#gisi gisi — toki kili pi toki pona tan namako Kolisin
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it’s pretty much toki pona but with a spicy new particle
and SOV word order dont forget
sov my beloved
sov like hit game soulsov from gigidigi creator of cucumber quest and artist for the deltarune series
gisidigi
TRUEEEE
how to be best conlamg:
- must have the four vowel system i u æ ɑ
- must have cv syllable structure with some fricatives and nasals thrown in as codas sometimes
- must have sov word order
if you dont have all of these things then bad languag!1
gonna make a new conlang critic series where i just evaluate all the languages using these criteria
lojban should do this
so true
a programming language having osv would be so funny actually... imagine
vso i mean
verb(subject, object);
lon
gg
do sov and make all your functions funny
(subject, object)verb
tokiponido critic
jan utala pi toki kili
lma tru
it is i, the fighter of the fruit languages
kolisin when's the jasima word with utala merger suggestion from jan Kali dropping
botanical jargon warrior
lmfa
sometime
sili ka ka ...
sjw is so 5 years ago
now we complain about bjw's
LONN
ban for using the wrong indefinite article!
kolisin rolls worst linguistics forced to democratize gisi gisi
rippy:((
tbh...
for kulupu in other contexts though we do have kepa - arrangement, sequence, pattern
trutru I did consider that
nasin got split into kepa for pattern and silen for path in the divorce
intriguing
I never knew nasin could mean pattern
it means order and way of being which could be patterned or tidy
patterned being a word is fucked up.
oh mi o lape though lawa li lukin e mi
interesting
thinks hard about it and nods
is stress on the first syllable like tp
ive been reading it that way the whole time so i sure hope so!
i have been assuming that
gisi sounds like it wants to be on the first syllable really bad and i dont think there's any signs that we have like. variable stress per word so i think it's safe to assume
yeah it’s first syllable stress
WOO!
I’ve been considering penultimate stress but I decided against it
'aLApa...
literally the first word I thought of pronouncing this way
a a
gisi ‘Alapa si ‘alapa ka sesli [lawa] ‘uge
'alaPAAUUH
toki pona but French
pagKAWN puKEES
oh wait that’s just nasin panke
nasin pagkan let's go
h sh tgugj
I think we should make it variable stress but confusing and unmarked like in English
sigka'i wants me to put secondary stress on 'i because of the glottal stop it's probably a skill issue
Skill glottissue tbh
GLOTTISSUE
TRUE
personally i have glottal stop tone so i got it perfectly
sigkãi but not raised
menu Ka'i flexing grue and glottal stop tone it's so over
LITERALLYYY
literally nothing but Ws for me tbh
actually really quick im gonna put my moku idea on the playground
girls when they remember the sheet exists
also moving 'ispi to the main dictionary i think which would mean every playground entry is from me
PIPITYMOLOGY
we need to get in on this people. we need to ka 'ispi gisi 'ispi
[siɲcaʔi]
did you guys know pagkan 'i sagke sesli si las'e
pagkan 'i kales si las'e ka sili sesli ka ka sagke ka sesli kales si las'e
pagkan 'i menu si leme ka nesku kipa kepa ka ka menu 'i pagkan si magi 'i sagke sesli si las'e kipa
making use of the plant lexicon by writing a bit about ecology
before i translate
is this kales or keles
kales
^ :3 but she got dislodged
also an experimental backwards ka sili btw
thinking of it like "(turn) into" but in either direction
ndos ndos
now that i read it back that one could mean totally opposite things because the verb doesn't do much to disambiguate it
perhaps sesli 'i kales si las'e ka las'e pagkan ?
|| when foliage plants itself into the earth, life on earth begins ||
||When plants affect people in disorderly emotions, people wither the plants and stop birthing life into the place||
ya!!!!
