gisi gisi — toki kili pi toki pona tan namako Kolisin | ma pona pi toki pona | Page 5

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 5:56 AM

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but they're like

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Hard on the outside

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 5:56 AM

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lon...

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turtle becoming pukis pipi when

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 5:57 AM

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pipi something something squishy something something selo merger idk

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 5:57 AM

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atomic halo turtle becoming pukis pipi when

LONNN

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This takes me to my next point

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Sphynx cats are [wasoweli] puki

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 5:58 AM

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TRUEE

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moth is pipi wasoweli... dinosaur is pukis wasoweli

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 5:59 AM

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YESSSS YEDS

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 5:59 AM

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using the words to refer to textures is fascinating

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kala-akesi and waso-soweli kind of means we've eliminated separating by living environment

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 5:59 AM

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The gisi gisi community being leme'd after listening to each other talk in 10 minute intervals

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 5:59 AM

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YEAH

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just one thing though is that worms and such

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they're certainly more pipi than pukis but they don't have any shell

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:01 AM

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nods nods I was thinking about that

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:01 AM

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grubs .. caterpillar

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:01 AM

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I think a good definition of pipi is less of the exterior and more opf like. They're all squishy inside. Like they don't have any bo-OMGH HOMESTUCK ]??????

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:01 AM

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NO WAY

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yeah i can fucks with that

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:01 AM

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Like I think that's a

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Weird space to talk about because pipi is so fucking diverse

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:02 AM

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opening up a crab to see its guts is all weird ko-like substances and such

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:02 AM

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Like a sea urchin is pipi and a sand dollar is pipi when they're alive

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but then when they die they are like

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Hard Only

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:02 AM

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snails are the perfect pipi antithesis

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:02 AM

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YES

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I WAS THINKING ABOUT SNALES

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:03 AM

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so over for us tbh

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they're like goop ball but they also have a hard shell just one that doesn't encase them fully?? truly fascinating

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:04 AM

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I think that like

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We can do a little pairing

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:05 AM

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four animal words...?🥺

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that's like One (1) below what toki pona had though which is not much of a change

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:07 AM

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Hu

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No I meant like

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Pair soft squishy inside (boneless) with hard shell outside

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There are very little wasoweli or puki that fit these criteria

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:07 AM

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ohhh like the pipi is defined by two things?

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:07 AM

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Yeah

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Kinda like how pukis is both rough and smooth skinned

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:07 AM

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where will da worms go ...

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worm banished to pukis for a thousand years

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:08 AM

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Worms are pipis because they have soft suqisi inside

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:08 AM

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yrue.

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:08 AM

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Like it can be either or i mean

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:08 AM

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nods nods yeah i get it

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how's the wasoweli etymology hunt btw

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pipi could perhaps recycle the elytra word

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:09 AM

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ohhh hthinks about it

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the etymnology hunt is going poorly (i was minecrafting with gwayin)

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But I am thinking like

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:09 AM

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gwayin...

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:09 AM

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Dragons are mythical creatures that are present in many cultures

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And they can be very pukis in both sense

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But I don't want to be like

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The Gryphon haha

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So I've been thinkign about it good

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:10 AM

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true .. real life wasoweli

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:10 AM

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Also thinking about this one fucking

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Egyptian animal now

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It's so fucked up i need to find it

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I cant fucking FIND it

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:25 AM

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OWNED

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what was it like though

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:25 AM

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It's like

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U know how the set animal is a fucked up aniaml nobody knows what itis

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It was like that but more obscure +

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I think it maybe looked like a camel with a long neck ???? like longer

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idk

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or maybe bigger body

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it was like a big mound with a long neck i think

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WAIT

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I THINK I FOUND IT

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:34 AM

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rubbing my hands together in anticipation

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:38 AM

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Hm

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Some fucking page of cryptid dot com called them "sta" but I literally Can't find that anywhere els.e What i have found are "serpopards"

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpopard

Serpopard

The serpopard is a mythical animal known from ancient Egyptian and Mesopotamian art. The word "serpopard" is a modern coinage. It is a portmanteau of "serpent" and "leopard", derived from the interpretation that the creature represents an animal with the body of a leopard and the long neck and head of a serpent. However, they have also been inte...

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Which are what I think I was looking for

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:40 AM

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TRUE

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:40 AM

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Thsi is so fucked up

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:40 AM

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serpopard is such a goofy name

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:40 AM

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There is no known name in any ancient texts so we're gonna give them the goofiest name possible

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:41 AM

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the two components also make me imagine pronouncing it sɚ.'pɛp.ɚd

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sepa perhaps?

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:44 AM

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Mmm

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I don't know if I like it doe

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It's like

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wasoweli puki

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I was looking into gryphons because like apparently they're Not just Europe

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Which has rekindled my interest

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I am jiust looking for a creature that like

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Exists in various cultures but also isn't like

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hee hee ur deity is now Mine

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 6:48 AM

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lon...

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 6:48 AM

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Likje

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Quetzalcoatl is arguably a dragon which I think is interesting

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Because like lung dragons are dragons and quetzalcoatl, while a feathered snake, is

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Long and fuzzy patterns

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 7:00 AM

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TWO whole words with dragon etymology this is why gisi gisi best tokiponido

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 7:09 AM

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Anyway while I search for it I think these are good beast trifecta :

[wasoweli]: animals with a fuzzy exterior. This is mostly feathers and fur but it can also be other descriptors of similar nature. Most of them capable of retaining their own body heat.
pukis: animals with either a rough (scaly, bumpy, warty, scute-y, etc.) skin or smooth (slick or slimy) skin. Unlike [wasoweli], most of them can't regulate their body temperature. A big chunk of them are related to water environments, whether it be to reproduce or to live
[pipi]: Animals that have squishy, slimy interiors or that have hard, rock-like skins or shells that protect their bodies. Unlike [wasoweli] and pukis, these animals will most of the time lack any internal skeletons, as their outer shells fill that protective role. Another characteristic is that they're usually small in size compared to other animals

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 8:02 AM

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hell yeah

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too lazy to look for etymology can we just make magi white

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h nnnghgg but magi has the inactivity set of definitions that doesn't have anything to do with white

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 8:41 AM

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mmnmnm

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yeah I don't know how magi can be specifically white??

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I imagine it as less saturated. Gray even. but not... white

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magi maybe needs a bit more exploring ka leme 'uge

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We know it's like

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Low energy kind of thing

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But we haven't rotated it enough like other words

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 8:57 AM

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chilly urchin Anyway while I search for it I think these are good beast trifecta : - [wasowel...

and of course sigka'i

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I'll write a little thingy for sigka'i tomorrow maybe but it's pretty understood already

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:28 AM

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chilly urchin I imagine it as less saturated. Gray even. but not... white

im thinking white could be just desaturation in general

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pale and such

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if something is just Colored Magi it could be an undyed piece of wool

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:29 AM

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Mmmmmmm interesting nods

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Distinction between magi and suno

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:30 AM

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saying bright yellow instead of pale yellow so people think of neon yellow instead kills millions every day

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it could even be magi suno

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with like, the brightness of magi alone being implied from the material

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(often on the light side regardless because we Have pimeja

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mukaski

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im kind of having a dilemma about it where like. the word for white will be either pale coded (and hence should be merged with magi to avoid redundancy of having two whole pale words) or bright coded (bright is usually saturated so this may be nasa)

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we CAN make it just white coded but that would be out of place with all the other colors having additional meanings

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:34 AM

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Nnnnn

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I feel like both magi and some other white/suno coded word can coexist in that

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magi implies a change in default color where another word can imply default

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Like something suno can become magi and vice versa

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Ultimately they're both white but

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This is like a thing we have to explore a lot more I think

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:37 AM

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lon... fucked up how nature do dat

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:38 AM

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Are you walo (light skinned) or magi (suffering from illness)

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:38 AM

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wanna just coin a suno coded white for now and fuck around

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:38 AM

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Gesturing go right ahead

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It's all fun and james.....

