pif-hoenn-discussion

[trail hull]

what a shame

let's ask doodledoo I'm sure they don't have 30 things to take care of already

[inland jewel]

time to give Frog a sidequest to make a new launcher

[hushed axle]

[trail hull]

Achivement unlock: an other year of work

Unlocked after getting a task that can extend a project by a year

[lunar lodge]

Think a bout it gastrodon is the perfect fish

it even comes with twice the amount of fusion

[velvet root]

Something something Capricorn
Something somthing fish
Lets add Gogoat

[pale sparrow]

Gastrodon is so peak frfr

[stone hinge]

I have the propaganda

(the self fusion is a self fusion alt now)

I have gastrodon self fusion concepts that I don't (think) would be alted though

[velvet root]

Cool cows

[lunar lodge]

ive seen the concepts they are very nice

[stone hinge]

Gastrodon self fusions :3

[austere aspen]

pink gastrodon is so much better than blue one
but both are weaker than budew that is both blue and pink

[lunar lodge]

ive seen them again they are very nice

[fathom ridge]

Vikavolt PowerPoint

[velvet root]

Look more like a regional version thats partly poison type

[green laurel]

you guys should post that once a day till they are added /j

[velvet root]

Like loosing the ground type

[stone hinge]

A lot of sea slugs are actually poisonous!

[fathom ridge]

I hope we get a vote this summer, new mons time is always fun

[stone hinge]

That's probably why so many are vibrantly colored

Although a lot of sea critters are also just vibrantly colored

[velvet root]

Did you guys say propaganda

[stone hinge]

Goats

[fathom ridge]

THE GOAT THE GOAAAATTTT

Gogoat would get added and instantly have more sprites than some mons

[velvet root]

True

[tender plank]

i don't have any propaganda at hand sadly, only pleas

[velvet root]

But people use that against it

[velvet root]

Really gotta make a Costa propaganda

[atomic hornet]

We almost had drampa a while back so close

[fathom ridge]

Huh that’s interesting

Why was that on the table?

[velvet root]

Good thing about it being added is that we soon cant add dragons anymore

[tender plank]

i think it won something but since it was dragon it was disallowed

[thin pawn]

vote eelektross

[tender plank]

or was thta kommo o

[fathom ridge]

Turtonator

[atomic hornet]

yeah for the last fusion day the person with the most sprites was originally going to choose drampa, but ended up being swoobat

[tender plank]

yeah i think that was kommo o actually

[fathom ridge]

Buddy I have some news for you

[atomic hornet]

pfffft not at all

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-barnacles-funny-gif-gif-14509494416451968887

[pale sparrow]

I still can't believe that the team that had gastrodon in its roster actually won, but they still didnt end up picking it

crazy stuff

[velvet root]

Idk how Dragalge got in

[pale sparrow]

its a dragon

[fathom ridge]

The ZA leaks

[pale sparrow]

thats all that matters to voters

[green laurel]

vince bribed frog

[velvet root]

I only saw 1 Dragalge fan ever and it was Vince or what his name was

[velvet root]

Man switched teams mid event

[fathom ridge]

I can’t complain about eelektross and dragalgle tbh I like those

[pale sparrow]

I like both too

[green laurel]

WDYM "OR WHAT HIS NAME IS"?????????????

[pale sparrow]

But I would swap either for gastrodon in a heartbeat

[velvet root]

Yeah forgot if the name was vince

[fathom ridge]

I would swap them for vikavolt also

[green laurel]

How could you forget vince?????
Hes unforgettable

[velvet root]

Brain is mush
Getting annoyed about bad internet and alt+F4 a sprite I made for a event that I despise after some feedback

[velvet root]

I wouldnt swap them for Gogoat cuz I know how hated it is

https://tenor.com/view/tinder-my5n5-kermit-gif-24133413

[spice sage]

We almost had it instead of Oricorio on the first batch of new mons too

[atomic hornet]

Poor guy cant catch a break

Actually guys, the other night I had a hoenn demo Q&A session here since you guys are awesome. Some expressed they were sad cause they missed it. How would you like to have another one?

[pale sparrow]

how was oricorio chosen again? I forgot

Was it by a singular user that won an event too?

[atomic hornet]

Kiwi's choice!

[pale sparrow]

oh right

really great choice that one

[atomic hornet]

Sometimes frog will allow people who have done significant dev work to choose a pokemon to get in as a thank you, and that was hers

[full bison]

You have any plans related to Altering Cave, that one place in Emerald that was supposed to have a bunch of E-reader based encounters?

[atomic hornet]

Yes!

[hidden relic]

One day I'll get to choose

[atomic hornet]

Not gonna say what exactly, but its a yes

[hidden relic]

I'll get to choose a grand ol' ||Nothing ||

We were so close to Mel, I got robbed on Staff Pick 3

[fathom ridge]

So meltan is 100% a gen 7 Mon?

[atomic hornet]

Any other questions? Frog is here too I think so we can open up to more technically complex questions too

[atomic hornet]

I think so, yes

[pale sparrow]

Meltan is clearly gen 1

[hidden relic]

Yeah, Double Iron Bash is within the engine

And it was also available in previous vote forms

[fathom ridge]

Of course bc it was added in the gen 1 remake

[hidden relic]

And also as mention, a contender for Staff Pick.... I will never stop fighting!!

[fathom ridge]

So there will be another staff pick

[atomic hornet]

Probably not, I dont think. That's up to frog

[hushed axle]

I won’t

[fathom ridge]

Can I choose for you?

[hushed axle]

No

My favorite Mon is already in the game, I’m happy

[fathom ridge]

[velvet root]

Lets choose a fakemon to confuse people

[pale sparrow]

Most of my favorites are not in

[hushed axle]

-# it was in back when there was only 420 mons

[fathom ridge]

What’s your favorite?

[hushed axle]

The disaster Pokemon

[velvet root]

Lets start Komonium propaganda

[atomic hornet]

thats for sure

[pale sparrow]

Nihilego, Gastrodon, Florges, Drapion, Furfrou are the first that come to mind rn

[full bison]

My favorite isn't getting in without a ton of other mons, so I've resigned to not seeing it for a while

[fathom ridge]

Ah! Absol
-# right?

[pale sparrow]

Mienshao too

[hushed axle]

Drapion would’ve been neat

[velvet root]

Fun ones on paper but I feel some end up very messy or controversial

[spice sage]

There isn't one planned at the moment, but I'm not ruling it out. There will be more Pokemon added in the future still

[fathom ridge]

Oh furfrou would be so neat I love the tophat one

[molten loom]

Simispark

[velvet root]

True

[atomic hornet]

So, are there actually questions for the project? Otherwise it's gone off topic and I'll stop

[fathom ridge]

Simispark my beloved…

[hushed axle]

You can’t say that frog

[spice sage]

Simispark is one of them, obviously

[fathom ridge]

We are asking for the future mons of the project

[full bison]

There's a lot of Gen 4 mons that I would love to see added. Like Bronzong and Hippowdon

[green laurel]

i have many questions
but none that can be answered

[velvet root]

Can we know if we get both bikes

[hushed axle]

Neither bike

[fathom ridge]

At this point this is there just to keep people from being annoying

[spice sage]

I do what I want

[green laurel]

its actually rollerblades now
/j

[velvet root]

That means we add Alola ride pokemon and the bike replacement is Gogoat

[atomic hornet]

It's in open discussion at the moment, but right now we're thinking of possibly combining them into one somehow. It's not finalized at the moment

[hushed axle]

That is a gen 6 thing

[fathom ridge]

All gogoat sprites need overworld sprites

[full bison]

Diamond and Pearl had the gear shift feature for the bike, that could be a means of combining them

[velvet root]

