#pif-hoenn-discussion
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My "no catching Pokemon" run is also why I refuse to rely on only one Pokemon for my runs. Having only Ivyruff until I got Cut was misery
Dang
That sounds miserable lol
Ok this new one is much more evil, but I know for sure how to beat this in classic
Funny thing was after I got Cut I had access to so much more stuff. Togepi, Azurill, Venipede, Magby...
we should be able to have an HM slave or else we might get soft locked
And of course they were all eggs which provided problems of their own...
Only change I would make is to rule 5 and say you can reverse Fusions so you can make your Ratatta/Pidgey into a Pidgey/Ratatta but only 1 per fusion.
So you can possibly get yourself out of a sticky situation but then that fusion is fully permanent.
Yeah, I just feel ending at white-out doesn’t sit right with me.
Oh yeah, but that kinda goes without saying. If you need an HM slave, you can switch those out at will.
But you have to switch right back once you are done
Once we get the Hm item replacement, we can free the HM slave
Plus the HM items that replace the moves tend to be found pretty shortly after getting the hm, so shouldn’t be too bad a problem
I actually like the idea of being able to reverse the fusions at will.
If you want to be really masochistic then no HM salve, that way you have to go right after item replacement and potentially over some encounters you might have want to save for later

Yeah, but fly is also a powerful move so I don’t mind it
I never use flying types 
That’s why the only HM’s I’ve ever hated in the games are Cut, Defog, Rock Smash, and Flash. Things like Surf and Fly are at least powerful moves
you will like the birds or you will walk 
That is evil haha
The only flying type I use is Gyarados
Defog is an HM?
in gen 5? or gen 6?
In Gen 4
i forgot
What starters are you gonna pick, Toby? Cause I was thinking of doing something other than Kanto. Leaning Johto or Sinnoh, since Kalos probably don’t have enough custom sprites yet.
Huh. What did it do even?
You want it hard :P might as well go all the way hehe
De-fogged foggy areas. Without it you were basically playing every battle with every single Pokemon having +2 evasion
I might go for my Main one Aron/Growlithe
In gen 4 defog was an hm and used in exactly two areas in the game, one of which is a room that can be run through in 30 seconds. Worst hm ever
use a random number generator and then that will tell you what start you have :P
Ah

Also it didn't have it's hazard removal properties at this point, so it was basically just Flash battlewise
So you chose completely custom starters?
Huh
yep,but I might want to reset
Oh like roll a d6 until it lands on something other than 1 or 5?
I don't think there's a single move that got as big a glow-up as Defog. Maybe Leech Life, but that's the only one I can think of
Yep ^^ can't have you make it easy for yourself
Uh, is Venipede in the game
yep
I think I’ll do this actually
theres no sprite pack to download 
I would love to hear from you two, how this go, as I am kind of curious ^^
I'll ping you within 4 days, the whole run takes me about 30 in game hours minimum

Well, I haven’t updated my sprites since Summer
Will be fun to hear how bad it go..... I mean your heroic explodes
I will post updates in playthrough talk and could ping y’all, or you could send me a friend request. Y’all’s choice
It will take me much more than 30 hours. I am not fast lol
More then happy with a ping.... as I will be completely honest I might not see a dm as that gets kind of full a lot
can't wait to see the new kommo-o fusions letsgo

yeah pings are fine
Fair enough lol.
Just need to find the bloody thing now hehe
I swear kommo line would be a pokeradar encounter 
agreed
so whats the earliest you can get porygon now? viridian?
do you just spam open and close pc to encounter porygon?
Do Pokemon with GLuttony activate pinch berries at 50% health? If so Clangerous Soul Kommo-o fused with a Gluttony Pokemon to activate a punch berry
A lot of mon of this new batch already have a lot of fusions
So i skipped the intro and started a new randomised game, and now I have a Live Gengar Reaction that won't go away
Pretty much lol. It's a pretty low chance though

Ohhh that is the best bug I have seen in a long time
Gengar's reacting to you for his youtube channel dw bout him
odd i never get bugs but for now im checking routes and hotels
Thanks for gave to us options to choose Frog
Porygon in Viridian is a pretty fun decision considering Viridian is involved in one of the most famous glitches in gaming history
GengarPlays: pokemon infinite fusion.
CALL HIS FANBASE THE GANG-GAR
I wonder what is the secret paya talked about (she said not a new mon)
omg that's so funny
why do i now want an option where gengar just ominously looms over the game, silently judging your very actions
Of course 😄 it's definitely a better option than the old seizure-inducing porygon quest 
I want Live Gengar Reactions now
Fuuuuuuck I thought I fixed that 
he has the personality of gengar from PMD rescue team.
Or the tedium of 9999 coins at the game corner
that quest could have gotten a rave music tho 😔
That's still in if you want though hehehh
(I actually did this for my first ever playthrough BTW, never again)
“Live Gengar Reaction”
Took me a whole day
Btw @spice sage now that you are over here. Just want to say thanks for all the work, and good gods I love this game and all the work you all do 
Hope you get many headpats and warm hugs
hows it goin frog
been a stressful almost 3 hours
do I just need to boot it up and close it or do I need to actully access storage?
wait what the hell is going on in general
Aww thank you
comments like this make it worth it
complaints about ai dex entries I think, which spiraled into ai stuff in general.
I've been mostly popcorning tbh 
lmao fair
i will say
the type displays in battles
BEST addition this version
holy shit

