#💻-building-a-pc | SteelSeries | Page 74

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:33 PM

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what happens if you put a 800 W on a 250 estimated watt build

gilded frost Oct 21, 2020, 4:33 PM

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What?

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:33 PM

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nothing

gilded frost Oct 21, 2020, 4:34 PM

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You get a 1,050 build

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:34 PM

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you'd just have extra power

gilded frost Oct 21, 2020, 4:34 PM

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He's talking about a power supply isn't he

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:34 PM

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yeah

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you'll only be wasting money

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for a psu of that caliber

gilded frost Oct 21, 2020, 4:35 PM

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You'd have over 3x what you need

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:35 PM

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on a 250w build

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:35 PM

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im gonna put solar panels on my build

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:35 PM

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and decreased efficiency

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so your electric bill might go up a little bit

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im gonna put solar panels on my build
@viral echo not a bad idea

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just dont let the actual pc get direct contact with the sun

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just keep it under the solar panels or something

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:38 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VG9qkX

System Builder

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ok what do u think of that

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wait i didnt take into account i dont have any fans

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:39 PM

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lol

crimson scroll Oct 21, 2020, 4:39 PM

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The nr400 includes 2

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:40 PM

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ohhh

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thats lit

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:41 PM

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its better

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but if the 3600 gets cheaper

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than definetely go for it

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i cant spell

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but

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anyways

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:41 PM

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wait i dont have any rgb on my setup

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so i don t have any farmes

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frames*

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:41 PM

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lmao

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found a monitor yet?

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:42 PM

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uh

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no

gilded frost Oct 21, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Does that ssd have dram

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:42 PM

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whats that

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:43 PM

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yeah

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wait

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idk

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let me check

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i thought you meant ssds in general

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:44 PM

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why is it 9k

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:44 PM

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im actual not sure

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idk some parts on pcp just have an absurd price

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:45 PM

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whats a good budget

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monitor

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144hz

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:45 PM

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i once found an i9 9900ks

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for 2k

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what size?

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curved?

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:45 PM

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16:9

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no

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:45 PM

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any extra features

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:45 PM

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not curved

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:45 PM

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g-sync

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or

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freesync

gilded frost Oct 21, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Not curved?!

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:45 PM

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whats g sync

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and free sync

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:45 PM

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.

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:45 PM

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i feel like curved just throws me off

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:45 PM

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it feels weird on your eyes at first

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but

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you'll get used to it

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:46 PM

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ok then sure

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any budget monitor

cedar herald Oct 21, 2020, 4:46 PM

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can i get a good monitor under 130 24 inch or less freesync

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:46 PM

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at 144hz

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16:(

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9*

crimson scroll Oct 21, 2020, 4:46 PM

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You can get 1080p 75hz monitors for around $100 on sale

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:46 PM

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wait ok but whats g ysnc and free sync

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:46 PM

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yeah

crimson scroll Oct 21, 2020, 4:46 PM

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And the absolute cheapest 1080p 144hz are around 150

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:46 PM

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yeah

cedar herald Oct 21, 2020, 4:47 PM

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g sync if u have nvidia gpu freesync if u have amd gpu

crimson scroll Oct 21, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Gsync and freesync are adaptive sync technologies that match monitor refresh rate to framerate

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That's a simplified explanation

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:47 PM

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but freesync can work with a nvidia gpu

crimson scroll Oct 21, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Also I'm using freesync over gsync on my 1080ti

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I would just look up the Wikipedia pages for gsync and freesync

gilded frost Oct 21, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I saw this 1080p 144hz on micro center the other day, $130. not something I would want though

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monitor

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https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-tuf-gaming-vg24vq-90lm0570-b011b0-23-6/p/N82E16824281027?item=N82E16824281027&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-gaming+monitors-_-N82E16824281027&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuL_8BRCXARIsAGiC51CJdxxjiV53RKSTP8HYV1OCWezuxFdVrFfc3uBKakC6YnzHv_teViYaAtqREALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

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180

crimson scroll Oct 21, 2020, 4:53 PM

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I thi k it's alright for the price

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:53 PM

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i mean

crimson scroll Oct 21, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Especially considering the stand looks about on par with my 2719dgf

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It's rare to find budget monitors with great stands

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:53 PM

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thoughts on the c27g1?

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:53 PM

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im really only gonna run around 120 and 60-80 for the games i want

crimson scroll Oct 21, 2020, 4:53 PM

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It's fine

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:53 PM

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o

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 4:55 PM

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is the rx 580 good

gilded frost Oct 21, 2020, 4:56 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-vg248qg-90lmgg901q022eul-24/p/N82E16824236978

.5 Ms Response time
165 Hz (OC)
G-Sync

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The top monitor is curved I believe, doesn't look like it.

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 4:57 PM

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the rx580 is a good gpu

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but the 5600xt is better

cedar herald Oct 21, 2020, 4:58 PM

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nooooo

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wait for 6900xtl

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 5:00 PM

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hm

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ok

gilded frost Oct 21, 2020, 5:02 PM

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The 6900qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 5:02 PM

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yes!

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 5:06 PM

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whats a 6900qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm

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is it good

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 5:08 PM

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yeah

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best of the best

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 5:09 PM

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makes sense

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what is undervolting

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 5:10 PM

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i know what it means

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but its hard for me to explain

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i think you'll find more answers on the web

crimson scroll Oct 21, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Running a card at a lower voltage than stock

viral echo Oct 21, 2020, 5:18 PM

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oh

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is that bad

calm forge Oct 21, 2020, 5:18 PM

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no not exactly

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it can reduce heat

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but it'll have less performance

crimson scroll Oct 21, 2020, 5:20 PM

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not necessarily

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power budgets set by manufacturers can be higher than necessary

coarse cipher Oct 21, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Any suggestions on my gaming pc build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QPwHNP

System Builder

sturdy comet Oct 21, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Yeah, where you need everything for

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For what you need a 3700x, 32gb ram, Windows not needed, overpriced mobo & ssd, bad case

gilded frost Oct 21, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Over priced ram
Case has horrible air flow
You should get a hard drive, if you’re using it for gaming you’ll need it eventually.
You can get windows ten for $13 on third party websites
You’ll find a much nicer and cheaper 240 HZ monitor else where besides alien ware

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Motherboard is ridiculous, but it’s a pretty good motherboard, especially for gaming with all the USB ports

devout wolf Oct 21, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Any suggestions on my gaming pc build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QPwHNP
@coarse cipher a few things
good motherboard choice; but just go b550 aorus pro unless you need the pcie lanes
ram is pretty dang expensive ngl
samsung ssds are overpriced as hell, just grab a silicon power a80 for $110
change the case, unless you have an interdimensional source of airflow
change the psu to an antec earthwatts pro gold unit or something

this last one is pretty opinion based tbh
but 240hz is useless over 144hz; there is no noticeable difference at all. You're better off grabbing a 1440p144hz display (especially for a 3080... it's a 1440p-4k card)

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also i'm curious as to what your use case it

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My recommendations for cases

4 included fans:
Bitfenix Nova Mesh TG - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KgbCmG
3 included fans:
be quiet! 500DX - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3W6qqs
Corsair 220T Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wj4BD3
Corsair 275R Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ycbCmG
Corsair 4000X - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jNCFf7
Cougar MX330-G Air - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7fn8TW
Lancool 215
Lancool II Mesh - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PmZzK8
P400A Digital - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FP3mP6
P500A DRGB - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GmhmP6
**TD500 Mesh **- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gfn8TW
2 included fans:
Cooler Master NR600 - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbqhP6
Corsair 4000D Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WBVG3C
Metallic Gear Neo Air - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pwzFf7

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something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MXRBbh

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lean jackal Oct 21, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Included fans with any case are generally trash that will be noisy and end up rattling like an old cement mixer after some time. Go with the case that has the best build quality and air flow, buy separate fans that do what you need, look into the differences between high flow fans and static pressure fans, work out what you need and make sure they have good reviews.

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Corsair fans are absolutely awful, I have 7 of them from previous builds and they all rattle and vibrate... I only use them out of desperation on my bodged together "make do and mend" system while I build a new rig.

