#pif-hoenn-discussion
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Damn Walrein's BST spread meant his best fusion is gonna be as an Ice head...
Another Cloyster story 😔
There isn't a recording of that demo livestream from a couple days ago available anywhere, right?
it's on youtube
oh dip, thanks!
welp, i tried updating my Q&A with the rest of the questions but i deleted it lmao
trying to repost the questions and theyyre not showing up
is there a release date yet?
Is randomizer mode already pre-planned for hoenn?
I ran out of nitro space 🥲
You replied to the faq I made, did you not read the part about shines being visible in the overworld?
People are telling you to read what I spent so much time writing up, and you said you're too lazy. Then I guess I'm too lazy to answer any more of your questions 
You should try to read NPC dialogue! They give very good hints on how to continue the game. Sometimes they also give you items! Don't forget to talk to NPC's and read what they say.
Yes
Nah. What makes shinies special is how rare they are. Being able to adjust the shiny odds however you want just makes them worthless.
"look at this sand castle I'm making. It's so cool"
"Waaaah, my sand castle"
worth it
Lol
Frog made that function a priority, just like I said the beach ball was a must 
I Hope karma doesn’t return or return with a lot more presence
People have said my voice in the dev update sounds like Ai. Maybe I am
pory was writing all my lines for the stream
Lol
To be fair, karma was added way after the fact. Starting off with a clean slate makes things more fleshed out
yooo... PIF got a new AI assistant now
oh that's actually really good
Please paya tell me where the nearest McDonald’s is
I spent a lot of time playing cd rom barbie games growing up 
Oh yeah please I don’t want this Christmas ruined
it's still spooky month... why is everyone already talking about christmas
It’s November my guy
It’s November
nuh uh... it's october the 41th
I think we should automod a random letter for Christmas 
Nooo not the payai 
It should be f so people can’t say hi to frog
Hi Chardub 
People don’t read the bio 
That was so fucking funny, we'll never let him forget that 
Wait , a random letter was automodded?
What was on the bio?
Frog did an everyone ping for a big announcement, and he was automodded 
Omg that's hilarious
I was talking about Vince’s lil fuckup
lol
Omg I forgot about that!! 😂
Vince accidentally made it so every message was being automodded as a fake site 
That was beautiful
If we ever want some peace and quiet in the server we can just quietly enable that 
That’s what I’m saying, I can have Christmas off again 
Quick flip a coin heads we do it tails we flip the coin again
It feels like I'm seeing a war crime slowly unravel

Will there ever be new gens in this game?
Gen 8+? No
Why tho?
Read the pins
Cause of modern moves and all that junk
we'll get gen 0.5, gen -17 and gen ∞ ...
||i feel like I don't have to say that I'm joking, but just in case, here's this one sentence.||
It was successful at preventing spam from being posted
Literally every question you have asked is in there

Yeah no downsides
the subnautica server has this little bot (the same one that usually answers questions in this server), that would point out to the pins, if a question about the upcoming game was asked, that had been answered several times already.
I feel like the staff should be taking notes
We just all turn off dms and kick back and relax 😎
Nah i think
and
works fine
Well about that... we do have yanmega 
Maybe a tag but I think that now we are equipped
it would be chaos in here
we do have #fusion-faq and
but they always are ignored
and people have out and stated that just asking almost always has a person answer them so they don't have to read
or search themselves
I think a general read the pins tag could be nice cause we do also have alot of quest guides in the pins and stuff
Could make a yanmega autoresponse that literally just says “read the pins” 
So pif hoenn is a new game so what is the game I am playing currently pif kanto?
Hey sapph, you busy? 
I’m still in bed 
that's what I'm saying...
But I don’t wanna get pinged because I talk about gen 8
?tag immunity
🔇 Yanmega Immunity 🔇
Go to #roles and react with 🔇
Get this to prevent Yanmega from giving you game help in any channel outside #ask-a-bot
(will only prevent triggering the automated help such as "where do i find x", "how to evolve x", etc. commands like dex, statblock, etc that arent meant to be triggered by normal sentences are unaffected)
I just rolled out of bed
Same
I’ll get there eventually
.
Doesn’t it also prevent my sprites from being salvaged ?
I just rolled into bed.
No? Yanmega doesn’t handle that
I can certainly say that you're not playing pif hoenn if you're in kanto 
Oh ok
That’d be zig immunity iirc
We should probably try to normalise different names for each one before hoenn comes out like pifk and pifh
Grabbed it thank you
PIF 1 & PIF 2 
Pif classic
what happened to PIF 1.5?
Not to be confused with the classic mode in pif
That’s the April fools update
honestly I want to make a pif johto cause I heard johto isn't the best since its just post game. Frog wouldnt greenlight that though
||one day I'll finish whirl islands||
Or the classic mode from hoenn pif
That does work but I feel it will still get alot of questions for what region each is
So for the new game story will be new thats for sure other than that the game mechanism will be same + some new mechanics maybe huh seems pretty cool as long as the story is very good but will there be new sprites for fusions?
We already get people asking which regions will be in Hoenn 
Lol
People are making new sprites monthly
Sprites literally get added to the #sprite-gallery daily and get added to the game monthly. That’s not gonna change
btw, would PIF be considered one of the biggest pokemon fan games?
I’d say so
We’re the biggest fangame discord
fuck thats another common question. I'm gonna have to make a faq part 2 after all 😩 maybe I should make a channel after all, and then pin a link in here. but then it's even more likely to be ignored
I think so atleast I haven't played a game this big any other time
Most fangames don’t even get 5 years of consistent updates, pif is at 10 years