huh
NO MORE CHECKING THE CALCS 😭
I don't realy play the game but I'm gratful for the new mons and character customization (especially to have added luvdisc)
its funny how that feature was just suggested like a bit ago too
Rock/Water
What do you mean have you not memorized all 200,000+ combinations yet like the rest of us have 
Thank you for making something that is as good as the games are in childhood memories
oh that's cool
i have memory issues forgive me
There were a lot of mods that added that already and it's been suggested for a while to add it to the main game so I thought why not
i just hope one mission doesnt require nagative karma
That means a lot!
appreciated as the Sudowoodo fusions have tripped me up a few times
that damned tree is still tricking me 25 years later
SAME.
how early can you get porygon? cause ive booted and closed the pc in viridian pokecenter like 100 times now.
You mean the body pillow tree
its the best addition to the game imo, no more head calculations with pokemon names and typings
me sitting there at 3 am, trying to figure out what the fusion's typing is for 5 minutes
While your here I want to thank you Frog
This game gave my live a whole new meaning, no matter if its the community, this high quality game or seeing people from everywhere on the world enjoying my work
It really helped me through though times already
Thanks for making that game
I fw this game heavy!!!!!!
Joining the thanks train, thanks for all the work, love the team rocket option.
Best part is when you go "AHHH I GOT YOU NOW YOU BASTARD!!!" and then game go "not very effective"
otherwise i wouldnt be doing tech support for it 
i cry every time
Same, makes me want to work more in my sprites
April 2025 will mark the 10years anniversary of pif , it's crazy that sicne 10 years people have enjoyed this wonderful game
Me with Morty's Weavile/Shedinja 
oh it is april
And there still so many fusions for make them an sprite
Any time I see a Shedinja I more or less "here we go again" while cursing its name a lot
damn. mixing up my 1 year anniversary with my boyfriend with PIF's 10 year anniversary
-# this is legally a joke
So time for a new run
A randomizer nuzlock and I have to sprite what doesnt have one and I catch
Epic
we're halfway there
i sent this message to him and he laughed ☝️
Okay that sound amazing ^^
-# livin on a prayer
Wait already halfway O.o holy hell you lot do a lot of work, even more then I had assumed
Oh boy. The launcher needs to update. Screams in terror at having to do computer things
yeah and obviously... sylveon and voltorb are the only ones with complete sprites
currently
Apparently I need to manually update the App Installer/launcher. how do I do that?
there has to be more with 100% completion on both halves
Oh really I had assumed someone like Gardevoir was also done.... you know for reasons 
we don't do these kind of jokes here smh
might wanna ask in #tech-support for a guide
I also assumed Gardevoir and Loppuny might be done. Or pikachu for obvious yet different reasons
Gardevoir has a very low number of head fusions actually
At least relative to body fusions it has
Well to be faire we get a lto of sprites everymonth , it slows down btu we still do around 1% every month
SMH they only love her for her body
100% both halves
- diglett
- voltorb
- ho-oh
- kecleon
- bidoof
- sylveon
- trapinch
- buneary
(for 470, not 501)
so technically
none of them are 100% rn
WHY BIDOOF 
Gardevoir is actually hard to sprite, only those who are fairly good with humanoid body proportion gets to do them. same with anothers that are in that category
from what i hear, its because 1 guy went through and did a bunch of low quality bidoof sprites
@tough shore
Wow thank you, that means a lot! 
because everyone knows who the true god of the universe is MWHAHAHAHA 
Btw how great can the day be, everything was chill, the Update came out and Helluva Boss: Sinsmas came out and was a banger
Could only be better if I either get a GF or Gogoat gets in XD
Oh
Know the terror of Peanut Butter
"low quality"- not my words, someone else's
I tried making "Gardevoir syndrome" a thing due to how many other Pokemon suffer a similar fate of being more valuable statwise as one part of a fusion, but more aesthetically used for the other part. But I can't really force that kinda thing to become a saying
oh wow we got trapinch done
does this imply that a relationship has the same value as gogoat?
Next sprite pack diglett is done again
The problem is that relationships today are very short 
Kekleon has a pretty dedicated team to keeping its sprites at max completion too from what I've heard
That implies that both would make my life a lot better
good
deserved
I've been making diglett as mons get announced
one of my favs
Diglett's pretty easy to work with, I imagine
Btw what Diglett should I sprite?
Its missing in my dex collection
he's a smart little guy I like him a lot
diglett/anorith is temp
Kk i look what I can do there
thank you so much
soreile.arc made that sprite. their sprites are all incredible
wait, changelog says appearing IN pc, is it not an encounter?
What I find the most amazing of all you lot that make sprites, is I sometime go "I cannot for the life of me see how the two moms could look good together" and then I look at the sprites and I love them all and go "yep it couldn't look any other way"
wait, you can access pc before choosing starter in oaks lab, can you fight gary with porygon or escape the lab without choosing starter?
So I can redo my "No catching Pokemon" Run while having more than three Pokemon available to me in the early game? Yippee!
that's a very good question 
Well time to make some food and actually play the game ^^ been nice to talk to you all, see you all later