this is what i remember from a tumblr post i read about how ||lawns are bad because grass is an early stage of ecological succession that creates the conditions for an ecosystem to form||
this is also part of my pagkan foliage propaganda because ||the smaller plants that grow more easily (this is preceded by sigka'i that can grow even more easily without needing soil) are the pagkan of life||
is this more like ||when plants affect people due to their disorderliness ansem||
nods nods ||lawns that are just grass suck. People shoudl let a liottle ecosystem grow there tbh||
lonnn
actually also thinking about it pagkan to describe leaves on a tree is not Completely far fetched
leaves collect nutrients to las'e the fruit
collect sunlight
the keles collect nutrients but like
so is pagkan for u like specifically a kulupu kasi
you know... green stuff
and not the individual stuff
pagkan to me is the domain of grass and weeds
and it's debatable whether leaves are metaphorically a grass and weed of the tree
in that it's also a precedent for other things to start happening
[new, fresh] and all that
sin }
ywah...❤️
yay !!!! 🌿
grass and weeds i think are the explicit plant definition but the idea of pagkan as new originated from unripe fruit
which may or may not be notable
OHHH
Ok yes
I think u should like
Add that distinction to the sheet
Of like
Specifically new things idk
I know it's there but I feel like
Idk the plant beiong unripe thing caught me a bit off guard
Or maybe I just didn't read good
i rewrote foliage into grass+weed just now
hopefully that should make it better
they're a counterpart to sigka'i which is a little cool
Ohhhhh ok nods nods
both are "easy" static organisms and one is about growth while the other is about freshness
if i remember correctly it goes something like grass then bushes which provide the shade for taller trees?
if we do get a word for tree itd be really funny to have like a whole gray area between them
the same way we're like "is dolphins soweli or kala" now
was it dolphins. it might've been seals
nods interesting interesting
'espu - light, color, visual btw thoughts
im still like kind of on the fence about including visual in there
if 'espu is JUST light then we can have magi 'espu - faded in a glowing way ~ white
OH
Right 'espu color
I like the distinction of like
it meaning light or color
Because like
Color does depend a lot of light + it literally is just bounced light
tuki tiki cooked with suno kule merger
Ur arguments earlier made me see it with new Eyes 👁🗨
And i forgot
So yeah I like magi white espu color
we can kind of have it be like. not a concept of "a color"? but rather like, this object glows in a certain manner
'espu kales - it glows warmly ~ it's orange
yeah no
I think that it like
Makes sense because like
Colors change a lot under different kinds of light / environments
lon....
we def gotta toy around with like, 'espu meaning glow primarily but also meaning reflected light and color at the same time
it might lead to some peculiar and bizarre ambiguities
I think that an interesting of 'espu being closely related to light is that
You can say stuff like
'espu kales 'espu
-> shiny/reflective orange
... i might have to change 'espu though its etymology is the greek word for the color white
LONNNN so real. metallic in gisi gisi
kusi 'espu nesku - mirror??? or something
[telo] si 'espu ka nesku 'uge - the water glows like me ~ the water reflects me
smirks but what about the incoming jasima
"we have jasima tomorrow"
"what?"
"we have to play around with the semantic space of jasima tomorrow"
oh ok
a a
that fucking "sili gisi" is never coming
so 'espu renaming. how we feeling
YEAH
leftist utopian revolution but it's gisi giser sili gisi
i really like the vibes of 'espu ill have to find a word with the same slay that means light
ooh. didn't Spanish have luz or something
hebrew luz means almond thank god
i can't believe it guys. imole primordial spirits or energies
noor...
These are good.... rubs temples together let me find more
lus (Spanish luz)
nu'a (Urdu i can't copypaste that sorry)
'usni? (Urdu same)
and if i may show my only knows english and my native language ass,
'ansen (Vietnamese ánh sáng but like with a southern accent)
same... nu'a is a good one
lus is a really cool word though
geckobone when there's sibilants
grabs you by the geckobone why aer yousibiling
sibling? like laios and falin? from d
i really like the implication that i have a single bone on my body shaped like a gecko that you can pick me up by btw
sesli silen ka leme moku
maybe tail is gecko bone . [nuds my chin]
LONN
so true....
grabs you like I am showing off a fish i caught in animal crossing
WOO!
curious btw what about my ramblings to kolisin made you reevaluate magi in your mind
which point
I am gonna be honest it's a slop in my mind
But I think the poiint of like
light relates to saturation more than with white
Was very nods head for me
And also I thinkthe sheep thing maybe but that was just a "wow...."
