#💻-building-a-pc | SteelSeries | Page 72

noble oak Oct 11, 2020, 12:06 PM

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It's also shown that lack of sleep can induce more mistakes etc. If you want your PC to be perfect to a degree, then sleep and make sure everything is right.

strong bolt Oct 11, 2020, 5:37 PM

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why are we talking about how people sleep we should be talking about computers

static pecan Oct 11, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Apparently my lack of sleep is upsetting people lol

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But hey I actually went to bed and woke up at reasonable hours last night and this morning so I think I'm doing better

strong bolt Oct 11, 2020, 5:39 PM

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most people sleep normally like me and probably everyone on this discord

wintry axle Oct 11, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Hello i was wondering if it would be good to change my gtx 1060 3gb to a better one

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And does it work if you have a prebuilt pc

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I have an i5 and 16gb ram

static pecan Oct 11, 2020, 7:08 PM

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If your current GPU isn't giving you the frames you want at the settings you want to play at then that's really the only reason to upgrade. And upgrading the GPU depends more on the PSU than anything else. Do you know the brand and wattage of the unit?

crimson scroll Oct 11, 2020, 7:09 PM

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eh it also depends on which i5 he has, it could be limiting him too

devout wolf Oct 11, 2020, 7:38 PM

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i5 is so vague

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it could either be an i5-650 or an i5-10600k

strong bolt Oct 12, 2020, 1:22 AM

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could you give me some quality pre-built pc options for under $450

crimson scroll Oct 12, 2020, 1:24 AM

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not really

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best you could do is a pre built optiplex and then slap in a low profile card yourself

solemn sail Oct 12, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I need a final opinion

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TCknmg

System Builder

crimson scroll Oct 12, 2020, 1:39 AM

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i would avoid msi products

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also I would pick a cheaper SSD and a more airflow focused case

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and I would not get a 2060 for $370

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I assume you're mostly using it for gaming?

solemn sail Oct 12, 2020, 1:43 AM

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work/gaming

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not gonna buy the gpu yet

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and im most likely going to switch the ssd

crimson scroll Oct 12, 2020, 1:47 AM

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if you like the look of that case, corsair makes the airflow focused version of it too

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and you can get something like a sn550 or sx8200pro, etc. for cheaper than the samsung 970 evo. technically not as good, but you won't notice the difference unless you're doing specific workloads

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also, i would recommend at least 1080p/144hz for the current gpu/cpu combo, and more preferably 1440p/144hz

gilded frost Oct 12, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Yeah I was going to say. Unless it’s out of budget, if it is it would probably be worth it to get a 1660 TI

crimson scroll Oct 12, 2020, 2:30 AM

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over...the 2060?

median rivet Oct 12, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Ahaha nah, wait for either 30 series to come back about or the new AMD cards price info (idk if they've mentioned price yet I dont pay attention to and news)

crimson scroll Oct 12, 2020, 2:33 AM

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the 2060 is better than the 1660ti

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how would the 1660ti be out of budget

lavish kraken Oct 12, 2020, 3:04 AM

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apex pro tkl or apex pro(normal)

devout wolf Oct 12, 2020, 5:01 AM

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do you prefer the numpad or extra space

gilded frost Oct 12, 2020, 8:32 AM

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I worded it carelessly the first time. You were talking about the 144 HZ monitor and how he should upgrade it, so I brought up that it might be out of his budget, and that he could downgrade the graphics card to a 60 TI and use that extra cash to upgrade to a 144hz monitor

devout wolf Oct 12, 2020, 11:13 AM

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1660ti costs the same as a 2060

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and isn't worth it at all over a 1660 super

tall cove Oct 12, 2020, 11:17 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-beyerdynamic-717525-earbud/p/N82E16826380026?Item=N82E16826380026&cm_sp=Dailydeal_SS-_-26-380-026-_-10122020

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honestly

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this is a steal

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A Beyerdynamic Studio Headset for around 50% in Newegg

devout wolf Oct 12, 2020, 11:36 AM

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OOS already GWaobloChildPepeCry

noble oak Oct 12, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Yo what is the date that I can buy an RTX 3070

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Pls ping me

crimson scroll Oct 12, 2020, 3:20 PM

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https://lmgtfy.app/?q=3070+launch+date

LMGTFY

For all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than search it for themselves.

static pecan Oct 12, 2020, 3:21 PM

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unicorn

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The 3070 launches on the 29th so....buy it any time from that point forward lmao

crimson scroll Oct 12, 2020, 3:23 PM

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let them find it on their own

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they ask a lot of googleable questions

calm forge Oct 12, 2020, 5:20 PM

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1660ti costs the same as a 2060
@devout wolf im selling my 1660ti and getting a 5700xt

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ol

static pecan Oct 12, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Nice

lavish kraken Oct 12, 2020, 6:02 PM

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u can speak an emoji

lavish kraken Oct 12, 2020, 6:20 PM

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speak amoji

cedar herald Oct 12, 2020, 6:21 PM

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👍

lavish kraken Oct 12, 2020, 6:21 PM

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speak emoji

cedar herald Oct 12, 2020, 6:21 PM

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u can

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it says the name of the emoji

lavish kraken Oct 12, 2020, 6:25 PM

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no

tall cove Oct 12, 2020, 6:28 PM

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📎 image0.jpg 📎 image1.jpg

pulsar fossil Oct 12, 2020, 6:28 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/thumbsup-cool-great-nice-notbad-gif-5220607

Tenor

tall cove Oct 12, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Do I like this angle? It will cut off some of my mouse pad but if the mouse pad can actually lay flat on my desk then I’m happy

cedar herald Oct 12, 2020, 7:05 PM

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damn u do a lot of DIY

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where da RGB tho

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thats all im here for lol

molten basalt Oct 12, 2020, 7:15 PM

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i have a decent amount of my mouse pad cut off

crimson scroll Oct 12, 2020, 7:19 PM

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tbh everybody has their pc on the right side where their mouse hand can bump into it

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case makers should all invert and move the window to the right side of the case

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that setup looks better suited for left handers

devout wolf Oct 12, 2020, 7:21 PM

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that is exactly what i was thinking

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my case is on the left side, but backwards so the window is facing me

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there is a wall to the left of my pc so i can just hide all my cables

crimson scroll Oct 12, 2020, 7:22 PM

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front io?

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or do you never turn on/off your pc

devout wolf Oct 12, 2020, 7:32 PM

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yeah i ditched front io and turn my PC on with WOL

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tbh front IO wouldn't be a problem... but there is a top shelf on my desk

wintry axle Oct 12, 2020, 8:05 PM

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How do you install windows to your pc

molten basalt Oct 12, 2020, 8:11 PM

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watch a video on how to do it

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it would be better then describing it here

crimson scroll Oct 12, 2020, 8:22 PM

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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10\

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walks you through it step by step

lavish kraken Oct 12, 2020, 11:50 PM

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@tall cove

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it is already out 2070 isnt out

tall cove Oct 12, 2020, 11:54 PM

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what

static pecan Oct 12, 2020, 11:55 PM

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🤔

crimson scroll Oct 12, 2020, 11:55 PM

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?

tall cove Oct 12, 2020, 11:55 PM

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why did you @ me

calm forge Oct 12, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Do I like this angle? It will cut off some of my mouse pad but if the mouse pad can actually lay flat on my desk then I’m happy
@tall cove no just ship it to me

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:(

tall cove Oct 13, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Funny jokes

crimson scroll Oct 13, 2020, 12:03 AM

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https://zowie.benq.com/en-us/mice.html

Professional Gaming Mice | ZOWIE US

With over 20 different shape, size, and coating options available, ZOWIE mice offer best-in-class comfort, no matter the user’s hand size or grip style.

