sona.pona.la

[golden rock]

its wild to me that 4.5 years was enough for almost a complete turnover in community membership

[split grail]

things change fast

like, at least looking at old posts, you see the same people show up again and again, and only way later disappear, but here it seems more frequent

[golden rock]

i look at old posts and for the most part its like

people i never truly knew but still categorised as distinct entities in my brain

and the further back you go, to like 2020, its weird seeing so many of them just not being here

[split grail]

further back
like 2020

[golden rock]

ikr??

[split grail]

I was talking about the 2000s and 2010s but alright

[golden rock]

obligatory meme from me in the past:

[split grail]

god sdjfksldf

[split grail]

gjsdkfls

[golden rock]

a human lifetime is like

30k days

[zinc hazel]

mante li nasa

[upbeat summit]

ale li*!!*

[split grail]

in [[Phonotactics]] there's this table

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/Phonotactics

[split grail]

do we include the info on

... syllables

not that

... syllables

(please someone delete the other ones)

[split grail]

is this the first instance of wuwojiti btw
#toki-ale message

,,,we should also probably also have like a copy of the tokiponisation guidelines

[regal panther]

i think a lot of this is extraneous info
it doesntl really matter what syllables have been used or not if theyre allowed

[split grail]

it is extraneous

asking because it's not critical to have it

but I added a small note (looksies)

[regal panther]

to get back to you on this, linku lists "jan Wesu, jan Maliku, jan Kisinja, jan inwin" and i think it would be a pretty safe bet to say jan inwin made the sitelen pona for jasima

i only found out about their symbol from kule epiku Atawan, who was working on nimi ale

[split grail]

sina pona

well then

time to call inwin

(left the server )

[split grail]

(if you want to confirm with jan inwin or kule epiku Atawan, it would be good)

[split grail]

created [[literature]] because I want to collect types of them but it always feels like there isn't enough pages

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/literature

[split grail]

wait.... maybe

it should be a media page

maybe

to link to everything

[split grail]

wait............

that could be a section in [[usages]] too

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/usages

[split grail]

okay I did that and now I'm going thru the toki library and importing everything

[split grail]

is there like a citation of which page the [[typos]] in ku are

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/typos

[split grail]

mi ni

'this word' there is the word ku

the word ku is not a nimi ku suli

and I find that hilarious

[regal panther]

it is tho

i dont have my copy on hand but the category isnt defined as purely the result of the survey

[vague aspen]

it’s not??

[split grail]

hold on let me check

it's fair to send a page out of ku I think

it says right there that it's only counted the word with a frequency index more than 3 (minus yupekosi! it has an index of 3)

[regal panther]

huh i coudlve sworn it was on the list

oops

[split grail]

jan Misali said it was

powe Misali

[hot trout]

Thespian Misali

[split grail]

[[w:thespian]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/w:thespian

[vague aspen]

it’s not in ku at all

[split grail]

ku is in ku

page checks

[[ku]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/ku

[vague aspen]

this page says nothing about the word

[split grail]

256

[vague aspen]

i’m wrong again

[split grail]

powe-er Enki

[vague aspen]

[split grail]

ni li ike mute anu seme

lipu [[mani]] li pona ala pona

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/mani

[zinc hazel]

and goats

and humorously the devil

[regal panther]

only if its in like with mani's other definitions (currency)

[noble gulch]

pona a! ni taso li wile: jan li kepeken nimi ni lon nasin seme?

jan seme li kepeken nimi ni lon lipu seme?

[split grail]

oh shit examples ,.

[split grail]

happy 12/12/12

[golden rock]

i get 12th December whats the other 12

[split grail]

lies

pure deception

[golden rock]

darn we missed 01/12/23

[split grail]

damn true

[sly bison]

and november 0th, 2022

[golden rock]

@split grail ive made a list of all pona.la subdomains

it should appear at https://pona.la/full when ilo Sasi merges it

for now you can read it here

theres like 11 of them

(pinging you just cause you might be interested in writing an article on it, idk)

[split grail]

sina wawa

I am

[[pona.la]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/pona.la

[grand marten]

"Closed due to hosting costs"
ni li lon ala · #ijo-sin message

nano li wile ala utala e jan ike

[golden rock]

oooh my bad

me & reading comprehension, name a less iconic duo

[grand marten]

kin lipu.pona.la mi li lon tenpo pini

mi weka e ona tan kepeken ala tan pakala ilo

[golden rock]

the funny thing is, i can't read the kulupu pona closing post cause its on kulupu pona which is closed

fixed it

@grand marten for lipu.pona.la, does "Closed to spam abuse" sound right to you?

[grand marten]

nn ken

[golden rock]

@split grail https://pona.la/full is now up

[split grail]

yippee

[split grail]

@golden rock you forgot https://mutenpo.pona.la

[golden rock]

i blame free tools for searching for subdomains and ilo Sasi checking off on my list

made a pr to fix that

[split grail]

kjhfdfjkfd

is ilo Sasi a person

[golden rock]

ye

[split grail]

a

me is blind

[upbeat summit]

Eel o'Saucy

[split grail]

jan ala li sona pona lon tenpo ni

[upbeat summit]

msx

[sly bison]

mi sona xala

[split grail]

tenpo ni li tenpo lape

mi lape tan kama sona mi

mi wile pona e sona pi toki pona

[golden rock]

@split grail what do you think of having an article per song and having song lyrics and analysis/translation

[hot trout]

If you do this, maybe concentrate on original songs

[golden rock]

honestly 90% of why im suggesting is, i feel like people are sleeping on jan Usawi's lyrical skills
or it could just be me finding it difficult to process both words and music at once idk

[hot trout]

jan Usawi's lyrics have strengths and weaknesses
stengths outweighing the weaknesses
but I'm not one who really pays attention to lyrics that much

[upbeat summit]

I have been wondering about this. Do we need permission to do that
Also remember to use the <poem /> tag

We would probably also need a music infobox

[golden rock]

in terms of copyright i woulf assume we do

[upbeat summit]

which

until they add $ and ɔ to sitelen pona i will have no idea what this means!!!!

