dex-entries-discussion

[willow venture]

I think reposting all my pre-rejected 50+ dex entries would be bad form yes

I'd imagine I'd like to post all of them here in succession and that would be too many to review for people here lol

[pale venture]

• 'Ultra Space' is a realm on its own, so "an" is not needed
• Comma needed at "Said to have originated from Ultra Space, where..."
• I'm not sure if this conflicts with necrozma's lore book rulings (mainly the ones I'm going to post with this reply mentioning dimensions)
• "POKENAME obsessily collects" and "it" are both different plural tense, as POKENAME implies the species but "it" implies a specific mon in that species
• I'm not sure if both "shiny" and "precious" need to be used to describe the stones, I could be wrong but it might be touching on the "No filler words" in the Writing Tips portion in the pins tab
• "It hoards where it wishes, and none dare resist" is a little wonky imo, but that once again might just be me. This line kind of feels like you're saying it's the only one, rather than "A POKENAME hoards where it wishes", or something like that. But once again that might just be a conflict of writing style, and it would be better if an Unown with more experience looked at the writing style portion

Hope this helps

Just to make sure, I'd get an Unown or someone to check when they have some time, they'd probably wanna make sure things are fine anyway

[thorn ingot]

You can’t say it originated from somewhere as that gives origins which is against FAQ

If the player fuses a Sableye and Necrozma, it wouldn’t have originated from that place

[willow venture]

These are all definitely fair

[pale venture]

Normally I'd agree, but it does say in the FAQ Lore Book that it does originate from a place, which is weird as it's very contradictory

I think you're correct, I just think the lore book might be a bit old

[willow venture]

It's just a bit too silly because I feel like a fusion can also be something that exists naturally somewhere else besides being a fusion result

[thorn ingot]

They definitely can

But what you said was too specific

[willow venture]

We could put clarifiers of "it is said", "myths say", "ancient stories tell", etc

And apparently it's a-okay

It's fine it is what it is

[pale venture]

Ye, because that's more in line with the official games

[willow venture]

Lots of us writers who are writing don't have the privilege yet of just submitting entries without much review needed lol

[thorn ingot]

I think it’s more saying that’s where we originally found them from and not directly “this is where every single one of them comes from” so to say

[pale venture]

Ah, that makes more sense, sorry it's 3am

[willow venture]

Also it eventually comes to a head imo where any fusion entries cannot have a dex entry that doesn't mention it being a fusion

[thorn ingot]

Nah it’s ok it’s a good question to ask

[willow venture]

But that feels like it should be obviously not how it is

Yes some of them came from a silly guy deciding Sableye and Necrozma can be together

[pale venture]

I don't think I've ever mentioned a Fused Pokemon was a fusion, as I believe they want you to write it as if it's a unique species overall

[willow venture]

But does it have to say everyone of them came about that way

[willow venture]

Oh for sure all my entries almost never say it came from a fusion

[thorn ingot]

The times where I said the fusion was a fusion is very little

[willow venture]

I feel like for some entries it seems like even having the "it is said" clarifier or anything of the nature is not enough

[pale venture]

It depends on the context that follows it, really

[willow venture]

How about Charrogue

It's definitely the "it doesn't know defeat" part so that one's easier but is that it

[pale venture]

Lemme have a look

[willow venture]

Could just rewrite it to "they never knew defeat"

[thorn ingot]

You could say it “likes to live in deep, dark places where it collects [rest of entry]” or something along the lines of that

[willow venture]

They don't want things to be vague/open to interpretation is what I'm getting at here

[thorn ingot]

Makes it less specific

[willow venture]

But that's a species thing where it's just a very highly skilled species of fighters

Or is that still too much

[pale venture]

• "... on POKENAME's tail burns brighter the more it spars.." This goes from "They" to "it" tense, you'd need to say "a POKENAME's tail" or "or their trainer"
• "It doesn't know defeat" is a little vague, they'd probably wanna expand info on that too

[thorn ingot]

The “none dare resist” is a different issue as well. Dare resist what? Hoarding? Or something else?

[willow venture]

Hm

So what I'm getting at here is that they don't want entries to be vague/open to interpretation

[pale venture]

Vagueness is fine, but if something is lacking detail then vagueness can just become confusion

[thorn ingot]

Being too vague yeah. Some is fine but if being too vague loses the meaning of what it’s talking about then it’s not

[pale venture]

It's a weird balance

[willow venture]

I would like to think "none dare resist" in the entry easily implies that nothing dares to go against this mon's greedy collecting behavior but hey

[pale venture]

That's not really vague, that's very direct

[willow venture]

And it hoards wherever it (they) want so it's a very much determined greed seeker so in the inference is easier there

[willow venture]

Yes that's what I'm getting at

There's no vagueness there because the wording leads up to it being "Sablzma hoards wherever it wants and nothing dares to resist it's greedy behavior" or smth to that effect at

[thorn ingot]

I did not get that meaning from reading the entry at all because there was nothing to suggest it meant that nothing dared to go against it and the entry was still talking about this Pokémon up until that point so it just seems logical to me it was still talking about POKENAME

[willow venture]

I see

This really just means I need to put more POKENAME in entries lol

[pale venture]

Identifiers help a lot

[thorn ingot]

You don’t have to you just need to clarify the subject, especially when you change it mid or between sentences.

Like using pronouns is fine

As long as the noun was mentioned beforehand

[willow venture]

Well with how that entry is written (and in a way maybe all of my pre rejected entries) it seems like the vagueness or using a lot of "it" that implies a singular pokemon in its species behavior or lack of identifiers makes it clear that's where the problem lies

I'll even post a few entries that I'm pretty sure doesn't have problems specifically but because I'm denied from submitting further entries they're sort of lumped in together

[pale venture]

"It" is fine as long as you still talk about the Pokémon as a species

[willow venture]

POKENAME's wings are sharp enough to slash through crags and cliffs. Living among the highest mountain peaks, it chirps proudly alongside others of its kind, sounding very similar to a war anthem.```

[pale venture]

``A POKENAME can often be seen rummaging through garbage behind Poke Marts when produce gets mouldy. On hot days, it will use their tentacles as.." This Pokémon doesn't exist, but it's an example

[willow venture]

The spores it scatters through the open cross are known to accelerate rusting in Steel-type Pokémon. It is uncertain if its unmatched intellect belongs to its whole self, or comes solely from the mushroom.```

Now that I think about it I'm wondering about this

[pale venture]

Iirc fusions can't be talked about as separate entities, idk if saying it comes solely from the mushroom is ok, but I'm not 100% on it

[willow venture]

What happened to all my pre rejected entries are they gonna stay rejected

Or are they re reviewed once I wrote new entries and send them here

Cuz that's really the actual annoying part of this whole system

[willow venture]

Is this not literally what Parasect is

[pale venture]

Your previous ones stay rejected, you just gotta write em again

[pale venture]

As a singular Pokémon, fusion is different

[willow venture]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-season-3-higuruma-hiromi-higuruma-jjk-gif-5830989494231778617

[willow venture]

But what's to say a fusion also doesn't have that same conceit just on a different level

[pale venture]

The lore book says that

It's in the pins

[willow venture]

I know that but like

Does it mean a fusion cannot in turn create a new system entirely as it's fused together

Lemme post what I wrote on it's old preevos (relative to the mon)

[pale venture]

It has to be a singular entity, I'd suggest reading it

[willow venture]

Oh hold on sorry I misunderstood the whole thing lmao

When you say singular you really mean singular

So sorry

So I can't have an entry saying this singular entity is actually comprised of two different living creatures

That happens to live together in a singular body

I see I see

[pale venture]

Yee, like exeggcute is one entity

Weirdly

[willow venture]

The mushroom on this creature's back guides which Steel-type Pokémon it will latch onto. After piercing through and absorbing enough life force, it will seek another host.```

So this would be wrong to write then is what you mean (according to the lorebook)?

Also how about the Talonflame/Kabutops one

[pale venture]

Yee it kinda implies that the mushroom and the mon are not actually fused as one entity

[willow venture]

I think like how Parasect would say it it would imply that the mon itself is the mushroom and the creature down there is purely a body it uses but that's okay then

[pale venture]

Also the only one I saw on the kabutops one is that you need an "A POKENAME's wings" and possibly removing "very" but the very isn't really that important

[willow venture]

It's an emphasis yeah

With twice the brains and half the size, POKENAME's magnetic and physical strength is amplified. Whenever it stays inert, the mushrooms on its back start undulating and contracting, as if they were a separate living creature.```

[pale venture]

I think the body being part of it has to be part of the Mon itself, as that's the metagross you fuse with parasect to get that in the first place

[willow venture]

If I remove the last sentence would this be in the clear

[pale venture]

The last bit is definitely gonna be in the grey area,

But also the "With twice the brains and half the size", there's no comparison at all. With twice the brains and half the size of what exactly?

[willow venture]

The white mushrooms on its back are called muchomor. The more POKENAME that gather together, the faster they move and act.```

With this guy

Lmao

But if it needs clarifier I can just say "With twice the brains and half the size of the average Metang" or smth

[pale venture]

Dex entries need to make sense on their own, very important. Without the knowledge of this guy, it does not really make sense

[willow venture]

Mmmmmmm okay

[pale venture]

Yee

[willow venture]

If I submitted entries now would I still get the magenta username or am I in the clear now I'd like to know

[jagged ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-arise-dog-pooch-car-window-gif-19510325

[willow venture]

I've a lot of entries that needs rewriting clearly lol

[jagged ledge]

No worries, that's why I'm tuning in now lol. Here to help, it's all good. 👍

[pale venture]

I'd recommend having an Unown check out some rejected ones before submitting more, we've all had to do it

Anyway it's 4am I gotta get up soon so ima take a nap, seeya

Oh hey an Unown

[willow venture]

Are you up to check at least 50+ rejected entries here

I have so many pre rejected ones and if I am to clear to spam them to be reviewed I am going to 100%

[pale venture]

I wouldn't speedrun them, 50+ is gonna take days

[willow venture]

And in the meantime I can't submit anything right

Because I would still be magenta'd

[pale venture]

I wouldn't recommend it

[willow venture]

https://tenor.com/view/aw-man-hell-no-gif-24268044

[pale venture]

Anyway goodnight/morning/evening/luck!

[jagged ledge]

Ok so first off, this doesn't fit Dex Tone. A D&D lore book, sure. But not the Pokedex. You don't really talk about Pokémon dying and choking and "dancing, dancing" isn't really formal grammar.

I saw before you were challenging yourself to make edgy entries for the sake of edginess, but the issue is that not every edgy entry works, they still need to follow game lore and tone and not cross a certain threshold of gruesomeness or cruelty. No Pokémon should be 100% truly irredeemably evil by Pokedex lore.

[jagged ledge]

Well, the more you submit without reviewing, the more you'll have to review and the longer it'll take to help communicate why they're under review in the first place.

So in other words, it's basically for the good of all involved that you wait to talk things out so rather than just speed running numbers, we can work together to get you back on track for an easier time going forward

[willow venture]

Well I'd like to get to it now

Out of curiosity do all the Unown/dex managers have their own internal chat where they post their own entries for review to others

[jagged ledge]

Yes, everyone is under the same reviews and rules.

[willow venture]

But for you guys it's on a different chat outside of here yes

[jagged ledge]

We even have a rule that we can't approve our own entries.

[jagged ledge]

Usually, yes. Sometimes if we have examples or prompts, we post our entries here.

[willow venture]

I see I see

[jagged ledge]

Why do you ask?

[willow venture]

Just wondering lol

I'm sure you guys have to follow the same procedures too but I know certainly most of you guys don't really post a lot of the entries you make here

I imagine so the chat doesn't get inundated with just the top 10 writers bouncing their entries for reviews and choking off all the other writers

[jagged ledge]

Well also I'm usually busy irl, so most of my dex writing goes into the Dexdoku event. I have examples that I screen with the other Unown for every round of the event though.

Like this one

[willow venture]

I've also just been really busy tbh and I only got back into writing now so I get it

Certainly was a total bummer reading "hey you're barred from making further entries sorry" in the chat

[jagged ledge]

No worries, that's why we have people to help.

[willow venture]

I was really in the zone but I also get why

Okay how about the other two below Darketta

[jagged ledge]

Similar issue of Dex Tone and excessive edge. "From nightmares to POKENAME and POKENAME to darkness" for example. Again, cool in D&D. Not quite a Pokedex tone though. You could say something like "A group of researchers that witnessed a POKENAME's true strength were only able to report a hazy darkness surrounding their nightmares." For example. You can still have similar content, you just need to format it correctly and not dwell on the visceral aspects.

I agree with the comment of Ultra Space being the overall term, not just a specific dimension, but also you're not really supposed to invent new locations, even within a myth. What do you mean by "where everyone lives in a world's core?" Is it like the Ultra Jungle or Ultra Megalopolis, but inside another planet? And who would be resisting it? Why don't they dare resist?

[willow venture]

Ooooooh I can mention canon Ultra Spaces is what you're saying?

No that's good that shortens things overall

[jagged ledge]

I actually think this one should be good to go? I think? One thing that gives me pause is War Anthem, but Lt. Surge was literally a soldier, so idk.

[willow venture]

I'll repost the rest of the ones related to this in a bit

[jagged ledge]

What do you mean "related to"?