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@noble oak scroll to the mouse fitting kit

dusky crag Oct 13, 2020, 12:14 AM

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is it better to get 4 x 16 gb of ram or 2 x 32 gb

crimson scroll Oct 13, 2020, 12:18 AM

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2x32 in general

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less stress on the imc

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BUT

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it depends on the topology of the board for overclocking

tall cove Oct 13, 2020, 12:45 AM

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@tall cove
@Hi.#0571 why did you tag me

gilded frost Oct 13, 2020, 1:06 AM

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4*16 is more efficient

tall cove Oct 13, 2020, 1:29 AM

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4*anything

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Aethstisics

static pecan Oct 13, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Big aesthetic energy

crimson scroll Oct 13, 2020, 1:35 AM

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explain how it's more efficient

static pecan Oct 13, 2020, 1:38 AM

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because ram go brrrr, obviously

crimson scroll Oct 13, 2020, 1:40 AM

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2x32 is more power efficient and easier on the IMC. depending on the workload, 4x16 can give you more parallel throughput, but again, depending on daisy chain or t-topology motherboards, your overclock can vary.

devout wolf Oct 13, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Only time 4x16 is more efficient is in a quad channel platform

gilded frost Oct 13, 2020, 8:31 AM

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Which is what a lot of newer products are switching to. Therefore in the long run, at least for now, it is better/more efficient

crimson scroll Oct 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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no, it's not

noble oak Oct 13, 2020, 2:55 PM

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is this a good laptop for the price? It costs 2129 USD

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all of the other laptops i saw with the same specs were all $2350+

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Bruh

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300hz

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You could buy laptop ram with more megahertz

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Instead of the 2933 MHz

static pecan Oct 13, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Intel limits ram speed so 2933 is the highest it'll go

tall cove Oct 13, 2020, 3:18 PM

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to be fair its a i7 10th gen

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^^ what alan said

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AMD is the one that thrives with higher speed ram

static pecan Oct 13, 2020, 3:19 PM

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All in all it looks like a solid option, but always look up independent reviews before buying an expensive product like that @noble oak

noble oak Oct 13, 2020, 3:19 PM

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ok ty!

young mauve Oct 13, 2020, 4:08 PM

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do u guys have advice for my pcpartpicker, i'm going for a sub 1k mini itx blacked out build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NVCnQD

System Builder

static pecan Oct 13, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Don't buy vengeance ram, I personally would avoid MSI products right now, and if you're wanting an ITX build then why do you have an ATX case with sub-optimal airflow in your list?

young mauve Oct 13, 2020, 4:11 PM

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oh true. the reason was because I swapped the h200 for the h500 because the pricing didnt show up

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and yeah msi thing makes sense

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but its the cheapest 2060

static pecan Oct 13, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Like I said, I personally wouldn't buy MSI regardless of price simply because I don't want to support a company doing shady things, but I can't really stop you otherwise lol

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But also there are much better RAM kits out there for roughly the same price compared to Vengeance

young mauve Oct 13, 2020, 4:12 PM

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ok

static pecan Oct 13, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Like G Skill for example. Their 16GB 3200mhz kit stays at about $60 all the time and they have much better binning and are actually able to hit their rated speeds consistently lol

young mauve Oct 13, 2020, 4:14 PM

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yeah i found a crucial ballistix 3600 one for around $70

static pecan Oct 13, 2020, 4:15 PM

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👌

young mauve Oct 13, 2020, 4:15 PM

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cool tt

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ty*

gilded frost Oct 13, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Actually Oloy sells their own 16 gb kit. CL 18 and 3600 , RGB gives 20% boost. About 65 bucks on Amazon

devout wolf Oct 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Which is what a lot of newer products are switching to. Therefore in the long run, at least for now, it is better/more efficient
@gilded frost never seen a consumer platform on quad channel

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only HEDT platforms have it

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3600cl18 is just 3200cl16 with imc stress

devout wolf Oct 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Intel limits ram speed so 2933 is the highest it'll go
@static pecan only on h and b series motherboards

static pecan Oct 13, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Context, my guy. We were specifically talking about an H series chip

crimson scroll Oct 13, 2020, 6:08 PM

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the H on the cpu is not the same as an H series motherboard

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having said that, the official spec for the 10750H is 2933 mhz

forest heart Oct 13, 2020, 7:35 PM

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would it be better to get the ryzen 7 2700x or the ryzen 7 3700x or is there literally no difference

young mauve Oct 13, 2020, 7:40 PM

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i think the 3700x is better, although the price is significant

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and the 2700x is zen+ which isnt as efficent or fast

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the ryzen 5 3600x is overall better although if you want the extra cores/threads probably pay the extra money for the ryzen 7 3700x

crimson scroll Oct 13, 2020, 7:44 PM

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nah, 3600>3600x for price/performance

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there was that brief moment in time where the 3600x was around 200 and the 3600 was 209 but other than that

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you can OC the 3600 to 3600x performance

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and i wouldn't say the 3600 is overall better than the 3700x, it really depends on what you're doing

prime thicket Oct 13, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Don't buy vengeance ram, I personally would avoid MSI products right now, and if you're wanting an ITX build then why do you have an ATX case with sub-optimal airflow in your list?
@static pecan What ram do you recommend? I'll be building with an AMD CPU so higher speeds are welcome ;)

crimson scroll Oct 13, 2020, 8:30 PM

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gskill, crucial, etc. have some nice kits

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on the cheap side, tforce vulcan, oloy

devout wolf Oct 13, 2020, 8:32 PM

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crucial ballistix is always at a really good price

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and it can overclock really good on amd

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well binned rev.e moment

spring osprey Oct 13, 2020, 8:35 PM

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blade 15 w/2070S or msi prebuilt w/2080

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portability and power are needed

devout wolf Oct 13, 2020, 9:07 PM

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https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Mid-Tower-ATX-Cases/iCUE-220T-RGB-Airflow-Tempered-Glass-Mid-Tower-Smart-Case/p/CC-9011173-WW

iCUE 220T RGB Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Smart Case — Black

The CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB Airflow is a compact mid-tower ATX smart case with a high airflow layout and three included SP120 RGB PRO fans for spectacular RGB lighting controlled out-of-the-box via CORSAIR iCUE software. Compatible with CORSAIR iCUE

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220T Airflow is $50

crimson scroll Oct 13, 2020, 9:07 PM

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@spring osprey sounds like you're talking about a laptop vs a tower?

spring osprey Oct 13, 2020, 9:08 PM

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yes

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BUT

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i need it to go places, school shit (i got an ipad for that now) you get it

crimson scroll Oct 13, 2020, 10:16 PM

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so...how is the prebuilt even in the running then

calm forge Oct 14, 2020, 5:17 PM

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boo!

knotty bane Oct 14, 2020, 5:19 PM

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happy scary

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!!

calm forge Oct 14, 2020, 5:27 PM

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yes

gilded frost Oct 14, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Lol @crimson scroll

crimson scroll Oct 14, 2020, 9:49 PM

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?

dim sable Oct 14, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Can I ask a question about non steel series peripherals?