[grand marten]

nimi mama en mani ala en pana sama

[upbeat summit]

"nimimama" looks stimmy

[grand marten]

https://tenor.com/u0aOXctI3WG.gif

[upbeat summit]

wha

new site background for sona pona

[grand marten]

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/chipi-chipi-chapa-chapa-dubidubidu

[upbeat summit]

Boykisser Rides Again

[split grail]

[[toki pona (song)]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/toki_pona_(song)

[split grail]

np

in seriousness, I do want to do that :>

[hot trout]

Someone should go through https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLc7R2x5fn6AqRFUR9JzGIqh0FMdtsXRnH and make a new playlist of which videos are original toki pona songs
(Not me, I still have to finish making the lyric playlist)

[split grail]

aa

can we ask them pretty please for the lyrics to be compatible 🥺

[grand marten]

o {{Other e ``license}}` :p

[split grail]

a

[grand marten]

ni li ma [Wikipedia] ala · lipu lawa li wawa ala tawa ma ni

[split grail]

still feels wrong,,

[grand marten]

tan seme

[split grail]

I don't know

maybe I'm more accustumed to Wikipedia

[split grail]

new sp glyphs for you

[grand marten]

sisi, nimimama, manijala, panasama, antewala

[split grail]

sjfklsfdj

is this ssk peaking thru, why are the glyphs so silly

[hot trout]

I should probably make explicit that my song lyrics (but not all the songs) are CC-BY

[split grail]

sina pona

[split grail]

ja
Kekan San

[split grail]

for [[Wakalito]], how can I make the table compact and hideable

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/Wakalito

[hot trout]

Start the table with {| class="mw-collapsible"

[split grail]

ahh

[split grail]

calling on editors to help to create more person articles :>
#1145483914765422682 message

bug when using {{tp title}} inside userspace

is it just me or does this like. never load
https://jamesmoulang.itch.io/nasin-sona-musi

[hot trout]

loads for me

[split grail]

what browser do you use btw

[hot trout]

soweli seli

[split grail]

well then..

I am too, so I don't know what is wrong

[split grail]

[[Toki Pona logo]], what do you think of including the colours used as well, like this commonly on articles for flags

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/Toki_Pona_logo

[regal panther]

Sonja has sent the hex codes in this server before lemme double check those

[split grail]

this is going to the image for the epiku article (x)

[upbeat summit]

#pali-musi message

Most of the images are slightly off :)

[regal panther]

ty

[regal panther]

can u replace the sp with the non-arrow one

i dont think that one is preferred anymore because it messes up directional ni

[split grail]

this is a joke

[split grail]

ah

lovely innit

[upbeat summit]

I wonder if we should change the SVG on Wikimedia Commons

Should be easy to just tweak the source code of the existing file

[split grail]

feel free to

[outer stirrup]

mi la toki pi jan usawi li kama toki inli lon lipu ni la ni li ike

• pali ona li ijo pi toki pona la toki sona pi pali ona o kepeken toki pona
• jan ante li kute la ona li sona ante e toki la nasin wan pi toki inli li ken ala lon
• sona pi toki ni li lon toki pona taso la jan li ken wile kama sona toki pona tan ni

lon la pilin sama mute li lon mi tawa ale pi ma lipu ni

wile pi ma ni li pana e pilin sama ni: "toki pona li ijo musi li lon poki lili. jan li toki kepeken toki pona la ni li musi taso. mi ken lukin e insa poki li ken pana e sona pi musi ni lon lipu!" ni li ike tawa mi

lipu li toki inli taso la nasin sona pi toki inli en nasin sona pi lipu Wikipedia li lawa e toki sona. toki inli li wawa lon ale li anpa e ale...ma pi toki pona la ni o awen tan seme a

ale o ante e toki ale lon ma lipu ni tawa toki pona

ni li awen ike anu seme...toki tu li poki tu li awen tu

mi sona ala. Ante la, mi kama ante lili e lipu pi nimi Omekapo li ante e nasin pilin sona (sama ni: nimi ni li seme tawa nasin sona (pi toki inli)?

mi lawa e ale la nasin li sama ni: lipu sin ale li toki pona taso lon open, li ken kama toki inli

taso nasin lon li kama ni: lipu sin ale li toki inli taso lon open, li ken kama toki pona

mi toki mute. jan ante la pilin seme

[split grail]

this is sure a take

[outer stirrup]

lon. mi pilin

[split grail]

sorry that I'm speaking for this

i am eepy and the toki isn't pona

[outer stirrup]

toki pona li toki pona ala ❓🙀

[split grail]

I don't think that this it's the same as that. it's like saying that documenting Chinese in English is a silly thing

[outer stirrup]

ni li ante tan ni: toki sonko li wawa mute

[split grail]

same argument

for like

thinks of a small language

Yahgan

[outer stirrup]

jan ala li awen kepeken toki ni anu seme

o alasa e toki ante

[split grail]

aa

mi sona ala

[split grail]

I also believe in writing things in English as that is a language that more people already speak and can more easily express themselves in

[outer stirrup]

mi sona e pilin ni li ken pilin sama, jan mute li ken lukin e lipu pi toki inli, jan mute li ken ala lukin e lipu pi toki pona

[split grail]

it's not like writing in toki pona isn't possible or worse
I also don't know if limiting the analysis to toki pona would make people want to learn it.. that feels counterproductive

[outer stirrup]

la lipu o kama toki inli, taso mi la open la jan o pali kepeken toki pona, ni la nasin sona li tan toki pona li pona tawa toki pona

[split grail]

and also this would be an analysis, maybe a translation would be a Bad idea because there can be many of them

[outer stirrup]

kalama pi jan usawi la pilin mi li ante a a. mi wile weka e toki inli lon ni, taso mi wile ala weka e toki inli lon lipu sona

[split grail]

toki ona o ante ala
taso mi ken toki e kon ona e pilin ona
anu seme

[outer stirrup]

a sina toki e toki pi jan usawi lon ni. mi kama sona e toki sina

[split grail]

aa

mi tu li kama ala kama sona

[outer stirrup]

a nimi omekapo la mi o pona e sona lon lipu sona tan lipu ni https://lipukule.org/post/2021/01/23/omekapo/

sona mi la kala pona li lon toki uta lon ma pona li kute e ni: nimi omekapo li kama lon

[split grail]

nn

[[omekapo]] la sona ni li lon a

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/omekapo

[outer stirrup]

n nasin li lon tawa lipu ni, taso sona ona li kama ala lon lipu

[dark tree]

for Usawi songs specifically, it probably makes sense to link to other people's translations

[split grail]

true,,

[dark tree]

/ for translations in general, if that's a thing elsewhere on spl, maybe?

not sure, that's a pretty broad thing for me to assert

[split grail]

tenpo suno kama la mi pali e lipu lili tan kalama musi ona. jan Tepo o toki e ike lon lipu tawa mi

[split grail]

wdym

linking to translations is okie
see [[kamalawala]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/kamalawala