Trapinch hit 100% for 501 recently
Ok, my launcher should be up and running
I love that almost all mon that hit 100% elvolve again so they loose their custom sprite
That’s what’s sad
Why can’t there be a man as commuted to Dugtrio as he is to diglett lol
Clearly because Dugtrio takes 3x the effort as Diglett 
I made over 150 diglett but I don't have the strenght to do dugtrio (I did a few but not too much)
Are we safe to move back to general now? Is the flame war done?
I think
Go hard or go home :P
Fair enough
I’m mostly interested in the smarter ai
Does anyone know the level caps for hard mode?
Nop but just put level caps on and you are good to go ^^
That’s an option now?!??
It have been there for a looooong time xD
Dang I never knew
^^ have fun and good luck
Also looks like I’ll be playing with gen 4 starters
Hmmmm roll a d4.
- Gen 2
- Gen 3
- Gen 4
- Gen 6
Gen 6
Want the d3 now?
1: good boy
2: furry bait
3: Ninja
Do we still need manualy download sprites? Or only sprite sheets?
And you got the furry bait ^^ have fun with fire
we can turn download on after we update ^^
Is there any calculation that has the new Pokémon in it? Lol hopefully delphox has some fusions.
Delphox is fun. Was my first gen 6 starter
the online one isn't ready but I do have a manual calculator that can get stats if that's what you're looking for
Feel like they are not updated yet as it just dropped.
Honestly better the furry bait than the overhyped frog
also I would say I also started with delphox but imma be real, furfrou was my actual gen 6 starter after the route 7 double furfrou fight took out fen and 3 of my other team members
Hehe have fun with the fire witch ;)
So Git source was fixed?
If that works? I’d like to know how many Delphox sprites there are
(I later ran an Alpha Sapphire egglocke with a delphox that did live the entire run at least)
also I don't know how many sprites sadly
Yep I asked in tech a bit earlier just to be sure :D so we are good now
I haven't been able to play just because I've been driving to the family's house for christmas break for the past 3 hours
also probably gonna finish the uh 38 runs I have going first before I switch over to 6.4
Hope that road was ok.
(for reference all of those runs are parked in the E4's doorstep lol)
the trip was fine, nothing memorable
minior is not easy to find
Ah, the every present mystery of the key bindings “what the fuck are A, X, Y, L, and R supposed to do?
?tag keybinds
You can press F1 (FN + F1 on laptops) to change your keybindings!
Be aware, remapping controllers does not work outside of Xbox Controllers. You need to use a 3rd party app like Steam or JoyToKey to remap your controller to keyboard presses.
How to setup Controllers via Steam: [Guide](#tech-support message)
there ya go bruz
How long does it generally take https://infinitefusiondex.com/ to get updated?
Pokémon Infinite Fusion Dex. Filter fusions by Pokémon, artist, types, abilities, and moves.
Like with new base mons
well i gona continue toomorow maybe even find some customes
It does take a bit
From prior experiences, it can take up to a few weeks
You are amazing
wow suggestion channel got a lot backslash
Frog might not see this , I hope no one is going to threaten frog they did an amazing job
For a bit there it seemed like it
then we should all send our support to frogman
Yeah that was a stressful three hours
-# I’m just glad general calmed down after all of that
I was mroe so talkign about dm dead threat
because in this chat we have the mods that can get remove rule breakign messags
It would be very silly and stupid to threaten somebody over using AI
You'd be surprised
we got some stupider dead threat already
You should play throughout the holiday season to find out 
'o'
chritsmas event
I'm just saying that people are most likely off during that time
it was just a guess
Spend time on infinite fusion instead of your families
I know frog talked about an unused time variable or something like that
new update 🥳
Did something happen?
ai dex entry.
Great idea! I’m sure my family will love that!😃
I guess I mean more specifically if something happened in that chat.
Cause I’m all to aware of what happened in general. (The Toxic Three, I’m thinking of calling it)
do you mind letting me know where to find it? i was curious too
Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.
its also pinned
this channel is still alive??
i am sad than the porygon quest are done
i liked this quest because it's like code lyoko
given the amount of issues it had...makes sense
true.
Yes
This means Ice type magicarp propaganda can still flourish for a short amount of time