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:38 AM

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the curse of etymology. hold on i need google rranslate

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is the spanish word for white swagful

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ive added some of the new words to the sheet btw, the three colors and pukis

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not sure if i missed any

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i guess i could add wasoweli and pipi and just leave their name blank

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:39 AM

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atomic halo is the spanish word for white swagful

Blanco so mmmmnnweeehhh we can probably find a different one.... with a cooler meaning

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:40 AM

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with a cooler meaning too....

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:40 AM

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Like how kales and panke are lush and clay coded

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Uh but in the opposite order

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:41 AM

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OH AND LEME

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:42 AM

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wait is leme color coded

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:43 AM

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leme i feel could describe any external sense as well as meaning affectation, similarly to pilin

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a loud sound or a blinding white screen can leme you

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:43 AM

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Ah yes nods nods

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:44 AM

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it's probably a further gap from it because of the inverted perspective

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:44 AM

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menu Leme

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:45 AM

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but like, leme [lukin]

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LON

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:45 AM

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magnum opus joke

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:45 AM

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really good

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:45 AM

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atomic halo but like, leme [lukin]

flashbabg

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Nods nods nods

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:46 AM

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is latin white album??? why is she doing that.

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from Latin, neuter of albus ‘white’ used as a noun meaning ‘a blank tablet’. Taken into English from the German use of the Latin phrase album amicorum ‘album of friends’ (a blank book in which autographs, drawings, poems, etc. were collected), it was originally used consciously as a Latin word.

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:47 AM

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mitski

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OH

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Oh qait

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Not as fun fact

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It's called albumin in English too

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My b

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Will be more fun next time 💔

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:48 AM

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embarrassing...

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i should also note that leme's influence meaning is very much affected by the idea i mentioned earlier of like reality heeding to the will of the individual in a really like surreal mythy way

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so you should imagine me thinking of leme as like the object is radiating vibes through its properties

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or something

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:50 AM

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Pie making you float to the windowsill

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:51 AM

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atomic halo i should also note that leme's influence meaning is very much affected by the id...

i never got over the spells in hylics being gestures, like there's something about the idea of like symbolic acts and mimicking the flow of things with your hands will actually bend reality and kill people dead because youre in a fairytale space where physicality heeds to the symbolism

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:51 AM

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YES

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Hylics spells are leme [hand]

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:51 AM

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THEY AREEE

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they're so good im forever obsessed with them

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:52 AM

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I love how varied they are too like

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Somsnosa being all elegant and shit with the wave one in H2

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And then Pongorma's lightning is just "what if I killed you"

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:52 AM

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YEA

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pongorma points at you menacingly and you fuckign die

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:53 AM

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menu Ka'i activating my neurodivergent switches left and right

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:53 AM

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im hitting allll the themes and symbolism buttons

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:54 AM

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I'm so excited for the hylics 3 odozierussy game

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:54 AM

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hozierussy

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:58 AM

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NO!!! THAT'S NOT HYLIC MAN

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:58 AM

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despair

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:59 AM

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Wayne and Gibby in gisi gisi be like ummmmm mnmsnmmmd I don't know we don't have names for small and big but like waning is diminishing so like ummgngngbmf Neskili and Sigkesku

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Wait not nesku

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Kanesu

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:59 AM

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FOR REALL

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:59 AM

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fcuk

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Kanesili and Sigkanesu

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 9:59 AM

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names unironically go hard too tbh

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:00 AM

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Oh no

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I forgot the name of the cunty- DEDUSMULN

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:02 AM

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ọcha is an igbu word for white theres no spelling on wiktionary

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YOU FORGOT DEDUSMULNN ITS OVER FOR YOU

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:02 AM

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Dedusmuln's design in H2 is so good because he's a gay little archeologist but he HAS to dress like he's a dainty French fencer

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:02 AM

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there's no pronunciation on wiktoonary i mean

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he's so cool

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:02 AM

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atomic halo ọcha is an igbu word for white theres no spelling on wiktionary

Time 2 look up phonology....

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:03 AM

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atomic halo he's so cool

Me about to say "Erm actually they never refer to them with gendered pronouns" but realizing I said "he" and putting a dollar in the misgendering jar

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Anyway tell me more about ur fucked up Word

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:06 AM

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chilly urchin Me about to say "Erm actually they never refer to them with gendered pronouns" b...

LOLL

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it's so hard nunaku

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fari in hausa means both white and good though

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:08 AM

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interrsingn

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Also I gotta go bed so soon I am up too late but I want to say I really like the sort of deconstructions for the colors and ka

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:10 AM

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ווייַס
from yiddish

(YIVO, Litvish) IPA(key): /vaɪ̯s/
(Poylish) IPA(key): /vaːs/
(Ukrainish) IPA(key): /vas/

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pa'is / pas perhaps

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:10 AM

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chilly urchin Also I gotta go bed so soon I am up too late but I want to say I really like the...

herhehe

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goodniight

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:11 AM

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atomic halo ווייַס from yiddish > (YIVO, Litvish) IPA(key): /vaɪ̯s/ > (Poylish) IPA(key): /v...

Interesting..... pa'is like from country in Spanish

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Also I really want to follow the like mystical creature naming convention for pipi too but I need to find the slayest pipi creature out there

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:11 AM

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oh have you settled on one for wasoweli

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:12 AM

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Twirls my hair we're talking about ur white color endeavors sweetie 👵

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:13 AM

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walo..walo

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:13 AM

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I'm ss sorry r y yyy sobbing crying exploding I overthjnk words ehdjwjdjw tomorrow I'm free so I will gisimaxx

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:16 AM

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what is the curve underneath the letter diacritic.

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:16 AM

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the huh

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oh ummmm

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Breve?

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But underneath....

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:17 AM

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"non-syllabic"

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what does th what does that mean

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:18 AM

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What are u reading

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:18 AM

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placed under the less prominent part of a diphthong to show that it is part of a diphthong rather than a vowel in a separate syllable

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:18 AM

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atomic halo ווייַס from yiddish > (YIVO, Litvish) IPA(key): /vaɪ̯s/ > (Poylish) IPA(key): /v...

i was looking at the thing under the i here

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:18 AM

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Ohhhh

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Inverted breve

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:19 AM

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would pa'as be silly a a

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i would just do pas but im worried for the pes minimal pair

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it's probably just like ko/kon it's probably fine

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:20 AM

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Have u heard a pronunciation yet or

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:20 AM

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i only have my darling wiktionary key to yiddish pronunciation

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there's probably a really cool website that pronounces everything somewhere but im on my phone and the internet sucks here

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:21 AM

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Also would this be pais or peis. Because the fucking e and a trip me up a bit some time.... and a is closer to an aouh than ae

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Yeah dw ensjwjekw

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Ohhgghhhh I am getting hit with schleeper ray I think I am gonna go mimimi.... 2morrow we can check this doe >:] goodnight and goodlucj

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:23 AM

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a oh that's where the [a] is in the chart

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that's very front

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that's totally e okay yeah

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pes FUCKKK

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no more yiddish.

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:25 AM

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atomic halo a oh that's where the [a] is in the chart

i was mixed up because the english vowel symbols are like Different a a

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Greek άσπρο? espu?

