showdown-general

[radiant rivet]

Please tell me it loses 50 percent

[hexed umbra]

Magic Guard doesn't effect Belly Drum/Substitute/Pain Split

[tropic path]

My big boss cup team will most likely be bad but it can be so funny when playing

[odd kiln]

theres like two freeze dry mons

[radiant rivet]

Yes but that doesnt chage the fact they are an issue for Water

and the only way A water mon could become neutral against Freeze dry is becoming part Steel or Fire.
Which makes you weak to the best offensive type in the game : Ground.

I am not saying Water is bad, but I am saying that Water might be such a common choice that people will prep extensivly against it.

Who will prep against Ice?

[odd kiln]

you dont need to prep against ice you just load steels and youre good

[radiant rivet]

Steels are tasked with handling so much already. Not to mention if your Some of the best Steel Dual fusion dont even resist Ice. (Steel flying, Steel Dragon, Steel Grass). Also Steel has the same problem Water has, its strenght isnt a secret

[odd kiln]

ur talking about the freezedryers who have 95 max spa

doesnt matter if they dont resist youre not breaking through steel grass regenvest with freeze dry

[radiant rivet]

ok that is a fair point

but ice in general? I can see it working

[odd kiln]

not with this dire of a mon pool

[radiant rivet]

Weavile mamo and kyurem are all good mons. and auroros can run espeed fusions with refrigarate

[odd kiln]

you have to take the 77/58 physical offense of aurorus

[radiant rivet]

cloyster and regice I am uncertain of

[odd kiln]

kyurem has no physical ice stab

weavile has to rely on ice punch

[radiant rivet]

yes they have shortcomings

But I wouldnt say they are unwinnable

or rather beyond redemption

[odd kiln]

when you have no atk as the worst defensive typing you dont have a chance

[radiant rivet]

then you can run it as a hail setter

100% acc blizz are good

[odd kiln]

pales in comparison to what sun/rain get

[radiant rivet]

and you forgot froslass and jynx

yes

[odd kiln]

froslass is terrible

[radiant rivet]

why?

[odd kiln]

no atk

[radiant rivet]

frail sure

that can be fixed

[radiant rivet]

My main point isnt that hail is the best weather, but rather that sun and rain will suffer from success by spreading awareness of its strenght, giving hail the chance to perform an underdog role

nvm I take all back

[odd kiln]

even if ur aware of how strong sun is ur still 100% losing the sun mu

[radiant rivet]

I keep forgetting just how hard weather mons hit

what type do you see capable of winning the tournament?

[odd kiln]

water, steel, fairy, fire

[radiant rivet]

not ground?

[odd kiln]

ground maybe

[radiant rivet]

and fairy does have a similar problem too ice, there are few good mons

[odd kiln]

the difference is the fairy mons are good

[radiant rivet]

that is notable, but the problem still stands that fairy cant really even fill 6 slots

[odd kiln]

clef sylveon togekiss whimsicott klefki gardevoir/mimikyu/granbull

[radiant rivet]

I agree on clef sylveon togekiss and guardevoir

but klef and whim kinda steal each others role

[tribal trellis]

wut

[odd kiln]

no whimsicott is just a speed passer for a high spa mon

[radiant rivet]

oh wow I didnt know that

I am suprised whimiscotts, questionable Spa doesnt get transfered

[tribal trellis]

?

[radiant rivet]

I am probably missremembering, but wasnt it the case that te head part transfers speed spa and spd, while the Body transfers HP Def and Attack ?

[tribal trellis]

nope

it's hp/spA/spD

[radiant rivet]

ah

that explains a lot

[radiant rivet]

I am starting to realise how completly game breaking Fusion is for Monotype :

Usually, certain Types couldnt handle other types well or even at all, (Dragon had to use Dragalge to have a chance against fairys and perfore Gen 9 Normal couldnt have a fighting immunity)
But with fusion pretty much any dual type is available meaning Types starved for options got a lot stronger.

To be fair Types who were already good kind of got even more tools to work with.
But I do think that the difference between the Teams has been reduced because of the increase in options.

[vital sand]

Me a casual 1400 elo man watching people getting serious over the meta while I use meme trick room team

[hexed umbra]

The good news is the doubles tournament is soon, and trick room is usually good with trick room

[vital sand]

[viscid hollow]

How do you do a showdown battle?

[radiant rivet]

against a random opponent or a specific one?

[manic sand]

Hey y’all, the next season of my infinite fusion draft league is starting up soon and we’d love to get some more players! We are open to players of all skills levels, and we are running a natdex doubles OU format this time around. If you are interested, dm me and I can get you the server link!

[hushed pelican]

How do I play the showdown for infinite fusion

[hexed umbra]

First pin in this channel

[vital sand]

Do you think for the big boss format people are just going to use Pseudo legends?

[gritty anvil]

I've been thinking about this. The general strategies I think are most viable:

• Pick something with relatively high BST, like pseudos, and just rely on high speed and attack to overpower stuff
• Pick something with a very strong ability, like Regenerator, to make up for lower BSTs (stall?)
• Try to make weather work by using Vulpix or setting it manually
• Prioritize a very strong fusion for Big Boss and use the rest of the team as fodder/support (v risky)

[odd kiln]

pseudos dont have good nfes though

wow shiny new icon

[shut shard]

what's nfe again?

[odd kiln]

not fully evolved

[gritty anvil]

Yeah, I guess realistically the strongest NFEs are the ones that got cross-gen evolutions. Dusclops and so on.

I imagine single stage pokemon will be in high demand as fusion material, Dusclops/Skarmory might be able to tank quite a bit

[shut shard]

for singles or doubles?

[odd kiln]

btw @pure breach gotta implement an extra rule that the grunts bst cant be higher than the boss bst

[gritty anvil]

Big Boss format, singles only I believe

[shut shard]

what's this big boss format for? I haven't been keeping up with IF showdown

[pure breach]

Wah

[odd kiln]

fusion day tours

winner gets to add a mon to the exclusive vote

[shut shard]

what's that

[pure breach]

Oh hey we have role icons

Cool

[odd kiln]

#announcements message

[shut shard]

oh man

idk there were tourneys

[gritty anvil]

The pool of decent NFEs to build a team around is small enough that I was thinking about trying to predict what people would do, but I just don't have the meta knowledge for that. Inevitably I'll get rolled by some very strong interaction I didn't know existed

[shut shard]

is it too late to join dna doubles?

