#gisi gisi — toki kili pi toki pona tan namako Kolisin

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azure gulch
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When used by itself as an exclamation, /kaː/ (mood adverb) is frequently pronounced as [tʃæː] or [sæː].[48][49]
lon lipu Wikipesija

wicked hedge
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a

azure gulch
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both listed sources are from the 1970~1980s tho

wicked hedge
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i know there is k~t variation as well

azure gulch
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so idk how accurate it is now

wicked hedge
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barely anyone speaks hawaiian anymore

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ok that's not true

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but most learn it alongside or after english

azure gulch
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true

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most recent listed source is frm 2018

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i think its the one ur reading maybe

wicked hedge
wicked hedge
azure gulch
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yes

atomic halo
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:gisigkai: na'u

wicked hedge
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yea

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gisigkai is that nimisin

atomic halo
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also sometimes gisi pagkan but i love gisigkai because i made it myself

azure gulch
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na'u sama alasa ????

atomic halo
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ken 😈

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good lord do we have plans for preverbs or any approximation of them

azure gulch
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m- particle,,,,

atomic halo
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thats true. m particle

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just like in trashtalk

azure gulch
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what preverb marking is in toki bona

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holon

atomic halo
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toki holon

azure gulch
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theres ja and ta

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both are placed after the preverb

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ma - preverb particle (<- Malay meN- (transitive verb prefix))

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gggg????

wicked hedge
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ta is a lot more used

azure gulch
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nn yea i think ive seen discussion abt it b4

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was it frm nano idr

wicked hedge
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it's also from the nasa renaissance, which spawned a similar language to gisi gisi (nemune)

azure gulch
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hvnt seen ja b4

atomic halo
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Malay m-m-men?! 😳

wicked hedge
azure gulch
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icic

azure gulch
atomic halo
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FUICK

wicked hedge
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tbh namako Kolisin is like the ilo Powa of 2024

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except less nimi sin

azure gulch
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mmm

atomic halo
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looks up ilo Powa cutely

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i dont get it oomfs whats the ilo Powa tea

azure gulch
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oo they are lawa of tomo suwi

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prolific coiner of nimisin

wicked hedge
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yes

wicked hedge
azure gulch
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sona pona

The nasa renaissance is a highly experimental and nonstandard style of Toki Pona, developed by ilo Powa over several months of absence from the ma lili and ma kule communities, and published to ma pona pi toki pona in July 2023.

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this is cool

wicked hedge
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yes it made that

atomic halo
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the nasaissance

wicked hedge
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nasa renaissance is where ta came from

atomic halo
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three color system is so fucked

wicked hedge
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next message too

azure gulch
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ohhh nemune

atomic halo
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kolisin did mention looking into nemune and i think liking it

wicked hedge
azure gulch
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i remmebr this when talking to nano abt kose kata

atomic halo
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dont ever put me in a situation

wicked hedge
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yes teki came out of the nasa renaissance

remote junco
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I’m flattened

atomic halo
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^ supa

remote junco
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also yeah nasa renaissance begat nemune

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without the renaissance, nemune would not exist

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and the nasa renaissance essentially concluded with nemune

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personally I think it’s important to mention them in tandem

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as for the pinning then I think ilo Supanpo can do it thank you ijo Osuka for reminding me it exists

opal basinBOT
remote junco
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[[User:CosmicPython/gisi gisi]]

atomic halo
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YOOOO

remote junco
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[[User:CosmicPython/gisi gisi]]

opal basinBOT
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sona pona

gisi gisi (meaning "language of expression" or "very communicative") is a tokiponido first created by namako Kolisin in March 2024, but later contributors also developed the language alongside her, such as jan Kali and soweli Noneko. The language was not made with a specific goal in mind, but namako Kolisin wanted to explore toki pona with diffe...

remote junco
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there :3

atomic halo
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kusi Sanpu 'i gisi si 'ispi

remote junco
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mi sama ilo Powa la yeah I never did make many nimi sin, which is probably our biggest difference

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I only have like what, 3?

azure gulch
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kepa is so cool

remote junco
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:D !

azure gulch
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time after time im brainstorming my mahjong translation

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i think man. kepa wld be perfect

atomic halo
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winning the words war

remote junco
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:o

atomic halo
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kisi when the sequences game has sequences

balmy solstice
remote junco
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lmao

azure gulch
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maybe i should stop using musi Mason to refer to mahjong

azure gulch
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when aAANUSEMEmailMahjong is right there

azure gulch
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poker translation soon

atomic halo
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WOO

remote junco
azure gulch
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might even fuck around and do a custom game from some korean tv show

atomic halo
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good lord mukaski kanesu si sili s

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'uge si magi

azure gulch
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kemu si magi [pona]

atomic halo
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m.........

azure gulch
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starting to unironicify my lu - pona proposal

remote junco
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we do need good/bad words

atomic halo
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im in my pajamas holding my candle going off to bed so i will not be in the lu discussion have a good one though

remote junco
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which we’ve been decided should just kind of devoid of any other metaphors present

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perhaps this means our good would not have “simple”, thoughts?

azure gulch
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i think good

remote junco
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it’s important to remember that pona does apparently have a meaning of simple

atomic halo
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omygd wait kisi i realized ive bee reading your proposal wrong the entire time

remote junco
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some people have tried to reflect this in an alt meaning of ike as complex

atomic halo
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i thought you meant "lu as good or bad" as in its literally intentionally ambiguous whether it means good or bad

azure gulch
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i did mean that

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it was meant to musi after all

atomic halo
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oh okay ive been reading your proposal right the entire time

azure gulch
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but now im leaning more towards lu for pona

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no ike

remote junco
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lu is meso real?