[split grail]

now mi lape it is two in the morning .,

[outer stirrup]

nn lipu sona ni li wile ala pali e sona li wile pana e sona tan lipu ante taso, sama lipu wikipesija, anu seme? la ni li pona nanpa wan

[dark tree]

ken. mi sona ala

[dark tree]

i was making a blanket statement that spl shouldn't translate works
but that's probably too blanket

[outer stirrup]

https://sona.pona.la/w/index.php?title=omekapo&diff=prev&oldid=7386

[dark tree]

ante pona

[grand marten]

https://cohost.org/spiders/post/269405-my-favorite-toki-pon

[split grail]

is Gabel's surname pronouned /ˈɡæbəl/

[split grail]

impossible password (true)
https://nasi.pona.la/

[split grail]

asking for help on translation
(using the noka-anpa distinction as follows) how do you translate the phrases

lon noka tomo
lon noka kasi suli

jan li lukin e lipu lon noka kasi

my brain just blanked on the English language

"sina lon seme a? mi awen tan sina lon noka pi tomo esun suli"

ALSO how do you distinguish 'awen' as in 'I'm waiting for you' and 'I'm protecting you'

[golden rock]

i would say "mi awen, tawa kama sina" vs "mi awen e sina"

[regal panther]

i translate noka like the image provided, where its like the bottom part of something
noka tomo could be like the first floor of a building
noka kasi could be like the stump of a tree

[split grail]

thank youu

[outer stirrup]

noka pi tomo esun suli anu seme

[safe stag]

Nasi was for sptp 2023 :P

[golden rock]

oh

[split grail]

[[monsuta (song)]] li kama lon

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/monsuta_(song)

[split grail]

please help add to it

[split grail]

jan Sepulon created an account so I'm nmaking this for him? them??

[split grail]

now that I think about it, I could absolutely add a 'discography' section to Kekan San's article, as he was a featured artist in a song by jan Usawi

and that would be hilarious

it's the same thing as seeing article for Tom Scott on Wikipedia and

[split grail]

(can someone add a parameter to change 'page' to section',,

wait I can just do that

[split grail]

anu la ni li tenpo alasa
what is the role of anu here,,

[noble gulch]

mi monsuta
e sina la o weka
anu la
ni li tenpo alasa

I think it means "otherwise".

"Alternatively. In the other case."

[split grail]

yeah that is true

but what I wanted to know is, is this a semiparticle? a content word? something else? I wrote it down on [[anu]] that it was a semiparticle

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/anu

[hot trout]

a
nasin mi la ona li ni ala

[split grail]

I did this also because it's not really 'to choose'

[noble gulch]

In this context I think it's the same as "kin" in "kin la".

In "ante la", "ante" is a content word.

But I'm not sure about "kin" there.

I don't think "anu" is acting as a particle there. I interpret it as a substantive/noun in the context.

[split grail]

ni a

[noble gulch]

I'm still not exactly what a semi particle is. I know "nanpa" is an example, but I don't think "anu" is the way "nanpa" is.

[split grail]

a semiparticle is something that acts like a particle but has semantic value (meaning) like a content word

[noble gulch]

n

[split grail]

b

[noble gulch]

p

I guess by that logic "anu" is a semi particle, but it's in the particle end of the spectrum, whereas nanpa is mostly content word.

I don't know my jan pona.

[split grail]

truly

[dark tree]

for most speakers, anu is just a particle. for anu-means-choose users, anu is also a content word, so a semiparticle

[hot trout]

nimi Anu li sama nimi Kin la... jan ante li kepeken ala kepeken ona lon pini toki anu pini nimi? mi a lukin ala e kepeken ni

[outer stirrup]

lipu ni o ken lon toki pona. nasin seme la mi ken kama e ni

kepeken ilo Extension:Translate la mi ken ante e lipu pi toki inli tawa toki pona. taso mi ken ala ken open e pali pi lipu sin lon toki pona

a, lon la ken

ilo Special:PageLanguage li ken kama e ni: toki mama lipu li toki pona, kama la lipu li ken kama toki inli

[split grail]

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,true

let me just

rephrase everything

[split grail]

o

sina toki pona e lipu la o open toki pona e [[Project:lipu pona]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/Project:lipu_pona

[split grail]

ona li pona mute
tan ni la mi ante lili e ona

[split grail]

the writing may have turned out a bit wonky

but oh well

[outer stirrup]

mi ken ni

[split grail]

yapppiii

fully endorse ponaing the toki

[split grail]

I uh, did not mean literally this page, but the articles linked on it sdjfklsdfj

but it works too ghsdlfjksdfl

question, where do you edit the toki pona translation of MediaWiki

[outer stirrup]

a..

[outer stirrup]

ni la o toki e ni "o open lon lipu pona ni [[sona pona:lipu pona]]

[outer stirrup]

ma translatewiki.net

[split grail]

pona

[split grail]

mi toki pakala a a

[outer stirrup]

mi o toki pona e lipu open a

[split grail]

a

[split grail]

pona

mi wile sona e ni: sina ante e toki lon ni la toki lipu li ante anu seme

[outer stirrup]

ante a

lon tenpo

[split grail]

kin sitelen [文A] li tu tan seme

[outer stirrup]

mi pali mute lon ni tawa lipu wikipesija

[outer stirrup]

a...soma ala

[split grail]

soma

[split grail]

mi toki e lipu lon insa poki /tok

[outer stirrup]

a..lukin la ala

mi pilin e ni: sina lukin e lipu lon toki pona la, nasin li tawa lipu ante tan ni la, lipu kama kin li toki pona la, sina kama lukin e ona pi toki pona

taso mi sona pona ala. ilo!

[split grail]

@grand marten @upbeat summit jan pi sona ilo o,,

[grand marten]

mi sona wawa ala e ilo ni

[grand marten]

ilo ko li seme

[split grail]

[split grail]

it has to do with this
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:FuzzyBot

[grand marten]

a musi

[outer stirrup]

ona li pali ilo pi ante toki

ante toki la lipu li kama kipisi lili mute. kipisi li ante la tenpo kama la ilo li wan e kipisi li pana e lipu pi toki ante

n..jan mute o kama ken lawa pi ante toki

ken la ale o ken ni, mi sona ala

ken la pona Autoconfirmed

[grand marten]

lipu [www.mediawiki.org] la poki pi toki ante li insa lipu a · mi lon ma pi toki [Inli] ala li tawa https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate la ona li tawa ala e mi tawa lipu pi toki mi

[outer stirrup]

ken la ala

[grand marten]

[[Special:MyLanguage/Project:lipu_pona]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/Special:MyLanguage%2FProject:lipu_pona

[grand marten]

a!! o awen!

poki!