[willow venture]

You'll get it

[jagged ledge]

Well see that might be part of the issue as well. Entries should be standalone to understand them independently. While it's good to build concepts and naturally adapt, you shouldn't revolve the subject of one entry off of something learned from another entry.

[willow venture]

Having existed since the prehistoric ages, POKENAME lives along the shores, flying low. A very friendly Pokémon that enjoys skittering across the beach with surprisingly tuneful steps.```

```Fletchinder/Kabuto
It tucks its wings beneath its shell until it sees a veritable smorgasbord of prey along the shores. POKENAME's cries and wing flapping are said to be reminiscent of an ancient empire's anthem.```

```Talonflame/Kabuto
POKENAME can move faster than a bullet, to the point that its prey doesn't even notice it swooping in for them. The more melodious its chirps, the hungrier it is.```

I don't think any of these are removed off of anything no but you tell me what your thoughts are

[jagged ledge]

"Flying low *to the ground." You can remove "A very friendly Pokémon that enjoys skittering" because traveling doesn't really involve being friendly and it makes the entry sound too singular. Maybe instead say "Joyful by nature, they enjoy skittering"

So it'll only swoop if it can confirm there's a variety of prey? Or wait, it'll only fly when it confirms a variety of prey? Also start the entry with POKENAME instead of It. Otherwise, the pronoun "It" will have no primary subject to refer back to. I mildly question where the ancient empire aspect is coming from aside from being a fossil Pokémon, but I would be more concerned with the first part first.

I genuinely don't know if bullets are included in the lore. I just kinda assumed they weren't.

[willow venture]

I would like to think just mentioning bullets itself isn't necessarily a problem or what have you but yknow

It only swoops if it confirms the former yeah

Yeah seems like another case of "gotta put POKENAME more to remove all doubt" kinda problem lol

[jagged ledge]

Well if they're not in lore or consistent with the world... also slippery slope, setting a precedent, don't want Pokémon with guns, etc.

But if its wings are tucked, how does it fly to then swoop down?

[jagged ledge]

I mean that is how Grammar works, yes.

[willow venture]

It just does? Or is there a biological thing here I gotta learn lol

I mean it of course spreads it wings to fly and untuck the wings but surely that doesn't need to be clarified I imagine they do it like that

I counted back on the entries I'm rejected on and there's only 20 so nvm the 50+ thing I think rereviewing these will be a cinch

[jagged ledge]

But the sprite shows it flying with its wings out, so that contradicts it only extending its wings and swooping under certain conditions.

[willow venture]

Hm

[jagged ledge]

You entry states that it keeps the wings tucked until it swoops, implying that swooping is the only time its wings are out.

[willow venture]

So if a mon sprite has its wings out I can't write something that says it tucks its wings in it's body/shell/what have you

Like it flies yes but in specific condition and that sprite shows it flying in that exact moment it is in its specific condition

[jagged ledge]

You can say it can tuck them, not that it always has them tucked.

[willow venture]

Ah got it

[jagged ledge]

Because if you bring it with you on your journey, it is not constantly swooping on prey. Yes, there can be conditions or situations that correlate to the sprite's imagery, but you need to think of the big picture of incorporating your information into the overall game's lore, especially how that sprite will be perceived and communicated.

[willow venture]

I think those fixes should work later I'll be rewriting them in my notepad

There's the Sableye/Necrozma I already posted but there's also Sableye/Ultra Necrozma I wrote

Every part of POKENAME's body is made up of the shiniest, most precious metals both known and unknown to mankind, though it is said to be drawn most to crystals from Alola. Take care not to be tempted to wander into POKENAME's light.

[jagged ledge]

"It doesn't know defeat." Is a very simple and aimless sentence. Also, what happens if it loses a battle?

[jagged ledge]

"Most precious and shiniest metals". Debating if the "both known and unknown" part would be allowed, because that basically means you're inventing a new element. Also, neither Sableye nor Necrozma are made of metal. I figure you're probably relating back to the chest, but the entry describes the rest of the Pokémon.

Also what light? But mainly, as a general rule of thumb, we try to recommend avoiding using second person in your entries.

[jagged ledge]

Remember the subject. POKENAME. "Through the open cross"? Oh is that saying that the X on Metagross' face is like the style of cutting mushroom caps? Well how would it be "open"? And surely there's a better way to phrase it. First off, grammar lesson: "or if it comes solely from the mushroom". But more importantly, here's the Parasect rules.

[willow venture]

It's kept vague but I can go with "since they're very new in battling, they haven't learned the sting of defeat yet" maybe?

[jagged ledge]

🤔 well... better. Grammatically, it would be "Their lack of battle experience means they have yet to learn the sting of defeat.", but then also that implies that they're going to lose and doesn't say much about them specifically?

[willow venture]

Maybe if it says "most precious and shiniest gemstones" since Sableye has gemstone eyes? Light is based on Necrozma/Ultra Necrozma which I assume is still inherent from Necrozma itself, the wings are very shiny too so it sorta transfers from there is my logic

[willow venture]

The first sentences says a good amount about them idk

I wanna stick to that specifically to make a point of them being a greenhorn battle Mon but I get why it's awkward inherently in construction

[jagged ledge]

Yeah, gemstones works. As does the production of light. But you do need to rephrase to not be in second person.

[willow venture]

Second person being the second sentence you mean right

[jagged ledge]

"They lack true battle experience, so they often wildly swing their fists and tails to try and repel foes with no real target?"

[jagged ledge]

Yup

[willow venture]

Hmmmm

[willow venture]

That's too specific tho it sorta lacks that curiousity feel to why it is how it is but that's just me

[jagged ledge]

First Person: I went to the store.

Second Person: You went to the store.

Third Person: He/She/They went to the store.

[willow venture]

Plus it's far off from the base idea unless I suppose you're saying that base idea itself should be abandoned

[willow venture]

I have no idea of the construction of how I'd think it but to me the cross on Metagross/Parasect opens up like it's one of those garages that goes down inside it's body and from that open space those spores are released

Does that make sense

[jagged ledge]

Sorry, you're right. I was more focused on making the second sentence work than connecting it to the first sentence. How about "Their lack of battle experience causes them to approach each new battle fresh, making up strategies and adapting as they go."

[willow venture]

I can work with that (maybe take off the second part of it it's a bit too wordy imo)

(funny shit considering it came from me maybe the wordiest dex writer around lmao)

[jagged ledge]

Nah, I lean on the wordier side too, it's ok lol

[willow venture]

Also I understand and will have to do total rewrites on the dex entry to not mention this fusion's mushroom self to be a fully realized entity but to be clear

[jagged ledge]

Hmm. 🤔 That's... a lot to assume from a sprite. I guess you could say "POKENAME open the cross on their heads to disperse spores that (etc.)"

[willow venture]

A lot of dex entries do that in general I feel but I understand why it's weird since it's asking for a lot lol

[jagged ledge]

Yeah, which is why I'm not saying that you can't lol

Just thinking of how best to phrase/communicate that

[willow venture]

So the mon itself has to be a full entity by itself and it can't be two dual consciousness like the mushroom and mon is one creature but with two separate consciousness since they're living on a single body together?

[jagged ledge]

Well, it can't say that it's unfused. Like if a Psyduck is wearing a Parasect mushroom as a hat, you can't say "This Psyduck's been possessed by a Parasect" cuz then it's not fusion.

[jagged ledge]

I think you phrased that correctly?

Think like Girafarig

[willow venture]

Oh okay hold on lemme try rewriting it

[jagged ledge]

Alright. Fair warning, it's getting pretty late for me.

[rancid geyser]

How late is late

[willow venture]

The mushroom on POKENAME's back guide which Steel-type Pokémon they will latch onto to absorb its life force through their talons. Magnezone is their favorite for their richness in magnetism and its smarts.

I think this way it doesn't imply that the mushroom is the mon and they both are working together?

The Pokemon name is like some base Steel Mon like idk Magnezone or Bronzong for example

[jagged ledge]

What happened to the spore part? And why say "this creature" and not POKENAME? Absorb its life force how? What makes them the favorite and you should at least figure out which Pokémon it is before making that a key detail.

[willow venture]

I did just fix them while you write that lol

Wait what spore

That's for Metagross/Parasect this is Metang/Parasect

[jagged ledge]

🤦

One second, let me reread the original then.

[willow venture]

I can add how it absorbs life force tho hold on

I'll rewrite the Metagross/Parasect one as well to avoid confusion from your end

Oh okay I won't then

[jagged ledge]

Ok. So. The mushroom guides POKENAME to latch onto other Pokémon... I think it should be ok if you slap an s on guide. But full disclosure? If it's over 100 characters already, you don't need a second sentence. We just try to recommend two sentences so that people put in more effort and description.

[willow venture]

But I want that second sentence for the fun of it (I got you tho)

[jagged ledge]

Sorry, I was just in the middle of typing a conversation point for one review, and I didn't want you losing track of the original points I had for the other fusion in favor of just making it more different for the sake of being different. I am only one person and I'm trying to sort this as best I can.

[willow venture]

I gotchu sorry for the stress too

[jagged ledge]

All good, that's why we communicate. 👍

[willow venture]

Okay now to rewrite Metagross/Parasect just a bit

[jagged ledge]

Well you can include a second sentence, but you at least need to determine which Pokémon is the favorite and why.

[willow venture]

POKENAME open the cross on their heads to disperse spores that accelerate rusting on Steel-type Pokémon. It is unclear if their advanced intellect comes from their whole self or just the mushroom.

[willow venture]

I'll use uhhhhh Magnezone as the example then

[willow venture]

Reedited this one to include Magnezone

[jagged ledge]

Ah, instead of "unmatched", say "advanced" or "accelerated" or something similar. Over 250,000 fusions before Hoenn mons and those include Alakazam and other Metagross. It'll be matched and potentially surpassed. Also we genuinely recommend avoiding making anything out to be "the best" because otherwise everyone would do it and we have a Syndrome situation

https://tenor.com/view/the-incredibles-syndrome-ang-when-everyones-super-no-one-will-be-super-heroes-gif-5389961

[willow venture]

That works

[willow venture]

There are still these two (Metang/Paras and Beldum/Paras) but I don't know if it needs any big fixes other than Metras needing to say With twice the brains and half the size of a regular Metang (etc) or smth

[jagged ledge]

Maybe "Magnezone is their favorite due to the electrical energy flowing through the metal." Or something like that?

[jagged ledge]

Well we recommend trying to avoid relying on comparisons or references to the original species. Also how does fusing with Paras make a Metang smarter?

[willow venture]

The shrooms

How do I write it being a small nimble smarter creature hm

[jagged ledge]

That's a good question I trust you to answer or at least figure out a compromise for tomorrow. For now, I sleep. Have a great night, thanks for your cooperation.

[willow venture]

Smaller than a regular Metang, the mushroom on its back gives it a more advanced intellect than a standard Metang. Whenever it stays inert, the mushrooms on its back start undulating and contracting.

[jagged ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/puppy-tired-tired-puppy-doggo-cute-puppy-gif-9446132869263243239

[willow venture]

Ah damn I just finished writing that

Alright good night man thanks for the help

[jagged ledge]

Alright, one last note while I'm here lol

[willow venture]

Btw also before you sleep how many creatures have you reviewed in totality?,

Trying to nail it down so I can get right to the rest of the ones that haven't been reviewed yet

[jagged ledge]

Again, I just mentioned to not base your entry on comparisons or connections to one half of the fusion, because otherwise, you're describing it as a variant Metang, not a Metas.

[willow venture]

Right and I remember that I can't actually mention a Pokemon Fusion by name either

That's still a rule right

[jagged ledge]

No clue. Gotta be in the hundreds from Izik alone lol.

[jagged ledge]

Well yes and no. If it's in a way that works independently of its own information and the other fusion you name does the same, no, you can technically name another fusion. If the fusion itself or in a way that acts as the primary source of lore for another entry, yes. It's not allowed to name another fusion in ways that break the logic/rules.

Ok NOW I sleep

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-cat-sleep-cat-gif-1833006167751974340

Goodnight

[willow venture]

I mean

From the ones I've given you so I can resubmit whoops

Really forgot to specify-ah well goodnight

[robust pike]

Hello. I sent three entries without saying anything here first, I hope it won't be a problem ;_; I did check all the pins and FAQs though ! (I was just shy to write here)

[storm light]

It should be fine as long as the entries are within guidelines. We post entries here to make sure they're in tip-top shape before being submitted! I understand the anxiety, but I think the only here that bites is Duck (im jk, duck is awesome lol)

[willow venture]

Don't worry as long as you write within the guidelines you will never meet that problem (I sure didn't in my first batch of writing post hiatus of writing dex entries lol)

[robust pike]

X'D alright thank you ! I'll check next here first
currently i just happened to fall on fusions while gaming, where the pokedex said "no entry", and that weren't in "approved" either, so gave it a try

[robust pike]

Yes I did read ! several times x) I should not have missed anything ^^'

[willow venture]

Don't worry about it too even if you do

That only really happens when you wrote so much entries that violate the rules that they have to put in the banhammer of you submitting until everything's reviewed from your rejected batch

Like me

[robust pike]

I see the amount of work those who have to read and approve entries have to do tho, so I prefer to not make it heavier because of avoidable mistakes

[willow venture]

I wrote 20 entries but a few violate them enough that all 20 is just rejected by default

It's extremely annoying but what are ya gonna do

[willow venture]

Don't think about it too much

[robust pike]

it's okay I'll live x)

[willow venture]

Remember that the top 10 dex writers all have their own internal chat for them to post their entries for review too most of the time so they have so much on their plate by default

I would imagine so otherwise folks like .izik and sk and infinex just had carte blanche to post entries without anybody looking into them

And that's obviously not what it is lol

[robust pike]

Lol as a french seeing 'carte blanche' pop in middle of an english sentence is quite funny

but yes, thank you !