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Corsair cases themselves however are very nice.

devout wolf Oct 21, 2020, 10:31 PM

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most seperate fans are the ones included in cases ._.

lean jackal Oct 21, 2020, 10:33 PM

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the cheap ones are for sure. You aren't getting a set of Noctua PWM controlled fans with any case

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even Corsair, you won't get their higher end fans with the case, not that they are that much better.

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Like I look up the corsair fans that are available to buy on their own, like their ML140, the magnetic levitation ones with rubber isolation mounts... compared to the sleeve bearing, no isolation mount, unbalanced turds that came with my case last week...

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 12:40 AM

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arctic liquid freezer 420mm coming out

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time to grab those p500a

elder marsh Oct 22, 2020, 8:29 AM

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I’m looking for good 144hz monitors

devout wolf Oct 22, 2020, 8:33 AM

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1080p?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pXMTwP/

MSI Optix G241 23.8" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor

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i hate recommending MSI but it's the only decent 144hz monitor under $200

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this is a 27" one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gByqqs/

Acer VG270 Pbiip 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor

elder marsh Oct 22, 2020, 8:41 AM

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Yes 1080p

sturdy comet Oct 22, 2020, 10:50 AM

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27'' 1080p sucks tho

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pixel stretching

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if you are sitting close to it its pretty bad to look at it

tranquil crest Oct 22, 2020, 11:09 AM

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I mean it’s been built for a while but here’s the whole set up

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radiant river Oct 22, 2020, 11:46 AM

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I mean it’s been built for a while but here’s the whole set up
@tranquil crest hey! you should invest in a L shaped corner desk and space out a bit :) you can find some at ikea for like less than 50ish bucks? but yeah a corner desk would look great with the set up + some accessories

gilded frost Oct 22, 2020, 11:54 AM

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Not always, it also would take up space that he lacks already

coarse cipher Oct 22, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Should I not get the 3080 if I get a 240hz 1080p monitor for FPS gaming ?

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 12:29 PM

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wdym

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if you're getting a 3080 you should probably get a 240hz monitor to go along with it

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but the difference between 144 and 240 aren't really noticeable

coarse cipher Oct 22, 2020, 12:34 PM

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Other people have said that the 3080 is for 1440p and 4K. So would you recommend 144hz 1440p monitor?

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 12:34 PM

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you should only get a 240hz if you have a high budget and have a gpu that will get enough frames to play on 240fps

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Other people have said that the 3080 is for 1440p and 4K. So would you recommend 144hz 1440p monitor?
@coarse cipher curved? or

coarse cipher Oct 22, 2020, 12:35 PM

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The one I’m looking at getting is not curved

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 12:35 PM

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what size

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and yeah

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i would recommend getting a 1440p 144hz monitor to pair with the 3080

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and having a curved monitor just makes you feel more immersed in the gaming

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but it feels weird on your eyes at first glance

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but doesn't take long to get used to

coarse cipher Oct 22, 2020, 12:37 PM

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I have a curved right now that is 60hz. I play on Xbox right now but am building a pc so I need to upgrade.

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 12:37 PM

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maybe you could keep the 60hz monitor as a second monitor

coarse cipher Oct 22, 2020, 12:38 PM

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That’s what I’m gonna do

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 12:38 PM

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so non curved right?

coarse cipher Oct 22, 2020, 12:38 PM

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The monitor I’m looking at is the Alienware one that all the major FPS gamers use.

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It’s non curved

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 12:39 PM

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you should stray from alienware monitors

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other companies make 1440p 144hz monitors that offer the same if not more performance

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do you want an ips panel?

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also what size and whats your budget

coarse cipher Oct 22, 2020, 12:41 PM

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I’d be limited to 144 FPS tho right? I also just started building and looking into this stuff so I’m not sure what a ips panel is haha.

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 12:42 PM

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well an ips panel is the best type of panel you can get

coarse cipher Oct 22, 2020, 12:42 PM

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I believe it’s 27 and I don’t plan on spending more than 500. Preferably lower

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 12:42 PM

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for color accuracy

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and just overall better pictures

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but they're not as fast as va or tn panels

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va panels on the other hand

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are blazing fast

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but dont have a lot of color accuracy

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and just look bad

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tn panels are a combination of ips and va

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so tn panels are balanced you could say

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I believe it’s 27 and I don’t plan on spending more than 500. Preferably lower
@coarse cipher alr

coarse cipher Oct 22, 2020, 12:43 PM

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I’m trying to be more competitive in FPS games like cod. I do however play story based games some too.

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 12:44 PM

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if your budget is 500

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you could probably go for a 240hz

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oh yeah btw

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do you want g-sync?

coarse cipher Oct 22, 2020, 12:45 PM

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I heard the eye can’t tell a difference between 144 and 240 but could it still make a difference in like smoothness and seeing people earlier?

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 12:46 PM

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uh

elder marsh Oct 22, 2020, 12:46 PM

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Wait what 😂

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 12:46 PM

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240hz still has a faster refresh rate than 144hz

coarse cipher Oct 22, 2020, 12:46 PM

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Am I not making since😂

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 12:46 PM

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but you cant really notice the difference between 240hz

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and 144

coarse cipher Oct 22, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Sense

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 12:47 PM

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until you compare them in something like ufotester

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you will notice that the 240fps ufo will travel slightly smoother

elder marsh Oct 22, 2020, 12:48 PM

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I need a mouse

calm ore Oct 22, 2020, 12:48 PM

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get one then

elder marsh Oct 22, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Suggestions?

calm ore Oct 22, 2020, 12:49 PM

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sure

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get the rival 3

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cheap and light

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i have one

elder marsh Oct 22, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Noted

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 12:52 PM

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nahrival 3 wireless

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 1:07 PM

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@coarse cipher https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=42638

Acer Nitro VG271U Pbmiipx 27" WQHD (2560 x 1440) IPS AMD Radeon...

The Gate of Smooth GamingIn competitive gaming, every frame matters. Introducing Acer's VG271U gaming monitor - the WQHD (2560 x 1440) resolution monitor that can keep up with your game play. Thro

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you can probably get that

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but I have never seen this retailer before

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so

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take some caution if you are going to buy it

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but the website looks legit

lean quarry Oct 22, 2020, 2:00 PM

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AOC CQ32G1 is this a good monitor for 1440

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 2:56 PM

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monoprice is a legit site

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 2:59 PM

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oh

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ok thanks

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 3:19 PM

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@coarse cipher another suggestion and the monitor I'm personally going with for my new build https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012015?Item=N82E16824012015

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 3:22 PM

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lol i saw that earlier

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its over 300

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and its a va panel

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so thats hwy i didnt recomend it

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@static pecan

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he had a budget of 500 so i decided to go with an ips panel

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 3:23 PM

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A) It's IPS

B) It has much better build quality than that Acer lol

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 3:25 PM

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oh.

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it is ips

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lol

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 3:25 PM

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also i wouldn't dismiss something just because it's VA

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each panel technology has its own pros and cons

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 3:26 PM

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yeah ik

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Made a build for someone, they don't want it to be super powerful, just powerful enough to run games like sims and others. Can someone tell me if its good? Here are the specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MMBjy4

System Builder

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 4:54 PM

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if hes just playing sims

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he'll be fine with a 2600

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but if he wants to stick witht he 3600

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just get the regular 3600

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the 3600x just has a higher clock speed

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 4:55 PM

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tru

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 4:55 PM

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also for sims hed be fine with a 1660ti right?

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 4:55 PM

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sims and some other games that i dont think are that powerful

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 4:55 PM

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i dont recall sims needing a 2060

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 4:55 PM

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its the pc they want to keep

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for a while

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so i figured an msi 2060 would do it

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 4:56 PM

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stay away from msi

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 4:56 PM

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sir my laptop is msi TrollTom

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 4:56 PM

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@dreamy zodiac "Sims and others" isn't very specific, but switch the 3600X for the 3600, you can find better RAM kits from G Skill for around the same price without RGB, at least get a small SSD for the boot drive in addition to the 2TB HDD, $350 for a 2060 is outrageous. Look for an RX5600XT for $300 or below

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 4:56 PM

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jk

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 4:56 PM

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And yeah, avoid MSI

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 4:57 PM

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yeah i dont recall sims needing a 3600 and a 2060

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Also with a 3600 go B550 instead of A520

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 4:57 PM

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i built it close to their budget, i think its like 800

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ok

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 4:57 PM

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yeah if he wants it to be future proof

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just get a b550

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 4:57 PM

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yeah i think thats how they want it

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Also better features, VRMs, and power delivery

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 4:58 PM

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also

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you might wanna upgrade the psu

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 4:58 PM

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the msi tomahawk b450?