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gisi Espulagku

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yeah sure

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espu - white, pale color, light, illumination, glow
< Greek άσπρο

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espu kales - candlelight

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gisi gisi would hate neon lights

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kanesu espu si kipa. 'alapa espu ka sili mukaski magi. paka 'i pukis si leme [lete]. pukis ka paka sesli teles ka kipa kanesu.

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:03 AM

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[telo] ka kepa mukaski si paka..?

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mukaski feels so wrong for gray a a a

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espu silen si ka sesli kanesu mukaski. leme [kute] 'i sili ka kepa espu si [wile]

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ooh. or actually leme [kute] si sigka'i ka las'e espu

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:26 AM

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yeah!!

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:28 AM

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im slaying. hi kulisin i made a white word im going to add it to the sheets shortly and also list the pros and cons because its in a kind of tentative state rn

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its a bit sili kipa

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:36 AM

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owo?

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sili kipa is fine, antonyms are cool

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mi o pali e gisi ni:

ni/taso/tokana
jasima
leaf
flower
mustelid + mephitid
spice

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:39 AM

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leaf!!!!

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what are you planning with jasima

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:39 AM

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something that actually uses its tenuous “opposite of X” usage

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also because i think it’s a cool word

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:40 AM

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finally. jasima utala merger

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:40 AM

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remote junco mi o pali e gisi ni: - ni/taso/tokana - jasima - leaf - flower - mustelid + meph...

oh and also flavor words

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sili could be bitter now that i think about it

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:40 AM

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so real actually

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though sour is another good option

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:41 AM

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oh true!!

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:41 AM

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maybe both the quote unquote Unpleasant tastes

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:41 AM

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why separate them tbhh

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:41 AM

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cheese pungency is sili

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:41 AM

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atomic halo maybe both the quote unquote Unpleasant tastes

lawa sama

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:41 AM

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our minds.

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:42 AM

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now we need sweet, savory, and salty

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although i can think of a few more taste experiences that aren’t the just taste buds per se e.g. spiciness, creaminess

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:44 AM

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we could just leave these in the back of our heads and wait for gisigka'i that happen to fit

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:44 AM

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true!

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:45 AM

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when are we getting pona and ike btw

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it's easy to Technically change their semantic spaces by just removing the simple and complex stuff

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though maybe we could infuse another philosophy into them in its place?

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sigka'i si sili ka leme [uta] 'uge btw

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or sigka'i 'i uta 'uge si leme sili

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:50 AM

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pona being natural perhaps

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~~with menu also being tweaked to add manmade, this means it can become ike~~

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:50 AM

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the people crave natural / artificial nimisin

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:52 AM

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I swear there was another word i started seeing people trying to make

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i think it was a word for “happen”??

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:54 AM

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a a yeah i remember happen

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we quickly blasted it to shreds afterwards

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:55 AM

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because it’s just “exist” but for events

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using gisi las’e for hello perhaps??

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:57 AM

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lonnnn

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egg talk

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:57 AM

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blaming

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:58 AM

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YEAH

wispy tendonBOT Apr 5, 2024, 1:11 PM

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they should make a musi that is

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waaait.... powe word? powe musi merger?

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is that too much that might be too much

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 1:27 PM

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fuckers put them back in the cage

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we need to sili our gisi.

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 2:29 PM

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m 'uge si sigka'i kipa. sigka'i si las'e ka sili kipa sagke. 'uge ka [jasima] sigka'i. 'a'e ka sesli 'uge ka silen 'uge. 'uge 'i namunen magi si [sona]. sigka'i si kipa la kipa. sili gisi [taso].

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 2:29 PM

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that’s just kana smh

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 2:30 PM

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lon...

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 2:31 PM

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kipa la kipa
sili gisi [taso]
¿g?

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 2:31 PM

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a a a a

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i turned on tp brain for a sec and forgot we had ka ka

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second one is because we don't have li lon yet

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 2:33 PM

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atomic halo i turned on tp brain for a sec and forgot we had ka ka

lol

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 2:33 PM

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atomic halo second one is because we don't have li lon yet

what were you trying to say?

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 2:33 PM

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only sili gisi will remain

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 2:33 PM

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ahh

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that sounds more like «sili gisi [taso] si nesku»

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using guillemots in namunen Lakina perhaps

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 2:35 PM

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si nesku... rubs temples

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 2:35 PM

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or even just «sili gisi [taso] si»

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 2:35 PM

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so true

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 2:35 PM

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those are just some ideas for the time being

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 2:40 PM

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good lord i overused ka predicates so much now that i read it over again

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testament to them being good i guess

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 2:41 PM

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true!

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ka is a good gal

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 2:41 PM

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elevating to la phrase levels of overuse

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it's also interesting i think because it kind of like

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takes up the "ona li X e mi" role

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like 'a'e 'i 'uge si sesli 'a'e becomes 'a'e ka sesli 'uge

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 2:43 PM

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interesting!

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 2:44 PM

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sigka'i si las'e si kipa sagke ka silen sili (or something) becomes sigka'i si las'e ka sili kipa sagke

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it's free framing device

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 4:39 PM

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‘ispi (from Hebrew הִצְבִּיעַ “to point at”) — (demonstrative pronoun), just, only, specific, to focus on

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might change the actual word

flat wharf Apr 5, 2024, 4:44 PM

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what is ka ’ispi

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maybe like toki pona la but a preposition

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or like “regarding X”

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 5:07 PM

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toki pona la is ka ka

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ka ‘ispi ≈ …gah i just had an idea for this a second ago

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 7:38 PM

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hi chat i am braining so hard rn

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weill come back 2 u guys with developments iona bit

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with like

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both word + oopinion

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 9:09 PM

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Ok I think the word for wasoweli is going to be a word for griffin

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I have a few options I'm pondering

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Finnish: Aarnikotka or vaakalintu. Each of them is a combination of two words, although neither make a reference to a mammal side. The first one is treasure eagle, the second one is... scales bird?? Like a weighing scale
Persian: شیردال [ʃeːɾ.ˈdɑːl] meaning literally lion-eagle
Armenian: արծվառյուծ [ɑɾt͡svɑrˈjut͡s] or [ɑɾd͡zvɑˈɾʏd͡z]. Again lion eagle

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'anikoka... si'alu.... 'ansagus... 'askalis....

lucid bay Apr 5, 2024, 10:09 PM

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https://www.tumblr.com/calocera/746065976003559424 wasoweli sigka'i

Tumblr

calocera

my pet mold spore

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:09 PM

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KNDJHDABKJHNDASBJGHADEDEABHJKGADVGHFSADDASJHGBDAEHGVFDEAFHGADS

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WJHAT THE FUCK ‼️

lucid bay Apr 5, 2024, 10:10 PM

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chilly urchin 'anikoka... si'alu.... 'ansagus... 'askalis....

ithink 'askalis is my favorite of these musawi

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'askalis sigka'i

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:19 PM

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holding my head because we already have an armenian word

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we do have duplicates of language origins dthough so

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yenno

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zrugs

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 10:22 PM

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I think it’s fine Armenian is a fruity language

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 10:23 PM

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lucid bay https://www.tumblr.com/calocera/746065976003559424 wasoweli sigka'i

this dog is fucked up

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:23 PM

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remote junco I think it’s fine Armenian is a fruity language

WHAT DOES THIS MEAAAANNN

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Anyway yeah I like 'askalis

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We need more 'V words btw

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 10:23 PM

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YEAH

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:23 PM

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We yearn for vowels

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Added to the sheets

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 10:25 PM

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freak in the sheets

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:38 PM

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'askalis!!! 'ispi!!!