atomic halo
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LONNNN

azure gulch
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mmm

atomic halo
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were scrambling around shitting and crying due to no pona/ike and then kisi descends from the sky like a bird of prey and drops a putrid glop of meso on the ground

azure gulch
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im j kinda wawa like that ykyk

atomic halo
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tbhh tbhh

azure gulch
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i feel like nimi good la we shld defo merge the meaning for "like" in

remote junco
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lu as a nod to the nimi sin particle lo/lu being the major kickstarter of gisi gisi development

azure gulch
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woah not my intention but thats v gd

remote junco
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and becoming the inspiration for ka’s existence

atomic halo
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OH TRUE

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that's kinda swagful i want lu too now

remote junco
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gisi lu

atomic halo
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las'e lu

azure gulch
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gisi lu,,,

remote junco
atomic halo
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TBHH

remote junco
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funnily enough lo was originally going to be lu but it was changed because of the reserved sonja word

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even funnier is that it comes from alu

azure gulch
# remote junco gisi lu

honestly this is so musi 2me bcz my initial idea was lu tan 屌 toki Kanton which is still a swear word and by very little means positive

remote junco
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lmaooo

remote junco
# remote junco even funnier is that it comes from alu

iirc kala pona Tonyu and others were joking around how prepositions are just like context and that la/alu could sort of replace them being “prepositional” and then someone suggested lu for this purpose to the delight of the others

azure gulch
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wawa,,

balmy solstice
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what if the word for good comes from a word that means bad from another language, that'd be pretty funny i think

remote junco
remote junco
azure gulch
balmy solstice
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fuck yeah

azure gulch
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it has only one positive meaning and it is equivalent to "shit" in "That's the shit right here"

remote junco
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that’s the penis right here guys

azure gulch
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yall are so penis rn

remote junco
azure gulch
atomic halo
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REALLY GOOD

atomic halo
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nesku lu - fucking thing

azure gulch
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ka gisi pukis Ka'i you may find this word familiar in the form of đụ and đéo

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both are from 屌

atomic halo
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OH SHIT FOR REAL

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@chilly urchin đéo mention

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also tldr she actually came from something

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well i do know đụ and địt are related and địt means fuck

azure gulch
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gisi lu - penis language,,,

atomic halo
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PENIS LANGUAGE !!!

azure gulch
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we might be winning guys

atomic halo
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we should give lu | ALT. penis and have another marital relations fiasco

azure gulch
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REAL

atomic halo
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we dont have any positive use of the words mentioned btw which is really funny

azure gulch
atomic halo
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in fact it's extra negative in the sense that đéo is used in place of không to grammatically negate things

azure gulch
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related to đít anu seme

atomic halo
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possiblt.. possibly

azure gulch
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we are going to flip the script

atomic halo
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your mind.

wicked hedge
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i thought it was from lon

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tuki tiki logic

azure gulch
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alu mom

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ent

balmy solstice
remote junco
remote junco
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I’m talking about the earlier stage of toki pona’s lo

chilly urchin
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Hi

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What is the developm,ents I dont think I have the energy in me today to read a lot I am so moli

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magi magi

azure gulch
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some tokiponido talks and also lu

chilly urchin
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a wawa

azure gulch
chilly urchin
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oh right

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ah nods

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đéo mention

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we were talking abt it last night

azure gulch
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its a cool word

chilly urchin
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it's a cool word......

wicked hedge
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i assumed it was the same for lu, the prep marking particle

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which is now lo

atomic halo
atomic halo
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okay i got my daily routines out and added lu to the sheet

remote junco
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:D

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now we need our EVIL

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mini — bad

atomic halo
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TRYEE

chilly urchin
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god

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:graggh

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oh right external emoji

atomic halo
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hola nunaku

chilly urchin
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Hola Ka'i

atomic halo
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do you still need any recaps

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recap be like gisi 'ispi tbh

chilly urchin
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I think I'll go back and read them eventually but I'd like 2 know like ig the main of it?? I know "lu" was added and that's kinda it

atomic halo
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okay so yeah

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pispis added

chilly urchin
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Whats that

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pointing

balmy solstice
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me when i want to call over my cats

atomic halo
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it's a lot like lon (existing , true, real) and one of its distinguishing features from lon is that it also contains things like serious and important

chilly urchin
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Hmmmmmmmmm

atomic halo
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and i was trying to like figure out the thread in that

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and spewed out like

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what if pispis is more Physicality centric

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and so the serious/important aspect of it is more like

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concrete, tangible, pragmatic, practical

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and then we were like no way kon/sijelo antonymic pairs in gisi gisi

chilly urchin
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hmmmmm interestint yes

atomic halo
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(with 'alapa/pispid

chilly urchin
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So it's like

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kusi core

atomic halo
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nods sagely

chilly urchin
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well no

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kusi can be abstract

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well yes iut's kusi core but

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u know

atomic halo
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it has some kusi parts of it but other things can share the pispis

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most obviously a gisi pispis means saying something true, genuine, credible, certified?

chilly urchin
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

atomic halo
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kolisin also shared some of her takes on the serious meaning

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  1. that she thinks its neat that it makes saying something Matters and Means A Lot is easier
  2. that she loves using /musi to drop truth with smiles or something like that, so pispis would likely not be like. exempt from sillyness even if it carries the more physical meaning
chilly urchin
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I think my mind is trying to unify this in the aspect of like

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It being physical ??

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Like that feels like it is slightly strange to include and I think that's why I am like hrrmmm so much

atomic halo
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shifting it to be more explicitly physical would democratize the word True which im rooting for

chilly urchin
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And also the considerations of something "existing" being conflated with important ?

