
lets face it
even 1hp cost a time takes forever
it just takes less forever
lethal dove
I know there's a guy somewhere who did a pokemon playthrough where he could ONLY use Magikarp (couldn't even evolve it if I remember right)
I think he only lost because it glitched and made it where he couldn't win.
Because it made Splash the only usable move at 0/40pp
unique hawk
That would only work in Gen 1 before struggle didn't hit ghosts...
hybrid cave
splash= enemy think less high of u, lowering defence
unique hawk
Lol...
hybrid cave
xD
unique hawk
Splash: Confuses the enemy after 5 uses
lethal dove
It was. Just found the vid. Jrose11 was doing a red/blue playthrough with only Magikarp
I can send the link... somewhere. General, I guess. If anyone wants to see it
unique hawk
I mean, with Gen1 stat calculations... I think that's actually possible, LOL..
Pretty sure it doesn't work in the remakes though... unless those are before Struggle became normal type.
hybrid cave
no offens but u either have to be very luck that u not often get hit at magikarp due the amount of potion costs
cause early
u dont realy got cash for enough potions
unique hawk
Yeah, you'd be spending 30 hours beating misty for sure.
hybrid cave
and how much would that cost potions? XD
hybrid cave
yea
unique hawk
...but I think it's possible.
hybrid cave
only after u get magikarp to lvl 15
then its possible
but how many potions u not gonna waste to reach that
unique hawk
Mmmm... still going to have that problem though.
unique hawk
Also, you would need to make sure you dont take the squirtle because leech seed would make your rival impossible.
hybrid cave
so u can tackle it to death
thats actualy not true
once u get tackle
u can train the pokemon lvl 100 be4 entering elite 4 xD
lethal dove
The guy actually used 'Squirtle' so he HAD Bulbasaur
hybrid cave
also
i think leech seed wont be much benefit on magikarp
i believe magikarp does not have high hp
unique hawk
Ah, maybe yeah.
hybrid cave
244 max hp
pretty high for a mere fish
but not high enough i think to say it matters the win ratio
unique hawk
That leech seed is going to undo a LOT of tackles and struggles.
unique hawk
lol... The thought of using PP up on Tackle...
unique hawk
Yeah, but how is that happening? I'd say Payday Meowth, but not in that run..
hybrid cave
thats
actualy not that hard
all u need is get magikarp lvl up to 15 early
and
beat alot of wild pokemons
so ur not forced to spend alot of money in early game after lvl 15
if ur like 20 lvls above the enemy (annoying to manage) then tackle will do itself alot of dmg
meaning since tackle would deal enough dmg, u can spare potions
unique hawk
Maybe.. man, I almost want to try that, but it sounds so tedious.
Just fuse it to a Dratini and be done with it. :)
unique hawk
Actually, that's another fun idea, make an early game trader that sells you like a LV1 Magikarp/Dratini fusion for hilarious dragon evolution fun times. :)
hybrid cave
@unique hawk
1 question
why did he not learn magikarp
bubblebeam
he gains that move from misty
he easly could wipe ghost with that move
lethal dove
I don't think Magikarp can learn Bubblebeam?
unique hawk
Nah, pretty sure it cant... gyarados can.
hybrid cave
normaly
gen 1 was basicaly
if its a water pokemon
u can learn any water moves xD
nova sparrow
it gets the beam id imagine
hybrid cave
'normaly'
lethal dove
Bounce is for an event. Same with a Dragon Rage Magikarp, one with Celebrate, etc
It gets Flail at 30 in later gens though
nova sparrow
:/
nova sparrow
:)
lethal dove
:)
nova sparrow
waterguntmcoughcough
hybrid cave
even the Z move ist that usefull
lethal dove
Even with water tms Magikarp learns nothing
hybrid cave
Z-Move effects
When a Pokémon is holding Normalium Z and uses its Z-Power, Splash turns into Z-Splash and raises Attack three stages, in addition to its usual effect as above.
nova sparrow
h
lethal dove
The best you got for gen 1 Magikarp is time traveling back to when they handed out Magikarp with Dragon Rage for a anniversary event and hacking it as your level 5 starter
But even then that's splash, tackle, and dragon rage
hybrid cave
dragon rage can atleast take out ghosts
lethal dove
Fair.