[odd kiln]

no bc it hasnt happened yet

[shut shard]

how do I register?

[gritty anvil]

If the tournament hasn't started yet, you can join. Just need to be in the Showdown lobby before it starts

[shut shard]

or do I just need to show up?

[odd kiln]

just show up

[shut shard]

oh cool

[gritty anvil]

Anaconja, any Big Boss advice for a competitive newcomer? Although I understand not wanting to reveal your secrets

[shut shard]

how do I show up?... do I just like wait in pokeathlon till something shows up or what?

I haven't been in a tourney

[odd kiln]

idk i havent played a game so i cant say

[shut shard]

is mew a legendary?

[gritty anvil]

Technically Mew is a mythical pokemon, which is a distinct group from legendaries (although English media just called them all legendaries until Gen 5). For teambuilding purposes they're basically the same though.

[shut shard]

thought so

[manic sand]

We are currently looking for 4 more players! If you are interested please dm me!

[manic sand]

Down to 2 spots

[shut shard]

anyone else's showdown not loading?

[vital sand]

mine works fine

[rough palm]

I'm in no prob

[hushed pelican]

How do I play the showdown?

[rough palm]

?tag showdown

[frosty yarrow]

Infinite Fusions Showdown Server : https://play.pokeathlon.com/

[vital sand]

[hexed umbra]

Cheering for Activate Windows, I hope they win

[vital sand]

Shut lol

what do they doing

Are they finally gonna ban some moves

[hexed umbra]

I doubt they would ban moves 12 hours before a tournament

[tribal trellis]

Yea this is prepping for the tournament probably

[pure breach]

Nah we gonna flip the whole format on its head a few hours before the tournament trust

[tribal trellis]

TRUST

[hexed umbra]

We're actually making every pokemon illegal except the 5 evolution lines currently in the second poll 30 minutes before the tournament starts

[vital sand]

wow personal training huh smh

I don't have anyone to train my team

anaconja gonna win again

[hexed umbra]

I don't think Anaconja has doubles experience (Stall isnt viable in doubles)

...though I have been proven wrong before

[vital sand]

I think they do

@small mortar how do you change pfp again?

[tribal trellis]

i can confirm ana has played doubles before

[obtuse shoal]

I just realized
If togekiss gets fused with an electric type with discharge
I can spread para, while also having air slash

[pure breach]

Pair with Raichu for good fun

[obtuse shoal]

Why raichu and not jolteon

[vital sand]

Thanks for the idea

[pure breach]

Raichu provides better support, but you can go Jolteon for full offense

[obtuse shoal]

I mean
It's prob been there for a while

[vital sand]

tbh i just havent thought of it

[obtuse shoal]

I thought of discharge lava plume and of course scald almost immediately when I saw togekiss

But it's weird that electric types are a bit rare here

Besides alakode you don't really see them much

[hexed umbra]

Ground types are very common and are even better because their one weakness of no recovery except Gliscor is mitigated due to gliscor

[vital sand]

Haha earthquake go [Ally fainted] [Enemy focus sash activated]

[rough palm]

Made the team whenever you'd want to practice a lil

[vital sand]

sure hold on

[shut shard]

THE CLIENT ISN'T LOADING FOR ME FOR SOME REASON????

Every time I got to the website it gets stuck on loading the client

Even on my phone it won't load

Am I cursed or something???

It fixed itself

[obtuse shoal]

Hippowdon has been a thing for a time

[shut shard]

It broke again

[small mortar]

You do /avatar [sprite-name]

[odd kiln]

most electrics are bad

[shut shard]

4 hours left huh?

[obtuse shoal]

Not disagreeing, but I don't see it as one of the worst types though, it's not psychic

[cobalt panther]

anyone practicing doubles rn

[shut shard]

I am, but i'm tweaking my team atm

[obtuse shoal]

I can be there with you in half an hour

[shut shard]

you still practicing doubles rn?

[sly gulch]

what format is dna doubles? i cant find it to make sure my team is legal

[odd kiln]

its doubles ou

[sly gulch]

oh ok thx

team is valid im hyped

[shut shard]

how do I join the tournament??? no one answered my question

[thin schooner]

It'll open up on the :30 mark

AKA 6 mins

[shut shard]

thank you

[fallow nexus]

gen 7 or gen 9? assuming gen 7 but jic

[thin schooner]

7

[fallow nexus]

aight sweet

[sly gulch]

here goes nothin

[shut shard]

literally just made this team, hope it does well...

[sly gulch]

same

[sly gulch]

well my round 1 in the tour was the most bs thing. like 3 of my pokemon never got to attack because they kept getting outsped and flinched by rockslide

[shut shard]

that's rough

[sly gulch]

like nothing i could do as and the 1 time i didnt get flinched by rockslide i got frozen by blizzard it suckes

[true wedge]

Well I got out immediately so might as well post some cool stuff I found now that I won't be able to use it lol

Also Instruct is really, really good and idk how many people have caught onto that.

[cobalt panther]

this whole tournament shouldn't count lmao

no species clause ruins it

[shut shard]

i'm not taking advantage of it

[cobalt panther]

yeah well some people are abusing it

so not very fun

for those of us who aren't

[true wedge]

I had no idea it was gone until this tournament tbh

[sly gulch]

its also not fun when after the battle where you get flinched like 10 times in a row and frozen by blizzard the opponent tells you the more skilled player won

[cobalt panther]

its only gone for this tournament UNINTENTIONALLY

[true wedge]

Well yeah ik, I just didn't realize in the days leading up lol

[hexed umbra]

Its not in the entire ladder

They didnt just turn it off for the tournament

[spring sparrow]

Hello there

[hexed umbra]

Yep, theres no species clause. Have fun with this terrible team that happens to have 3 Poryverns
https://pokepast.es/db4e7639e5f94811

[shut shard]

Man, I wish doubles tournaments happened more often

[obtuse shoal]

alright

so the tournament is kind of over

so which pokemon did you choose

[opaque inlet]

Give me a sec to think

[odd kiln]

id go mienshao here

[glossy zealot]

Id go gorgeist or liligant

[pure breach]

Mienshao and Golisopod would be cool

[odd kiln]

I Agree.