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I need to rotate this in my bmind more

azure gulch
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truthful -> genuine -> existent
-> correct
-> serious -> prudent(?)

atomic halo
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existing might be a wrong word yeah existent is more It

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real, honest, truthful; correct, right; serious, important; genuine, existent
here's how it is on the sheet rn

chilly urchin
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nods

atomic halo
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ive also mentioned that i thought of physicality because like

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the etymology for it and the viet equivalent of that reads in my mind as like. the "down to earth" variety of true and existent

chilly urchin
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Ah nods

atomic halo
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it can be a grand philosophical truth but it can also sometimes be like. antonymic to abstract/vague

azure gulch
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right it could also mean concrete in that sensr

atomic halo
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tbhh were working out the kinks of the concrete side a bit though on account of we have 'ispi

remote junco
atomic halo
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getting a bad grade at secretary

remote junco
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I want a word for something like, caring for something

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maybe perchance possibly

atomic halo
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the people crave olin

remote junco
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olin but cooler

lucid bay
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at thte combination olin and awen

atomic halo
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ive also used olin to mean general social compassion a few times

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TBHH

remote junco
chilly urchin
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Dats like a guy

lucid bay
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owen 🥺

atomic halo
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TRUE

remote junco
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alin

lucid bay
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dats like a guy 🥺

azure gulch
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owen,,

lucid bay
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alen is also liek a guy

chilly urchin
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Anyway I think the word for pipi is going to be something related 2 clams

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I have a list of Good words here

atomic halo
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CLAM !

remote junco
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loving it

chilly urchin
remote junco
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it should be the word for geoduck tbh

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lemme pull it

atomic halo
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isn't it pronounce really weird like goyduck

remote junco
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ah right lushootseed gʷídəq

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that’s the word I was looking for

chilly urchin
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I think the funniest thing aboutthis is that theres that one species fo clam called "pipi"

remote junco
atomic halo
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how i look with gooeyduck in my bio

remote junco
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funnily enough iirc lushootseed has the glottal stop

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lushootseed is a native language of western Washington State, right in the area where I live

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[[w:Lushootseed#Vocabulary]]

opal basinBOT
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Lushootseed, formerly known as Puget Salish, Puget Sound Salish, or Skagit-Nisqually, is a Central Coast Salish language of the Salishan language family. Lushootseed is the general name for the dialect continuum composed of two main dialects, Northern Lushootseed and Southern Lushootseed, which are further separated into smaller sub-dialects.

L...

remote junco
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I like how the embed just ends with L…

atomic halo
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TRUE

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L + ratio tbh

azure gulch
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unrelated but lu for "like, enjoy"

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thoughts

atomic halo
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but nesku 'i 'uge si leme lu 🥺

remote junco
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leme lu is good yeah

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it pleases me

azure gulch
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nnnn

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yea

remote junco
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gisi gisi ‘i ‘uge si leme lu ≈ gisi gisi pleases me ≈ I like gisi gisi

chilly urchin
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Yeah I think that I'd like if "lu" and [ike] stay as abstractly "good" + "bad" (in perspective to the person) as possible just because then we can avoid people saying "ike" for complicated and "lu" for simple

remote junco
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yeah exactly

chilly urchin
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You can like something and that can be bad

remote junco
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that’s why I suggested earlier that lu would not have simple in its definition

chilly urchin
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nods

remote junco
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tbh leme reminds me of how I use pilin

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I often do stuff like “ona li pilin ike e mi”

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≈ it makes me feel bad

chilly urchin
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Yeah I like transitive pilin

remote junco
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me too!!

atomic halo
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coining a word that coincides with kolisins nasin makes confetti go off around you and douses you in green slime

remote junco
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coats you in PINK slime

chilly urchin
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I chase the confetti around

atomic halo
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no way...

azure gulch
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kolisinelodeon

atomic halo
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TBHH

chilly urchin
azure gulch
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assaulted

chilly urchin
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This violently specifically

remote junco
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spraying skunks be like

atomic halo
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TRUEEEE

azure gulch
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Ddddddo we need a specific word for skunk maybe maybe

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maybe no maybe maybe

chilly urchin
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kijetesantagisi

azure gulch
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maybe,,,

atomic halo
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we have a specific word for a board game that uses tokens

chilly urchin
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Oh yeah we do

azure gulch
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ke Masug

chilly urchin
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I still think that's so so funny that that's a classifier

atomic halo
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TRUEEE

chilly urchin
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Culturally important clasiffier

atomic halo
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the people crave board game with tokens

azure gulch
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classifiers are fun

atomic halo
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its also like. war coded i think?

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which could be one reason why that specific thing has its own classifier

chilly urchin
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ohh

atomic halo
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its like when youre strategizing and youre like wow... just like chess...

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or some shiyg

azure gulch
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i cld be wrong but does the classifier not refer to games played

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bcz chinese does it like that

atomic halo
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not that it's directly war coded more that the most Classic examples of games like that are war coded, like chess and cờ tướng

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and go which is called "surround chess" and it's a simulation of having your troops capture other troops

chilly urchin
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I am not con chó anymore I'm now cờ chó

atomic halo
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TRUE

azure gulch
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actually thinking abt it now chinese 棋 is so many things

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its the game (physical item), the game (instance of playing), the pieces (on the game), the game (strategy)

chilly urchin
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toki pona coded

atomic halo
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gisi gisi han language renaissance

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oh yeah an instance of playing is a ván

atomic halo
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it's used as a unit word

azure gulch
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it feels taoist but im not sure

atomic halo
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strokes your long white beard

azure gulch
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something something life force something something war

atomic halo
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ke alt meaning taoism and we use that to refer to toki pona philosophy instead of pona

azure gulch
chilly urchin
azure gulch
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giving me ideas of gisi gisi supa

atomic halo
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thích though

chilly urchin
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FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK (my telepathy throws everything around the room)

atomic halo
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hehehe

chilly urchin
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Can a "forgets tone" and a "forgets article" truly teach each other

azure gulch
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卒適盤呢 tbh tbh

atomic halo
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ván can be a round/instance of a lot of games actually like you can be like "chơi một ván uno không?"

atomic halo
chilly urchin
atomic halo
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ya

chilly urchin
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You can just do that?