It sounded fun and nice to help so I gave it a try :)

[storm light]

I dont think the top 10 have their own chat to post things in, but the Unowns themselves probably do

[hexed fog]

LOL we really don't

To summarize, batch denials aren't done out of malice. When a user is exhibiting an ongoing problem in regards to a rule or EXTENSIVE grammar in a batch of entries, in order to save sanity on the Unowns, we deny them all at once. I understand this is frustrating but while you may have to get 10-20 entries reviewed they are usually working through HUNDREDS. We don't do a batch denial for 1-2 to instances of an 'oops' kind of situation but after observing a genuine misunderstanding of the rules we have in place.

[willow venture]

So you guys don't have your entries reviewed before posted?

I'm frustrated with the batch denials but I understand why it's had to be done it is what it is lol

[hexed fog]

Entries are not required to be reviewed before posting

[robust pike]

"the sanity" x)
But yes it sounds perfectly logical !

[willow venture]

Oh

[hexed fog]

We only ask when people or new or having a repeated issue/misunderstanding on the FAQ

[willow venture]

I'm sure

I just need to get through these entries re-reviewed so I can go back to actually write tbh

[robust pike]

It's fair, writing doesn't always go well on the first try after all ^^

[hexed fog]

@daring totem please do not caps your username in entries

[willow venture]

I got 109 entries already

I just got sloppy is all

[robust pike]

oh wow ! past the 100th ! ^^

[pale venture]

Oddreavus #43.200
POKENAME hide in dirt, waiting to jump out at unsuspecting travellers with an unnerving shriek. POKENAME collect the fear made from their pranks and release it into their nest's soil, which helps other POKENAME grow.

Also I'm only on 57 entries, how do people write so fast

[hexed fog]

My brain just does the thing

[pale venture]

I need to spend more time on these

[hollow quartz]

My brain works off hyperfixating, for how I got to so many in the span I did

And then it stops working for me when it chooses to

[pale venture]

That's fair

I enjoy writing for them, I think I just overcheck stuff sometimes and end up missing some of the more obvious stuff because I'm trying to find small hard to find errors or something

I'll do some more Porygon2 later, I think we're on the body now?

[jagged ledge]

Hey, that is not what I said lol. Let's maybe not phrase it that way. It's a staff-only channel that we use for reviews and cross-referencing, in our entries, but mostly other people's so we can get second opinions during our reviews.

It's not "You make it in the Top 10, you unlock a bonus room", it's "staff area."

Also I'm not even in the top 10 anymore.

Gotta catch up soon.

[pale venture]

Nah I'm getting into the top 10 bonus room

Like some kinda sports anime

(there's 1000s of filler episodes)

[jagged ledge]

I mean we're always looking for more Unowns, you just gotta go through the application process and get approved lol

[pale venture]

Wait I take it back, I don't wanna

[robust pike]

I wondered if you didn't need to have a number of entries approved first before applying and yes you do x) (which is for the best !)

I wouldn't mind doing it, but I fear my french brain would miss typos

[pale venture]

Out of curiosity, how many entries do you need approved?

[robust pike]

10, says the rules !

it's in #become-a-staff-helper

[pale venture]

But ye I'm not 100% confident in things, so I'd rather be good at it before I consider an Unown role

[robust pike]

Same same

like 10 isn't even a lot, I wouldn't feel confident even after 10 approved

[thorn ingot]

lmao that would be so funny if we had one but we don’t

[hollow quartz]

yeah no, there really isn't. even in the extreme hypothetical of there being one, we'd have our progress immensely slowed nonetheless by waiting for entry reviews. we wouldn't have nearly as high numbers as we do if we waited for each entry to be reviewed; we simply know enough of how to do it that we do it, there's nothing else to it than that (and we still at least occasionally make small errors as well )

[hexed fog]

The issue isnt grammar errors unless it's to the point where it's clear no effort was given or it is completely incoherent. Our biggest issue is lore or rulebreaks

We understand people arent English Majors... and neither are we

But if you're an unown you should have a very good grasp on grammar to fix errors that crop up

[hollow quartz]

Oh yeah I was saying about the internal chat thing, not about the unown stuff

[rich goblet]

Why would there be an internal chat? What could we possibly talk about that we can’t talk about here

[hollow quartz]

Yeah, exactly

[acoustic scarab]

Which Katie is which?

(but yeah, there's no secret channel, I'm barely even active on this one)

[rich goblet]

That would be a moderator thing, but also I literally pinged all of them and I wasn’t even an unown

I’m still not an unown mainly because my schedule and energy is pretty random

[acoustic scarab]

Mood

[dusty hound]

Are you allowed to mention other fusions in dex entries? for example

''Mr Cruel and Mr cool's are often seen traveling in schools under the water..."

[storm light]

It's not frowned upon, but entries must be as standalone as possible as players may not have seen entries/sprites from previous or future evolutions

[dusty hound]

[narrow cosmos]

Oh, this new "find an un-dexed fusion" page on infinite dummies is a treasure, this'll speed up work a bit.

[storm light]

Can we actually pin that? It would be so damn helpful

[narrow cosmos]

Although due to update schedules we'll need to be careful or we'll all end up dexing the same fusions. Even with all the un-dexed ones it's not impossible we'll end up randomizing onto the same ones.

(I'm just imagining the luck of one random fusion suddenly updating with like, 6 entries from different authors all at once. )

[unkempt plinth]

This is why the page say to double check it, ah ah

I do not know a better method for do not have duplicate 🤔, but will happens, if you select a pokemon.

[narrow cosmos]

Haha, it'd be no big deal if it happens. Something that can be easily fixed later.

But having such a quick way to cycle through sprites without dexes is really cool, thanks for this!

[unkempt plinth]

Thank Izik for that, he is the one for have requested me the tool

[hexed fog]

it's so good for filling in your entry-dex

[narrow cosmos]

Yeah, much quicker, it's a great idea.

Now to ban Izik from it for a few months so he stops widening the gap.

[hexed fog]

[hexed fog]

I can def do a list of helpful links

[hexed fog]

The following sites are extremely useful when creating entries:

Fusion Dex - https://www.fusiondex.org
Infinite Dummies - https://www.infinitedummies.fr/pages/entries.html

[dusty hound]

Absol/Hitmontop #310.237

POKENAME can detect disasters with its horn, appearing before people to warn them. As a result, it is mistakenly believed to cause these events, as its spinning motions are rumored to stir up tornadoes and trigger tsunamis.

[hexed fog]

@rigid finch

Please remember BOTH pokemon should be taken into account within a dex entry. Even a minor nod is fine.

Also please dont put in duplicate entries for the same Pokemon.

Real convinced me these are acceptable 🙁 fiiiiine

[pale venture]

Ima be real I never knew this existed

I got a lot todo

[halcyon seal]

I believe that was just made recently? No?

super dope site

[pale venture]

Yee

[narrow cosmos]

Ye, the charts are fun, the ones that let you view sprites for combos in a line (like seeing a chart of all the fusions between say, the Charizard line and the Gardevoir line) are a neat thing too.

[amber summit]

I don't make sprites so I'm just filling one out with all my favorites

[thorn ingot]

My current progress

I have many blanks because I just make entries for a lot of the same mons I like lol

[willow venture]

How many entries do I have left before I can resubmit again

I don't know how much progress I have left and I'd like to get started back to submit entries again

[rich goblet]

Good question

[willow venture]

Did you find out

I assumed I have about 5 left for reviewing before I can just submit again whenever?

[rich goblet]

I think that’s an @hexed fog question

Brain is numb after long day

[hexed fog]

theres no specific number

[willow venture]

Does that mean I am free to submit entries again or

[hexed fog]

but we notice an onslaught of errors... lol

(rulebreaks, not grammar issues)

[willow venture]

Right so that still means I have a bunch of entries that needs to be reviewed before I can submit again freely

Whether or not I post those entries again is whenever for me but I'd just like to write again in general

[hexed fog]

well done!

I get it 🙂

[dusty hound]

[rigid finch]

😠

[hollow nimbus]

-#

[thorn ingot]

[willow venture]

So uh what about me

Am I in the clear to just submit new entries or no

[pale venture]

For clarification on what they're asking

You can submit, but only ones that have been reviewed and approved here

[willow venture]

And when can I be allowed to just submit

10 entries in?

[pale venture]

There's no specific amount, just when they feel you've gotten accustomed to the writing style and tense they're looking for that follows the FAQ and lore book rules.

[willow venture]

Sure I guess

[pale venture]

Honestly the Lorebook/FAQ is a fascinating read and it helped me a lot.

Lorebook is short and in pins, FAQ is (seemingly) questions people asked the Dev at some point, which is in the Google sheet in the FAQ tab iirc

[willow venture]

I've been reading them I just need to know so if I posted ones that have already been reviewed it doesn't suddenly get flagged for "you should post this in #dex-entries-discussion" even though it already did go through review

And it's annoying to have to go through getting pinged on that again or whatever

[pale venture]

You can post the entries that have been reviewed and approved by an Unown or something like that, but I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong

[willow venture]

Well I posted ones already reviewed anyway

I just need to get back to the rhythm in general so having a designated "alright you're free now" would be good

[pale venture]

I'm sure at some point they'll do that, izik is VERY thorough

[ebon warren]

@willow venture you haven't been banned from writing Dex entries, so you aren't stopped from writing as many as you want.
You have been warned that you need to have every entry you write be approved by an Unown here BEFORE submitting. This doesn't prevent you from writing any entries. You could even submit multiple Dex entries here (formatted properly) in a single post and ping Unowns, and once they are all approved, you can submit all of the entries approved from that message all at once.

It's only adding a few small steps but it dramatically reduces the amount of work on the (volunteer) Unown staff.
If and when you can produce repeated entries that don't break any FAQ rules, you may be able to directly submit again at some point, but that is TBD as of now.

[pale venture]

Oh hey an Unown

Always right on time

[willow venture]

Breaking grammar is fine right

Wait no I mean moreso grammar errors whatever

[ebon warren]

it's fine but not ideal, and it likely wouldn't encourage removing the requirement either

minor errors aren't terrible but ideally you would also incorporate feedback on patterns

[pale venture]

Everyone makes grammar mistakes, but the severity and frequency of em of course changes things

[ebon warren]

it's also a great opportunity to ask questions about grammar, spelling, punctuation, lore, anything relating to the Dex entries

[pale venture]

[willow venture]

The ones I posted right now should be ones already peer reviewed by Wildheart if anyone asks

Are those ones in the clear

[ebon warren]

we have ways to track them, I haven't looked personally but as long as they were approved by an Unown you're good

[willow venture]

I'd just like to be able to clearly move on from those ones first so I can post ones I've written already for peer review but yea

[pale venture]

You can see the spreadsheet on their current status, go to the "Responses" tab and type either your name or part of your entry in the find (CTRL+F) field

They'll either be approved, denied or blank (under review)

[ebon warren]

you can post as many as you'd like, I'd just recommend pinging Unowns each time so they're easy to locate, but it's not necessary (just good practice). This also would work better if multiple entries were in a single message

[willow venture]