[pure breach]

Golisopod also has crazy design potential

[tribal trellis]

if i won i would have gone goliospod

weird sand rush thing

[shut shard]

SAME

[glossy zealot]

More prankster mons would be good too

[odd kiln]

if i knew that i wouldve threw

[tribal trellis]

should've thrown anyways for bug abuse

[pure breach]

I would've gone Incin in honor of the tour, if that's even allowed

[tribal trellis]

nah im jk

[odd kiln]

not allowed

[tribal trellis]

i don't think that's allowed ye

[pure breach]

starters I assume?

[tribal trellis]

but it's fun remaking incin on fusions

i had like 4 different ones

[hexed umbra]

No starters, legendaries, mythical or UBs

[pure breach]

gotcha

[obtuse shoal]

what about bronzong?

[odd kiln]

cringezong

[shut shard]

man

[pure breach]

Bronzong isn't a bad pick

I like Bronz

[shut shard]

I just wanted golisopod...

[pure breach]

would be a great pick

[tribal trellis]

everyone wanted goliospod it seems

@opaque inlet take goliospod

[obtuse shoal]

golisopod clefable comes in, uses wish and leaves

[glossy zealot]

I think He shouldnt be presurred tô pick anything

He won

[pure breach]

you're right

[glossy zealot]

Goli is cool thou

[shut shard]

was gonna say

[pure breach]

they should be pressured

[shut shard]

it'd be nice if it was goli

[tribal trellis]

they should be

[pure breach]

https://tenor.com/view/golisopod-golisopodthegoat-gif-25172614

[tribal trellis]

i feel scammed on my sand rush

[obtuse shoal]

how abotu rotom heat

[tribal trellis]

prob would've won

[pure breach]

any mon would be cool tho

probably

[shut shard]

but ultimately it's not our descision

[pure breach]

very few bad mons

[obtuse shoal]

nah, I had swift swim water spout

[tribal trellis]

and?

[glossy zealot]

I MISSPELLED

[tribal trellis]

the sand rush was a 1 time thing

[obtuse shoal]

you wouldn't be able to come in

speaking of sand rush

[tribal trellis]

i start out

btw

[obtuse shoal]

what about drill

[tribal trellis]

drill doesn't matter

sandslash is better

[opaque inlet]

Drill just worse sandslash

[obtuse shoal]

drill was what got sand rush banned no?

tbf drill doesn't have thousand arrows

[glossy zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/mine-he-he-he-funny-memes-gif-25060533

"I chose landorius terian"

[odd kiln]

banned in gen 5 which is completely irrelevant to this meta

[hexed umbra]

This would be really funny to say to someone to doesn't know IF

Excadrill is just worse Sandslash

[odd kiln]

other way around

[tribal trellis]

ye other way lol

u are the gen 5

player

[hexed umbra]

shhhh nothing happened

[obtuse shoal]

but still sandslash isn't that frequent

[tribal trellis]

lol

[odd kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[tribal trellis]

fr

[shut shard]

shut up

i mean

[pure breach]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-garrys-mod-garrys-mod-physics-fast-intense-gif-26322619

[shut shard]

what message

[obtuse shoal]

honestly, I think the most op mon this game was... mimikyu

[shut shard]

I thought about using mimikyu

[obtuse shoal]

i didn't know it would recover the disguise EVERY SWITCH

[shut shard]

but I thought it was too gimicky

[tribal trellis]

ye it had fun sleeping

[obtuse shoal]

WHAT EVEN WAS THAT

[shut shard]

wait how did it recover disguise???

I missed most of it

[tribal trellis]

switch

[pure breach]

in Infinite Fusion, disguise resets on switch out

[hexed umbra]

HUH

[shut shard]

WHAT

[hexed umbra]

OH NO

[pure breach]

(if you're still at max HP I think?)

[shut shard]

WHY??????

[opaque inlet]

Who’s idea was it to give whimscott spore

[obtuse shoal]

EXACTLY

[odd kiln]

no it works at any hp

[pure breach]

oh really

[shut shard]

BRUH

[pure breach]

damnb

[tribal trellis]

i do not know but it's super broken

[pure breach]

also an IF thing

[hexed umbra]

Time to add Mimikyu to my volt-turn stall team

[shut shard]

I swear, first permanent weather and now this?

[pure breach]

this has been here since before permaweather

[obtuse shoal]

the reason bruxish was there is probably entirely due to whimsicott's spore

[pure breach]

just no one knew

no

Bruxish was there mostly for fake out

at least from me

[hexed umbra]

Anti-priority is always wanted

[pure breach]

yeah

[obtuse shoal]

ye

[shut shard]

I had the perfect counter to prankster spore

[pure breach]

especially without Dark immunity

[obtuse shoal]

especially because of whim's spore

[shut shard]

without a dark type btw

i used it against boshi

only worked once tho

[hexed umbra]

I used Quick Guard

[odd kiln]

speaking of dark if showdown is bugged in that dark mons are immune to spore when they shouldnt be

[pure breach]

I saw the quick guard, that was nice

[hexed umbra]

Immune to Prankster

[obtuse shoal]

Quick guard was amazing

[pure breach]

??

elaborate

[odd kiln]

dark being vulnerable to prank is also an if feature

[shut shard]

psychic terrain is underrated af

[obtuse shoal]

wait what?

[hexed umbra]

Hard to set for not too much reward

[odd kiln]

@feral anchor said this before i believe

[tribal trellis]

LMAO

[obtuse shoal]

anaconja dropping the most game changing lore like it's nothing

[shut shard]

did you know prankster still works with status moves in psychic terrain as long as the move doesn't target foes?

[tribal trellis]

my dark type whimsicott should've lost

[feral anchor]

yes

[obtuse shoal]

yeah

[pure breach]

wait is that not happening correctly on the showdown?

[odd kiln]

it is not

[hexed umbra]

Can someone help me test that?

[obtuse shoal]

is mimikyu also this broken in singles?

[pure breach]

so dark types currently block prankster?

[odd kiln]

no bc disguise is banned

[obtuse shoal]

good thing it is

[shut shard]

forgot the important part of my message

[feral anchor]

proof here btw

[obtuse shoal]

btw rudi what did you think of my team

oh yeah, shout out to chansey cofagrigus
180 100 100 defenses, and you can even put eviolite on it

[pure breach]

mind posting a bug report, since I won't get to it today

[hexed umbra]

Can someone help me test in Showdown?