nova sparrow
thats gen 1 foe you
hybrid cave
n i forgotten that gen1 on enemy side did not track enemy pp
lethal dove
It might be easier to do when you have gen 1 remakes though
hybrid cave
fire red leaf green
hybrid cave
haha u wish
u need to lvl up magikarp
be4 u get the candys
all though if u are to use it, the later the better
cerulean vine
unique hawk
Lulz..
worn bison
wut
cerulean stream
Is there a list of the custom sprites that are in the base game already anywhere?
worn bison
there is like more than 5000 done
cerulean stream
Really?!
cerulean stream
I didn’t think there were that many
worn bison
tbh same
pallid ore
base game has like 13 sprite packs i think
pallid ore
it did say that somewhere, but i dont remember where
worn bison
maybe
pallid ore
ah the pokecommunity thread
worn bison
i got 5298 custome sprite in my CustomBattlers folder
cerulean stream
I’ve just started and the only fusion I have is ratgey 😅 and noticed it didn’t looked horribly stretched
pallid ore
upload your sprite folder monhuque, k thx
worn bison
well, they should be in Custom Sprites
cerulean stream
Anyone got any idea what I should fuse my charmander with?
lethal dove
So I was thinking of fusing my Omanyte with a Vulpix or Charmander to get a Fire/Water and it seems kinda cool at first but... I feel like there is a better fire type I could use?
@cerulean stream A Charmander/Mankey would look like this
cerulean stream
If I do charmander head then that’d be pretty good then right?
lethal dove
It wouldn't be bad according to base stats. Don't forget you're learning moves from the Charmander line and Mankey line. It would be a nice physical attacker.
cerulean stream
@lethal dove would it be any good later on in the game tho?
lethal dove
I would recommend, for late game, breeding a Charmander to get Dragon Dance then fusing it if you're wanting to do it late game
cerulean stream
I don’t know if they’d be better fusion with different mons separately tho. I’m new to the game
lethal dove
Well, get onto the calculator and play around then.
Build a team from there
Or just fuse pokemon and find out what works
cerulean stream
Could you give me a link?
lethal dove
cerulean stream
Thanks man
loud parrot
why are hyper offensive psychic/ghost types so good?
in fact, why is ghost such a good type in general?
wispy flax
psychic ghost.. wow.
loud parrot
gardemagius is a new pokemon of mine, and she just murdered blaine
wispy flax
I just realized that makes no sense, I mean the fact that it's 4x weak to dark and ghost.
loud parrot
went to Johto for Gio, she murdered half of everyone there
wispy flax
ghost is stab against itself
loud parrot
yeah, hyper offensive, meaning not having to take hits, only K I L L
wispy flax
and psychic can deal with poison types
and most psychic types get lots of type coverage
unique hawk
Why is this Wobbuffet/Snorlax not terrible? XD
loud parrot
Like... this thing is a monster
unique hawk
Also, yes, Psychic ghosts are awesome, but I'm still in love with normal/ghosts. 😄
That thing is BEAUTIFUL! 😄
loud parrot
if you think that's beautiful you should see what I drew for it
still wish I can sprite
wispy flax
I can sprite, I'm just no good at the art aspect of it, I can only really combine parts and make them good instead of making stuff from scratch.
loud parrot
I mainly take references for poses, and of the subject if it's fanart
if it's something original all I do is take the poses, combine them into a new one, and then throw in the meat n' stuff to make something
2 or 3 poses usually do
unique hawk
Koga is no match for Poryter. 😃
loud parrot
porygon fusions are just powerful
unique hawk
Is there anywhere to just catch a Clefairy, or do I have to go through this slog with a Cleffa again? 😛
hard yoke
I wish they had unova pokemon so I could fuse trubbish with vanillite
unique hawk
Oh JESUS, I fused my PayDay meowth into a Teddyursa... what have I done?! 😄
wispy flax
BuildABear
lethal dove
Trying to figure out what I want to fuse my Omanyte and Treecko with and... I was hoping for a fire type for my Omanyte but what if I fused Treecko and Omanyte?