It already was a few hours ago with Wildheart but I got it

Said to have originated from Ultra Plant, POKENAME obsessively collect whatever shiny, precious stones it can discover. It hoard wherever it wants, and none dare to resist them.```

```Sableye/Ultra Necrozma (421.470.png)
Every part of POKENAME's body is made up of the most precious and shiniest gemstones known to mankind, though it is said to be drawn most to crystals from Alola. Its bright body is said to be very alluring, but dangerous to the touch.```

<@&1210701164426039366> This is how I ping right

[ebon warren]

make sure to include the precise Dex numbers as well, so for these they would be 421.450 & 421.470

[small nest]

I like these concepts!

• For the first one, you have some singular/plural conflict going on. The first sentence describes POKENAME as singular (it) while the second sentence describes POKENAME as plural (they). This is one of the more common things for our writers to stumble with, especially since Pokémon names can be singular or plural.
  If you have trouble with this, I recommend picking one style and sticking to it for all of your entries.
  The second sentence is also a little unclear - do you mean they make their hoards wherever they want?
  Finally, since most of the entry is in the present tense, it should be none dare rather than none dared.

[willow venture]

I get you but then other reviewers will go "well it sounds like it's a singular habit rather than it being a species thing"

My actual style would just be constantly "it" but that seems to have flagged me in the batch denial I got for "you wrote things like it's just that single Pokemon doing it" or whatever the reason was

[thorn ingot]

No he’s saying you use the “it” type of tone for the first sentence and then switch it to the “they” type of tone for the second sentence when they should all just be under one, in which case you can fix that by saying “collect” instead of “collects” and change it to they so that both sentences are all they

[willow venture]

And that won't flag it as a "you write it for a singular Pokemon than a species thing" then?

As long as I can have the consistency of "it" easily I'm down

[thorn ingot]

Well in this case it should have the “they” consistency

[willow venture]

Okay so I can't use it is what you're saying

[thorn ingot]

Yeah you can’t use both it and they at the same time

No mixing

[willow venture]

What

I just use it

Oh I didn't write the fix hold on

Said to have originated from Ultra Plant, POKENAME obsessively collects whatever shiny, precious stones it can discover. It hoards wherever it wants, and none dare to resist it.

There

[thorn ingot]

You mix it and they still here. For this entry, I would stick with they so it doesn’t feel like it’s just describing only one species

[willow venture]

What

[thorn ingot]

“POKENAME obsessively collect”-plural (they)
“POKENAME obsessively collects”-singular (it)

[willow venture]

Oh my god just one S dude

There though

How about Sablzma (Ultra)

Okay I can post Sablzma (Base) then

[thorn ingot]

Well one s changes the entire meaning when using POKENAME since it be either singular or plural

It’s how grammar rules go.

[willow venture]

I know I know it's just annoying to remember since POKENAME isn't exactly telling me about 'it' or 'they'

[small nest]

It's hard to stay in the right side of that line sometimes, for sure. Make sure to keep your writing in the present tense (write about what the fusion does, not what it did). If you're having trouble with it, though, I recommend just writing in the plural form.

[azure wagon]

@hexed fog i have written 670 entries, may i have the amazing Assistant Researcher role please

[small nest]

I would still recommend changing the sentence a bit. "Hoards wherever it wants" is a little confusing. I would use "makes its hoard wherever it wants" or something similar.

[willow venture]

Ah shoot I already posted it ah well

[azure wagon]

I also need to work on the April Dexpromt month soon

[thorn ingot]

-# Convienient number to ask for the role eh

[willow venture]

Is Ultra Sablzma solid now

[ebon warren]

A single S can also be the difference between a common word that is used as an adverb (as) and a noun that is the profane version of the word butt. A single letter matters.
Stable plurality across sentences and subject/verb agreement are required for any Dex entry to be grammatically and stylistically accurate, so ensure you're reviewing your entries multiple times for these if they don't immediately stick out to you while writing/reading your own entries.

[willow venture]

Guys I'm still asking about Ultra Sablzma

Unless it's fine?

I can post it?

Okay I guess I'll move on then

The flame on POKENAME's tail burns brighter the more it spars with other Pokémon or its trainer. It doesn't acknowledge defeat due to its lack of experience.```

```Charmeleon/Tyrogue (5.236)
The dimmer the flame on its tail, the more agitated POKENAME becomes in search of an opponent that can match it. If it loses a fight, it will keep fighting until it wins.```

```Charizard/Hitmonchan (6.107a)
Every charged blow from this Pokémon is paired with deft weaving, making it as hard to hit as a shadow. Battles between rival POKENAME often end in a draw, much to their dismay.```

```Charizard/Hitmontop (6.237)
The moment it engages in a fight, POKENAME cloaks its body with its wings, shielding itself from fiery cyclones while gaining unparalleled momentum as it dances. POKENAME will always fight as long as it finds joy in the battle.```

<@&1210701164426039366>

[small nest]

I do have some comments for the second entry as well. Just had some stuff to get done. The grammar is just fine! The sprite doesn't seem to have a body made of gems, though, so the first sentence is a bit confusing.
You could drop the "is said" from the second sentence, since that's a pretty basic statement that isn't implying fantastic origins or tremendous powers. I'd love to hear a bit more about why its body is dangerous (is it toxic? Sharp?).

I'll have to bow out here to go to bed, but I'll review the other entries tomorrow if others don't get to them.

[willow venture]

It's an inferrence thing based on how shiny/gemstone-like the wings are

I can take off the "it is said" tho yeah

Does the danger need to be told explicitly or can it be vague

I'd prefer it be vague

[upper loom]

Added Assistant Researcher (500+ dex entries) to mepp.. || No reason given.

[hexed fog]

Gems arent usually dangerous to the touch though :/

If it said "to touch" you could infer "oh it is a dangerous pokemon be careful" but 'to the touch ' infers even if its pals touch it will cause injury

[keen kestrel]

I think if you say “most precious and shiniest” that is sort of the same as saying “most shiniest” which is obviously wrong, but someone correct me if it doesn’t work that way

But i believe it does

[hexed fog]

Something can be shiny but not precious. Thats not a big deal

Poison ivy for instance has shiny leaves lol

[pale venture]

Quick lore question, why is it dangerous to touch in the first place? I don't remember Necrozma or Sableye having that effect

[keen kestrel]

Im just saying the grammar is wrong

Like it should be “most precious and shiny” right?

[robust pike]

I think both work ? It's rather a matter of writing style
like "He had the most pretty, sparkling eyes I ever saw"
it has the name meaning but different vibe than "He had the most pretty and sparkling eyes I ever saw"

The pace is a little different

[willow venture]

That's why there's the "is said" clarifier but I wager you wouldn't think that's enough

Which means I have to actually say why it's no no to touch

[keen kestrel]

Im talking about “shiny” vs “shiniest”
So your examples are both correct, but if you wrote “most pretty and sparkliest eyes” instead, that sounds incorrect to me

“Most sparkly” vs “most sparkliest”

Am i crazy? Now i MUST know lol

[robust pike]

aaaaah no no you're right

I checked the original text not this one lol
yes it's "most X and X" not "most X and X-est"
at leats I believe so

that was my confusion, my bad

[willow venture]

So how about this?
Every part of POKENAME's body is made up of the shiniest, most precious gemstones known to mankind, though it is drawn most to crystals from Alola. Its bright body is said to be alluring enough to cause those who look at it to focus only on it.

<@&1210701164426039366>

[robust pike]

that may be just me but-

my weird brain apart, it si too long :

[crimson ledge]

I'm just gonna break down my thoughts:
Every part of POKENAME's body is made up of the shiniest, most precious gemstones known to mankind

• Looking at the sprite you're writing for, it doesn't really look like it's entirely made up of gemstones. There's large portions that seem to be normal Sableye skin.
• Remember that dex entries use a factual, encyclopedic tone. Saying that these are the "most precious" gemstones is subjective. Including opinions is fine if you do it like, "they are commonly considered to be the most precious gemstones", but presenting it as fact goes against the dex tone.
  though it is said to be drawn most to crystals from Alola.
• So is it made of gemstones, or drawn to gemstones? These seem like two separate ideas.
  Its bright body is said to be very alluring, alluring enough to cause others who look at it to focus only on it.
• This kind of repetition for style also doesn't really fit the intended tone of dex entries. You could just say something like:
  Its bright body is said to be alluring enough to cause those who look at it to focus only on it.

[robust pike]

All this makes me think I really should have posted my attempts here before sending them

[keen kestrel]

being made (partly of) gemstones and also being drawn to them is consistent with unfused sableye I think? but maybe there is a better way to phrase it, it's sort of relying on us to assume this guy eats gems like sableye does

[crimson ledge]

That's what I mean; it's not contradictory, but the way the first sentence is phrased seems to imply that they're the same idea. "though it is said to be drawn most to crystals from Alola" suggests that the idea that it's drawn to gems in the first place was introduced earlier, which it wasn't.

[keen kestrel]

oh yeah good point

like are alolan crystals the best ones? unclear haha

[robust pike]

Its bright body is said to be very alluring, so much that it's hard to look away from it.
or
Its bright body is said to be very alluring, so much that no one is able to look away from it.
(just suggesting too)

depending how hard it is to not focus on it

it' be funny though if sableye had different favorites gems depending what pokemon they're fused with. makes sense too

[robust pike]

Raifa #26.173 (Raichu/Cleffa)

This Pokémon accumulates electricity in its body and tail, but it’s so small it often needs to discharge. It secretly does so by recharging batteries that cross its path, and can never resist recharging a kid’s night light.

[willow venture]

• Again it's an inference based on the wings it got and the treasures above it, I'd like to assume its body is subtle but clearly made of gemstones much like how its eyes are gemstones, but if it has to be very faithful sure I can say its wings and eyes or something instead of the body
• I can work with that
• I think something can be drawn to gemstones but also made of one? Doesn't seem contradictory to me, people are made of meat but like eating meat, or smth like that
• I can work with that as well

Another rewrite then sure here it is
Every part of POKENAME's body is considered to be made of the most precious gemstones known to mankind, though it is drawn most to crystals from Alola. Its bright body is said to be alluring enough to cause those who look at it to focus only on it.

<@&1210701164426039366>

[robust pike]

Maybe 6 characters isn't much and it won't be a problem, but the counter i used is at 256... Sorry ^^' I prefer to tell you just in case.

[willow venture]

No no do tell me about character amount I can shave stuff off easy

[robust pike]

:) !

[willow venture]

There exactly 249-250

[robust pike]

that's my main worry I always fear to write too much XD
Oh okay probably depends of the tool then x) I spoke for nothing

ah wait no you mean you edited it ?

ah yes haha 248 now 👌

[willow venture]

A lot of the dex writers here are on the wordier side so yknow you can go nuts with the 250 character limit

[robust pike]

also just about the gem/gem meat/meat thing, just my thought : of course it can be drawn to gemstones and made of it. (I think) the meaning of Knilk here was that the two parts (being made of, being drawn to) didn't have a visible/written link between them, making the sentence a little confusing.
To me, the way it's worded means "the fact its body is made of gemstones imply it is drawn to them, except it is more drawn to alola crystals" as if the second part is a following/consequence of the first one, when it's actually (I think) speaking about two different aspects of the same pokemon ? that are both true, but not necessarily linked/implying the other ?

sorry for the wall of text I hope it's clearer ^^'

technically, it's missing in the middle kinda a "it loves gemstones, but is more drawn to-" but again, character limit XD

[willow venture]

Well okay does it really need an explainer why its drawn to gems despite being made of gems

Lots of dex entries just kinda have two unrelated things together as part of their lore

[robust pike]

not despite, just, it sound slike it's drawn to them because it's made of them, when it's just two facts about the pokemon

[willow venture]

Yeah it's just two facts

[robust pike]

yesss but the wording makes it looks like one is because of the other ^^

we know it doesn't. Just, the wording hint that it does

[keen kestrel]

yeah you even used the word "though" in the last draft
not trying to make your life harder, just want to understand your idea and help make it clear to players haha

[willow venture]

Oh I get it
Every part of POKENAME's body is considered to be made of the most precious gemstones known to mankind, with its bright body said to be alluring enough to cause those who look at it to focus only on it. It is drawn most to crystals from Alola.

There

[robust pike]

yessss

[willow venture]

It is going to be hard for you guys as long as I am still barred to write entries immediately to submit lol you are going to see me post so many entries I've got

Can I post that am I in the clear now there good right

[robust pike]

here you go, now the two parts are really apart

[keen kestrel]

works for me! I'm still not sure if the most precious gemstones ARE the ones from alola, but maybe that's fine lol

[willow venture]

Come on man the facts are already separate

Inferences!!!

[keen kestrel]

I'm just asking!

[robust pike]

you even changed one "said" for "considered" and my brain really like that lol

[willow venture]

Can I have these guys reviewed now

[robust pike]

I guess it can be alola crystals > most precious gems > other gems ?

though wait, it is said its body is made of most precious gems, then that it likes crystals alola the most
it's two independant things actually so it's ok ? (i think)

[crimson ledge]

Every part of POKENAME's body is considered to be made of the most precious gemstones known to mankind,

• You've got "is considered to be" in the wrong place. It's a fact that its body is made of gemstones, the part that's subjective is that they're precious. Also, you don't really need "every part of", since that'd be implied anyway without it being specified.
  with its bright body said to be alluring enough to cause those who look at it to focus only on it.
• Since its body is already the subject of the sentence, you don't need to re-specify that that's what you're talking about, and overall this part is just sort of clunkily written.
  It is drawn most to crystals from Alola.
• This is still phrased as if you've already introduced the idea that it's drawn to crystals.

With these issues in mind, I'd rewrite it to something like this:
POKENAME's body is made of gemstones that are considered to be the most precious known to mankind, and the sight of it is said to be so alluring that those who see it can't look away. It's drawn to precious gems, especially those from Alola.

[willow venture]

Well thank you for writing it all for me in the end I suppose

[willow venture]

Okay these fellers next if I may?

[crimson ledge]

The flame on POKENAME's tail burns brighter the more it spars with other Pokémon or its trainer. It doesn't acknowledge defeat due to its lack of experience.```
* The first sentence is a little clunky. The idea that they spar with their Trainers is an interesting one, but it's only introduced suddenly at the very end of the sentence. I'd suggest focusing on that a little more; for example, saying something about how they (presumably) frequently want to spar. 
* It's not immediately obvious why a lack of experience would cause them to not acknowledge defeat. That sounds more like a lack of maturity. 
```Charmeleon/Tyrogue (5.236)
The dimmer the flame on its tail, the more agitated POKENAME becomes in search of an opponent that can match it. If it loses a fight, it will keep fighting until it wins.```
* I think you need to introduce the idea that it becomes agitated without a sparring partner first, then talk about its tail.
* The second sentence doesn't quite make sense; presumably you mean that it seeks a rematch rather than just getting up and continuing to fight after being KOed.
```Charizard/Hitmonchan (6.107a)
Every charged blow from this Pokémon is paired with deft weaving, making it as hard to hit as a shadow. Battles between rival POKENAME often end in a draw, much to their dismay.```
* This one seems almost fine, the one thing I'd suggest is removing the "as a shadow" part; as I've mentioned before, Dex entries are supposed to have an encyclopedic tone, and using a poetic simile like this detracts from that.

