gisi gisi — toki kili pi toki pona tan namako Kolisin | ma pona pi toki pona | Page 12

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:14 AM

#

paka tbh

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 6:14 AM

#

paka....

#

leme paka / leme namunen

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 6:15 AM

#

leme

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:15 AM

#

leme paka - calque of moving from english

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 6:15 AM

#

ya

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:15 AM

#

OH YOU MEANT IT LITERALLY

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 6:15 AM

#

huh

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:15 AM

#

A A i was saying paka to the cartwheel image

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 6:16 AM

#

no yeah i was but also like

#

leme paka - moving emtoions

#

like emotions that donts stay in place

#

starnge stimulation

#

or also leme namunen

#

for what kisi is befallen by

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:16 AM

#

kisi what are you befallen by

#

telekinetically moves you to a chaise longue with my mind

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 6:17 AM

#

what am i befallen by

#

i dont know what i am befallen by

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:17 AM

#

hm. on sense's note

#

ive been thinking about sona for a while but i haven't really put it on the playground because we were sili gisi at the time

#

sona could merge with some ken to additionally mean skill and profession, or it could merge with some pilin to mean observe

#

tuki tiki has tula which means both know and feel

#

that kind of thing

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 6:19 AM

#

hrm mmm nids

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:20 AM

#

that would make Two pilin words though like wed have original pilin and transitive pilin in the same spot

#

it is something to think about

#

oh yeah saying all this as it relates to the people craving word for perception in case that wasnt clear

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 6:21 AM

#

correct me iif im wrong but pilin la its not perception stimulation anu ala

#

its only psychological/emotional

#

g

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:22 AM

#

mhm! but im just going like nn. like bringing out my sona and dropping it on the table along with everything else because it's somewhat related

#

like the split between leme/stimulation could be like. it affects you vs it makes itself known to you (sona/pilin merger)

#

pilin IS physical though btw it's not perception as in it's not a deliberate action but pilin do be physical

#

soweli li pana e pilin luka suwi

#

pilin uta pi moku ni li nasa

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 6:38 AM

#

atomic halo like the split between leme/stimulation could be like. it affects you vs it make...

nnn yeah

#

thats a very good distinction act yeah im down for that

#

sona/ken/pilin merger?

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:48 AM

#

in the playground for another day

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 6:48 AM

#

i think i have a word-ish

#

idk

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:48 AM

#

the evil thing about it is that im not exactly like, sure? what its semantic core is

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 6:48 AM

#

its my turn on the xbox rn i'll talk abt it later

#

maybe

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:48 AM

#

whats in the (sona && pilin && !leme) section yk

#

alternative evil idea: its Just sona and you treat your body parts as having their own sonas

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 6:49 AM

#

armsona

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:50 AM

#

luka mi li sona e puwa soweli

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 6:50 AM

#

gbh tbh btyyh

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:50 AM

#

chilly urchin armsona

TRUEE

#

i think isolating it to sona but more flexible will help like. distinguish it from the very-close-to-leme cases

#

unsure though

#

route numero tres i may also tweak leme's definition to be more neutral and less intense

#

i got too gay and wrote passion in as the very first translation

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 6:56 AM

#

'a'e 'i 'a'e si leme gay gay

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:57 AM

#

leme: feeling, emotion, sensation; influence, affect, presence
[sona]: perceive, sense, know, think, awareness, (? im still kind of eyeing gisi's sona-potential ngl)

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:57 AM

#

chilly urchin 'a'e 'i 'a'e si leme gay gay

TBHH

#

the more i think about sona the like harder it is to explain it

#

in the context of leme and gisi being here

lucid bay Apr 23, 2024, 6:58 AM

#

iliek the word sona itis an interesting wrod:]

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:58 AM

#

toki pona sona or this sona

lucid bay Apr 23, 2024, 6:58 AM

#

sory thats not the most useffful contribution but liek

#

🫵 sona gisigisi

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 6:59 AM

#

rubs temples

#

in the playground for another day

lucid bay Apr 23, 2024, 6:59 AM

#

ive always jsut lieked da liek

#

contrast betwen gut feeling and brain feeling

#

instinct adn intuition . .

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:02 AM

#

#

playground entry made

#

'a'e si sona lu - they're very perceptive - things communicate to them well - 'alapa si gisi lu ka leme 'a'e
'a'e si sona lu - ALT. they're very smart - good ideas are within them - gisi lu ka sesli 'a'e
luka 'a'e 'i keles si sona - their hand inspects/feels the root - the root makes an effect on their hand - keles 'i luka 'a'e si leme

#

experiments with sona and the best alternative phrasings i can think of

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:07 AM

#

okay uhm hi :gisigkai: 'ulung for the sona word

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:07 AM

#

wheres she from [tucks hair behind my ear]

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:07 AM

#

where it come from.

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:07 AM

#

from uhhh Tagalog dunong "wisdom" and Scot gaelic giùlan "behavior"

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:08 AM

#

motion accepted or whatever they say

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:08 AM

#

i was just messing ard with whatever wiktionary was giving me

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:09 AM

#

atomic halo - 'a'e si sona lu - they're very perceptive - things communicate to them well - ...

i enjoy this

#

the X 'ulung the Y - X knows the Y - X feels Y

#

its nice

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:09 AM

#

what do you think about the alt phrases

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:09 AM

#

i would input more mbut my brai ndeied

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:09 AM

#

the third one definitely has a like. vibe shift because thats why we were talking about this in the first place

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:09 AM

#

i think its cool

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:09 AM

#

but what about the other ones

#

do you think saying the kales is leme'ing the hand as opposed to the person like. mitigates the vibe enough

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:10 AM

#

its interesting

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:11 AM

#

i think emotional leme is a leme that affects you in a way thats not limited to one organ, so maybe phrasing it to limit one organ will change things maybe? perhaps?

#

keles leme'ing hand (causing an allergic reaction)

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:11 AM

#

kales leme the hand - kales is making the hand feel something Strong
kales 'ulung the hand - it is being touched w hand

#

anu seme

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:12 AM

#

kales 'ulung the hand (the potato becomes cognizant of the hand)

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:12 AM

#

oh my god

#

what if

#

the red is familiar/accustomed to the hand

#

idk im a bit woozy rn

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:12 AM

#

TRUEE

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:12 AM

#

(not woozy thoughts hour)

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:13 AM

#

sama a

#

nesku a

#

nesku m

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:13 AM

#

ive also updated leme with my mildly less intense redefinition

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:13 AM

#

she slayed too close to the mother

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:13 AM

#

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:13 AM

#

oh yeah g

#

sorry

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:13 AM

#

👍

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:13 AM

#

i forget

#

leme - passion, emotion, sensation, influence, persuasion
'ulug - perceive, understand, aware, realise

#

one from the heart, one from the head

#

'uge 'i leme kemu si 'ulug - i perceive your emotion -> i understand how you feel, i know that feeling
'uge 'i 'ulug kemu si leme - i feel your perception -> i relate to your perception, your knowledge moves me

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:18 AM

#

im kind of looking nervously at it in part because like. pilin being both physical and emotional is awesome, though i guess this is a different dichotomy and it's more like emotional/cerebral? still though

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:18 AM

#

it can stay in the playground for now

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:18 AM

#

o awen play

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:18 AM

#

i think this is something that sint easily differentaiatein

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:18 AM

#

yeqah

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:18 AM

#

mi awen play !!