'uge si leme
nods nods
'uge si gisi ka kusi leme
The earthbound neurons activating
rahhhhhhhhh hhhhh yas 🥺
the Mother Series leme
gay people at a fashion show be like The Mother Series
TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[kiwen] kanesu ka paka kales ka sesli [pipi]...? um
menu Nis ka paka sesli... kusi 'a'e 'i leme sesli si moku.....?
rubbing my temples trying to decipher what the starman is doing
(idk
The first one is c
OH
waiut
rubs my temples
EEEYIKES! These enemies don't seem "bound" to "earth"!
||The meteorite in which buzz buzz arrived||
||Ness which is someone who frequents? the place. Then his tool assimilates the vibes of the place ||
loj... lon...
||ness goes to his awesome baby locations to absorb its vibes with the stone||
'alapa might have fit there but iirc (bad memory) it's more like personal significance to ness or like something which is leme coded
ka predicate with si dropping
it's when a ka phrase is the predicate a la "jan li tawa tomo"
The places themselves aren't places Ness knows but they all reflect personal significance so yeah I like the wording here
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
nods
i suggested to drop si there because "pona tawa sina"
menu 'Egkunas 'i 'alapa menu Nis si kusi.? hn
kusi Nis
not very sure about that gisinization
gisigization
menu 'Egkunas....
what is happening
Coup
kusi [how the fuck do you gisize earthbound]
‘Espan
Who is menu 'Egkunas I am so lost
andonuts a a a
OHHHH
nd to nk to gk pipeline
I would say menu Nes instead
true.. i did consider that
that’s just menu Linas smh
then i wanted to be spicy so i feel back to the japanese e which is like [e] isn't it
like
though i guess the japanese word came from the english Nes
Nɛss -> Nesu
v v
Nes Nis
ios there a
difference
between Ness and Nesu
I just pronounce them the same
(Spanish coded)
ness has the English Ess, nesu has the higher e that's at the beginning of ay
viet e and ê
(approximately)
e allows schwa??? so fucked up
em...
go learn vietnamese phonology
I am sadly watching videos with the wives
what kinds of videos... can i see m.....
Uno Amalgam
m unintentional but it became positive particle
true :D
kusi 'Unu'e Makan(???)
'Unu 'Amekan ansem
e because like emmmm
it's diferent
grue...
laso....
pagkan...
so is pagkan laso or green
it's laso
my b
the masses yearn for blue-green same word
CHEMICARDS
I’m sorry, characters? must have a new video now I guess
He presented the characters at some point some months ago but he hasn't done like
Much about them
ohhh
Just presented them. Has released some of their themes though
the inscryption theming is bleeding through
😭
The lore iirc is that ur one of the characters in some sort of laboratory as you try to get rid of ur cards because those are like
Chemical damage point
Like the cards reflect the real danger etc
it does have less blue than laso does i left blueberries and deep oceans onwards to the mukaski
fascinating
POV: you’re with PO-3
or however the fuck you spell his name
C3-PO ??
different android!!
ah
it’s just Poe but like robotified
yeahhhh
He kinda servces
you should
I should
pop off 3irlfriend
PO3 is an asshole
Woahh... now i GOTTA play this
I liked him better when he was a stoat
😭
hehdjjdjsj??
his act is pretty good tbf
well not as chef’s kiss as Leshy’s but there’s some cool stuff there too
menu Lesi
rizzcryption tbh
TBHHH
TRUE
menu Lesi si pagkan si sili
LONNN
also good news you guys we finally unlocked sight (once we settle on a word
leme [lus/nu'a]
nods nods
My silly dog brain might want 2 look at more word origins
But like
it's ur word do as u please
I just like looking at wordz
me too
it is my word. :lawami:
:gisiuge:
LONNN
looking back at all my oc names and getting embarrassed at how good sibilants got me
it's so over for me you guys
Wait let me think of the name of our system
Vietnamese but AWAB (Assigned Westerner at Birth)
Pentagram - Nonex, Knife, Viernes Deco, Kaolin Tala, Soko, Pentagram, Pollyanna
Yeah there's a lot of velar here
oc names la nahash, castor, exile, moloch,
Viernes Deco is literally Vriska Serket wtf
LOLLL
:<<<<<<<<<
fricatives anu plosives
x and ɣ?
