#Standard Battalion Assets for maps

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scenic geyser
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In the wake of what seems to of been overspending and misuse of assets I think we should have a discussion surrounding the base battalion assets we should be afforded.

Our only current asset is a butcher LAV, that’s great and all but we have no transportation, no stalker or unarmed humvees etc, combine that with the heavy red air tendency atm to fly to fob all our asset s are getting blown up faster than we can recover supplies with them.

Ik we used to have soft top humvees which would would be ideal for this map,

Feedbacks definitely wanted so discuss

crisp wharf
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personally i think we should be looking at how we are using the assets, if we are misusing them as you said, we should be looking into teaching people how to use assets in ways that reduces the risk of losing them rather than asking for more battalion assets

livid fern
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Yeah on map start 1-4 went out in 3 Mraps where a single striker would have worked and 2 of them were lost really quickly.

Feels like when we know it's not an infinite supply situation we need to watch our assets better.

toxic warren
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what ive seen is that you guys are careless with how you guys use the assets you buy. i seen people freely get in a vic with there squads and rush out to the ao knowing well enough there is multiple red air still up only to die by them half way to the ao.

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you guys get 6k supplies on start and another 6k when you guys cap a capital. i dont think battalion assets are the issue i believe the issue is people see they got 6k supplies and think assets are expendable (in some cases they are) and start wasting them

scenic geyser
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^^

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Two demon assets in 10 hr span, one of which was in my opinion a pointless purchase was a LOS Little bird

dire mountain
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I agree, however atleast some stalker assets would be nice to have

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this map is really good for air transport and it's really a shame we don't get anything other than demon

scenic geyser
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Well demons not being bought by most 1-6s anymore

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Not me anyway, I was using first demon asset on launch, was killed hovering 150ft over fob by an ATGM from a bmp that slipped past platoon. Not sure how the next few got killed but one was most definitely manpad because it was a LOS

sly thistle
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The last one I saw was killed trying to find the target by flying directly over the point in the LOS and ate an igla

chilly mantle
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There was an incident the other day where a 1-6 said No to a purchase. So the person who asked switched to 6-6 to try and bypass the No.

Thankfully the Demon wasn't purchased at that time to my knowledge.

livid fern
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People just being stupid with air assets.

torn pollen
scenic geyser
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👀

serene jay
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Unarmored Humvees, especially the soft top transport variant, should be included in the build list. Their cost should be at or about the price range of a cheap transport, like an Ogre soft top transport or a MRZR to promote their use as a transport option, if not cheaper

rancid summit
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If the public playerbase isn't able to improve on it's own due to it's nature (being a public playerbase of constantly new players) then this state will either stay and degrade the experience or something will change. In the end of the day, it is what it is.

scenic geyser
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Unless we up the 1-6 requirement or something

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To a lot more hours

livid fern
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That would help in general but also the issue isn't 1-6 using the assets in a stupid manner it's the dudes in the field.

sly thistle
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But 6s have to approve the purchases and fielding off the assets

crisp wharf
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and trainings are how people usually figure out how to actually do shit

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plus most experienced players leave for something else, and this server is just the thing they play when theirs nothing better to do, because most people join the server because they saw the cool tactical shit from karmas videos, then see this and realise its not the cool tactical shit so join an actual milsim group that his it

rancid summit
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I really thought that the usage of vics would be self-explanantory, plus they're in the SOPs

crisp wharf
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yh but people see theres a gun, its got a little bit of armour, so just disregared everything about using it safely and end up pushing it straight into an obj or using it as a gun platform on a hill and end up losing it

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other people use it responsibly, then forget about it and leave it in the middle of a field

crisp wharf
idle delta
plush anvil
# scenic geyser Two demon assets in 10 hr span, one of which was in my opinion a pointless purch...

I agree the LOS one was a senseless buy and the way it was employed, not optimal either.