Yeah I think it would have to be here
unless i cut down on my answers, but I like being detailed 
Maybe order em by most asked
Just use "yes" or "no"
Okay, how about you prioritize the questions by most asked and then do an extended faq in a document that you can link? (Or a channel if you’d prefer)
Oh
So the people who don't read at least get to their question before they get bored lol
they're all important 
I still think you can release a Q&A video
I didn’t say they weren’t all important 
U need a FAQ inside the faq
that way you can go as detailed as you want, and people who don't read can just listen
People don’t listen as much as they don’t read 
Great solution but those people don't listen too
Saph U did the same thing like 5 messages ago
Y’know what, fuck it. I’m rolling out of bed and making you a doc paya 
Ernesto is slow 
Sthap you, a woman after my heart 
You have no idea Paya
That which region question could be answered like "pif hoenn will be based on the pokemons in my neighborhood like joe the bulldog and missy the black cat and so on" lol.

thing is, Pif 1 is both Kanto/Johto
so people want to know if with Hoenn, will we go to Kanto/Johto/Sinnoh/Unova, etc
Aaa makes sense tho
The only reason why Johto is attached to Kanto is cause it's based on frlg
Ha, sapphire is gay
Johto isn’t in FRLG
While it’s fun speculating hoenn isn’t even playable rn so extra region isn’t a priority
Hoenn is playable 
We had a whole ass demo showcase 
btw this is my last day before I go down to florida. I'll only be able to give a seldom amount of attention to the server for several days before the real vacay starts and then I wont have time to check in at all
just in case it's relevant
hope you enjoy florida, we're finally getting our cold weather hear so expect some wind chill in the 30s
What am I gonna do without you Paya 
Make sure U have lots of fun
I will!! 
It's okay we'll just shut down the server while she's gone
Perfect
Unless little Timmy can play it , it doesn’t count
I just feel bad leaving you guys behind. That reminds me, I have a shit ton to do so I need to dip out of here for now
Tbh the best thing the game has in my opinion are the side quests so hopefully the new game will have a lot of em
Nah don't feel bad we can hold the fort
we're planning on it!
You guys want to play with this lighter now that paya is gone?

but yeah, I'll try to get this faq business done before I go
I'll get my matches
i remember on the demo showcase someone said that it was raining in the city, what can we do here? so you should totally do quests that show up in specific weather
That's a cool idea
I’m writing up a doc rn. I’ll dm it to you when I’m done 
And maybe later on you can get a item that changes the weather like how we got the sleeping bag for time passing maybe smth like castform looking
Like a castform balloon or smth
Speaking of castform I'm absolutely doing a weather team with castform as soon as the games done
I brought the matches 
Safety ones...
Wtf
It's ok I turned the safety off on these 
Oh bet
I think they like only burn half way so they can't burn Ur fingers and U drop the match
Lame
I'll look it up
Oh the difference is they only light when U strike them against the side of the box I thought all matches were like that
Nah just need a rough surface

That actually makes sense why in Madagascar the penguins can light the match with just the other penguin 

You're right, Paya isn't a server admin
I put server admin 

Quick someone promote her!
Nah I think we just gotta demote sapphire
KBai, good luck everybody 
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE 
Time to do some crimes
This is the best pif meme
Q: Is this an update or a new game? Also where can I download it/when is it coming out?A: New game, and you cannot play it yet as we're still working on it. The demo is coming out in 2026. We do not have any idea when the game will be finished, so currently there is no full release date. Also very important: we do not have an official website!!!...
-# the cover image still won’t load 
Me when I
-# smol
Thank you
It has hack me in the name it must totally be safe
Clearly 
It’s what all the installation guides are on too so I can steal everyone’s information 
-# for anyone reading this, I’m not actually stealing anyone’s information. I ain’t got the time or energy for that
Oh the tech cheat sheet is nice
I forgot that was public 
It has to be for my porygons since not all the porygons have direct access to all the guides
Cant wait till demo next year. So hyped
remember when pory sacrificed me live on stream
I just watched the PIF Hoenn update video(I'm not super active in the server) and omw this game looks lit
That was fun