/x ɣ/
LOLLL
That is so so scary twirls my hair flustered
Wtf.... the tutorer
theyre failing phonetics they want me so bad
😭 ddbhjkdjbhgv
aspirated and unaspirated [t] are also different phonemes
nods nods
I was actually gonna ask if like
U had differentiation of aspirated/unsapiralted consonants
gess thatdss dat
yuuup
the h does different things to different sounds though yeah
kh: plosive - fricative
th: unaspirated - aspirated
nh: alveolar - palatal
ph - [p] to [f]?? lots of things going on there
In what writing Schtuff
sometimes the phonemes themselves aren't changed but it's a convention of spelling, like <g> before <e, ê, i> becomes <gh>
yuuop
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converting nunaku with my trinkets and temptations
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gisi gisi should have a word that specifically means Vietnamese
but anyways yeah i think im going to fall victim to the bit so it's gonna be lus unless you guys have other words with sibilants and/or k
nods nods I will be on the look
i also like lus one syllable in a way that mildly nods to kon
ksjdjjdj
we got one it's ka'i
kon makes gust of air acoustics lus makes searing sun acoustics this makes no sense actually
TRUEES
for REAL
whoa more single phoneme
just like how Nunaku means Mexican and Kolisin Canadian (?)
or you have to say the fricative forms and these sounds only show up this one time wait that's really funny
😭 what
so ɣ only shows up before a certain sound
or not
is it an allophone or a phoneme then eyebrow rizzmoji
p - emotion particle: tiredness, fatigue
pronounced [ɸ]
i believe that's the symbol? i may be wrong
bilabial fricative ya
it's perfect too because we don't have a t that can be focused with s when fricatified
japanese fu is bilabial??? woah...
that's so cool...
just ɸ
like when u exhale
mmmm sssss ɸɸɸɸɸɸ
embarrassingggg!
i twirl like earthworm
<- has been gisi vacationing this whole day instead of being on the gisi grind
I think the issue ios that like
There are
So many bugs in legends
Like spiders and praying mantises and cicadas
And butterflies and worms and mollusks
So it's like
Buffet
fuckkk... go back to your gisi vacation it's okay
😭
what's cooler is that [ɸu] is an allophone of /hu/
going off the snails are the pipi synthesis thing didn't medieval monks draw a ton of snails on their margins
no way ....
ah right yeah because it's from the /h/ set
swagger
people fighting snails specifically but im not about to read 3 pop magazine articles and piece them together with a Phone
damn they did ?
😭
focusing on only the pipis that fit the hard shell AND goo inside criteria could make the buffet less overwhelming
no more butterfly.DIE!!!!
(in the same way we were looking at specifically griffins instead of just bird or lion
Yeah I was thinking that
Snales
Amonites
Etc
I mean all pipis are squisy inside but I think a mollusk is good
or something of the sorts
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
looks at gisi gisi
points at it
so when are we getting the queer vocab
pukis
third gender under construction
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I keep 4getting to do this
I think we can use a bit more structure moving forward now that we have a lot of words
And figure out what else we want + are missing
To avoid jenga towering
oh?