[outer stirrup]

mi pana a e poki

[grand marten]

a.

[split grail]

ooo

[split grail]

WAWA

it is a bit uggy to have that in all pages, but oh well

[grand marten]

n

[outer stirrup]

mi la pona. ale o sona e ni: lipu li lon toki ante

n mi o tawa lipu ale o toki e ni: ona o ken kama toki ante

mi ni la jan ante li ken pali e ante toki

[split grail]

ideally I would like a button like this

[outer stirrup]

taso toki tu li lon

[split grail]

yappii

[outer stirrup]

mute

[split grail]

toki mute li ken lon

[outer stirrup]

tenpo ni la toki tu li lon

[split grail]

*kama lon

[split grail]

n

I'm going to translate it into Portuguese out of spite

I am mad that my Brazil ABNT 2 does not have the pipe character

[outer stirrup]

pona. lipu li kama toki pona

[split grail]

mi pini ante e lipu tawa toki Potuke

[upbeat summit]

ilo seme
🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸

[split grail]

do u wanna translate stuff

or figure out how MediaWiki works

[upbeat summit]

maybe

[outer stirrup]

mi wile kama pali e ni: lipu ale a li ken toki ante

[outer stirrup]

mi o toki e ni lon lipu: sina pali e lipu sin la, o pona e ona tawa ante toki kepeken nasin seme

[outer stirrup]

mi toki e lipu pi jan Lakuse tawa ona la ona li pilin ike mute. sona mute li lon ala. mi weka e lipu.

mi o toki tawa jan ante ale e ni: ona li wile ala wile e lipu jan ona

ken ante la mi o weka e lipu jan ale

[rugged torrent]

@split grail toki~ mi lukin e ni: sina pali e lipu tawa mi. mi lukin e ona la mi pilin nasa ike. mi wile ala e ni: jan pi toki inli li ken alasa e ni ale li ken sona. kin la sona MUTE pi lipu ni li lon ala.
ken la tenpo kama la jan o pali e lipu pi ona taso anu seme.. ante la sina pali e lipu la o TOKI mute tawa jan ni

[outer stirrup]

mi toki tawa jan olipija la ona kin li wile e ni: mi weka e lipu

ale o pali ala e lipu jan sin lon ni: sina sona ala e wile jan

ante la, ilo tu li utala, ilo wan li ilo pi ante toki li wile ante e nimi lipu, ilo ante li ante e nimi lipu tawa ni: sitelen ona li tawa poka lili sama nimi pi toki pona

ni tu li ante e nimi lipu

mi sona ala pona e ni

[outer stirrup]

mi pona e ni kepeken pali ilo nasa mute

taso...nasa ante...ilo pi ante toki li nasin pona ala e ni: nasin li lon tan lipu wan tawa lipu ante

mi wile ante e ilo..taso ma miraheze la ken ni li lili anu seme

[upbeat summit]

another issue with the displaytitle extension:

[[:Category:lipu pona]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/:Category:lipu_pona

[upbeat summit]

translations are indistinguishable on automatically generated lists

[outer stirrup]

ilo...

mi o kepeken ala nasin displaytitle anu seme

pona ona li wawa ala

augh ilo pi ante toki li ike a. awen la toki inli li sewi

[split grail]

mi alasa toki e lipu ni kepeken ni: mi lukin e lipu jan e lipu sina
mi toki pakala la sina ken pona e ni

[split grail]

oke a

mi ken ala weka e lipu

a mi ken tawa e nasin tawa lipu "Tokiponist"

something else that I have to do later is like, make a small text to collect my thoughts what should we do in cases like this

what is Special:MyLanguage/

and now I wait a whole day because Tepo is basically on the other side of the world

[grand marten]

lipu ni li tawa e sina tawa lipu pi toki wile sina

[split grail]

ahh

[grand marten]

taso · seme la ijo li ken wile e toki · ilo lawa anu seme · taso ona la toki [pona] li lon ala

poki toki sewi li ante e toki ilo taso e lipu ala anu seme

[split grail]

nianuseme

aa

mi sona ala a

[upbeat summit]

*文a文a

[split grail]

so true

[outer stirrup]

poki toki sewi a li lawa e ilo Ilo:TokiMi

n taso mi pilin ike tan ni: nasin ale la mi o sitelen e toki ilo pi suli mute. mi lukin pona e ni kepeken [[Template:l]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/Template:l

[outer stirrup]

ona li kama ala pona mute...

[split grail]

isn't it a bit awkward to have to add that template everywhere, on every link

[outer stirrup]

nasin ante li lon ala

mi ken kepeken ilo Special:MyLanguage lon nasin ale, taso ni li ike suli

mi ken ante e ilo, taso ni li pali suli, li ken wile e tenpo suli lon ilo Miraheze

[split grail]

[outer stirrup]

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T353660 mi toki e pilin

[split grail]

pona a

[dark tree]

a mi o pona lukin e sitelen /

[split grail]

how do you add a font to sona.pona.la

I tried uploading the TTF file but so far nothing

is it just slow

[golden rock]

why do you need to? cant you just import one with css?

[split grail]

I've seen someone else do that ,. so

@upbeat summit work for u <3

[split grail]

does {{sp}} work differently from {{spt}}

I think the latter is lacking the |font= parameter

IT IS

[split grail]

THAT'S why the font wasn't working

abababababa

also I am sure that I had a file with all ligatures in linja lipamanka but I can't find it

I found it

[hot trout]

yes, hover doesn't transform it back to Latin

[split grail]

that is true

obsessed that there is a Vriska character in linja lipamanka

[split grail]

the website decided too break just when I was about to post the changes

[split grail]

finally [[name glyphs]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/name_glyphs

[upbeat summit]

I cannot believe numbered lists let you start at a negative number

HTML standard, thank you but why

[split grail]

why not

silly

-1. prepreparations
0. preparations

1. first step
   1.1. oops note
   sqrt(2). hm I broke it
2. second step

[sly bison]

i. make sure to do this one at the same time as zero but in a different spot

[upbeat summit]

Use <ol start="calc(sqrt(-1))" /> to count 𝑖, 1 + 𝑖, 2 + 𝑖, …

A bit counterintuitive but mathematically rigorous

[split grail]

fsjdklfjsd

[upbeat summit]

…there's a reversed attribute so theoretically they would extend it to be able to count in any direction

[sly bison]

no typing just i ig

[upbeat summit]

That could be lowercase Roman numerals

[split grail]

what step are we on
3+i
2+i
1+i
i
-4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4
-i
-1+i
-2+i
-3+i

[sly bison]

i is above -1 it should be above 0

[golden rock]

i recommend using code blocks (``` ```) for when youre using whitespace to line things up :3

[split grail]

I know but forgor

[split grail]

aa

[sly bison]

s
 m
  a
   r
    t

[split grail]

si
 i
 i
 ilapa and taaaaaaasun my beloved

[sly bison]

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[dark tree]

this is either a kijetesantakalu or an amogus

[sly bison]

its not a fuckkng amogus

[split grail]

I beg to differ

[sly bison]

i also beg to differ

[split grail]

woe! kijetesantakalu Braille tawa sina!