I wonder if over world encounters gonna show the shinies
Nevermind, it's planned
That's gonna be huge for shiny hunters
No more spamming A and D and go to multiple battle animations anymore
Just sit and watch
Gosh Zan, read the faq 
Me:
Writes first
Read second
Process third
how the actual hell is there a thunderstorm in a cave
sir you're in #pif-hoenn-discussion
#playthrough-talk is that way
Also, only kyogre knows 
ah well damn whoopsies i'll be on my way
tbf there are caves irl with their own weather systems
wait what??? goddamn well now im gonna go do some research on that thats cool as hell
-# holy shit the cover pic actually loaded 
just noticed this 
Guys paya is lying let’s ban her 
That's right, I'm not a badass 
But like… What if I really really want to turn off fusions? 
Play pokemon emerald
Oh I guess i should say what we're talking about. Sapphire made a site for the faq and I changed the pin to have the link. Feel free to yell at people who don't read 
That one threw me in for a loop
after it was asked a couple times I had to add it
Hai Paya
quad fusion
I doubt Frog would ever consider that
The only way it might work with the fusion rules is through the Tapus
Plus not even considering what 4 could even go together only one I can think of is the swords of justice but they're not even here
Or the tapu's
Yeah only those two could exist here
pentafusion
The Regis could as well, but that’s the only other group of 4 I can think of
Regardless, quadruple fusion is never happening
if you want quad fusion or higher, you'd want to keep your eyes out for the [to my last bit of knowledge] in progress fan game Pokemon Amalgam [https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/pokemon-amalgam-a-fusion-game-with-no-limits.464800/]
no idea if it is still in the works since I know they were originally on Unity [but that was before Unity shot itself in the foot]
Sextuple fusion
HoweverManyEeveelutionsThereAretuple fuison
There’s 8 eeveelutions
every arceus plate fusion
They’re only 17 Arceus plates, because Normal type is its default form
wait i thought there was 16 types
nope
septendecuple fusion
(There’s a normal type plate in legends Arceus, but that’s Gen 8 which is past the capability of this game)
Does Stellar really count though
If it's a fusion, you'd likely still include normal though
Stellar's weird, it's like Shadow - outside the type chart really
Technically Arceus appeared with one more type, as he could take a ??? form
we'll save the TMT crossover nonsense for another game
that is a joke
I don't think anyone could handle a fusion that consists of Baby/Uno Reverse/Emerald/Type
Not to mention that the Left and Right type break rule 8
And the deez and smash types break rule 2
But in all seriousness, ??? isn’t a real type, and Arceus could never transform into that type legitimately
Hello,I want to participate Expert Mode trainer's design,what should I do?(Sorry for bad English)
Arceus needs to learn Burn Up 
Doesn't get any of the move copying moves
Wait actually though like
If you're a mono-Fire and you use Burn Up
You basically became typeless right
Yeah
That's fun
hope that they add lilligant or marshadow
New Pokémon additions are a discussion for after the demo releases, we're definitely not getting anything more than the 70 revealed additions for a long while
resst of hoenn, and then swoobat, dragalge, eelektross
That being said I would love for the Ultra Beasts to be added to the game lol
Oooooo wait maybe that can be like the extra world added to the game (the Ultra Beasts' origin place)
I doubt Frog and co. are gonna make Sinnoh the post-game region anytime soon
So like Ultra Beasts are a great post-game content to think about soon
honestly i would love them in the game
but it has to be all of them
or none of them
Yeah it needs to basically be a big dump ala new Hoenn mons (and three extra mons)
it wouldn't be that big of a dump unless frog decides to say f it and finish off the rest of gen 7 mons for a future update
11 is still a pretty substantial number, especially if we wanna include the Cosmog line and bring it up to 15
Why cosmog?
Cosmog line is heavily linked to the UBs (and Necrozma, which is already in the game)
I subscribe to the tcg interpretation, where solgaleo, lunala, and base necrozma aren't ultra beasts but dusk/dawn/ultra necrozma is.
Doesn't mean we need to add them at the same time
I personally don't because that doesn't make sense in my brain
Like why would Solgaleo and Necrozma not be UBs alone, but become UBs when fused?
I want cosmog line so bad, but that would be 4 pokemon instead of 3 and frogs not a fan of that
It's not like Necrozma's 3 alt forms have Beast Boost
We should get cosmog line first, then the ultra beast later
I hate ultra beasts, I'm not an ally on that front 
You're right, we dont need them
This is why Frog should go for the option that is 2 Pokemon