We already have ~40 words
A lot !! :D
But that also means that overlap might be more common and the likes
I think we've done really well so far though
whoa already? they grow up so fast…
that’s true
now thinking about how similar alasa/wile are
I have realized yet another nimi pu pair I have gripes with
mmmm
I feel like they're different enough for me to not really mind. I think alasa and wile have different meanings in the way I use them, at least
alasa li seme
alasa for me is to actively search / try / look for, while wile is a bit more passive
the precursor of alasa
so I don't find much overlap except for "they have needs at their core"
sorry I’m just kind of weird and quirky
and slightly miffed
trying to control myself so I’m putting my vitriol onto the words meso and lanpan like I normally do
GOD
I SAW "KON SELI MESO" AND I WAS LIKE
hhrfrfr hrhfrhfh r rhfhrhrfhrfr <- self control max
lon a
I can't interact with this anymore 😭
lmaooo
so I put my Good ideas into gisi gisi
yeah using peto strikes me dead
lon!
silen alasa connection
alasa is different from wile in that there is a hunting towards the goal
silen is a path to a point
silen can mean journey i think
maybe it needs a little establishing first? maybe not
very true
also what the hell that's mute mute
that’s an interesting metaphor but ultimately feels a bit farfetched
I also think a lot of words are pretty okay in their semantic spaces
For now
But I do have others that I am like hmmm
But ah that's tomorrow work
do tell
Besides 'alapa, I can't really think much of others
I think m,ostly because they're new
So they're in the "let's put them in a situation" environment for now
we kind of just picked 'alapa up and gently set it down because we were like "ohhh so it's kon..ok
i asked nonex if we had a word for change (transformation) vs change (sili) and ssshe le asked me to bring it up here
alssso haiiiiiiii
i am here , tonight
pukis Penpu
ive just kind of been teetering on framing every transformation as a sili of sorts in tandem with my experimentation of sili as time passage
we dont know gisi gisi well enough ssso every time i see pukis i read it in the sssame way i'd read
TRUEE
i don't think we have just a plain ol change yet i feel like were in the middle of an ante splitter between sili and other things potentially to come
Yeah maybe
Change can be a good word but it may also come from other secret words yet to dis cover
we already have a word for expand rather than just a word for big or new
mhm nods
'uge
[Reply to:](#1220981267076481077 message) we dont know gisi gisi well enough ssso every time i see pukis i read it in the sssame way i'd read 📎
PUKISSSS
'uge si pukis
my dumbass really was for a split second thinking "Wait isn't white hands a song by C418" <- thinking of wet hands
LOL....
pokemon top 10 creept pasta -> the hand with 0 things
i forget 
[Reply to:](#1220981267076481077 message) what are you thinking of using change for btw
i wonder if i can use the 38 words we have to circumlocution saying a variety of things by just making really bad and vague analogies
we have been doing that tbh
nonex just mentioned how i could contribute wordsss if i'd like , and i was trying to think of what sorts of areas gisi gisi doesssn't cover yet .
(think washing dishes is hard - VE'KHUN'TH'I - good change will not come)
pukis Penpu doing the real jobs tbh
KHUN'T ???
v cunty me when
on that gisi gisi grindsset
washing dishes is hard - kipa pagkan kusi si sili - the tool's lack of freshness is growing spores
a lot of things would be fixed if we had pona and ike but we're in sili gisi
I honestly trhink we should just include pona and ike for now
As like placeholder words
true.
Because again I feel like. They're concepts that stand on themselves
in terms of like real development though i suggested that we implant another philosophy into it in place of simple/complex
she said natural/artificial
i was s thinking about that . . . t hinking of wordss like that
Imo I think that going natural vs artificial is kind of. Icky?? to me
for some reason ssupa/leko came to mind . i thought about how you dont often find supalike things in nature
smooth/jaggy for pona ike is doing bizarre things to my mind
TRUE
oh fuik thatss me
we'll just have pona ike for now then
Like I feel like this is a good distinction to make, but not for pona ike
puna ike for assimilation
yeah real
imagine i replied 2 this
to be fair like 2 messages afterwards she was like "so we can make menu ike let's go"
which makes me think either it was a bit the whole time or she thought about it for 5 more seconds and went "maybe we don't want menu to be ike actually. maybe i should point out itd absurdity by making a joke about it
but like yah
menu is kinda ike though. So erm. sorry Ka'i. Gonna have 2 vote u off.