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lol

gilded frost Oct 14, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Didn’t know you could build a pc only out of steel series parts to begin with

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@dim sable Shoot away

dim sable Oct 14, 2020, 10:46 PM

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XD

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It’s more about peripherals @gilded frost

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I need a new headset and not sure what to get, included mic is an important factor

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My main two are hyper cloud alpha s and logi g pro x. I bought and returned the arctis pro wireless, I realised I didn’t need to spend so much and I was quite disappointed too

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And to be honest wired seems to still dominate

gilded frost Oct 14, 2020, 10:49 PM

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It’s personal choice with wireless and wired. Wireless now has 2.4 ghz response so It’s instant essentially, but your mic quality will be better and “louder” if it’s wired.

dim sable Oct 14, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Arctis pro non wired is also an option, but it costs more and I’m not so sure how much I like the Arctis design haha

gilded frost Oct 14, 2020, 10:49 PM

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The Artic 5’s / 7’s are good price for headphones and are wired/non wired out of the box

dim sable Oct 14, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Yeah, wired is cheaper, and the mic quality blows wired out of the water

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I just don’t know how comfortable I found the pro wireless

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Being very heavy didn’t help

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But it wasn’t the most comfy

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And I know the mic isn’t the best mic too on the 5/7

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Oh wait no the 5 sounds pretty good

gilded frost Oct 14, 2020, 10:51 PM

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5 sounds good, it’s wired/wireless, RGB .

dim sable Oct 14, 2020, 10:51 PM

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I guess the g pro x, cloud alpha s, Arctis 5/pro are my main choices unless there’s something in the price range you recommend?

gilded frost Oct 14, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Good bang for your buck

dim sable Oct 14, 2020, 10:51 PM

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It’s wired only

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I thought

gilded frost Oct 14, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Is it?

dim sable Oct 14, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Yea

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I do really want wireless but I haven’t been too impressed

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Charging it is something else to worry about

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Too

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So the G pro X, cloud alpha s, Arctis 5/Pro seem to be top 4

crimson scroll Oct 15, 2020, 12:38 AM

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why do you want a headset specifically

lavish kraken Oct 15, 2020, 3:25 AM

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dude im in a server

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and peopel say this is KBPS

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and say im blind

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and this right here

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is a fake

crimson scroll Oct 15, 2020, 4:27 AM

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fast.com>speedtest ookla

devout wolf Oct 15, 2020, 5:13 AM

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reserved bandwidth go brrrr

gilded frost Oct 15, 2020, 5:31 AM

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You know you can modify ookla right? Lol, I could put 5000000 down 1 up

lean quarry Oct 15, 2020, 6:01 AM

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my mbps is bad my cpu is bad my gpu is bad and goes brrrrrrrr and i dont got any casefans

toxic raftBOT Oct 15, 2020, 8:52 AM

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Scqrs#0567 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

maiden ferry Oct 15, 2020, 8:52 AM

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lmao

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can i have some of that internet mine sucks

pulsar fossil Oct 15, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Work internet FTW

calm ore Oct 15, 2020, 10:51 AM

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how much you pay for this holy

pulsar fossil Oct 15, 2020, 10:52 AM

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Was trying to be funny :P

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We "only" have 1 Gbit here

sturdy comet Oct 15, 2020, 11:26 AM

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I guess the g pro x, cloud alpha s, Arctis 5/pro are my main choices unless there’s something in the price range you recommend?
@dim sable if you really want quality, i would highly suggest you to look ''not'' into gaming headsets, since they pretty much suck with only a few exceptions, look into the studio headphones category for good quality, as in comfort and sound quality

dim sable Oct 15, 2020, 11:38 AM

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@sturdy comet the actual sound quality doesn’t bother me too much and I’d like an included mic

lavish kraken Oct 15, 2020, 3:25 PM

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guys i got better discord its so cool

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lennart i beat you!

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/658188237575290922/668124318714167331/image0.gif

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wow

calm forge Oct 15, 2020, 5:21 PM

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hi

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anyone need help

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anyone require assistance

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im abandoning my last 10 minutes or world history for anyone in search of assistance

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mm perhaps civilization has ceased to exist

crimson scroll Oct 15, 2020, 5:35 PM

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that's not really how these channels work

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if somebody needs help they'll post here

calm forge Oct 15, 2020, 5:48 PM

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no shhh

old rapids Oct 15, 2020, 6:29 PM

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How do I get internet faster than 1.5 MBps

static pecan Oct 15, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Pay for it

old rapids Oct 15, 2020, 6:30 PM

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At yes, why didnt I think of that

static pecan Oct 15, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Big brain

old rapids Oct 15, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I already pay 70 a month on this slow internet

rustic onyx Oct 15, 2020, 7:14 PM

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are cpu coolers necessary

static pecan Oct 15, 2020, 7:14 PM

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If the CPU you buy doesn't come with a cooler in the box and you don't already have one that will work on the motherboard you're going to use, then yes

rustic onyx Oct 15, 2020, 7:15 PM

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im thinking of using ryzen 5 3600

static pecan Oct 15, 2020, 7:17 PM

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It comes with a cooler in the box

rustic onyx Oct 15, 2020, 7:24 PM

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what would you recommend as a good and relatively cheap mid tower case

gilded frost Oct 15, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Montech x1 white mesh case

3 static rgb case fans built in
Fairly good quality, good enough for mid range budgets
Mesh front
Good airflow all the way through
About 3 or maybe more ssd trays
Hard drive cage

$55

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Crazy @rustic onyx

cedar herald Oct 15, 2020, 7:33 PM

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are there any good gaming monitors under 130 dollars i dont mind 75 hz but if i can 144hz or 120hz
22 or 24 inches

rustic onyx Oct 15, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Thanks

gilded frost Oct 15, 2020, 7:36 PM

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@cedar herald 22 inches is a bit small for gaming personal ,24 and up is usually better. I can look for 24 and 27 if you’d like

cedar herald Oct 15, 2020, 7:37 PM

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@gilded frost mostly due to my desk space and pixel density

gilded frost Oct 15, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Ah, gotcha

cedar herald Oct 15, 2020, 7:38 PM

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24 would be fine but 27 has too low ppi for me

gilded frost Oct 15, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Strictly under 130?

cedar herald Oct 15, 2020, 7:38 PM

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yee

gilded frost Oct 15, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Hm, I’ll check

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Don’t think you’ll be able to get a 144 HZ, those are usually strictly priced at around $150

cedar herald Oct 15, 2020, 7:41 PM

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ya

gilded frost Oct 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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https://www.microcenter.com/product/629192/AOPEN_22MH1Q_Sbipx_215"_Full_HD_144Hz_HDMI_DP_FreeSync_LED_Gaming_Monitor?storeID=145

Micro Center

Acer AOPEN 22MH1Q Sbipx 21.5" Full HD 144Hz HDMI DP FreeSync LED Ga...

Get it now! Find over 30,000 products at your local Micro Center, including the AOPEN 22MH1Q Sbipx 21.5" Full HD 144Hz HDMI DP FreeSync LED Gaming Monitor

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129 bucks

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Thick bezels

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Though*

rustic onyx Oct 15, 2020, 7:54 PM

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can you guys give me advice on my pcpartpicker setup
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yfLkTJ

System Builder

cedar herald Oct 15, 2020, 7:55 PM

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@gilded frost is that monitor in the micro center online store coz i dont have a micro center in my state

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irdc abt bezels lol

arctic delta Oct 15, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Is a R7 2700X and a B550 motherboard not compatible or is PC Partpicker stupid

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@rustic onyx that list looks perfect to me except just double check that that RAM and SSD are both reliable

crimson scroll Oct 15, 2020, 8:11 PM

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meh

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b450 tomahawk overrated and it's msi

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the ssd is very reliable but at that price i'd get the sn550 500gb

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ram is fine

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yuck at spending 350 on a 2060

lean quarry Oct 15, 2020, 8:21 PM

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@rustic onyx maybe you can spend 200 dollars or so more so you have a better gpu who is more future game proof, when the rtx 3070 releases you can buy that one but you have to wait til you can buy em

rustic onyx Oct 15, 2020, 8:25 PM

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@ Reign wdym by reliable

static pecan Oct 15, 2020, 8:27 PM

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$350 for a 2060 is really just insulting lmao. An RX5600XT would be better price/performance, and more than adequate for a 1080p gaming rig

rustic onyx Oct 15, 2020, 8:35 PM

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i wanna get something thats gonna last for a while

calm forge Oct 15, 2020, 8:56 PM

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$350 for a 2060 is really just insulting lmao. An RX5600XT would be better price/performance, and more than adequate for a 1080p gaming rig
@static pecan yeah

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rn any 20 series card is not worth

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honestly the 2060 might dip down even lower than 350

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but that possibility is really llw