Cant wait for the Pokemon Infinite fusion 3D version

[molten loom]

its actually just a scooter now, or a segway

[fathom ridge]

We all have to learn blender

[spice sage]

This might change later, but the plan for the first demo at least is to have a single bike but that will be able to cross the obstacles of both bikes (the slopes and the ramps)

[velvet root]

Noice

[full bison]

So many 3D models would be submitted with Garten of Banban level topology

[spice sage]

Paya is too fast at typing, I can't keep up

[hushed axle]

https://tenor.com/view/mcqueen-gif-25874245

[green laurel]

frog, you need to ev train your speed

[velvet root]

Will we have replacement items for HM moves or will we be able to use them if a Pokemon in the team COULD learn it

[velvet root]

Nah we give frog a mega stone

[hushed axle]

Megas in PIF confirmed

[atomic hornet]

No megas

[fathom ridge]

That doesn’t sound too outrageous tbh

[rancid nymph]

Do you want to flip frog upside down

[fathom ridge]

Like maybe in PIF 3

[hushed axle]

[spice sage]

Gen 2 was supposed to have a skateboard originally, maybe I should bring that back

[stray spear]

mega frogzilla

[fathom ridge]

Maybe you could give the bike a bunch of skins

[hushed axle]

Will it change to a snowboard when snowing?

[fathom ridge]

Like the character customization stuff!

[velvet root]

Nah he gets a big aaah flower in a open toilett seat angle

[green laurel]

give us pokemon riding in the form of bike skins /j

[fathom ridge]

I could see people make bike skins for their fusions

[pale sparrow]

I feel like the opportunity of the bike shop owner saying that he "fused" two bikes into one that can do both things is too great to pass up 👀

[atomic hornet]

Customizing bikes could be technically possible, but would be a lot of work. It could be a maybe someday

[velvet root]

Ngl I can see that working
"You unlocked the ability to change your bike or rent a Pokemon to get around the region"

[spice sage]

Replacement items will be back and function the same as they do in PIF1

[velvet root]

Nice

[atomic hornet]

I would loooooove to do pokemon riding. That would be a lot more work than bike customization

[velvet root]

Ngl if that feature gets added and we dont have Gogoat with it I give up on it

[spice sage]

I feel like an idiot for not thinking of it. I'm definitely putting that in, it's perfect 😂

[full bison]

Pokémon riding would quickly result in people wanting to ride fusions, I imagine

[velvet root]

Just tell them no

[atomic hornet]

Yep, and we cant do that

[fathom ridge]

Maybe also in people making those sprites…

[velvet root]

Spriters have a life too

[hushed axle]

But it would be worth it

[hushed axle]

Since when?

[molten loom]

they would not listen

[velvet root]

Okay after the gem event im unsure looking at one specific person but else

[slim otter]

Is this like the npc that says he fused a piece of chalk with some cheese?

Using DNA Splicers

[hushed axle]

Pokémon riding could work the same as it does in gen 7. Certain mons only

[fathom ridge]

We really should double the work needed to make all fusions complete guys that’s a good idea

[velvet root]

Except we do it the Alola way

[atomic hornet]

this kind of spriting is a different skillset, and then a lot of other issues would come of it too. If the feature is entertained it would be base pokemon only. But there are other issues in general, like player positioning since all pokemon are different heights. I'll think on it, but its not a high priority right now

[molten loom]

or gen 6, to ride over specfic areas

[slim otter]

Nah, just put the player on top of the owerworld model
You can stand on a Litwick

[velvet root]

PIF2 newest gimmik
Fusing items

[fathom ridge]

In a perfect world we could have our fusions following us but sadly time isn’t infinite

[atomic hornet]

some would work like that, but others would look weird

[hushed axle]

Ngl, I forgot gen 6 had it too

[full bison]

Fusing the Eviolite and Everstone is a pretty common suggestion

[velvet root]

Cant wait to fuse my choice specs with my silk scarf and give it Poryvern Z

[molten loom]

very few bits of it, but yeah it existed

[velvet root]

Pov boomburst after that

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-mushroom-cloud-atomic-bomb-bomb-boom-gif-4464831

[atomic hornet]

Any other questions?

[full bison]

Nah, give it to Porygon-Z/Swellow for Scrappy so Ghosts can't escape

[molten loom]

rhyhorn, mamoswine, and gogoat/skiddo

[fathom ridge]

Is mayonnaise an instrument?

[velvet root]

Can we have Gogoat if ride pokemon ever get added?
Even if its just a small area

No the question is a joke

[pale sparrow]

how does the terraleak affect your work and the morale of the team?

[slim otter]

If you're creative it can be

[velvet root]

I sadly know Cats are an instrument qwq

[atomic hornet]

Not at all, I don't know what that is

[molten loom]

-# is the telemauv fight going to be in the demo?

[atomic hornet]

Dont know

[velvet root]

Will we have hidden areas with no hint of them existing again?

[slim otter]

I'm assuming the Chalk/Cheese kid was lying about fusing

[atomic hornet]

Possibly~ we've already one area

[full bison]

Telemauv/Cool Dino/Ball Guy triple fusion when

[atomic hornet]

not so hidden though

[slim otter]

Will we redirect Virdian River so it goes through Viridian City again?

[velvet root]

What would happen if we fuse 2 dna splicers?

[stray spear]

hows your day so far

[full bison]

That's how Super Splicers are made

[molten loom]

and get rid of that ledge that makes me do the walk of shame everytime I jump down it on my way to the gym

[atomic hornet]

could be better tbh

[green laurel]

when are we getting cool dino lore?

[molten loom]

Cool dino is too cool for lore

[atomic hornet]

One game at a time this is for the hoenn demo

[slim otter]

Never

[velvet root]

And if we fuse super splicers?

[slim otter]

If you want to make it to the Ground gym, you have to be able to navigate the ground

[green laurel]

are you saying that cool dino isnt going to be in hoenn?

[stray spear]

i hope it gets better for you

[full bison]

You can't further fuse a fusion, you can only unfuse it into 2 regular splicers

[slim otter]

But what about Minecraft Pokémon Infinite Fusion

[green laurel]

different team

[molten loom]

Cool dino is Goldenrod department store's mascot, Telemauv is the equivalent for Hoenn

[velvet root]

Can we get a battle facility mode in wich spriters enter theyr team on a side and it gets added like that in the game and they can only change it every year

[green laurel]

they can borrow him tho

[slim otter]

What do you mean once a year
Who's tracking that
Do you know how many "WAAAAH I MISCLICKED" we'd get?

[atomic hornet]

We really havent planned for things further in the game

[slim otter]

Why only Spriters

[velvet root]

Well Spriters and above

People who do anything for the game

[fathom ridge]

Imagine something like the art gallery but instead of showcasing sprite you fight someone with some of their fusions

[slim otter]

You don't have to get a role to write dex entries

[slim otter]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[fathom ridge]

Wait is that’s what it is already

[molten loom]

its at the gallery

[slim otter]

You can battle them after the E4

[fathom ridge]

I maybe shouldn’t talk about stuff I don’t know

[slim otter]

Randomly generated clothes and appearance

[fathom ridge]

I wonder if someone has fought me

[slim otter]

It's more likely that secret base trainers would reuse that tech imo

[slim otter]

If you go multiple days in a row, you can eventually choose who will be there tomorrow

[velvet root]

Since when does that exist?

[molten loom]

for a while

[atomic hornet]

Alrighty guys, gonna call it. Have fun!

[slim otter]

Months, maybe a year

[fathom ridge]

Byeeee

[molten loom]

you also have fun

[slim otter]

Before there were randomly chosen clothes, they all just used the Artist npcs

[stray spear]

Bye Paya

[hardy tartan]

So we’re propagandizing fishes for fishmas here right
Are we doing the monophyletic or paraphyletic definition?