And there you have it guys, it'll never happen 
He could make cool fusions
nope
It happens sometimes, usually starts when someone asks if x pokemon is in yet and then it spirals into people's wishes
Its harmless, unless its gen 8 and above, which have less than a 1% chance of happening 
I am just very in tune with my wish.
I mean I've had it for the past almost 5 years at this point 
Tbh I'm not expecting more than the Hoenn mons and the 3 other lines
Keep dreaming, you never know!
Oh yeah definitely not. It will be a looooong time before we add anything else
-# Even zygarde??????? 
I forgot about him
i dont know if we would do the forms or just have zygard as a blanket mon with his forms combined
We should just have 100% stats, but combine them
There doesn't need to be 3 different forms
I haven't played za yet so I dont know if the forms actually play a part now
Yeah thats silly
Just let people make sprites for any of them, it would get done so fast
explain this then
A lot is still WIP, who knows - just keep dreaming, wishing, and supporting and one day....
More will come, one day. I believe that for certain.
What mon is it that you are wanting?
Haha that was in response to gordo wanting malmetal someday 
Wait is that even the name? I forget
At least I wasn't completely wrong. I'll take it 
wow first y'all make fun of my voice now you forget the name of my most wanted...
Your days... are numbered 👁️
Insane
I like your voice! It makes me happy
its very comforting
Everyone's days are numbered, different high amounts but still numbered
take me out soon please
Am getting ready to replay through one of the 3DS Pokemon games again
But this time.... moreso of just a casual rush through the game - I wanna shiny hunt somethin' 
are you challenging me?
just stating the truth
I’m gonna add in all of Gen 8 
I mean... that means snom and appletun so I'm okay with it 
Appletun is the flapple line, ya?
Yeah, one of the 3 final evolutions of Applin
The 3rd one is from Gen 9 though so if all of Gen 8 was added it wouldn't be in the game
Appletun and Flapple would though
Frog might kill me but it’s worth it for the lil baby snow bug
But you need to make a fusion of Snom/Appletun
I will remember your sacrifice
another mon for us to be tortured by people asking us how to evolve
If I finish gen 8, I’ll add gen 9 
Arctozolt finally in PIF
Wtf is Snom
you do not speak of our boi like that
But, I want to fuse it with Grubbin, so I'm down
Frosmoth looks like if Carbink got an ice regional variant and grew wings
^^^^^