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low

rustic onyx Oct 15, 2020, 9:14 PM

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should i get msi radeon rx 5600 xt graphics card instead of evga geforce 2060

untold fern Oct 15, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Do you mean 2060?

rustic onyx Oct 15, 2020, 10:18 PM

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ye

rustic onyx Oct 15, 2020, 10:33 PM

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heres the new setup with geforce 2060 switched out
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hVjccT

System Builder

gilded frost Oct 15, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I’d go with an M.2 instead of an SSd. Also I still have the montech case laying around somewhere, I can try and show you how you’re going to have to wire things, it’s a pretty difficult wire management case @rustic onyx

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Oloy cells 16 gb kits DDR4 3600 Cl18 for about 62 bucks last time I checked

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Everything else personally is golden

rustic onyx Oct 15, 2020, 11:04 PM

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whats the difference between an M.2 and an SSD

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also in your opinion how good is the montech case @gilded frost

lavish kraken Oct 15, 2020, 11:09 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

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Glowy keyboard

gilded frost Oct 15, 2020, 11:27 PM

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@rustic onyx M.2 is directly implanted into the motherboard, faster by a hefty margin for about the same price. The case is really well built, tempered glass, it has some cable management spots, lots of space for a mid ranged pc

rustic onyx Oct 15, 2020, 11:29 PM

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i see

gilded frost Oct 15, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Enough space for upgrades, water cooling.

rustic onyx Oct 15, 2020, 11:31 PM

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will i need extra cooling?

gilded frost Oct 15, 2020, 11:31 PM

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No unless you’re really working your system

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Not*

rustic onyx Oct 15, 2020, 11:32 PM

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should i still have the 2 tb hdd

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or something else instead

gilded frost Oct 15, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Yeah that’s a great bang for your buck

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2.5 Tb storage total is great

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 1:25 AM

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i don't see the point in 3600cl18 over 3200cl16

gilded frost Oct 16, 2020, 1:26 AM

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For what like 5 bucks more

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 1:26 AM

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they are functionally the same

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there are some applications that prefer speed over cl latency

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and others that prefer the other way around

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but for general purpose use

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why are you spending more money for the same thing

gilded frost Oct 16, 2020, 2:42 AM

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It’s 5 bucks for a little bit more performance

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Not that huge of a cut

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 2:52 AM

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it's not more performance

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it's actually harder on the imc

gilded frost Oct 16, 2020, 3:07 AM

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He’d be fine

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 3:08 AM

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but why are you recommending something that costs more money and isn't better

gilded frost Oct 16, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Isn’t better? And it’s 5 bucks like I said before

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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yeah, it's not better

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sure, it's five bucks. but it's five bucks you don't need to spend

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if you have two equivalent things

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why are you buying the one that's five dollars more

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if gskill was a terrible company with bad ethics, sure

gilded frost Oct 16, 2020, 3:11 AM

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His processor is the 3rd gen , works perfectly fine with 3600

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 3:11 AM

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and it'll work perfectly fine with 3200

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3200cl16 and 3600cl18 have the same first word latency

gilded frost Oct 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Okay I stand corrected about the latency, but the frequency un over clocked is technically better you will also get more stable over clocking with a higher clocked base

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 3:13 AM

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that's also not true

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you can get bdie at 3200cl14 that will overclock better than 3600cl19

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yes, at the high end, when you're looking at 4400cl19 compared to 3200cl14, the 4400cl19 might be a better binned version of bdie

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but if you're talking about 3600cl18 vs 3200cl16 that's not really enough to say which will OC better, you need to look at the history of the specific skus

static pecan Oct 16, 2020, 3:15 AM

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The slight performance gain you might get in certain situations isn't worth $5 lmao

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 3:15 AM

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i wouldn't say that performance gain isn't worth money either, if you enjoy memory tinkering, it can be worth buying a better kit of memory just for enjoyment

static pecan Oct 16, 2020, 3:16 AM

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Unless you just have money burning a hole in your pocket that you're looking to blow on something dumb, which especially now most people aren't going to have

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 3:16 AM

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my issue is that there IS NO performance gain

dusky lark Oct 16, 2020, 6:25 AM

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When the next series of gpus come out in 2 years i will finally be able to get the 1050ti PogChamp

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 6:51 AM

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what region are you in

dusky lark Oct 16, 2020, 11:54 AM

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Nae

tall cove Oct 16, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Contemplating upgrading from a nonmodular 500W EVGA to 700W Semimodular Rosewill

tender turtle Oct 16, 2020, 2:17 PM

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if i build i might get a 3080 if theres a BIG sale

tall cove Oct 16, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Just get a 3070

tender turtle Oct 16, 2020, 2:35 PM

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yeah i'm probably gonna

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depends on the prices in like 3 years lol

tall cove Oct 16, 2020, 3:16 PM

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They would probably be obsolete in 3 years not gonna cap

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 3:32 PM

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rosewill

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havent heard that name in a while

shy yarrow Oct 16, 2020, 3:36 PM

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is this config good https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/user/AeroST7334/builds/#view=gyHBD3

Completed Builds

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 3:42 PM

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uh

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are you sure

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you only want one drive

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and 1tb of storage is really small now

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considering how large games are getting

shy yarrow Oct 16, 2020, 3:42 PM

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i already have an other one tb

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 3:42 PM

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oh

shy yarrow Oct 16, 2020, 3:42 PM

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overall?

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 3:42 PM

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its a good build

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but there are some things that you could downgrade

shy yarrow Oct 16, 2020, 3:43 PM

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like?

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 3:43 PM

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like the monitor

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you could possibly get a 1440p monitor at 144hz

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for less

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because if the difference between 240 and 144 is small

shy yarrow Oct 16, 2020, 3:44 PM

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in the 24inches range with g sync there arent many options

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 3:44 PM

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but its up to preference when it comes to monitors

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also your cable mod extensions are kinda pricey

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what brand are you getting them fro

shy yarrow Oct 16, 2020, 3:45 PM

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from cablemod worldwide aas it has the custom cables

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 3:45 PM

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oh

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nice

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yeah thats a pretty highend build

shy yarrow Oct 16, 2020, 3:45 PM

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its 100 with sipping

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thanks

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 3:45 PM

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rip

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2000 dollar pc as a first build

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damn

shy yarrow Oct 16, 2020, 3:46 PM

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i am saving a ton of money

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 3:46 PM

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lmao

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 3:51 PM

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meh

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why are we going with the 2700x?

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 3:51 PM

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extra clock speed B)

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but other than that

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its poibntless

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 3:51 PM

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i mean

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the 3600 exists for games

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the 10600k as well

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the 2700x is about to be two generations behind

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also i would avoid msi products

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and the h510i does not have good airflow

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also i would avoid corsair vengeance ram

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 PM

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just take the side panel off

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 3:52 PM

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not good bins

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if you need to take the side panel off that defeats the purpose of having the side panel at all

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you can get cases with good airflow that don't require you to remove the side panel and introduce a lot of dust

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 3:53 PM

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pikachu spare me

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that was a joke

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 3:53 PM

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also the kraken x63 is overpriced, you can get a ek aio or liquid freezer II which will be cheaper and better noise normalized thermals

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anyways, when are you buying

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 3:56 PM

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he said hes gonna save a ton of money

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so

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not very soon im guessing

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 4:02 PM

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he said "i am"

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 4:05 PM

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oops

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 4:06 PM

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yeah, he could be anywhere in the process

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 4:06 PM

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lets hope he sees this before he buys the parts

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 4:08 PM

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@calm forge you should be careful of calling things good builds off the bat like that

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 4:08 PM

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@calm forge you should be careful of calling things good builds off the bat like that
@crimson scroll i mean the fans are nice

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 4:08 PM

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didn't ask what they were using the build for

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didn't check the zen+ cpu

tender turtle Oct 16, 2020, 4:58 PM

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dont buy spectre

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thats all you need to know

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for monitor

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 4:59 PM

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bad qc?