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No subject??? 😟

atomic halo
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it's omit subject + omit có

azure gulch
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subject dropping eyes

remote junco
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oh we’re talking about ke hehe

azure gulch
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also wikt says đánh

chilly urchin
azure gulch
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which apparently is related to 打

atomic halo
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we also have bài as headnoun for card games btw if you care (it also directly means card)

azure gulch
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is đánh or chơi more common card games la

remote junco
atomic halo
remote junco
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here we go

azure gulch
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so real

chilly urchin
atomic halo
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TRUEEE

azure gulch
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đánh một ván mạt chược không 😔

atomic halo
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that's such an unpopular game that ive like never heard that word until now

chilly urchin
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DKJNDHBJBDHGDVHGF

atomic halo
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if i HAVE ever then it's loaned like ma-zông or something

azure gulch
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i think

chilly urchin
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What is The vietnamese board games

azure gulch
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mạt chược refers to the

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vietnamese

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version of mahjong

atomic halo
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idk im a zoomer💔

azure gulch
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which is much much much less popular

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than the other varents

chilly urchin
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fuckkkkkkkkkk 💔 all zoomers do is hate board game eat hot chip and lie

atomic halo
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party games are usually uno or werewolf (ma sói)

azure gulch
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also i may or may not have wasted too long of a time remembering what the word for "want" is that i forgot what i wanted to say

remote junco
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this is why I’m just a skunk because I love board game hate hot chip and be honest

atomic halo
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oh actually one board game that's common because it's fun for the whole family is horse chess or wtfe it's called

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cờ cá ngựa(?) why do we call them seahorses that is just horses

azure gulch
atomic halo
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your mind...

chilly urchin
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Or pacheesi or whatever its called in english

remote junco
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parcheesi yeah

atomic halo
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ooh actually cá might be like a han word and not the viet word meaning fish that makes cá ngựa mean seahorse

azure gulch
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oh my god airplane chess

atomic halo
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maybe its the elusive Word For A Piece? maybe?? we do use cá as a verb to mean bet so im guessing the word itself is games coded

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bet like with money btw

chilly urchin
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wager coded

azure gulch
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cá ngựa wikt la it just means seahorse

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cá is the fish cá

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but thy also say its a clipping of cờ cá ngựa

atomic halo
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oh wow we really do just call them seahorse for no reason

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yeah look at the cá in cờ cá ngựa

chilly urchin
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😭

atomic halo
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we call dice xúc xắc btw :] they're one of the repeated words

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simulating the sound they make when you shake them

chilly urchin
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xúc xắc....

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thats so good actually

atomic halo
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xắc also means shake

azure gulch
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susa - shake idk /musi

atomic halo
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TRUEE

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ooh actually i just remembered another thing cờ bạc is like a negative connotation word we use to say someone's like betting and spending all their money away on poker and whatnot

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board game + money

chilly urchin
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tôi xắc ở mọi phía or something idk i have 2 learn prepositins

atomic halo
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TBHHH

chilly urchin
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Wat does it say 2 you doe

atomic halo
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one thing i adore about viet is that our compound words are like two other little words and it means uhh imagine if those two words were one thing

chilly urchin
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Do I sond like 3rd grader twirks jair

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o

atomic halo
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like you're always at the casino -> youre always doing board games and money

chilly urchin
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nods

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KJNDHDHJBGDHGVFD

atomic halo
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like if we made more variants of "shitting and pissing"

chilly urchin
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YOU'0RE ALWAYS DOING BOARD GAMES AND MONEYYYY!!!

atomic halo
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LITERALLYYY

chilly urchin
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GEn Z vietnamese doesnt know classic board games all they know is board games and money games

atomic halo
chilly urchin
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yeah cool :3

atomic halo
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there's also like you're always drinking -> you're always on that wine and tea / wine and beer

chilly urchin
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DBHJDBGJJHV

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htis isk illing me

atomic halo
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GAMBLING. I FORGOT THE ENGLISH WORD GAMBLING

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YOURW ALWAYS GAMBLING ON THE BOARD GAMES AND MONEY !!!

remote junco
chilly urchin
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TRUEEEEEEEEE

remote junco
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it’s really funny too because one time this Christian in another class period was proselytizing on the paper that covers our tables and then he crossed out the religious words and replaced them with gambling terms

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and then they got into a war of sorts on this paper

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and soon other people starting chipping in on the gambling propaganda

chilly urchin
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DDJHGBDGJHDVHGFDDDJBHG

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GODDD

remote junco
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I think the paper has been replaced like 2 times now and it’s still on-going

chilly urchin
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And then Jesus said: "Stand up!! Pick your mat chips, and walk get on that roulette!!"

remote junco
#

nah the Christian wasn’t quoting the bible they were the most zoomer ever about their notes

chilly urchin
#

ohgthat makes it worse

remote junco
#

“GOD ON TOP”, “Praise the Lord”, “Stop sinning or else you’ll go to Hell” and stuff like that

#

the first one is the one I remember the most certainly

remote junco
#

at least we had wittier slogans

chilly urchin
#

GOD ON TOPPP I'M LOSIGN IT

#

THATS SO FUNNY

remote junco
#

“90% of people quit before they win big”, “Always bet on black”

chilly urchin
#

HAHAHAHA

remote junco
#

and it’s still ongoing lmao

#

GOD ON TOP is one of the most recent additions after like the 3rd paper covering was installed

#

since people like to doodle on it

#

I’ve written sitelen suwi or drew mazes whenever I get bored

chilly urchin
#

that fux

remote junco
#

kind of a tradition in that classroom at this point

remote junco
chilly urchin
#

yas...

wind compass
#

me learning sitelen suwi so i can leave it on white boards or something

atomic halo
#

there's a whiteboard next to where im sitting at school right now

#

'uge si leme namunen

wind compass
#

o toki pona e ona rnrn

atomic halo
#

tbhhhh

#

menu ka pispis gisi - fictional character

#

thoughts

#

very similar to ka sesli but with Implications which is why im rubbing my chin at it

#

alternatively you can just use it exactly like the opposite of ka 'alapa whatever ka 'alapa is

#

god. menu ka 'alapa gisi - person who's the spirit of the speech - also fictional character

#

its so hard im going back to content words

#

leme pispis - physical sensation

#

leme 'alapa is getting emotional leme pispis is your heart rate going up

remote junco
atomic halo
#

person whose reality is the gisi

#

welcome back alu

#

alternatively person who's realized by the gisi, so like both are possible interpretations of say "toki la jan li lon"

remote junco
#

X ka Y Z = X that is Yly related to Z

#

g

atomic halo
#

it's kind of funny because like. im using pispis in the coding logic True way

remote junco
#

I still haven’t really acknowledged pispis for some reason

#

I like how it means “to piss” in tok pisin

atomic halo
#

person has a verifying relationship with speech -> person = speech; or if(speech){ person; }

#

LOL??

remote junco
#

mhm!