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[sly bison]

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[sly bison]

jesus shit

[split grail]

gjsdlkfjsdf

does it look broken on mobile

[sly bison]

no

[split grail]

ok good

[sly bison]

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[split grail]

/sp silapa1
silapa2
silapa3 en taaasun li pona tawa mi

Linku please

[sly bison]

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[split grail]

this is becoming a bit #jaki

[sly bison]

a

[split grail]

do we know who created the logo for [[suno pi toki pona]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/suno_pi_toki_pona

[split grail]

@warm pivot a sina sona ala sona

[dark tree]

i have a vague memory that it might be @storm garnet

[storm garnet]

it was me

[split grail]

yappiii

may I ask what licence is it in

(Kita o don't say [[Project:Copyrights]] )

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/Project:Copyrights

[grand marten]

[ilo penpo o lukin ala]
actually i was gonna say the opposite, by commons rules this could probably count as [[c:Template:PD-text]] and maybe [[c:Template:PD-shape]]
that's legal-wise though, moral-wise it's nice to ask

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/c:Template:PD-text
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/c:Template:PD-shape

[split grail]

moral-wise it's nice to ask
^ mi ni

and very pona

[split grail]

if that is not needed
when was it made still is

was it made in 2021 one sec,,

it was

[[c:File:Logo_for_suno_pi_toki_pona.svg]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/c:File:Logo_for_suno_pi_toki_pona.svg

[grand marten]

a taso ma [Polska] li n

[split grail]

(what site is that) thank soweli that Commons isn't in Poland

also smh lawa mi, another error

[grand marten]

(https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Threshold_of_originality#Poland) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules

taso ni ale li suli ala a

ilo li pana e ken lon poka

[split grail]

pona

[[lonsi]] li lon

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/lonsi

[dark tree]

probably merits mentioning that the primary use is a prank where you tell people to use the word, then don't tell them what it means when they ask

[split grail]

true

[dark tree]

maybe also mention "we"
cuz they're both kinda friend group words

like words that refer to a specific friend group

[split grail]

like

this [[we]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/we

[dark tree]

the content word yeah

[split grail]

ahh

I know nothing about it

if you do, feel free to edit it

[dark tree]

more specifically
the people who use we as a head noun, are all part of a specific friend group
the people who use lonsi as a head noun, are all part of a specific friend group, i think

i will if i remember later!

[split grail]

wawa

i forgor a parameter

[upbeat summit]

does it just happen for anything not in Linku

[split grail]

yeah

so just

Usage | this word was not in linkus surveys something like this

[split grail]

@mighty seal o is there any reason why you coined the word ku in specific

and to why ku has no frequency index

@upbeat summit kala

[upbeat summit]

ah

[split grail]

or soweli too idk

[upbeat summit]

Well clearly penguins are akesi

semiaquatic just like frogs

[split grail]

sobbing

[upbeat summit]

Did you have anything more specific to say about flying squirrels

[split grail]

no

just 'are they soweli are they waso idk you decide'

[upbeat summit]

maybe i will

[split grail]

prescriptivism

[upbeat summit]

New mention of TP https://adctheatre.com/blog/posts/wordplaying-why-people-like-to-construct-languages-and-what-it-might-say-about-them

Where does this get filed under again

[split grail]

[[media coverage]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/media_coverage

[grand marten]

sutopatikuna

[grand marten]

Opaa :p

[split grail]

jfsdlfs

[upbeat summit]

n gangnam style

[split grail]

ike

who names their font 'writing', just that

[hot trout]

a
sina sona ala sona e sitelen pi nimi Sitelen Lasina

[split grail]

i

so

the font "Sitelen Lasina" is

sitelen sitelen

what is this btw

I added everything on the PDF by Umihotaru

[hot trout]

Oh right

ni li lon ona kin

[split grail]

o

it is the same tho,,

oh you mean add to the font list

[hot trout]

a ni

nimi Linku:
uF19A4(󱦤) uF1996(󱦖) uF1988(󱦈)

[hot trout]

mi wan li pana e sitelen Telo Sitelen
sitelen Lipu Tenpo li lon ala

[split grail]

now I realise that I need the SVG logo of Linku,,

[hot trout]

ona li lon kulupu Linku

[split grail]

seme a

[hot trout]

sitelen li lon ala lipu Sona Pona La

[split grail]

a

fixing fixing

[split grail]

dankebeautiful

[hot trout]

bitteyourebeautifultoo

[upbeat summit]

who names their script "written writing"

[split grail]

that is true

[upbeat summit]

btw should we install the Latinless version of this font, just so we have a font to do```
=={{tp|sitelen sitelen}}==
The {{tp|[[sitelen sitelen]]}} glyph for {{tp|akesi}} ({{ss|akesi}}) …

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/sitelen_sitelen

[split grail]

I guess

it is good actually,,

o ni

[upbeat summit]

mi o ala lon tenlon

mi o la e pe

[grand marten]

mama li ni ala
"I began to call to this drawing process sitelen suwi, or sweet drawing, because of its emphasis on appealing curves and shapes. In toki pona, sitelen can mean both drawing and writing, and John Clifford (jan Kipo) proposed sitelen sitelen as the way to say hieroglyphic using toki pona, literally ‘drawing writing’."

[split grail]

tenlon??

