#toki pona Rock Paper Scissors

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keen cave
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I’d like to make a toki pona version of Rock Paper Scissors with the toki pona animal words:

  • jan
  • soweli
  • waso
  • akesi
  • pipi
  • kala
  • kijetesantakalu
    Perhaps this should be changed to some other words so that it’s easier to decide which ones beat the others. I’d also like to create hand signs for each of these, like in Rock Paper Scissors.
    I might not do this right now, but I wanted to make the post anyway
tropic crane
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the kijetesantakalu calls

keen cave
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ooh nice one

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kijetesantakalu it is then

tropic crane
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each word will beat 3 others, and be beaten by the other 3

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kijetesantakalu li moli e pipi e kala e akesi

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pona ala pona

keen cave
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well i feel like there should be some logic to which animal defeats what

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since regular rock paper scissors is kinda arbitrary

tropic crane
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true

keen cave
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like how does paper best rock

tropic crane
keen cave
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a a a

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i like @solar hollow’s hand sign for soweli

tropic crane
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but you're right logic is very helpful when there are so many interactions to remember

keen cave
tropic crane
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idea (musi): kiwen lipu kipisi

keen cave
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a a

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i mean a simpler version could be fun too

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along with the 7-word one

tropic crane
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we could have one with 3 of them, one with 5 of them, and one with 7 of them

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so that you can start off easy and learn more as you go

keen cave
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ooh true
maybe each one could have a different theme/word set too

tropic crane
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maybe

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but if you just take a subset of these, then you can memorise the interactions between them, then add more

keen cave
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hmm true

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start with soweli waso and uh smth else

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i feel like soweli would defeat most of the others lol so not sure what to use

tropic crane
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this could be a hand sign for kala

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with the thumb and next finger

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you get what i mean?

keen cave
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ni anu seme

tropic crane
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yeah exactly

keen cave
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that works

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i was thinking just a flat hand turned sideways but yours is better i think

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i was just gonna do this

tropic crane
keen cave
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yeah true

tropic crane
keen cave
tropic crane
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yeah

keen cave
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hm maybe

tropic crane
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although it'll be like "no i wasn't going to change to soweli i meant jan all along" and opportunity for cheating like that

keen cave
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true

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i was thinking of just doing a circle

tropic crane
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yeah that works

keen cave
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like zjan without the body

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i was thinking a flat hand for akesi

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with fingers spread out maybe

tropic crane
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yeah that's nice

keen cave
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like that

tropic crane
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actually maybe that can be pipi

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and akesi is more circular

tropic crane
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fingers pointing inwards

keen cave
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i was actually thinking the opposite way around

tropic crane
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i'm imagining a frog here

keen cave
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i would’ve said that for pipi lmao

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i was thinking of a spider with legs curved in

tropic crane
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either works depending on which you envision

keen cave
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for akesi i was thinking of a lizard spread out and lying flat

tropic crane
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ok let's do flat for akesi, curved for pipi

keen cave
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alright cool

tropic crane
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maybe palm up for waso

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to symbolise a wing

keen cave
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you could curve your hand too maybe?

tropic crane
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yeah

keen cave
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this maybe

tropic crane
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like akesi+pipi flipped

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perfect

keen cave
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right now for kijetesantakalu

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this one seems a bit more complicated lol

tropic crane
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now we tackle the hard one

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best for last

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what's the luka pona for it

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it's making a mask or smth

keen cave
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let me check

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ah right

tropic crane
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we could go with 2 fingers = zkijetesantakalu

keen cave
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like that?

tropic crane
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yeah

keen cave
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yeah that works

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that’s all of them, cool

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now which ones do you think are best for the first set of 3

tropic crane
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waso kala soweli

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the core animal words

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then we can add akesi and pipi

keen cave
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that sounds good yeah

tropic crane
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and then jan and kijetesantakalu

keen cave
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soweli > waso > kala
and then uhh somehow kala defeats soweli?

tropic crane
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yeah

keen cave
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i mean it’s funny so it’s memorable i suppose

tropic crane
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then which wins akesi or pipi

keen cave
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i think i should draw a diagram for this lol

tropic crane
keen cave
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i can do it

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i don’t mind

tropic crane
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i have it up already

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do you have a lucidspark account?

keen cave
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alright

keen cave
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i can make one

tropic crane
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you just need a google acct

keen cave
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alright gimme a sec

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alright i’ve got it

keen cave
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ooh i see

tropic crane
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chatting requires premium 😭

keen cave
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a a a

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we can use discord lol

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i think pipi should beat soweli but get beaten by kala

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there isn’t exactly logic there

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but i think it would be fine

tropic crane
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does pipi or waso win

keen cave
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waso i think

tropic crane
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then pipi beats akesi

keen cave
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hmm

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i mean i think both would beat pipi but for the game we can go with akesi beats pipi

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and pipi beats waso

tropic crane
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@worn zealot what were you going to say

solar hollow
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i would think pipi is eaten by kala, waso, and akesi
and bites soweli, jan, and kijetesantakalu

tropic crane
keen cave
solar hollow
tropic crane
solar hollow
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you see now the rock is covered

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msa

tropic crane
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pink is mode 1

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with only 3

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orange is mode 2

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and blue is mode 3

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i picked... the worst colours to highlight with

keen cave
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i was thinking of making a seperate diagram for each so it's easier to see

keen cave
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@tropic crane what do you think about translating the chant too?