[shut shard]

I told you already, but the water spout combo is honestly broken if you go against non-tanky pokemon

which is rare

[opaque inlet]

Or against spore

[shut shard]

that too

[odd kiln]

did u pick a mon

[obtuse shoal]

if I had toed out I could have used quick guard

but yeah, didn't think of dazzling

[feral anchor]

as you wish

[shut shard]

quick guard is like a band-aid solution, I like my solution

[obtuse shoal]

what was your solution?

[opaque inlet]

Am I allowed to pick paradox mons btw

[odd kiln]

no

[pure breach]

I believe they have to be gen 7 or less

[odd kiln]

must be gen 7 or before, no legends/mythicals/starters

[obtuse shoal]

prob kommo-o

[pure breach]

No UB either

[glossy zealot]

Nothing above gen 7

[obtuse shoal]

we need more gen7s

[odd kiln]

think that gets lumped into legends anyway

[feral anchor]

gen 7, no starters/legendary/mythicals

[hexed umbra]

Can someone help me test if Prankster works against dark types in Showdown?

[obtuse shoal]

florges

but yeah, I vote bronzong

[shut shard]

this

[glossy zealot]

Gourgeist

[obtuse shoal]

ah yes psychic terrain

pretty good

I really should have used bruxish

[shut shard]

I could use terrain extender, but i'm worried about it getting one shot

[hexed umbra]

Can you even get a terrain extender in-game?

[shut shard]

idk

still valid with it

[glossy zealot]

People that care about showdown should consider mons with unique competitivo moves or abilities

Tô pick

[shut shard]

yeah but, pokemon lied to me

[tribal trellis]

so goliospod

nice

goliospod ez choice

[shut shard]

is it actually goli?

or are you just saying that?

[odd kiln]

itd be a v useful mon in comp

[tribal trellis]

im saying goliospod is an ez choice

[shut shard]

it is, but it's up to the winner

who gets picked

[tribal trellis]

ye should've been me i lost to a bug

[shut shard]

shoulda been me if I hadn't brain farted

[hexed umbra]

It should've been me, I used 3 Porygon-z/Noiverns and have never played IF doubles before today smh

[shut shard]

I thought that combo was banned?

[hexed umbra]

Not in doubles, nothing is banned in doubles

[tribal trellis]

singles isn't doubles

[tribal trellis]

nah we we got huge power pure power

ez

[shut shard]

another reason doubles is better

[tribal trellis]

and thick blub

[shut shard]

you're allowed to have fun

[hexed umbra]

Prankster spore

[obtuse shoal]

There was a guy using 6 mimikyus

[tribal trellis]

when prankster works on dark tpyes

im afraid it's not goona be much fun anymore

[shut shard]

prankster psychic terrain

[obtuse shoal]

I should have used follow me mimikyu

[shut shard]

a gimick can only take you so far

[obtuse shoal]

Yeah

Perish song shadow tag chandelier didn't actually work

[vital sand]

the thing is its Bo1 so we can never counter

We can only make educated guess based on other people

[obtuse shoal]

Yeah

[shut shard]

I would focus on making that shadow tag combo support your offensive pokemon

[vital sand]

Speaking of uhh

have fun with this

[tribal trellis]

it did

get better

[shut shard]

I wanted trick room to work so badly

[obtuse shoal]

Eh

[tribal trellis]

ye this isn't that good yk

[obtuse shoal]

Shuriken just does too little damage

[shut shard]

but ultimately there were too many combos literally just better than trick room

[obtuse shoal]

I do like to use zoroark, but more as a surprise sucker punch

[vital sand]

I'ma make it work for the shits and giggles

[tribal trellis]

i already swept people with water shuriken

[shut shard]

the dice

[tribal trellis]

it's not that good

[shut shard]

so

[obtuse shoal]

What's the next type?

Game?

Monotype right

[shut shard]

do they say what the winner picked or are we just never gonna know?

[obtuse shoal]

Can't wait for everyone to think steel or fairy would win but it's actually ice

[tribal trellis]

lmao

[obtuse shoal]

Gen 5 won last time so there you go

And I thought gen 2 or gen 1 or 4 would win

[tribal trellis]

ok and?

[odd kiln]

big boss

[tribal trellis]

if i had to guess gen 5 would be either my first or my second guess

[shut shard]

I made a big boss team

wait is it singles or doubles for big boss?

[obtuse shoal]

I'm saying some times it's not the ones who you'd think would win that actually win

How that mode work

[tribal trellis]

do u also have alot of teams for big boss?

[odd kiln]

several

[tribal trellis]

ye im saying i thought gen 5 would win

[tribal trellis]

hmmm

well hf

prob not goona join anymore sadly

lost to a massive crit and a bug?

[vital sand]

Fuck no water type has technician

[obtuse shoal]

Yeah floatzel is not here

[tribal trellis]

what

[obtuse shoal]

Floatzel doesn't have technician?

[odd kiln]

no

[vital sand]

no

[shut shard]

is it singles or doubles for big boss????

[vital sand]

Singles

[shut shard]

oh

I need to redo my entire team

[obtuse shoal]

How does big boss work

[tribal trellis]

no more doubles

[obtuse shoal]

Is it dynamaxed?

[glossy zealot]

did the winner already chose?

[shut shard]

no

HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO TAKE

[glossy zealot]

let the guy decide in his time

and let not pressure him onto something

[shut shard]

i know

[glossy zealot]

except if its gougeist

[odd kiln]

no lets peer pressure

[shut shard]

didn't we already do that?

man I golisopod

[glossy zealot]

ok i dont care much about if showdown but what are the cool abilities that we dont have yet

that are good in ou

[shut shard]

emergency exit

that are gen 7

or below

[glossy zealot]

would a castform fusion be good enough for a ou team

[shut shard]

probably not

[glossy zealot]

too low of stats i assume

[odd kiln]

its not a good gimmick even

[shut shard]

what isn't added yet?

[odd kiln]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message

note that bubble and comatose would instantly be banned

[shut shard]

do we not have lycanroc dusk?

[odd kiln]

no

[obtuse shoal]

We dont?