#

see, pis was already in the lexicon for fish

#

so the word for piss was turned into pispis

atomic halo
#

in gisi gisi they say pispis for true because taking the piss is the realest thing you could do

remote junco
#

jcnncjsjnd

azure gulch
#

my streak of swears in gisi gisi remains unbroken

atomic halo
#

it is a recent one with a lot of semantic quirks that we haven't really put into practice which is probably why

remote junco
atomic halo
#

gisi ka 'upune pispis - flat out fuicking lie

azure gulch
#

gisi gisi pakala equivalent pekalug (VN vcl, TOK pakala) /musi

#

actually no shld be /j

atomic halo
#

TRUE

remote junco
atomic halo
#

it's so funny that vcl sounds like pakala actually

azure gulch
#

vcl was my first vietnamese word

remote junco
atomic halo
#

to our viewers at home vcl is short for vãi cả lồn, a swear interjection which translates literally to your pussy fell off / you pissed yourself

remote junco
#

aw I hate it when my pussy falls off, luckily I can just grow a new one

atomic halo
#

there is a falling off action happening in your pussy and were not sure what

#

tbhhhh

azure gulch
#

pekalug/sigka'i pair,,,,

atomic halo
#

TR UE

remote junco
#

pekalun for shriveling up and shrinking

#

that sounds very sili hmm

azure gulch
#

kemu si pekalug - you fell off ☹️

atomic halo
#

side note i find it really funny how like being in the middle of making a tokiponido makes you paranoiafully aware of every semantic bump

#

like im like "no kalama because it can be leme kute instead" and then i look back at toki pona and it has kalama and mu and kute and pilin

#

just all at once

remote junco
remote junco
atomic halo
#

sili alt meaning pussy fell off

remote junco
#

ncjsjjcnsn

atomic halo
wind compass
atomic halo
#

tbhhh

wind compass
#

"wait they said this is the word for red but can it be used to describe chairs or is there another word for red when it's a red chair"

remote junco
#

yeah

#

red chairs are actually a Han loan and have a special word for red fossilized in them

wind compass
#

gggggg

atomic halo
#

im getting like itchy going "oh fuck kepa and silen are too similar" and every day i have to repeat "kute kalama mu" to myself like a mantra against wicked fiends

#

linja palisa linja palisa

azure gulch
#

ancient mediums be like kute kalama mu kute kalama mu

atomic halo
#

TBHHH

azure gulch
#

okay hot take

#

'e'u feels very mu.

atomic halo
#

perks my huge ear up

azure gulch
#

its derived from a word for ear

#

but

#

the glottal stops kind of

#

mu.

#

also u ending

remote junco
#

really nasin got split into kepa and silen

#

kusi also perhaps

atomic halo
azure gulch
#

kusi :]

remote junco
atomic halo
#

maybe the world will be alright and full of sunshine

#

TRUEE

azure gulch
#

nasin split to kepa silen is actually rlly cool imo

atomic halo
#

gisi gisi victory

chilly urchin
#

So I was eating and finally got to the big conclusion

#

But I'll tell u in a sec I'm still eating

atomic halo
#

kepus pispis

azure gulch
#

brainstorming mukbang session,,,,

wind compass
atomic halo
#

TBHHH

azure gulch
#

nunaku dont die on us

atomic halo
#

RANDY YOUR STICKS

chilly urchin
#

OG HYM Y GFODDDDD

#

HE DID FUCKING DO THAT!!!!!!!!

wind compass
#

basically lmfa
it's colloquially known as fermat's last theorem, and it was basically "yeah i have an awesome proof for this but it's too long to write here lol"

#

i believe it's that a^n+b^n=c^n has no non-trivial solutions for n greater than 2

chilly urchin
#

Yeah 😭

#

Iirc it was specifically the

#

a^12+b^12=c^12

#

that weas fucked up

wind compass
#

ah

chilly urchin
#

Let me see

#

Or I may hgave made it up

#

In the meantime

azure gulch
#

and just like that, Nunaku's Big Conclusion remains unsolved /musi

chilly urchin
#

What I was saying was that like

#

🪦

azure gulch
#

NOOOOO

final frost
#

F

chilly urchin
#

"lu" is interesting combined with standalone "si"

#

because "lu" then is promoted to the more important category

#

Where it just isn't, but it is Existent

#

As in, if somethign exists to you in that regard then it must be important

azure gulch
#

pispis?

atomic halo
#

pispis for mommy?

chilly urchin
#

ig yeah

#

pisois

#

:(

atomic halo
#

A A A

#

yoire right though... that's awesome

chilly urchin
#

does spider have pispis

atomic halo
#

its like "it's... there!" vs "it's so real rn

chilly urchin
#

YEAH

#

It'sd like when ppl ask errrmm whats ur opinion on loj ban

#

And I go

#

"It is"

#

"It exists"