[stray spear]

Whar

[hardy tartan]

~~or wait was it polyphyly I can never remember which is which ~~

[fathom ridge]

Anything is a fish if you think hard enough
-# and it’s your favorite

[inland jewel]

dang, i was gonna ask frog whats stopping the updated mons changes so that mons like Wigglytuff and Milotic are missing abilities/ stat changes

[full bison]

Anything with a spine descended from a fish. Therefore we all are fish.

[fathom ridge]

I can swim, of course I am a fish

[spice sage]

Honestly, the fact that there's no organized list documenting the errors afaik. I hear people mention it once in a while but rarely any specifics so I don't really know what needs fixing.

[full bison]

The big ones I know are the aforementioned Milotic and Wigglytuff not having Competitive and Weavile not having Icicle Crash.

[hardy tartan]

So we’re using the monophyletic definition
And therefore archen is a fish

[hardy tartan]

Exactly

[inland jewel]

oh, ill just past this on to the guy who ranted about it in one of the chats last night

[inland jewel]

okay, we got some peeps compiling a list to send you, keep an eye out

[dim sparrow]

I have fought myself

[velvet root]

I wonder if someone fought me
Or better requested me to appear

[trail hull]

Same

[stiff storm]

Question: I know some games do it like this for sequels, but will this be the kind of thing where you load and link your save file from 1 to 2 at the start of the game (which sometimes comes with bonuses for doing so ^_^)?

Or would we put our save slot in a specific folder?

Or is it known yet?

[velvet root]

You can trade pkmn between safefiles so you dont need to randomize to get like Spheal in the first game

[inland jewel]

the only thing confirmed for cross-games compatibility is trading mons between the two games (no trading with others unless you're visiting your friend and put your save file onto their computer)

[summer apex]

Ah, pokemon trading only through a physical hard connection

just like the good old days

[frigid grove]

I just checked announcements and didnt see anything new I was wondering if theyve given an ETA on hoenn by any chance

[atomic hornet]

I like it! I'll see if we can make it happen before thinking on it

Also eta on the demo. Safe to say within a couple months. Could be 1, could be 3, who knows ||for real, its within that timeframe ||

Things are coming along really smoothly, we're taking care of bugs that were found, adding last minute content (which is pushing it slightly further), and then general timing with certain things

[dense cosmos]

Is wurmple going to be like a 50/50 on which one you get upon evolving or is that not decided yet?

[atomic hornet]

Hidden values like real games

[fringe forge]

😭

maybe an npc that can identify what wurmple will evolve into then?

[atomic hornet]

We would consider changing it, but its a coin flip whether people like it or hate it

[ivory seal]

Papayapon, I have a question

[atomic hornet]

Sup!

[ivory seal]

Wurmple has two evolutions right? and since you said there's a hidden value, could you add an NPC that identifies them?

I think players would love that

[fringe forge]

i just asked that

[dense cosmos]

I am probably going to catch a ton of wurmple and evolve them till I get both silcoon and cascoon.
(Or just catch them as their cocoon evos)

[fringe forge]

😭

[ivory seal]

I'm being a little tongue and cheek brick

[fringe forge]

i will cook you duck man

[ivory seal]

Please do

My muscles taste yummy

[fringe forge]

i ... did not expect that

[atomic hornet]

Maybe, we'll consider it! Frog is considering a different method for evolution, but its a delicate balance. Also low priority to figure out compared to other things we're doing at the moment

[ivory seal]

Ooooh gotcha

Maybe it'll come after the demo

[atomic hornet]

I love duck, its so juicy

[ivory seal]

Duck is very juicy

I love the BBQ store they have here in Seattle

So good

[dense cosmos]

Npc: this wurmple will evolve into a wormadam

[fringe forge]

and thats how they reveal wormadam line being added

🤯

[molten loom]

Yeah Briney needs to work on getting his boating license as well

[atomic hornet]

Somehow that bug got worse I love it

But yeah.. how would you guys feel about day/night evolutions for them?

[molten loom]

I feel like it works

[atomic hornet]

Thats what were debating on right now. Either that or 50-50 chance (with possible npc)

[trail hull]

Hi paya how you doing?

Also question for pifh: will we able to use the transfer box in the demo?

[steep glen]

This going to have any of the pokemon from later gena or still stick to the same gens

[molten loom]

same gens

[steep glen]

damn was hoping for Centiskorch and Frosmoth

I want Ōmukade

[hushed axle]

But then we can’t have people catch and evolve 10 wurmple trying to get a Beautifly

[prime dust]

would be odd to do after the demo since wurmple is a very early route mon to obtain

[prime dust]

that'd be fine

it worked well for rockruff

i see no reason why we can't add in certain evo things like that if the other option is just chance

it'll just be funny in a way because part of the aspect of the game was removing all the weird evo requirements and now we're slowing adding them back in

or at least some of them

[trail hull]

I think remove it is a good call , sure it strays from main line game but this is a fusion game. Making fusion material more easily available is always good

[steep glen]

also Centiskorch and Scolipede fusion

[prime dust]

yeah but think about if they kept things the same and then we get to malamar

whose evo requirement is having the device be upside down

i don't think any pcs have gyros in them

[trail hull]

Since inkay's evo method will need change anyways I think we can chaneg wurmple's

[hidden relic]

You say that like Inkay is in

Ah yes we need to change Inkay's evo method rIGHT NOW otherwise IF Hoenn will EXPLODE!!!

[trail hull]

I said will no is

[prime dust]

it might

you can't prove otherwise

but the thing of what i was getting at is IF evo requirements hadn't changed

most of the weird evo requirements aren't too bad

the trade evos would be pain

so, some kind of trade system would have needed to exist

[hidden relic]

Of all of the mons though

Inkay is like

The least tame I'd say

Like yeah you can do the upsidep-down thing

But... it's still level 30 at the earliest where you can do that

So just... it evolves at level 30

[hidden relic]

Also in terms of like the trade stuff... it'd just be like Golem or Machamp most likely

Just gets changed to level 40

I mean there's different ways to go about it, but looking at past precedent.... A trade system does not have to exist at all

Especially since IF has Linking Cord

[prime dust]

again, if those hadn't been changed

i feel like that is what is being missed

say this game kept all the weird evo mechanics, nothing got altered in any capacity

inkay is the problem child

[trail hull]

but everything (in game) already got changed so inkay should too (once he releases)

[prime dust]

...

and you are still missing the point

so i'm just gonna move on and not frustrate myself trying to explain it further

[trail hull]

the point wasn't to have everything uniform!?

[viscid fossil]

Nah, inkay should evolve by going into windows settings and flipping the display upside down
(ctrl+alt+down is supposed to do that but sometimes doesn't idk)

[steep glen]

Yes i know

[inland jewel]

as long as you're okay with waiting till 2040-50 for them then thats fine

[slim otter]

You have to go to the Distortion World and level them up while standing on an upside-down platform, obviously

[dense cosmos]

you telling me you don't flip pc upside down for malamar?