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 10:39 PM

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welcome back

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:39 PM

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'uge si

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 10:40 PM

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kemu si

lucid bay Apr 5, 2024, 10:41 PM

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'ispi g zsoweli ❓

lucid bay Apr 5, 2024, 10:41 PM

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remote junco **‘ispi** (from Hebrew הִצְבִּיעַ “to point at”) — (demonstrative pronoun), just...

ooh

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:43 PM

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i think that pleasant and unpleasant could have their own words.... it's like so subjective what the experience is that I am like poking it with a stick trying to not make it touch any of the other foods on the plate

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Like I can't think where you could ascribe good or bad because it's like. Weird. To do that a bit. Like I feel like those are some ultimate subjective words

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:45 PM

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ka 'ispi i said a while ago could mean "as opposed to" like a break in a pattern

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though when you said you also wanted a jasima word its stewing in my mind

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'ispi jasima - exception to the rule?

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:45 PM

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is 'isipi a sort of taso merger

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as well

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'ispi -> this
'ispi 'ispi -> this (exclusive)

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:46 PM

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im imagining it like singling out a small part of a whole, which could just be because youre looking at it specifically or because it is itself nasa or noteworthy

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:47 PM

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'ispi 'ispi 'ispi -> do NOT look at ANYTHING else I am WARNING you

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:47 PM

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will have to fuck around with it more for sure

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:47 PM

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nods nods nods

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Also the thing of the bitter and sour stuff reminded me of this

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#

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look at them

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:50 PM

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us making gisi gisi

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:50 PM

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TRUEEEE

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But yeah overall I think those are the two words that Should Not overlap in semantic space with anything else. Or if anything, whatever they overlap should be similarly subjective

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:52 PM

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yeayea i don't think sili should describe All unpleasant flavors

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i mean theyre both flavors we usually consider unpleasant or an acquired taste

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sharp, bitter, sour, pungent (neutral)

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:53 PM

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No yeah those are like

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Flavors

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It makes sense to call them that because things you age seldom have a flavor outside of that profile

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But if you add ike to that I'm going to go pukis mode and namunen all ogver the place

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 10:55 PM

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a a a

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'askalis is such a dramatic word for what it is btw it's really funny

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check out my 'askalis then it zooms to a chihuahua with a hawk protection vest thing

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 10:59 PM

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DNKJHDDBJHGGHVD

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:03 PM

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hmm. 'askalis kanesu si paka ka 'ispi pukis

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the hawk follows / circles around the lizard

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silen si 'ispi - the hallway is narrow?

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menu 'ispi si gisi leme - the central person speaks convincingly

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:08 PM

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gisi ka nesku 'askalis kanesu 'i magi 'uge si leme

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:10 PM

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||bird conversation affects my timidity||

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:11 PM

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nods nods. though perhaps sagke after leme

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:12 PM

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ohhh mi sona

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:12 PM

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Although that can be interpreted as

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"Makes my dullness/timidity/stagnancy grow stronger" which is like the opposite of what I meant. maybe just kipa

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but sometimes it do be 'i magi si leme sagke

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:13 PM

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i like that the direct object is magi not 'uge it briefly made me think of a world where your magi is a parasite that youre hypnotizing with bird talk

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:15 PM

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It be like that sometimes

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:15 PM

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it really do...

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magi ka leme namunen leme - art block

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ooh, 'uge si magi ka 'ispi namunen leme - i have a weakness concentrated on my art

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a weakness that taso-ly applies to my art

flat wharf Apr 5, 2024, 11:20 PM

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so ka 'ispi X is like "specifically regarding X"

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:20 PM

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‘ispi is a fun word

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:20 PM

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it could be! that could make it the vocative as well

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:20 PM

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ooo

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:20 PM

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im just playing around with what it could be rn

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ka 'ispi menu Ka'i pes... -> [points at Kali] rest of sentence

flat wharf Apr 5, 2024, 11:21 PM

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so kind of a non-grammaticalized vocative

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:21 PM

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isipin

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this is better than ka gisi methinks

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:21 PM

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nods

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:22 PM

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atomic halo ka 'ispi menu Ka'i pes... -> [points at Kali] rest of sentence

why the pes here though

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like at the end

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:22 PM

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vocative sentence needs a subject marker

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to separate it from the ka phrase

flat wharf Apr 5, 2024, 11:22 PM

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wait crazy idea what about ka kemu for vocative

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:23 PM

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the sona pona page currently lists this construction but ka gisi instead of ka 'ispi

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:23 PM

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flat wharf wait crazy idea what about ka kemu for vocative

hmm I could see this

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:23 PM

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ka kemu .....

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:23 PM

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hmmm....

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:23 PM

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ka kemu Y - framing Y as the listener

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:23 PM

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ka kemu....

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ponders it....

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ooohh interesotng

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:24 PM

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that would make it A Special Construction which i think could serve

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:24 PM

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chilly urchin why the pes here though

my dumbass was treating it as imperative

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That's why I was so confused

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:24 PM

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like how ka ka is la and ignores all the other rules of how ka works

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:25 PM

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chilly urchin my dumbass was treating it as imperative

OHHH lol

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:25 PM

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ka is our strongest soldier

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:25 PM

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so tell

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so real*

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:25 PM

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factual

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imperative could be ka ‘ispi perhaps

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:26 PM

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trueee

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:27 PM

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remote junco imperative could be ka ‘ispi perhaps

Yeah I think that that was why I thought it was imperative

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Because it gave off Vibes

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:27 PM

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ka 'ispi menu Ka'i pes si...? it would kind of not make sense to put a subject there since it's already specified in the ka phrase

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:27 PM

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ka 'ispi pes ?

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That's so weird

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:28 PM

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atomic halo ka 'ispi menu Ka'i pes si...? it would kind of not make sense to put a subject t...

nodding

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:28 PM

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ka 'ispi menu Ka'i si? just no subject or marker altogether, though a different way to analyze it is that you're preceding the subject with ka 'ispi

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:29 PM

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mmmm

flat wharf Apr 5, 2024, 11:31 PM

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atomic halo ka kemu Y - framing Y as the listener

maybe a similar thing with ka ‘a’e and ka ‘uge

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:31 PM

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side note do you guys think it would be so funny if moku was assimilate as well (dungeon meshi brainworm

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kulupu li moku e mi - the community accepted me as one of their own

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:33 PM

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atomic halo side note do you guys think it would be so funny if moku was assimilate as well ...

points. dungeon meshi brainworm

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:33 PM

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this is a very like. abstract one that might be hard in practice but im tossing ideas out

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moku means consumption means taking something to integrate into / fuel yourself

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:33 PM

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i think... it makes sense. Like in the sense of taking something, placing it inside of something esle, and making that something change

flat wharf Apr 5, 2024, 11:33 PM

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this is interesting

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:33 PM

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Like

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:33 PM

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menu cyborg 'i kusi si moku

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:34 PM

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oxidization is a kind of moku

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ilo li moku e kon la ona li kama loje

flat wharf Apr 5, 2024, 11:34 PM

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kiwen li moku e kon li kama loje

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:34 PM

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lon...

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:34 PM

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nods nods very good very interesting

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this also has more fucked up sematic spaces like

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cemetery li moku e coffin la ona li sigka'i

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:36 PM

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TRUE

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nimisin li moku e other semantic spaces

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:36 PM

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can moku perchance be integration that has an effect onto something. like there's moku that doesn't necessarily benefit you

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like if you eat snow you dehydrate

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:37 PM

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atomic halo nimisin li moku e other semantic spaces

LONNNN

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:37 PM

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eating snow makes you dehydrate??