The moment it engages in a fight, POKENAME cloaks its body with its wings, shielding itself from fiery cyclones while gaining unparalleled momentum as it dances. POKENAME will always fight as long as it finds joy in the battle.```
* "shielding itself from fiery cyclones" is a little confusing; since it's a fire-type, you'd assume it'd be making the fiery cyclones, not having to protect itself from them. If you mean in battles between members of the same species, that should be specified.
* Again, calling it a "dance", unless you mean it literally, is a little too poetic for a dex entry.
* The second sentence's idea that it enjoys battle is fine, but it could use some fleshing out. What would make it stop fighting?

[willow venture]

I think it's a bit too explainy to say why they spar with trainers so I don't know if I wanna add that, but sure I can rewrite the latter part

I don't see what's wrong with the sentence structure but i can rewrite that why not, but I think the second sentence makes enough sense. It loses, it'll keep going until it can score a win. Whether or not it does it immediately or not wouldn't matter or does it have to matter

A lot of canon dex entries have similes but sure whatever I can just remove those

[willow venture]

I think you can be a Fire-type and still be wary of your own fire powers, but I can just emphasize on the wings cloaking it as a sort of momentum/speed tech it has

Yes it literally just is it dancing, it's capoeira, and no why would I need to flesh out what happens if it stops fighting, too explainy again

Rewrites based on feedback

The flame on POKENAME's tail burns brighter the more it spars with other Pokémon or its trainer. It doesn't acknowledge defeat due to its lack of maturity.```

```Charmeleon/Tyrogue
Trainers can detect the agitation levels of POKENAME as it searches for an opponent that can match it by how bright the flame on its tail is. If it loses a fight, it will try to keep fighting until it wins.```

```Charizard/Hitmonchan (a)
Every charged blow from this Pokémon is paired with deft weaving, making it almost impossible to hit. Battles between rival POKENAME often end in a draw, much to their dismay.```

```Charizard/Hitmontop
The moment it engages in a fight, POKENAME cloaks its body with its wings, spinning around with it to gain unparalleled momentum as it dances. POKENAME will always fight as long as it finds joy in the battle.```

[crimson ledge]

One thing to keep in mind is that these dex entries need to be totally self-contained; you can't rely on the reader having any outside context. I'd suggest writing as if they know nothing about the component Pokemon.

[willow venture]

Yeah but its been self-contained from the start since it just likes to spar (and nothing much needed to be expanded further than that) and it's immature so it doesn't acknowledge/know defeat

[crimson ledge]

What I'm saying is that it seems strange to introduce these ideas that don't have a clear point or payoff. Take "POKENAME will always fight as long as it finds joy in the battle.", for example - I understand you're trying to convey that it finds joy in battle, so it continuously fights, but that's not really what you've written. What you've written basically boils down to "It fights until it no longer enjoys fighting", which just sounds obvious.

[crimson ledge]

The flame on POKENAME's tail burns brighter the more it spars with other Pokémon or its trainer. It doesn't acknowledge defeat due to its lack of maturity.```
* This is better. One more thing I would point out is that using "or" in "Pokémon or its trainer" makes it sound exclusive. Presumably they spar with other Pokémon *and* its Trainer. Unless you mean that its fire grows in each individual sparring match, then goes back to normal after the spar is over? Because your entry originally had me imagining basically just more powerful Charmander/Tyrogues permanently had brighter tail flames. Either way, you could simplify the first sentence to end with "spars with others" or even just "the more it spars".

[willow venture]

Yes

[willow venture]

Am I allowed a poetic license or do I have to be "explainy" about it

I'm not sure how much payoff it really needs for a Pokemon to just be like "it likes to fight as long as there's fun to be had in the fight" and that's it that's just how the species is

[crimson ledge]

You don't need to be overly "explainy". There's definitely room for ambiguity, but there's a difference between writing something ambiguous that makes the reader wonder, and writing something ambiguous that just leaves the reader confused.

[willow venture]

Is it really going to leave readers confused though

"Oh this mon loves fighting as long as its having fun" yeah that's kinda it

The vague inferrences could be taken away as like "so it won't fight if it knows it won't have fun", "so it doesn't matter if it wins or loses as long as it had fun", etc

Idk that whole thing is just a stretch but if it really needs explaining

The moment it engages in a fight, POKENAME cloaks its body with its wings, spinning around with it to gain unparalleled momentum as it dances. POKENAME enjoys any good fight, especially those it's having a lot of fun in.```

[crimson ledge]

This works slightly better, but it still seems redundant. One would already assume they're having fun if they're enjoying the fight.

To be clear, fact that this Pokemon enjoys fighting and seeks out fights is an interesting attribute that you should highlight. The issue with the previous version is that if it's phrased like, "it likes to fight as long as there's fun to be had in the fight", then that's a lot less unique and interesting because that's just sort of generally true - people (and presumably Pokemon) like fun things. What makes this mon unique would be that it finds fighting inherently fun, which is not generally true.

[willow venture]

The moment it engages in a fight, POKENAME cloaks its body with its wings, spinning around with it to gain unparalleled momentum as it dances. POKENAME finds joy in any fight it's in, no matter what.```

There

If it's all the same I'd like to post these four immediately and move on to my next entries

[crimson ledge]

Sorry, I'm not quite done with this batch, give me a moment

Trainers can detect the agitation levels of POKENAME as it searches for an opponent that can match it by how bright the flame on its tail is. If it loses a fight, it will try to keep fighting until it wins.```
The second sentence seems fine, but the first sentence is frankly kind of a mess. It doesn't flow well, and it's just way too many words to convey two simple ideas; "Its tail gets brighter when it's agitated." and "It gets agitated when it can't find an opponent." I'd suggest just writing something like, "POKENAME becomes agitated when it can't find a worthy opponent, which Trainers can detect by the brightness of its tail."

[willow venture]

POKENAME becomes agitated when it can't find a worthy opponent, which Trainers can detect by how bright its tail's flame is. If it loses a fight, it will try to keep fighting until it wins.```

Go on

[crimson ledge]

I think that's all I had left for this batch, IMO your current versions are fine to post.

[dusty hound]

#237.310 Hitmontop/Absol

POKENAME is often called a disaster by those who face it. Its uneven body proportions make its spinning 'fighting' style highly unpredictable, turning every battle it is in into chaos

This was harder trying to find a good entry for the reverse of the fusion while trying not to use the same idea but still keep it interesting

[rich goblet]

I think this needs to be workshoped a little more, maybe POKENAME could give foes a sense of impending doom but calling it a disaster without extra substance feels off to me

Like you could say for the first sentence:

"POKENAME are a disaster to fight against because it gives its foes a sense of impending doom."

[keen kestrel]

I think you could end that revised sentence at the comma tbh

[rich goblet]

Fixed

[azure wagon]

What's that in the air? Pollen probably. 🟡
Get excited for April's Dexchallenge. More info to come closer to the end of the month~

[keen kestrel]

Oooh

Just quit my evil weekend job, still might not have much time for spriting, but dex entries are faster to make… 👀

[keen kestrel]

I thought for sure one of those words was going to be Allergies 😂

[azure wagon]

woe, pollen be upon ye

[rich goblet]

I’m so excited for when this drops

[keen kestrel]

They have already been revealed so is there another element that is revealed each day? Or do we just honor system not do it ahead of time

Sorry i know they said more info later haha

[midnight siren]

not budew

[azure wagon]

More being revealed is like the guide and such on the Google excel sheet that I need to finish up should have that by tomorrow.

You can prepare your ideas now, the thing is mainly just posting your entry here daily for the prompt (think like inktober). Though this is just for fun so theres no pressure!

[strong flame]

ohey, my Umbrella's on there. NMice. I will probably be desining a replacement in the future

Because two of the castform/Honedge's I made got alted.

[azure wagon]

I love umbrella castform 🥺

[strong flame]

So I'll be making them a little more recognizable

making the hilt like an actual sword

[final bison]

amazing job as always - thanks so much for your effort

[low torrent]

I accidentally submitted a bunch of dex entries under shocktopus instead of shocktopus1717

How do I rectify this issue and unite all under one name?

[hearty sun]

#custom-dex-errors would probably be the best place

[low torrent]

was not on my channel list lol

[rich goblet]

Well now you know

[willow venture]

What's Dexchallenge about

[azure wagon]

It's like inktober where everyday theres a prompt you'll use to create a dex entry. Like using a specific "word" in the entry or maybe a fusion needs to include a mon from a particular line. You'll write and then post your entry here ideally every day for the entire month (but this is just for fun so no worries if you dont lol).

The "challenge" part is creating an entry for each day. 👍

[willow venture]

POKENAME uses the egg it carries to detect life in its surroundings. It is said that if this creature gives the egg to any couple, they will soon have children.```

```Blissey/Sliggoo (242.445)
Too timid to eat anything using its dissolving slime and mucus, POKENAME instead subsists on whatever it crawls over, with grass being its favorite. The egg it carries can instantly restore any Pokémon to its maximum potential.```

<@&1210701164426039366>

[hexed fog]

The ideas are fine 🙂 no loner a rule 2 line

Lonret

Lomer

Jfc

Logner

Kill meeeeeeee

[crimson ledge]

This man is in charge of judging your grammar, folks.

[storm light]

[hexed fog]

I'll do grmmer later im too tired

Omg gramer

Ffs

[storm light]

[hexed fog]

I'm going to sleep

[storm light]

Get some good rest Izik lol

[willow venture]

Btw when I'm no longer designated a magenta am I gonna be told or is that just smth I'll find out through the dex entry sheet

[storm light]

I think it's more likely you'll be made aware

[willow venture]

Until then I hope you all enjoyed my persistent presence

[hexed fog]

There's no set time

[willow venture]

Brother go to sleep

[crimson ledge]

I think like Izik tried to say, these are basically fine, but I do have some suggestions for you to consider to possibly refine them:

POKENAME uses the egg it carries to detect life in its surroundings. It is said that if this creature gives the egg to any couple, they will soon have children.```
* Eggs don't typically detect life. Obviously most anything is possible in Pokemon, but it might be worth fleshing out how/why these ones do rather than just stating it's so. 
* I'm a tinnnnny bit 🤨 about the second sentence because not every couple includes someone with, y'know, a womb, but I think it's probably vague and "it is said" enough to be fine.

[willow venture]

Originally I wrote it as "they will conceive" which is less vague but also yknow

Lmao

[hexed fog]

I think its like a dog sniffing out someone who is terminal

They somehow can just sense it

[willow venture]

Explaining the eggs would take too many words so just a basic fact imo is enough

[hexed fog]

Pokemon magic

[willow venture]

I like my dex entries wordy but only if its a fact sandwich most of the time

I think that covers all the entries that got batch denied?

Outside of the 2edgy4me entries I wrote as a self-challenge and clearly flopped lmao

Gonna rewrite a lot of those ones

[rich goblet]

@willow venture Curious thought, what’s your favorite Pokemon?

I highly recommend everyone get a Pokemon they love and become the master of that Pokemon

It is very satisfying

[thorn ingot]

3 of my favorites are also problem Pokemon so it will all just get eaten from me by the Izik monopoly

And one was just done in Porygon

[rich goblet]

Oh naurrrrr

[willow venture]

The only one I can conceivably go for is Bibarel

(I know my namesake might make it sound like I love Bidoof but punning Bidoof with beat is funnier than punning Bibarel with beat)

The other two is either already super gunked up with a bunch of writers hastily wanting to write for it and maybe a touch bit "ew this guy writes this mon only" (Gardevoir) or uhhhhhhhhh

Well you already found out me experimenting and failing with it (Darkrai)

[rich goblet]

Bibarel is so cute though, I bet you’d have fun writing for it

[storm light]

tbh writing for a Pokemon you love or even like is a lot easier, which is why i tend to go for those (Ninetales my beloved)

It does get tough sometimes, especially after writing the same thing several times though

[rich goblet]

I like to use the motto “all roads lead to headache”

Joking aside most people only see so many entries at a time because they’re playing the game so I learn into the absurd a little with the hope of being memorable

[willow venture]

I think just writing entries for Bibarel would be painful for me tbh

I'd like to leave my trail across all Pokemon in general

[robust pike]

I know I sent it a while ago but I'd love review if possible

[willow venture]

Also there are some Bibarel entries I wanna write and then I found out they've already gotten dex entries 😭

[final bison]

I think you can still write an entry for a sprite you really like, even if it already has a description. The only restriction I've seen is that an author can't submit two separate entries for the same sprite.

ofc, i advise you to ask an Unown or someone who knows more than me for confirmation (because I don't want to give you incorrect information ), but in the past I have made some entries for Pokémon that perhaps already had their own description and were accepted and inserted on the Fusiondex website.