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also as far as i can tell there's only one hp spectre monitor, a 32 inch model. Do you mean sceptre?

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 5:01 PM

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sceptre yeah

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lmao

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 5:02 PM

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so, what's wrong with them

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 5:02 PM

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idk ask target ball

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 5:02 PM

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that's who i'm asking

rustic onyx Oct 16, 2020, 5:58 PM

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how many sata ports does the msi b450 tomahawk have

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 6:18 PM

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idk

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MSI B450 Tomahawk Overview
For storage, it's equipped with six SATA III ports and a single M. 2 slot, which utilizes the PCIe 3.0 x4 interface for speeds of up to 32 Gb/s when used with an appropriate drive.

gilded frost Oct 16, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Dimm spots, and max ram capibilirt?

calm forge Oct 16, 2020, 8:37 PM

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??

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sir are you ok

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:15 PM

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he's asking for the amount of dimm slots and max ram capability

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aka capacity

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not that hard to understand

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english is like my 4th language

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:20 PM

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well, the reason i put a ? is because donsta seems like a fairly tech knowledgeable person, and should be able to find out that information on their own by finding the spec sheet

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:25 PM

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that's understandable

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:34 PM

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b450 tomahawk overrated and it's msi
@crimson scroll late response ik, but how is that board overrated is great price to performance, maybe not great performance overall but imo its the best budget board out there on B450

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:35 PM

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because you can get a b550m pro4 for cheaper

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it was good when the options were x570 or b450

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Damn, was looking to build a pc, but I would probs just be roasted by pikachu lol

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:36 PM

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i mean

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i'll slam your choices if i think they're bad

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but i'll also suggest stuff to make it better

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:37 PM

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What would you say if my budget was round about 1200 -1500 dollars, what would you recommend me

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:37 PM

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what are you looking to do with the system

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Mainly play games

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:38 PM

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well, zen3 is launching early november and that's close enough that i would say wait for third party benchmarks, see how it does

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:38 PM

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I was already planning to wait

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:38 PM

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and also for the 3070 to release and benchmarks, because that will be in budget

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:38 PM

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yep

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any powersupply you can reccommend me?

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:38 PM

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there's a lot of good ones, for a general guide i would look at the ltt psu tier list

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it's not perfect but it's a good start

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:39 PM

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ok

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yeah I often watch ltt, Jayz2cent and a few others

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they usually stay impartial on tech subjects

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:39 PM

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anyways, if we were going to make a list right now, i would say a 10600k, z490, 16gb ram, a 3070, and a 1440p 144hz monitor would be in the ballpark of your budget

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if you want hard numbers, i recommend gamersnexus or hardware unboxed

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:40 PM

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lmao I already watch em

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together with some dude called gamermeld

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:40 PM

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j2c and ltt are fine but they cater to a more general audience

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:40 PM

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true

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:40 PM

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j2c is good for watercooling though

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:40 PM

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yep, he has some good tutorials

rustic onyx Oct 16, 2020, 9:40 PM

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would you recomment b550m pro4 over b450 tomahawk for ryzen 5 3600

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:40 PM

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same with bitwit kyle, he does some nice builds but i don't trust his methodology as much

rustic onyx Oct 16, 2020, 9:40 PM

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recommend*

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:40 PM

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yes i would

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but i wouldn't build now unless you absolutely need the system

rustic onyx Oct 16, 2020, 9:41 PM

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why?

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:41 PM

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because zen 3 launches early november

rustic onyx Oct 16, 2020, 9:41 PM

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wont that be expensive?

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Also some prices are way higher than they should be

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:41 PM

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tbh I am kinda looking for an amd and nvidia system, cause intel has a tendency to making upgrades hard

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:41 PM

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wont that be expensive?
@rustic onyx yes expensive but worth the money

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:41 PM

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well, am4 is about to be on its last supported set of chips

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so you'll also be on a dead end if you get zen 3

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:42 PM

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yep

rustic onyx Oct 16, 2020, 9:42 PM

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im trying to stay at a near 1000 budget for my pc

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:42 PM

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and i wouldn't say it's worth the money yet reign

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you need to wait for benchmarks

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:42 PM

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yep

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:42 PM

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from third party sources

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:42 PM

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which is what I am doing as of now

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same with nvidia 3070

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and intel 11th gen

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Well some chips like the 5950X probably won't be but its predicted to have higher single core performance than 10900K which was its main selling point but u get the idea

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:43 PM

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I don't expect 11th gen to Intels holy grail of gaming, but I want to see what it can do

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:43 PM

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the thing is, the 3600 is back to its launch retail price which kind of sucks

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:43 PM

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bruh

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Yeah

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I got my 3600 earlier this summer

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:43 PM

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aint that like a few hundred dollars?

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:43 PM

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and microcenter (local only, yada yada) had 9700k for 199

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which...is amazing for gaming

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:43 PM

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aint that like a few hundred dollars?
@idle bridge what

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:43 PM

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wait nvm

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Ok

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:44 PM

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kinda bruh moment knowing that 5000 series is gonna be priced at like 400-600 dollars

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:44 PM

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300 for the 5600x, no?

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:44 PM

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I think so

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:45 PM

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@crimson scroll late response ik, but how is that board overrated is great price to performance, maybe not great performance overall but imo its the best budget board out there on B450
@arctic delta also there used to be a board that is pretty much the same thing for cheaper and has more pcie lanes

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x470gaming plus max

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:45 PM

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which is fine, if it's competing with the 10600k

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amd is no longer competing on price

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:45 PM

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I've been running the same laptop for like, 3-4 years, and it was already slow to begin with

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:45 PM

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x470gaming plus max
@devout wolf true but who uses X470 anymore

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:45 PM

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I can't even run 60 fps 1080p all the time 😦

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:45 PM

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...?

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that's like asking who uses b450

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:45 PM

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True ig, but imo B450 is the gold standard for budget now

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:46 PM

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both based and biased at the same time

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hmm

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:46 PM

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What

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:46 PM

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based: Someone agrees with a statement or action

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:46 PM

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that...wasn't rafee's point

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the point was that the x470 gaming plus max was cheaper than the b450 tomahawk max

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so who cares if you think b450 is the gold standard for budget

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if there's a board that's better and cheaper

rustic onyx Oct 16, 2020, 9:47 PM

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would the radeon rx 5700 xt be good for a near 1000 pc

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:47 PM

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lol, ye

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:47 PM

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yeah it'd be fine

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:48 PM

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so who cares if you think b450 is the gold standard for budget
@crimson scroll harsh but true, I was simply stating that I dont believe there is a market for X470 anymore even if there are better cheaper boards because the tomahawk max has gotten so popular

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:48 PM

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...

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To put that into a metaphor, I am reading "People should buy 2000 series nvidia cards, because rn there are basically no 3080's on the market"

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:49 PM

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...

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so

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:49 PM

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You are telling people to buy a worse product

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for a higher price

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:50 PM

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you have an x470 board with certain features, and a b450 board with certain features

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the x470 board beats out the b450 board, for cheaper

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:50 PM

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No, im not telling anyone to buy anything, im saying people already do

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:50 PM

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which would you pick

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this is why i was saying the b450 tomahawk max was overrated

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:50 PM

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True ig, but imo B450 is the gold standard for budget now
@arctic delta Couldn't this be read as a recommendation?

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Yes now that I re-read it

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I guess I was just saying people don't really look into X470 for high end machines anymore because of B550 and X570

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:51 PM

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i mean, yeah

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you shouldn't be looking at b450 for high end machines

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:51 PM

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exactly lol

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:52 PM

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the comparison was a specific x470 to a specific b450

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:52 PM

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only good b450 motherboard for 'high end' is the tuf-pro s

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:52 PM

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so why are we moving the goalposts now

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Because he needs to be rights and 'win' the argument

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:53 PM

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:/

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:53 PM

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lmao

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ok well lets get back on subject

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Ok

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:53 PM

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pc building

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What case would U guys recommend

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:53 PM

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i have a few

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:53 PM

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depends on budget

sly grotto Oct 16, 2020, 9:53 PM

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I'm getting the NZXT H510 Elite for my new build.