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:18 AM

#

i think it would be better if we ewwerent so fucked up

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:18 AM

#

a lot more thinking need

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:19 AM

#

its like u just lifterd up a rock and ur talking to Kisi and i

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:19 AM

#

menu 'uge 'i 'ispi si 'ulug - a person of mine is accustomed to this - i know a guy

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:19 AM

#

chilly urchin i think it would be better if we ewwerent so fucked up

4 silly animals rolling about in the grass field

#

making a tokiponido

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:19 AM

#

yy yea :3

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:19 AM

#

who knows what they will make

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:19 AM

#

TBHHG

#

one thing i do like is that if we're making the emotional/cerebral split we're also splitting them by how the words are used

#

emotional is a passive experience from something else while cerebral is something actively known

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:21 AM

#

hrrrmmmmmmmmmmm

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:21 AM

#

heavy quotes around a lot of those because english words stink but yk

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:21 AM

#

something actively known can still have leme aspekcs

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:22 AM

#

nods sagely

#

watching tv be like 'uge 'i kusi si 'ulug 'ispi

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:24 AM

#

listening to ur ipod be like 'uge 'i kusi si 'ulug 'ispi

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:24 AM

#

TRYEE

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:24 AM

#

looking at your robot lover be like 'uge 'i kusi si 'ulug 'ispi

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:24 AM

#

black mirror plot g

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:25 AM

#

woke mirror cuz it's a functional relationship

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:25 AM

#

so called free thinkers when they 'ulug 'ispi

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:25 AM

#

true,,,

#

wait

#

'ulug/gisi pair oh no

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:25 AM

#

^ the horrors

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:25 AM

#

leme/'ulug/gisi

#

its a Trio

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:26 AM

#

that's why i had alt phrases for 'ulug use gisi

#

i love fucking around with gisi

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:26 AM

#

yeah i notic

#

gisi is a very nice wor

#

d

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:26 AM

#

gweesee

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:26 AM

#

if you want to put less load on gisi a concept could be a nesku gisi?

#

a thought item. a unit of communication

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:27 AM

#

'uge 'i gisi si 'ulug

hm

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:27 AM

#

they understand language lets go

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:27 AM

#

on one note

#

would 'ulug take away from the future body part words

#

unless we dont plan on making them

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:28 AM

#

i think we still need some level of bodicity

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:28 AM

#

we definitely would be doing 'ulug kute rather than kute to mean hear something

#

n...

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:30 AM

#

there is one thing we cld do which is to have compounds instead of indivdiual words for the body parts

#

butttttttt lexicalisation hmmmm

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:30 AM

#

ka 'ulug 'uge for imo/tawa mi btw

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:31 AM

#

'ispi si lu kuu (ka 'ulug 'uge)

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:31 AM

#

lu...

#

i should find an etymology for my moku

#

i never playground with anything if it doesnt have a word unforch

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:33 AM

#

gr4rrrrrrrrrr

#

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:33 AM

#

im tempted to make more words but i think i'll take a break mnow

#

also 'ulug is my first non vulgar etym :tad

#

a:

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:34 AM

#

nvm i forgot word hard

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:34 AM

#

uh oh

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:34 AM

#

moku banished to playground for another 7000 years

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:34 AM

#

moku la combine with uta g?

#

or uta/lupa

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:34 AM

#

oh yeah i had a moku going on which is why i said moku specifically

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:35 AM

#

yah in the playgrnd

#

js throwng ideas ard

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:35 AM

#

mouth should get banished to lupa tbh

#

nena nose but uta mouth..? unbelievable.

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:36 AM

#

lupa nosa

#

ni

#

nop

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:36 AM

#

atomic halo mouth should get banished to lupa tbh

chinese 口 realnes tbh

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:36 AM

#

chinese 口 realnes

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:37 AM

#

TBHH

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:37 AM

#

atomic halo nena nose but uta mouth..? unbelievable.

nena nose,,, i dont know

#

nena is weird

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:37 AM

#

pukis nose and pukis mouth

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:37 AM

#

like yeah nena but nena is just nena

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:37 AM

#

nena is so funny

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:37 AM

#

iykwim

#

nena is its own thing how do u combine nena actually

#

like. protruberance? then what

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:38 AM

#

every day i say i want to sniff things and then it's like "oh you put bumps in the pie? you inflate the flower?

#

i want to say i sniff things*

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:39 AM

#

azure gulch like. protruberance? then what

yeah the shape words are a bit like. hard to change

#

oh well we eat that pie when we put bumps in it

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:40 AM

#

hhrgghgghhh

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:40 AM

#

namunen tho

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:40 AM

#

also suli/lili btw. still thinking about them

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:40 AM

#

i think uhm

#

isntead of having words for big and small we can have one size word and just use comparisons-ish

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:41 AM

#

like i think a generic intensifier and lilifier word are still good to have so making a word that means measurement more like. adds a layer on top rather than replacing suli

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:41 AM

#

ka [size] [thing] - about the size of thing

#

coming back to my degree ramble the other day like
it can also stretch to temeprature, length, speed, price, etc

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:41 AM

#

every language needs words for good bad big small and protuberance -rene descartes

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:42 AM

#

mmm true ig

#

we still dont have an ike right unless we go for the mini haha

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:42 AM

#

azure gulch isntead of having words for big and small we can have one size word and just use...

yeah that was the vibe

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:42 AM

#

:gisigkai: mucho

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:42 AM

#

please lets not go for the mini haha

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:42 AM

#

i forgot what were the suggestions

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:42 AM

#

chilly urchin please lets not go for the mini haha

nooo dont go for the mini youre so sexy aha

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:42 AM

#

sa? sampa?

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:43 AM

#

sa sampa 'ala salin

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:43 AM

#

lots of sa

#

people crave the s correlation

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:45 AM

#

tbhhh

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:45 AM

#

guhjizi guhjizi

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:49 AM

#

chilly urchin guhjizi guhjizi

This reads like pinyin

#

Or some Artifact

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:49 AM

#

or some nesku

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:49 AM

#

Or some nesku

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:50 AM

#

lots of gisi pagkan this batch. i need to go translate a paragraph

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:50 AM

#

Ok

#

ka 'ispi pes kemu si 'ispi

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:51 AM

#

i dont think we need the pes on vocatives iirc afaik imo?

#

and if we do then we shouldnt because its redundant maybe

#

they call me the particle dropper

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:51 AM

#

yeah I was thinking that

#

Why is

#

No

#

That's not vocative that's imperative

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 7:51 AM

#

i used the wrong word. same principle though

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 7:51 AM

#

Oh yeah then yeah

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 7:56 AM

#

lol lecturer js assigned work but im here thinking abt úlug

#

'ulug***

#

lazy to edit rn

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 8:03 AM

#

this translation is so hard actually nvm i walk into the woods

#

im all gisi'd out from rigorous gisi pagkan examination

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 8:04 AM

#

ka gisi pukis Ka'i pes kemu si magi lu si gisi lu

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 8:05 AM

#

tbh..

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 8:05 AM

#

Ka gis hi

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 8:05 AM

#

kagishi

wispy tendonBOT Apr 23, 2024, 8:10 AM

#

oh were getting scrambled good lourid

#

hi guyss 'uge ka sesli sesli 'ulug 💔 'ulug 'ispi si sampa 'i sagke 'uge si magi

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 8:11 AM

#

Hiiiiiiiiii

wispy tendonBOT Apr 23, 2024, 8:12 AM

#

hayyyyy

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 8:14 AM

#

ka ispi 'uge si kipa ka sesli supa magi

wispy tendonBOT Apr 23, 2024, 8:16 AM

#

magi si luuuuu m

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 8:16 AM

#

sesli 'ulug 'uge si kepus

#

'uge 'i coffee si esun

wispy tendonBOT Apr 23, 2024, 8:16 AM

#

M!!! KA 'ISPI SESLI SI KEPUS !!!