If 50k vote for snom, can it be added as the only gen 8+ mon? 
-# now to find 50 people with a K in their name
Your life depends on you upvoting
-# If 50K needed to vote for Snom, wouldn't you just need 1 person named 50K
I’ll change porys name
Snom's not a terrible mon, but all I have to say is that Frosmoth>Snom
This is slander of the highest order
pikachu
Yeah and its Ursaluna
It’s obviously Sneaseler 
Yamper
so whats the latest update? do we know yet if itll be mostly the same mons or if a bunch will be swapped out for newer ones or what
White stripe basculin, without the evo of course
Whats the name of the game which the hoenn region is in
PIF: Hoenn
Yo I just read that WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRADE ACROSS GAMES FBQOGYSQB
Hell yeah
Being able to swap around save files makes sense, that's going to be BUSTIN
I'll be starting with a level 100 mewtwo rayray
I can't wait to see what the PIFH exclusives will be
They aren't part of Hoenn so I'd be surprised if they were but it is still below Gen8 so it could be!
As long as I get Tropius. So much sprite potential with Trop
We have ||necrozma|| in pif rn
Yeah, but he got added in in a late update.
But we still have him
I get what you're saying
I'm not sure you get what I'm saying
-# but I could also be braindead
I understand its not a base exclusive
Its a added
If you can call them exclusive
100% I have confidence they'll add in Sol/Luna later. But on release would be very surprising
Damn I just realized we won't get the other Luna, rip Ursaring
Ursarings evo, Ursaluna
Just maybe
Gen8+ is locked out of our reach
Like 1%chances
Also how's that
Gen8+ mons have a different coding to them. They would have to essentially redo the game from scratch to implement that code
That's why we don't have Megas
Err
thats not why theres no megas
Dang
I was looking at pined messages and seen no get 8/9
Gen
Do we have mega rayray or no
If only we had the fighting power of Palworld. We would f*ckin annihilate with this game
There's no megas at all, only the sprites
Dang no mega rayray
Honestly, I actually think self-fusions are under appreciated
Wait
They always get dope or hilarious sprites (see: dugtrio/dugtrio), and they get a massive xp bonus which is great for Hard mode
Do the black and white fusions work like normal
What do you mean
the dragons
Yeah
You technically get more fusion with them
Again its just sprite. They don't get a massive stat change
they dont have their own fusion system, no
Wait, wait
So we dont get black/white kyurem
I just figured out what the PIFH exclusive is going to be
What
We have black kyurem, but we don't have black kyurem
Hope this helps
we have black/white kyurem at home
Dang
Zygarde
Can't wait to use 99 dna splicers to fuse 100 cells together
The sprite creators will have a nightmare/wet dream
Adonis how is it that you post that MF every day but I can't find it in the search under General/Playthrough or this channel
i never say its name
?
I quit
But fusion between zygard and rayray would be amazing
it has to be added first
i hope they dont do every zygarde form
we only need 100%
and just combine the sprites
Yeah
they def will not just do 100%
Just run into the full zygard
if they did add only one zygarde, its going to be 50% form
I mean I kinda like the 50% more than the 100% but the 100% has better color schemes
why 50%
It is just better looking
50% is also ust base zygarde before his gen 7 gimmick
In the anime we only seen 50% for most the time
Why can't 50% and 100% coexist
Idk
Core enforcer is just minior's ability but once per battle anyway
Or whatever that ability is called
this part doesnt make sense
it could have sprites from any form
Yeah but the stats
Power construct
That wouldn't work too well with fusions
why not
The sprites
we have pokemon that change forms already
necrozma, minior
How does necrozma work
give it necrozium, and use photon geyser
to make it ultra
Huh
Nvm then
Wait where is the ||necrozium|| at?
you get at the same time as necrozma
unless you are on random
Held by the regular necrozma encounter
Also ||spoiler|| this probably
You literally have to catch it in ultra form
Shields Down I think? Core Enforcer is zygarde's move
i think they meant zygarde's ability which is power of construct right?
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Spoilering PIF details is usually reserved for #playthrough-talk and rarely #gameplay-help
In most other parts of the server, people need to know details about the game in order to help create the game or keep it running smoothly
This is the discussion area where people can talk, among other things, about features they'd like to see added to the sequel
If you don't want to be made aware of current PIF features, this may be a bad place for you to read through until you make it as far through PIF as you are hoping to avoid being spoiled on
I'd also argue that the existence of a base pokemon is not a spoiler
Spoiler alert: Pikachu is in this game 
And batman dies
Spoiler alert, you can fuse pokemon
can someone explain me how can i get this version of the game? the hoenn game
Yet
It’s not out yet
oh dang it
Only 251,001 times
you're telling me that the game named Infinite Fusion is not in fact infinite?
We never said what was infinite
Actually it’s just the amount of magikarp you can get the rest has finite number of uses that is hidden and random for everyone
I'm so grateful for Debug for allowing me to cheat in perfect IV Magikarp just so I can quickly get my silly rod equipment
😔
something to think about fr
We have 251K fusions but only enough PC boxes to fit a thousand.
Literally unplayable
Just wait for the hoenn transfer systems and make 500 save files to use like you would Pokémon home
yep, i need to grab my treeko/gardevoir fusion so let me rename file 23 into File A so i can grab it
"Alright, I think I'll move over my Blaziken. Wait. Which one of these 400 files did I put him in again?"
I already know some mad lad is going to try a living dex
Rename each file after a specific mon and then put all the head fusions of that mon in that file
Aight bet 
is this game out yet
no
dangit
the earliest they said it will be out is 2026
W rizz
Not the place to ask
Evil mad lad be like:: body fusion
and keep in mind that'll be a demo ie. not any 'finished' version of the 'full' game
I want the fully finished version of the game on my desk by monday
which monday
Monday December 21st 2026 so that I can play it the day after
Im asking here because I don’t know where else , concerning the announcement does it only include latest generation and next generation or past game like the beta design and past generation scrapped story ?
A little curious and just making sure, is Hoenn an addition to the old game or an entirely different game on its own.
Entitely different
Oh now im even more excited
be suer to check out the
for more answers
they said the story was a mix of Emerald and Oras
I'm not talking about that
It includes the beta designs. Anything that wasn't officially released falls under the announcement's scope.
Just a thought. How about if we were able to change a Pokémon‘s Pokéball? Sometimes I caught one with an Ultra Ball, but rather have it in a Premium Ball for example.
I didn’t know.. what a fool I was to doubt the team. My apologies, haha.
So this could be the first game I don’t need to do a Pokéball only run. Man, better late than never!
I'm hoping the next game has a feature for nuzlockers like having different nuzlocke game modes, like a type specific nuzlocke, extreme randomizer nuzlocke, and/or route specific nuzlockes
It won’t
For the reasons mentioned in the sticky message here: #game-suggestions message
Oh ok, huh wow lol that sticky was added today, what a coincidence
That stick is re-added every time someone makes a new suggestion
Its content has been constantly available for years
Oh ok
Sometime that has crossed my mind, do we know what the IF Hoenn pokedex look like?
As in what is going to be in that version?
?tag calcs
https://infinitefusiondex.com/: Good for looking at stats, locations, movesets, and type matchups, as well as looking at the inverse fusions side-by-side.
https://www.fusiondex.org/: Good for looking at sprites and fusion names. Also includes stats, but no comparisons.
click the second link
and then check all the mons after 501
those are the confirmed, pokemon coming in Hoenn with maybe more to come next year in August/september