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Rock, Paper, Scissors, one two three

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"utala musi, o pana!"

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and then throw out the sign on the last syllable of pana

tropic crane
keen cave
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me lol

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but we can change that too

tropic crane
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here in Oselija we just say rock paper scissors or rock paper scissors shoot

keen cave
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yeah people here do that too

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but also 123

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depends on who you ask

tropic crane
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i think "utala muSI" is good

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short and sweet

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the sign is thrown on the si

keen cave
tropic crane
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anyway that choice is up to the players

keen cave
tropic crane
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almost always

tropic crane
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actually i've neever heard rock paper scissors without the shoot

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only paper scissors rock

keen cave
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paper scissors rock???

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people do that???

tropic crane
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yes very commonly

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the sign is thrown on rock

tropic crane
keen cave
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fair lol

tropic crane
keen cave
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i'll just add the chant it

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"utala musi"

solar hollow
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shoot is very important so you can cheat and do finger guns which win against everything

worn zealot
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the tp equivalent would be signing ijo

keen cave
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a a a

worn zealot
keen cave
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this is the finished game

tropic crane
keen cave
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cool

tropic crane
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(i should be sleeping but 🤷 )

keen cave
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can i put it in #pana ?

tropic crane
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i don't have enough time to craft a lipu announcment

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so you can do that part

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@keen cave now you have to wait 15 minutes

keen cave
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PAKALA

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oh well lol

tropic crane
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oh well

keen cave
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i accidentally pressed send before it was finished so i had to delete it

tropic crane
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a a a

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you can wait 15 mins and then send

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but fr now mi o lape

keen cave
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o lape pona a

tropic crane
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o musi pona a

ocean flicker
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Kiwen lipu kipisi!

worn zealot
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nimisin kipesi - cutting, but in a gray/brown way
< kipisi kapesi

solar hollow
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thought i was in bad nimisin for a sec

modest pine
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toki

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musi ni li pona a tawa mi

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taso, is it possible to make the diagrams symmetric?

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so that each node (animal?) has the same arrow arrangement

keen cave
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but we decided to change it so that it was more logical

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a symmetrical diagram only looks good, the connections don’t make as much sense

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currently, all three of the “original” words beat kijetesantakalu

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and jan beats all the originals

small spear
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So we already have 3 animal, 5 animal, and 7 animal versions. Can the one animal version be called "kala"?

tropic crane
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sounds good

small spear
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Peak. Rock paper scissors but only kala is the best version

tropic crane
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kala kala kala!

small spear
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o kala!

keen cave
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i think one of my friends wants to make a 9-animal version florshed

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with kasi and soko

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not really animals but yk

tropic crane
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soko beats kasi, kijetesantakalu, akesi, soweli
kasi beats pipi, waso, kala, jan

keen cave
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i think kijetesantakalu should beat soko though

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because kijetesantakalu tonsi li lanpan e soko

tropic crane
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oh yeah!

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soko beats kasi, pipi, akesi, soweli
kasi beats kala, waso, kijetesantakalu, jan

idle swallow
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the system what bets what isn't really logical tho

small spear
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Do a 10 animal version and add me!

idle swallow
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and hard to memorize
I think we should try to pick words that make a logical but fair

small spear
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I lose to everything despair

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I also liked what someone said about using the luka pona signs for the hand symbols!

idle swallow
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I have made this 5 star cycle thing that is fair and only has a few sorta illogical ones
it's for things tho

small spear
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Does this game have a name? musi Luka Utala?

idle swallow
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no not really

seli🔥li pakala e kasi🌱 e wawa⚡
kasi🌱 li pakala e kiwen🪨 e telo💧
kiwen🪨 li pakala e wawa⚡e seli🔥
wawa⚡li pakala e telo💧e kasi🌱
telo💧li pakala e seli🔥e kiwen 🪨

small spear
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This looks like one of those emoji shitposts lol

idle swallow
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how do u feel about it

small spear
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Ooh I feel like this is really cool!

keen cave
keen cave
modest pine
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or else the game is unfair

small spear
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I lose to everything twice despair despair

bright kernel
tropic crane
tropic crane
bright kernel
bright kernel
bright kernel
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pipi beats jan lol.
i suppose pipi scare jan

tropic crane
bright kernel
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i love this

storm saffron
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tenpo mute li weka la mi toki nanpa wan

candid jay
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version based on the 5 elements of chinese culture

tropic crane
tropic crane
storm saffron
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kasi li anpa tan seli ala

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kasi li anpa e seli

tropic crane
candid jay
tropic crane
candid jay
tropic crane
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sad

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you should make some

candid jay
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I'll try