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 8:16 AM

#

wispy tendon magi si luuuuu m

nooooo

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 8:22 AM

#

gisi "ka 'ispi" si ka nesku gisi "ni la" g?

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 8:24 AM

#

oh yeah we switch the vocative/imperative markers around a lot

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 8:25 AM

#

oh

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 8:25 AM

#

currently ka kemu X [pes ...] and ka 'ispi X [si ...] respectively

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 8:25 AM

#

guess that's how it is when it's a developing lang lol

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 8:25 AM

#

atomic halo currently ka kemu X [pes ...] and ka 'ispi X [si ...] respectively

icic Will take note

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 8:26 AM

#

glocative tbh

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 8:28 AM

#

tbhhh

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 8:29 AM

#

tbh

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 11:41 AM

#

खाना

#

in my quest for moku etymology i think this is a really funny combination of meanings

#

סָפַג

#

how i look with safag in my bio

#

kind of loving this one for the include so that it no longer has separate existence

#

other miscellaneous dictionaries have given like. impregnate/saturate

#

the coda -g is hard though. thats fucked up

#

sapan

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 12:12 PM

#

metta means "the buddhist practice of lovingkindness towards others" in most languages and "fill with food" in icelandic

#

me and your mother

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 12:20 PM

#

atomic halo `खाना`

third definition is in chinese too i think

#

吃一拳 to get punched

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 12:20 PM

#

people when something bad happens to them: ohh fuck im so moku rn

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 12:20 PM

#

(only physical violence)

#

they're absorbing the violence through their body

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 12:21 PM

#

ăn đòn... 🧠

#

ăn cái tát even

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 12:22 PM

#

atomic halo me and your mother

gisi gisi's epiku /musi

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 12:24 PM

#

TRUEEEE

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 12:27 PM

#

bro,,,, kemu si so wet rn (you're so awesome)

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 12:28 PM

#

paka wet - water, parkour

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 12:29 PM

#

TRUE,, ,,,

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 12:48 PM

#

guys how do i gisify safag #gitl #girl #gifl

#

i think im settling on that unless a better one comes along (same as lus

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 12:48 PM

#

sepeg anu seme

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 12:49 PM

#

both are central a's btw im pretty sure

#

only n/s at the end of the word despair i also changed 'ulug to 'ulun after remembering

balmy solstice Apr 23, 2024, 12:50 PM

#

sepe

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 12:50 PM

#

i reverse it into gapas because hebrew is written right to left /musi

#

sepe...

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 12:50 PM

#

atomic halo only n/s at the end of the word <:despair:827484568998117377> i also changed 'ul...

wait Hwta,,,,, fuck,,,,,

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 12:51 PM

#

ya💔

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 12:51 PM

#

💔💔💔

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 12:51 PM

#

g coda is only when it's assimilated into k

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 12:56 PM

#

atomic halo guys how do i gisify safag #gitl #girl #gifl

here me out,,, sasas

#

(/musi)(g????)

balmy solstice Apr 23, 2024, 12:57 PM

#

~~sæsæs (the æ is both a and e, at the same time)~~

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 12:58 PM

#

TRUEEE

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 12:58 PM

#

balmy solstice ~~sæsæs (the æ is both a and e, at the same time)~~

/säsäs/ anu seme

remote junco Apr 23, 2024, 12:58 PM

#

gisi las‘e

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 12:58 PM

#

GISI! LAS'E!

balmy solstice Apr 23, 2024, 12:59 PM

#

seses
sasas
but layered together

#

two mouths needed

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 12:59 PM

#

only pronounceable when physically eating

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 12:59 PM

#

lu...

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 1:00 PM

#

'uge 'i (fruit) si *stuffs food in mouth* sasas

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 3:47 PM

#

kusi si kales ka las'e sapa 'alapa - the tool rusts from absorbing air
pa'ula 'i pukis ka nesku suli sesli si sapa - the isopods consume the whale
'uge 'i kusi kemu si sapa - i took/ate your tools
kemu ka sapa 'uge - youre a part of me

#

menu ka sapa kusi - cyborg, glados

#

nesku sapa - food / currently separate soon-to-be-component / conglomerate

#

using sapa for lanpan once here because ive been like "if i wanted to say steal without lanpan i would be all like mi mi e ijo sina"

#

your item is part of my domain now. sorry!

azure gulch Apr 23, 2024, 4:08 PM

#

'uge 'i nesku kemu si 'uge

#

i me ur thing

#

sapa lanpan is fun

chilly urchin Apr 23, 2024, 4:11 PM

#

sipi sipi sapa sapa

atomic halo Apr 23, 2024, 4:14 PM

#

TBHH

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 2:32 AM

#

a.. mi wile toki sin kepeken nimi Pispis tan wile sona

#

taso lawa mi li ike li ken ala pali e ijo sin

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:18 AM

#

nimi Sagke li ken ala ken sama nimi Awen

chilly urchin Apr 24, 2024, 5:18 AM

#

o toki e pali sona sina

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:19 AM

#

wawa Sagke li ken awen ni e ijo: wawa Sagke li lon ala la ijo li pini

#

'uge 'i paka nesku si sagke - mi awen e tawa ijo; ijo li awen tawa tan mi

#

ona li sama lili lon ni

chilly urchin Apr 24, 2024, 5:24 AM

#

a... nnnn. ken. ni li kipisi pi kon nimi, taso, ken

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:24 AM

#

'uge 'i [seli] si sagke ka kusi nesku sapa mukaski - mi awen e seli kepeken kiwen pimeja; kiwen li sama moku li sama sagke tawa seli

#

awen ni la, ijo li pini ala e pakala; taso la, ona li pana e wawa awen, anu seme

#

n. ilo li kasi ala e mi lon ni tan seme

#

b

#

a.

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:27 AM

#

atomic halo 'uge 'i [seli] si sagke ka kusi nesku sapa mukaski - mi awen e seli kepeken kiwe...

taso nimi 'g' li lon ni a...

#

g

#

sagke

#

mi sagke e sina

#

'uge si sagke

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:27 AM

#

sina jo e sitelen ni (') la
ilo li oko ala

#

'like this jsmxkdmfnfkndk'

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:28 AM

#

'uge 'i sagke

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:28 AM

#

nấ

#

a

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:28 AM

#

'uge 'i paka nesku si sagke - mi awen e tawa ijo

#

n.. nasa

#

penis balls - mi toki e ni

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:28 AM

#

ilo mi li lon toki Ựie

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:28 AM

#

??!???!

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:28 AM

#

nấ

#

nasa

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:28 AM

#

qwertyuo -

#

qwertyui - mi

#

qwertyoi - mi toki e ni

#

nasa...

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:29 AM

#

'qerty -

#

a

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:29 AM

#

qenis balls - mi toki e ni

#

penis qalls - mi toki e ni

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:29 AM

#

o sitelen e " lon sinpin

#

anu la '

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:29 AM

#

n.. ilo li lukin ala e b d g anu seme

#

lukin ala e b g anu seme

#

lukin ala e balls sagke anu seme

#

nasa a...