We don't know which pokemon will / won't be acquirable in either specific version of the game, though all pokemon will be useable in both versions, as there will be cross-game transfer
ie, we don't know if Bidoof will be encounterable in Hoenn, but we DO know that you can use Bidoof in Hoenn by "transferring" it over from a normal PIF save
-# all pokemon will be encounterable in both versions via randomizer as well
I'm curious on if they'll remove mons from PIF 1 to make them exclusive to Hoenn
I highly doubt it
Well what do you mean by remove
Hoenn is going to have it's own exclusives, and PIF will have it's own exclusives
I can see them not having Pidgey/Caterpie/Weedle encounterable in Hoenn PiF proper
But that's not the same as them being gone ala modern GameFreak and whoever got dexited this generation
These exclusives are unknown, but we do know it won't be anything from gen 3
At the same time that the rest of the Hoenn Pokemon are added into PIF: Hoenn, they'll also be added into PIF
Currently we know that : all hoenn mons are here, grimer line, trubbish line, pidgey line and krabby line are here
Ah yes, Trubbish, my favorite Hoenn mon
i wonder if frog is going to make an area like the viridian river for the starters again
That would be amazing
I hope there's another area like the garden for starter bonus stuff
also pidgey
yee but only obtainable in randomizer
like you can find hariyama in Hoenn, but in Kanto its gonnabe randomizer/black market/wonder trade exclusive unless transfered
just that we dont know if for sure which ofthe new hoenn mons will be added to PIF in the wild, as gifts or at all
i am leaning toward all the new mons are Hoenn exclusive
If only there was a mode that made all mons available 
will the next remix version include more bomb pyuku /s
Will the current sprites be put into the new game or will we need new sprites for that one separately
The current sprites will be applied
Where is faq?
Thank you!
No prob!
Oh? I recognize the symbol in the backdrop of the logo... is it safe to assume that PIF Hoenn is gonna have a healthy mix of both RSE and ORAS + Delta Episode plot stuff?
What is infinite + infinite?
Still infinity
Infinity 2: electric boogaloo.
is that a jojo reference
Outta curiosity, do we have a demo/release date for PIF Hoenn?
Awesomesauce
will pif-h need to be played on a seperate launcher? or will i be able to click on my current launcher and sttart a save file with a hoenn game?
I'd be suprised if the current launcher doesn't stop working entirely once hoenn comes out
We need to change launchers constantly
But if someone makes a new launcher, they would probably add both games to it
The creator of the current launcher retired so I highly doubt it will get an update so that Hoenn will work on it. PIF 1 should continue to work fine however
The old launcher had an April fool version with hoenn dlc , it’s a funny coincidence looking back
hope get see some gen 9 pokemon in the game
That's... probably not on the table.
i doubt it too
Can't
Nothing gen 8 or after will be In the game
Either of em
Engine limitations and all
I mean if it’s only to see them they could get the petilil/Musharna treatment
but those might actually get into the game at some point
gen 8+ is more of a "the game would need to be done and bug free" before it is even considered
it isn't an issue of the engine, it is an issue of the version of essentials we're using
for gen 8 or higher we'd either need v20+; which isn't doable since that may require recoding from scratch, or manually coding the moves & abilities in
the latter is doable, but frog prefers to not attempt that
prob be couple years or a year see how goes
years is more accurate
frog will also want pif hoenn in a similar state
adding the gen 8+ mons makes the game harder to upkeep and update; but if the game is "done" then the only things we'd have to worry about with those mons being added in would be new bugs tied to them/their moves/their abilities
Where to download hoenn dlc?
nowhere. it hasnt released yet. and hoenn will not be a dlc but a seperate game
no release date have been confirmed
they woulda announced by now if it was out
I literally said April fool in the name
?tag reading not just for NPC dialogue
You should try to read NPC dialogue! They give very good hints on how to continue the game. Sometimes they also give you items! Don't forget to talk to NPC's and read what they say.
I think the top pin here should be
It's not a DLC, and it's not done!
Yeah, the faq pinned answers that, but if you don't say it in the first line, people stop listening 
Bold of you to assume that people would read the pins 
They don't need to read the pins
It just has to be in the pins
That way we can react with
and then proceed to move on to the next important thing
Otherwise you get "I did read the pins theres nothing in there"
so will IF1 be done (outside of bugs and compatibility stuff) when IFH releases?
The first Pokémon Infinite Fusion game has been done for years
Though it continues to get content additions every now and then
I mean no more new content
There will never be an end to more content
nothing outside of fixes or compatibility stuff for Hoenn
This game and this community will always keep it growing
but wouldn't everyone move to Hoenn?
Why would we stop playing the original? They both offer great different experiences. Especially new players who get to experience both
I don't mean stop PLAYING, I mean stop DEVELOPING
I suppose its up to Frog. Right now there's no plans to stop
I assume at some point Frog will deem PIF "done" so he can full focus on PIF Hoenn
but we'll put that under the same rug we put everything else without a hard set date
Soon™
We have a big message that ALWAYS pops up as the most recent message in #game-suggestions and people don't even read that
bold of you to assume people would read the most recent message just because it’s right in front of them 
They don't
stares at people making #game-suggestions despite the wall of text telling them it's not happening
With the release of the French Translation, I can confidently say that there will no longer be any major story/features added
since the main reason why Frog didn't want translations in the first place was someone going through the translation project, only to throw it out with the next major story replacing/removing other sections of the game
at the very least, PIF will get an update to allow the Hoenn mons to show up in randomizer, but thats about it
new features that will appear in Hoenn like Secret Bases, dynamic weather and overworld encounters are a. "This could happen, but don't expect it" type of deal
so yeah, any updates to PIF from now on would probably be just bug fixes/QoL patches.
I mean, he's already confirmed more content,
honestly I just want brass music again
what content exactly
aside form Hoenn mons showing up in randomizer
and transfering them over via a box
More content in my case is if PIF gets Contests, gets over world encounters, etc the new stuff that is going to be Hoenn exclusive
and while they could theoreticaly add them to PIF, they haven't confirmed that they ARE coming to it
Frog suggested that after PIF Hoenn they might make their own game that they could monetize but that'd be a way off. I'd be shocked to see the stuff they're showcasing for PIF Hoenn to ever come to PIF Kanto/Tokyo
Ive never heard that before
Well, idk if the idea of them making an original game was even a suggestions till people in youtube comments kept say. "You have done so much cool stuff, why isn't this an original game"
idk. just the part where Frog would suggest something to himself is kinda confusing
either way
I asked at the end of the Hoenn stage stream if there were plans post PIF Hoenn
I was there and I cant remember 
it was like way at the end it was only in the discord chat channel that we can't see anymore
well Toby might have acess to that chat
ah true
you know the time?
there is a No Access link for me
but for you could take you somwhere
-# oh wait nvm the stage is gone 
Frog wanted to delete all evidence so that people aren't hyped about about their original game 
For starters, filling in the two currently empty cities
Yes
Hello, will the PiF-Hoenn Demo be playable till end of this year ?
Unlikely
for anyone with questions we have a FAQ in the pins of this channel