HELL YEAH
I just had an idea for a ice type Magicarp head fusion
Ice type Magicarp/Spiritomb
So basically the stone key would be an ice cube and the spirit coming out of it would be a Magikarp
We just need someone to Sprite or make a concept art of it…
do we know when https://infinitefusiondex.com/ is going to be updated with the new pokemon?
Pokémon Infinite Fusion Dex. Filter fusions by Pokémon, artist, types, abilities, and moves.
Based on the last time they had to update the site, a few weeks
thanks!
I doubt that they’d actually include the size differences
The size differences are in the game tho
they are in
Wha…? Are they just resized or something?
yep
They did
how do you start the scraggy quest btw
you might want to follow this https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1170955211922223205
thanks!
Anyone know how to get the Lunarbob?
Eat it
I play on my steamdeck and the workaround files are borked 
New pokemon and conteeent
I mean I could play the prerelease version us porygons got but it’s not up to date with everything
i'm sure somebody else has noticed this, but you can get a ludicolo sombrero from talking to the Designer in Saffron and showing her the Lotad line
YES KOMMO-O MY MANNN
oh its not working on steam deck yet?
Not yet
Big Sadge
Had to get taken down for critical bug fixes
I love the new grenninja sprites + chespin
how to find the kalos pokemon?
Is there a list of the new Pokemon?
Check the pins
On which channel?
This one
The last pin I see is from a month ago
Do you not know how to scroll down?
Yea mb
Really wish they added like the newer evolutions for some pokemon, like Bisharp and Ursaring
Kingambit and Ursaluna and the like
Dudumsparce
Yeah uh, nothing past gen 7 will be added
I wish gen 8-9 evos too (like an exception of the rule).
And how about megaevolution mechaning with all megas?
no
it isn't a rule
gen 8+ can't be added because to add it would require:
frog to manually code in each and every thing [there was a change in how shit was coded between gens 7 and 8]; doing this can [and likely will as he attempted something like it before] break stuff (this means there is a chance the game will break)
basically there's just too much of a risk and frog has no desire to attempt that again
The absolute best chance at any Gen 8+ Pokemon being added is when we run out of Gen 3-7 Pokemon people want added. And that's estimated to take about 10 years at the rate new Pokemon are added to this
And even then, Frog could just decide he's content with the game at that point
i doubt he will change his stance on it
is there a requirment for finding porygon via pc? like you need to reach a point in the story? Im just booting up and checking the storage then shutting it down, but I cant seem to find anything.
i think the porygon quest got removed in 6.4
i mean the new version
there is no porygon in viridian pc
unless you already had one
in there
and then it would be in your box if it isn;t in your party
"Porygon can appear randomly when using the PC." says it in the update log.
"Porygon now has a low chance of randomly appearing in the player's PC." quests/game events.
then i don't know what the triggers are besides that
likely it works similar to trashcans and trubbish
there might be a specific pcs it can't pop on
or it might randomize which pc it can be found on
given the update just came out yesterday it is a giant ?
It's related to stepcount
yeah it's exactly the same mechanism
||It would be funny if someone encounters a Porygon while using debug pc storage option. Theoretically it could happen||
Who knows, we could hope, maybe my grandsons can play with gen 12 mons 😎
given the coding issue, it is unlikely
since it could very well render the game dead
only other solution is new game, which last i knew frog also said no to
other people are welcome to try
From what I remember Frog saying, it's possible, but WAY more of a pain in the ass to do then the mons of earlier gens, so that would be low priority compared to those mons we're still missing anyways. But also I feel like that information changes every like month or so so idk if that's still accurate or not
no way
what did I just found!
!!Spoiler Alert!!||WE ARE REALLY GOING TO GET ROUTE39 AREN'T WE?!||