sssociety or some thing
FUCKK
SSSOCIETY

pukis
the joker in gisi gisi be like menu 'i menu si leme magi
on the side of natural/unnatural i kind of want to say harmonious/whatever the opposite is
because we have tree hugging dwarf words and we have sili which describes every process of decay in a completely neutral manner
mmmmmmmm
isn't harmonious kepa already
well like
patterned i think
but that kinds harmony
disssonant , conflicting , out of place ❓
[Reply to:](#1220981267076481077 message) on the side of natural/unnatural i kind of want to say harmonious/whatever the opposite is
in some senses of it yeah it is kepa, and jasima is also coming up
which is why i was like "n.. ill see what the girlies think
we are music brained . i see opposite of harmony and think of disssonance
truuye
there iss a better word but we are sleepy !
I just get really leme nasa when I see subjective words being paired with non subjective
^ having leme nasa
ywea
i should do my mindkiller bit again with the like 2 newfound words and grammatical constructions since then and see if anything's changed
the waht
ka 'ispi 'uge si sigka'i kipa. sigka'i 'i menu si magi. sigka'i si las'e ka sili kipa sagke. 'uge ka 'ispi sigka'i. 'a'e ka sesli 'uge ka silen 'uge. 'uge ka 'ispi 'alapa silen. 'a'e si kipa ka ka nesku si kipa. sili gisi 'ispi si.
not much
ok thinks really hard
no word for active processing or perceiving yet (im thinking of that for a sona in the future, will tinker with another day
replaced ike near the beginning with magi
so this is now exclusively words that were solidly good on
how does ka chaining work
is it like pi chaining or is it like
2 different preps
2 preps tawa mi
nods
||I should stop expanding. Growth dulls people. Growth begins an deterioration that removes energy/life. I am of growth only (?). It is with/at/on me and through me. I am only of my soul. If it disappears, things disappear. The unique growth of language si-||
I think I'm confused on the 'uge ka X Y' constructions
||i must not grow. growing weakens man. growing is the egg that leads to annihilation of life. i will focus on the growth. the growth will go inside and through me. i will focus on the essence of its path. when it's gone, everything will be gone. only sili gisi will be.||
it's a ||fear is the mindkiller bit but about how we dont sili gisi||
'ispi taso and kolisin suggested blank si as a replacement for li lon
perhaps 'uge si leme ka 'ispi sigka'i?
||i will feel focusing on the growth = i will face my growth||
yeah
sagke/magi overlap should be written out more (proceeds do not do it because it's so so hard
most sagke kipa things are a little bit magi
when writing the suggestion for magi i listed being very anxious as a sagke kipa that isn't magi
though it could definitely magi you on the outside
well and also things can be magi or not in a way that's unrelated to their animacy
i should also admit that in the "inactive, static" definition i was thinking of rocks
a robot that has batteries is sagke, a robot that doesn't is magi, to a robot these two states are antonymic
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm interesting
so magi IS antonymic to sagke in that one indicates stasis and the other indicates motion
maybe them being antonyms will be Fine Actually maybe not nobody knows
awen
awenm
nnnn rubs temples hard
paka is another word that's strange
tawa mi
like in the semantic space sphere
m!
paka i read as activity / velocity
moving strongly as well as more metaphorically spreading
wind can be paka when it's a moving force and 'alapa when it's an invisible force
paka itself is motion, not air
tawa mi
kemu si magiii kemu si magiiii
playground tonite
oh actually sagke/paka now that i think about it
in the sagke bit you said (paraphrased) a ball can be like "loaned" sagke by the hand that's throwing it
so is there a difference in calling this ball sagke or paka
puts my hands up to my temples and a lightbulb going out is heard
I think that sagke is what moves the paka
loooooove i am gona grab your ssscruff and drag you to supa lape
potential energy to kinetic energy... or like internal packed energy to external expression...?