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:30 AM

#

sitelen li lon insa " ' - la ilo li oko ala

#

" rkkedjkdjxkdmd -

#

a

#

'rmdmcjdkjdkdjd -

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:30 AM

#

atomic halo penis balls - mi toki e ni

taso nimi B ni li lon ala sitelen

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:30 AM

#

ilo li akesi e toki sina

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:31 AM

#

kusi si pukis

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:31 AM

#

a a a

#

"frog -

#

" frog -

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:31 AM

#

penis balls

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:31 AM

#

"rrrrrrrr -

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:31 AM

#

penis balls -

#

penis balls - mi

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:31 AM

#

nnn o sitelen e " anu '

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:31 AM

#

SEME

#

penis balls - mi toki

#

penis balls - mi toki e ni

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:32 AM

#

O SITELEN E NI: ->>>> " LON SINPIN TOKI SINA

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:32 AM

#

atomic halo penis balls - mi toki e ni

toki mi li sama taso ilo li ante /!?!/

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:32 AM

#

sama "Like this mrfjnckfnfkfm -

#

Fuck

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:32 AM

#

taso penis balls nanpa wan la mi sitelen ala e ni, taso kin la ilo li lukin ala

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:32 AM

#

"Jkdmckdmdkj -

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:32 AM

#

mi wile sona e tan pi nasa ni

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:33 AM

#

nnnn nimi sinpin li suli la ona li oko ala anu seme

#

Roblox

#

CROQUET

#

a

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:33 AM

#

nimi open li suli ala lon toki mi

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:33 AM

#

nasa

#

ilo li nasa

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:33 AM

#

paka nesku si sagke - mi awen e tawa ijo

#

nasa..

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:33 AM

#

o 'care ala o Gisi Gisi

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:34 AM

#

lu. 'uge si gisi gisi

#

"lu. 'uge si gisi gisi"

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:34 AM

#

🎉

#

"ka 'ispi menu [ale] si gisi gisi"

#

([ale] li seme lon toki Gisi Gisi)

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:35 AM

#

"gisi gisi 'i kusi pagkan si kepus spair "

#

nimi Ale li lon ala :[

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:35 AM

#

seme a!!!

#

nnnn

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:35 AM

#

mi wile awen e nimi Kepus kin lon lawa mi

#

tenpo mute la sona li weka tan mi

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:36 AM

#

nnn

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:38 AM

#

sili [lipu] si kepus - mi pini e pali lipu la lipu li lon li pona
sili [lipu] si magi - mi pini pakala e pali lipu. pali sin ala li kama

#

ni nanpa tu la lipu li pona ala li moli

#

nasin nimi ni la sina pilin seme

#

mi toki e ni lon tenpo pini: nimi Pini li nasa lili tawa mi tan tu kon. pini pona en pini pakala li ken

#

nimi Kepus en nimi Magi li lon la ona li ken ala ken nimi tu e kon tu ni? nasin ni li pona ala pona?

#

mi lukin e

to end, to die, to complete, to finish, destination, result, consequence, death, to cease, to stop
la, nimi Kepus li ken jo e kon tu tawa mi

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:43 AM

#

atomic halo sili [lipu] si kepus - mi pini e pali lipu la lipu li lon li pona sili [lipu] si...

aaa ilo li lukin ala e nimi G pi toki ni la wile sona 'i 'uge si leme

#

'uge 'i 'ulun kusi si 'ulun kipa

#

n. ken la mi toki pona mute lon tenpo poka la ilo li lukin ala e nasa lili

#

gisi gisi sagke

#

to end, to die, to complete, to finish, destination, result, consequence, death, to cease, to stop

#

nasa.

#

'uge si

#

'ispi kipa

#

ken la mi o tu e nimi Kepus e nimi Pini

#

ona li jo e kon "result, consequence" kin

#

mi wile sona wawa e kon ni

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:47 AM

#

atomic halo mi toki e ni lon tenpo pini: nimi Pini li nasa lili tawa mi tan tu kon. pini pon...

kon tu li "close" li "end" anu seme

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:48 AM

#

"complete" en "interrupt" tawa mi

#

"interrupt" anu "end prematurely" g?

#

kokosila...

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:48 AM

#

atomic halo "complete" en "interrupt" tawa mi

aaa sona

#

nnnn

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:49 AM

#

n.. nimi Kepus li ken "result" la, mi ken tu e ona kepeken nimi sin - sama "pini pona en pini pakala"

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:49 AM

#

atomic halo nimi Kepus en nimi Magi li lon la ona li ken ala ken nimi tu e kon tu ni? nasin ...

mi la nasin ni li pona

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:50 AM

#

kepus sa - interruption, bad ending
kepus lu - completion, good ending

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:51 AM

#

azure gulch mi la nasin ni li pona

pilin mi la nimi Magi li ken sama nimi Pini lon ni: mi pali e lipu la mi kama musi ala la mi pini e pali

#

taso lipu ni li Ended ala, ona li ken On Break taso, anu seme?

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:52 AM

#

ken

#

"pause" anu seme

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:52 AM

#

lon... lon....

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:52 AM

#

mi la nimi Magi li ken ni tu

#

n

#

nasa

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 5:52 AM

#

mi kepeken mute e nimi ni la sona li kama

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 5:53 AM

#

sona o kama pona tawa sina

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 6:18 AM

#

a, mi sona sin e ni: tenpo pini la mi toki e Pause kepeken "pini lili"

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 6:26 AM

#

pini lili li pona

#

toki Gisi Gisi la nimi Magi li ken ala ken sama nimi Pause

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 6:28 AM

#

mi mama pi nimi Magi.. ni li ken tawa mi

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 6:29 AM

#

mama Magi,,,,

atomic halo Apr 24, 2024, 6:29 AM

#

mi mama Magi...

azure gulch Apr 24, 2024, 6:29 AM

#

atomic halo mi mama pi nimi Magi.. ni li ken tawa mi

lu m 👍

final frost Apr 24, 2024, 10:13 AM

#

penis balls - mi toki e ni

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:23 AM

#

i think i still prefer gisi over 'ulun for remembering

#

fascinating.

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:24 AM

#

i think the semantic extension of inner monologue -> remember is not extreme

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:24 AM

#

i was thinking more "gisi/sona ni li lon mi" but hm. "mi gisi e ni"

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:25 AM

#

what is remembering if not just your brain telling u something

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:25 AM

#

tbh....

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 2:25 AM

#

yeah

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:25 AM

#

then again i guess that logic can be extended to 'ulun

#

which puts 'ulun in a very weird spot in terms of semantic area

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:25 AM

#

'ulun leaning to the preception side makes it read much more like. in the moment kind of sona tawa mi

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:26 AM

#

'ulun/gisi/leme strikes again anu seme

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:26 AM

#

like if youre a mechanic you 'ulun machines because when you actually look at them you can analyze and notice all their components

#

unsure how exactly a mathematician can 'ulun math but i think it sounds right

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:27 AM

#

to be aware vs to be made aware anu seme

#

intentional vs unintentional is a very weird thing to think abt tbh

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:28 AM

#

nods nods

#

im not very sure what the distinction is in my head i guess it's another same word different subtext thing

#

calling a memory a gisi is like. its a thought that lingers in you, while calling it a 'ulun is like its just casually an integrated part of your worldview, or something ??!???

#

need to say the word remember in gisi gisi 10 times (0/10) and write down what i call it each time

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:31 AM

#

atomic halo like if youre a mechanic you 'ulun machines because when you actually look at th...

also i think i might be on my gay shit again with this so i need a third party to pin me down

#

do you think it's cool that when you know something youre more perceptive to it

#

there was that one person who like wrote down about all the flowers in their area

#

so when they see one it's like. more Prominent to them because they know it has a name that isn't just Flower

#

'ulun tying knowledge and perception together could be in that vein among others

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:32 AM

#

atomic halo so when they see one it's like. more Prominent to them because they know it has ...

this is very interesting

chilly urchin Apr 25, 2024, 2:32 AM

#

atomic halo do you think it's cool that when you know something youre more perceptive to it

yeah

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:32 AM

#

i think i do this too

#

maybe

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:32 AM

#

people can see the same thing and perceive it in different levels

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:32 AM

#

idk im not very aware of myself

#

but its very interesting

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:33 AM

#

tbhhh

#

but yeah btw i need to be restrained like a dog because if i start putting too many deep niche concepts in The Simple Language its over for me

#

or maybe theyre only deep and niche in relation to toki pona tbh... tbh...