Isn’t that the place off the coast of Celadon?
With the guy who gives free berries everyday
@atomic hornet TELL ME YOUR DREAM IS COMING INTO REALITY RIGHT?
you mean fuchsia city?
that's not ||moo moo ranch||
Oh, yeah, fuchsia is right
Not celadon
But I’d imagine that is what they’re referring to
Well, for now it remains a mystery until a developer comments on it
Either of us could be right, in all honesty
||moo moo ranch|| is a very classic setting. I personally don't think there's any ambiguity in this. since farmhouse doesn't have any ||moomoo||
Everyone opinion changes with time , like frog said he would add forms now we have form changing mons. With time passing circumstances changes. Tho it’s unlikely to arrive in the next couple of years
last time I was silly enough not to realize that Frog had already decided on Diancie after I reported a ||Pinka Island|| bug on the very day the beta was released. This time, I feel like it's pretty obvious..
Did AI dex entries get added after the 1.4 update?
Added in 6.4 yes
I would love for Drampa to be in the game
I've loved all the new additions, especially after seeing some of the great customs, but Drampa would really make me freak out lol
Also stop the Dragon type spam
Drampa is above his typing, that's not what makes him special
I mean for me Drampa is Okay but idk the Dragon spam just tires someone out
I mean I doubt Drampa will actually come cause of the other dragons that already made it in, but still I'd love it, he has more character than all those other dragons combined 😤
less dragons and waters, more fairies and electrics (and ice, and dark)
I want drampa so we can have all the dragons 
(also cool grampa fusions)
Idk if I could take another dragon in 2025, but drampa and dragalge are awesome
ok but can we make an exception for touga pretty please 🥺
I needed a sec to recognize you Hex
we can't have a dragon spam if all dragon type gets added 
Oh my the ai dex entries got some much backslash that spriters are removing their sprites
?tag calc
https://infinitefusiondex.com/: Good for looking at stats, locations, movesets, and type matchups, as well as looking at the inverse fusions side-by-side.
https://www.fusiondex.org/: Good for looking at sprites and fusion names. Also includes stats, but no comparisons.
infinite fusion dex is updated
uff
paya said they are figuring thigns out and do not accept request at the moment
Like 3-4
3-4 in 24 hours
I kinda fear for Heros Sprites
He is big against anything related to AI
I wonder how this situation will end
in before frog's only change related to it is to remove the "absolutley no AI" splash on the title screen lol
oh there is a no Ai flash on the title screen?
I think there was at some point
He said he thinks it's fine
aaaah I see
so it's literally just using them to splice the entries together in a more fitting way
Yes
yea I don't super mind it in that case
thought it was something related to an in-game event lol
I do'nt mind but there is one big big big big big problem
people can't read or don't want to read
like you can explain it they wll stop at ai
And our current era where ai cause a lot of problems I think a lot of them don't want to listen
we have 558k even if we managed to make 99% of people understand there still would be 5580 people who don't understand
for the AI , it's useful at short time for the dex entries but it's a possibility to boost everyone for create our custom entries for the dex . "if you don't would AI entries in the dex for infinite fusion, so , come to add YOUR entries for your favorites fusions"
Lol
lol
I said it before and will say it again: AI is a tool. A tool that isn't necessarily good or bad. It can certainly be used for bad things, but I think this is a perfectly fine way to use it. It's not like it's being used to take anyone's jobs
i like your opinion
a tool is a tool, but the problem are the people who use it, it's good or bad , but the tool are not the probleme
What Timmy said. That isn't a use that's harming anyone, the AI (or LLM, if you prefer...) is just doing what has been done for years prior to their existence in a better way, seems fine to me.
is there a list of pokemon that haven't been added that i can sigh longingly at
I can make on rq
real quick huh, im curious
while you wait for hex I can tell you there's a bit more then 300 mons left
whats the generation cap? 7?
Who says I wasn't the one who wrote that in
those are more notes for Frog so its a gentle push 
Can you do a gentle Gogoat push too 👀
That wouldn't be fair :p it’́ll be a while before new pokemon are even being considered ||especially with how this release went, ngl we're pretty demotivated and disappointed in the playerbase at the moment.||
This chat is pretty chill, thank you guys for the warm messages. They really cheered him up 
I know
I wouldnt want it to get in through unfair ways
it's a just a joke , unless 
What is it exactly about the release and problems?
The people wanting theyr sprites removed?
Or unhappy people cuz of the new mons
Nah winning in a unfair way is shitty
I think a mxi of all
like there will always be some peopole that are unhappy
Spending some more time in here cause Playthrough Talk has become a casual vs competitive warzone. Over a single player game
also yeah paya is the not taking sprite remvoal relted to ai or is it due to spritesheet implementation?
hi paya 
just send them to showdown channel 
holy shit porygon color
🫵 mint
Frog has gotten awful messages. Not quite death threats, but still way over the line
People tried. They're not budging
im mint now
beta tester got absorbed by porygon
Congrats!!
People are just bad
I knew tha twould happen , it's very unfortunate
it's right before chritmas too
OUH
Thats terrible
I know how thats like
it was so nice of frog to give it to use near the end of the year festivities
poor frog
man doesn't deserve this
This update is very fun, I've enjoyed what I've seen so far
This updated added very good mon (aka luvdisc my beloved and more).
People just dont understand what it actually is, they see the buzzword AI and fly off the handle
Absolutly
I love it and cant wait for the things that come in the future
AI really brings out the worst of both perspectives whenever it's brought up, huh
The Pinkan quest is sooo cool
I can't wait for the 10th anniversarry
Yeah, it's a real problem nowadays with how people read 1 word and then base everything they say about the subject on that one word
Im sure a part of it comes from the Internet calling AI evil nomatter what
AI in the current uses is evil
It's not like that one guy who said that AI replacing jobs is a good thing because "those jobs shouldn't have existed anyway" it's just some dex entries that will be replaced by human written prompts anyway
Ngl for the 10th anniversary the community should make something for our frog
(also cuz the anniversary is next year if im not wrong next update should be frogs favs only)
not ai , the user
We don't condone what its infamous for, the way AI has killed art id disgusting. This was just simplifying a simple task
So you agree yet do it anyway ?
And it's not like the AI dex entries are permanent
While people re wogn I think thsi should have been added with a little bit mroe of context. First impression matters so when people read they jumped to conclusion. Having an explantion woudl reduce the problem
I can go in more detail if i csn get tts working, my phone keyboard is borked and french?
They will be replaced when a human makes a dex entry for the fusion
Ah welcome to the french
And what if no one ever does one
Then do it yourself
I've been learning, or at least trying to lol
And stop complaining about something you don't fully understand
As a native french speaker it's always a pleasure seeign people try to learn it
Not having entries is better than AI entries
This AI doesnt take away a job or steals art
It only writes something to make it more fun
And writing is art
Than how about you dont cry about it and write the dexes
They are temporary and we have so many fusions that its a nice lil thing to have
How many fusions doesn'tt have entries ?
But not 2 lines of text qwq
A book yes but not "Pelipper is a bird, he flys. People do Toilett jokes"
OH NO
The art is getting taken away...
WAIT ITS NOT
Cuz Dexes written by Humans will be used when they exist
Many cuz custom dexes is pretty new
Do you think it's realistic to have just, so many people try to write original stuff ? Even one takes time.
So either AI will make people hate your thing and not want to write entries
Or it'll work in making them write entries and you'll be dumb for content
Sorry if I sound mean but man there is absolutly no negative with using AI there
Guys list the top 3 things you like in this new update
There is no hate a dex
The dex gets judged by how good it fits the mon
let's do postivity overload
Oh that's a hard one
The old entries were put together by a script using official game extries. This just uses ai to generate from the same source but in a way to make it flow and make sense. It's not taking from other people's work, and actual custom entries will always replace these placeholders. It was something neat that Frog worked on for months and I am disgusted at how hes being treated. I personally loved the silly mismatched entries, but come on
yeah, let's lift the mood up a bit
- Customization
- new mons
- HATS ON MONS
Apparently from the thing where some people playing thr game aren't very happy. It is negative
- Luvdisc
- Hats on mon
- Trainer cards
First new mon I caught was disc
Some people arent happy cuz they hear ai and cry like a new born
Because AI and AI users fucking sucks
And then refuse to learn what the thing actually is
That's all I will say on it and I will not allow the debate to taint this chat. I swear to god I'll personally yeet this channel if the topic doesn't change
We all know this, any artist with minimal self respect
- Character customisation
- Map changes
- New mons + their quests
Delete the whole server while younre at it
Damn I was just writing up a whole comment aggreing with you but I don't want to fan flames, just a really silly thing that happened!
oh I did not know about map changes
<@&306953740651462656> just to end this discussion
Just leave the server when you are so butt hurt
thats the last I say about it
Yeah some of the maps look better imo
Because ya'll litteraly started the discussion with tjat descision
and blocked
Oh another thing I love is the route before bills lab
i really like the one before bills house
Thank god
it looks wonderfull with the wet swamp theme
can't remember for the life of me. 22?
Modrid what is the tp 3 things you like in this new update
25
ah yeah
Iirc
Haven't been able to play that much (because my game keeps on loading that much between maps and battles) but:
- New Pokémon
- Trainer customization
Another real nice thing is the types shown in battle
Interesting