[shut shard]

we dont

that's my second choice

[obtuse shoal]

So the no guard is midnight

[odd kiln]

idt lycandusk would poll well

bc it looks too similar to lycanroc

[shut shard]

you don't know that

[obtuse shoal]

Ye

[shut shard]

it's orange

[obtuse shoal]

He's right

[shut shard]

and cool

[obtuse shoal]

We have the other stone doggos

[odd kiln]

thats not interesting to spriters

[obtuse shoal]

What about rotom heat

Eh

Good for competitive
Bad for spriters

[odd kiln]

youd have to ask if rotom formes can be added

[shut shard]

well if it isn't golisopod, guess I NEED to win the next one

[glossy zealot]

i hope not

[shut shard]

that just seems like a lot of work

[obtuse shoal]

Tbf rotom forms sound hard to make designs for

[shut shard]

when did IF come out again?

[obtuse shoal]

What about... Conk

[odd kiln]

too similar to machamp

[obtuse shoal]

Tru

[shut shard]

what

how

[odd kiln]

slow monofighting guts

[obtuse shoal]

Bruh

[shut shard]

other than that

[obtuse shoal]

Evolves by trade

[glossy zealot]

cokeldur is a good pick nice for showdown and okay for spriters

[obtuse shoal]

Besides
We have both golem and rhydon

And gengar and mismagius

[glossy zealot]

what are ou meta missing

[shut shard]

golisopod

[obtuse shoal]

Landorus t

[shut shard]

OH GOD

[odd kiln]

all gen 1 and 2 mons are in automatically so that comparison doesnt work

[shut shard]

don't even mention that.. thing

[obtuse shoal]

Hippo

[glossy zealot]

picking therian if possible would have been villain behaviour

[odd kiln]

i dont see the idea of hippo

[obtuse shoal]

It's a ground with sand stream that can slack off

[shut shard]

I can fuse it with snorlax

[odd kiln]

ttar better for sand and steelix better for def ground

[shut shard]

slack off

is

good

[odd kiln]

just fuse with a mon with recovery

[obtuse shoal]

And hippo does all 3 in 1

[hexed umbra]

It would definitely see usage, but its not anything groundbreaking pun intended

Its role compression for a fusion, it allows you to have more freedom with the other half

[obtuse shoal]

It would prob get more usage than tar

[odd kiln]

why

[shut shard]

honestly

when is Incineroar gonna be added

[hexed umbra]

0.1 seconds before the next doubles tournament

[shut shard]

that's who I'm waiting for

[obtuse shoal]

We have incineroar at home

Arcanine umbreon

[shut shard]

don't

[hexed umbra]

No fake out

What would you even fuse incineroar with? It already has all the tools it needs

[shut shard]

exactly

[obtuse shoal]

Recovery

[hexed umbra]

Arcanine for morning sun?

[obtuse shoal]

Entei for V create

[shut shard]

a dark type with high bst?

just make it tankier

[obtuse shoal]

Surprised no enteis were used in doubles

[shut shard]

in every way

[hexed umbra]

There was an Entei/Jolteon

[obtuse shoal]

Oh yeah that's right

[hexed umbra]

The problem is Incineroar is one of the bulkiest dark types already lmao

[shut shard]

but

it could be better

and slower

[obtuse shoal]

Poor umbreon getting ran out of a job

Btw what's the fastest physical ghost type

I think it's mmk right

[hexed umbra]

Actually Tyranitar/Incineroar (idk order)

[shut shard]

honestly you could just have 6 incineroar fusions that each fill a different niche

[obtuse shoal]

Btw
Is there gonna be a monotype

Which type will you be using

[hexed umbra]

Probably water? Havent made a team yet

[odd kiln]

bug

[shut shard]

and each pokemon it's fused with will be 10 times better than they were by being fused with incineroar

[obtuse shoal]

Anaconja will win with tinted lens yanmega

[shut shard]

is that one gonna be singles too?

actually

Why hasn't the gen 5 starters been added yet?

[glossy zealot]

i will do ghost because is my fav type

[shut shard]

Dragon for me, cuz my goat noivern is a dragon

[obtuse shoal]

It's also a flying
So you could go the lance way

Also each of your mons must have that type right

[shut shard]

yeah, but I just like dragons more than flying types

also haxorus

[obtuse shoal]

So I got to get ready for that enxorus

"HaHa VCreate go brrrr"

[shut shard]

It's been an hour

Did they pick one yet?

[dense token]

https://tenor.com/view/bridgerton-jonathan-bailey-viscount-anthony-wonder-gif-25402896

Also the validator doesn't recognise my team for some reason even though they all share dark type

[vital sand]

Mono team? Yea that's a bug rn

[dense token]

Are they fixing it?

[vital sand]

Yea

[hexed umbra]

Whats the new pokemon that will be added to the poll?

[obtuse shoal]

How does the boss format work

[hexed umbra]

Pick a pokemon with an evo line, one pokemon is fused with that pokemon, the rest must be fused with a prevo of that pokemon

The prevo fusions can't be fused with fully evolved pokemon (pokemon that dont evolve are fine) or legendaries

[obtuse shoal]

Does Cresselia count as legendary?

Technically, it's a mythical

[hexed umbra]

Cresselia is actually a legendary, Darkrai is mythical though
I'm assuming mythicals are counted as legendaries for this

Else every team is going to have at least 1 Jirachi lol

[obtuse shoal]

And entei

I can't deal with that v create

So yeah
One fully evolved Mon
And a team of eviolites of that mon
Got it

Oh this will be interesting
Well see some scythers here

[pure breach]

Do we know what the new mon for the vote is?

[hexed umbra]

It's Manectric, trust

Eviolite is banned in the big boss tournament

[obtuse shoal]

That's interesting
Who do you think is gonna do well

[whole karma]

Nah its minior

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[odd kiln]

dusk forgot to say if the boss dies you instantly lose

[obtuse shoal]

Ah F

No memento strats here then

[odd kiln]

why would you memento with your best mon though

[radiant rivet]

Its the last thing they'd expect?

[odd kiln]

doing something unexpected doesnt mean it was a good play

if i click plot on weavile sure my opp wouldnt expect that

but it doesnt matter bc i do no damage

[radiant rivet]

You are correct

So if read the rules correctly, there is nothing stoping me from fusing my "boss" pokemon with a legendary, right?