[willow venture]

Oh I've done that enough times it's just that

I want to be the first ones on the scene on a lot of mons

I already have written entries on ones that got entries but (except one) I'm gonna keep em close to my chest for now lol

Also because of how it works in-game it is really awkward to be a fusion mon with different entries cuz its bugged up rn

(Iirc last I play if a fused mon has more than one entry occasionally an entry will continue to an entirely different entry, i.e: You read the first page for Volcarona/Bibarel of Entry 1 by fiordaliso, but then on page 2 it's instead Entry 2 by beatdoof)

And I think that bug still is kept going

So I wanna avoid that situation in-game as much as possible for a lot of in-game mons

[final bison]

makes sense! I wasn't aware of the bug, tbh

[hexed fog]

Multiple entries are allowed the restrictions are two entries from the same or an entry from the artist

[willow venture]

Anyway new entries for review woot woot, I can finally move on from my batch-denied entries since I've already got them done

In rare situations, POKENAME is said to appear in the sky taking over the real sun in places where the sun doesn't shine. Shining as brightly as the sun, it has been used as a symbol for various charity and volunteer organizations.```

```Lunatone/Lunatone (544.544.png)
In rare situations, POKENAME is said to appear in the sky taking over the real moon in places where the moon never sets. Gleaming as cold and sure as the moon, it has been used as a symbol for various criminal and cultist organizations.``` 

```Yamask/Eevee (411.133.png)
The spirit of an Eevee that has never fulfilled its potential became POKENAME. It wanders endlessly at night, searching for humans who should have trained it.```

```Yamask/Leafeon (411.271.png)
It constantly weeps silently at night, but don't worry, it's actually just how it photosynthesizes. Paldeans often hunt POKENAME down because of the unique texture of its ghostly, leafy body, making for a perfect vegetable base for any dishes.```

```Cofagrigus/Leafeon (362.271.png)
Living in tombs and abandoned houses, POKENAME only surfaces at the dead of night, sitting proudly upright as the air around it thickened with vaporous smoke. Witnesses who saw it has said they experienced heightened anxiety and feverish delusions.```

POKENAME is naturally attuned to the stars, often watching the skies to mull over if its going to be a day full of play or not. It is also surprisingly agile, leaping up the height of a full-grown Gyarados.```

```Clefairy/Riolu (35.384.png)
POKENAME communicates with others of its flock without speaking through waves of star-shaped pulses it throws out in various sizes called starian. If POKENAME threw out a huge starian when communicating, that means it's talking very loudly.```