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or the other one

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 4:58 PM

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nvidia recommends 650-750

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 4:58 PM

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PSU is fine that's only for 30 series lmao

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 4:58 PM

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hm

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 4:58 PM

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this one right

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 4:59 PM

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no

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b559

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b550

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 4:59 PM

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oh

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 4:59 PM

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You don't need more than 500W for an $800 build

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Also the DS3H is a pretty meh board

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:00 PM

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he can get a 1tb ssd for 50 more

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Best choice would be to get a 500GB as a boot drive and for general program storage, etc and the games they play most frequently then use the HDD for mass file storage

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:00 PM

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yeah

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 5:01 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9C2mqp

System Builder

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ok changed it up a bit

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:01 PM

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you could try getting a 5600xt

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but their drivers are pretty bad

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for their gpus

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Drivers are fine now

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At least for most of the RX5000 cards

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:02 PM

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and if you are getting a radeon card try to stay away from blower ones

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 5:02 PM

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?

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:02 PM

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blower design cards have only 1 fan

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so theyre not really efficient

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 5:03 PM

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so get more fans?

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 5:03 PM

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@dreamy zodiac https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n4ZzK8/sapphire-radeon-rx-5600-xt-6-gb-pulse-video-card-11296-01-20g

Sapphire Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB PULSE Video Card

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 5:03 PM

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ok changed it out

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:04 PM

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he could get the thicc II pro

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for 3 dollars more

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on b&h

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 5:04 PM

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x570 and b550 are only futureproof up to zen 3 anyways

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 5:04 PM

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True. Depends on which card your friend likes the look of more @dreamy zodiac https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dk7p99/xfx-radeon-rx-5600-xt-6-gb-thicc-ii-pro-video-card-rx-56xt6df46

XFX Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB THICC II Pro Video Card

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:05 PM

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yeah

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 5:05 PM

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I personally like the all black design better and I'm really hoping XFX keeps that design for the RX6000 cards

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:06 PM

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5700xt raw II

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or thic III

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because they both look nice to me

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 5:06 PM

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back

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wait wut

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:06 PM

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and im planning to upgrade from my 1660ti to a 5700xt

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 5:07 PM

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@dreamy zodiac both RX5600XT cards I linked are good it mostly just depends on which design your friend would like more in the PC as there's really no other difference between the two cards

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:08 PM

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i personally think the thicc II looks cleaner

dreamy zodiac Oct 22, 2020, 5:08 PM

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ok

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ill send them the build and see

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 5:08 PM

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👌

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:10 PM

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https://www.google.com/shopping/product/7231644522050710486?psb

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thoughts on this?

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obviously i wont buy it off google

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https://www.newegg.com/p/1FT-0010-000G3?item

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and this.

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 5:11 PM

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isn't the raw II the one that has terrible thermals

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the naming scheme is terrible i can't remember which one they "fixed"

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:11 PM

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not sure

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 5:12 PM

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This is the one I was going to use in my 5700XT build https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tgNgXL/xfx-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-triple-dissipation-video-card-rx-57xt83ld8

XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Triple Dissipation Video Card

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Now I'm waiting for RX6000 tho

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:13 PM

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visually

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the thicc III

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looks the same

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with just white accents

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 5:13 PM

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at some of those prices i would just get a sapphire nitro or pulse

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:14 PM

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wait

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what the difference

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between a 5700

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 5:14 PM

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The one I linked was sitting at $380 for like 4 months or more lol

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:14 PM

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and a 5700xt

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Just recently went up to $400

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5700 is just a slowed down 5700XT

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:14 PM

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o

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 5:15 PM

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You can flash an XT bios on a regular 5700

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 5:15 PM

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won't be the same though

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so don't go into buying a 5700 thinking you can get a 5700xt

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Obviously not, I'm just saying it's possible lol

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 5:16 PM

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yeah

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Also the THICC III Ultra and the card I linked are the same designs, but the THICC III has silver accents where the other is all black

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And also cheaper lel

calm forge Oct 22, 2020, 5:19 PM

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yeah

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lol

stoic walrus Oct 22, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Could someone help me with Gigabyte TRX40 AORUS XTREME compatible ram?

I ideally want to go with Corsair DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB 128 GB (8 x 16 GB) DDR4-3800 CL19 Memory as i like the design however the code CMT128GX4M8X3800C19 isn't listed as compatible here https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_trx40-aorus-xtreme_200304.pdf

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 6:00 PM

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it's probably compatible

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mobo manufacturers can't test every single possible combination

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why 3800cl19 though?

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that's pretty much functionally equivalent to 3600cl18 or 3200cl16

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also what are you using the system for

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the dominator platinum isn't ecc ram and you may want that for specific applications, especially if you're looking at threadripper + 128gb ram

gilded frost Oct 22, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Trx is only thread ripper compatible right? I was originally looking into one but decided not too

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 6:45 PM

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yeah

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so anything above 3950x for zen2

viral echo Oct 22, 2020, 7:14 PM

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when does zen3 come out

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Nov 5

viral echo Oct 22, 2020, 7:15 PM

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is it good

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 7:17 PM

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wait for third party benchmarks but it's a decent leap forward compared to Zen 2

astral belfry Oct 22, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Hi guys, I’m such a noob at anything pc related but I am getting one soon so I wanna know if I should build it or buy a pre built one

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 9:33 PM

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are you interested in saving money? do you have the time and patience to learn?

astral belfry Oct 22, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Well I am very busy with school and other sports things so I think I wanna buy a prebuilt one

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 9:35 PM

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prebuilts are generally more expensive than building your own, but have the benefit of an all in one warranty for people who can't be bothered to learn or don't have the time

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I would say that you get out of building a pc what you put into it

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you can certainly learn about pc building in a short amount of time, depending on your aptitude for learning new things

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i can't speak for your time management and how busy you are with school and sports so if you think you can't, then go for a prebuilt

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But i will say that it can be very rewarding, and you can dedicate an hour or even half an hour a day to learning about pcs and you'll be able to build one quickly

astral belfry Oct 22, 2020, 9:37 PM

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That sounds cool, but it’s just that especially with online school, it is hard for me to keep track of that

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Thank you for helping me tho I appreciate it a lot

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 9:37 PM

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no prob

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if you have questions or do decide to build, feel free to ask questions here

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and if you decide to buy a prebuilt I can part out and see how much more you're paying and if it's worth it

astral belfry Oct 22, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Thank you!!

fierce plaza Oct 22, 2020, 10:07 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lq2xGq

System Builder

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if anyone builds this im going to cry

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:20 PM

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i mean

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x570 isn't compatible with zen 1

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so you could physically build it, but you wouldn't be able to do anything

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also yes, that is a very mismatched system

fierce plaza Oct 22, 2020, 10:24 PM

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yes it is

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just different companies everywhere

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nzxt, g.skill, evga, corsair, samsung, crucial, amd, msi

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its just so bad

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:25 PM

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uh

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different companies isn't what i was talking about

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it's fine to have different companies in a build

fierce plaza Oct 22, 2020, 10:26 PM

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well yeah

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:26 PM

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good luck making a build from one company entirely

fierce plaza Oct 22, 2020, 10:26 PM

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but just so many

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:26 PM

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i was talking about the vastly underpowered cpu compared to every other component

fierce plaza Oct 22, 2020, 10:26 PM

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ltt - all msi pc build

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:26 PM

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and then also picking middling components on the "high end"

fierce plaza Oct 22, 2020, 10:26 PM

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this build is a joke

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:26 PM

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an all msi build is impossible

fierce plaza Oct 22, 2020, 10:27 PM

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people with brains will pick an actual cpu that works well with the 3090