#

like toki pona is also being like "a need is really a want if you think about it

chilly urchin Apr 25, 2024, 2:39 AM

#

i think theyre nice to talk about

#

this isnt toki pona

#

theyre useful

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:39 AM

#

i think its interesting to explore concepts

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:44 AM

#

how i look with exploring concepts in my bio

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:45 AM

#

twitter ai artist crypto bros be like

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:47 AM

#

TRUEEEE

#

perceive, sense, know, parse, feel, perception, awareness, perspective

#

heres the current 'ulun definition

#

adding perspective at the end to have another thing to ponder on

#

its just like how we say "sona mi la" for imo

#

going broader for funsies it might be worldview

#

like the way things exist subjectively to you?

#

probably not unmodified though

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:50 AM

#

atomic halo adding perspective at the end to have another thing to ponder on

i was just abt to say that

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:50 AM

#

spair

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:50 AM

#

it makes the 'ulun gisi leme three-way very interesting to consider

#

gisi 'uge
'ulun 'uge
leme 'uge

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:51 AM

#

'ulun 'uge si sigka'i ka sapa gisi - my worldview broadens from integrating speech

#

i learn more by reading or something

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:51 AM

#

azure gulch gisi 'uge 'ulun 'uge leme 'uge

lonnnn

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:51 AM

#

literal translation la
toki mi
sona mi
pilin mi

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:51 AM

#

nimi 'Ulun pes nimi Gisi pes nimi Leme si 'upune

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:52 AM

#

atomic halo 'ulun 'uge si sigka'i ka sapa gisi - my worldview broadens from integrating spee...

this is really nice

#

my perception increases by integrating thoughts

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:52 AM

#

tbhhh

#

do you want to change 'ulun to anything else by virtue of no more coda g btw

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:53 AM

#

compared to leme 'uge si sigka'i (ry
very interesting

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:53 AM

#

atomic halo do you want to change 'ulun to anything else by virtue of no more coda g btw

i might consider tbh

#

coda g was very important to me

#

'ulug has a very nice kick to it

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:54 AM

#

leme 'uge ka gisi nesku si sigka'i - my feelings about thing grow / i am increasingly touched by thing

#

oh yeah ka gisi about/regarding propaganda btw

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:56 AM

#

leme 'uge si sigka'i ka sapa gisi - "my feelings grow by integrating speech" -> i feel passionate/motivated/moved/inspired by reading/hearing/taking in this story/speech/talk/thought

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:56 AM

#

TRUEEEE

#

this happens to me when i read character analyses on tumblr dot com

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:56 AM

#

frfrrrr

#

me when i accidentally absorb myself too much in the novel and start crying

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 2:57 AM

#

atomic halo oh yeah ka gisi about/regarding propaganda btw

it makes sense tbhtbh

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 2:58 AM

#

tbhhhh

#

also what the fuck sapa/sagke dichotomy ??!?!?

#

ka sapa gisi - by integrating speech; ka sagke gisi - motivated/propelled by speech

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:01 AM

#

difference of "consuming/exhausting X" vs "with X as the driving force" anu seme

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:04 AM

#

possibly.. possibly

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:05 AM

#

azure gulch 'ulug has a very nice kick to it

french owe

#

actually theres not much ken in 'ulun anymore so french got bumped down a notch

#

imagine though.. savoir > sa'u im being a sucker for sibilants again

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:07 AM

#

i think if we're gonna coin anything new lets do m initial words

#

not a lot of m words i dont think

#

n too actually

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:08 AM

#

WE NEED MORE G WORDS

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:09 AM

#

wow we are seriously lacking in g words yeah okay im gonna go on a hunt

#

maybe i'll replace 'ulun

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:09 AM

#

give me like vietnamese or tagalog on the horn

#

they know what’s up with the nguh

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:10 AM

#

'ulun is from tagalog actually

#

maybe i should tagalog more

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:10 AM

#

ah I see

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:10 AM

#

WE DO NEED MORE G WORDS

#

vietnamese revolution

#

'ASKALIS NUNAKU SI KEPUS??!?!

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:13 AM

#

ona li weka ma e ona

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:13 AM

#

i dont think we have knowledge words with g onset

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:13 AM

#

‘a‘e ‘i si kipa sesli

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:13 AM

#

well we have suy nghĩ for thought but like. gisi sigi

#

object dropping...

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:14 AM

#

remote junco ona li weka ma e ona

wait i always thought that was 'weka kama'

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:14 AM

#

acceptable sentence: ‘i si

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:14 AM

#

wicked hedge wait i always thought that was 'weka kama'

I’m talking about -wekama

#

which is from weka ma

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:14 AM

#

remote junco I’m talking about -wekama

i'm aware

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:14 AM

#

are we still lacking a word for ike

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:15 AM

#

remote junco which is from weka ma

i always thought -wekama was the word wekama

#

my mind is blown

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:15 AM

#

azure gulch are we still lacking a word for ike

salin

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:15 AM

#

because like

#

when you -wekama

#

you wekama

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:15 AM

#

wicked hedge i always thought -wekama was the word wekama

don’t worry i did too

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:15 AM

#

you kama sin eventually

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:15 AM

#

the perils of nimisinning

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:15 AM

#

remote junco salin

right sorry i forgot

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:15 AM

#

nah you’re fine

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:15 AM

#

is it sa or salin or sampa or w

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:15 AM

#

it’s like four words on the doc

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:15 AM

#

cz i feel like we keep runninga rd these

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:15 AM

#

i like salin

#

buuut sampa is good for the mp

#

nah I’ll go ahead and greenlight sampa

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:17 AM

#

oh sampa real?

#

ok slay

#

how we feel about sapa/sampa minimal pair

#

sapa's hebrew etymology's latin(?) etymology means sponge btw fun fact

#

dropping some random vietnamese onset g words in case were ever in a shortage, uhhh

#

ngôn. also means speech oops not doing that one

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:23 AM

#

What is sapa

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:23 AM

#

ngắm - observe, ogle; nghỉ - rest; ngã - fall, trip, (intersection?? like ngã tư??);

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:23 AM

#

ga for gravity

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:23 AM

#

i think the weird form of ngã is from han, might mean like road (physical)

#

yeah..

#

also sapa is the moku word i put in the playground

#

eat, drink, consume; absorb, assimilate, integrate, infuse, take

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 3:24 AM

#

ohhh

#

real

#

okay no sampa is salin again then

#

sorry for being wishy-washy

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:24 AM

#

no prob! i dont fault you it is in the playground and also ive only given it an etym and started using it like, yesterda

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:26 AM

#

im looking for thai words beginning in ng and so far half the words mean stupid or sleepy

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:26 AM

#

REALLY GOOD

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:26 AM

#

does gisi gisi already have a word for low-energy states

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:27 AM

#

also crazy coincidence considering ngu (stupid) and ngủ (sleep) and nghỉ (rest)

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:27 AM

#

somewhat like tuki tiki's lapi (formerly liti)

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:27 AM

#

magi - white, gray, plain, muted, faint, weak, inactive, dormant, static, pause

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:27 AM

#

atomic halo also crazy coincidence considering ngu (stupid) and ngủ (sleep) and nghỉ (rest)

could be an ideophonic thing or whatever you call it

#

the thing korean has

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:27 AM

#

ideophonic yeah

#

ng is a very sleepy sound

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:27 AM

#

definitely

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:27 AM

#

true..