But right unhh my list of things:
- Etymology for missing word(s)
- Semantic space chart to see how it's Going
- Revise semantic spaces of existing words
- What is missing? Compare to toki pona perhaps
- words..... um. systems we have set in place anbd chceck
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im goinnggg
youre gonna get so leme'd tomorrow
alssso i am very sorry we have not been too engaged with pali toki talk - i think you are all much sssmarter in that regard , so it is hard to have much contribution , a a
i think a part is def that you haven't played around with it
we are here for moral sssupport
Yeah you haven't polayed around. o play.
that isss very true
gay ass pukis
we've been ssso sleepy , though ... it is hard a a
pukis Penpu smiling and frowning based on how strugglous the gisi is
like a carbon monoxide canary
i need to sit down one day and jussst say extremely simple thingsss with gisi gisi to get the gisi gist of it
eexaaaaaaaactly 
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gay ass 'askalis
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is it 'askalis or 'askali ? the former is on the google ssheet .
ahgh
faildog !!!!!!!!
grabing u by the scruf dat is enoug
aacchhk
grabbing you by the tail to be honest
we need to gisimaxx.
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namunen ka sesli 'askulis Nunaku si kales mukaski si magi kipa
'askalis i mean.
g 'a'e si magi kipa
g kusi 'a'e si magi kipa ka ka namunen si kales
ooh. following the "sagke just kind of hangs out and only Externalizes as paka" thread
a phone that's turned off is magi but also sagke
maybe a person being kept alive in an ice cube is also magi and sagke
like they Do totally have animating force, in fact it's kind of the entire point to keep the animating force, but also they're being chucked in the fridge for another day rn
magi additional translation dormant
ka 'ispi kemu 'i leme ike sigka'i si kipa. leme 'ispi: kemu 'i kusi las'e sigka'i si esun ka ka ken! pona! kales pipi pes las'e sigka'i pes poki! SIGKA'I SI LEME ❤️ SIGKA'I SI LEME ❤️ SIGKA'I SI LEME ❤️
'uge 'i gisi menu si kipa. 'uge 'i nesku 'i lus 'i kepa 'a'e si leme 'ispi
omg same
polluting / corruption / something was the word he was looking for ithinks :
some thing both Out of place and harmful as a result ❓ idk
regwhghv
iam just saying words take wat sounds interesting and leave da rest z z
😭
for REAL
guess we'll never know ....
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vietnamese NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AH
oh fuck thank god i was so scared
the ilo teeters up to you and its speaker goes "vietnamese NOW !!!!" before it disables you with a sickly green ray
DBHJKDJHBGDSVJHGDHGVF
oh yeah i also say the plosives unaspirated in tp
me 2
we don't have that ejective shit in spanish
🤝
I have been watching this video and the wikipedia page and the e and ê seem slightly different from how she says it and how the phonology appears there?? do u urself pronounce ê like [e] and e like [ɛ]
cuz in the video she pronounces e more like [æ]
e like gisi gisi e
yeah i do ɛ probably
definitely don't do the same thing i do with the english a at least
æ
nods nods
DAMN U GOT RETROFLEX T
for REAL
WE DO????
i do it exactly how the wikipedia guy says [t] it might be a difference in accent
aa nods nods yeah im a northerner unfortunately
🫵 no retroflex plosive
communist dialect
this is also very funny to look at because it kind of highlights some of our. phoneme pairs? that teachers try to inforce but nobody actually follows, like the english /tr/ to [tʃr] pipeline
this ONLY lists [s] but our teachers talked a lot about <x> being /s/ (the Light s) and <s> being like, some other sound further back that i don't remember
it might be a ʃ?
hm
same thing with ch and tr, the second one is Supposed to have a r after it but we don't really do it unless we need to emphasize to specify a mishearing or something
tag yourself I’m a muhchore
uh yeah same i think
geckobone voice reveal btw
Voice reveal.... for giu....