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:53 PM

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I know corsair and nzxt makes some good ones (And some bad ones)

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:53 PM

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4 included fans:
Bitfenix Nova Mesh TG - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KgbCmG
3 included fans:
be quiet! 500DX - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3W6qqs
Corsair 220T Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wj4BD3
Corsair 275R Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ycbCmG
Corsair 4000X - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jNCFf7
Cougar MX330-G Air - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7fn8TW
Lancool II Mesh - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PmZzK8
P400A Digital - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FP3mP6
P500A DRGB - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GmhmP6
**TD500 Mesh **- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gfn8TW
2 included fans:
Cooler Master NR600 - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbqhP6
Corsair 4000D Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WBVG3C
Metallic Gear Neo Air - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pwzFf7

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:54 PM

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i would avoid nzxt cases

sly grotto Oct 16, 2020, 9:54 PM

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07WBVH9WT/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:54 PM

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their design philosophy is anti airflow

sly grotto Oct 16, 2020, 9:54 PM

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I know what you mean but I just really want a nzxt

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:54 PM

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lmao gonna get one of them huge corsair cases for like 100 bucks xd

sly grotto Oct 16, 2020, 9:54 PM

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too good aesthetics lol

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:54 PM

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the NR600 is a mesh H510

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:54 PM

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meh

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get the nr600 then

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:54 PM

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the 1000d is huge

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:54 PM

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the 1000d isn't $100

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:55 PM

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i would avoid nzxt cases
@crimson scroll what do you think about the H1?

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:55 PM

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uh it aint?

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:55 PM

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h1 is aight

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:55 PM

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For airflow I meant

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Sorry

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:55 PM

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uh it aint?
@idle bridge that's way too damn cheap for a 1000d don't you think?

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:55 PM

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lmao wait its 500 usd

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:55 PM

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i think the h1 is an interesting concept, with the bundled aio and riser setup

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:55 PM

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bruh

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:55 PM

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h1 is not bad in terms of thermals

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because well

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:56 PM

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PSU as well I believe

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:56 PM

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yeah and psu

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:56 PM

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the gpu has its own perforated side

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and the cpu has an aio

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Is the psu 600w

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Or 650

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:56 PM

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what PSU would u guys rec for a 1500 usd setup?

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:56 PM

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650

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:56 PM

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what PSU would u guys rec for a 1500 usd setup?
@idle bridge depends

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:56 PM

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what PSU would u guys rec for a 1500 usd setup?
@idle bridge for the 5700xt?

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and which cpu

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:56 PM

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hmm

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intel and amd are about to both reach the approx same power ussage

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:57 PM

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...what

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:57 PM

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tdp =/= power draw

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:57 PM

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did you look at the zen 3 announcement?

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:57 PM

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just putting this out there

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:57 PM

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with the new amd cpus coming out,

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ik rafee

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tdp is a range of power

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:58 PM

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supposedly the new amd cpus keep the same draw from the wall as the zen 2 chips

sly grotto Oct 16, 2020, 9:58 PM

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team blue ftw

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:58 PM

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nope

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:58 PM

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this is according to a statement from amd to gamersnexus

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so....

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:58 PM

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tdp is a thermal unit

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a flawed one at that

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:58 PM

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uh ok

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:58 PM

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team blue ftw
@sly grotto ew, (jk)

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 9:58 PM

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it varies brand to brand

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:58 PM

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not sure where you're getting amd and intel power draw becoming equivalent from

idle bridge Oct 16, 2020, 9:58 PM

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I might just be dumb

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Same

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 9:59 PM

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i think people don't do enough research

sly grotto Oct 16, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Getting a NZXT kraken to cool my i9 👌

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Z73 all the way 😂

sly grotto Oct 16, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Yup 😂

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Can't wait to melt it 🙊

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Cant WAIT

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But fr tho I wish krakens had better performance

sly grotto Oct 16, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Same

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but I guess I gotta use what's being offered lol

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 10:01 PM

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being offered?

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Cause I want to get a x63 but like im scared it'll be a bad investment

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 10:01 PM

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oh it sure is

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ek aio and freezer ii ftw

sly grotto Oct 16, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Well that's the best NZXT water cooler so yeah there are no better ones from them

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 10:01 PM

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what exactly do you mean by being offered

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because there are definitely better coolers out there

sly grotto Oct 16, 2020, 10:01 PM

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I might just build my pc in the freezer how does that sound?

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 10:01 PM

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ek aio and freezer ii ftw
@devout wolf oh ik freezer great but its just not it for aesthetics

sly grotto Oct 16, 2020, 10:01 PM

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2000iq pro gamer moves

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 10:01 PM

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careful of condensation

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@devout wolf oh ik freezer great but its just not it for aesthetics
@arctic delta ek aio then

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no point arguing

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Can we talk about how Carter pcs on tiktok is building a PC in a mini fridge

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 10:02 PM

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supposedly gamersnexus has their galahad review in the works

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 10:02 PM

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@arctic delta ek aio then
@devout wolf I dont like how the EK looks either :(

crimson scroll Oct 16, 2020, 10:02 PM

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hopefully that competes too since some people don't like the ek aio aesthetic

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 10:03 PM

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i like the vardars

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Also I haven't seen the EK one in person so I can't truly decide if I like it or not

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 10:03 PM

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the pump isn't for me, although i could just mod it

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Ye

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 10:03 PM

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like how the new keksair capellix block has the black cover for the pump

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 10:04 PM

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I haven't seen that yet

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Gonna have to check it out

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Ohhh that looks fine af imo

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 10:05 PM

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meh same deal as krakens

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form over function

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Ye

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I really want to custom loop my next build because of all the form over function AIOs but I dont have any experience in hardline tubing and that stuff and I dont like soft tubing unless its matte black

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 10:10 PM

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good for me that i like massive heatsinks

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i have to spend less on cooling that fits my aesthetic

arctic delta Oct 16, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I need to research this now

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What kind of temps can you get out of those

devout wolf Oct 16, 2020, 10:15 PM

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some high end coolers can match 240mm AIOs i guess

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haven't looked into them very much... I just want a Macho RT

rustic onyx Oct 17, 2020, 7:41 PM

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whats a good graphics card around the 300 - 350 price range

hybrid flower Oct 17, 2020, 7:41 PM

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RTX 2060

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@rustic onyx

cedar herald Oct 17, 2020, 7:42 PM

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dont buy yet

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coz 6000 series from amd

hybrid flower Oct 17, 2020, 7:43 PM

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I don't like AMD GPU simply because of support

rustic onyx Oct 17, 2020, 7:55 PM

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what about the radeon rx 5700

static pecan Oct 17, 2020, 8:00 PM

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5700 is a solid choice, although right now it looks like the only cards that are showing prices on partpicker are from MSI, with the only one within your $300-$350 budget being a pretty crappy card when it comes to temps. If you can find one from a different brand like XFX or Sapphire then go for it

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That being said, prices will fluctuate even more at the end of the month when the new RX6000 cards get revealed on the 28th so you might be able to find a good deal on a 5700 by waiting