That's such a nat addition
I turned it on and try to get used to it
my top 3 thing is, Funny hat on mon, All the new mons of course! And all the awesome outfits you get now, but there's so much other stuff and polish now to the game it's just so nice 🙂
Yeah, it's weird seeing it, but still very useful
The hilarious part of this AI discussion is that this situation is the exact opposite of what people hate about AI. It's not AI replacing artists, it's an AI that will be replaced by artists
let's just drop it
Also the hats on mons is of course a really great addition I love it
yesss
Yeah thats the best thing I think
I can put my mushroom hat on parsect for a mushroom square
Hats on mons is one of my favorite parts of character customization. I forget if it was Frog or Kiwi that brought it up, but it's amazing snd silly. We had a good laugh about it last year when we were starting to code and develop it
Yeah its just 10/10 idea
You can make your mon so unique with that
yes it makes it fell more personal
And it's a good way to get more people interested in creating hats
I loveeeee it and it works so well too, just a fantastic addition that's simple yet adds so much flavor to the game instantly
We actually started development of character customization in either September or October 2023, we've been working so hard
There should be a joltik hat
Make it
TRUE
Frog's Iconic Cap? ...great, now I'm thinking about Frog Fractions...
I absolutely love seeing the silliness people come up with 
You could get it standing still in the power plant or so
there is already a mini jltik in asset gallery
I still hope someone makes a plague mask cuz im too bad for character assets
One of my favorites is the reward for beating Brock
just go ask the person and we can turn into a hat
a drying pan
That one is fun
I wonder what you guys are develloping next
I also enjoy the small detail of the item the player is holding changes depending on the area
I like my birb hat it's cute, and the birb is so smug
I don't remember if it was myself or Kiwi who thought of it, but I love it lol
Like the rock in the rock tunnel
I forgot but do you have a fav pick for a Mon you want in the game Paya?
Or hotdog in the restaurant
the traienr card easter egg is such a fun idea
honestly I wish we could select what we hold in our hands alll the time but it makes for so much easter eggs
Or the Magikarp in the rod locations
You can select the pokeball, it's the one in the first slot
I wasn't tlaking abotu the pokeball
Yeah ik
Hmmmmm not really. There are a few I'd like to see but i dont know about favorites. Definitely drampa
But it's still something you hold that can be changed
finally someone gets it lol
Drampa's cool. 🙂 I will wave my Malamar flag until that's a thing, but so many great picks. 🙂
I find drampa's dex entry funny
Drampa is just the silliest guy, that's why I want them!
join me on the malamar train 
My kind of poetic justice
Man I wish Malamar was easyer to sprite qwq
Team Malamar! 🙂
Fairly normal for sun/moon and even ultra moon
Then ultra sun it goes for arson against bullies
Ooooh I didn't think of that, can you imagine what the playerbase would think of with designs? Lots of upside doen ones
You received
moon entry , focuses on familly.
Sun entry : if you make the chikd cry it wil ltrac your down around the world , kill you and your bloodline
Bbgg
That's a big part of why I want it here so much. 🙂 It's a cool design in general, but in this game, both art and mechanics are way more interesting. 🙂
that was my thinking, as a non-spriter, but apparently a lot of spriters felt it was really difficult to sprite so i cant really argue 😛
they don't like talking about the dark side of Drampa 
I want a honse, justice for Xenellia and Shirehorse 
also the getting a horse for christmas is funny 
I want gogoat for christmas
I can't wait for heads to have silly mustaches and a cold dead stare 
Difficult probably, but so much potential. 🙂
No people love talking about that side of drampa
Gogoat would br goat too. I'd love to sprite skiddo
Drampa/Snorlax 
Ngl that could make my Christmas better
Looking at the fam problems here lately
We can change that 
mmmm gogoat would make some sense for me for christmas
well, i cant, but feel free 
Palossand/Drampa. It eats children, then gets really pissed off about it and burns everything to the ground.
NTMs sprite
I just want UBs for all the crazy stuff they would add to the available aesthetics
drampa/alakazam for the ultimate moustache
or probopass 
Maybe one day we can teach you how to splice :p
Looks like something I’d stay away from
Whoaaaaaaa!!! Awesome. 🙂
I want UB's but that would be a huge ask with everything else, that's like a down the line thing imo
NTM always deliver
I feel like drifloon and drampa would be enemies
you'd be amazed at how art adverse i am 
i just dont do the arts
Paya what was your favorite mon this batch?
Malamar has a super villain theme, right?
luvdisc 
Wait a sec, is that the secret here? Drampa really hates ghosts, that's why he's normal type?
Cosmog fusions go wild bc of the space gas, anytime I see art online I go feral bc ITS PRETTY
That's tough. Maybe ludicolo? 🤔 I love so many
bc drifloon kidnap kids 
Ghosts scare children, so Drampa must act
tries to at least
fun fact iirc luvdisc was a last second addition bc of how many people were joking about it
Ludicolo makes me sad
I barely see sprites and when I do I barely see good ones
or well good is relative
Sprites im a fan of
Im a big Luvdisc fan for this update
I think its close second to Goliso
third is Scraggy
Right!!
Yep! Froggo can be a troll lol
Drampa would be protective of phantump though
tbh I don't buy that, I think frog just like to add fishes in last places 
stunfisk was the last pokemon before the additions and and there's bruxish
I'm glad my copium contributed to making luvdisc reality
I'm lowkey glad luvdisc got in, getting the meme mons in is always nice, and it gets them out of the way so people don't havee to bring them up anymore when new mons get added in at a later point loll
i love minior ive done like 5 sprites, i think its a relatively easy mon to sprite too
hi pory
Bruxish (which apparently my phone autocorrects to British, take that how you will), was such a great choice for PIF. 🙂
are you saying Paya lied 
Now the next meme mons they'll have to add is the monkeys in the next batch 😂
Nope it's 100% true
it wasn't planned until like the day before "Cause it would be funny"
or alomomola
No
Cosmog fusions would result in the Duskull situation on steroids lol
it's funny how it's always fishes tho 
I can't believe people didn't expect frog to do a troll mon
So many Cosmog fusions, significantly less for the evos lol
next update : frogs add 98 pokemon just so we do'nt reach 600
minior wasn't a troll mon? 
I'm obvious to whatever the duskull situation is, I've just joined tell me like I'm 5/gen
the fuckstorm that happened that day was unparalleled to anything i has seen before, it was so funny and i got to particitape too
it's kinda been frog's staple, to add a troll mon, it's his patent at this point lol
That would piss me off omg