[pure breach]

Both of your mons from your boss fusion must have evo lines I think

[odd kiln]

idt it said that in the rules

[pure breach]

Says in terms of both body and head

[odd kiln]

⚾💬

@ruby current say it aint so

[hexed umbra]

.....oh well there's goes my entire strategy

[dense token]

This is why Im not participating in this one

[hexed umbra]

Wait then why did the rules specify the boss can be fused with a legendary?????????

[dense token]

(not the fact I got sacred fired out of existence last time)

[hexed umbra]

There aren't any legendaries that evolve in IF lmao

[odd kiln]

i mean

a legend is fully evolved

[hexed umbra]

Whether a pokemon that doesn't evolve is considered fully evolved or not varies

[pure breach]

Yeah I think in order to be fully evolved you need to be able to have evolved

[glossy zealot]

The doubles guy picked his mon yet?

[dense token]

yeah i dont think hes asleep

[ruby current]

Because I did specify in the rules that you pick either side of the fusion for your boss

If you can only pick one side your options become much easier

[obtuse shoal]

It wasn't meant to be taken seriously

Wait I do have to worry about v create spam or not?

Also shout out to shuckle and mimikyu
I have a feeling they'll be important

[cyan latch]

‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎

[obtuse shoal]

Btw
Worst game I've ever won
https://replay.pokeathlon.com/#replay=illusion911-trainmananime-1724365520629

[radiant rivet]

With losing your "boss" fusion being an instant K.O I wonder how good things like Prankster Destiny bond or sturdy + Metalburst will be.

Usually the problem of these strats is that they can only really trade, but in the tournament that trade is an instant win.

Will probably stay at gimmicky tho.

[glossy zealot]

Big boss is really Just edh for showdown

[radiant rivet]

what is edh?

[glossy zealot]

Mtg format

That you have a commander and 99 cards with his colors

[hexed umbra]

I'm still so confused about the exact rules

[glossy zealot]

Boss is full evolved fusion

The others are preevos + something not fully evolved

And need to have less base stats

[hexed umbra]

Can the boss be fused with a pokemon that doesn't evolve?
If the boss is from two evolution lines (eg, Sudowoodo/Seaking), can I have grunts of both goldeen and bonsly fusions?

I feel like my grasp on the rules has somehow gone down with time

[glossy zealot]

Yes you can fuse bowsly with a kecleon but not with a legendary

Not sure about the boss

Yes you can have from both

[radiant rivet]

Trade evolutions should make for really good grunts.

[glossy zealot]

Did the doubles winner chose it already it?

[shut shard]

no

[glossy zealot]

He came out of nowhere, won, didnt elaborate and left

[dense token]

We all talking about this but bro is either taking the biggest powernap or at work

[glossy zealot]

We dont know his timezone it could be anything

[obtuse shoal]

I think you're on to something

Cottonee ftw

Dbond cottonee

[odd kiln]

no you have to pick one of them

[radiant rivet]

How is the weight for fusion calculated?
For moves like Heatcrash, heavyslam grassknot etc.

Does it just use the weight of the body, the average or something else?

[odd kiln]

average

[dense token]

Doubles guys mon is corphish

[obtuse shoal]

is anyone else starting to get annoyed with managing all these teams?

@odd kiln how do you do this?

[shut shard]

I just delete team I don't use anymore

[odd kiln]

wym manage

[pure breach]

Crawdaunt is cool

Physical adaptability

[wispy ember]

@pure breach is tourney #6 monotype ran in the OU format?

[pure breach]

Should be in IF Monotype, which is currently identical to OU since I need to make monotype work with fusions (which I will do this weekend)

[wispy ember]

so I have to imagine OU ruleset/banset

shame

My meme team idea is in shambles

[radiant rivet]

Can my boss Pokemon be fused with a legendary?

[odd kiln]

@pure breach when you got time can you add functionality to the calc that indicates that a mon is fused

i.e. say like crawdaunt-meloetta-pirouette or something

[glossy zealot]

Question: can it be a triple fusion

[pure breach]

Oh yeah this is buried in my todo list somewhere, just haven’t touched the calc in a while, but will do once I regain some time and probably after the tournaments, since the validators are currently the main focus

[odd kiln]

oh ok

[obtuse shoal]

I just found out aurorus works here

[obtuse shoal]

you make a lot of teams, isn't your showdown clustered with them?

[odd kiln]

i just put my best teams at the top of the builder

[obtuse shoal]

I wouldn't mind a folder system for this

[odd kiln]

there is one

[obtuse shoal]

I am blind

thank you

[odd kiln]

np

[obtuse shoal]

but yeah, aurorus is good for this

amaura can set up hail

[odd kiln]

what do you use hail for though

[obtuse shoal]

aurora veil

[odd kiln]

they dont get veil youd have to find another mon to do that

[obtuse shoal]

delibird is allowed

[odd kiln]

i rue the day i have to use amaura delibird

[obtuse shoal]

but yeah it's a lot of work and I don't think it works that well

[odd kiln]

to set up veil for my other 4 amaura fusions

[obtuse shoal]

especially because you have the MIGHTY SUN RIGHT THERE

For rain and sand you have to use your big boss, with tyranitar or politoed

But for sun, vulpix works

and from then you can go solarbeam, or just firepower

[odd kiln]

the problem is you cant use vcreate

[obtuse shoal]

you can

[pure breach]

Start rueing (?), Delicup is coming

[obtuse shoal]

im vcreating as we speak

on my big boss

[tribal trellis]

let's go delibird!

[glossy zealot]

there it is he picked corphish/crawdaunt

120 base atk + those abilities

looks good

[pure breach]

Adaptability

[odd kiln]

id probably immediately suspect it if it gets added

[pure breach]

Hmm

[odd kiln]

as i said in #pif-hoenn-discussion it 2hkos everything in rain

with melop yes

anyone have a big boss team yet

[obtuse shoal]

I do

[odd kiln]

u wanna test

[obtuse shoal]

ok

[radiant rivet]

also got a big boss team

[glossy zealot]

im sure about my boss but i didnt build it yet

how do you make topsturvy in a fusion

[pure breach]

I think it’s Hitmontop or Wobb

As in, both of those give you Topsy Turvy

[glossy zealot]

dammit its wobbufet but not wynaut

[obtuse shoal]

when I want to spam leech seed but then they put a grass steel type in front

[glossy zealot]

use trick or treat problem solved

(copium)

also i finished my big boss team

but i cant practice

[odd kiln]

this is why you dont use leech seed

[obtuse shoal]

wanna practice with me?