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Also, saying you don't like AMD GPUs because of support isn't a clear argument for why you don't like them lmao. Yes, the RX5000 series had driver problems at launch, the vast majority of which have been solved by now. Also, the RX580 has aged so much better thanks to AMDs software support than the GTX1060 has, with the RX580 still being a very capable 1080p card even today while the 1060 is pretty much dead because of Nvidia's lack of support @hybrid flower

hybrid flower Oct 17, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Also, saying you don't like AMD GPUs because of support isn't a clear argument for why you don't like them lmao. Yes, the RX5000 series had driver problems at launch, the vast majority of which have been solved by now. Also, the RX580 has aged so much better thanks to AMDs software support than the GTX1060 has, with the RX580 still being a very capable 1080p card even today while the 1060 is pretty much dead because of Nvidia's lack of support @hybrid flower
@static pecan I play simulators, like X-Plane 11 where the main GPU manufacturer of choice is Nvidia, you get flickers in plugins with AMD

static pecan Oct 17, 2020, 8:07 PM

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In that specific use case it's more than likely the developers focusing on Nvidia support rather than AMD, just like how Adobe still refuses to optimize their software for AMD in favor of Intel chips.

hybrid flower Oct 17, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Yeah

rustic onyx Oct 17, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Is there a big difference in 5700 and 5700 xt

static pecan Oct 17, 2020, 8:09 PM

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The 5700XT has higher base and boost clocks as well as faster memory speeds, but for casual gaming, especially at 1080p, there's no need to spend the extra coin for the XT model

devout wolf Oct 17, 2020, 8:19 PM

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especially because you can just flash the xt bios on the 5700

static pecan Oct 17, 2020, 8:19 PM

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That too lol

rustic onyx Oct 17, 2020, 8:29 PM

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?

unborn kiln Oct 17, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Basically you can make the pc think it is a 5700 xt
That way it gets a slight performance boost

rustic onyx Oct 17, 2020, 11:07 PM

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5700 is a solid choice, although right now it looks like the only cards that are showing prices on partpicker are from MSI, with the only one within your $300-$350 budget being a pretty crappy card when it comes to temps.
@static pecan
Just for clarification but which card exactly are you talking about

static pecan Oct 17, 2020, 11:10 PM

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When I looked on pcpartpicker earlier for 5700s the ones that were showing up with prices were over $500. The only one below $350 that I found was from MSI that has really bad cooling on the memory making the temperatures skyrocket

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Starting in November the prices for 5700 cards will probably go down again because of the RX6000 series announcement so you'll probably be able to find a good 5700 on sale then

rustic onyx Oct 17, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Ok

elder marsh Oct 17, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Can anyone give me a list of good parts to buy? My budget is 1k but I can go a little more up if need to...

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This will be my first pc and I’m using it for gaming/streaming

crimson scroll Oct 17, 2020, 11:59 PM

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i'd wait for zen3 launch

noble oak Oct 18, 2020, 4:39 AM

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I know this is a pc building channel, but what is a good headset that costs ~50 usd?

static pecan Oct 18, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Arctis 1 @noble oak

molten basalt Oct 18, 2020, 5:00 AM

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arctis 1 wired

devout wolf Oct 18, 2020, 5:40 AM

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hyperx stinger?

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 11:36 AM

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koss portapro/x @noble oak

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or Creative Aurvana Live! (cal)

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 11:48 AM

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Artic 1s better in all aspects including style 😂

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 11:49 AM

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not really, but anyways

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gaming headsets are a joke in the first place

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i love steelseries mice, but keyboards and headsets are just bad, overpriced and there are plenty of other options out there for the price

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 11:50 AM

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In some aspects

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 11:50 AM

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there are only a few ''gaming headsets'' that are actual good

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which doesnt belong under the arctis series

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 11:51 AM

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Not exactly, my point is that you can get a pair of $5 ear buds wired that’ll have similar quality

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 11:51 AM

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for that budget, yeah

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 11:52 AM

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The gaming headphones are built of the wireless feature, and the microphone

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I cant say I agree with you on the keyboards, except the price points

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 11:52 AM

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like i mean, there is no sound different between all the arctis tho

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all using the same drivers etc etc

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The gaming headphones are built of the wireless feature, and the microphone
@gilded frost except wireless makes it bad, and the mic isnt good either

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 11:53 AM

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Yeah I understand

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But since they’ve updated the frequency’s to 2.4ghz, thats not a problem

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 11:53 AM

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like i mean, for 200$ you can get studio headphones, an interface and a good xlr mic setup Xd

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a arctis serie aint gonna win from that

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But since they’ve updated the frequency’s to 2.4ghz, thats not a problem
@gilded frost mweh not really, all such low ohm's nothing really you can do with it if you need to listen to it critical

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 11:54 AM

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So plug it in wired

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 11:55 AM

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wires any day over wireless, quality overall is beter, some headphones have exceptions that are actual good on wireless coneections

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 11:55 AM

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Much like steel series

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 11:55 AM

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nah not really

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 11:55 AM

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Already mentioned the frequencies

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Do you own a steel series headset?

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 11:56 AM

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no, im lucky i dont, my friend does. i have listend to it, and its not good enough for its price

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and im not even NEAR to an audiophile or smth, its just such an difference

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 11:57 AM

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Its not always the mics problem with bad quality

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Old, slow ports

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Old motherboard

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 11:58 AM

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here we go already motherboard connections Xd

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Much like steel series
@gilded frost like AKG 361 BT would be by far better

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 11:59 AM

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Well I don’t think you’re giving a completely un bias opinion, you seem motivated to prefer other head sets before steel series to begin with

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 11:59 AM

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nah not really

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im not basing on brands

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its just, they are bad, cant deny it

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like this is an example for how headphones are valued

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WE1ddEKeg9OpD5cxr0vndr-0ZTy7EMk8smAHXuEggic/edit#gid=489055694

Google Docs

Cicero's Headphone Buying Guide

Welcome

Welcome to the Headphone Guide
(This is just the intro, make sure to use the tabs on the bottom/top of your screen to go to the next page)
The intention of this guide is to provide a reference for beginners looking to get into headphones. I've tried to include headpho...

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its also like, for a low budget you wont get anything great tbh

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 12:01 PM

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Clearly arent bad if they have the reviews and rewards they have now

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 12:01 PM

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reviews by who? users? Xd

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dont forget reviewers are mostly a joke

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rewards by just ''gaming brands''

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not a reward by actual audio people that have knowledge

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 12:01 PM

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Can speak to a lot of members here, they’ll say the same

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 12:02 PM

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there is not a single argument why you should take gaming headsets over actual good headphones tho

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they arent better, they come at the same price

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there are just better options

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 12:03 PM

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Microphone, wireless option

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 12:03 PM

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wireless & good dont go well with eachother

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 12:03 PM

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Hell RGB if you really want

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Comfortability

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 12:03 PM

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also wireless options on other headphones aswell that are beter

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 12:03 PM

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Compatibility

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Thats a big one^

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 12:04 PM

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compatibilty for what?

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 12:04 PM

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Wireless

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Headphones

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 12:04 PM

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yeah, sooo the better wireless headphone is still on top

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Wireless range

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Outside noise cancellation

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 12:06 PM

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audio quality goes brrrrr

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Quality is much better then other headphones

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Size. These headphones will fit on a child to a grown adult

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 12:07 PM

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same goes for any other headphones lol

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you arent gonna proof that a arctis 7 is better as a k361 bt

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 12:07 PM

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Never heard of the opposing one

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Number #92928482192838290029483 Marketing 😏

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 12:08 PM

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marketing means nothing tho

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if you do research

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you know there are better options

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if you actual go to an audio discord, you get plenty of information which headphones would suit you the best

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and believe me or not, if you are looking for headphones for gaming, they arent going to tell you get a ''arctis'' or any gaming brand headset...

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 12:09 PM

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Hyper x dominates the microphone gaming race

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 12:09 PM

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true 🙂

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 12:09 PM

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Not microphone on head phone, just microphone

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 12:10 PM

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The few exceptions come in the form of the HyperX Clouds, Cooler Master MH751, and Sennheiser’s open back headsets.