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:37 PM

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Yeah so snow is so cold that your body needs energy to process it into liquid right

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But the energy used to turn the snow into a liquid (the heating process) uses water for the metabolism

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And that usage of water outweighs the one you would have gotten from the snow

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So it's advised that if you're lost and do need to eat snow because you don't have water or whatever you melt it first

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:38 PM

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that's so fucked up

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my one concern regarding moku is that it's also like a wan that's esoteric and difficult to use

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:39 PM

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mmmmmmm

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interesting

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how so

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like why difficult

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:40 PM

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i guess it's because it's in like, a more specific direction??

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:40 PM

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mmm yeah that makes sense

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moku implies that something did something to some other thing

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:40 PM

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chilly urchin So it's advised that if you're lost and do need to eat snow because you don't ha...

this is factual

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:40 PM

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instead of ijo en ijo li wan you have to like wan li moku e ijo

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marriage consumed me and my girlfriend

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just the spirit of marriage itself

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:41 PM

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I didn’t know marriage was spicy like that

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:41 PM

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tbhh

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:42 PM

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I will be back and I will be thinking about moku and wan very much

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:46 PM

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there can also be like questions that change how it shapes up such as

is the thing being moku'd always "smaller" than the subject?
is changing the subject a required outcome of the integration?

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:47 PM

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I don't think it necessarily has to be smaller

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:47 PM

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me when I moku a thing bigger than me

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:47 PM

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then marriage can be mi moku e meli mi

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:47 PM

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But the second one... how can you moku without doing that

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Or m well

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I guess putting something in a box ?

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But it does become heavier

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:47 PM

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lon...

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kusi si kales ka moku 'alapa

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:51 PM

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mm mm

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OHHHH

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that makes more sense

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:51 PM

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HAHA

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:51 PM

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I was like

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:52 PM

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it's so over for us

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when you get buried youre also moku'd by the soil

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in like a cool way where some cultures think of it as you returning to the essence of nature

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:53 PM

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the thinker

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:53 PM

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atomic halo in like a cool way where some cultures think of it as you returning to the essen...

mhm mhm

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:53 PM

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chilly urchin the thinker

sina ni anu seme

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:53 PM

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lon a

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mi

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:55 PM

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for now though... kulisin what's your take on silen si 'ispi - the hallway is narrow

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:55 PM

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sina jo e uta monsuta

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‘ispi for narrow hmmm

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I’ve used silen for slender before

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:56 PM

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lon...

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the carrot

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:56 PM

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indeed, keles silen ‘ispi

atomic halo Apr 5, 2024, 11:56 PM

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yo mama so silen i walked on her from point A to point B

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'ispi could also mean scope in general the same way weka means distance

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'ispi - semantic space?

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this does make it bump in with sesli's potential to mean location / area so im like. thinking about it really hard

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perhaps not

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:58 PM

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‘ispi gisi

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:58 PM

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atomic halo this does make it bump in with sesli's potential to mean location / area so im l...

hm!

remote junco Apr 5, 2024, 11:59 PM

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atomic halo perhaps not

mi pilin sama ni

chilly urchin Apr 5, 2024, 11:59 PM

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Idea. silen = distance as well. Silen is a passageway and a passageway implies that there is a distance between point a to point b

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This does un-lupa it like entirely

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We need to think about distance

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If we want to be enkoded

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 12:00 AM

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i do love the lupaness of it

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but objectively yeah the line from point A to point B is a silen

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 12:02 AM

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thinking really hard

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although i mean

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hm

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silen can perhaps mean distance

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as well as passageway

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but to pair it with like tangible measures

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 12:03 AM

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distance/length is like a quality of silen

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 12:03 AM

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we can use some suli / long id k

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 12:04 AM

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perhaps ‘alapa silen?

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this can both be icicle and distance I realize

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‘alapa can be used for like a quality or essence of something

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 12:06 AM

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Oh right 'alapa. So I think that 'alapa is another word we should think about because I feel like other words include some sort of semantic strangeness and 'alapa is like... unseen presence but also transparency/ice and it feels like... it can be a bit more. Or just I think we haven't exploerd it much as we have with other concepts because we accepted it as it being There because it was one of the like Beginning words

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 12:06 AM

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nimi Kon li kama gisi Paka + gisi ‘Alapa + gisi Gisi

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 12:06 AM

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remote junco ‘alapa can be used for like a quality or essence of something

ohhhh nods

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 12:06 AM

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chilly urchin Oh right 'alapa. So I think that 'alapa is another word we should think about be...

100%

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 12:59 AM

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so we have animal denominations based on texture

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and sigka'i acts as a denomination for small things like algae and moss

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but we still don't have a set vegetable nomenclature

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:10 AM

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we HATE vegetables

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:11 AM

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remote junco ‘alapa can be used for like a quality or essence of something

leme steals from 'alapa it's so over

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:13 AM

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fuck

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I was cooking and I forgot it all

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:13 AM

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sigka'i si kipa despair

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:17 AM

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so like

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ok nvm i thought abt two things at once I nede to write it donw

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:28 AM

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g ka sesli

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:29 AM

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g

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:30 AM

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sina sitelen e ni lon seme

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:32 AM

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Oh like in personal notes or something just to like

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Straighten my brain about what I want 2 talk about haha

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It's notthing concrete

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:32 AM

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aa sona

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:32 AM

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I just think there's holes in the language that we're still like

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Figuring out

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:34 AM

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we need to temper our leme sigka'i and go sili the gisi

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:35 AM

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nods nods

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I will compile thoughts in my notes and get back to yall when I do that

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For now I'll try to find etymology for the pipi word

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:36 AM

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mythology should have more cool bugs in it

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:37 AM

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It has a lot

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I have seen cicadas and praying mantises being talked about for examplle and i like those insects

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But I keep searching

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 1:44 AM

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@wind compass summoning the vixen

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:44 AM

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omgomgomg

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:45 AM

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new gisi giser??

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:45 AM

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perchanceperchance

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:45 AM

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leme m ....

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my battery is so magi rn my final message goodbye

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:45 AM

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rippy

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 1:46 AM

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this is my girlfriend for the menu gisi who are wondering why she’s here

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:47 AM

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soweli ..

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:47 AM

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snoweli,,,

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:51 AM

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remote junco this is my girlfriend for the menu gisi who are wondering why she’s here

It's so funn ybecause i was like

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"Oh she said vixen so something lgbtq is about to happen"

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:52 AM

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lmfao

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 1:52 AM

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and it did!

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:52 AM

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Ahhh fuck guys gisi gisi gone woke

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:52 AM

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more like just something furry is about to happen but that too

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:52 AM

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chilly urchin Ahhh fuck guys gisi gisi gone woke

omgomg boycott gisi gsisis

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:52 AM

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my second final messages leaf word could moku e the foliage part of pagkan because a lot of grasses are just a single big leaf facing up tbh tbh

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:53 AM

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chilly urchin "Oh she said vixen so something lgbtq is about to happen"

I WOUILD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO KOLISIN MENTIONING U AS THE SPECIES

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:53 AM

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bush foliage perhaps even vegetable

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:53 AM

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atomic halo my second final messages leaf word could moku e the foliage part of pagkan becau...

hmmmmmmmmmm

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incheresting

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:53 AM

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chilly urchin I WOUILD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO KOLISIN MENTIONING U AS THE SP...

lma

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 1:53 AM

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chilly urchin I WOUILD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO KOLISIN MENTIONING U AS THE SP...

we are very furry tbh

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:54 AM

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In any case hi !!

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We gising it up in here

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:54 AM

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goose (g pronounced as in gisi gisi)

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also hi hi hi !

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 1:55 AM

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oh yeah I should repost the more updated spreadsheet

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:55 AM

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my third final message i just saw an ant Leap Off a tree??? i hate this baka forest

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 1:55 AM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WSlLJS54HvBgEhFrwJlaTU_VXrooofKF0zD5fPQvYlI/htmlview#

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:55 AM

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been a while since I've done any spreadsheeting fr

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:55 AM

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atomic halo my third final message i just saw an ant Leap Off a tree??? i hate this baka for...