lethal dove
Unless I somehow magically get an Arceus then Omanyte will be fused with it for the ULTIMATE GOD
lethal dove
No. Praise Helix
loud parrot
that's not a god, that's just the Taiwanese Chef that keeps following me everywhere
loud parrot
fuse the omanyte and treecko for a water/grass type
wispy flax
dab
loud parrot
there's a mutual benefitialy relationship between those two since sceptile sucks and omastar is slightly faster, but it still hits hard
lethal dove
loud parrot
better to just calculate the final evolutions fusion
lethal dove
loud parrot
that water/grass fusion kinda looks heat
wispy flax
Only weak to flying, bug, poison right?
loud parrot
right
wispy flax
Rock type from omastar moveset covers two of those.
lethal dove
Not that bad, but I'm curious to see what abilities I have to pick from. I do not want another Swift Swim user
Also weak to Freeze Dry ×4 I think
loud parrot
the only downside is that sceptile is completely lacking in moves
wispy flax
and then just get earthquake or earthpower for poison.
Freeze dry is a super rare move to come across, I would not worry.
pallid ore
its not even in the game, so no need to worry about that
lethal dove
Overgrow or Shell Armor would be abilities I get to pick. Shell armor isn't bad, but... I feel like there could be better
loud parrot
also we just gonna flex our fusions in this one?
also I'd just say go for the omanyte/treecko fusion
water/grass is a ridiculous type combination
loud parrot
why do you have 3 water types?!
wispy flax
wut
lethal dove
Omanyte/Treecko, Snubbull/Gyarados, Meowth/Marill
loud parrot
the marill's the head?!
lethal dove
I have that. A Slugma/Togetic
wispy flax
Just going to mention tyranitar/magcargos sprite is awesome.
lethal dove
That's been my fire at the mo
wispy flax
oh rip
lethal dove
But yeah this is Math. I nicknamed her Maori, she has a terrible nature, but she's been doing good damage
wispy flax
Just checked my custom sprite folder it got replaced at one point.
I'll need to find the original.
Thats cute
lethal dove
She is adorable I love her
wispy flax
oh
I should make a sprite for it wearing the black glasses haha
If you want me to.
I just think it would look great.
lethal dove
XD if you want. I only made her hold it because Bite and I don't have any better items
wispy flax
Ah, I wont then.
lethal dove
But I didn't think it was bad to do. It was two pokemon I had, didn't even consider stats or anything I just thought 'hey it gets fake out Marill has Huge Power this should work out' and it... Didn't.
loud parrot
really no point in using it
lethal dove
I learned that after joining the server
wispy flax
I use to care about stats but now I just spend hours going through custom sprites and choosing my team members based on the ones I like
loud parrot
I just go in with complete power
I feel like that would be the main point in the concept of fusion to the people in that world that made it
wispy flax
My team is Togechu, Porylix, Suntini, Butterdos, Blisclops, Magtar and that's it.
Prinny who are you talking to?
lethal dove
Stanley...?
wispy flax
I asked zoroark to make a meganium dragonite fusion for me a few days ago, didn't realize it does not evolve until level 52, thought it was 32.
lethal dove
Ouch
pallid ore
" Some pokémon have their first and second abilities swapped for balance or other reasons. These include the evolutionary lines of Pidgey, Ekans, Marill, Chinchou, and others."
pallid ore
marill body gives huge power
wispy flax
Read it more.
pallid ore
reason for that "nerf" was marowak
wispy flax
It says that and it says it prevents some pokemon from giving abilities when fused.
or I'm completely wrong.
and Making my self look stupid.
lethal dove
He is right. This would get Huge Power. Just checked
Figured they just say 'no you can't'
loud parrot
normal/fairy with either huge power or technician
also with the ability to make money
pallid ore
wait, did you save yet, after unfusing and refusing?
wispy flax
it costs 3k for a random nature change
lethal dove
Yes I did
Also, didn't know that. That'll be fun for this guy then
I think it's better to find a better head though
pallid ore
hm the first one you choose when fusing determines the nature (and other stuff) so maybe you could have gotten something better
wispy flax
The daycare levels up pokemon so much
it's free levels for party members you're planning to use later.
pallid ore
you could even soft reset, because upon unfusing the former head pokemon is newly generated
so with some soft resets you could have gotten a decent nature
lethal dove
Possibly.