[rancid nymph]

No, you flip the keyboard upside down

[pulsar latch]

guys
do pokemon infinite fusion 2 out?
where can i donwload

alr alr

i see

[atomic hornet]

Hey just saw this, and that's the plan hopefully! If things don't get borked

[inland jewel]

i mean if anything, the hoenn mons will be available in randomizer still

instead of just guarenteed capture in the demo and transfer over

[prime dust]

you realize by saying that, it will be borked

[pulsar latch]

guys the pokemon infinite fusion 2 its same to pokemon infinite fusion hoenn?

ah

okey

[prime dust]

the name is interchangable

[atomic hornet]

Absolutely There's also a chance that he won't make the transfer box live right away. We'll see

[prime dust]

i mean that would make sense, since it also requires getting the box sorted on PIF as well

[atomic hornet]

Yep, and he would like exclusive mons to be exclusive for a little bit. Otherwise if he changes his mind he's already prepared to do what he needs to for pif1. he totally didnt forget until I reminded him

[prime dust]

lol

[light garden]

@pulsar latch
Automoderator:
You have sent a link to a fake website to download Pokemon Infinite Fusion. Please run a virus scan if you have downloaded from there and follow our installation guides, type ?tag fakefiles for more info

[prime dust]

oof

[pulsar latch]

that have virus or what

[prime dust]

yes

given it isn't out yet

also the bot yeeted the message you sent and automod replied

[pulsar latch]

i mean like pif 1 can play normal ,what if donwload it? my pc will boom?

[prime dust]

downloading PIF or PIFH from anywhere that isn't this discord [and the provided links], the subreddit [and the provided links] or pokecommunity [and the provided links] is not safe

[pulsar latch]

or is it just using the first game as a base?

[prime dust]

the download may contain malware or viruses

the sequel is a separate game, it uses the same code language and pokemon essentials version that the base game uses, the only key difference is it is 100% hoenn

while the base game is restricted to kanto and johto

[pulsar latch]

okey ty

[slim otter]

I guess I'd rather have people ask and not read the pins than have people download the malware out there claiming to be the nonexistent hoenn demo

Slowly working on this massive thing kept me sane through the tedium of team blitz prep today
Behold, my complete additions tierlist, with separate categories for possible additions and form changes

[prime dust]

list rendered invalid because the monkeys aren't in their own tier at the very bottom

[slim otter]

I like the monkeys

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/therussianbadger-banished-shadow-realm-war-thunder-gif-11682091297041960204

[slim otter]

https://tenor.com/view/starts-a-fire-pansear-pansage-pokémon-concierge-lights-a-fire-gif-12603390267459288587

[summer apex]

why do you hate my boy heliolisk

[hushed axle]

How you gonna want combee and not want vespiqueen

[prime dust]

he knows what he did

[slim otter]

The same way I want Salandit and not Salazzle

[slim otter]

I don't hate any Pokémon on this list

[summer apex]

lies

I know you secretly hate [insert thing I like]

[slim otter]

I've just never been too enthused by Helioptile and Heliolisk's designs

[slim otter]

That's right
I hate soup

[summer apex]

what's not to love

[slim otter]

Heliolisk has a good shape, it could probably be made cooler with fusion

But Helioptile has always just seemed sort of bland to me

[hushed axle]

Y'know, fair

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/heliolisk-pokemon-electric-normal-lizard-gif-26451438

[hushed axle]

God he's so dumb

[slim otter]

Imagine a regional Heliolisk that's a Water type

Let's have a basilisk that can actually run on water

[hushed axle]

Okay wait but that'd be funny as fuck

[molten loom]

Same run cycle as well

[slim otter]

Exactly
That's why Heliolisk runs like that at all

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/soup-im-at-the-soup-store-code-geass-suzaku-gif-15107405

[summer apex]

heliolisk is one of my three favorite pokemon

I may be a bit biased

[slim otter]

I used to have in the forms section a "Please Please Please" tier for Hisuian Growlithe, Hisuian Arcanine, and Hisuian Decidueye, but then I remembered PLA is gen 8 and not 7

[molten loom]

-# No hisui liligant?

[full bison]

I would be interested in Heliolisk purely because I love making weather teams and it would have so many options for being on one

Secondary Normal would probably be annoying for making some fusions though, considering I don't recall it having many good Normal STAB options

[crystal cosmos]

Wtf man I thought we were friends

[slim otter]

I hate eating soup

Drinking soup?

I hate eating and drinking soup

It's nice enough to look at

[hushed axle]

Depends on the soup

[crystal cosmos]

Yeah true

[slim otter]

Soup consumption

[summer apex]

Razor Wind, Giga Impact, Hyper Beam are the only ones that really stand out- but you could also get some pretty good normal STABs from whatever you fuse it with

[hushed axle]

I'm always down for a good tomato soup with grilled cheese tho

[slim otter]

But it could be, looking back, that I'm allergic to a lot of soups

[hushed axle]

If you get your portions right, you don't have any soup left to drink because it all goes on the grilled cheese

[slim otter]

That would explain why I was the only one who found it spicy

[summer apex]

sapphire what's your LEAST favorite pokemon type

[hushed axle]

Rock is one of them

[arctic hemlock]

Do we know the release date for pif hoenn yet?

[hushed axle]

It just feels like ground but more useless

[summer apex]

release date is RIGHT NOW

[arctic hemlock]

💀

[summer apex]

ope too late

missed the window

it's gone again

[hushed axle]

Yea, I'd say rock

[summer apex]

fair. I don't like dragon myself

[hushed axle]

I like plenty of rock type mons but the type itself just feels lackluster

[crystal cosmos]

I don’t like Grass type

[hushed axle]

And so many rock types get ground type as well which just makes them so much weaker

[crystal cosmos]

Too many weaknesses

[molten loom]

Pokemon player doesn't like grass?

[crystal cosmos]

Shocking revelation

[full bison]

Bug is a type I have mixed feelings on

[hushed axle]

Who woulda thunk

[summer apex]

just got a message request from someone who only shares this server with me but has never sent any messages

I'm thinking 90% chance of spam, 10% someone who saw me yap about doing art requests and now wants me to draw something very specific

either way, I'm not responding

[crystal cosmos]

I’m betting potential scam

[summer apex]

they broke the ONE rule in my about me and just said "yo"

[full bison]

"That sign won't stop me cause I can't read"

[summer apex]

I'm... just now realizing I have a role I didn't know about

since when is "Regular Chatter" a thing

am I being called out for yapping

[dense cosmos]

Is release date a date roll cookie? 🤔
-# jk

[slim otter]

You've proved that you're sentient through chatting

[summer apex]

ah is that like image perms

[full bison]

Nothing wrong with yapping on a dedicated yap site/app

[slim otter]

No, called out for yapping is when Discord told me at the end of the year that the amount of messages I'd sent placed me in the top 0.8% of users

[summer apex]

that's not that bad really

[dense cosmos]

I have yap role too
Prob gastly messing around

[summer apex]

1% of ALL discord users?

[crystal cosmos]

We are no longer Ghastly’s Test Subjects

[slim otter]

I bet the people above me are the people who

sent messages

[crystal cosmos]

We are now Regilar Chatters

[slim otter]

like this

[dense cosmos]

Are you sure

[slim otter]

We are no longer aware of being Gastly's test subjects

[crystal cosmos]

Not publically at least

[slim otter]

My least favorite type is Steel

Yes, there are good Steel types

But I just don't vibe with it

Let's combine Rock, Ground, and Steel into Earth type

[dense cosmos]

Earth is also grass

[full bison]

Steel can stay distinct

[slim otter]

I reject the "earth is plants" uh
translation? explanation?

[crystal cosmos]

Hell no let’s not combine one of best offensive typings with one of best defensive typings

[slim otter]

What is the word
Not theory

[summer apex]

interpretation!

[slim otter]

YES

Thank you

[dense cosmos]

Grass, rock, fire, steel, electric, wind, and ground type!

[summer apex]

you all should be very proud of me for spelling that right on the first try

[slim otter]

Steel is cold and not comfortable

[crystal cosmos]

Dex Manager forgets words smh my head

[light garden]

I don't think "Managerforgetswordssmhmyhead" is in PIF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?