Imagine, if you will, reading
I'd rather not; I lived in that city...moved away for a reason
Apologies if this is a dumb question, I was reading the FAQ and wondering, what exactly are the tech limits that prevent Gen 8 mons being a thing in the game? Is it just how many there are? Models, weird abilities, strange movesets?
the main limitation is the Pokemon Essentials version PIF and PIF Hoenn are using
which is v19
to get Gen 8+ requires one of two options;
- updating to a higher version of Pokemon Essentials [would require recoding the game from scratch, possibly in a new engine]
- Manually coding in the moves & abilities for the Pokemon [this was attempted before, things broke; Frog doesn't really feel like trying this again for obvious reasons]
Fair enough and understandable. I’ve tried coding before, I would not wish trying to start over like that on my worst enemy.
yeah
its why the engine and PE was kept the same for the sequel
made things much easier
We don't delete it, we do hide it 
So Toby just doesn’t have perms to find the thing Pokeroots was talking about
Revealing the secrets
Does this just mean Toby is blind?
Well no, the no access in announcements should have taken him to the channel if he has the permission Togo there
In this case he doesn’t have permission to see the stage
the stage only exists when it needs to
otherwise it might as well just be a figment of our imagination
Yee but visual proof of something frog said
Which is only in the Stage Chat since answering Q&A for PIF Hoenn
I mean even if it's there that's still something that would be years off realistically unless Frog is plugging away at it in secrecy
I'd say one step at a time :P
Some more endgame content would also be great for hoenn, to keep it fresh and active. Just a thought though. Maybe some cool boss fights
thats just my 5 cents haha. Cant wait till 2026, going to be awesome with hoenn coming at some point
keep up the awesomeness. Best pokemon game out here 
But Pory, when will we find out what the final boss for PIF4 is? /s
no I need to think about the thing that's 10 steps ahead without regard to the other 9 steps
Nah we jump up as many steps as we can at once and if we stumble down the stairs a little it's no biggie 
then you'll have no problem waiting at the bottom of the stairs