DKNJASHDAJBHGSDAJKNSLABHJSGD

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WHAT THE HELL

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WHY IT DO THAT ‼️

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THE LEAPER

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:55 AM

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WHY DID SHE DO THAT!!!

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:55 AM

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atomic halo my third final message i just saw an ant Leap Off a tree??? i hate this baka for...

lmfao

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:55 AM

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YEAH!!!

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:55 AM

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What the fuck

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How did u make the sheet look like this

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Like just a Sheet

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And not the docs

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:56 AM

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wdym :thonk

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it looks normal to me ithink

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:56 AM

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it looks like this ?? for me

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:56 AM

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like it's just a website witj the sheet on it? there's an html view feature

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:57 AM

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chilly urchin it looks like this ?? for me

looks quite normal unless I'm missing something
iguess idk what you're referring to

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:57 AM

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like in contrast to this

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:57 AM

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ah so is it deleting thos extra columns

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 1:58 AM

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but also like

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doesn't have anything else

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no google no toolbar

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just

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the sheet itself

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 1:58 AM

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yeah it’s the htmlview

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my phone does that automatically

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:58 AM

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ohh isee
ye idk that but I'd guess it's the I've been beaten to it oh boye

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 1:59 AM

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remote junco yeah it’s the htmlview

intriguing

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gotta try that next time i sheet

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alsoalso continuing the two syllable third person pronoun tradition frfr

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:00 AM

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indeed

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:00 AM

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is there any grammar stuffs on the sheet or noe

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:01 AM

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not really no

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:01 AM

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rippie

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:01 AM

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the grammar stuff is on my sona pona article

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[[User:CosmicPython/gisi gisi]]

opal basinBOT Apr 6, 2024, 2:01 AM

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https://sona.pona.la/wiki/User:CosmicPython%2Fgisi_gisi

sona pona

User:CosmicPython/gisi gisi

gisi gisi (meaning "language of expression" or "very communicative") is a tokiponido first created by namako Kolisin in March 2024, but later contributors also developed the language alongside her, such as jan Kali and soweli Noneko. The language was not made with a specific goal in mind, but namako Kolisin wanted to explore toki pona with diffe...

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:01 AM

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it’s pretty close to toki pona’s grammar

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:01 AM

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omgrealreal

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:01 AM

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remote junco it’s pretty close to toki pona’s grammar

isee

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also does your phone automatically do silly apostrophes too
now that you mentioned it I'm noticing them again

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:03 AM

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yes

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:03 AM

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amazinglel

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i sure do love the invisible writings

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:03 AM

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lmf

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yeahe it’s just not around quite yet…

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I’m still cooking on mine

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 2:04 AM

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We're still working on them :]

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:04 AM

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ah i thought it was just glitching

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 2:04 AM

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Kulisin is making an angular one

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I'm making a more swirly swervy one

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:04 AM

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nicenice

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:04 AM

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oh that reminds me I need to finish making my pretty looking sitelen suwi thing for sona pona

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:05 AM

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what's the thatte

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:05 AM

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[[sitelen sitelen]]

opal basinBOT Apr 6, 2024, 2:05 AM

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https://sona.pona.la/wiki/sitelen_sitelen

sona pona

sitelen sitelen

sitelen sitelen, also known as sitelen suwi, is a logographic writing system for Toki Pona, created by Jonathan Gabel (jan Josan Kapo) around 2006. It is one of the two constructed writing systems featured in the book Toki Pona: The Language of Good, alongside sitelen pona. The overall style of sitelen sitelen was inspired by United States west-...

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:05 AM

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sitelen suwi is the original name

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:05 AM

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i know what sitelen sitelen is I mean what's this thing you're making

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:07 AM

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ohhh

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my brain is being small and flustered right now

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:07 AM

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lele youo're fine

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:07 AM

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but uhhh I was just making a potential server icon or logo for sona pona lol

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:07 AM

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omgomg verynice!

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:08 AM

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very textured and shaded

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:08 AM

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makes me wish i could art more,,

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:08 AM

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I’ll share when I’m finished

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mood

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:08 AM

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one day I'll know how to texturing and shading

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:08 AM

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lon a

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:14 AM

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remote junco but uhhh I was just making a potential server icon or logo for sona pona lol

how does one do this exactly
my experience with having ideas in servers goes as follows:

posts thing
instantly gets covered up by unrelated topics

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:15 AM

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the sona pona server is very quiet, and plus we have a thread for the logo proposals, which is even quieter

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:15 AM

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ah iseeisee
verynicelel

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back to actual on topic stuff omg all three nasals are used as their own words

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 2:18 AM

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nods nods they're silly

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:19 AM

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the silly goofy

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also ka looks like an interesting one

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 2:19 AM

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ka is fucked up

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it's good

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so good

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:19 AM

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lma amazing

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 2:20 AM

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I'd like to add that

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ka is not necessarily just for prepositions

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It also acts similarly to pi

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:21 AM

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the wiki page apparently defines whether ka is legal before certain words but like why not have it fine to go before any word as long as the result makes sense!1 @comicpytho (oh she gone)

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 2:21 AM

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Oh no that is klike

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What we use ka for

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:25 AM

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'uge ka nesku mom kemu

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i find it fascinating that we still don't have a solid construction for saying last night or tomorrow, like, relative to Right Now

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 2:28 AM

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we don't have Many constructinos 😭

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something about the kipa of mukaske

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 3:46 AM

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constructinos...

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 3:46 AM

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oh lord i wrote nothing down

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too much secret kulupu developments

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 3:48 AM

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kulupu sigka'i...?

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 3:48 AM

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KULUPU SIGKA'I

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NODS

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 3:48 AM

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🧠⚡🧠

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:31 AM

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'espu ka 'ispi kemu - the light shines on you
'ispi si kales - this one is orange
menu 'i keles mukaski si 'ispi - the person picks the purple potatoes

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nesku/kepa 'ispi - criteria?

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:34 AM

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'ispi for picking is funny

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Oh wait

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my dumbass waslike

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oh it picks them off the ground

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:34 AM

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A A A

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if you think about it picking it off the ground is tokanaing it off the surrounding soil

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:35 AM

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kepa 'ispi.....

flat wharf Apr 6, 2024, 4:36 AM

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my brain is like so toki Losupan whenever i see gisi gisi i keep thinking ' is /h/

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:37 AM

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The effects of Lojban on the apostrophe

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:38 AM

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flat wharf my brain is like so toki Losupan whenever i see gisi gisi i keep thinking ' is /...

hm I should add this to the space of /‘/

flat wharf Apr 6, 2024, 4:38 AM

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even though it’s only allowed between vowels

flat wharf Apr 6, 2024, 4:38 AM

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remote junco hm I should add this to the space of /‘/

TRUE

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:38 AM

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since I do transliterate [h] as such

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:38 AM

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remote junco hm I should add this to the space of /‘/

That's really skary

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Also think about how comfortable ur gonna make the anglophones

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:39 AM

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I’m already kicking their ass with the nguh

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major enemy of anglophones: putting x[N] outside of codas

strong tartanBOT Apr 6, 2024, 4:40 AM

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remote junco major enemy of anglophones: putting x[N] outside of codas

[ŋ]

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:41 AM

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I love seeing them try to pronounce the name Nguyen it’s literally different every time

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:41 AM

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😭

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"Inguyen"

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:41 AM

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jfjsijdjd

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:41 AM

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'alapa kanesu - atmosphere
'alapa 'espu - cloud, dust
'alapa 'ispi - ? the ghost of exclusionism

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:42 AM

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'alapa 'ispi - the secret reason to why u don't sit in the popular kids table

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disney channel original movie plot

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:43 AM

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remote junco I love seeing them try to pronounce the name Nguyen it’s literally different eve...