I AM SO UPSET--
i keep trying to see if there is better Azumarill body fusion and every time man everything just gets lower base stats--
distant dagger
Azumarill just isn't that good bst wise
lethal dove
d: but i love them
main creek
Azudactl
distant dagger
But just remember that huge power with 60 atk is already 120
distant dagger
You'd probably want something with good atk sp.def and possibly def
loud parrot
always fuse an aerodactyl by the body
pallid ore
snorlax would be perfect stat wise technically
distant dagger
No reason to use sp.atk with huge power and speed isn't good for a head
distant dagger
Dragonite is good with anything
main creek
Exactly
loud parrot
actually yeah
distant dagger
Also dragon/fairy boyo
lethal dove
Something happened with the calculator??? It's not showing type 1 and shows numbers instead
Eeek what did I do
distant dagger
My latest message in general is probably the answer
Did you make a personal copy?
Cause then you could just make a new copy and delete the old broken one
lethal dove
No. Been using the public one I get from opening the link
lethal dove
private copy makes sense though i shoulda done that
I reloaded it on my phone multiple times. Not fixing
distant dagger
If it stays broken you'll just have to wait for the person who made it to fix it
lethal dove
Huzzah
distant dagger
Either ruch or sombrebro I think
distant dagger
I don't really get how people even keep breaking it
Just click one of two columns
lethal dove
It looks like it has other pages though so I could use another
lethal dove
i don't know what you mean by click one or two so uh eheheh
distant dagger
Click one for poke nr1 and the other for poke nr2 right?
I've never used it so idk
distant dagger
Oh dear
main creek
Oh no
lethal dove
It's probably why it's messing up. I think it might've been a my bad thing because the keyboard part overlays the add column ;w;
On mobile anyway
So deleting the column fixed it (go figure)
unique hawk
I couldn't seem to use it on my phone, but has it been mixed up for several hours?
pallid ore
i can show you what you were after atleast
lethal dove
Okay that is better thank you Stanley
main creek
140 attk not bad
lethal dove
That's hp
main creek
I was factoring in huge power
lethal dove
Oh right
pallid ore
bit unfotunate it doesnt learn any stab priority moves
main creek
True
pallid ore
but it has curse, so i guess theres that
lethal dove
Return, Curse, Play Rough if it exists, what else-- Aqua Jet? Dark/Ghost move?
main creek
When your stronger than god (arceus)
lethal dove
According to the generator, this is what we may get.
main creek
Yes the god-slayer
main creek
I wouldn't mind a plush of that
rigid jungle
And then there's this monster
main creek
If only that 126 attk with huge power
rigid jungle
I think it would be?
main creek
Doesn't the body have to be azu?
lethal dove
Need Azu body to get Huge Power
main creek
True
pallid ore
yeah azumarill/marowak was the main reason for the nerf
main creek
Rip how did marow get nerfed? If he did
main creek
Ok good my marowak is safe
pallid ore
210 attack base
with huge power and thick club
aqua jet stab
and very decent bulk and typing
actually, that base isnt even accurate because huge power and thick club apply to the stats you have in the end and not the base.. not sure rn
lethal dove
Okay well would Marowak be the body in this old verison case? And Azu the head?
pallid ore
yeah
lethal dove
Base power is 70. Which means I should be able to use a pokemon like Linoone to use in the calculations.
Thick Club doubles attack. Linoone with 31 iv and 0 ev has 176. So doubling it is 352. Huge Power is another double, so 704
Thank you, pokemon showdown, and calculator, for these numbers
And then we can Belly Drum from Azumarill, getting the x4
Which means 2816 attack
pallid ore
yup, totally normal att
oh huge power and thick club apply to the 176 not to the already doubled stat by the other one
pallid ore
why didnt you give it 252 ev?
lethal dove
It was automatically set like that
pallid ore
oh i see
lethal dove
239 is with 252 evs
With a helpful ATK nature 262
So 786 with Thick Club and Huge Power
Then belly drum
3144
Using the 262 that is
unique hawk
Well that's just plain silly.