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who is going to use a 3090 with a ryzen 3 1200

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:27 PM

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you need a ssd or hard drive manufacturer that actually makes their own stuff and doesn't source from another company

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same goes for the psu

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and guess what? those two are pretty mutually exclusive

fierce plaza Oct 22, 2020, 10:27 PM

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si

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:27 PM

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therefore, no all "x" company build possible

fierce plaza Oct 22, 2020, 10:27 PM

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well yes

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but you can still get a one company branded pc

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:28 PM

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also you could have tried harder

fierce plaza Oct 22, 2020, 10:28 PM

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maybe

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idk

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:28 PM

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put in a lian li, phanteks, be quiet, etc. case

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you've doubled up on nzxt components

fierce plaza Oct 22, 2020, 10:28 PM

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i dont plan on actually trying this

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it was just a joke

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compatibility filter broke lmao

static pecan Oct 22, 2020, 10:30 PM

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I mean...LTT had the "all MSI gaming build" where literally everything but the ram, PSU, and storage was from MSI lol

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Including all the peripherals + monitor

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:40 PM

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the cpu couldn't have been from msi

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pretty sure corsair would be a better pick for an "all x company build" anyways

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you can get ram, storage, case, psu, and cooling as opposed to msi's motherboard, case, cooling, gpu

young mauve Oct 22, 2020, 10:44 PM

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mmm yeah

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but why msi of all companies???

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bruh

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:45 PM

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i mean, ltt probably chose msi because they were sponsored

young mauve Oct 22, 2020, 10:45 PM

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yeah but still

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:46 PM

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still...what

young mauve Oct 22, 2020, 10:46 PM

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the whole msi thing rn is screwed up and ltts kinda endorsing it a bit?

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idk

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:46 PM

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sponsored videos have to be collaborated on

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i didn't watch the video

gilded frost Oct 22, 2020, 10:46 PM

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They did that with Ali express but with the way they expressed how they felt, there’s no way they were sponsored by them

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:46 PM

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but it's not like you all of a sudden get a sponsorship

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so if it was sponsored it was planned in advance

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and they may not have wanted to pull it

young mauve Oct 22, 2020, 10:47 PM

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well ltt has sponsors every vid tho

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:47 PM

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also ltt is big enough to not care

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which is unfortunate

young mauve Oct 22, 2020, 10:47 PM

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yeah true

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:47 PM

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but it's hard to see them being affected by msi blackmail

young mauve Oct 22, 2020, 10:47 PM

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mhmm

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:47 PM

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they don't even have to do reviews on msi products

young mauve Oct 22, 2020, 10:47 PM

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true

fierce plaza Oct 22, 2020, 10:47 PM

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pog

young mauve Oct 22, 2020, 10:47 PM

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pogchamp

fierce plaza Oct 22, 2020, 10:47 PM

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ltt cant be corrupted

crimson scroll Oct 22, 2020, 10:47 PM

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that's...not what i said

young mauve Oct 22, 2020, 10:47 PM

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ahahaha

gilded frost Oct 22, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Sounds familiar to Gordon Ramsey Kitchen Nightmares, lol

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You go to a restaurant [you buy a product] and you either love it or yell at who made it

fierce plaza Oct 22, 2020, 11:05 PM

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oh god

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im watching the "all msi" pc build from ltt rn

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ah yes

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solid materials infront of the fans

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what a great idea

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this will increase our airflow by 300%

devout wolf Oct 22, 2020, 11:25 PM

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msi does have a good case

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the forge 100r

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kinda ugly but it has airflow

static pecan Oct 23, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Yeah the LTT video was sponsored by MSI lmao

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 3:26 PM

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im pretty sure someone got a shout out on ltt for paying them

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lmao

noble oak Oct 23, 2020, 4:53 PM

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should i wait for the new amd cpus
or go with i7 10th gen or ryzen 7 (i know amd is better price/performance but i dont really care)

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 5:01 PM

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well

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depends on what you're using the pc for

noble oak Oct 23, 2020, 5:04 PM

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playing games

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maybe streaming too but not full time just for fun

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 5:05 PM

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if you're solely playing games than just stick with intel.

noble oak Oct 23, 2020, 5:05 PM

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but the thing is

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i7 10th gen is 100 bucks more than the ryzen 7

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 5:06 PM

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what amd processor are you gonna get

noble oak Oct 23, 2020, 5:07 PM

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ryzen 7 3700x if i go with amd
i7 10700k if intel

arctic delta Oct 23, 2020, 5:08 PM

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I know this isnt really a PC building support server but I was wondering if anyone here would be willing to help me with a PC issue?

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ping me if so

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 5:09 PM

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I know this isnt really a PC building support server but I was wondering if anyone here would be willing to help me with a PC issue?
@arctic delta with what?

arctic delta Oct 23, 2020, 5:09 PM

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im trying to help a friend build his first PC, and we are having trouble getting windows installed

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the motherboard is the MSI B450 Tomahawk Max

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 5:10 PM

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what part of getting windows installed are you stuck at

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@noble oak are you getting the unlocked i7 or

arctic delta Oct 23, 2020, 5:10 PM

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I just realized he may need a BIOS update. frick

noble oak Oct 23, 2020, 5:11 PM

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yes i think its the unlocked one

arctic delta Oct 23, 2020, 5:11 PM

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when the USB is inserted and the PC booted it wont go to windows installation screen it just goes to black screen with blinking underscore

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 5:12 PM

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black screen with a blinking underscore?

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 5:12 PM

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select the usb as boot priority in the bios

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it's trying to boot off of something else

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 5:13 PM

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when i first built my pc it was just stuck in a boot cycle

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i fixed it tho

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well

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the 10th gen i7 has a higher base clock speed

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 5:15 PM

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clock speeds don't matter across cpus with different IPCs

noble oak Oct 23, 2020, 5:15 PM

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i know but is that worth paying 100 bucks more than the ryzen 7 3700x

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 5:15 PM

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the i5-10400 on z490 can perform like a 3700x in games that rely on single core

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if you don't need 8 cores, go with the 10600k instead

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 5:15 PM

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but if you are going with the 3700x

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i would recommend saving up money

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and buying one of their new cpus

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 5:19 PM

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pray that the 5600x is able to beat the 10600k and 3700x lol

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 5:19 PM

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lol

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hopefully

noble oak Oct 23, 2020, 5:19 PM

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wait shouldnt it be out by december

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 5:19 PM

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nov 5

noble oak Oct 23, 2020, 5:19 PM

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oh

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nice

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i guess ill see if its worth it

arctic delta Oct 23, 2020, 5:20 PM

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select the usb as boot priority in the bios
@devout wolf did that, nothing changed

noble oak Oct 23, 2020, 5:20 PM

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if it is then ill get the 5600x in december because thats when i get to build

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 5:20 PM

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but just wait until 3rd party benchmarks come out

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 5:20 PM

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@devout wolf did that
@arctic delta the one labelled UEFI?

arctic delta Oct 23, 2020, 5:20 PM

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yup

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 5:20 PM

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is it a sandisk cruzer blade by any chance

arctic delta Oct 23, 2020, 5:20 PM

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im not sure

noble oak Oct 23, 2020, 5:21 PM

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are there any leaked prices or official ones by amd?