“nwen” “neeyin” uhhh what else have I heard that isn’t just “nguyen”

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:43 AM

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nwen...

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:43 AM

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nwen...

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:43 AM

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the people fear tripthongs

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:44 AM

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chthonic:

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:44 AM

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the word cththonic ? does she have a tripthong

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cthth

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thawnic

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cththonic the heththog

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:45 AM

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also it’s not like “strong” exists lol

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:45 AM

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true..

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:45 AM

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seme

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strong what

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:45 AM

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strong the word

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:45 AM

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a

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wait these aren't tripthongs these are just scary english consonant clusters

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strengths

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:46 AM

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stre/ŋkθs/

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:46 AM

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so fucking scary that u posted it a millisecond after i said it

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so leme

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:46 AM

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i hate that there's a k in the middle

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SO LEME

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it's such a goofy word i love it

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:47 AM

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switching from a voiced velar nasal to a voiceless dental fricative will epenthetically create a sound

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similar case happened with Thompson

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:48 AM

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what happened with thompson

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:48 AM

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it comes from “Thomas’ son”

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Thomas has a shortened form, Thom

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and then in classic Germanic fashion you just throw on a -son for your son and call it a day

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so it was Thomson

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but of course, going from a voiced bilabial nasal to a voiceless sibilant alveolar fricative is a difficult transition to make seamlessly

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so thus the metaphorical seam arises as [p]

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:50 AM

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fascinating....

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:50 AM

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and people noticed it and rolled with it

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eventually it became more intentional

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:51 AM

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That's really good

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And funny

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Humans love shortcuts

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:51 AM

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sili silen

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:51 AM

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remote junco strong the word

oh yeah I was also going to share [ʃt͡ʃɹɑŋ] like how I say it

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:51 AM

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Ah fuck I said humans that's 1 dollar in the alterhumanity jar

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:52 AM

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desire paths namunen ....

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:53 AM

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remote junco oh yeah I was also going to share [ʃt͡ʃɹɑŋ] like how I say it

oh fuck she starts it with a post alveolar fricative dats so cool...

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I would love to understand how I talk english but it is not consistent I think

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My accent is too swag for this language

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:54 AM

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she a 10 but her name starts with a post alveolar fricative

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:54 AM

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Shia Labeouf

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:54 AM

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for REAL

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:55 AM

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I have noticed that I don’t have a pin-pen merger

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but I say pin and pen identically

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so I have a pin-pen merger but not in the way it typically means

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:55 AM

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remote junco I have noticed that I don’t have a pin-pen merger

I am so gisimaxxed I was like what does this mean

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What is she Cooking

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:55 AM

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that’s mostly thanks to my Texan relatives

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xsampa

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:56 AM

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chilly urchin I am so gisimaxxed I was like what does this mean

x[I] = x[3]

strong tartanBOT Apr 6, 2024, 4:56 AM

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remote junco x[I] = x[3]

[ɪ]
[ɜ]

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:56 AM

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No ik what u mean I just thought U meant fuckin uhhh "a pin-pen" merger for gisi gisi

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:56 AM

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not quite but sure

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ohhhh fdjjsjdjd

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:56 AM

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:gisigkai: sampa - sound

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:57 AM

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GISIGKA'I

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 4:57 AM

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lawa mi

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:57 AM

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LAWA SINA

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 4:58 AM

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remote junco I have noticed that I don’t have a pin-pen merger

but otherwise I have a lot of them

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 4:59 AM

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how do u pronounce fire

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 5:02 AM

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roughly x["f6I_^.j@`]

strong tartanBOT Apr 6, 2024, 5:02 AM

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remote junco roughly x["f6I_^.j@`]

[ˈfɐɪ̯.jɚ]

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 5:03 AM

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remote junco roughly x["f6I_^.j@`]

I love regex

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Anyway ok nods

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 5:03 AM

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xsampa is fun

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 5:03 AM

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I was checking if u did one or two syllables

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I need to leanr xsampa

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so xbadly

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 5:03 AM

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ɐ...

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 5:03 AM

#

fire is a very two syllable word

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 5:04 AM

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some people do pronounce it as like

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uhhh

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x[fIr]

strong tartanBOT Apr 6, 2024, 5:04 AM

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chilly urchin x[fIr]

[fɪr]

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 5:05 AM

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or something

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one jyllable

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 5:06 AM

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chilly urchin x[fIr]

that is the word fear idk

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looking at this like you just told me “schmorkliness” was a word people use

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 5:07 AM

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I am NOT i am NOT seething frothing at the mouth growling throwing everything in the room away with my mind powers

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 5:07 AM

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atomic halo ɐ...

I do a bit of vowel raising

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[[Canadian raising]]

opal basinBOT Apr 6, 2024, 5:08 AM

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https://sona.pona.la/wiki/Canadian_raising

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 5:08 AM

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wrong wiki

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[[w:Canadian raising]]

opal basinBOT Apr 6, 2024, 5:08 AM

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https://sona.pona.la/wiki/w:Canadian_raising

Canadian raising

Canadian raising (also sometimes known as English diphthong raising) is an allophonic rule of phonology in many varieties of North American English that changes the pronunciation of diphthongs with open-vowel starting points. Most commonly, the shift affects or , or both, when they are pronounced before voiceless consonants (therefore, in wor...

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 5:09 AM

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ohhhhhhhshit

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 5:09 AM

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so true

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 5:10 AM

#

I notice however that I shift my x[aU] into like x[{U]

strong tartanBOT Apr 6, 2024, 5:10 AM

#

remote junco I notice however that I shift my x[aU] into like x[{U]

[aʊ]
[æʊ]

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 5:15 AM

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kaaeuh 🐮

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 5:15 AM

#

keu

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 5:16 AM

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ke'u...

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 6:43 AM

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chilly urchin I am NOT i am NOT seething frothing at the mouth growling throwing everything in...

kemu 'i nesku sesli si paka ka kusi leme paka btw

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 6:55 AM

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||you move with strong emotional movements your (place)||

wispy tendonBOT Apr 6, 2024, 6:57 AM

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ggisi. 'uge si gisi gisi kipa. 'uge si sili

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 6:58 AM

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ooh

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gisi las'e

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g si pes leme?

wispy tendonBOT Apr 6, 2024, 6:59 AM

#

???