[split grail]

a lape pona

[split grail]

I knew that but oh how isn't this in the article yet

[upbeat summit]

mi lape ikely

and awoke and created https://sona.pona.la/wiki/Category:Sections_needing_work to see how much https://sona.pona.la/wiki/Category:Pages_needing_work would go down by

(about 80ish)

[split grail]

o

good

[upbeat summit]

i thiiiink the pages that need work should all have explanations for what needs to be worked on, since it's so much less specific

even if it's just "Stub"

but there should be An explanation that you know when it's been fulfilled

i'm wondering if there are a bunch of pages that should've had the template taken off by now and just haven't because it wasn't clear when to do so

@split grail could you consider rifling through the ones you're familiar with and clearing that up for those pages

[split grail]

nn oki

in a bit

can we just have a stub template

it would be great

[upbeat summit]

I Guese

[split grail]

okay I am finally in a cafe instead of, in the streets

sona time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just saw this . 'blame for' gjdslkfjsdf

ALSO @upbeat summit this drives me nuts but it's so dumb

when a line of text has [citation needed] it is taller than the others for no reason ababababababababa

can you make it. not

also @\Menasewi again, since you're writing articles about ma pona, I think this thread discussing the arguments brought up by ilo Mimuki might be good to see?
#learn-toki-pona-1 message

[golden rock]

btw can we add a transcription on the ucsur page

[split grail]

wdym

[golden rock]

jan Lepeka has a particular way of pronouncing UCSUR that i kinda want documented

[split grail]

like, the proposal for Unicode or something that taht

[golden rock]

brb looking it up

[split grail]

OH

transcription as in IPA

I know that CSUR and UCSUR are /si:.ɛs.juː.ɑː/ and /juːsi:.ɛs.juː.ɑː/
but in my head I am just like ehehe /ksur/ and /uskur/

[golden rock]

/juːsi:.ɛs.juː.ɑː/
yeah that's not what jan Lepeka calls it

[upbeat summit]

i have noticed it and have no idea why it is 🥲

[golden rock]

and considering jan Lepeka is the maintainer of UCSUR i feel like thats notable

[split grail]

is the pronunciation goofy

[upbeat summit]

isn't that the source that we'd already cited in that article?

[golden rock]

there was one conversation from like a year ago where she mentioned its something like you-see-sur
but
(a) i could be remembering her pronunciation wrong (b) im struggling to locate the source

[split grail]

no, counterpoints to that source

[split grail]

you can just

[upbeat summit]

ah hrrm

[split grail]

ask her

again

(and I did just now, see ma pi nasin sitelen)

[upbeat summit]

i feel like it is, not my place to try to rephrase and present counterarguments in an encyclopedic format

[split grail]

hm, true

it is just something to keep in mind I guess

[golden rock]

hahaha i was scrolling through her message history hoping to find the conversation i remember

its fun to have people less worried about reaching out

[split grail]

true

but sometimes you just have to give in

[upbeat summit]

my main counterargument is "it could be that a lot of the Reddit posts weren't actually vying for a nation and were just doing it for the trend or theorycrafting about the Minecraft localization region or something" and that's not very clear-cut and is already adequately described on the page imo

and which doesn't address the fact that the creations were still based on a particular nation-centric vision

[golden rock]

i just found this

also lmao

[split grail]

o

what are you

passport: fish

[upbeat summit]

American't

(nasin toki)

[split grail]

so true

yess

[golden rock]

im russian lol

[split grail]

totally off there

hey Menasewi is this intended

[upbeat summit]

involves putting ‹ou› in unstressed syllables e.g. coloeauxrgh for color when it should Obviously just be spelled culler

[split grail]

did you casually just insert like

[upbeat summit]

…can you try clearing your cache real quick

[split grail]

a cell worth of a whole page

jgslfsdkf

[upbeat summit]

it's not supposed to .

[split grail]

it doesn't work, .

[upbeat summit]

thats ungood

okay whenever Miraheze updates try then

[split grail]

gjdslkfsdf

[upbeat summit]

That's weird because that's Firefox right

but i'm Firefox

[split grail]

it is Firefox

soweli seli

[upbeat summit]

woseli

[golden rock]

hot furries

[upbeat summit]

yes we are

[split grail]

:3c

[upbeat summit]

:ɜc

[split grail]

oh hold on I have my phone where I can check

oh I see

it is still broken but

[golden rock]

hahaha

[split grail]

laughing at my expence

or however you spell that

[golden rock]

no this is great

[split grail]

o lukin

[upbeat summit]

laughing at your ex-peixe

[split grail]

the whole page is just, . hidden behind the error cell

[upbeat summit]

len loje

the red carpet treatment

prestigious

[split grail]

[upbeat summit]

It should not that

It othatn't

σovx

There should be a browser extension that removes prepositional phrases

kala Asi, also known, short, is a Russian software developer and the creator.

Notes

1. kala Asi goes.

chaos

[split grail]

[upbeat summit]

1. Phonology: Letters are pronounced. Stress is.

[split grail]

you are a menace

<3

[upbeat summit]

They should put me.

[in charge]

[of…]

[golden rock]

this is so funny i love it

@split grail
jan Lepeka replied:

I say "see-sir" /ˈsiˌsɝ/ and "you-see-sir" /ˈjusiˌsɝ/ but I recognize that's weird and most people would probably spell it out "C-S-U-R" /ˈsi.ɛsˌju.ɑɹ/ and "U-C-S-U-R" /ˈju.si.ɛsˌju.ɑɹ/

[upbeat summit]

i do /ˈuwk.sər/ and have nothing for CSUR since i barely see it used

[split grail]

I

I will include a note about that

[upbeat summit]

You see, sir,

[golden rock]

You have got.
Did I miss the one where you said which conlang you're fluent and read and can read new books every week or listen? New radio shows?
Yeah, I'm surprised you don't know that there are radio shows put every week. I thought you were supposed.
And, which are you fluent?
I suppose you think that's cute. What it makes you is a fraud.