However the second one (with hellfires) I believe has been eaten by a restart, haven’t seen or heard anyone acknowledging it being lost.

As for the hellfire one, it’s a cheap and fool proof way of taking out armored targets with no risk to the airframe.

As long as you follow some simple rules, stay 3-6km away from the AO, select LOAL-HI, stay below 30m at all times, let 1-8/phantom/shadow laze for you. Line up the bird approximately towards where the target is, shoot, wait 6 seconds per kilometer of flight, voila, you’ve just killed something you can’t even see.

The only thing really that would kill it is if an airborne BG spawns in with fighters (which is a threat to any manned vehicle), but if you’re quick with coordinating with Harpy you should survive that too.

stone barn
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There used to be a time when someone lost an expensive asset they would slot ogre and farm supplies as a punishment. There was some accountability then. What we have now is the entire player base has to suffer for the actions of a few.

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Unarmed logistical assets shouldn’t be so scarce in an infantry-centric atmosphere.

stone barn
idle delta
stone barn
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which is why the report feature available to the player base is not reliable to address this. it needs to be monitored in game and when a pattern develops then it can be addressed. the only ones who can do that are odin's.

idle delta
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it doesn’t help that half of the assets we buy or lose aren’t properly documented in the correct places

serene jay
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I reassert that unarmored, basic bitch Humvee transports (the ones that carry 7+driver) should always be included in the build menu, and as dirt cheap as the inflatable boats (25 supply, 25 fuel) to ensure that there is always a cheap and readily available transport asset that the entire company can use

onyx radish
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^ This. For a couple nights all we had was 45 supplies, and we couldn't get jack. This would have helped a little.

open pier
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6-6 should be the only one able to buy assets now. I think this because new 1-6s are just authorizing a lot of quick and low though purchases. Take away the power from 1-6 and make it for only company commander can. Also gives more reason for 6-6 to be filled.

idle delta
open pier
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Gives more reason to slot 6-6 if your the only one who can buy

crisp wharf
idle delta
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plus what stops people from going 6-6 and buying dumb stuff. just restricting it to 6-6 won’t stop that because like i said, it’s usually not just new 1-6s

open pier
crisp wharf
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But how would a 6-6 buy assets if they dont have build perms

idle delta
crisp wharf
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That's fair but he said build so I thought he meant build and not approve

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Besides any new 1-6 can spend the 5 minutes to get 6-6, then you have the brand new 1-6 able to approve builds because he quickly slotted 6-6 or got a friend to

open pier
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6-6 Just needs to be more educated and strict on what they can buy. Have a limit or something.

crisp wharf
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you could say the exact same for 1-6s tho lmao

open pier
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Well if 6-6 is the is the only who can authorize. It would give more reason for it to be slotted

wispy acorn
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It's kind of a cringe/overcomplicated idea, but buying anything above a certain asset price could be done democratically in kc_command.

Let's say anything more than 1000 total sum of supplies or more than 500 supply.

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That wouldn't limit anyone buying small transports but would make it more transparent as to where suddenly the 3000k supply went

crisp wharf
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lmao, we still going to find a way to spend 3k in 1 hour

wispy acorn
crisp wharf
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or VLS

wispy acorn
crisp wharf
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lol

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we could get a whole lot of helos with that supplies

wispy acorn
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Let's not have this debate heredoggokek

crisp wharf
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lmao im an air assault guy, i will always petition for more helos

serene jay
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Inflatable boats

dire mountain
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lmao im a basic transport needs guy, i will always petition for more helos

plush anvil
untold night
scenic geyser
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There were a bunch of assets bought that were largely wasted

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Such as 2X LOS Little birds in less than 10hrs

low aspen
scenic geyser
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True that

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Bus why buy LOS lol

low aspen
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cause fun

fluid geyser
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Nice to see that nothing was accomplished from this as usual XD. Only statement we got was skill issue lol

low aspen
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plus we always make sure supplies will never 0

fluid geyser