I come from the future, PIF Sinnoh will have postgame time travel to the Hisui Region.
love asdf XD
they should make pif sinnoh 3D and available on the switch 3
I also come from the future but because I'm Australian my future is further ahead than yours 
Pif unova will have the true dragon and you get to ride it with N
Wow you're a fellow neighbor I enevr knew
What part U from?
Oh I'm Indonesian lol
Ohh
Yeah
That's why you've always been active whenever I'm on lol
I just assumed you're a night owl or smth
I'm also that 
Are there any updates for Pokemon Hoenn?

Pins in this channel, #dev-updates , the YouTube channel there's so much info on the development of the game
How do you update it? (I'll watch the video later)
Will u guys play as may or Brendan in pif:h
Either
U pick
There was a whole Livestream with a sneak peak at the game so far you should watch it
I missed it unfortunately
Is it true that you can transfer all of your captured Pokémon/Fusions to Hoenn?
When this game comes out that is
Q: Is this an update or a new game? Also where can I download it/when is it coming out?A: New game, and you cannot play it yet as we're still working on it. The demo is coming out in 2026. We do not have any idea when the game will be finished, so currently there is no full release date. Also very important: we do not have an official website!!!...
Click dis
I see
The music is being done by @hexed agate so you can ask him
as long as we have the battle music...
Video Extendido del original
Creditos a: @wingwire_ https://twitter.com/wingwire_
Video original: https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/993476284465405952
Theme from Ruby Sapphire Emerald
Credit: Nintendo, Game Freak, Creature Inc., TPCi
Original Composition : Junichi Masuda, Go Ichinose
Original Designer : Ken Sugimori
#trumpetboy
-------------...
who else is hyped for this
I guess I'm a little hyped 
Eu estou deveras hypado
Principalmente por que pode receber o tratamento de johto e mudar certas coisas
?tag rule22
Rule 22 CODE OF CONDUCT: Speak English in channels outside of #international and, only speak the given language in the #international channels. These channels exist to allow fans to chat together in their languages of choice without the flow of conversation being disrupted by messages the rest of the channel cannot read.
nothing
Ok good
who's wally? The british Waldo?
full release is unknown
Wally is the rivel
the dingus in Gen 3 that full ratios a Ralts into existence
Who has asyma in the manga
ohhh... Yea wow... That's emberassing.
I thought you were talking about Waldo, who's usually called "Wally" in the united kingdom
He’s a good kid and a good rivel he’s not out to get you he’s more like look look look I made a team
I mean... he hides. It fits
He has a ralts to help him when he’s going have fits
and gen 9 rival (Nemona) is just a battle addict
Screw nemona
HEY!
She’s like omg let’s be friends I just met you
I do t like that
Like I just moved here your a bit much
it's called "being an extrovert"
I do t even know you
She would show up at all my gym battles like a stalker would
She’s the kinda person why calls you at 2-3 am for a pokemon battle
the true rival
in her? 
On her my fingers are fat
I liked the dlc rivel he was nice but timid and had a bad sister
I'm too broke for a dlc so I can't relate
buying the game emptied my wallet enough already
I did not get the dlc for sword and sheld but I have both hands
we should prob switch channels tho
Oh sorry ya we went on a tangent
#other-pokemon-games meet me here
My bad
Give Wally asma
Is Hoenn being added as a separate game or is it gonna be an update
separate game
PIF lacks the map space to fit the entirety of hoenn in
i hope there more water and
i think we need to stop answering and just react with with the
emote
maybe it will train them

Every message
Just put it on every message
If they can’t bother to pay attention or read, why should I be bothered to answer? 
Exactly
We'll all try it
The next person to come in here and ask where they download Pokémon Infinite Fusion Hoenn will get a
react and no written answer
-# It would be really funny if the next message after that ends up being that question
Are super reacts allowed
Of course
The main point is that we get ourselves used to not carving out extra time for the endless parade of people who are too lazy to check the pins before asking a question
You should try to read NPC dialogue! They give very good hints on how to continue the game. Sometimes they also give you items! Don't forget to talk to NPC's and read what they say.
You still have to type then, and it doesn't tell them where to read
true

By golly. They did it
what

no?
Hey guys where do I download Pokémon Infinite Fusion Hoenn 
I think it's here 

Where do you download pof hoenn?
when they say so they will announce it then
I don't even want to know what POF would stand for...
Pokemon. Oh! Fusions.
Typo o and I are right next to eachother on keyboards
ah yes the presequel
Pokemon: Oh? Fusions!

Pokemon one fusion
kyurem
so just B2/W2 
no that has 2 fusions
any gen 1 game would be pokemon one fusion
slowpoke/shellder 
unless you trade there's only one possible fusion per game 
but you can fuse and unfuse it repeadetly
therefore you can take the action of fusion unlimited times
so it would still be pokemon infinite fusion
But you only get 3 splicers
Nuh uh 
There's also Magnemite triple fusion
technically metang and metagross is a fusion too
since its just extra beldums attached
Technically, Metang and Metagross aren’t fusions, the Pokédex is just giving you bad info
Metang and metagross aren't gen 1 
How do I update the Pokemon Fusion?
Do I need to download the latest game file?
And one more question, is this already available on mobile?
Brilliant
Will this game make may and Brendan siblings
Like the pif 1
Make may and Brendan rivals but also sibling
Demo?

How the hell did the Demo qestion get so big lately

Um
If you play as Brendan, May is still our neighbour because the rivals dad is the Professor
While ours is a gym leader
Wally is another next door kid
So I don't think it would be possible
Unless frog wants to overhaul the entire canon
I don't think they plan on changing the canon too much.
I could see brendan AND may become OUR rivals as neighbor siblings, but we would just become a different character entirely
-# where do you get these questions from?
What pit do you drag these questions from I also ask
:p
FOR ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS GAME CHECK THE PINNED MESSAGES WE HAVE A FAQ
I think this isn't part of FAQ so ..
Is the npc + main character sprite(walking, running) gonna be ds styled in pif hoenn?
there was a showcase almost 2 weeks ago that had some of the early bits if you want to see that
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
just be aware that may not be the same thing we see come next year when the demo is properly live
I like that
Me too
Hello fellow kirby 
Hello ice Kirby 
How was your
day
I'm really excited for this, honestly. 😄
I already love Hoenn, but with the IF quality of life changes and overworld visual upgrade to the BW style? What a great time this is gonna be. 🙂
The urge to ironically
this is strong
Absolutely #off-topic but are the Kirby's playing Air Riders?
I'm getting it for chrismas
will there be more streams and videos of Hoenn as development progresses?
they should add Kirby Air Riders to pokemon infinite fusion hoenn
Oh so that's what Kif stands for
Kirby infinite fusion
Maybaps…
I might sinohfy hoenn 
Will hoenn be a gamemode or a seperate download?
idk
Separate
DONT ANSWER THEM
why?
They should read the pins and learn they can't get the answer by asking
Easier to answer an A or B question than to forward to pins personally. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