[slim otter]

It's because I have too many of them

[summer apex]

I love the dex command so fucking much

[full bison]

There should be 3 types: Earth, Alien, and Ultra Beast

[slim otter]

Dex fun

[light garden]

I don't think "Fun" is in PIF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?

[hushed axle]

People have asked for me to fix it

I don't wanna

[summer apex]

two types

friend and foe

[molten loom]

It's funny, it should stay

[hushed axle]

That's what I said

[crystal cosmos]

Fix it by making it activate randomly without even saying dex

[slim otter]

Why are Alien and Ultra Beast separate

[molten loom]

Just look at the pins of #artwork

[summer apex]

elgyem

[full bison]

Aliens share a dimension with us, UBs dont

[slim otter]

Okay
So alien meaning not alien to this dimension but still alien to earth

We can make Clefairy alien type

Wipe all the types
Contest types are the only types now

[dense cosmos]

Regional clefable form that looks alien when

[full bison]

Finally, people will be forced to engage with my poll

[slim otter]

Clever, Cool, Tough, Cute, and Beauty
The only five options you need

[dense cosmos]

I am clever type

[slim otter]

Most starter lines go Cute type -> Cool type -> Tough type

A select few go Cute -> Cool -> Beauty

[full bison]

Every Pokémon now evolves by maxing out a specific contest type. No maxed type with full sheen? Enjoy being a stage 1 for your entire lifespan, buddy

[molten loom]

It's also funny when yanmega asks if you're looking for something

[slim otter]

Please don't bring back sheen

[crystal cosmos]

Be like Gen 6

Sheen is nonexistent there

[slim otter]

So are the contest types

Gen 6 had Trainer PR videos

[dense cosmos]

As far as this, how would one decide what each of those subjects are.
Everyone views those differently

[slim otter]

Game Freak would decide

The same way they decided for all the moves

[molten loom]

it gets more funny when yanmega doesn't even explain the thing

[crystal cosmos]

Oh wait I meant ORAS Gen 6

[full bison]

"Joltik doesn't count as cute cause the devs are arachnophobic, too bad."

[crystal cosmos]

They had contests with th 5 stats

[slim otter]

Flamethrower? A thing of beauty. Lick? Now there's a tough move

[jolly sleet]

hoenn still isnt out right?

[full bison]

Brave Bird is the cutest thing ever

[slim otter]

Yeah, I liked the way stats were handled in the ORAS contests

[dense cosmos]

The pins, you must read

[slim otter]

I completed all the master class contests in Alpha Sapphire

Annoying Altaria with a different moveset every contest

[crystal cosmos]

Good, now you must do BDSP Brilliant/Shining Contest for the final contest ribbon

[slim otter]

Beat Up and Dig are shining examples of intelligence

Yeah, I never finished all the master class contests in platinum

I can't get the number one best poffins since I never have anyone else around with the game, so the only one I beat was the Beauty Master Class Contest

[crystal cosmos]

I can send a ribbon guide if want

It has good tips for getting the contests

[full bison]

Real talk though, i would love a game dedicated to Pokémon contests

[slim otter]

I think it would be fun to have the Spectacular Talents in PIFH

We should be able to take this thing and have it use Pretty Shining Road

[slim otter]

Oh, I've studied it plenty
Part of winning is just hoping that you don't run into Joanna

I had an Omanyte all set to go for the Cuteness Contests, but I made a mistake, and that was the end of its Sheen

I also stink at the hardest mode of the rhythm game

[crystal cosmos]

Well filling its ball capsule with stickers also helps if you haven’t done that

[slim otter]

My wonderful Pokémon that screams YSSWLSKHSTALAJ when I send it out because most of my seal stickers are letters

I wish they kept doing seals, even if they dumbed it down

[crystal cosmos]

stickers also have matching contest type boosts

[slim otter]

"Here's a bubble seal, it lets you give one Pokémon a bubble effect"

That could be a cool idea for PIFH too

[full bison]

They definitely won't allow seals to return for multiplayer at least. It's basically the visual version of Chatot with Chatter

[slim otter]

Just one seal per pokeball would still be cool

[slim otter]

Well, not with letters at least

[crystal cosmos]

I would love to have Pokemon titles for PIFH

[slim otter]

I don't need to be able to mix and match stickers for each seal

I'm just imagining something like how seals work in the anime

[summer apex]

we have to recognize the good it brought, too

without letter seals we would never have gotten gay darkrai

[molten loom]

We would have, just would take longer, but the internet would get there at some point

[slim otter]

I just really like the names for the Spectacular Talents

[hidden relic]

[slim otter]

Global Shuddering! Proven Sagacity! Moonshadow Sorrow!

[crystal cosmos]

• Donkey Kong

[slim otter]

Don't you want to send out your Spheal fusion and have it use Agony Theater

[full bison]

Didn't the Steel ones have super crazy Latin names? Those were my favorites

Looked it up and they're literally latin versions of popular phrases.

Audaces Fortuna Iuvat = Fortune Favors the Brave

[remote crest]

Hey I just came back to IF after 2 years or so

what is this? basically plans for a new game?

or an expansion a la johto in the OG game

[tacit saddle]

Sequel

Whole new game

FAQ in pinned

[remote crest]

awesome!

[tacit saddle]

We've been ironing out bugs

Demo to be expected soon, maybe by the end of the month

[inland jewel]

1-3 months is the timeframe

[dense cosmos]

Unless Archie floods hoenn, then we have to wait longer for release

[gray stream]

Subnautica

[molten loom]

And bashing our heads into walls

[tacit saddle]

Literally and figuratively!

[dense cosmos]

Make sure to repair the walls
Especially as one is a user here in discord server

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/week-11-minutes-spongebob-give-gif-26150156

[velvet root]

Why does Sawk look like a buff Pillager to me

https://tenor.com/view/sawk-pokémon-sawk-sawk-uses-bulk-up-gif-25731657

https://tenor.com/view/pillager-gif-25654124

[rancid nymph]

Because you need to get your eyes checked

[earnest timber]

any idea when its gonna be released

?

[trail hull]

it means check pins

[stoic plume]

i think it's the facial structure, especially the squidward nose that makes it look like that. i personally just see a muppet doing jojo poses but that's a me problem

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/hellsing-uultimate-abridged-hellsing-ultimate-jojo-reference-reference-alucard-gif-3342542493514612709

[full bison]

I normally find the criticism meaningless and annoying, but Sawk and Throh are the two Pokémon that I immediately think of when I think "they don't even look like Pokemon"

And also the Ultra Beasts, but that's intentional and they're more interesting for it

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-line-anthony-mackie-sam-wilson-falcon-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-gif-21182970

Side note, I actually started watching Jojo recently

[atomic hornet]

That would be cool! Personally it could happen, maybe, but more than likely it won't

[tacit saddle]

Damn

Look my job is to keep people on their toes

[atomic hornet]

Haha just want to make sure no one gets their hopes up, just in case

[slim otter]

In order for us to release PIFH, you must bring us... a shrubbery!

[crystal cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-palin-monty-python-holy-grail-knights-who-say-ni-shrubbery-gif-18773179

Done

[dense cosmos]

it shall be done, knights of Ni

[atomic hornet]

[lean walrus]

Ernie and Bert are just overall weird, and are yet another entry into the "why are these things evolving to have clothes?!" following onto granddaddy machamp

[dense cosmos]

I have found the shrubbery!
And these strange creatures.

[full bison]

Grass type Mimikyu and Bloo from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends

[hidden relic]

What Sino meant to say is by the end of "a* month clearly

As for which one, whatever fits our narrative the best

[atomic hornet]

There we go

[hushed axle]

Markdown fail

[hidden relic]

what do "you* mean

[earnest timber]

I can’t wait for this to be released

[vivid pagoda]

this is till being worked on right? is there a release date yet?