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:28 AM

#

we have a g in magi too so

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:28 AM

#

ngăn - stop, arrange, tidy, compartment (in a closet and such)

#

WE DOOO

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:29 AM

#

wicked hedge does gisi gisi already have a word for low-energy states

..?

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:29 AM

#

atomic halo > magi - white, gray, plain, muted, faint, weak, inactive, dormant, static, paus...

ni

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:29 AM

#

atomic halo > magi - white, gray, plain, muted, faint, weak, inactive, dormant, static, paus...

a i didn't see this

#

cool

#

is this the way to talk about sleepiness

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:29 AM

#

honestly the only thai word i cld find that someone meets what 'ulun needs is ngai

Wiktionary

ไง

#

ga'i???? idk

#

ge'i maybe

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:29 AM

#

wicked hedge is this the way to talk about sleepiness

could be! sleep is a state of dormancy especially when youre talking to people online

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:29 AM

#

gei....

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:30 AM

#

what about like

#

coldness

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:30 AM

#

ngại - embarrassed, shy

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:30 AM

#

how is that talked about

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:30 AM

#

coldness we dont have anything yet g

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:30 AM

#

could one theoretically use magi to talk about coldness? idk just a thought i'm stealing from ka Tumu

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:30 AM

#

pukis - amphibian, reptile, fish, cold-blooded, creature with rough or smooth/slimy skin
ka nesku pukis anu seme a a a

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:31 AM

#

or if a lete-type word were to come to exist, could that be used for sleepiness?

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:31 AM

#

ngói - roof; ngôi - structure, building, elevation/level

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:31 AM

#

wicked hedge or if a lete-type word were to come to exist, could that be used for sleepiness?

bee get sleepy when its cold

#

no further input ijust immediately think of that when i hear lete/lape linker

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:32 AM

#

a a

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:34 AM

#

woah

Wiktionary

ꦔꦺꦭꦶꦁꦔꦶ

#

geligi

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:35 AM

#

a little bit of the javanese... korea desu ne

#

thats so real actually.. geligi

#

3 syllable jumpscare

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:35 AM

#

god the u for sona is so tantalising tho

#

anything but u doesnt sound right for a sona word

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:36 AM

#

clearly we need the stupid word etyomology for sona

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:36 AM

#

CLEARLy

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:37 AM

#

it hurts that it hits both our marks too

#

gu - onset g and vowel u

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:38 AM

#

one more to the vulgarities(?) etym list group?!?!?!??!?!?

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:38 AM

#

a a a

#

ngáo - stupid, high (on drugs)

#

ge'u

#

lữ from han means friend btw really funny

#

finally.. the jan pona

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:40 AM

#

jan pona !!

#

im so attached to 'ulun actually idk

#

gulun?

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:41 AM

#

i think we gotta leave the g onset dreams for another day its so hard to find words for knowledge specifically- gulun..

#

im not sure what the scot gaelic etym is about though is the thing

#

Scottish Gaelic - giùlan "behavior"
like why behavior/manner/conduct/transport...

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:41 AM

#

i came across it first before the tagalog etym

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:42 AM

#

atomic halo im not sure what the scot gaelic etym is about though is the thing

neither do i

#

i remember tying it back to 態 which means something similar

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:42 AM

#

did it just to feel something

#

từ điển hán nôm save me

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:42 AM

#

thái

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:42 AM

#

ohhh, thái!

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:43 AM

#

thái độ

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:43 AM

#

state/manner

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:43 AM

#

yeah

#

do we make the [suli] word g onset ???????

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:44 AM

#

good question....

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:44 AM

#

ideophonic la g is really interesting

#

for size

#

anuu seme

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:44 AM

#

@lucid bay were talking about your baka word are you free to chat

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 3:44 AM

#

wahuwhuw

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:44 AM

#

they are no view rn

#

oh

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 3:44 AM

#

ya im here haiiiiii

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:44 AM

#

i read wrong

#

Hi

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:44 AM

#

thats another one yeah

#

'askalis jumpscare

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:44 AM

#

askalis jumpscaree

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:44 AM

#

different 'askalis!

#

or yea

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:45 AM

#

they are here (they are here)

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 3:45 AM

#

'askalis si paka

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:45 AM

#

'askalis si BAKA!!

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 3:45 AM

#

rahhhhhhhhhh 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:45 AM

#

i dont think theres ng- words for measurement its up to you now kisi

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 3:46 AM

#

i stil havent gotten around to learning most of gisi gisi i mgiht nto have much to contribute to le discussion iam sory in advance

#

rwefhjbwj

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:46 AM

#

nods nods

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:46 AM

#

lucid bay i stil havent gotten around to learning most of gisi gisi i mgiht nto have much ...

mi sama i'm mostly here for the language discussion and the fun people a a a

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:46 AM

#

were just finding etym for your word and im wondering if you want to like.. alasa with us....? 🥺

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 3:46 AM

#

ican kind of read things with da sheet at the ready doe smirk

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:46 AM

#

wicked hedge mi sama i'm mostly here for the language discussion and the fun people a a a

diversity win were the fun people !!

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:47 AM

#

same tbh im still gettin kinda used to gisi giis

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 3:47 AM

#

🥺 mi alasa

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:47 AM

#

its fun tho

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:47 AM

#

(language discussion of course includes the random times in which this becomes the spanish channel)

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:47 AM

#

a a a

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 3:47 AM

#

ive not looked for etymology before hwo have you previously gone about thta

#

wafhwa

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:47 AM

#

no 💔

#

probably shouldve pung you later on when we have Something tbh

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:47 AM

#

i honest to god just open wiktionary and look up a bunch of related words

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:48 AM

#

TRUEEE wiktionary my beloved

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:48 AM

#

at some point i just started clicking random page to get some inspo

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 3:48 AM

#

true . .. rrurur

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:48 AM

#

i go on like. indifferentlanguages.com? or google translate and then fact check on wiktionary and then fact check by googling [language] dictionary

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:49 AM

#

azure gulch at some point i just started clicking random page to get some inspo

thats so based i gotta start doing that

#

gun < Trashtalk LN'OM "big"

#

pukis ka'i who gets etymology from glosbe and niche video game conlang

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:51 AM

#

fucking i keep lookinhg through viet words and thinking "wow this sounds strangely like [chinese word]" and i check it and it is exactly like [chinese word]

#

like "woah thats Ngân Hà that sounds like 銀河" and it is 銀河 it will never escape me

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:54 AM

#

sino-xenic vocabulary!

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:55 AM

#

real!

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:55 AM

#

pipi kewapi once said something in mandarin

#

and i was like "huh that says shin'nen"

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:55 AM

#

azure gulch fucking i keep lookinhg through viet words and thinking "wow this sounds strange...

REALLY GOOD

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 3:55 AM

#

it's like "wait a sec that's the chinese though!"

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:55 AM

#

han to han communication

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:56 AM

#

:gisigkai: ganse - the size word (<- Viet ngắn "short" and dài "long", calque of Chinese 長短 "size, dimension")

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:56 AM

#

TRUE

#

A A A

#

assimilation into ganse though

#

still good

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:56 AM

#

oh yeah

#

ganse

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:57 AM

#

i love combining the viet words for short and long because that really is just how we do things about here

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:57 AM

#

the chinese words for size are literally just two opposites of each other

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:57 AM

#

nó to nhỏ thế nào? - what size is it (lit. its big/small like how)

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:57 AM

#

i say words because there are multiple

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:57 AM

#

good lord

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 3:58 AM

#

大小 - big and small
長短 - long and short
尺寸 - foot and inch

all these mean size

#

it really is just how it works

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 3:58 AM

#

foot and inch...