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 5:21 PM

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official

arctic delta Oct 23, 2020, 5:21 PM

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im doing this all over discord so its difficult

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 5:21 PM

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are there any leaked prices or official ones by amd?
@noble oak yeah they announced the prices

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Ryzen 9 5950X $799 16 / 32 3.4 / 4.9 GHz 105W 64MB (2x32)
Ryzen 9 5900X $549 12 / 24 3.7 / 4.8 GHz 105W 64MB (2x32)
Ryzen 7 5800X $449 8 / 16 3.8 / 4.7 GHz 105W 32MB (2x16)
Ryzen 5 5600X $299 6 / 12 3.7 / 4.6 GHz

noble oak Oct 23, 2020, 5:21 PM

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oh

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thats not too bad

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 5:21 PM

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yeah

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 5:22 PM

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we'll see

noble oak Oct 23, 2020, 5:22 PM

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450 for ryzen 7

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 5:22 PM

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the 5600x is more expensive than the 3700x and 10600k

noble oak Oct 23, 2020, 5:22 PM

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lo

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 5:22 PM

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it's obv not gonna beat the 3700x in multicore

arctic delta Oct 23, 2020, 5:22 PM

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quietly dont

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 5:22 PM

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its 100 more than the 3600

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 5:22 PM

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only

noble oak Oct 23, 2020, 5:22 PM

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only

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 5:22 PM

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50% more

arctic delta Oct 23, 2020, 5:22 PM

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ONLY

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 5:23 PM

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ahem

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 5:23 PM

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dyno'd kekw

calm forge Oct 23, 2020, 5:23 PM

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what?

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you saw nothing

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wdym

vast crescent Oct 23, 2020, 5:25 PM

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K

crimson scroll Oct 23, 2020, 6:26 PM

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considering "only" $100 is a third of the price

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that's a massive jump

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and it gets worse if we look at the 3600 as the baseline, then it's a 50% increase

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 6:28 PM

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considering "only" $100 is a third of the price
half the price of the 3600

crimson scroll Oct 23, 2020, 6:29 PM

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right, my third sentence

gilded frost Oct 23, 2020, 7:44 PM

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I see it as, the Ryzen 5 will be as good as this Ryzen 7, the Ryzen 7 will be good as this Ryzen 9, and Ryzen 9 will blow everything else out

crimson scroll Oct 23, 2020, 7:45 PM

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mmm

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maybe

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but in that case, why would you buy a 5600x over a 3700x

devout wolf Oct 23, 2020, 8:35 PM

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right, my third sentence
@crimson scroll yeah i read that but couldn't delete my message cause it took 6 minutes to send lol my bad

crimson scroll Oct 23, 2020, 8:44 PM

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rip

lavish kraken Oct 24, 2020, 12:14 AM

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https://www.gskill.com/product/165/326/1562840280/F4-3600C16Q-64GTZNC does this only work for amd?

G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

F4-3600C16Q-64GTZNC-G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

G.SKILL

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also is it good for gaming?

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232865?Description=64 gb g.skill trident z 3600 mhz&cm_re=64_gb g.skill trident z 3600 mhz-_-20-232-865-_-Product&quicklink=true says its for amd ryzen but trying to make an intel build

static pecan Oct 24, 2020, 12:34 AM

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All that means is it's certified to work on Ryzen CPUs and motherboards. Literally looking through the website you linked will tell you what Intel boards it supports along with which AMD boards

crimson scroll Oct 24, 2020, 1:16 AM

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"good for gaming" isn't really a thing for ram

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There's not really distinguishing features outside of frequency and latency

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Higher frequency and lower latency will be better for gaming but after a certain point you get diminishing returns

noble oak Oct 24, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Do I need to turn in v sync for my game if I have high fps?

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Ping me

cedar herald Oct 24, 2020, 1:31 AM

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what is the cheapest pc i can get with a 3070 and good quality parts

gilded frost Oct 24, 2020, 5:06 AM

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probably a grand or a grand and a half

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 11:22 AM

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Do I need to turn in v sync for my game if I have high fps?
@noble oak if you are getting screen tearing and don’t have gsync/freesync yes

rocky moat Oct 24, 2020, 12:36 PM

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if my refresh rate is the exact same as my frames i dont rly need v sync right

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?

pulsar fossil Oct 24, 2020, 1:24 PM

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Not if you don't get any tearing

tacit socket Oct 24, 2020, 3:28 PM

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What do yall think about thus list

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

System Builder

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Im aiming towards a 1000 pc budget but i can go a little over that

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 3:37 PM

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wrong URL

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502509259699781632/738541743795994736/unknown.png

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copy the bottom one

noble oak Oct 24, 2020, 4:09 PM

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difference between ryzen 7 3700x and ryzen 7 3800xt ?
im considering 3800xt because it comes with far cry 6 for free

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 4:48 PM

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almost nothing

crimson scroll Oct 24, 2020, 4:49 PM

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what's the price difference between the two for you?

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if it's like $10, go for the 3800xt imo

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otherwise just stick with the 3700x

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 4:53 PM

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yeah normally it's more like a $125 difference

noble oak Oct 24, 2020, 6:18 PM

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like 40 bucks but the game is probably like 60-70 bucks at launch so its a good deal in my opinion, but anyway ive just ordered the ram and i noticed something

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so its 3600mhz cl19

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and i noticed that theres a cl16 version that was more expensive

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and i got the cl19 one

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is there a huge difference between the two?

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as in like speed idk much about ram

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 6:23 PM

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oh there is a massive difference

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3600cl19 is slower than 3200cl16

noble oak Oct 24, 2020, 6:23 PM

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so i've made a bad choice?

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if so i can stop the order and get the cl16

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 6:27 PM

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would be a good idea

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sounds like g.skill sniper x

noble oak Oct 24, 2020, 6:28 PM

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no

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g.skill trident z royal

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 6:28 PM

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huh lol

noble oak Oct 24, 2020, 6:28 PM

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thats the ram

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 6:29 PM

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yeah you'd be better off cancelling it and getting this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4JBhP6/crucial-ballistix-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4bl

Crucial Ballistix RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

noble oak Oct 24, 2020, 6:29 PM

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well if the difference is as huge as ur saying it is ig ill have to go from 32gb to 16gb just because of that difference

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 6:29 PM

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oh wait one sec

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dHjJ7P/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gtzrx

G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

noble oak Oct 24, 2020, 6:30 PM

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what abt this

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wJK2FT/gskill-trident-z-royal-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-4000-cl16-memory-f4-4000c16d-16gtrs

G.Skill Trident Z Royal 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-4000 CL16 Memory

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its the same ram but 16gb and cl16

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the one i was getting is that one but 32gb and cl19

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 6:30 PM

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do you need 4000mhz tho

noble oak Oct 24, 2020, 6:31 PM

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well,

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n o

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 6:31 PM

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if you want trident z go with this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dHjJ7P

G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

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if you want 3600 overclock this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qwDkcf

Crucial Ballistix RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

noble oak Oct 24, 2020, 6:31 PM

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alr ill think about it, thanks for explaining it to me

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 6:33 PM

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np

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if it's too late to cancel, just try tightening the timings on your trident z kit

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might be able to handle cl16, dunno how downbinned it is

noble oak Oct 24, 2020, 6:33 PM

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nah i have plenty of time and i can return it anyway

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 6:33 PM

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alrighty

tacit socket Oct 24, 2020, 8:02 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QTq9Jf

System Builder

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is this list good

deep scroll Oct 24, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Hello, my friend is wanting to get his own PC and build it himself. He said he's looking to do more mid to low-range gaming and is wondering what he should get. I'm not super good with PCs, so I'm asking here.

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This is what he has so far:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2jwYdm

System Builder

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Not the best, so advice is needed 🙂

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 8:47 PM

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is this list good
@tacit socket https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NTZP3Z I'd recommend waiting for RDNA2 GPUs, they're being announced in like 2 days

System Builder

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choose one

4 included fans:
Bitfenix Nova Mesh TG - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KgbCmG
3 included fans:
be quiet! 500DX - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3W6qqs
Corsair 220T Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wj4BD3
Corsair 275R Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ycbCmG
Corsair 4000X - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jNCFf7
Cougar MX330-G Air - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7fn8TW
Lancool II Mesh - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PmZzK8
P400A Digital - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FP3mP6
P500A DRGB - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GmhmP6
**TD500 Mesh **- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gfn8TW
2 included fans:
Cooler Master NR600 - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbqhP6
Corsair 4000D Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WBVG3C
Metallic Gear Neo Air - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pwzFf7
P400A - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3RJmP6/

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@deep scroll https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rvdw68

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deep scroll Oct 24, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Hm. He said his budget was about $500-$600

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$1060 a bit much

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 9:03 PM

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agh i mixed up the lists

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there fixed

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needs a gpu btw

deep scroll Oct 24, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Mkay

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No power supply? Or does one of the parts come with it?