So far I'm seeing:

• Entei vulpix combos
• Lots of middle evo mons, with dual type to hide weaknesses
• Lots of physical power
• Lots of scald, intimidate and will o wisp to counter

[glossy zealot]

sure

my name is pevetos

i cant find the big boss ladder

[obtuse shoal]

it's in the extras

[pure breach]

I’ve just pushed what should be the final fixes for Big Boss format, as always, please try it out so there’s no issues with the validator when the tournament comes

[hexed umbra]

Not sure who I should @ for this, but FULLY EVOLVED TRIPLE FUSIONS ARE CURRENTLY LEGAL IN THE TEAMBUILDER FOR BIG BOSS
Strangely, nfe triple fusions are illegal.

This is a legal team
https://pokepast.es/fad61b181fdc4e09

[glossy zealot]

If you chose a legendary trio boss you tecnically cant pick any grunt

[vital sand]

wait is big boss a few hours from now?

Fuck i havent made a team

[pure breach]

you should ping me, I'll fix that

fixed

[obtuse shoal]

What about using entei with big boss

Is that legal?

[glossy zealot]

i dont see why a triple fusion starter can not be a big boss

[vital sand]

The doc is updated btw guys

[pure breach]

doesn't look like it

[obtuse shoal]

It says do not fuse grunts with legendaries

The boss can

[pure breach]

says the big boss is fully evolved in both body and head, I assume both fusion components must be fully evolved, which Entei wouldn't be as it's a single-stage

but some clarification on this would be nice @thin schooner

[hexed umbra]

The Boss can be fused with a legendary in the teambuilder

[obtuse shoal]

Also, last time I tried
Chlorophyll was allowed

[hexed umbra]

...if it can't then everyones going to have a lot of fun rebuilding teams

[obtuse shoal]

A couple hours before the tournament too

[hexed umbra]

Chlorophyll isn't legal with Drought, I just spent a while building a Big Boss sun team to find out it won't work

I tried to get weather to work for a while, got nothing. At least I already have a team

I considered using Sandshrew as my grunts

[obtuse shoal]

Yeah I thought sun would be good because vulpix and amaura are the only weather setters for grunts

It prob still is
But I haven't found the right grunts

[hexed umbra]

Lowkey Sandshrew isn't unusable
If Sandshrew (not just Sandslash) learned Thousand Arrows, I probably would have used it)

[obtuse shoal]

There's few good Pokémon worth as grunts

[glossy zealot]

they will mostly grunts so they will not be that bad

[obtuse shoal]

I saw pex and rhydon

[glossy zealot]

pex is final evo inst it?

[obtuse shoal]

And rhydon is just so crazy it stops a lot of normal grunts

[obtuse shoal]

Mareanie

It's good

[glossy zealot]

rhydon is peak boss now that you are saying

[obtuse shoal]

Dual typing with no double weakness, 2 good abilities

[obtuse shoal]

Rhydon is grunt
Rhyperior is boss

[lone dust]

Shhhh don’t spoil my terrible team idea

Although almost definitely not going to make the tour due to family visiting so

[hexed umbra]

Idk why they banned Misdreavus and not Rhydon lol

[glossy zealot]

why they banned misdreavus?

[hexed umbra]

They probably thought it would be too strong as a grunt

[glossy zealot]

is her base stat too high?

[hexed umbra]

435 BST. Rhydon is 485

Tried to make a Sandshrew sand team, its just not worth it. You can never switch into Scald, and the team was just spam hazards + roar and hope your ace (which has to be Sandslash and Tyranitar) manages to sweep.

The other weathers don't fare any better

[glossy zealot]

you could try a water absorb mon, idk if they are playable

[vital sand]

Ima just go with a dragon dance sweeper and call it a day, fuck it lmao

too lazy to think of a team

[dense token]

if i have like metagross and haxorous can my grunts be either beldum and axew or do i choose one

[glossy zealot]

you can have the mid stage

[vital sand]

Idk try validate it using a mix of both

If it isn't valid, then no

If you can that's huge though, I can use something that's not specifically tied to just one line

[dense token]

it is valid

https://tenor.com/2GCX.gif

[vital sand]

Holy shit

[dense token]

i dont know how but my FTL sprite for this month is in showdown somehow

[vital sand]

OOOK- that's huge

[dense token]

im deleting the message so idont give away my team

i dont know why i wrote sprite

the catch is

you cant have a legendary for the boss

[vital sand]

Pseudos though

[dense token]

pseudos fair game

but then the exceeding bst thing can come up

[vital sand]

Yea I feel like everyone's gonna use pseudos

[dense token]

i mean i have 1 but its the first evo

and ive chosen the mon i have for very specific reasons

[vital sand]

I can see someone using like 2 pseudo fusion and make a team of both lines

Like the boss would just be an endgame sweeper

[dense token]

i tried that but

the boss sprite was not cool

seriously

we definetley need to up the standard of pseudo x pseudo fusions

or maybe garchomp just sucks as a body( it does not)

sprite aside

[vital sand]

~~We both know we both have the power to change that ~~
Tbh most of my teams in the past don't got customs either

[dense token]

the potential is very high

[vital sand]

Tbh I'm curious if everyone would still use regenerator spam

[dense token]

they would

[teal phoenix]

anyone wanna run showdown rn?

natdex gen 9 ag

[main jungle]

Personally I didn't

At one point it was a team of bidoofs

[teal phoenix]

?

please sm1

on pokeathlon if btw

[thin schooner]

Yeag that right, both should be fully evolved

[teal phoenix]

@thin schooner can u hop on rn?

[pure breach]

So Entei can’t be part of the boss Fusion?

I’ll have to make that change

I think

[teal phoenix]

@pure breach can u please hop on rn

[pure breach]

I cannot unfortunately

sorry

also that whole thing has been fixed, both fusion components in the boss fusion must be the fully evolved form of an evolution line. Sorry if this causes you to have to change your teams, but the rules had that for a while, I just hadn't implemented it properly

[glossy zealot]

i will not be able to compete in big boss

those anyone want my team

[dense token]

is bro really

https://tenor.com/bClDA.gif

[glossy zealot]

(someone that would vote for gourgeist or iligant or florges if possible)

if anyone want it just send me a message

[obtuse shoal]

Can we ban rhydon?