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 4:00 AM

#

chinese measurement system is wack despair

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 4:04 AM

#

azure gulch :gisigkai: **ganse** - the size word (<- Viet *ngắn* "short" and *dài* "long", c...

'pukis 'ispi si ka ganse menu - this reptile is of a measurable dimension similar to a human being

#

anu seme

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 4:08 AM

#

ante la this reptile is measured in humans

#

a a

#

im personally into the ganse ka nesku menu construction

#

its sized similarly to/exemplified by humans

wispy tendonBOT Apr 25, 2024, 4:09 AM

#

meeeee ...

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 4:09 AM

#

sinaaaaaa

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 4:10 AM

#

actually yeah menu gisi what is up with hot/cold

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 4:10 AM

#

ganse ka kanesu - sized beyond - bigger than
ganse ka lu 'ispi - sized to the benefit of this - sufficiently big for this

remote junco Apr 25, 2024, 4:11 AM

#

azure gulch :gisigkai: **ganse** - the size word (<- Viet *ngắn* "short" and *dài* "long", c...

goose

#

ka sigka‘i ganse ≈ larger

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 4:14 AM

#

lon...

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 4:15 AM

#

atomic halo im personally into the ganse ka nesku menu construction

mmm yeah sense

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 4:16 AM

#

atomic halo ganse ka kanesu - sized beyond - bigger than ganse ka lu 'ispi - sized to the be...

these might've warmed me up to ganse a bit more i think

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 4:16 AM

#

remote junco actually yeah menu gisi what is up with hot/cold

i was thinking right if we had words that describe things that are hot or cold we can use ganse for that too

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 4:16 AM

#

appropriately sized instead of appropriately big May not be a big deal of a distinction to make

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 4:17 AM

#

azure gulch i was thinking right if we had words that describe things that are hot or cold w...

yeah the ganse propaganda spreads far a a

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 4:17 AM

#

ganse is a measurable dimension or amount

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 4:17 AM

#

kisi kickstarts the year of sili playground

#

weve been so productive about it lately

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 4:18 AM

#

_ _

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 4:18 AM

#

atomic halo kisi kickstarts the year of sili playground

expert idea thrower
motto Fake it till you make it

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 4:18 AM

#

ganse does interact fascinatingly with every other antonymic pair

#

lu - goodness
ganse lu - measure/amount of goodness? what's the distinction and is it swag or unswag to have this distinction

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 4:19 AM

#

it is the quality of good vs extent of good

#

many things can be good but not all good things may be equally as good

chilly urchin Apr 25, 2024, 4:20 AM

#

what da hell is ganse

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 4:20 AM

#

ganse for comparisons??

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 4:20 AM

#

azure gulch :gisigkai: **ganse** - the size word (<- Viet *ngắn* "short" and *dài* "long", c...

meow

#

experimenting rn

chilly urchin Apr 25, 2024, 4:20 AM

#

oiki

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 4:23 AM

#

also @whoever is in charge of the sheet salin is ka las'e namako Kolisin

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 4:25 AM

#

were all in charge of the sheet... the human sheet...

#

(me kolisin and nunaku i like forgot the sheet isn't free edit access

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 4:29 AM

#

safer that way tbh

#

sheets does have that uhhh revert thing but its pretty wonk so

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:16 AM

#

letter count statistics btw

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 6:16 AM

#

;;;; ;; 4 g

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 6:16 AM

#

g so underused!

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:16 AM

#

we need more fuckin gs

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 6:16 AM

#

we ont have enough dam g

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:16 AM

#

4g turning me autistic

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 6:16 AM

#

4g turning me 'askalis

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:16 AM

#

TRUEEE

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:16 AM

#

lack of m lack of g we need more magi type words fr

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:17 AM

#

WE DOOO

#

nasal neglect

#

i could also add stats for the consonants as onsets specifically

#

well not onsets like. start of word?

#

you could also just do that by Looking At the dictionary tohugh probably

#

sapa is preposterous for using the top consonant and the top vowel twice

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:19 AM

#

do we replace sapa

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:19 AM

#

g is also a pretty eat-y sound we might.

#

ngấu nghiến - gobble up

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 6:19 AM

#

gom

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:19 AM

#

gugin that sounds so funny

#

gugin gugin gugin

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 6:19 AM

#

gugin . .. 🥺

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:20 AM

#

is it also mildly hard to pronounce or is that just me

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:20 AM

#

gugin is so suwi ngl

#

tbhhh yea

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 6:20 AM

#

it is a litle hard to pronounce g[v]g

#

fwejhbgfh

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:20 AM

#

gunin/gumin

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 6:20 AM

#

gu is also liek

#

a hard sound

#

itrhinks

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:21 AM

#

ga'u

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:21 AM

#

ga'u.. so true

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:21 AM

#

maybe tie back to ngấu????

#

canto 咬 bite

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:21 AM

#

that ấ is a schwa btw

#

hows that rpnounced

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:21 AM

#

ngaau or sumn idk my canto is bad

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:22 AM

#

atomic halo that ấ is a schwa btw

ge'u????

#

mayb

#

????

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:22 AM

#

azure gulch ngaau or sumn idk my canto is bad

me when im spanish and cant trill the r

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:22 AM

#

azure gulch ge'u????

ooh that sounds further i guess ga'u will have to do

#

really funny though because gấu means bear and also informally girlfriend

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:23 AM

#

do we win

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:23 AM

#

do we... 🥺

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:23 AM

#

hold up why is the picture on gấu so suwi

chilly urchin Apr 25, 2024, 6:23 AM

#

damn i wekama'd for 2 hours and yall started talking about it as soon as I was back

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:23 AM

#

oko

Wiktionary

gấu

#

th em

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:23 AM

#

LONNNN

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 6:23 AM

#

tokiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 🥺

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 6:24 AM

#

azure gulch [oko](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/g%E1%BA%A5u)

thisis wat i am like

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:24 AM

#

chilly urchin damn i wekama'd for 2 hours and yall started talking about it as soon as I was b...

were all in uniform at the gisi gisi roundtable staring at you

#

hm.. what about gu'in

#

rolls off the tongue a bit dubious let me put it in a sentence

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 6:25 AM

#

im tleling yuooo gu is an evil sound :! !!!

#

thisis liek if wuwojiti was gisi gisi

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:25 AM

#

'uge 'i kusi kemu si gu'in
'ulun menu si sigka'i ka gu'in gisi

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:25 AM

#

lucid bay thisis liek if wuwojiti was gisi gisi

a a a

#

ngủ be upon ye

lucid bay Apr 25, 2024, 6:26 AM

#

rwauurrrrrrrrrrrrr despair

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:26 AM

#

'uge 'i kusi kemu si ga'u
'ulun menu si sigka'i ka ga'u gisi

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:26 AM

#

gami

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:26 AM

#

gami is an anagram of magi really funny

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:26 AM

#

oh no minimal pair Y?

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:27 AM

#

nah i just think its funny that were like "we need more magi words" and then we just make magi 2

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:27 AM

#

magi 2 !!!

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:27 AM

#

what is gami from doe..

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:27 AM

#

okay fuckin now i wanna use mugu

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:27 AM

#

atomic halo what is gami from doe..

yummy :)

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:27 AM

#

wait true.