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 9:13 PM

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i

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clearly need some sleep

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there was no psu in the original list so i didn't put one in

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also the psu i put in depends on the gpu that is going in the list

deep scroll Oct 24, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Alright then

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 9:16 PM

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also noteworthy that the 3600 doesn't have integrated graphics so that pc won't work without a gpu

deep scroll Oct 24, 2020, 9:19 PM

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I noticed. I don't see GPU listed for the part picker? As in what do I click to add the GPU? I'm sorry, I got my first PC last month I'm not too good with this stuff

static pecan Oct 24, 2020, 9:23 PM

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There should be section in the list that says "Video Card." If you click on that it'll take you to the selection of GPUs. Alternatively if you click "Browse Parts" at the top of the screen you can click "Video Cards" from that drop down menu and it'll take you to the same page

deep scroll Oct 24, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Mkay thanks

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Is this a good one?
MSI Radeon RX 570 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3JdFf7/msi-radeon-rx-570-8gb-armor-oc-video-card-rx-570-armor-8g-oc

MSI Radeon RX 570 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 9:36 PM

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nope

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that's the worst variant of that card too

deep scroll Oct 24, 2020, 9:37 PM

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alright

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 9:40 PM

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i'll make a list from scratch cause the budget for the entire pc is $600 correct?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gg7gwz

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deep scroll Oct 24, 2020, 9:57 PM

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yes

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it says its incompatible

crimson scroll Oct 24, 2020, 9:59 PM

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potential

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incompatibilities

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 10:00 PM

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2019 problem

crimson scroll Oct 24, 2020, 10:00 PM

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it's hard to find a b450 board now that doesn't support zen 2

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also

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just get the sn550 over the a60, it's 5 bucks more

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and you can get 3200cl16 for like 57 or something

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to make up for that cost

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 10:01 PM

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i picked 3600cl18 cause it's the same price as the 3200cl16 kit

crimson scroll Oct 24, 2020, 10:01 PM

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geil and oloy sell kits for 58 and 59

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too bad the vulcan jumped up a couple of bucks

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also can you even find the 3100 or 3300x in stock anywhere

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 10:02 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WggNQD

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3100 is in stock sometimes

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3300x never existed

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found the a80 for the same price as sn550

crimson scroll Oct 24, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Huh.

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The site didn't show me the Vulcan for that price

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This is very frustrating

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I put 2x8 10ns first word latency

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Should've shown up

devout wolf Oct 24, 2020, 10:08 PM

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oh using pcpp is pain now

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i put 2x8gb, 3200mhz and just sorted by lowest price

crimson scroll Oct 24, 2020, 10:11 PM

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it's also been showing no prices on my pc for some parts that have prices on my phone

waxen wagon Oct 25, 2020, 2:45 AM

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im planing a pc build with the thread ripper

calm forge Oct 25, 2020, 3:37 AM

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what for?

static pecan Oct 25, 2020, 5:10 AM

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He wants to rip some threads, obviously 😂

rustic onyx Oct 25, 2020, 6:00 AM

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The motherboard im going with is micro atx.
Should I go for micro-atx mini or mid tower

crimson scroll Oct 25, 2020, 6:04 AM

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depends on your gpu choice, cpu cooling requirements, how many drives you're gonna want, and how much physical space you have to put the case in

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there's no one right answer to which one you should go for, it depends on what you need

rustic onyx Oct 25, 2020, 6:14 AM

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what micro atx mini and mid would you recommend

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and also would type of psu would you recomend for micro atx cases
full semi or non modular

crimson scroll Oct 25, 2020, 6:21 AM

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semi if you want to save money, full is slightly easier to manage and usually looks nicer, non modular only if it's a really budget build imo

rustic onyx Oct 25, 2020, 6:23 AM

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ok thanks

crimson scroll Oct 25, 2020, 6:24 AM

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as for matx cases, i'd check out the nr400, carbide air 240, meshify mini c

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i don't know too much about matx but those are the ones that look like they have decent build quality and airflow

rustic onyx Oct 25, 2020, 6:50 AM

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how do i know if the case i pick will be able to fit everything

crimson scroll Oct 25, 2020, 6:55 AM

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you check its specifications

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and then check the rest of your parts list

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the manufacturer website will tell you the officially supported dimensions and support

rustic onyx Oct 25, 2020, 7:52 AM

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can you guys review my pcpartpicker setup
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y3QnHz

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crimson scroll Oct 25, 2020, 7:55 AM

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seems like an outdated processor, a meh motherboard, meh ssd when you can get an a80 or sn550 for the same price, and an outdated gpu as well

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are you doing just gaming or other stuff

rustic onyx Oct 25, 2020, 7:56 AM

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i plan to do gaming but also other stuff

crimson scroll Oct 25, 2020, 7:56 AM

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like what

rustic onyx Oct 25, 2020, 7:57 AM

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this is gonna be my computer for pretty much everything

crimson scroll Oct 25, 2020, 7:57 AM

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right

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I mean, are you doing any serious productivity tasks

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rendering, compiling, stuff like that

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not talking about using word and discord and firefox

rustic onyx Oct 25, 2020, 7:58 AM

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nah nothing too heavy

crimson scroll Oct 25, 2020, 7:58 AM

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okay

rustic onyx Oct 25, 2020, 7:58 AM

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and i dont plan to load any heavy games either

crimson scroll Oct 25, 2020, 7:58 AM

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i would look at the r3 3100/330x or i3-10100 instead then

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cheaper, better gaming performance, will handle normal office/browsing tasks just fine

rustic onyx Oct 25, 2020, 7:59 AM

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what about motherboard

crimson scroll Oct 25, 2020, 7:59 AM

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you can get an a320 or a520 mobo for the am4 cpus and a b460 for the intel cpu

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will be cheap as well

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put that money towards a better gpu

rustic onyx Oct 25, 2020, 8:00 AM

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what graphics card would you recomend

crimson scroll Oct 25, 2020, 8:00 AM

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well

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you said you're not doing any heavy games

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what resolution, refresh rate, and what games

rustic onyx Oct 25, 2020, 8:02 AM

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mainly minecraft
i dont know whats the refresh rates but i have 2 1920x1080 i believe 27 or 24 inch monitors

crimson scroll Oct 25, 2020, 8:03 AM

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size doesn't matter

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not for performance purposes at least

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anyways for around 180 you can get a rx580

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should let you bump up the shaders, and i'm guessing your monitors are both 60hz but the 580 will let you run higher refresh rates as well

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however

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there's an announcement for rx6000 gpus coming in the next 3 days

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I'm guessing those will be targeted initially at the high end market as well, but there might be something for the lower end

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and it may shift prices a little bit

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so i'd wait for that

rustic onyx Oct 25, 2020, 8:07 AM

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ok thanks

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anything else i should change with the setup

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also would you recommend the r3 3200G over r3 3100

rustic onyx Oct 25, 2020, 8:27 AM

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and is powercolor red devil rx 580 a good gpu

gilded frost Oct 25, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Just three days, that came fast. @rustic onyx Dont think there’s much of a difference besides integrated graphics and maybe a single or couple ghz more over clocking capabilities . Also, you can find the 580 being sold anywhere, there’s not much of a difference between most seller , Amazon has them listed at anywhere from 150 to 200 . Seeing as you’re not going to have a very colorful case, unless you choose to get some lighting or products with RGB, I don’t think the red and black would blend in or fit with the rest of your setup . Your call in the end

calm forge Oct 25, 2020, 2:29 PM

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time to get 1tb of ram

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:/

pulsar fossil Oct 25, 2020, 3:06 PM

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What do you mean "get"? You don't have 2TB of RAM now?