wispy flax
yeah but
try and do the calculations with mewtwo + serene grace togekiss using airslash. How much damage could it do before it stops flinching on average.
not much
lethal dove
Has a 60% chance of flinching every turn, yes? And you want the Togekiss to be the head to get the ability?
unique hawk
Also, at that point, even if the Mewtwo wins, you're comparing a mythical pokemon and a level-3 rare evolution to... a baby and a Cubone. XD
pallid ore
it says abomasnow, but i altered the stats to togekiss/mewtwo
wispy flax
cool I guess?
pallid ore
no evs in def and hp because you wouldnt play it like that i assume
lethal dove
I can calculate with the Togekiss head easier so I'm doing that, and assuming you get the ability that way. I'll give it Life Orb for extra damage.
I'll calculate the damage with the highest possible Sp. def on a Shuckle with Assault Vest for the Togekiss/Mewtwo
wispy flax
I was just making a joke, but I can see how it can be taken seriously.
lethal dove
It may be a joke but I like doing this
pallid ore
same, i just knew it was broken, but didnt expect that
unique hawk
I like a powerful pokemon as much as anyone else, but that just kinda seems like an issue. XD
wispy flax
Though in the latest game would porygon z z-conversion + adaptability ability stab be better then running a theoretical azumaril-marowak fusion with the same mechanics as pokemon infinite fusion.
You sure thats the max on shuckle too? It gets shell smash + Contrary.
lethal dove
Aqua Jet has Priotity
Also it does but I'm not doing move boosts on this one. I can if you want though
It would just be a x4 to that sp. Def
wispy flax
Though I mean setup for the marowak azumarill.
lethal dove
Oh
wispy flax
and type coverages and stuff
move pools
I mean i'm taking your word for it when you say you like to do this type of stuff haha.
lethal dove
Well Aqua Jet would be super effective, with 614×4 def against a Shuckle
wispy flax
I dont just mean shuckle
lethal dove
(i was doing the damage for the togekiss mewtwo air slash not the Azu thing)
wispy flax
I mean the entirety of the smogon metagame
lethal dove
I can't really find a better def stat pokemon with good hp. Unless you wanted to use Mega Steelix?
wispy flax
I MEAN THE ENTIRE META GAME
lethal dove
Actually that is just better because it's the safe def but more hp
wispy flax
like
would a focus sash set pokemon do anything with some good move
What counters
Would it be ou or ubers
ag?
this is a test
Sorry lol
lethal dove
You would have to calculate it against the most tankiness pokemon to say if it could do anything
A focus sash might not do much. Because Azumarill/Marowak would be incredibly tanky, so the best option to kill it would be focus sash no guard OHKO move
Well not incredibly but good enough
wispy flax
Well
togekiss has a chance to counter
lucky with airslashes and focus sash
its in uu
wait no
nvm
worldly viper
did someone say togekiss?
rigid jungle
Speaking of defensive monsters, the Sp. Def. damage sponge that is Blissey/Wailord
wispy flax
I think a guarentee counter would be mega abomosnow.
just freeze dry or giga drain the thing with focus sash
I mean abomosnow sorry.
unique hawk
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how silly this fusion looks? 😄
rigid jungle
sigh sir... sir, I look rediculous
unique hawk
Scysir, the female... seems very annoyed with the horns on his head.
lethal dove
*Abomasnow actually.
It would have 384 hp and 339 defense.(31 ivs, 252 evs, +def nature)
Top ten def pokemon according to the sort in Pokemon Showdown: Steelix-Mega, Shuckle, Arggon-Mega, Stakataka, Steelix, Regirock, Avalugg, Slowbro-Mega, Cloyster, Aggron
It might be better to do Aggron or Avalugg in this case
Worst case scenario is that it isn't running Sturdy and it gets OHKO
Doing Avalugg because both higher attack and hp
394 and 467
Sorry 513 forgot nature
Assuming it's turn 1 with no Belly drum or any stats Azu/Mar would have 786
Aqua Jet has 40 base power
And Bulbapedia gives me the equation so I can do this
Let's assume everyone is level 100 too
So the first part gives us a total of 53.48
The second part is 1.275. math is shown here.