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 6:59 AM

#

a a

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tokii

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sina sin anu seme

lucid bay Apr 6, 2024, 7:00 AM

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tokiii a ,,- =,,

wispy tendonBOT Apr 6, 2024, 7:02 AM

#

sin

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 7:02 AM

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It is so hard to try to communicate because they are so heavily nonverbal rn whajshqkdjw but they wanna talk

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 7:03 AM

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sina pilin seme

wispy tendonBOT Apr 6, 2024, 7:03 AM

#

:D

menu Ka'i ↩️

[Reply to:](#1220981267076481077 message) sina pilin seme

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 7:03 AM

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aa sNoneko kin li lon

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 7:03 AM

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nods

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 7:03 AM

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wispy tendon :D

:]

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 7:05 AM

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I have been thinking of making a mini conlang for them to communicate because even in here they sound like electronic garble (they're lovely)

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 7:06 AM

#

speak ++--+-+-

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 7:08 AM

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YYEAH LITERALLY THAT

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It also would be with little symbols

wispy tendonBOT Apr 6, 2024, 7:08 AM

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kemu kemu 'i 'uge si leme

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 8:08 AM

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tenpo sona li weka e mi. taso mi lon sin

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 8:09 AM

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wispy tendon kemu kemu 'i 'uge si leme

so true...

wispy tendonBOT Apr 6, 2024, 8:09 AM

#

:DDDD

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 8:10 AM

#

:]]

wispy tendonBOT Apr 6, 2024, 8:12 AM

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vvvv ÷÷ >>>>>>;;#:×^&>#&;;#*×

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 8:12 AM

#

"We now understand what communicating through emotional beams predominantly is"

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 8:13 AM

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oh good lord mi sona ala e ni

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nimi pi toki ni li seme

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 8:13 AM

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This is not a conlang yet

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 8:13 AM

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oh a a a

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 8:13 AM

#

They just speak in garble

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For now

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A a a

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 8:13 AM

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it looked convincing i got scared you made an entire conlang in like an hour

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 8:13 AM

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I could. (Image of the dude pointing at his head in red lighting)

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 8:14 AM

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:waft:

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waft be like paka

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 8:14 AM

#

Ddjkwnwjw

wispy tendonBOT Apr 6, 2024, 8:14 AM

#

&&^#^^×^2<^&@;'

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 8:14 AM

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This is like

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gisi leme

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 8:15 AM

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^ indicates exactly one (1) point of melancholy

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@ ...?well you wouldn't believe it..

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this bit is nasa nvm

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 8:16 AM

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What are you SAYING

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 8:16 AM

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A A A anyway toki

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tenpo sona la mi pana wawa e ilo pi pakala seli

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 8:17 AM

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n. Seme

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 8:24 AM

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mi lon tenpo pi throw grenades

chilly urchin Apr 6, 2024, 8:25 AM

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oh ok :D

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 11:12 AM

#

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 12:43 PM

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Pikmin 2

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 12:46 PM

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for REALL

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ka kemu sigka'i Kulisin pes gisi las'e

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 1:11 PM

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ka kemu kemu pes gisi las’e

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:51 PM

#

'uge 'i gisi las'e si gisi -> 'uge si las'e kipa

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a a a

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 1:53 PM

#

m

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:58 PM

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oh yeah [slides 'espu across the table]

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i dont remember if youre caught up with the white discourse but i need opinions because it's still in the playground sheet rn

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 1:58 PM

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I saw it in the playground

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 1:59 PM

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she saw it in the playground chat

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so yeah my gripe is that tuki tiki has suno kule merger not suno walo merger for like a pretty good reason

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 1:59 PM

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yeah

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it’s tough!

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light ‘i mukaski si kipa

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:00 PM

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could you think of any Other metaphor with white that doesn't go in the direction of pale perhaps

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maybe we just need to escape the pale-light dichotomy and everything will be alright

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:01 PM

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let’s explore metaphors with white

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:01 PM

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i can only think of white blank which is already twins with white pale

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i remember seeing a language that equated white with good? but that's like ehhh

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in the same family white can also be pure which like 1. is a little fucked up 2. interacts weirdly when modifying a color

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:02 PM

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pure, my favorite concept that definitely isn’t a loaded topic and functions as shaming

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:03 PM

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breaking news cultures agree white is when there's no stains on the sheep

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which is why im leaning so hard into what if we just magi white

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magi has a lot of things going on already though

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maybe the {deactivated, off, closed} could be migrated away? ehhh

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:04 PM

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magi could be white perhaps

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:05 PM

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i guess technically all 3 definition groups fall under the same thread of low-energy it just feels weird to see them all written out

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'espu could be recycled into light, color, visual, eye (give or take a few)

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actually 'espus etymology is literally the word white gah whatever that's for another kepa

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for now... how we feeling about magi white

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i dont really wanna divorce pini from magi

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:07 PM

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who said you had to

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:07 PM

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i love going "i mute the lightbulb*

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yeah lon...

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still though that's a lot of english words in one place isn't it

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:08 PM

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this reminds me of the Germanic split of “black” for black or white

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black used to mean like burning/burnt

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and some saw it as white, like the color of something on fire, and others black, like the color of something that’s been burnt

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:09 PM

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oh hn... interesting

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oh yeah btw one thing noneko did say about magi-white is like

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magi feels more like a modifier than a color itself, like there's a default color thats being muted

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:10 PM

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ah true

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its color is whatever color something turns when off

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:10 PM

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though to that i say magi is white AND gray, it can be any desaturated color

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:11 PM

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yeah magi is like how I use kapesi

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desaturated color/gray

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:11 PM

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it just kind of leans into the brighter parts because 1. things are usually light when they're undyed and 2. we have mukaski to take over the dark parts

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:11 PM

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yeah

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perhaps just make the word “pu” from the daoist term of unworked wood and with the meaning of raw or unworked and wait that’s just pagkan

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:12 PM

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HAHAH

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ooh raw specifically on pagkan is kind of imagery now that i think about it

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making the analogy with raw iron as the green budding fruit and worked iron as the finished product after its sili ka silen fire

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:16 PM

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true…

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:17 PM

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umm so yeah i would say we could have magi mean desaturated and whether that means Gray or White is mildly implicated by the material in question but otherwise doesn't really matter

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coral turns white when it die

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its so hard chatroom

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:19 PM

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true…

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:19 PM

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remote junco its color is whatever color something turns when off

funnily following this thread though an LED magi literally just turns mukaski

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it's red to dark red there's no desaturation that leans white

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:20 PM

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fascinating

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:20 PM

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im in my ramble arc i love facets and perspectives and also antitheses

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i hope im still intelligible enough to not provide net zero information

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:21 PM

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I understand

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I am imbibing the same vinegar

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:24 PM

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though again maybe mukaski being included sometimes can be a good thing im kind of fascinated by like

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chroma vs saturation, and how a hue has its highest chroma at One brightness level because adding either white or black weakens it

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it makes a bell curve

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adding gray after all is just adding white AND black

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letting the color theory enjoyer take the wheel on the color words was a mistake

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:28 PM

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atomic halo chroma vs saturation, and how a hue has its highest chroma at One brightness lev...

did you also know this is how yellow and red are different values btw

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the color wheel displays their like Most Saturated Forms and it's at different levels for different hues

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:29 PM

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color is super interesting

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especially since it’s one of the weakest senses we have

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:29 PM

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oh is it actually

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:30 PM

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iirc!

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it’s either that or taste

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but I do know we are better at hearing, that’s one of our best senses

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:31 PM

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im kind of understanding it in the sense that our brain like. automatically recalibrates colors all the time so we're bad at experiencing it Objectively

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:31 PM

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which makes sense when you think about what the first mammals looked like: little nocturnal rat creatures

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color is not a priority but hearing is

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:32 PM

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nods sagely

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we should go back to being nocturnal rats i think

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:32 PM

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lon…

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:33 PM

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i would write all this into the pros and cons list but i think this would legit require a mind map

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:33 PM

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the most eye-opening color: white

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:35 PM

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for REAL

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maybe ill do two entries

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one for 'espu one for new magi

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entry added

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:40 PM

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poggers

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:42 PM

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remote junco the most eye-opening color: white

can confirm
or would that be the most eye closing color because it's the brightest

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:45 PM

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LONNN

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silen 'alapa ka paka kemu si [suli] - the metaphorical path to you is huge - you are far away

remote junco Apr 6, 2024, 2:49 PM

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lon…

wind compass Apr 6, 2024, 2:49 PM

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intriguing

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i gotta learn the worms and grammar of this language so i can actually know what people are saying lm

atomic halo Apr 6, 2024, 2:50 PM

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sona pona be upon ye

#gisi gisi — toki kili pi toki pona tan namako Kolisin