I'd personally add a mon, I have the ability to
You should'nt have said it now he is goign to actually do it 
eviolite shenanigans
Minior was really high on my "ooh that'd be fun mechanically!" List... But seems mean to the spriters. 🙂
I'm so confuswd
is another batch planned next year :0
??????
eviolite boosts both defenses by 50%
No plans at the moment, but maybe!
I'd be more surprised if nothing happened next year given the 10 year anniversary
but next year is the 10th annivesary 'o'
wait i just realized they might be talking about sprites and not actual strats
since they said cosmog instead of cosmoem
He would try, but I'm too powerful 
whoops
whats the process to add new mons? how does it work?
It's a lot of work, i cant begin to describe it 
you say that but your previousy menioned that he got to 501 just to annoy you
Nah to annoy me he skipped 6.3 and went straight to 6.4
i've seen you play duck game, i believe it 
first you have to go to a volcano , then sacrifice your neborn , then play undertale genocide route without dying once and then you have to roll a dice to see if you'll be able to add a mon
oh I was confusing it with that
Bruh I just press buttons and 50% of the time, it works every time
you're tough to kill
what number do you need from the dice?
Can confirm, keep it secret pls
staff has a leak 
-roll 100
:game_die: 9 (1 - 100)
damn it
there was an attempt
maybe next year 🙂
did notmknow yanmega had a roll command, made funnier by the fact its disabled on deino 😛
Deino HATES fun
?tag fun
Please contact a server physician if you're experiencing any of the symptoms.
OOOOH it should have been MY newborn
That explains a lot
Yanmega also has a reputation command, but it's not enabled
Result: 4.000000
hmmm i wonder
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That's a lot
damn i couldnt kill yanmega
How long until the channel gets archived? And will it be shorter due to the 10 year anniversary?
a few days
until frog remembers i guess 😛
tho some of the dictionary definitiosn break rule 2 like fork has a bad one
Hopefully never 🥲
We don't talk about the fork one
spgen2 please don't die

ewwww general
#spriter-general
Lets hope he doesnt
Nah I'll use #spriter-general
#spriter-general will be a fine substitute
Nah both gens are weird
that's where everyone asks how to download the game every 5 seconds 😢
late but with minor I think a lot of us assumed it'd be treated like aegislash where it was just a stat swap so we wouldn't have to put up with shell form
i have almost never looked outside of this chat, announcements and spritework
society if people asked technical questions in #tech-support :
i have no idea what the other chats are like
Spriter general is great
event-general is also cool
We have a lot of different discussion
spriter general is unhinge in the good way sometimes
Sometimes it get fruity , sometimes crazy and sometimes acts normally
Tech Support in general is like that from what I've heard. Not just that channel, in real life wherever Tech Support is concerned
OH NO PLS DONT
Saw your message paya
||He will add more than planned like that
||
I get summoned there more and more these days 
Wait that means he gonna add 98 mons I outsmarted you frog 
Honestly, considering the "No more Pokemon can be added to the game" Update capped off at 420, I wouldn't be surprised if Frog capped it at the funny reddit number *10
Dont tell him or he notice
nah but imagine if it actually happens

around 1/3 of the non if list gets added, i think that would be chaos
The update would probably be filled with slot heavy mons

Sun moon legends, ultra beasts, wurmple, monkies
Spriters would probably have mixed feelings about 98 new additions
Seismitoad
I would love it
Wurmple line and the monkeys
anything new is instabad, change is bad!
Return to 151
can't wait for the Middle Of The Road Update: Oops All Midevos
may i suggest turtle?
do monkeeee
Nah how gives a crap if some mons have very few sprites for like year they would have zero if they weren’t in the game
Burmy 
I feel like the Monkes are definitely some of the last Pokemon that would be added considering they're unpopular and 6 slots are a bit much for a joke addition
Add the funny railgun stagbeetle
I can't believe it Paya
I like turtl
Each addition we ask right now is another year of them being delayed
We'd get more Triple fusions though, and everyone loves more triple fusions
he's awesome
You underestimate Froggo, he's a troll
Paya what Mon do you want?
So boring