#

we steal from toki pona striaght up

#

mugu mugu mugu

#

m and g are really eat-ey sounds i concur

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:28 AM

#

so true

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:28 AM

#

ngoạm - to chomp; ngậm - to hold in your mouth

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:29 AM

#

are we lacking in l

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:29 AM

#

ngậm especially its like sometimes theres rocks that contain water in their structure and in chemistry class we called them "ngậm nước" and that was really evocative to me

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:29 AM

#

gulu what think

#

actually no

#

gulu is more drink coded than eat

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:30 AM

#

hows gamu

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:30 AM

#

gamu,,,

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:30 AM

#

i kind of like that ngậm is a primarily mouth action but having the water embedded Into the structure also counts

#

its moku/integration merger

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:31 AM

#

yea its a good merger

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:31 AM

#

who is she

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:31 AM

#

thats cursed as fuck

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:32 AM

#

HAHA

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:32 AM

#

阿吟 sounds like a buddhist term ngl

#

吟 means uhhhhh idk how to describe

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:32 AM

#

what does it translate to

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:32 AM

#

its like

#

sing

#

ish

#

but for poetry ish

#

in cantonese it means to grumble

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:32 AM

#

tu dien han nom save me

#

i should memorize the url

chilly urchin Apr 25, 2024, 6:33 AM

#

atomic halo hm.. what about gu'in

gooey

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:33 AM

#

recute

#

recite

#

tahts the word

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:33 AM

#

ngâm... ngâm nga

#

its kind of a sili

#

ngâm also means to like. dip/sink in viet

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:33 AM

#

azure gulch 阿吟 sounds like a buddhist term ngl

阿 afaik is just like toki pona a

#

kinda

#

u use it in like

#

transcriptions and stuff

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:34 AM

#

#

a tòng 😭

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:34 AM

#

oh yeah i guess it also means like

#

mountain or sumn

#

different pronunciation tho no one cares

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:35 AM

#

chilly urchin gooey

gooey,,,

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:35 AM

#

gooey? like the duck?

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:35 AM

#

gisi gisi ko anu seme

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:35 AM

#

lon...

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:35 AM

#

actually gu- sounds cute for a ko equivalent tbh

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:36 AM

#

should i go change the paka definition to say fluids and not gas or should i do that some other time

#

i could make a playground entry thats another option

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:36 AM

#

i thought still experimenting

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:36 AM

#

yeah...

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:38 AM

#

honestly leaning towards gamu

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:38 AM

#

gamu victory

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:39 AM

#

(ŋ/ɳ)am seems to be very popular in asian langs

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:39 AM

#

we could be the key to m/g renaissance

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:39 AM

#

or not idk

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:39 AM

#

atomic halo we could be the key to m/g renaissance

so true,,

#

the re-nasal-nce

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 6:39 AM

#

TBHH

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:40 AM

#

(/no

chilly urchin Apr 25, 2024, 6:40 AM

#

azure gulch (ŋ/ɳ)am seems to be very popular in asian langs

asiabn languages when the tailed n

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:41 AM

#

we just love making our Ns funny

#

wait did i use retroflex n

#

whoops

chilly urchin Apr 25, 2024, 6:41 AM

#

fuckkkkkkkkk

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 6:41 AM

#

ɲ thats what i meant

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:00 AM

#

added another bit

#

doing some looney tunes shit with this formula btw

#

s should i change the chinese etym to say cantonese for homogeneity

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 7:08 AM

#

is it from cantonese?

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:08 AM

#

it is [squints] chinese

#

and appears in both cantonese and mandarin? i think?

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 7:10 AM

#

yes but which one is the etymon

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:10 AM

#

tucks my hair behind my back shyly

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 7:11 AM

#

yes but

#

the gisi gisi word

#

is from which pronunciation

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:12 AM

#

ohhh uhm. well funny thing i only know about the word because its imported from the chinese colonization

#

i think its closer to mandarin?

#

though its like [a, ɔː] -> /e/

#

so it doesnt really matter much whether its mandarin or cantonese

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 7:15 AM

#

well

#

where's the /e/ from

#

vietnamese?

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:16 AM

#

mostly because i wanted to shave off the abundance of /a/'s though yeah it is closer to the vietnamese pronunciation

chilly urchin Apr 25, 2024, 7:17 AM

#

So ê is e

#

right

#

or other way around

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:17 AM

#

ê is [e], e is [the opener one thats like a three]

#

x[E]

strong tartanBOT Apr 25, 2024, 7:17 AM

#

atomic halo x[E]

[ɛ]

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:17 AM

#

her

chilly urchin Apr 25, 2024, 7:17 AM

#

ywah ok

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:17 AM

#

lãng mạn - open front a

chilly urchin Apr 25, 2024, 7:17 AM

#

Long man ?!

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:18 AM

#

thats the more cantonese'ish one i think

#

so i believe my options now are either lama/luma or write the etym in as viet?

#

third option just keep it like that because the /e/ification wasnt like. Deliberately vietification

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 7:26 AM

#

atomic halo s should i change the chinese etym to say cantonese for homogeneity

which one

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:26 AM

#

leme

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 7:26 AM

#

leme is defo not cantonese

#

theres an o in there

#

(the etym)

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:27 AM

#

its either langman or longman i turned it into an /e/ because it sounds nicerrrr despair

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 7:27 AM

#

the discussion above said vietnamese maybe vietnamese?

#

is it closer in shanghainese lmao wait i wanna check now

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:27 AM

#

vietnamese is defo more /e/ because its a fronter a

#

but i didnt do it on purposeeeee despair

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 7:28 AM

#

okay shanghainese is much closer to leme

#

i knew it wld be fucked up like that lmao

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:28 AM

#

worlds first shanghainese etymology a a

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 7:28 AM

#

azure gulch okay shanghainese is much closer to leme

its like. lame (gisi gisi pronunciation)

#

the a is nasalised

#

french style

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:29 AM

#

its like. lame 🙄

#

WHY IS IT NASALIZED ??!

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 7:29 AM

#

lɑ̃ me

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 7:29 AM

#

atomic halo WHY IS IT NASALIZED ??!

the real question should be where the fuck did the n in 漫 go

#

cuz in all other dialects its like

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:29 AM

#

thats so scary

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 7:30 AM

#

l()ng m()n

#

except shanghainese

#

its lan me

#

where is the n

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:30 AM

#

really funny

#

kisi what should i do about it 🥺

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 7:31 AM

#

maybe put it as viet etym idk

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:32 AM

#

viet etym makes me feel weird a a its like im adding guru and crediting it as english

#

in a like "is it cringe to do that" way

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 7:32 AM

#

ooc tmi when typing i wasnt paying attention and i accidetally copied this and almost sent it

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:32 AM

#

TRUE

wicked hedge Apr 25, 2024, 7:33 AM

#

atomic halo its like. lame 🙄

yep words can't walk

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:33 AM

#

lon...

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 7:33 AM

#

atomic halo viet etym makes me feel weird a a its like im adding guru and crediting it as en...

if irs closer pronunciation no problem

#

浪漫 in its modern sense is a japanese coinage anyways no one care

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:33 AM

#

lon..

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 7:34 AM

#

azure gulch 浪漫 in its modern sense is a japanese coinage anyways no one care

1 of the top 10 chinese words that appear in "top 10 chinese words you didnt know come from japanese" fr

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:35 AM

#

updated

#

also figured out how to order the counts descending instead of ascending mi wawa

chilly urchin Apr 25, 2024, 7:36 AM

#

Tagagog

azure gulch Apr 25, 2024, 7:36 AM

#

so wawa

#

on wawa do we have a wrd for wawa

#

does sagke fit that bill

atomic halo Apr 25, 2024, 7:36 AM

#

it could tbhh

#

'uge si 'ulun lu

#gisi gisi — toki kili pi toki pona tan namako Kolisin