This means Azu/Mar can do 68.2 damage to a fully defensive Avalugg, assuming that random is 0.85, and Avalugg would be at 326 out of 394hp
I don't know why it went sideways on the one image but, uh, it did
So now I will do it with the x4 in attack from Belly Drum, which is 3144, and a x2(because turn two Avalugg can only put up one barrier) in def, which is 1026
So the damage this time is 131.3 when you belly drum with a single barrier up, so that makes Avalugg at 263hp.
I know the paper says 50 but I swear I did 40
Off topic:
unique hawk
Oh shit man, that Team Rocket tower boss fusion... (Spoiler) ||Zapmolcuno||. o.O
I was just strolling through this place, and then thaaaaaaaaat.
unique hawk
Err... sorry, guess I should have spoiler tagged that, my bad. 😦
Figured we're all experts here based on the current convo.
lethal dove
I just watched a guy do a playthrough for 1 or 2 eps then I was like "I wanna play this game"
This is my second day actually playing Fusion
Don't let me fool you I haven't beaten the game :)
unique hawk
I am sorry, I have fixed my mistake, but the damage is done.
...becomes pretty obvious anyways, but still... my bad.
lethal dove
Meh. I don't usually mind spoilers
Rant to me on an entire show don't mind at all
Anyway
unique hawk
I suppose I'm lucky then? 😄
lethal dove
Here is Omacko, the Omanyte/Treecko. Nicknamed her Macko for now, may change later. She is Naive, has Shell Armor, and currently has Pound, Withdraw, Absorb, and Bite, but hopefully she'll get better moves. Probably will. Very easy to top off Pound at least.
I was thinking Scald or Hydro Pump, then Giga Drain, then a rock move(Ancient Power if possible), not sure whar the last move should be though. Shell Smash, if I can.
unique hawk
Ancient power is definitely possible on that pokemon.
lethal dove
Ancient Power will be fun then. Can't think of a better spatk rock move. There isn't a lot.
unique hawk
Nah, it's about the best you get in special...
lethal dove
Power Gem and Diamond Storm are the only other two I think, and I don't believe I can get any better.
Maybe if atk is close to spatk, I can get a higher base power physical rock move
unique hawk
Ah yeah, Power Gem is in this, but not on anything you'd want to fuse there.
lethal dove
Black/White is gen 5 right
unique hawk
Ice Beam seems good.
lethal dove
Omanyte can have Hydro Pump and Ancient power as the best attacks, unless I wanted to try to use Rock Slide(tm only)
Omastar can get Stone Edge if I do tm, so that exists too.
Earth Power can be tutored onto it, but not sure if a tutor gives that up.
Why Ice beam? Just asking.
unique hawk
Weak to fliers.
lethal dove
It has rock moves, no need
lethal dove
Bug, flying, poison are the weaknesses. So, rock moves cover two of those. Giga Drain is the best grass stab I can think of, and Hydro Pump and Scald is the best water stab I can think of
Pokemon get both movesets from fused pokemon, I thought?
So Omanyte gives rock moves, like Ancient power
Oh, Energy ball could work if Sceptile gets it. Could try Petal Dance (if possible) or Leaf Storm. Lemme check if I can get any of them. I know I can get Leaf Storm and Giga Drain
Energy Ball, if a tm. Giga drain if I can possibly get it from a tutor
loud parrot
dude, the only bad thing about this is the fact that sceptile barely gets any special attacks
it's mostly coming from the Omastar
lethal dove
Actuallt wait Treecko gets Giga drain could just do that.