😔
I honestly feel like the monkies have a high chance if another batch get added lol, there's always a troll mon, it's either them or alomomola or however you spell it
Drampa! 🔥
🔥
Drampa for life
Another dragon 
I dont care about type balance 😤
It's not Drampa's fault those FOOLS picked the wrong dragons 😤 loll
There's plenty of trollmons yet to be added
Exactly how I feel!
But this one will burn down bullies houses
Lumineon, Basculin, Pikaclones, Volbeat and Illumise...
yea but the one's on the lowest rung have the highest chance, and those two are the om=nes I think are on the low rung imo
Lumineon troll? Idk about that
The head fusion would go crazy
Also I'd unironically be happy with Alomomola
not a bad pokemon, and visually distinct from Luvdisc
98 additions is a respectable amount
Well I guess it depends on the person for preference on that one then
What, what
Even if it doesn’t mean we reach 600, it still allows a BUNCH of fusion potential
I always wanted Alomomola over Luvdisc cause it has the exact same aesthetic but more to it
98 feels like too much imo, too many that some will get less attention
And is also usable
Let’s gooooo unrealistic expectations have been set
Alomomola over luvdisc makes sense actually
Let’s go gambling!
I can't believe the next update will add every single remaining Ghost, Ice, and Dragon type
What if they actually do it
That would be funny
I can't believe they're adding literally all pokemon next update gadzooks
Drapion addition
Aren’t triple fusions alt going to be removed?
We will have to choose the best sprite for each one :0
From what I was seeing I think so
I can't believe Gen 10 Pokemon will be added next update before Gamefreak even released them to the public, but it was understandable when Frog brought up how his dad works at Nintendo
so generous!
Actually this makes it funnier
Unlike normal sprites, triples csn only be chosen by the head honch-toad for use game
Gen 8 and 9 are super duper diconfirm no matter what so idk if frog will use his time traveling powers
But i think you might be able to change in the pokedex? I havent gotten that far in the game lol. Only a few badges
nope
Wait you are a dev
triples were never meant to have alts
no paya is a sprite manager
We can easily manually change them tho
Paya helps a lot with the game iirc
I started it as a joke but I didn’t expect it to get this big
I'm more than a sprite manager. Shhhh
what is happening in this channel
Besides sprite manager duties, I also make the sprite packs with Kiwi (we cover for each other), dev things, ||and admin stuff||. I don't like to advertise cause I dont want to be treated differently, but I have a hand in everything behind the scenes
dehydrated piss
Yep no one notices that I'm a darker yellow than the other piss managers 😂
I'd like to keep it that way

My favorite part about the colored roles was during the kalos starter reveal
who needs colored roles, let's all go back to default 
When we sacrificed the yellow role
B-but pachirisu.....
The squirrel is fine
I respect its accomplishments
:D
Probably 2025 or 2026 who knows 
Pachi actually has a distinct look unlike most Pikaclones and I respect that
drink water
Musharna would be cool
you silly
spriters do not simply drink water
they consume hydration from sprotes 
spriters just die
that's why the spriters with the most sprotes are blue
and best sprotes are even BLUER

that means they're suffocating
but instead of being steve, we create a lot of minecraft joke alts with porygons! 
when you become a mod, you're on the verge of death
it means they're hydrated
sprite managers are yellow because they barely have time to make sprites while they manage fr 
and everyone else can drink water normally 
Oh my god, thats based ||did i use thst right?||
I mean
it works 
(send help
)
Wait, “based” is brain rot speak???
I thought it was around since TF2 was a thing there for making it old and not brain rot
shhhh don't burst the bubble 
clearly it IS right?
TBF a lot of TF2 content was the brainrot of that era
It doesn’t seem as bad as “rizz”
just old brainrot
Oof 
rizz is actually one of the better ones ngl.
it's just short for "Charisma"
Eh can’t get over how it sounds
Huh never knew that. Still doesn’t change my opinion
I'm not gonna judge the younger generations for what they find amusing considering I watched videos like "Scout Breaks His Fingers" a few years ago
I think Rizz has the best chance of current brainrot to become an word people use after the brain rot fades out 
There’s worse….

yes
ytps are peak brainrot (totally not generational bias)
some of that I cannot say in here 

The only one I really find super annoying is Ohio
I thought that meme died ages ago???
Imo its Cooked
tbh what defintion of cooked are you talking about?
also wasn't stuff like yapping used way before the new brainrot?
I use “Cooked” on a daily basis lol
like stuff like "we are cooked" was kinda used in place of "we are screwed"
"Crash out" is a decently fun one IMO
I see W and L being used as adjectives surviving for quite some time 
I won't use it but I won't die of cringe at seeing someone use it
W W moment
Same
Cuphead used this term in the DLC
idk I never played the dlc 
I think the craziest one I've seen catching on is "self report." I've never seen that before Amogus was a thing, but it seems to be catching on due to how well it works in a lot of situations
never seen someone use it outside of among us
What does that mean? I don’t play among us
when someone kills an person in the game and reports the body
Slang wise, it means to tell on yourself.