#

The most basic form of recognizing it

azure gulch
#

so if its not important to you therefore it does not exist

atomic halo
#

si is such a funny way to say lon like youre saying it exists enough to be the subject in a sentence and then you just stop

azure gulch
#

it

chilly urchin
#

But like tbh

#

When u are nd that do be how it wokrs

#

I forget so much that I am not interested in

atomic halo
#

it

chilly urchin
#

it

azure gulch
#

it

#

yeah

#

so its like the difference beteen

#

X si
&
X si pispis

#

both imply existence but one is considered the more

#

Yes

chilly urchin
#

and then puspus can mean the opposite

atomic halo
#

"is lojban good or bad"
"sí"

chilly urchin
#

DJBHGDHJGVFD

azure gulch
#

TRUE

chilly urchin
#

ALso I find it interesting how the animal words are so like

#

fuced up core

#

like

#

fuzy, smooth or nena, hard outside and/or squoisy inside

atomic halo
#

my carpets tbh

atomic halo
#

'askalis si leme ka 'ispi 'uge

chilly urchin
#

||the cat is Affected by you||

atomic halo
#

its true...

remote junco
chilly urchin
#

Ok wait

#

That wasn't the main point

#

Like that was on purpose but

#

What I wanted 2 say is that it's funny how that matches with cold and hot blooded

#

Like yeah originally that was the intention but then it was textures because it was better. And then that went back around

#

I tink

remote junco
#

where are the animal words at now?

azure gulch
#

in the document

#

we hope they wont escape

chilly urchin
#

Oh right klet me pick up a pipi etymology

atomic halo
remote junco
#

yes, yes they are

azure gulch
#

two 'askalis one pukis

#

one namako

remote junco
#

my favorite gisi, namako

final frost
#

'askalis li soweli anu seme
pukis li pipi Y?

azure gulch
#

one illegal letter

azure gulch
#

(lon)

final frost
#

pona

chilly urchin
#

pukis is kala and akesi but it's mostly for animals that are smoothj or ruggedy/scaly on the outside

final frost
#

aaa

azure gulch
#

mmmm

final frost
#

animal words for me finally 🥺 /musi

#

gisi gisi la no more will i have to fight "no waso is just about flight" ers

chilly urchin
#

and the pipi word which i am figuring out is for animals with a hard shell and/or a squishy boneless inside

final frost
#

aaa sona

chilly urchin
#

yeah u now have to classify them by textures

#

u need to feel dat thing

final frost
#

ok. tortoises are not boingless. but. they do be crisp shelled and squishy insided

azure gulch
#

animals by feel,,, honestly that is so awesome

final frost
#

mi jojinke e waso li toki e ni
a, sona. ni li 'askalis

chilly urchin
#

I WAS GONNA SAY

#

O JOJINKE

final frost
#

a a a

azure gulch
#

sina wile sona e ijo la
o jojinke

#

luka sina li pilin seme la
o toki

final frost
#

can animal words describe the same texchure in general? or is it just creachure with x feel

azure gulch
#

maybe use leme?

#

like "feel of X animal"

azure gulch
#

leme might not work that way idk

chilly urchin
#

which was like well these are just texture words really

#

like when u say "kule ma"

azure gulch
#

mmm

chilly urchin
#

But I guess in context and standalone

#

Like if you say "hm,m,,, [sinpin] 'ispi si 'askalis"

#

I think that's a valid usage

final frost
#

:o

chilly urchin
#

I want it tobe a valid usage at least because it's so fun

azure gulch
#

its very interesting

chilly urchin
#

Oh yeah so like

#

For ppl un aware

#

gisi gisi is a language where a lot of words are related to natural processes or the likes, yes. like "sili" is effect passage of time but also fermentation by itself. pagkan is laso but also bushery. So !! If you want 2 propose a word or something it's always nice to try to find something of the likes that is naturally or culturally Epic to tie along with since a lot of the language builds itself up on fenomena like this

#

phenomerna

azure gulch
#

lu penis to good pipeline,,,

chilly urchin
#

nods jajely

final frost
#

pog

chilly urchin
#

It's like how kanesu is derived from the rabbit in the moon

#

etc

azure gulch
#

yutu story lets gooo

#

wait wiat wait

#

is there a word for sun yet

#

awhh fuck wait theres a word for bird noooo

chilly urchin
#

I do assume now that we have "lus" it can also be kanesu lus

azure gulch
#

nnn

#

yeah makes sense

#

bcz theres a very abstract word in chinese 烏兔 ("crows and rabbits") which refer to the sun and moon

#

kanesu lus/sagke is really cute tho

chilly urchin
#

heheheh thats fun though..... whats the chinese word for crow btrw

#

wait its right there

azure gulch
#

烏鴉 (wūyā)

chilly urchin
#

how is it prono

#

ohhhh

#

wuya....

azure gulch
#

烏 also means black

chilly urchin
#

i need to learn pinyin good

#

and not bad

azure gulch
#

nnn its similar to vietnamese ú ía maybe

#

high flat tone "oo yah"

chilly urchin
#

wait flat or risin

#

g

azure gulch
#

flat -ish

chilly urchin
#

ohhhh

azure gulch
#

mic delay moment

chilly urchin
#

then ig no diacritics ? u ia

azure gulch
#

nnnnn maybe yeah

atomic halo
#

why is the sun a crow ..

chilly urchin
#

This would be so tempting but it has no fricatives so u cant sell that 2 Ka'i

#

Also I've been trying to find what word tthey use specifically in Maori to refer to giant clams

atomic halo
#

come back when you're a little... mmmm... sibilant!

chilly urchin
#

everyone keeps saying pa'ua but that's like

#

is that true

#

i cant confirm

azure gulch
chilly urchin
#

it semes like it is pā’ua though

azure gulch
#

not ideal methinks

chilly urchin
#

'u'i'u'a

chilly urchin
azure gulch
#

mythology is very cool indeed <3

chilly urchin
#

Also bird circle ftw

#

Vietnamese Trống đồng surface 🤝 three legged crows gold circle

atomic halo
#

TBHHH

atomic halo
#

because we got sesli and were all like wow this is so enko coded

#
  • kepa and sili appeared
#

so instead of saying a bit later ive had to resort to shit like "when it ferments"