[quaint yarrow]

I can't believe Mario is gonna be in this game

[lilac helm]

I had an insane shower thought about adding the world tournament form b2w2 into PIF Hoeen and just making it Pasio from PoMas

Then I could finally get canari added to the game

[dim sparrow]

hey chat when does the game relea- 🧷 📌 📍 🧷 📌 📍 🧷 📌 📍 💥

[dense cosmos]

The temptation to pin that more is strong

[fringe forge]

idk what ill do when pif hoenn comes out
the near daily pins is so fun

😭

[trail hull]

don't worry once pif hoenn demo releases a bunch of people will come here and ask the same questions

[fringe forge]

true!

[crystal cosmos]

Demo comes out: When’s the full game being released?

[trail hull]

once demo comes out: why can't I continue after slateport? Why is x pokemon not catchable in the demo? Where to get x pokemon (it's not catchable in the demo)? When is full game releasing? Since hoenn is a new game can we get gen 8 mons? I'm in johto how do I unlock hoenn?

[crystal cosmos]

I’m in Hoenn how do I go back to Kanto?

[trail hull]

and the worse one: can I remove fusiosn rom the game?

[molten loom]

We already get the last 3

[trail hull]

I know but they will appear twice as often

[fringe forge]

god i feel like the hoenn chat should have a timeout system for annoying questions

give them time to read the pins

[crystal cosmos]

How would they do that tho?

They can’t read

[fringe forge]

during the timeout they will have time to learn to read

🗿

[trail hull]

this chat will definitely get a cooldown ocne the demo releases

[fringe forge]

needed

cant wait to see the same 4 questions in this chat after the demo comes out

[trail hull]

with the occasionnal how do I downlaod the demo

[fringe forge]

[crystal cosmos]

And the “how do I transfer mons from 1 to 2”

[pale sparrow]

why wait, just go to #general

(I say, not having been in #general in years and thus not actually knowing what it looksl ike)

[fringe forge]

i talk in general near daily and it pissses me off sometimes 😭

[molten loom]

Right now, complaints about fandom

[pale sparrow]

sounds epic

[dense cosmos]

Answer: you swim
-# I am going to use this answer for anyone who also asks how to get to hoenn from Kanto or johto.

[fringe forge]

"how to get surfboard in demo
i want to go to the elite 4"

[dense cosmos]

"How can I get the Boots in demo?"

[molten loom]

go fish, you'll find some old ones

[crystal cosmos]

“Why can’t I beat the Elite Four”

[full bison]

"How do I get past this guy to get to Mauville?"

[fringe forge]

we all are joking but i sense some of these questions will be asked in the future

[trail hull]

I was not joking when writing these querstions they are predictions

[full bison]

I was being half serious, I fully expect plenty of people that don't grasp the concept of demos asking how to get past the demo point

[fringe forge]

"why cant i go past gym 2 i explored everywhere theres a guy blocking me"

[trail hull]

Imagine someone somehow gets the boot and they wodner why there is no maps for after the guy

[rancid nymph]

Meanwhile there’s probably going to be text that says you’re done with the demo

[dense cosmos]

I can guarantee that there will be someone who throws a fit over these answers.
-# as there usually is

[fringe forge]

"what is a demo? why cant i progress"

[trail hull]

if it isn't a full screen change and just an npc dialogue it will be skipped

oopsie forgot to unping

[full bison]

How many do you think haven't played Hoenn and will just bash their heads against the rocks in Rusturf Tunnel wondering how to get past them

[fringe forge]

alot.
theres plenty of people who didnt even play kanto so ye
and hoenn is less popular

[dense cosmos]

Paimon: let's explore the rest of hoenn later.
Unhappy user: no! We go now!

[rancid nymph]

And Kanto is more recent as well

[fringe forge]

every few days someone is asking "how to wake snorlax up" or some shit like that
thats a 100% sign they didnt play kanto

[dense cosmos]

Questions asked by new to hoenn players:
"Why is this old man yelling at me to save him on route 1 instead of letting me leave?"
"How do I get to lava ridge town? The tunnel just leads to the other side of the desert."
"Why can't I enter the desert?"

[prime dust]

no, the scary bit is...we could very well have people in here and their first pokemon game was sw/sh

[glass finch]

Oh Boy, Thats Concerning

The Obvious Hoenn Question Not The SW/SH Fans

[rancid nymph]

I feel bad for them

[trail hull]

sws was peak

I love it back when I was in middle school

[prime dust]

gestures at the trees in sw/sh that look like they are from the n64/gamecube era

[rancid nymph]

SWSH was disappointing even ignoring the unjustified dex cut

Also, no one cares about the trees

[prime dust]

the lorax cares about the trees

[glass finch]

People Definitely Do

[trail hull]

it's crazy to think that the most recent mons that can get into pif (aka the youngest) are 10 years old

[prime dust]

no?

gen 7 is more than 10 years old

[trail hull]

gen 7 was for the 20th anniversary

the 30th is this year

[hushed axle]

SM came out 2016

[prime dust]

correction...they aren't 10 yet

god time is an illusion

[molten loom]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kuniharu-saiki-saiki-k

[trail hull]

too bad I screenshot your mistake

[prime dust]

meh

[glass finch]

Dialga Isn't An Illusion

[rancid nymph]

He didn’t delete his mistake

[trail hull]

it was a just in case

[trail hull]

once pif hoenn is fully released in 2027-2028 maybe we will be bale to get more recent generations mons

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-lol-haha-hahahahaha-bender-gif-8717975687263405009

[prime dust]

i doubt it

going off the old message frog sent [in response to something i said]

it is pretty much off the table for a good while, just due to stability sake

so both games would need to be "finished" aside from the gen 8+ mons before he would likely consider it

[trail hull]

that's why I said fully released

[prime dust]

those are 2 different things

I very much doubt that in the next 2 years we will get the remaining 300 or so pokemon left to be added in from gens 4-7

it is probably less but I don't feel like counting

[slim otter]

Aw, it's so cute
You can have PIFH

Just wait for us to finish making it

[rancid nymph]

Honestly the full game might not even be out in 2028

[fringe forge]

the game is never coming out

its myth

[prime dust]

I think Frog tries to keep the number of additions under 100, since it puts a LOT of strain on the spriters

though that strain was partly due to the gratuitous amount of events for 6.0

[slim otter]

For some players, PIF is their first Pokémon experience ever

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/aragog-we-do-not-speak-of-it-harry-potter-chamber-of-secrets-harry-potter-chamber-of-secrets-gif-10584152205073767257

[fringe forge]

thats wild

[slim otter]

Yeah, we still haven't gotten the hoenn additions up to a good number of sprites yet

[trail hull]

well we get additions every year

[prime dust]

i dont't think we'll get more this year

outside maybe one more joke addition

because phimsch

[slim otter]

Well, I have to speak of it
People be writing fusion pokedex entries assuming that everyone knows that Voltorb explodes

[hushed axle]

Yea, the most common complaint for the demo is gonna be the amount of autogens, I can already see it

[slim otter]

Only because everything else is looking so awesome

[trail hull]

luckily team wild has been hard at work to reduce autogens you encoutner in the wild

[slim otter]

Actually, most common complaint is gonna be that it's a demo instead of the full game

[prime dust]

my complaint is that it lacks shrubbery

[slim otter]

That, and "it's too hard to download"

[hushed axle]

But fusions in the wild are somewhat rare. It’s gonna be people trying to fuse and getting a lot of autogens

[slim otter]

I don't think it lacks shrubbery

[hushed axle]

I’ve played the demo already, there’s a fuck ton of autogens

[trail hull]

oh didn't think of that

yeah

[molten loom]

oh no we got that

[hushed axle]

That’s only because the wind got fixed

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-palin-monty-python-holy-grail-knights-who-say-ni-shrubbery-gif-18773179

[trail hull]

I know that team hoenn (had or has) a cross chart containing all the early mon

[full bison]

We have a team dedicated to making sprites for wild Autogens, don't we?