I know. Just trying to get a grass stab though. Because water/grass. Unless I should try to not get a grass type move and use something else?
loud parrot
no, it's always good to have both stab moves
if you have a water/grass type, you gotta have a water/grass move on it since they'll hit the hardest from it
lethal dove
Treecko gives both Giga Drain and Energy Ball. The difference is 5 base power, one heals, other can possibly lower sp.def
So Giga Drain, Hydro Pump/Scald, Ancient Power, Shell Smash
loud parrot
ancient power/ice beam, since both take out flying types, you don't get stab from it anyways so it's just their, power differences too
lethal dove
Ancient Power, however, also deals with the bug type weakness.
loud parrot
yeah but it has lower power and lower power points
lethal dove
Fair
loud parrot
plus rock is better physical
lethal dove
I'd have to find the Ice Beam tm to do Ice Beam, but I also have to do the tm for Scald, and currently have neither of them. I randomized tms so it's a chance I might not find either of them.
loud parrot
dude, you'd replace it with surf anyways
it's just better to just hit hard during playthroughs
wispy flax
so
lethal dove
I'd hate to have to do a double battle and having to use surf though. Single it's okay
But then again
Have to use outside of battle at some point
unique hawk
Hahahaha... Porygar is ridiculous...
lethal dove
We thought Blissey/Dusknoir was op, but what about Blissey/Shedninja with wonder guard
Softboiled, Shadow Sneak, maybe Return, it's a Normal/Ghost
loud parrot
maybe use will'o or toxic, to insult them more
lethal dove
I would put Toxic or Will'o on it
In fact why not both
loud parrot
kinda pointless to have both
lethal dove
For those pokemon immune to either
I'm being sarcastic don't take it seriously
Confuse Ray Thunderwave Minimize Shadow Sneak or some other damage move or Sub
Or Rock Slide for flinch
cerulean stream
Anyone know a good dragon type fusion?
loud parrot
anything with dragonite in it
cerulean stream
Are there any particular ones tho cause I’ve been messing around with it and can’t really find one that fits well
Maybe a fairy/ dragon it’s fusion?
I can’t find one that works
loud parrot
well the last dragonite fusions I remember using were aerodactyl body, dusknoir head, and the latest swampert head
turns out dragonite fusions can be really bulky
cerulean stream
Okay I’ll look at some of them
Also what would be a good mon to fuse with my venusaur
loud parrot
probably your dragonite
never in my entire life did I notice that venusaur and dragonite have the same speed and special stats
cerulean stream
Is there a custom sprite for electrivire/ magmortar fusion?
haughty jay
@cerulean stream i done this fusion
cerulean stream
Does it have a custom sprite?
remote wing
loud parrot
now if triple fusions were a thing, I would throw in metagross just to see what would happen
or maybe machamp instead
dry tree
is it just me or poliwrath politoed fusion shouldve been an actual pokemon
the custom sprite ofc
unique hawk
My answer would be breeding? 😄 Probably a better way.
unique hawk
I just made myself a Pidgeode, the name amuses me. 😄
worldly viper
hidden bison
Oh a bad fusion
hybrid cave
bruh
this is one of the best pokemons u could have
this pokemons alows u to dig for free
FREE GOLD
@hidden bison
hidden bison
A ping for a joke eh
hybrid cave
why not :v
hidden bison
That mon will fit right in my retard run
hybrid cave
well
its not the worst of the worst
sure the stats are very bad but
i think there are more like such stats with worse elements
so its not fully a retard pokemon
and ice pokemon aint most wanted
so not realy to wory bout that too
hybrid cave
even at the worst stats ,its not the worst pokemon, u just mainly need to avoid fighting type only
91 special def
on the worst case
with such hp
well true enough bout def
like u gotta avoid all of the phys att
but when ur sure enemy only has special move set
not a bad pick
@hidden bison
despite good stats, theres many counters in elements making stats look like not worth it
hidden bison
Cant talk anymore
paper linden
rip uni
hidden bison
My break is over
wanton ore
i'm searching a good pokemon to fuse with my haunter, any ideas ?
worn bison
anything lol
pallid ore
thats a nice troll set lol
unique hawk
Porygon! (Seriously, he's demolishing everything since the Tower)
hidden bison
Or giga drain instead of leech seed
unique hawk
Recover and curse on a ghost, stab Tei attack and shadow punch eventually.
unique hawk
Err.. ball.
Not sure why I said punch.
Point is: can have levitate, weak to just dark, immune to fighting, normal, and ghost. No psychic weakness.
Not sure if pory body would be better, but maybe.
unique hawk
Levitate is kinda nice but not really key to him.
unique hawk
Yeah, I'm not quite post game yet, so there may be better options, but that thing demolished Koga, the dojo, Sabrina, and some of the fire gym, laughs at explosions, and works pretty well against preeeeetty much everything except the odd Normal guy with dark attack.