sorry for the vile quality byw im outside in the wind at 4am
its so hard for me vhatroom
"I'm under the harsh sun rn"
"I'm at the leaping ants forest"
And now we have "I'm in the 4 am wind"
YES
FDAKNSJHDAJHBSGDAVHGFSD
GODDDDDDDDDDDD
Guys should I ditch German and learn vietnamese y/n
yeah of course
i think i muight go to bed now
goodnight 😭
itsso over for you rn
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semantic space analyis and structure tonight?? venn diagram tonight queen?? sili gisi ??? 👀
sighs and nods
but mi lapeeee :(
i haven't been lapeing the whole time ive been looking at sona musi getting my blood pressure raised
im such a lape girl
ka 'ispi kemu si magiiiiiiiii ka 'ispi kemu si magiiiii
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ni
o ni
ill do it in a bit i gota kama sin
🥺 sama musi Manka
LONNNN
mu kiwen
any wy . Today . today i want to put a little time into properly trying to learn some gisi gisi
rgrrrrrrrrrrr
DKJNHDJHBGDDKJHNDJBHGDBH YAYYY
GISIIII GIIISIIII
we're doing gisi las'e right now
oooh dat makes sense : :
kanesu si magi rn if you even care... 'alapa si paka too
🥺 for real
ican kind of get wat you mean by kanesu si magi but ifi may ask wat u mean 'alapa si paka 🥺 rrr
||i thoght u meant full moon because of White but i see the le error of my ways||
||fuck !||
toki pona hood classic
||it does not help thta i checked the moon phases and it was nearly a new moon so i was liek nod nod the moon is off||
a a a
kanesu 'uge si mukaski, magi las'e(?) si ka sesli kanesu
franticaly scrolling up and dwon on gogle sheets paka paka style
YEAH
||the sky is black for me, a beginning faded (new moon but i would've also likely thought cloud) is on it||
ooh i could have phrased this better then i think 
awgrhujdfsbfdgh
iwas trying to say ||the sky is blue, small clouds (i am pretty sure i could phrase it better if i had a kon/telolike word) are in it||
||i did see the other darky words in the same semantic space as blue in mukaski , how shoud i clarify i mean blue . . rur||
mukaski lus?
though the sky isn't usually that mukaski
for context wren i was thinking of blueberries and plums and deep oceans when making mukaski
a daytime sky is more pagkan
maybe a sunrise sky is more of a mukaski blue? it's a little variable
a pagkan mukaski perhaps
clouds la i called them 'alapa magi once
a mukaski magi... hn
faded wishy washy purplish during sunset and such
ohhhh i
ididnt notice pagkan i just zoned in on the first blue i saw whichwas mukaski
rwrhfbrhg
a a a
dat makes more sense
dat would make more sense in my lawa i think : :
an inbetween kind of average blue coud be mukaski pagkan or pagkan mukaski
i duno ::3
wel miby not ithink pagkan covers blues nicely
not exclusively sky blue
im just le #sily and getting used to gisi gisi
for extra reference here's the objects i think of with the colors, i kinda got quirky with them for fun so they're based in both brightness and hue
- kales: mangoes, clay, fire
- pagkan: leaves, sky
- mukaski: blueberries, plums, beetroot, the magenta pigmentation on some plants
the base idea was going from primary colors ryb to secondary colors
then i tried to extrapolate a pattern from there
iusee i see : roooo
iliek the double purpose coloration or thing way these words can be used
people calling the ocean "the deep blue" come to mind
:]
ithink me stumbvling over clouds also reminded me is ther a way to specify the size of things yet ❓
i gues in some ways yes (pagkan las'e, pagkan sili)
wrfjhbdfsbgh
iwonder if a word for general measurement of something woud be interesting
nods sagely
liek ❓
idk
think suli except if suli was just size
:3 idunjno i dont know how to phrase it
just having a word for size and then describing the way that it is sized sounds fascinating
not just Big or Small
we're already toying with establishing a silen to describe distance/length so that could be cute i think
[suli] las'e ..... [suli] namunen ..... [suli] sesli
stuff like dat
large boulder the size of a small boulder
rubs temples
necessitating a comparative to describe size is fascinating
it might be hard though with like. exactly how big is a namunen
i dunno :3 !
omg singularity
TTRUE !!!!
[crowd cheering] another singularity! another singularity!
i did kind of swing it in the direction of kolisin to use 'ispi to mean narrow
hn...
bla bla context or some thing