```Clefairy/Lucario (35.296.png)
By manipulating a globally present spacian energy called starian, POKENAME is able to detect irregularities in celestial bodies' rotations. It is also able to communicate using starian, which manifests as the ability to speak like a human.```

```Clefable/Lucario (36.296.png)
Harnessing the energies of the stars, POKENAME's fists are as powerful as meteor strikes, able to punch a hole through nearly anything. Ace Trainers note it as an exceptionally great partner based on its power and its exceptional intellect.```

<@&1210701164426039366> Had to separate these into two separate posts since I am running through Discord word limit whoops

[rich goblet]

I think this looks alright, no complaints from me

[willow venture]

Felt inspired so I decided to make more entries

While POKENAME has a variety of tool extensions on its arms, evolution has made it strongly favor using its chainsaw arm. Trainers often have to repeatedly teach POKENAME what it can and can't rip up.```
```Weavile/Klang (398.262.png)
POKENAME likes to use its chainsaw arm as a way to intimidate would-be trainers attempting to catch it, though it is not as mischievous with it as one might assume. It has begun to learn how fun carving up trees can be.```
```Piplup/Larvitar (322.246.png)
Too haughty and proud to ask for anything, POKENAME can only be fed berries and muddy water after its trainer gives it shiny items. POKENAME only sleeps after it stuffs itself with food.```
```Prinplup/Larvitar (323.246.png)
POKENAME is actually far more social compared to a Prinplup, forming waddles to aid others with tasks such as gathering berries or searching for sources of muddy water, specifically to assist those entering a pupal state.```
```Prinplup/Pupitar (323.247.png)
As it progresses through its pupal stage, POKENAME's body become more translucent like clear water. When it does, it will head out to the open sea, floating and waiting for the right time.```
```Empoleon/Pupitar (324.247.png)
The trident horns and glacier-like mask adorning POKENAME's face is said to be a marker of divinity for a waddle of Piptar who rescues it from floating on the ocean. The shinier and glossier they are, the more worthy they are of being the waddle's emperor.```
```Empoleon/Tyranitar (324.248.png)
POKENAME leads its own waddle in the most frigid parts of the polar oceans. Those who disturb its colony will find themselves permanently frozen and encased, nothing more than a trophy for the waddle.```

Reviews will be very appreciated so I can post these ideas I've got brewing around

Let me know if all these are actually fine so I can clear them to post right away, I'll be sleeping in a few minutes lol

[rich goblet]

I'll give it a read shortly, need to clock into my part time first

[rich goblet]

Weavile/Klink has an issue. It is entirely possible that Weavile and Klink become a fusion right before reading the Pokedex, the whole "used to have" part is highly dubious.

Weavile/Klang
Just a nitpick, but "brandish" its chainsaw would hit harder

Piplup/Larvitar sounds like you're talking about one instance of the Pokémon, also the way it reads right now makes it sound like we have to beg the Pokémon to eat? Doesn't sound right

Prinplup/Larvitar what does forming waddles mean? I thought a waddle was like a type of movement

Prinplup/Pupitar is technically one sentence, and a run-on sentence at that. I would split the sentence and clean it up a bit

Empoleon/Pupitar
I'm dubious about the marker of divinity but I think it is okay. Is a waddle a group of POKENAME?

Empoleon/Tyranitar
Those who disturb their colony*

[willow venture]

I think the "used to have" part can imply pre evo it has a diverse toolkit (which can still be necessarily independent imo) but I guess I can rewrite it later if despite everything it still implies that I'm referencing a former evo

Hell yeah I agree

It is supposed to sound like we are begging the Pokemon to eat yeah, if that's bad I can find a rewrite for it later

Fun fact for the rest of these entries; a waddle is what you'd call a flock of penguins on land

I can edit Prin(pupi)tar yeah

Thank you for the Empoleon backfeeds I'll edit them in a bit

You can call a group of penguins a waddle, a raft, or a colony, depending on where they are and what they are doing. A waddle is on land, a raft is in the water, and a colony is a breeding group.

[rich goblet]

Regarding the begging Pokémon to eat, it doesn't make too much sense since most pokemon need to eat

[willow venture]

I know they're technically not an actual penguin but I feel like a real world animal term can be appropriated to be used for a Penguin pokemon

[rich goblet]

The waddle part can stay then, I was unaware

[willow venture]

Only if it has a trainer because otherwise it will find food on its own

I can add a quick little part of it to make it clearer

[rich goblet]

It would make more sense if the Trainer bribes them with food IMO, because otherwise it sounds like the pokemon is starving itself 😭

[willow venture]

That works yeah

[rich goblet]

I'm admittedly not the best at giving edits, I tend to play it safe when it comes to entries

[willow venture]

There are also the ones above the Wealinks and Printars if you wanna take a look

[real mist]

#413.107 Hitmonchan / Ferroseed

Wild POKENAME are often sighted in caves that house plentiful iron deposits. When two POKENAME meet, it is impossible to stop the two from engaging in combat. It is said that fragments of their armor that break away produce Test.

[rich goblet]

Pokemon don't normally come from shards of other Pokemon

I would revise it to say attract or lure, but another Pokemon cannot be made as described here

[willow venture]

Is the "it is said" clarified not enough for it

[keen kestrel]

I agree that’s fun as an in world rumor

[willow venture]

Hey Robsoup

[rich goblet]

Hm...

[willow venture]

Have you seen the entries I posted above

[keen kestrel]

Its like how it is said that cutting a worm in half makes 2 worms 😂

[willow venture]

https://tenor.com/view/kollect-my-pages-kollect-slenderman-kys-carnie-yay-gif-12619614212588528353

[rich goblet]

I suppose it works then,

[abstract fog]

Quick question (from someone quite new to Discord), which username should I give in the form? The lowercase one or the normal one?

[willow venture]

I do mean it when I say I will spam them lmao

[willow venture]

Lowercase always

Hello btw fellow Beat

[abstract fog]

Alright, thanks!!

[rich goblet]

Your discord username is the lowercase one, so it would be thordemidgard

[abstract fog]

Hehe, hi!!

[real mist]

Revised.

[rich goblet]

howdy

[real mist]

Or not, as it did not accept my edit.

#413.107 Hitmonchan / Ferroseed

Wild POKENAME are often sighted in caves that house plentiful iron deposits. When two POKENAME meet, it is impossible to stop the two from engaging in combat. Their shells are highly resistant to blunt force, meaning their brawls often last weeks at a time.

[rich goblet]

Golden

[willow venture]

https://tenor.com/view/singing-rumi-mira-zoey-kpop-demon-hunters-gif-12863854991989479517

Can't resist the ref

[rich goblet]

Yamask/Eevee
could instead of should - no one is really obligated to train them

Yamask/Leafeon
You could say it gains energy from crying, but I think this is a little too far from Photosynthesis. Also the casual "but don't worry" should be avoided

[willow venture]

I'm keeping the photosynthesis for sure lol Pokemons all have their different ways of drawing in sun into the Yafeon probably knows it too

[real mist]

#104.84 Cubone/Doduo

POKENAME possess highly aerodynamic bodies and powerful legs, cutting through the vast deserts and plains with ease. POKENAME charge their prey down with superior speed, and lance them with their protruding skull like a spear.

[rich goblet]

I like this one

[narrow cosmos]

Kiwimon!

[real mist]

The artist who made this sprite is fantastic. It's a shame that it didn't have a description before.

[rich goblet]

I'm already tapped out, my brain is also glazing over reading the entries

Y'all have fun correcting each other's entries, I need to cook some lunch for gramps

[halcyon seal]

SAME that one is PEAK

I somehow never got that fusion in my hundreds of runs of IF

[real mist]

Its so cool

I loved him

[halcyon seal]

i need to check its bst and learnset tho before I boot up the game and use it

wait, everything else about it is good too wtf

[keen kestrel]

For yamask/leafeon, the issue is not that you are being creative, it’s more that we can’t tell what you mean just by reading it. Crying at night is how it photosynthesizes?
Photosynthesis is a word that specifically means turning sunlight into energy when it is absorbed.
(It actually means a VERY specific process, the kind that produces oxygen as opposed to what some other bacteria do, that’s not what most people would think)
So the sentence just does not make sense to us (how is it doing it at night)
If you just mean “that’s how it gets energy” then say that 🙂

Or if you meant something else that’s fine too, i just can’t tell right now

[real mist]

Ground flying with potential for lightning rod

It just nullifies the majority of it’s weaknesses

[halcyon seal]

On another note, and I guess someone with more experience could correct me if I am wrong - but the section where it says "but don't worry" doesn't read like a dex entry to me? Dex entries are supposed to be informative, not so much conversational

[halcyon seal]

so peak for double battles

[real mist]

Yup

By far one of my fav mid game mons

#176.444 Togetic/Goomy

POKENAME are highly emotionally intelligent. As such, they often fit into large groups of other Pokemon for protection or locate trainers, taking advantage of it's pitiful strength to guilt others into helping them.

[keen kestrel]

yeah someone else already left that note

Maybe there is a different way to say that though

Maybe if it said “but trainers shouldn’t worry”, would that be fine? Surely so

[real mist]

#176.445 Togetic/Sliggoo

POKENAME, upon their evolution, typically take a protective role in their social network as a form of "repayment" for protection they were offered prior. This Pokemon is often seen in places of great strife, defending the wayward.

[rich goblet]

but this is completely normal as... etc etc? I'm making a stew btw in case you all were curious

[halcyon seal]

screw pokemon. Tell me about the stew

[rich goblet]

It's more like congee I think, but my grandpa likes pieces of meat inside so I use meat floss and scrap cuts to make sure he gets enough protein

I'm a part time caregiver for my gramps

[halcyon seal]

thats really cool and noble

I learned what congee is today now. Somehow never heard of it before

[rich goblet]

Yeah its like a rice stew

Or rice porridge maybe

POKENAME does X, while it seems alarming, POKENAME does X to... Y

Close enough welcome back algebra

[halcyon seal]

back to pokemon... I personally like this entry. Again, more experienced people can comment and correct me and help me with this as I am also trying to learn what fits as a good entry. But would this entry be too much of an allusion to other pokemon as it says 'upon their evolution?' I am unsure, and its probably fine and im overthinking it. Hopefully someone can clarify?

[halcyon seal]

there needs to be an algebra - themed unown entry if there isnt already one

gotta hit em with the pythagorean theorem.

[keen kestrel]

Thats a good question, i also want to write entries this way but i think the only issue is that this pokemon COULD have just been born from both halves fusing, it did not necessarily evolve from another fusion. So yeah it might need to be phrased in a different way unfortunately

And yeah the rest of the info also assumes it evolved from the other sprite

So if someone fused that in game, the entry would make no sense to them at all sadly

[halcyon seal]

yeah thats kinda what I was worried about, because like it would not be unreasonable to say that those 2 pokemon have a higher chance of being fused in a normal playthrough, than say found in wild or something

[keen kestrel]

OP could say it “protects smaller pokemon to repay kindness it remembers receiving in its past” idk

[dusty hound]

Registeel/Hitmontop #449.237

While POKENAME is not fast, it makes up for it with its devastating defense. This unstoppable metallic Pokemon spins on its head, gathering energy before releasing a blinding ring of light at its opponent

I’m still workshopping absol/Hitmontop that one is still a thinker

[halcyon seal]

Or even just, "as its power grows over time... it protects smaller pokemon to repay the kindness it was given in its past." (or something of the sort)

[halcyon seal]

*BEYBLADE BEYBLADE LET IT RIP

[rich goblet]

IT'S BEYBLADDDDDDE

[keen kestrel]

Ye
At that point the entry could just be a generic togetic/ togekiss entry tbh. It doesn’t really reference the sliggoo half or anything else about its features. Unless i am behind on my sliggoo lore haha

[rich goblet]

Did I just witness a clanker fucking die and get their message deleted?

[dusty hound]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-flashbang-renza-gif-3499959455427823758

[keen kestrel]

Giving such spread out feedback is probably not helpful sorry lol

[halcyon seal]

me: Realizes he knows nothing about Sliggoo

bro. genuinely. I realized I know like hardly anything about that middle stage

[keen kestrel]

I just checked the canon entries they are pretty neat

Its brain and heart etc are in the shell?? Insane lol

Its antennae are like radar
You could say the antennae sense emotions but sadly the sprite doesn’t have them

[halcyon seal]

wait... that Pokemon Sun dex entry for it

Sun - It has trouble drawing a line between friends and food. It will calmly try to melt and eat even those it gets along well with.

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-suspicious-puppet-gif-2729624127692369191

yeah ima be real... knowing that, I do get concerned about how it plans to pay kindness forward

[real mist]

Only reason I’m going after the goomy togepi fusion line is because I have one in game.

I love my goopy little freak

[halcyon seal]

For the record G-.-B, I loved that entry and support you wanting authorship over it! I just don't want your entry to get rejected because of like a lore inconsistency, or inconsistency with how players would obtain it etc etc

[real mist]

Dw man I’ll rewrite it later. Or if anyone else has a cool thought on it

I’d love to see other interpretations

[olive ermine]

You could try removing upon their evolution, as the sentence works. Flow is a little better. Drop quotes off of “repayment” and change offered prior to something about when they were younger.

I’m not sure from the teams design goals if there were any issues with your entry or if mine have more. New here and working it out. I just think the flow is better for less characters.

[olive ermine]

Speaking of guidelines. I’ve got two I’m not sure if I’ve been general enough or crossed any other specificity rules.

Gyarados-Sandshrew 130.27
POKENAME display high levels of savagery, attacking well beyond the point of their victims death, often remains are found in tiny pieces. Despite this many trainers are still deceived by their cute appearance and approach. Few who do survive

Makigarp-Sandshrew 129.27
POKENAME are completely unable to swim and have been known to drown if unsupervised near water. POKENAME are rumoured to be extinct in the wild, however so many are kept by trainers for their cute appearance that they’re not listed as endangered

[keen kestrel]

im just a random guy but that first one will probably get rejected for being a little edgy lol
Pokemon do not really kill each other (except to eat)
and saying the remains are left in tiny pieces is probably too gory/edgy

also, it seems like you left off part of the last sentence

and yes "edgy" is in their official rules lol

I like the second one! minor thing don't forget the period at the end

[crimson ledge]

Robosoup is correct. Keep in mind part of the goal here is to remain basically consistent with official dex entries' tone and content. Some mention of death and violence is fine, but this goes beyond that.

[pale venture]

The 10 year old kid that just started his Pokemon journey after using his Pokedex for the first time reading this about their father's Pokemon

https://tenor.com/mmnEyMtSq4n.gif

[olive ermine]

It should have been the end of the sentence prior. Put a stop instead of a comma

Yeah my entire concern with that one and guidelines was it going too far.

[real mist]

For what it’s worth, I do like the idea of a pokemon deceiving others via its appearance. May I see the sprite you were looking at?

[olive ermine]

More like the 10 year old kid reading this about their newly evolved Mon

[olive ermine]

Savagery and viciousness is from Gyarados’ vanilla entry

[real mist]

I think that keeping info in about it’s savagery and viciousness would be interesting—but balance it out with something about it’s diminutive size making it less than a major threat

[pale venture]

Savagery and viciousness is not what is the problem here

[olive ermine]

I am not defending the entry

Discussing where I got it from.

The idea I mean

[rigid finch]

It is believed that POKENAME were created by a more advanced civilization in space. POKENAME are incredibly durable and can even extract one's DNA.

i originally wanted to sneak the acronym EMMI into there but found that it'd sound weird.

omg i just read some entries i made a week ago and noticed something i'm very proud of

i used numbers with digits 1, 2, and 3 for quagsire/articuno, zapdos, and moltres

i feel clever

[thorn ingot]

I just did the easiest Clefable entry I've ever done and it was with Porygon2

[rigid finch]

do tell

[thorn ingot]

POKENAME can hear the glitchy sounds of viruses from several computer systems away before they even enter the computer it's in. It spends most of its time learning about space, specifically about moons of any kind or from any planet.

it actually makes some sense to use the hearing ability and the moon tie in became obvious with its learning tendencies

[rigid finch]

me and a pokemon finally have something in common

we're both autistic

[thorn ingot]

you hear viruses before the even enter your computer?

[rigid finch]

no

[willow venture]

Actually I could just make up a word for this hell yeah
It constantly weeps silently at night, but its actually gathering lunar energy, a process called selinisynthesis. Paldeans often hunt POKENAME down because of the unique texture of its ghostly, leafy body, making it a perfect vegetable base for any dish.

[keen kestrel]

That’s great

[willow venture]

Anything from this batch, above and below it that still needs review? If everything's solid I'd like to post these right away

[keen kestrel]

That wording does make it sound like the name of the energy not the action, so really it should say
“ It constantly weeps silently at night, but it’s actually gathering lunar energy, a process called selinisynthesis”

Also note the apostrophe on “it’s” 😛

[willow venture]

Its correct?

OH ON MINE lol

If everything's solid overall I'd like to post all of them so is everything cool? @keen kestrel

[shy viper]

is there a way to check if my submissions actually made it in?

without actualy goingi nto the game ll

[potent ferry]

Go to #dex-entries-submissions.
In the second to last sentence, click the big blue HERE.
Once the sheet loads, press ctrl-F on your keyboard.
In the little box that pops up, type your Discord username and wait for it to finish finding results.
When they finish (it can take a few minutes), you should be able to skip to each of your accepted entries.

[willow venture]

Alright I'll be posting the entries then

[dapper cedar]

if your submission has been approved, you can see if its in the game yet by going here
https://www.fusiondex.org/
clicking "Authors" at the top, searching for your discard username, then seeing if the entry/entries you submitted appear on your page

[rich goblet]

fusiondex takes time to update, the fastest way is through the google sheet

[dapper cedar]

fair, but ive seen fusiondex update pretty swiftly after each dex update so the time difference is mostly negligible

[rich goblet]

Valid, but rejections can happen in between bunch of approvals, so its most accurate I suppose

[dapper cedar]

true, true

[dry roost]

hello all. i'm a newbie; i've submitted my first entry, for self-fused togetic. i see that it already has an entry submitted by someone else but not yet approved; is it worthwhile to write entries for such pokémon, or should i assume that whatever submission already exists will be chosen and writing second entries is redundant work?

[storm light]

Pokemon can have several entries, as long as theyre all written by different people and meet the guidelines

[dry roost]

also, i've been ctrl+f'ing the "RESPONSES" sheet to find whether entries have already been written, but this sometimes produces false positives (i.e., looking for Bulbaew, #1.151, i have to go through 21.151, 31.151, etc., first). is there a more efficient way to do this? not familiar with excel

[storm light]

I would suggest posting your work in progress here first so we can make sure it's ready to go and give tips on how to improve it if needed. The Pins and the spreadsheet have Lore, guidelines, and FAQ for entries you should try to familiarize. We love to see new writers, so don't be afraid to as for help!

More often than not, the site https://www.fusiondex.org has the current list of approved and ingame entries