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Kappa

noble oak Oct 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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i just downloaded 10tb of ram 😎

static pecan Oct 25, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Noice

crimson scroll Oct 25, 2020, 4:33 PM

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considering the 3100 beats out the 3400g, only get the 3200g if you need integrated graphics for real budget builds and aren't getting a dedicated gpu

calm forge Oct 25, 2020, 5:01 PM

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What do you mean "get"? You don't have 2TB of RAM now?
@pulsar fossil yeah man I still need to get an epyc cpu so I can actually get 1tb of ram

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and then i can just get more from there

tacit socket Oct 26, 2020, 12:24 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QTq9Jf

System Builder

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is there anything i should change and btw i have around a 1000 dollar budget

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 12:25 AM

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yeah, wait a couple days for zen 3

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212 isn't worth getting for $35

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the kingston a400 uses the s11 controller which is garbage and has high failure rates

tacit socket Oct 26, 2020, 12:25 AM

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K thx

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 12:25 AM

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and yuck msi products

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1660s > 1660ti in price/perf

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look at the 5600xt around the $300 mark especially since you aren't getting rtx features with the 1660 series

tacit socket Oct 26, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Should i keep the amd cooler that comes with it

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 12:28 AM

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yeah unless you want a more significant upgrade

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also again, wait for zen 3

tacit socket Oct 26, 2020, 12:28 AM

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I might upgrade it along the way

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 12:28 AM

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one week

tacit socket Oct 26, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Ok

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

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also

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what are you doing with the pc

tacit socket Oct 26, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Mainly for gaming and school

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 12:47 AM

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probably would not pick the 3700x over the 10600k then

tacit socket Oct 26, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Why not?

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 12:49 AM

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both will do normal school tasks just fine

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10600k is better in gaming

tacit socket Oct 26, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Ok

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But i might stick with the 3700x cuz it comes with a cooler aspnd can overclock

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 12:54 AM

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lmao i found an xfx rx580 8g on offerup for 95

tacit socket Oct 26, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Lol

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 12:55 AM

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and the 10600k is like 20-30 dollars cheaper than the 3700x

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 1:25 AM

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yeah, the 3700x went up in price again

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very annoying

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 1:25 AM

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:/

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 1:27 AM

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also the 10600k can also overclock and you get more gains out of it proportionately, so i'm not sure what you meant by the 3700x can overclock

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the 10600k will draw more power but eh

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 5:03 AM

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98 is nothing, you can find them brand new on eBay for sub 60 bucks @calm forge

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 5:03 AM

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for a 580?

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a legit offer?

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Yeah I’ll see if I can find it again

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I was looking earlier and saw it

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 5:03 AM

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one mislisting by somebody who doesn't know what they're selling or just needs fast cash now doesn't really count

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but man, if you can find real rx580s for sub 60 on ebay i'll buy em all and flip them on r/hws for massive profit

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Yeah can’t seem to find the other one, probably bought out, but there’s a bunch on eBay from sellers with previous positive ratings for around the 70 bucks range

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8g cards, some are 4

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82 bucks, 79, 72 , all around the range though.

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45 bucks for a 4g card

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 5:08 AM

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uh

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on buy it now?

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📎 unknown.png

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on auction, sure, you can get cheaper ones

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one of them says for parts, not working, so we'll ignore that one

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one of them starts at $50 but has 25 bucks shipping, next is 86, then 96, then 104, etc

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Yeah I was going to say they nab you with the damn shipping

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 5:09 AM

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and some of these listings are complete bs

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rx580 6gb

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 5:09 AM

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😂

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 5:10 AM

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so...yeah, i don't think so

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Rx580 24gb

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Most of them are auctions, there might be a coupe bids on them in the end

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📎 s-l1600.png

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GeForce RTX 3090 FE 24GB GDDR6X Graphics Card

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""

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 5:11 AM

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this is why i don't use ebay

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even if they side with the buyer

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Yeah

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 5:12 AM

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storefronts are okay

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i bought a $3 pack of 50 velcro ties once because they gave me a coupon that made it 3 cents

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 5:12 AM

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There is some legitimate 3090’s being sold, but they’re almost all price in the high 3 thousands

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 5:12 AM

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so pretty safe

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but other than that, nah

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Usually just get those kind of accessories off Amazon

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 5:13 AM

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yeah

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not for 3 cents though

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Lol, not a chance

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MSi is bidding their 3090’s

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 5:13 AM

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yeah

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they've stopped

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and refunded the buyers

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Ran out of stock?

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 5:14 AM

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no

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they got caught, the main company was made aware

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and then they sent out their pr statement

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCVKdt-6Qz4

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

LIVE Archive: Recap of MSI Controversy News & "Scalping" Claims

This is filmed at 3AM local time and with a one-man crew, so we will only be quickly recapping the MSI "scalping" controversy that blew up overnight. We spent a few hours on the phone with people all over the industry and have some insights to share. We will not take all super...

▶ Play video

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in one of their later videos they have a followup from a customer who was refunded

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Is the MSI eBay account run by a different social media ‘accountant’

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 5:15 AM

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social media accountant?

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not sure what social media has to do with this

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Let me watch the video, very confused

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 5:16 AM

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it's a subsidiary company, the ebay listings are likely run by a single person

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but that has nothing to do with social media and pr statements

tacit socket Oct 26, 2020, 12:36 PM

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does anybody recomend a cooler for the 10600k

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and a motherboard for it too

sly grotto Oct 26, 2020, 12:44 PM

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📎 20201026_101812.png

cedar herald Oct 26, 2020, 12:49 PM

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hold up

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i cant see a gpu

sly grotto Oct 26, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Waiting for a 3070 :0

cedar herald Oct 26, 2020, 12:51 PM

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lul

sly grotto Oct 26, 2020, 12:51 PM

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yeah it looks so empty without a gpu haha 😂

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 1:47 PM

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lol

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 2:52 PM

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@sly grotto Does your processor have integrated graphics so you can atleast use it?

sly grotto Oct 26, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Yup

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I've got it all setup, and all my files onto new ssd and stuff

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just can't actually play the high games pepesad

devout wolf Oct 26, 2020, 3:02 PM

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does anybody recomend a cooler for the 10600k
@tacit socket are you going to be overclocking it?

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 3:02 PM

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feelsbadman

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atleast you can still play roblox

devout wolf Oct 26, 2020, 3:03 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n6jNnQ/

Asus PRIME Z490M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 3:03 PM

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he can get a noctua cooler

devout wolf Oct 26, 2020, 3:05 PM

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noctua is overrated

olive hearth Oct 26, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Is the RTX 2060 any good?

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 3:05 PM

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I mean

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they're on the lower 300s now but

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for that price

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you can get a 5600xt or a 5700xt

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5700xt is mid 300-400

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 3:07 PM

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noctua is very good but expensive, you're paying for the history of quality and customer support

olive hearth Oct 26, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Okay i will check those out

tacit socket Oct 26, 2020, 3:15 PM

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@crimson scroll i changed some stuff what do u think i could change still https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yncpGq

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runic girder Oct 26, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Hello

tacit socket Oct 26, 2020, 3:15 PM

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hey

runic girder Oct 26, 2020, 3:16 PM

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I need help building a pc

tacit socket Oct 26, 2020, 3:16 PM

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ask them im also new to building pc's

cedar herald Oct 26, 2020, 3:17 PM

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watch ltt first person build

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or watch any of joey delgado vids

runic girder Oct 26, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Ok thank you

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 3:23 PM

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uhh

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that's very vague

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what exactly do you need help with @runic girder

runic girder Oct 26, 2020, 3:24 PM

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I’m new to this so I need help to understand how it works

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 3:24 PM

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okay, then i would do as icewolf said and watch youtube videos on how to build

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if you need help on a specific component or parts list then it makes more sense for us to help you

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but something like just building in general and how stuff works is better for youtube

runic girder Oct 26, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Ok

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 3:26 PM

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@tacit socket asrock z490 boards are not great

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for $80 i would just get a dark rock pro 4 or noctua nh-d15

tacit socket Oct 26, 2020, 3:26 PM

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ok

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 3:26 PM

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that boot ssd is very small and i believe the inland professional switched its internals to QLC

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also again, wait for zen 3

tacit socket Oct 26, 2020, 3:27 PM

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ok

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 3:34 PM

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honestly im considering selling my 1660ti and just spending an extra 30 dollars for a 2060

astral belfry Oct 26, 2020, 3:47 PM

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So for my pc in terms of peripherals, I am planning on getting the apex 7 tkl blue switch, the sensei 310 wired mouse, and the qck heavy mousepad medium. Would this be a good set of peripherals?