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/kala_Asi

[chrome turtle]

[kala Asi]

[vague aspen]

why did you appear

[split grail]

gsdjfksld

also omg,, you used my silly joke as your nickname

I am honoured

[vague aspen]

yuh

it’s pronounced like in pinyin btw

[split grail]

well hello /ɤ́ntɕʰí/

[vague aspen]

where did you get x/tc_hiH/ from

how do you spell ɕ

[split grail]

Mandarin Chinese in the (whatevery) hundreds went a soundchange where ki gi → qi ji. so now even names like Niki become Niqi or Niji

[grand marten]

ni li sama lipu [Wikipedia] · sama ni li ike tawa mi · mi la o kala Asi (she/they)

[vague aspen]

a

pona

[split grail]

n

mi sona ala

[vague aspen]

x/p_hou_^.E.a@`/ is now the canon pronunciation for “powe-er”

[delicate yarrow]

/pʰou̯.ɛ.aɚ/

[split grail]

gjskdlfs

[vague aspen]

despari

[split grail]

is this example sentence good

/understandable

[vague aspen]

yes

[split grail]

this is my favourite waso btw

[split grail]

for new example sentences, I want them to be like, general knowledge, things that all humans will hear and be like 'so true'

[golden rock]

idk, launching cows in the air is pretty expensive, making them mani

[split grail]

waso mani

[vague aspen]

why do people use mani meaning cow it’s not the farm age /lh

[split grail]

some people still farm ,.,,,,

[vague aspen]

yeah but dominant currency is money

[split grail]

not to everyone

[golden rock]

why are you bringing this up to a joke anyway

[split grail]

^^

soweli suli li mani ala tawa mi. taso mi jan pi ma tomo suli a. mi jo ala e soweli. taso jan pi ma tomo lili li jo e soweli la ona li mani tawa jan ni

tomo pan li weka e mi

[hot trout]

lipu Nasi li ken jo e nimi WAMMMMA anu sama - a, taso nasin nanpa li ken nasa a lon ona

[split grail]

WAMMMMA is nanpa seme

[grand marten]

wan ale mute mute mute mute ale= 18000

[split grail]

ahh

mi o kama sona e nasin nanpa pona..

[grand marten]

ale: +100 → ×100

ni li sona ale pi nasin nanpa [pona]

[split grail]

wawa

[upbeat summit]

[[a]] [[kin]] [[mu]] [[n]] [[o]] still need sitelen pona sections and i'm unsure what to put for them

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/a
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/kin
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/mu
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/n
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/o

[upbeat summit]

@split grail could you them

[split grail]

okie

mi ni

fkhdkdhd

[split grail]

I'm back and you nimisinned my keysmash

I feel like this is the toki pona equivalente of this meme

[split grail]

also I created [[Project:Word articles]] if you want to include anything there

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/Project:Word_articles

[upbeat summit]

Nice, that does make sense to be on a project page

[split grail]

lon a

btw yapppiii the name glyphs article got unpakala'd

[upbeat summit]

i

forgot about the diagonal-stem variants

{{sp|1=<span style="font-feature-settings:'ss17';">a kin n o</span>|font="sitelen seli kiwen asuki"}}

[split grail]

I did too

heck

[split grail]

I love threads in Discord, but I am going feral because they don't let you do Ctrl + F to search inside them

maybe there is an addon to fix this but aaaaaaaa

lipamanka just said 'o nano' and then it was

[hot trout]

ferret's claw

[split grail]

that I am aware

but I am a little idiot who goes out of their way for silly things

like getting a single citation that no one will read

(also in the hope that I find more in the way)

now I sleep, but tomorrow I start something wawa

[grand marten]

kala li unpa e lipu tan seme

[golden rock]

wouldnt you like to know weather boy

[split grail]

since I can't delete things, asking for the page for [[IPA]] be deleted (see talk page)

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/IPA

[hot trout]

mi weka e ona

[storm garnet]

it's copyright by default, I didn't specify the license otherwise

[split grail]

a sona

[split grail]

starting writing

[split grail]

hilarious

even more hilarious

but also you can't say that stuff here

[hot trout]

you'd have to say penis and testicles, I guess

[split grail]

this is An Encyclopedia. This glyph depicts an image of a Phallus and Testicles

or that

[dark tree]

y'all are so cool it's so fun to watch your progress on this lipu

[split grail]

no you're cool

[split grail]

Wikimedia Commons sometimes has some gems

[noble gulch]

Sorry I've been out of it lately: the end of the semester was really rough 😭

[hot trout]

sina kama la lipu li lon
sina ken pana e sona sina tawa lipu lon tenpo pi ken sina

[winter sparrow]

why be that fake tho

we aren't getting published with print encyclopedia

this should be written simply, to be useful to most people and especially useful to toki pona learners

[hot trout]

jan Deni li wile e nimi Dong e nimi Bollocks lon lipu a a

[winter sparrow]

This feels like the right tone lon pilin mi

honest and direct without pointless jargon

toki pona

[split grail]

I did write it directly

I was joking with that tone dkdhkdhd

see [[unpa]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/unpa

[split grail]

it is okay!!! try not to die from college

o pona

[noble gulch]

sina ale li jan pona. mi pali lipu lon poka sina la mi kama sona e ijo mute tan sina ale. sina ale li pona mute tawa mi tawa pilin mi.

olin tawa sina ale!

[split grail]

o olin 💖 sina ale li sona mute li pona mute

woe! kala sipije tawa sina!

[split grail]

translators curse

did MediaWiki change or am I going crazy

[upbeat summit]

actually we probably should

The sitelen pona glyph for unpa (󱥯) consists of a trefoil knot. Common interpretations include either male or female genatalia…

not great phrasing imo

…also not even spelled right

[grand marten]

lipu [Wikipedia] li ni

[upbeat summit]

(sin 𝑡 + 2 sin 2𝑡, cos 𝑡 − 2 cos 2𝑡) | 0 ≤ 𝑡 < 𝜏

[upbeat summit]

If we make pake and powe we have all UCSUR words

If we make oke and powe we have all uncommon words

I think we should make powe,,,,

[upbeat summit]

I might make a category "Pages needing reasons to need work"

[upbeat summit]

I have made a [[Category:Pages needing reasons to need work]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/Category:Pages_needing_reasons_to_need_work

[upbeat summit]

Added coordinates for [[ma pona]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/ma_pona

[upbeat summit]

Fun fact: interpreted in the simple counting system, mute° mute° in any direction could be anywhere in the world except for a patch of ocean that i believe is completely devoid of land?

[split grail]

rkegej

irl yes

[upbeat summit]

I'm not counting the Null Island buoy

[split grail]

if you think about it, it is a lonely kala

kala (ala°, ala°)

[upbeat summit]

k’ala

[split grail]

a uncommon!!

[upbeat summit]

a*!!*

[split grail]

does this sentence make sense btw

Common interpretations include either the {{w|penis}} or {{w|vagina}} alone and a depiction of {{w|sexual intersource|penetrative intercourse}}.

it is early in the morning, my English isn't Englishing

[upbeat summit]

ehh

my phrasing was supposed to be like

Common interpretations include an interpretation and another interpretation

if that sensemakes

[split grail]

yeah

[upbeat summit]

I guess you could say "It is commonly interpreted as either _, _, or _"

probably better ?