#

describing tenpo with landmarks the same way we do when someone asks how to say right or left in toki pona

chilly urchin
#

yeah thius

#

theres a concepot we have yet to solidify but it's in the play jround

#

of having a word that is roughly similar to enko but less ambiguous

atomic halo
#

gisi gisi space player

chilly urchin
#

frothing at the mouth

atomic halo
#

heehee

chilly urchin
#

I find iut so funny that Jade ust like became a permanent dog

#

Like that isnt part of the god suit thats just her

azure gulch
#

sili pagkan are both good

#

enko,,, hm

chilly urchin
#

the stages of lkife really do be las'e, pagkan, pispis, sili and kepus

azure gulch
#

pispis mmmm

chilly urchin
#

hm

#

maub e 'ispi

azure gulch
#

i think

#

degree la its an good word

#

ka sesli covers ?

chilly urchin
#

are u asking anu seme

azure gulch
#

yes yes

chilly urchin
#

ka sesli is usually a general "at" or "on"

#

very lon-pilled

azure gulch
#

any ka construction for degree

chilly urchin
#

what is degree here

azure gulch
#

this X, thus X, such X, so X etc

#

extent

#

anu sama

#

sesli ????? enko coded

atomic halo
azure gulch
#

(brain not braining rn)

chilly urchin
#

I think I am also mega gwonfused rn

chilly urchin
#

no

#

ohhh like suli ?

azure gulch
#

n yeah

chilly urchin
#

<- fucked up in da head

azure gulch
#

like

#

oh its thiiiiis big

#

sort of

#

degree/extent/

#

-ness

#

tahts whtasbdnjckkflfmflg,

chilly urchin
#

We actually were playing around with the size word

#

And a fucking fun ass construction

#

of "ka [size] X" as a basis where you say that the size of something is the size of X, bigger or smaller

azure gulch
#

woah

#

actually

#

wait

#

yeah thats like what i was what i want to say

chilly urchin
#

But that's like we're toying around wth it

#

nods nods

azure gulch
#

like

atomic halo
#

we're toying around with joe mama

azure gulch
#

ka [size] X and it can convey like

#

size, speed, temperature, etc etc

#

similarity maybe????

atomic halo
#

ka nesku for similarity

azure gulch
#

rite

chilly urchin
atomic halo
#

:derg:

chilly urchin
#

:derg:

atomic halo
#

kanesu si magi, mukaski si las'e

#

kanesu lus si 'ales leme

#

'alapa magi 'i lus si 'alapa

#

'uge si paka ka paka sesli kipa

#

menu 'uge ka sesli 'ispi

balmy solstice
#

g si pes gisi 'ales

atomic halo
#

gisi 'Ales si gisi Kales

balmy solstice
#

m

atomic halo
#

'uge 'i leme ka las'e [kalama] gisi si 'ispi

#

[kalama] Kales pes [kalama] Keles si 'upune kipa

azure gulch
#

ᵏᵘᵗᵉ ᵏᵃˡᵃᵐᵃ ᵐᵘ ᵏᵘᵗᵉ ᵏᵃˡᵃᵐᵃ ᵐᵘ ᵏᵘᵗᵉ ᵏᵃˡᵃᵐᵃ ᵐᵘ

atomic halo
#

TBHHH

#

toki pona la because its so hard without kalama

#

namako Kolisin li toki e ken ni: kalama pi nimi Kales li kama ante wawa

azure gulch
#

nimi Keles la seme

atomic halo
#

kalama 'Ales li ante pona tawa kalama Keles

#

ni li pona tawa mi, taso ni li awen ken li kama ala lon

#

tenpo mute la mi kalama pakala e nimi Kales e nimi Keles a a

azure gulch
#

ala a
mi pilin e ni
ante kalama la o ante e nimi Keles o awen e nimi Kales

atomic halo
#

a, tan seme

azure gulch
#

tan pi nimi Kales li jo e kalama /k/
taso
tan pi nimi Keles li jo ala e /k/ li jo e /t/ taso

#

la
ante kalama pi nimi Keles li pona mute
ante kalama pi nimi Kales li ken; taso ni li pilin utala e mi

#

suli la
ni li pilin mi taso
ijo li pilin ante la mi utala ala

balmy solstice
#

sina wile nimi e nimi la sina suli e sitelen nimi nanpa wan. taso nimi li open kepeken sitelen ' la sina suli e sitelen nimi nanpa tu anu seme

atomic halo
#

pilin mi la nasin ni li pona

#

nasin lawa ala li lon

balmy solstice
#

lu

azure gulch
#

lu,,,,

atomic halo
#

mi kute e Lu la mi kute e nimi pi tuki tiki taso 💔

balmy solstice
#

gisi kepa 💔

atomic halo
#

PISPISSSS

#

wait LUUUU works better actually

#

tokiponists will find l- onset interjection in every timeline

azure gulch
#

luuuuu

#

alternate universe where lon and pona exchanged interjectional usage

#

(here)

balmy solstice
#

PENIS!!!

azure gulch
#

hkshddkjdkdjdn

#

i cant get over it

stray hinge
#

no way a maori loanword

#

epimu

#

good i now know that "i" is the obj marker in maori

#

that saves me an hour of maori lessons

azure gulch
#

congratulations on the time saving

atomic halo
#

new gisi giser?!?!

balmy solstice
#

new tech for learn maori any%

azure gulch
#

gisi gisi as a viable learning apparatus for māori

atomic halo
#

we need more maori loan words

final frost
#

what if a gisi gisi learning/use thread i wanna learn but i don't wanna decipher a lipu

#

i wanna be taught pick it up through use

azure gulch
#

tbh i think there still a lot to kinks to work out i think tbh

#

so like myb smwhere in the future myb like

atomic halo
#

watch me drop my gisilets every few hours in here

final frost
#

aw i can't join the fermentations

atomic halo
#

you gotta join it as soon as possible there's only gonna be more words from here on out

#

the vocabulary curse

azure gulch
#

real

final frost
#

sentence structure same as tp?