Might struggle with stallers too maybe if you cant curse them?
Also just realized he'll get Signal Beam eventually, lol...
frigid minnow
What in the actual
unique hawk
Ano hana? :)
pallid ore
i would say aku no hana 
pallid ore
you need a link?
unique hawk
It's in the FAQ, but my phone seems to struggle with documents for some reason.
Probably need an update.
lethal dove
There's probably a better flying type but not bad
loud parrot
all electrode has speed, you're better off with literally any other electric type
lethal dove
:(
unique hawk
I'm using that right now, but yeah, I don't think it's going to last.
polar field
Thinking about fusing legendary birds and dogs together to make gryphons. Tell me what you guys think about these fusions.
languid creek
I’m new to the game so idk what to fuse
polar field
robust crater
fuse geodude/nidoran M
languid creek
Moltres could be better
robust crater
they're very strong once you get to golem/nidoking
languid creek
I’m at pewter so I can’t get a geo yet
robust crater
also there's a sick sprite for it
languid creek
Idk how to use custom sprites
robust crater
it's pretty simple
there's an option to turn them on in the settings menu
if you go to the game files, there's a folder called CustomBattlers
that's where all of the community sprites go
and there's a bunch of sprite packs to download as well
languid creek
Can ya help me through it?
distant dagger
Just drag and drop
robust crater
oh that's simple
just download them all, then copy all of the sprites into the custom battler folder
robust crater
and getting off of the game doesn't really make an impact though
distant dagger
Yeah you can keep the game open
robust crater
oh yea, I forgot there was more folders
I just have my custombattlers folder pinned for easy access
languid creek
There’s already a bunch of stuff in the folder how will Ik if the custom sprite is being used?
I’m guessing not all the sprites are in this folder
robust crater
yea that's where you've gotta download the sprite packs
languid creek
There’s a custombattlers copy folder?
leaden stone
dont think that folder's used for anything, and hi people
anyone know if theres a way to add in custom icons?
robust crater
there is yea
in the link I sent, there's a custom icon pack
all you've gotta do is put the icons in that pack into the icons folder
leaden stone
is there like a certain format for them, i wanted to make icons for my team
and i think the formula for dex number listed there is wrong
robust crater
well that's something that I don't really know anything about
I'd assume that you'd get an idea of how to make them from the preview files in the folder
but you'll have to ask someone like uni or dino about that
leaden stone
i have a few made already, i just have no idea if i did it right cause it didnt seem to work when put in the folders =/
robust crater
well that looks good
maybe there's something off about the pixel size or something, idk
I'm not the best person to ask about icons
languid creek
@robust crater there is so many file folders for custom sprites how do I take everything in them into one so I can put them all in custombattlers @.@
robust crater
pretty easy
click on the very first one, hold shift, and then press the end key
it'll highlight them all and you can cut all of them and put them in the folder
languid creek
Holding shift isn’t doing anything
robust crater
well it should
what point are you at?
have you downloaded all of the sprite packs?
languid creek
Hold on trying something right now
unique hawk
I think I'd do Molcune, Zaptei, and Artikou instead, but love the idea. 😄
languid creek
@robust crater so Cutted them like this now what since they are now cut?
silk orchid
My Togekiss/Meganium Fusion
languid creek
Oh I like that
robust crater
no no not the custom sprites folder
the custom battlers folder
languid creek
No I just highlighted and clicked cut this are the custom sprites I’m trying to get
So after clicking cut now what
robust crater
you downloaded the wrong things
there are sprite packs, but you downloaded the older versions
wispy flax
That's awesome!
robust crater
I can't help any more today cuz I've gotta do some things
distant dagger
I have a couple of icons but I never post em because they're just a waste of space unless you're actually using the Pokémon
robust crater
I disagree, that's like saying that sprites are useless unless you've got the pokemon
also icons are always cool to see
distant dagger
Well sprites of pokemon can be seen if an opponent uses them
Icons are only seen if you've got the pokemon yourself
languid creek
Uh btw u didn’t say what poke to use as the body for nid m and geo