[slim otter]

Can you tell us how soon you unlock the ability to transfer Pokémon between games

[hushed axle]

Right now, you don’t because it’s not implemented in PIF 1

[molten loom]

Its after a certain point

[slim otter]

True

[molten loom]

Mostly fixed, it did take some trees away

[slim otter]

I had to read that a few times to get what you meant

I just meant like what part in the game it's planned for

[molten loom]

It's fairly early

[slim otter]

Like, "not until you get one gym badge" or something like that

[hushed axle]

Yea, it’s fairly early

[slim otter]

That's cool

[hushed axle]

I don’t remember when exactly

But it’s in the demo

[molten loom]

i do, also my first save missed it for ages because of a certain thing

[slim otter]

I formed an emotional attachment to one of my PIF mons, and I'm trying to figure out how to get that same species in pifh

[hushed axle]

Keep in mind, that’s always subject to change if frog wants to change it

[slim otter]

Anyways
I found this fish tier list
https://tiermaker.com/create/fish-pokmon-gen-1-9-16128301

[hushed axle]

I think there’s also a good chance that by the time the demo comes out, it still won’t be implemented into PIF 1

[slim otter]

We can discuss our fish wishes

Yeah

[hushed axle]

That way it promotes the use of new mons instead of the old ones

[prime dust]

paya was saying something along those lines yesterday

it keeps the exclusive mons exclusive for a bit

[hushed axle]

Was that here? I couldn’t remember if it was here or in pory chat so good to know it was public

[prime dust]

yes it was

#pif-hoenn-discussion message

[hushed axle]

Perfect

[prime dust]

i assume there will likely be a second demo that goes further in Hoenn once Frog is ready to add it in that way the masses can brute force test for bugs and what not

[pale sparrow]

it has mantyke but not mantine lol

[prime dust]

we definately won't break anything

[molten loom]

I've already done that

[hushed axle]

I'd assume the transfer won't be available until pretty close to release tbh

[hushed axle]

Mantine is in the game

[slim otter]

Sooo, unless you get creative with the definition of a fish, as Frog has said he will have to one day, there aren't a ton of options

[slim otter]

The tierchart has mantyke but not mantine

[pale sparrow]

I mean the tierlist

Alomomola will be next for sure

https://giphy.com/gifs/agree-renzufu-dacc-zmVgFyJ4WevoU021NV

[slim otter]

Probably
I don't really want it

It's like bigger Luvdisc but hugs instead of kisses

[pale sparrow]

It gives good exp like audino, right?

[slim otter]

I think so

[pale sparrow]

or did I make that up?

[slim otter]

Maybe we both made it up

[pale sparrow]

so at least it gives me something else other than chansey to plot on remix routes for people to grind on

[molten loom]

several times, also my game might be haunted

[slim otter]

Fsr I mostly remember it from Poképark 2

[hushed axle]

I don't feel like alomomola will give us good diversity in fusions. It's literally just luvdisc but beeg

[molten loom]

true

[slim otter]

Watch as everyone misspells it in their galposts

[pale sparrow]

it gives unique body fusions, so its better than plusle and latios

[wicked heath]

Give me Lumineon

[trail hull]

Is it bad if I say that I'm hyped for all of them except basculin? Like from the one that can get in they all have a lto of potential (except basculin)

[slim otter]

No
We like fish around here

[pale sparrow]

that would be so epic

I love that guy

[trail hull]

lumineon is the oen I want most

[slim otter]

I like Basculin because it's a normal fish

[trail hull]

second is wishiwashi

[slim otter]

Lumineon has the most fusion potential

[hushed axle]

I think Lumin-

[trail hull]

3rd is alomomola

[hushed axle]

yea, what real said

[trail hull]

and last is basculin because the other have a lot more potential

[wicked heath]

Wishiwashi would be fun too

[full bison]

I'm just sad Whiscash never got a chance to be a troll fish. Imagine Frog hyping the server up with a Master Ball slowly opening every day for a weak, only to end it with this

[pale sparrow]

I love that guy too

[slim otter]

I like Wishiwashi's solo form

Lil fish

[molten loom]

its a trick and we get the ultra beast jellyfish

[slim otter]

The schooling form is okay

[pale sparrow]

I love that guy too

[full bison]

Please please PLEASE

[trail hull]

also trollfish is associated with water type , wanna know what's water tyoe? Panpour ,so panpour will get in as the next fishmas(and inivite its sibling too) . Source: trust me bro

[hushed axle]

I don't think we'll get another trollfish until Hoenn mons get more completion

[wicked heath]

Wishiwashi-School/Lopunny where all the fish are surrounding a comparatively teeny bnuuy body would be fun

[molten loom]

trollfish not always related to water, look at stunfisk

[trail hull]

it was a joke

[hushed axle]

There is a single trollfish I want though and nobody will ever guess it

Well, Pory would because we talked about it

[trail hull]

we are over 50% completions , frog love to bring us down under 50

[full bison]

Hear me out: Phione

[slim otter]

Is it a form change?

[hushed axle]

But the hoenn mons are so under-sprited

[rancid nymph]

I would love for frillish to be the troll fish, but I think Frog already confirmed that it won't be

[trail hull]

I'm literally in the picture

[trail hull]

[slim otter]

Maybe if we get one really good mon, people will want to sprite the hoenn mons fused with it

[hushed axle]

He also lies (Peep: "There will never be a sequel")

[green laurel]

when we getting wishiwashi??

[molten loom]

and "there will never be [Redacted]"

[full bison]

Wormadam with Wormalgam Triple Fusion

[slim otter]

Soonest expected date: Some time in December
Latest expected date: never

[hushed axle]

I can't tell if you mean this as a joke but it's true

[trail hull]

biggest frog lies:
-There will never more mon after 420 mons
-There will never be custom dex entries
-There will never be character customization (unsure)
-There will never be a sequel

[hushed axle]

There is one other thing that frog said there wouldn't be that's gonna be in the demo

[molten loom]

yes joke and truth

[slim otter]

"We're not adding new Pokémon for this event"

[trail hull]

proceeds to add 64 new mons

[hushed axle]

"Will there ever be any translations?"

https://tenor.com/view/dc-dc-comics-comics-comic-comicbooks-gif-9220203863894404856

[slim otter]

I thought the answer to that was always "do it yourself"

And then the french did it themselves

[hushed axle]

It's in the FAQ

[trail hull]

the faq needs to be updated

[prime dust]

it'll be another 10 years before Hoenn has a translation

[molten loom]

yeah thats what I was referring too, assuming we mean the same thing

[hushed axle]

I did get the green light to update it, I’ve just been busy with other things

[trail hull]

oh ok

[prime dust]

i assume it goes from NO to "No guarantees"

[trail hull]

so quit chatting and do it (jk)

[slim otter]

It's a busy time for staff right now

[hushed axle]

It’s even busier for admins right now

[prime dust]

?tag fun

[opal trail]

Please contact a server physician if you're experiencing any of the symptoms.

[slim otter]

dex fun

[light garden]

I don't think "Fun" is in PIF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?

[molten loom]

very busy

[hushed axle]

I also haven’t officially announced it yet, but|| I also got frog to green light a bug fixing team||

[wicked heath]

PIF Hoenn leak
Fusion now works like it does in Shin Megami Tensei, oops

[trail hull]

fusing pikachu and bulbasaur gives us stunfisk

[wicked heath]

Yea probably

[slim otter]

PIF Hoenn leak
Fusion now works like Cow Evolution

[trail hull]

I have no idea what this mean but hooray

[trail hull]

like irl evolution?