[odd kiln]

rhydon deez

[obtuse shoal]

What's the thoughts on having a group voice chat when these tournaments happen

[shut shard]

I'm ready

I'm not ready

what does this mean???

[pure breach]

That’s from genlock

[shut shard]

I did not realize

I was so confused for a second

[vital sand]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[cloud orbit]

Is anyone available for last minute big boss testing

[thick axle]

I also considered making a bidoof team🙏

[rose ingot]

Chat

it's time

to make a team in 60 minutes again

AND LOSE HORRIBLY

maybe not on the first round

but still

[shut shard]

I made my team yesterday

[rose ingot]

in monogen

I LITERALLY

made it 60 minutes before it started

[shut shard]

although I haven't tested it

[rose ingot]

and I made it in 30 minutes

[rose ingot]

imagine testing your team

I didn't even make my team yet

strong pokemon, weak pokemon FUCK IT USE LYCANROC RAHHH

[thick axle]

What does a rockruff team even offer?

[shut shard]

sturdy

counter

reversal

[thick axle]

It doesn't even get sturdy 😭

[shut shard]

it doesn't?

fusion

[thick axle]

Only thing he does is being cute

[rose ingot]

being cute and stuffs

I just like it fr

oh well

I guess I'll try to build a good team

without rockruff

making me make a team without lycanroc whatsoever is like trying to make a bird not fly

[thick axle]

you can bring rockruff, but don't make it your boss
Otherwise you don't really have a chance

[rose ingot]

[thick axle]

Or maybe you can make the boss be lycanroc and another mon, and then make your team build around the second mon

[rose ingot]

lemme think of good bosses

I got an idea

I am doing this for fun anyway, so it'll be a fun way to test my theory

honestly half way into the team, it's gonna be bad, but I got nothing to lose, as I had nothing to begin with

[main jungle]

Same

[main jungle]

Same

[inner girder]

so what are the rule of big boss?

[rose ingot]

I finished building my really goofy team

definitly gonna lose first round

[pure breach]

@inner girder

[rose ingot]

I made something that's gonna fail me the first round

and it's gonna be amazing

I have a plan AND IT WILL NOT WORK

[main jungle]

Same

[glossy zealot]

Get them @obtuse shoal

[thin schooner]

Same

[rose ingot]

I feel like

I am a newbie entering the trenches rn

I don't know what I am entering but I'll do it and lose with pride that I used a singular rockruff on my team

[thick axle]

50/50 my plan works

[main jungle]

If it makes you feel better, that's a lot of the people joining it

[rose ingot]

last tourney

I made it to the

3rd round

somehow

with a team that I only did for the funnies

[rose ingot]

I think I accidently made smth really good

[main jungle]

I've only made it round 1 in the 2 I've participated in

[rose ingot]

steelworker is actualy a really valuable ability

• grass steel typing with metagross swords dance and bullet punch

it kind of sweeped one round

I was just like "hmm that seems fine, alola doesn't have many mons anyways, and I just wanna do it for the funnies"

[tropic path]

my team is ready, this will go either really badly or really good

[rose ingot]

if you'll fight me

really good

[tropic path]

as practice now? for me it's ok

[obtuse shoal]

it's not a bad idea

but I feel like steel resists are too prevalent for that

water steel is just good

[rose ingot]

honestly I really know nothing about comp scene

I know what's roughly good and bad

but not the details of it

[obtuse shoal]

actually, I realized you could be using 2 different grunt species

and not only 1

so you could have had duoblade and someone else

[glossy zealot]

Yes the team have severas duoblades and things else

[obtuse shoal]

like, you had aegislash and gourgheist

[main jungle]

Good luck everyone, remember to have fun

[obtuse shoal]

you could have mixed some with doublade, others with pumpkaboo

[spring sparrow]

Guys, If you lose please show your teams, I want to see the team and boss

[tropic path]

well I won on turn 3 after my oponent DCed xd

[rose ingot]

oh well I lost

honestly I didn't really try I am prolly just gonna eep

it's 1 am

[spring sparrow]

Show your team

[rose ingot]

ok

keep in mind I made it in 20 minutes

prior to the tourney

[spring sparrow]

Oh

[rose ingot]

(it's very bad)

[spring sparrow]

Well, lets see if have some theme or something

[rose ingot]

https://pokepast.es/483e7f0f0319a31c

I just like alakazam line tbh

they're very funni

[tropic path]

no way another person did the same thing I did hahaha

[trim herald]

ngl

i didnt realize you could have more than one grunt species

[tropic path]

man I'm really stupid xd

how do you share the team?

[hexed umbra]

Yeah the rules were... not explained well

[main jungle]

I did much better than I thought I would

[vital sand]

I blunderrf and forgot the rules

I should've switched aaa

[main jungle]

I only used swablus so kind of surprising

And considering what I was up against, I think i did pretty good

[gritty anvil]

Takeaways from Big Boss:

• BST is basically king
• Type matchups matter but not as much
• There are many more strong physical single-stage mons than there are special ones
• Cross-gen evolutions are generally the strongest choices, due to the value of base stats

[thick axle]

That was so fun, I actually didn't care about sandygast until now, I wanted to use IF infinite weather with shore up, and made it to the finals with it

[gritty anvil]

One more thing, mixed attackers are good since you can vary your offenses

[gritty anvil]

Dude, that was absolutely cinematic

[thick axle]

My silly team https://pokepast.es/3fd6e5101b0266f6

[gritty anvil]

https://pokepast.es/a7c2a9b110cfd47d

[gritty anvil]

Shore up actually so good, don't know how I managed to deal with it

[thick axle]

Taunt

[main jungle]

https://pokepast.es/6853a8dc629b24cb

[gritty anvil]

I saw your team when you posted it earlier and decided that my plan for facing you was "nasty plot and pray"

[main jungle]

I didn't even really get to get Big Boss DC going

Eject button was there for a reason

[gritty anvil]

Eventually I begrudgingly added special mons to replace my Heracross and Dhelmise out of terror for cotton guard

[hexed umbra]

It doesnt have recoery

[main jungle]

tbh I forget the reason as soon as the tournament started

Think it was fear of fairys

Or maybe I picked the wrong item

and meant to pick red card

[hexed umbra]

Setup + Eject Button

[main jungle]

Actually it might have been for outrage