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 3:49 PM

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seems fine, really depends on your personal preference though

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peripherals more than components in the pc are subjective

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there's performance such as tracking, mouse slam test, etc. for mice but most modern mice all hit pretty equal levels, so it's just about if you like the feel or not

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 3:51 PM

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my sister has a g900 rn

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and it feels pretty good

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so im probably gonna get it

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 3:51 PM

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i have a g900, the wireless is very convenient, but it does rattle

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some people have complained about double click as well

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also for the sensei 310, my first one started having scroll and click issues

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my second one is okay but it's only been in use for a couple of months

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 3:51 PM

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and a qck xl or xxl

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for keyboard probably an apex 7 with red switches

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or a ducky to save more space

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 3:52 PM

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i approve of 60/65% but it's not for everyone

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 3:52 PM

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yeah

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idk i might get a glorious 3xl

deep scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:05 PM

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I apologize for the mess, but this is about what I'm working with

cedar herald Oct 26, 2020, 4:05 PM

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#archive-battlestations

deep scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Yeah ik, I was told to post it here bec I can't send it in general

cedar herald Oct 26, 2020, 4:06 PM

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lol k

astral belfry Oct 26, 2020, 4:32 PM

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I don’t think I’d wanna get a 60% keyboard mainly because of the space between the keyboard and the mouse would be too short for my liking

sly grotto Oct 26, 2020, 4:33 PM

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I like full sized

astral belfry Oct 26, 2020, 4:33 PM

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I know I could separate them, but my desk isn’t that lengthy

sly grotto Oct 26, 2020, 4:33 PM

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simple and ez

astral belfry Oct 26, 2020, 4:34 PM

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I would like a full sized too, but I think that a tkl would be the perfect size and separation between the mouse and keyboard

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Also I don’t see a use for the number pad

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:39 PM

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uh

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why wouldn't you want space between your keyboard and mouse?

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less space = bumping

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:39 PM

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yeah

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:39 PM

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terrible when you're trying to clutch and bam you flick half an inch too short because your keyboard is too long

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:39 PM

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I don’t think I’d wanna get a 60% keyboard mainly because of the space between the keyboard and the mouse would be too short for my liking
@astral belfry having a full sized keyboard takes up more space

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meaning you'll have less space for your mouse

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I would like a full sized too, but I think that a tkl would be the perfect size and separation between the mouse and keyboard

astral belfry Oct 26, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Too be honest idk if I could afford a full size

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:41 PM

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full size isn't always more expensive

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it's mainstream

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:41 PM

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yeah

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the apex 7 tkl is cheaper than their full sized

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which makes sense

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because the full sized requires more time and material

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:41 PM

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eh

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if you've only ever made fullsize

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and now you make tkl

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tkl can be more expensive

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:42 PM

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eh i kinda guess it depends on the seller

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:42 PM

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the molds, stamps, etc. can run tens of thousands of dollars

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on the manufacturing side

astral belfry Oct 26, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Oh I meant to ask too

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:43 PM

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?

astral belfry Oct 26, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Is a wired mouse better than wireless? I’m asking because my friends are saying that wired mouses have less lag

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Like they have less input lag

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:44 PM

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wired mouses do have less lag

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:44 PM

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not true

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:44 PM

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well

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wireless mouses have more freedom

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ig

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:44 PM

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g900/g903 beat out wired mice in a test

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:44 PM

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whats the difference between the 903 and the 900

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:44 PM

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modern wireless mice targeted at gaming are indistinguishable from wired mice in terms of tracking, lag, etc.

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the difference is that the 903 uses a different sensor

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and has powerplay capabilities

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:45 PM

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gpro wireless is 130 on best buy for me rn

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:45 PM

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there's different versions of the g903, one has hero and one has the older 3366 variant i believe

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:45 PM

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o

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:45 PM

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however, if we're talking like office wireless mice

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then yeah, it's likely they have more latency than a comparable office wired mouse

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:46 PM

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idk i might get the g pro wireless

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or g900

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:46 PM

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shape is very different

astral belfry Oct 26, 2020, 4:47 PM

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I was gonna get the rival 310 wired, but I wasn’t too sure about the shape

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:47 PM

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yeah ik

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their designs are different

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I've used the g900 before

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and the design is fine withm e

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it fits comfortably on my hand

astral belfry Oct 26, 2020, 4:48 PM

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I’m not too sure about them since I have tiny hands

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:48 PM

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and i dont find any problems with the generic design of the g pro

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:48 PM

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i will say that the g900 is very slightly too big for me and i have fairly small hands

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i believe using rjn's method i'm around 20-21 cm

astral belfry Oct 26, 2020, 4:49 PM

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My iPhone 7 is like a centimeter smaller than my hands

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:50 PM

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i can use the g900 without any complications

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:50 PM

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@astral belfry best way is to physically test, but

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https://www.rocketjumpninja.com/

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great resource for mice

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:50 PM

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yeah i've already used the g900

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in person

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so i know it fits

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:51 PM

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i know

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:51 PM

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i just need to find out the dimensions of the gpro

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:51 PM

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you said that already

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:51 PM

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and if theyre similar to the g900

astral belfry Oct 26, 2020, 4:52 PM

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I’m just looking at peripherals from mainly steelseries for the free shipping and obviously the high qualify

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*quality

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Wow I can’t type

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 4:54 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J7nzYg

Buddy of mine wanted a frost white pc, haven't built in real life, or in pcpartpicker. Not many product's are in frost white so It's a bit difficult finding them, especially not severely overpriced

System Builder

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:55 PM

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are you sure you'd want to go witht he 3950x

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with zen 3

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Went 2 * 32gb stick for when/if he'd like to upgrade in the future since the motherboard has 4 dimm slots (nothing special I know) Filled the two M.2 Slot's with the 970

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:56 PM

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pretty sure the rmx series comes in white

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 4:56 PM

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the Zen 3's aren't on their list yet

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:56 PM

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https://www.corsair.com/us/en/rmx-white-series-power-supply

RMx White Series PSU | Award-Winning Performance, All-New Look

CORSAIR RMx series fully modular power supplies are built with the highest quality components to deliver 80 PLUS Gold efficient power to your PC, with virtually silent operation.

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:56 PM

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does the case have a psu shroud

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:56 PM

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it's on the back

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it's a recessed area, different from most pcs

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 4:56 PM

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because if it does you won't be able to see the psu so it doesn't really matter

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:56 PM

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it does matter

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 4:57 PM

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How many watts is it rated at?

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 4:57 PM

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you...pick?

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there's 750 and 850w options for the white ones

gilded frost Oct 26, 2020, 4:58 PM

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I'll just go with the 750 for now, doubt he's going to need 850. He'll be putting the top non ryzen threadripper cpu in his system, the 3080 won't have SLI. No way the ram would pull that much

arctic delta Oct 26, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Is anyone able to help me with just a tech question?

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I have a Ryzen 5 3600, which has 6 cores 12 threads, but when i enter task manager it shows this

📎 unknown.png

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what does that mean

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 5:52 PM

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it's machine code instructions

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6 cores 12 threads for cpu terminology means the computer spots more logical cpus, each physical core works as 2 cores ( more like 1.5 actually)

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processes is a memory structure that supports an application

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so if you have discord open, it'll require at least one process

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same with chrome, firefox, any game, etc.

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each process will use at least one thread (machine code instruction)

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usually more

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and handles are associations that threads make with various files

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 5:55 PM

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22 minutes uptime

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thats nothing

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ive had 13 days of uptime

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some have even more

devout wolf Oct 26, 2020, 5:56 PM

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the CPU 'Threads' that are 12 is named Logical Processors in task manager

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okay?

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 5:56 PM

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ok indeed

devout wolf Oct 26, 2020, 5:56 PM

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what was the point of that

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 5:56 PM

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idk

crimson scroll Oct 26, 2020, 5:56 PM

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people in this chat like to point out random things about their system that aren't necessarily related

calm forge Oct 26, 2020, 5:56 PM

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my brain is the size of a toddlers