balmy solstice
#

instead of X li Y e Z, it's X e Z li Y

#

except different words for e and li

stray hinge
final frost
#

ok

atomic halo
#

we also have a pi but we're abandoning it in place of lo (the preposition marker)

#

menu ka sesli sigka'i si sili - the man (preposition: location) the moss is fermenting

azure gulch
#

(he may be cheese)

atomic halo
#

most likely On the moss but who knows ....

stray hinge
#

roto: lake, inside
hoki: a type of fish, zkin, return

atomic halo
#

he may be cheese.

balmy solstice
#

the person ferments inside the cheese

azure gulch
#

the elder grows old within the growth ☹️

atomic halo
azure gulch
#

luku,,,

atomic halo
#

luku tbh

azure gulch
#

lusu maybe

#

but minimal pairs aaaa

final frost
#

onomatopoeia

atomic halo
#

srrving minimal pair eleganza

azure gulch
#

rupaul voice

balmy solstice
#

luku: penis in a pi way

azure gulch
# azure gulch rupaul voice

keles, you are safe, you may join the other words

kales, i mud say you were a great word
but tonight u will be seeing red
sashay away

final frost
#

new language where all words mean penis in a different language

azure gulch
#

i regret typing this

azure gulch
#

saka idk whatever can we reserve this word (Malay zakar "testicles")

atomic halo
#

VN dái

azure gulch
#

jai,,,,

chilly urchin
#

so

#

I thought about how I was the other day like

#

"oh sitelen telo" as a different way to say "video" or whatever

#

How do we feel about telo having a slice of ante

#

Like a bigger one and not just how in tp the thing about being changing is not That used

lucid bay
#

ohhhh thta sounds pretty 🥺

#

dats awesome

chilly urchin
#

on our way to dethrone musi toki pi nimi wan

wicked hedge
#

oh cool

#

next after that is sona pona

atomic halo
balmy solstice
#

ka gisi 'i musi toki pi nimi wan si kepus
(is that how you do "o X"? "ka gisi [mu mu mu]"?)

atomic halo
balmy solstice
#

well, gases are fluids

chilly urchin
#

nodzx

atomic halo
#

tbhh

balmy solstice
#

pispis ka ka gases ⊆ fluid

atomic halo
#

'uge: g si sagke ka 'upune magi pes 'alapa menu pispis?
menu [pali] ka sesli sesli Kakupe: ka kemu kemu pes 'a'e si paka ka nesku [telo]

atomic halo
wicked hedge
#

i spent like twenty minutes scrolling through toki suli and did this:

sona pona - 12912
musi toki pi nimi wan - 12605
linjamanka - 10961
gisi gisi - 9929
bad nimisin - 8695
lipamanka pi font ala - 7872
sitelen kekan kan - 2989
sona kekan san - 1588
mini critique - 1555
cw:ai - 1261
good nimisin - 1151

remote junco
#

winning

chilly urchin
#

Hopefully nobody betrays the thread tbh

wicked hedge
#

a a a a a

atomic halo
#

sometimes i forget nesku means similar. i need to use nesku more

chilly urchin
#

wait deos it

#

i thought it was jut ijo

atomic halo
#

it's ijo with more meat on its generic side

#

ka nesku can man similar and we also added similar itself to nesku's content definition

#

at least im pushing for it hard because i think nesku's [generic, example, similarity] side is extremely fascinating

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dare i say nesku can even mean category a la poki

chilly urchin
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hrmmmm inchresting

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cào

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or is it fucking cáo

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idr

atomic halo
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kusi ka ka nesku 3 si pispis - as for the tool, there are 3 items OR there are 3 types

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imo it's just the same amount of wobbling as, say, sama being able to mean exactly the same or similar at varying amounts

atomic halo
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cáo means fox

chilly urchin
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what

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OHHHH

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i meant cái

atomic halo
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OHHH

chilly urchin
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or whatever is the classifier

atomic halo
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yeah❤️ love her

chilly urchin
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I always remember it because of ur name

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Ka'i

atomic halo
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TRUEE

remote junco
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nesku as kind or type isipin

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nah that sounds more ‘ispicore tbh

atomic halo
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m! fair

wispy tendonBOT
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win

pukis Ka'i ↩️

[Reply to:](#1220981267076481077 message) cáo means fox

atomic halo
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i was thinking of nesku type in the sense that like. the nesku is the abstracted form of the item

remote junco
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oh true

atomic halo
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two vacuum cleaners of the same model are not meaningfully different unless theyre in the same room and their Being Separate Entities is highlighted

remote junco
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‘ispi nesku perhaps maybe

atomic halo
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nods sagely

wind compass
atomic halo
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true....

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kusi si lus ka ka mukaski si namunen g

chilly urchin
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namunen here meaning...

remote junco
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your mom

chilly urchin
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:[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[

atomic halo
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YOUR MOMMM

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hold on do i have that picture saved

chilly urchin
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DBJHDJHGBVDVGHFD

atomic halo
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nesku si magi si [suli] ka ka nesku si leme [moku] pukis g

chilly urchin
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THIS IS SO FUNNY

atomic halo
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I KNOW

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it's so good

atomic halo
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introducing my new g si X ka 'upune Y for anu

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"is it X as opposed to Y"

remote junco
wicked hedge
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namako kolisin place of work reveal

remote junco
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(I do not work anywhere)

chilly urchin
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(she doesn't work anywhere)

atomic halo
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[robert downey jr voice] she doesn't work anywhere

azure gulch
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woozy idea hours Good morning vigesimal numeral system Byebye

chilly urchin
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needless to say, he (?) is needlessly dependent on the vigesimal numeral system /ref

atomic halo
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fucked in the head

azure gulch
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'ispi for numeral 1

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is it still woozy ideas hours

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1 minute left

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uhhhhhhhhh [word for number]✓¥§• the number 10

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whatever system wes

atomic halo
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you have to add the ✓¥§• suffix for it to mean 10

chilly urchin
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Fux thanx 4 reminding me 2 study Viet Numberz