[split grail]

I'll just leave it as is,,,,,,,,,,,,

[upbeat summit]

…have i ever brought this up

[[File:apeja Jakob Vogel.jpg]] has a line at the bottom

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/File:apeja_Jakob_Vogel.jpg

[upbeat summit]

and is blurry

and a JPG

crying

[split grail]

gjslkfjd

go to [[Special:FileList]]

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/Special:FileList

[split grail]

I uploaded the whole image

so you can crop it yourself

(also you have brought this up)

[upbeat summit]

oh heyyyy wait a second

https://barrd.dev/article/convert-all-glyphs-of-a-font-to-individual-svg-files

apparently this Can be done

and would be vastly preferable

but i remember i tried to install FontForge in the past and somehow it didn't work

would anyone like to try

[split grail]

OH

I have FontForge

[upbeat summit]

👀

[split grail]

yapppiiii

[upbeat summit]

eeee

[upbeat summit]

clocked

i am stimming

[split grail]

gjsdklfjsdf

https://tenor.com/view/tbh-creature-autism-creature-gif-714744712347212691

what font do I do with this anyway

[upbeat summit]

Do you know if you can have it only do it for specific glyphs

linja pona would be nice for the glyphs that are relevant to that

[golden rock]

Hi I just put together a list of contributions ive done to the community over the years
since the wiki page is a pretty good place for that

[hot trout]

yeah that works

[upbeat summit]

sina sina

[split grail]

OMG

thank you Ke Tami you are our saviour 🩷

[hot trout]

I literally did what the link said

[split grail]

pona a 🩷

[upbeat summit]

Should i convert it into a table

[split grail]

I know but u are fast as heck

[hot trout]

I'd have to read up how selections can be made in FF

[golden rock]

do with it whatever you want, im just providing the info

[upbeat summit]

at everyone

[split grail]

I mean, if you can it is good to have like, all the glyphs

[hot trout]

(until you try to get all glyphs of Nishiki-teki)

[split grail]

if this font is compatible with it, upload everything to Wikimedia Commons, also because their upload wizard is vastly less painful

[split grail]

ok true,,

[hot trout]

a!
pali lili!
toki ilo open li weka la ni li ken

Which fonts and which glyphs are needed?

[split grail]

glyphs la all of them <3

all word glyphs that is

fonts hm

[hot trout]

is mayonnaise akesiv a word?

[split grail]

I mean,,

maybe

fonts la good candidates are (in no particular order)

• Fairfax fonts
• linja lipamanka
• Nishiki-teki
• sitelen seli lili
  they are all OFL so that's convinient :>

[hot trout]

What about name glyphs?

[split grail]

sure

all glyphs in sitelen pona!!

ok,.

[upbeat summit]

can it be done?!

can you convert pdf to hinduism

WAIT

we're gonna be able to fill in EVERY {{nimi}} template

with SP

[split grail]

yeah

yippppppppppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[hot trout]

tan pali suli pi jan Lepeka

[split grail]

thank you very much jan Lepeka

tell the sitelen sitelen guys to make more glyphs !!

[upbeat summit]

[[Category:Words with sitelen pona glyphs]] WILL BE COMPLETE

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/Category:Words_with_sitelen_pona_glyphs

[upbeat summit]

(it fills in by {{nimi}} template iirc)

[golden rock]

btw

only oke and powe missing

for full coverage of uncommons

[split grail]

yeesss

[split grail]

okay, you can upload them to Commons using [[c:Template:OFL]]
so {{OFL|Rebecca Bettencourt|YEAR|1.1}}

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/c:Template:OFL

[split grail]

I don't know what year it is

[upbeat summit]

We're tracking them at [[Project:Requests#Word article requests]] btw in case you knew not

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/Project:Requests#Word_article_requests

[upbeat summit]

We're very closeeee

[split grail]

indeed

[upbeat summit]

@hot trout where are you uploading the glyphs btw

[split grail]

(what have I've been saying)

[hot trout]

mi pana ala lon tenpo ni
mi pali taso e sitelen

[split grail]

a

[upbeat summit]

o pretty please,,

[hot trout]

ike li lon:
sitelen li toki ala e nimi ona

[split grail]

does it say the Unicode codepoint

[upbeat summit]

yes and something else

[split grail]

because then you could just run a script for it

I just realised, does this include combination glyphs?

[upbeat summit]

yeah

[split grail]

oshit

[upbeat summit]

it's glyphs not individual codepoints

[split grail]

yeah

that is cool

[golden rock]

any idea what might be wrong? im trying to add more words to the template

[upbeat summit]

I think the cdot template has a length limit, check if you're brushing up against that

[hot trout]

missing semicolons?

[golden rock]

💀 why does it have a length limit

[upbeat summit]

MediaWiki

[golden rock]

question

how is it easier to use cdot instead of... copypasting a centredot

[grand marten]

[ilo penpo o lukin ala]
i think it might be doing <li> for accessibility, not sure though
and anyway imo this should be handled by dynamicpagelist

[golden rock]

|list4={{tp|{{cdot|[[kijetesantakalu]];[[kin]];[[ku]];[[leko]];[[meli]]}}{{cdot|;[[mije]];[[monsuta]];[[n]];[[namako]];[[tonsi]]}}}}

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/kijetesantakalu
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/kin
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/ku
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/leko
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/meli
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/mije
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/monsuta
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/n
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/namako
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/tonsi

[golden rock]

even this breaks

oh ffs supanpo

[split grail]

gjsdkfsd

[golden rock]

actually

does ``{{tp|}}` by itself also do cdots

cause

that works

(and doesn't break)

[split grail]

no?

oh like

cdot tp kije tp kin tp ku etc. etc.

[golden rock]

no

[split grail]

e

[golden rock]

literally just

|list5={{tp|[[epiku]];[[kipisi]];[[lanpan]];[[meso]];[[misikeke]];[[oko]];[[soko]]}}

[random sable]

https://sona.pona.la/wiki/epiku
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/kipisi
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/lanpan
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/meso
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/misikeke
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/oko
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/soko

[golden rock]

shut the up supanpo

@split grail what do you think

[split grail]

o

[grand marten]

seme a

[split grail]

remove the list of words thing

[grand marten]

ilo {{tp}} o ni ala li ni tan seme

[split grail]

just change the link of 'Words' to the page 'List of words'

[golden rock]

fair enough

[split grail]

but otherwise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! love it

[golden rock]

i did a bit of a hack with non breaking spaces to make the first column appear wider but sdfgkjs its fiiine

[split grail]

talking about codepoints again btw
should we have a template for the PUA codepoints defined by jan Lepeka for Fairfax and ssk