About every two weeks, the Dex Manager, Izik, will go through and approve/deny entries based on the guidelines and push out an update, which then gets picked up by the site when its owner, Daena, tells it to

[dry roost]

if you're interested, here's the entry for Togetic, which i've already submitted. Driven by memories of when it was itself weak, this Pokémon fancies itself a protector of the defenseless. It patrols the sky and swoops down to ground level when it espies predation. It relishes bringing happiness to underdogs.

[storm light]

For this sprite, right?https://www.fusiondex.org/togetic+togetic/

[dry roost]

yes

[storm light]

It looks mostly alright, though personally it sounds like the first sentence pertains more to a singular individual's experience (FAQ 9), but i could be wrong. As much as I like the use of rare words like espies, you'll want to consider using more common words as sometimes players, especially children, might not know what the words mean without context clues

[dry roost]

thanks for the feedback. an elevated/literary register seemed appropriate for it since it sorta has a vaguely Grecan or mythic look with the robe. (i first learned the word "espies" from Theodor Adorno's commentary on Plato's Phaedrus haha.) agreed about the point re: experience but i also like it when Pokedex entries underscore an emotional dynamic or give the pokemon interiority or motivations, it's always fun

[storm light]

It is fun to do, but it does have to be something the entire species has done/will do at one point

or at leats most of the species

[dry roost]

what i had in mind was that it was weak when it was togepi, especially because of the self-fused togepi dex entry (It carries a second piece of eggshell with it wherever it goes. This lets Togepi tuck itself into a complete shell, offering it more defense when things get troublesome.)

[crimson ledge]

It sounds like you've put a lot of thought into it, which I really appreciate. That being said, I've got to agree with Chibi's feedback - remember that part of the goal here is to achieve a tone consistent with what would be expected from official dex entries. It's like the standards we have for sprites; you might make an incredible piece of art, but unless it's in the right art style it's not going to fit in.

[storm light]

In that regard, it would hit more with FAQ 7, entries cannot rely on information that is in dex entries of previous/future evolutions as players may or may not have seen them before seeing the one you're making

[dry roost]

yeah, np, i'll take it into mind. altho i think gamefreak does write their dex entries in a basically formal register, it didn't seem too out of place

[storm light]

I think we only use Gamefreak's entries as placeholder and inspiration because sometimes they don't really fit in with the guidelines

[dry roost]

like in the voice of an encyclopedia but slightly more colorful/lively

[dry roost]

interesting..

[crimson ledge]

Yeah, I guess I shouldn't be pointing directly to Game Freak's entries since our standards are slightly different. The point is, your entry is well-written and cool, I just don't think it quite fits those standards yet.

[storm light]

I remember a while back somebody suggested reading your entries in Dexter's or Sir David Attenborough's voice and see how it flows :>

[dry roost]

im also just fond of "literary" words so my entries might lean that way as far as is permissible. i'm a fan of Alexander Theroux novels!

how's this for Bulbaew #1.151: It darts through forests at dizzying speeds, never so much as grazing a tree trunk. While it is the unrivaled master of the untouched wilderness, POKENAME's psychic powers wane and are inhibited wherever humans have made inroads.

[dry roost]

feedback on this (Togefing #176.109), also: Anthropologists note an odd division in opinion on the colorful plumes of smoke POKENAME exudes from its body. Tropical cultures often use its vapors as stimulants to happiness, while cold, northern cultures judge them garish and overbright. Too far afield of an actual description of the mon?

[willow venture]

It reads very nicely from me personally I enjoy the different ways cultures interpret the mon's plumes of smoke

Very fun stuff

[dry roost]

thanks. i might just get addicted to writing these

[crimson ledge]

I'm not sure if it's written anywhere public-facing yet but this was actually something we discussed just recently in the Unown chat; we can't allow entries that imply recreational drug use like this.

[dry roost]

i see.. aw man 😅

[crimson ledge]

Yeah, sorry. It's a fangame, but it is still supposed to be all-ages-appropriate. But I think the rest of the entry is good, you just need to revise that part.

[willow venture]

Oh I completely missed the "stimulants" part lmao

I think that can be fixed up a smidge though the drug part definitely had to go

[dry roost]

unfortunately i already submitted it; may i simply submit a revised entry for the same mon?

[willow venture]

Tropical cultures often use its vapors as medicinal stimulants

Would that work @crimson ledge

[dry roost]

i was thinking id revise it by saying they immerse themselves in the smoke instead

[crimson ledge]

Yes, if the same author submits twice for the same sprite we generally assume it's meant as a revision.

[crimson ledge]

I think that would probably be fine.

[dry roost]

Anthropologists note an odd division in opinion on the colorful plumes of smoke POKENAME exudes from its body. Tropical cultures often use its vapors as joy-bringing medicinal stimulants, while cold, northern cultures judge them garish and overbright?

to retain the happiness aspect

or inhale its vapors for its joy-bringing medicinal traits whatever is less druggy

or analgesic or pain relieving might be better

[willow venture]

Analgesic/pain reliever definitely seems like the best route

[crimson ledge]

It might be simpler to just say/imply that it's laughing gas; keeps the idea of happiness while being more clear how it'd be used medically.

[dry roost]

yeag

too violent? The eggshell fragments that burst forth from its body can be as deadly as bullets. Ignorance regarding this fact on the part of both POKENAME and Pokémon trainers eager to play with them has led to more than its fair share of tragedies.

[willow venture]

I never seen that sprite before omg

I don't think it's violent at all but I know Unown have a firmer grasp on this than others

It's not an explicitly-stated violence after all

[crimson ledge]

Yeah, I think that's fine.

[dry roost]

just to make sure, is an entry that mentions an unfused species like this in accordance with the lore or etc: While Xatu are trusted to see the future, but to the frustration of those who would use them for worldly gain, are recalcitrant to part with this knowledge, POKENAME eagerly tries to convey its premonitions, but seems guided by blind optimism alone. also is it fine to have an entry mostly premised on this sort of comparison

[dapper cedar]

three things

1. mentioning other pokemon species in a dex entry is fine. your entry doesnt do this, but as a heads up, if you mention something like a different fusion species, be sure to make it explicit what the fusion is rather than using its fused name (example: mantyke + mankey just becomes Mankey, impossible to tell the difference between it, regular Mankey, a mantine + mankey fusion, etc etc.)
2. is "recalcitrant" a word i've never heard before, or did you mean "reluctant"? if a word's too niche and the average reader wouldnt be able to parse what it means, in most cases its better to use a more recognizable synonym.
3. you can't submit dex entries for fusions that have auto-genned sprites, aka they don't have a hand-made sprite yet. you can check either of the two resources im about to link, if a fusion has a gray background, that means the sprite is auto-genned and not applicable for an entry until someone makes a custom sprite for it.

?tag calc

[upper loom]

No tag calc found.

[dapper cedar]

?tag calcs

[upper loom]

These are our two officially supported Fusion Calculators. Please remember that Tech Support cannot help with any issues on the fusion calculators! If you are having issues or have questions, go to Infinite Dex Thread or Fusiondex Thread depending on which site you are using!

https://infinitefusiondex.com/: Good for looking at stats, locations, movesets, and type matchups, as well as looking at the inverse fusions side-by-side.

https://www.fusiondex.org/: Good for looking at sprites and fusion names. Also includes stats, but no comparisons.

[dry roost]

i see, thanks. i consider recalcitrant a normal word, but maybe reluctant would be better (although i preferred recalcitrant bc it evinces Xatu looking down its nose (beak?) at lowly humans etc). moot point in any case since it lacks a custom sprite

[dapper cedar]

no sweat. i got nothing against the word and maybe im just out of the loop, but feel like that's a word choice that might cause a snag with an Unown approving it. at worst, they'd probably just replace it their self as a minor edit before approving it if it did prove an issue.

[dry roost]

do you suppose it's ok if i submit (basically) the same entry but with this guy? like they'll see the duplicate and understand that i'm reusing the entry because i want it to apply to this fusion instead whereas first fusion was ineligible, right?

[olive ermine]

Reluctant probably fits your sentence better. Reluctance is more capable but unwilling. Recalcitrant is more of a stubborn resistance to authority generally.

Looking for an assist to get characters down. On this one.

Mareep-Riolu 179.384
During physical activity its fur coat generates a static charge that is stored under the skin. Attempted research of how the charge is stored has failed as it can become so strong it generates a field or “aura” that disrupts nearby sensitive electronics.

I feel second sentence doesn’t read quite right without specifying “research attempts” but I’m just over characters

[dry roost]

i didn't like how reluctant sounded because it makes the Togetu sound specifically interested/motivated like they're penny-pinching. but i think recalcitrant isn't right either. ...the word i wanted was reticent!

[olive ermine]

Yeah it can. In th context of it being reluctant to people after worldly gain the connotations are more similar to reticent meaning

But it’s your entry and they both work so follow your heart

[dry roost]

oops, the one i submitted has another error (POKENAME enthusiastically conveys its predictions, but are[sic] guided by blind optimism alone) oh well they'll catch it 😅 ... it's late

decided it's better to submit a correction, and did so. sorry to whoever goes through these that i first submitted multiple erroneous ones before getting both the fusion and the wording right. good night

[willow venture]

I say the entry you wrote makes sense so go for it

[willow venture]

• Aura is a canonical term in the Pokemon world (see: Riolu, Lucario) so you can go ahead and ditch the "quotes" imo
• Since the research going into it has failed, you can take away 'attempted' in the first sentence.
• Speaking of, "research in how the charge is stored" would make the sentence a bit tighter/flows better imo

Very good ideas otherwise though

[hexed fog]

We will automatically fix minor grammar issues in the approval process

[hollow quartz]

I love this sprite--peak "no thoughts behind those eyes" energy

[halcyon seal]

"When it looks into its own eyes in the mirror, it stares emptily into the abyss, without fear, feeling nothing..."

[hollow nimbus]

*manually
We will manually fix minor grammar issues for you

[robust pike]

the work of an unown is never finished...

[final bison]

for real

[hollow quartz]

You might even say that their workload is...

Un[kn]own

[robust pike]

[final bison]

If only there was a position open for Unown to help them (...)

[robust pike]

haha there is, but having 10 approved entries is a prerequisites! (which is perfectly logical)

[halcyon seal]

Ima be so real. Like 10% of this chat whenever I open it is someone making a pun or corny joke

And to be clear, I’m for it. I contribute.

[unkempt plinth]

I am just lurking, but i wait the corny joke from you. And i will lurking around this chat, for see one, now

[halcyon seal]

Why do we call it infinite fusion when there is a finite number of fusions?

Checkmate gamedevs

[pale venture]

You can fuse and unfuse infinitely. The Pokemon are not the referred to Infinite Fusions, the mechanic to fuse is

[halcyon seal]

Holy hell.

[pale venture]

There's even an item that lets you fuse infinitely

[halcyon seal]

The fact the description for that doesn’t say it can be used “infinite times” is a tragedy

Of Greek proportions

[pale venture]

Real

[hexed fog]

[dusty hound]

Registeel/Hitmonlee #449.106

POKENAME is often mistaken for a statue as it remains remains perfectly still while charging its energy. It then uses its metallic spring legs to leap high into the air, crashing down with enough force to cause earthquakes.

[rich goblet]

In case no one said anything, this is pretty solid

The smallest nitpick is I would use 'springy, metallic legs' but that is like so small

[dusty hound]

[hexed fog]

Yea the idea is sound

[hollow nimbus]

The lorebook has been updated!

We've added some more information to the PIF Lorebook to help guide you with your efforts. Do be sure to read the whole thing, but here are the summaries of the newly documented information:

• Reminder that entries have to come from server members. When you join the server, you agree to follow server rules. Accepting the rules is important.
• Expanded guide on what qualifies as NSFW in entries
• Spaaaaaaaace! (There's no Pokémon living on the moon)
• If you can explain it with "Pokémon magic", we can suspend our disbelief. It needs to still make sense, though.
• Technology and cyberspace are also governed by this suspension of disbelief
• Fusions shouldn't supposedly kill the player instantly. Among other guidelines, don't exceed 5,000 F temperature for expelled heat.
• Variations and alts for fusions canonically co-exist! You'll even be able to see them side-by-side in PIFH.
• Obscure questions: No, you cannot fuse the fossils themselves, and yes, mushrooms can still cause hallucinations.

This message won't stay pinned forever, so make sure to read up when you have time

[willow venture]

You may not submit any Game Freak entries, auto-spliced entries, writing from other authors, or computer-generated entries of any kind.

Maybe I'm opening up a Pandora's Box but did you guys find out among the authors who wrote with AI-generated entries?

For that rule to come up now

[crimson ledge]

As far as I know it hasn't happened yet.

[thorn ingot]

I think it was just included as a general rule

Might as well include it since it’s still a rule they want to have

[willow venture]

I see I see

[storm light]

oh god there wewre generatewd entries??

[willow venture]

Apparently it hasn't yet (which is great)

Btw Firefox got a new feature that allows you to merge two tabs into one split tab together and oooohhhh this is a gamechanger

Whenever I wrote entries I tend to look at their base dex entries as a comparison point/baseline and this really changes up the game

[thorn ingot]

I do that always when making entries

And it’s why Clefable sucks because it has almost nothing good going for it

[narrow cosmos]

I feel there's a lot of Pokemon that sadly don't have a strong gimmick that aids in creating a fusion's profile.

[thorn ingot]

True but so characteristics are really strong that they can be fit and expanded well

Clefable is moon (really weird to fit) and hearing (situational)

[crimson ledge]

I went to Clefable's page on Bulbapedia to prove you wrong give you some ideas, and wow, she's just like me

[cunning sluice]

Love this one, good job👏

[cunning sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/you-and-i-are-not-so-different-raimi-meme-green-goblin-spiderman-gif-20908369

[crimson ledge]

But for real, I feel like Clefable does have other things you can work with. It's reclusive and rare to the point that seeing one is supposed to be a good omen.

[jagged ledge]

Nidoran...

[storm light]

Nearly any of the legendaries/mythicals

[jagged ledge]

Well then the problem is also that people start overestimating them. "This Caterpie can explode an entire planet just because it's fused with Groudon."

[willow venture]

I mean you can also take the basis of its preevos since they are basically in the same generational line

Space and moon is a strong theme to work with for Clefable fusions

[willow venture]

Anyway you can probably guess what I'm writing from that screenshot I posted

POKENAME flies only during the solar noon, otherwise it prefers to lazily lay on the shores. Smelling like a freshly cut coconut, those around it will find themselves feeling relaxed and calm from the ambient, relaxing tune coming from its big ears.```

[final bison]

i do the same!!

[robust pike]

I'm just discovering "solar noon" is a thing oO

[robust pike]

I'd suggest a synonym

soothing ?

[willow venture]

I'll take that

[robust pike]

^^

[willow venture]

Yeeeeeeeee

[robust pike]

otherwish, looks good to me !

[willow venture]

Guessing you use Firefox as well and found this out lol

[final bison]

i really like the concept, i don't have any other suggestions to give you

since the synonym part was already mentioned

[cunning sluice]

First time I hear about "solar noon"😆

[final bison]

same, had to google it, but it's nice to discover new things every day

i mean, i'm familiar with a lot of astronomical terms in my main language, but i'm totally unaware of their equivalents

[willow venture]

It's always lovely to discover new things through google

Did you know the official fan term for sound manipulation is "sonokinesis"

I was almost gonna use that for Exegguvern but I think I'm gonna use it for another Noivern fuse later

[cunning sluice]

Aren't you supposed to use words that can easily be understood by everyone?

[halcyon seal]

bruh playing Inifinite Fusion is gonna literally teach me nuclear fusion gradually if we keep getting more and more scientifically correct

[willow venture]

That's the best part!

[thorn ingot]

That’s worse, now it’s not even unique from the others

[willow venture]

Yeah but you said that Clefable sucks because there's not a lot you can take from it so like

You gotta do what you gotta do

[thorn ingot]

Well no because then you can’t make them unique it’s not as good anymore

[halcyon seal]

I think another good place to look for lore and ideas would be other games and shows that the pokemon appears in if you need ideas. Not just mainline games' dex entries and such

[azure wagon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G4o03ialQnkVa5a1CVl81gwAof_s3x7G0BrZqjuXG9o/edit?usp=sharing

Hello writers! Here's your sheet for April's Dexchallenge! 🌷 💐 I hope everyone's excited for the spring themed prompts! 🌸 🌼

[willow venture]

It's not april yet!!!! (looks awesome tho)

[azure wagon]

Included some holidays...Prankster for April Fools, Rock Type for Earth Day, Wood for Arbor Day

[rugged socket]

DexSlog Grid #5: Fantasy - 50/100 entries! 🎉 If you haven't tried it yet, come and help fill in the grid!

Get involved here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eEDisY-UaS44v_kBY8tNA4qmVEP6fToEKTzBPN_bcro/edit?usp=sharing

[final bison]

Hello there!! I have a small question about the DexSlog Grid (because i'm very anxious and I'm terrified of doing everything wrong )

before adding a description to the grid, do I have to post the entry on the server and discuss it with other members? Or can I fill in the grid once the entry is ready, once the spot has been claimed in the appropriate section?

[dusty hound]

Registeel/Hitmonchan #449.107

Trainers often mistake POKENAME for an inanimate object, using it to train their Pokémon like it is a punching bag. However, it can suddenly retaliate with a lighting-fast jab, often knocking opponents out before they can react.

[rugged socket]

Completely up to you! It can be fun to post them here, but there's no requirement

[final bison]

tysm!

and also, thanks for the initiative, I've always found it super cute, so I'm really happy to be able to try to help completing the grid this time

[rich goblet]

@rugged socket I need to insert the image for Anorith/Wants to Evolve but it doesn't seem to want to take an image link, how do I fix that? https://www.fusiondex.org/anorith+lileep/

[final bison]

if you want ducky, i can try to paste it for you within the grid!

[rich goblet]

Oh, please do! I don't know why it doesn't work on my end 😅

[final bison]

done!

i'll add the note too

the description is adorable, tho

[hollow nimbus]

-# We have found ai-generated entries before, but not recently
We wanted to make sure it was somewhere a bit more visible since some people honestly think that they are "helping" by having ai generate images or text to be submitted to the game
The use of ai is plagiarism, both because it takes without permission and because you are claiming that the computer-generated data is your personal creation

[rich goblet]

@hollow nimbus Probably should have asked this sooner, but are vague gestures to environmental groups okay?

[hollow nimbus]

What do you mean by that

[rich goblet]

I recently did a couple of entries where I talk about environmental groups wanting to put up speed limits and scent traps to avoid Pokémon getting run over

Let me just show one of the entries I made 😅

A POKENAME's biggest threat isn't a predator, but the allure of bright lights from cars. Many environmental groups have proposed limiting speed limits to minimize harm to both people and Pokémon.