[slim otter]

||Frog has approved a group of people to go into the code and fix problems as they're found||

[slim otter]

Cow Evolution is this weird game that was very briefly popular
You drag two cows together to fuse them into a sort of self fusion
Then you can fuse those self fusions
And that quadruple fusion can be fused with quadruple fusions

So you drag together an exponentially increasing number of cows to discover new kinds of cows

[molten loom]

there were multiple games like it

[slim otter]

I mean this in the nicest way possible
It's very autistic

[trail hull]

oh I know this kind of game

[trail hull]

a specific one or everyone can dive in and fix?

[molten loom]

I would say something against it, but I played them as a child

[slim otter]

It's a good game if you like doing repetitive things for gradual gain

[hushed axle]

It’s gonna be a helper role. They’ll go through #1142871804269052004 and fix bugs that are reported there for frog to implement

[slim otter]

Very impressive, given how hard it is to collaborate on code with the game engine

[hushed axle]

It’ll be kinda adjacent to the current tech support role

[trail hull]

that's so nice

[hushed axle]

They won’t have access to any of the game files, it will still be on frog to implement the fixes. Kinda like how #1052360360172199977 works with paya and I being the ones who implement the fixes

[trail hull]

so more time for frog to code new features sicne other peopel can fix the code

[slim otter]

This will be the fishmas addition, trust

[green laurel]

its gotta be now

[trail hull]

what is the head

[slim otter]

This is Wishiwashi body, Basculin fins, Lumineon face, Finneon tail, and Alomomola colors

[wicked heath]

The first Quintet Fusion

[slim otter]

Japeal has a fakemon maker as well as a fusion generator
https://japeal.com/fmm/

[hushed axle]

Wow who is this japeal guy

[molten loom]

its the guy who made the site that the first pin in #fusions leads to, totally just that

[hushed axle]

[molten loom]

said link also does not work

[wicked heath]

Check out my creature

[slim otter]

I love it

[trail hull]

Nice

Now sprite or for real

[wicked heath]

Absol face, Sylveon body, Leafeon legs, Pidgeotto wings, Altaria colours

[trail hull]

I can’t wait for pif hoenn demo o release

[slim otter]

Let's add this guy

[trail hull]

It will be the only pif version I’ll actually finish

[trail hull]

Just an other hypothetical to spark up an other discussion

Do you guys really think sinnoh is getting added?

[viscid fossil]

Do we not already have that

That's better

[trail hull]

Oh my it says sinning not sinnoh

I love autocorrect

[full bison]

I'm on team Battle Frontier till the end

[trail hull]

Personally I think sinnoh won’t get added because it would be too formule, and like kanto and johto are more closely connected then any other region

[velvet root]

Didnt find the download button

[proud lion]

Agreed

Even if Sinnoh is my goat

[flint tiger]

they gotta at least add the pikaclone from sinnoh

[full bison]

It is kinda crazy how we haven't had any Pikaclones added to the roster besides Plusle and Minun. Pachi especially I figured was popular enough to get in by now

[hidden relic]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cinema-absolute-absolutecinema-9EvnXdZaUZbCqScn67

[inland jewel]

to be fair, each new update the french translation team had to start over from scratch, the reason why its supported now is due to no plans on changing PIF 1, so they just added the work the translation team had done to the game

and like, there is next to no chance for any new update to come and break the french translation anymore

[hidden relic]

Only chance that could happen is like

If Frog actually ever does add Olivine and the other Johto city that I'm forgetting

Cianwood that's the one

[molten loom]

He has said he has plans for them in the future, but they're not really high priority

[hidden relic]

Yeah that's why I said what I said

[alpine rune]

What would he even add?

Besides moving the gym leaders back

[green laurel]

safari zone for PIF:Hoenn mons

[dense cosmos]

I keep forgetting hoenn has a safari zone

[green laurel]

i meant johto but yes

[stray spear]

hatsune miku

naked monkey

naked monkey will be in pif hoenn

[fringe forge]

cant wait for naked monkey

[wicked heath]

New PIF leak

[wicked heath]

Might have to sprote this too

[thin pawn]

will pif hoenn come out in 2020

[fringe forge]

no
the planned release window is 2014

[vagrant ferry]

You guys don’t have access? I’m playing it rn

smacking Archie as we speak

[surreal jackal]

my baby

[ivory seal]

Is that a Torterra Shiinotic?

[slim otter]

Something like that #pif-hoenn-discussion message

I see Shiinotic body, Lileep face, Arbok tail

Gogoat legs

Wings seem to be Articuno

I'm not certain about the hands or colors

[ivory seal]

Colors definitely torterra I know it

Hands are probably lurantis

[slim otter]

Torterra doesn't have tan
It could be Gogoat colors

[ivory seal]

Oooooh I did not know this, you’re good at this

[slim otter]

Platinum was my first Pokémon game
I spent a lot of time looking at the back side of a Torterra

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/whimsicott-punch-fight-gif-2031466937943953774

[slim otter]

Could also be that

[velvet root]

Yooo gogoat colors and hooves

And ik gogoat is basically whimsi colord

But let me dream

[surreal jackal]

lol it was actually gogoat's palette

(also it's leavanny's hands )

[velvet root]

SO I DID SEE RIGHT

[bronze veldt]

Have there been any updates on pif hoenn?

Like what generations of pokemon it will include

Or when beta drops

[warm skiff]

actually i ate the files where pif hoenn was stored so frog has to start aaaaall over again

[trail hull]

rude

you should have left soem for me

[inland jewel]

all of gen 3, and select mons from each ( those announced and in the existing dex)

other than the announced mons, no NEW mons will be added

unless it was seen in the demo showcase or announced, the rest of the mons are a tossup between the 501 in the PIf dex.

[vernal scroll]

hello

[steep glen]

Out of curiosity any chance of it having a movie city. Pokemon Venice would be cool to visit

[undone stirrup]

Also is Pokedex going to follow same order?

(at least the in game Pokedex sorting)

[inland jewel]

probably, since we aren't changing the sprite numbers to reflect that

[undone stirrup]

Idk if server have a suggestion channel but it would be useful to have a sorting option to sort by Hoenn's progress

276-Treecko
277- Grovyle
278- Sceptile
...
380- Deoxys
1- Bulbasaur
...
500- Diancie

(and normal number order for those who want it too)

[prime dust]

#game-suggestions

I think Frog would like to order it correctly at some point, but it is low priority

since it will require a metric ton of work

[undone stirrup]

Renaming and stuff for every dex entry and sprite

[prime dust]

yeah, both base and fusion

it isn't something that will be done anytime soon

[hushed axle]

I think we should just add all gens 1-7 and revert to nat dex numbers

[molten loom]

We should actually just randomize them to cause chaos

[analog belfry]

add victini but make its dex number 0

[prime dust]

only if dex slot 1 is taken up by 4 pokemon

Bulbasaur
Arceus
Mew
Rhydon

[tight raft]

I am so excited for my favourite baby to be reborn into infinite fusion. :)

I love that Pokemon is a world where you make eye contact with an elementary schooler and then crush their level 20 pigeon with a 2 ton walrus from a baseball sized sphere.

[inland jewel]

the pidgeon will have to wait since its not in

crushing a swallow or a seagull is on the menu though

[full bison]

The pigeon will probably be one of the last additions, I would go so far as to say

[inland jewel]

I think Pidove has a market, especially since you have 2 different forms to sprite

so as a spriter it does have something different from the other regional birds