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these are the only gaming headsets you ''should'' look for if you really want one

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 12:10 PM

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Any of the artics will out preform those when wired most likely

sturdy comet Oct 18, 2020, 12:10 PM

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the price is a joke... so it makes them worthless

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and the audio isnt better from the 1 to 9 series

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nothing gets upgrades in sound, just the other things

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wireless, looks, anything else besides the sound

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and the price goes up... ;/

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like i mean dont get me wrong for ''hating'' or smth, but its just a general fact that gaming headsets suck, not just steelseries

gilded frost Oct 18, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Might want to double check the sound part of your argument

lament pawn Oct 18, 2020, 1:34 PM

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I own the MH751 though

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With a loose screw on the right ear vvBlank

rustic onyx Oct 18, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Im looking at motherboards and one has PCIe 4.0 Ready and the other has PCIe 4.0
Whats the difference

crimson scroll Oct 18, 2020, 5:13 PM

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no difference, just marketing probably

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which two motherboards

rustic onyx Oct 18, 2020, 5:20 PM

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GIGABYTE B550 AORUS PRO AC AM4 AMD B550 ATX Motherboard and
GIGABYTE B550 AORUS ELITE AM4 AMD B550 ATX Motherboard

noble oak Oct 18, 2020, 5:23 PM

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can someone plz buy me a tub of thermal paste so i can be a prebuilt

lament pawn Oct 18, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Both supports PCIe 4, they just named it like that for marketing

rustic onyx Oct 18, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Ok thanks

noble oak Oct 18, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Does anyone know where I can get 128gb of 1600mzh cl18 Ram?

crimson scroll Oct 18, 2020, 6:13 PM

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1600cl18 is...interesting. that's a really bad bin for ddr4

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but amazon, newegg, the usual suspects for the us

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for other places it depends

rustic onyx Oct 18, 2020, 7:44 PM

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which motherboard do you guys think is better
gigabyte b550 aorus pro ac or
msi mpg b550 gaming edge wifi

devout wolf Oct 18, 2020, 8:14 PM

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tomahawk and gaming edge are pretty identical except for the aesthetic

crimson scroll Oct 18, 2020, 9:15 PM

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yuck, msi

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anyways the mpg has technically better vrms i believe

devout wolf Oct 18, 2020, 9:18 PM

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they're identical iirc

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5+2 phase isl99360

crimson scroll Oct 18, 2020, 9:19 PM

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same as the aorus?

devout wolf Oct 18, 2020, 9:19 PM

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oh no tomahawk vs gaming edge

crimson scroll Oct 18, 2020, 9:19 PM

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yeah i meant the aorus is one tier lower

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will it matter? probably not

devout wolf Oct 18, 2020, 9:19 PM

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yeah it's very slightly worse

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one extra phase but sic651c drmos instead

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tomahawk msrp is $10 lower than aorus pro, but actual prices vary

vivid carbon Oct 18, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Thought of a build, anything being bottlenecked?

Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Royal 16GB
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550M Mortar
Storage: Corsair Force MP600 1TB
Case: Thermaltake View 71
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x

crimson scroll Oct 18, 2020, 9:57 PM

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that cpu will probably bottleneck the 3080, but it depends on res/refresh rate

static pecan Oct 18, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Why would you go Zen 2 with a 3080?

crimson scroll Oct 18, 2020, 9:57 PM

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and honestly i would wait for the zen 3 series

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if you're more content creation/productivity than gaming, it can make sense to go zen 2 over intel

vivid carbon Oct 18, 2020, 9:59 PM

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@crimson scroll 1080p, 144hz if you're wondering.

crimson scroll Oct 18, 2020, 9:59 PM

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a 3080 seems like overkill for that

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are you doing anything other than gaming

static pecan Oct 18, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Bruh lmao if you're going 3080 at least go 1440p 144hz

vivid carbon Oct 18, 2020, 10:00 PM

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@crimson scroll I do video editing, but that's about it apart from gaming.

crimson scroll Oct 18, 2020, 10:00 PM

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anything big?

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or mostly small projects and not a ton of them

vivid carbon Oct 18, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Sometimes I'll do a longer video/render a video in 4K/both.

crimson scroll Oct 18, 2020, 10:01 PM

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hmm, okay

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it really depends on if you want more of a focus on gaming or the video editing then, for the 10600k vs 3700x, but like i said earlier i would just wait for zen 3

oblique nova Oct 18, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Is the 3080 any good

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i have seen some yeses and noes

crimson scroll Oct 18, 2020, 11:34 PM

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it's fine

oblique nova Oct 18, 2020, 11:34 PM

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k

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thx

crimson scroll Oct 18, 2020, 11:34 PM

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it's a good upgrade if your system no longer performs the way you want and it's in your budget

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it's not earth shatteringly good

oblique nova Oct 18, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Do you know what frames it could get on medium settings games

crimson scroll Oct 18, 2020, 11:36 PM

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depends on resolution

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also medium settings is an odd benchmark to use on a 3080

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most people will test high/ultra

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otherwise why buy a 3080

oblique nova Oct 18, 2020, 11:37 PM

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well high on 1080

crimson scroll Oct 18, 2020, 11:39 PM

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depends on the game

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTeXh9x0sUc

YouTube

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oblique nova Oct 18, 2020, 11:51 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tT8wVc

System Builder

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Soo is thisgood

crimson scroll Oct 18, 2020, 11:54 PM

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eh

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why 3800x

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also, the case you picked has bad airflow

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and the motherboard is overpriced imo

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and if you're pairing all this with a 3080 i'd wait until zen 3 comes out

reef fog Oct 19, 2020, 2:08 AM

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I really want a pc but, don't know shit about parts. Can someone help?

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 2:19 AM

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what's your budget, what are you doing with it

deft abyss Oct 19, 2020, 3:19 AM

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I really want a pc but, don't know shit about parts. Can someone help?
@reef fog i can

reef fog Oct 19, 2020, 3:23 AM

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@deft abyss thanks how we gonna do this? In dms or something

deft abyss Oct 19, 2020, 3:23 AM

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HERE

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sry caps

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was trolling a server so i had caps on

reef fog Oct 19, 2020, 3:24 AM

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All I really need help with is just knowing part and which one you guys recommend

deft abyss Oct 19, 2020, 3:25 AM

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hm

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ok

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go on

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btw tag me whenever you are speaking to me coz i'm trolling discord server so much

reef fog Oct 19, 2020, 3:25 AM

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@deft abyss ok

deft abyss Oct 19, 2020, 3:25 AM

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yes

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 3:26 AM

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All I really need help with is just knowing part and which one you guys recommend
@reef fog What's your budget and what are you going to be doing with the PC? Mostly gaming or content creation like video editing and streaming as well?

reef fog Oct 19, 2020, 3:27 AM

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@static pecan I want a gaming one but I'm 13 so idk my budget

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@static pecan all I want to know is about parts or learn about them

deft abyss Oct 19, 2020, 3:31 AM

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@static pecan all I want to know is about parts or learn about them
@reef fog ok so what's ur question

reef fog Oct 19, 2020, 3:33 AM

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@deft abyss I want to know the basics about computers like know their parts and what they run on. But all I really want to know is about computer parts just put the computer part in a list to be easier

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 3:35 AM

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That's more of a Google/YouTube thing if you're just trying to learn about PCs in general. GamersNexus, JayzTwoCents, BitWitKyle, TomsHardware, and LinusTechTips are great resources through both their websites and YouTube channels to learn about different PC components and how they work @reef fog

reef fog Oct 19, 2020, 3:35 AM

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@static pecan Thanks

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 3:37 AM

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I learned everything about building PCs from watching LTT and JayzTwoCents videos for over a year before I actually bought parts lol

deft abyss Oct 19, 2020, 3:39 AM

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@reef fog me too but don't watch bs channels

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 3:40 AM

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reading is hard i guess

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literally posted the same thing and got ignored

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 3:41 AM

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FeelsBadMan

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 3:41 AM

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anyways, i agree with alanhm, there's a lot of good video resources on how to build a pc. as for what parts are good, that's a little more nuanced because it depends on what you're doing, and on the price at the moment

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 5:05 AM

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corsair's new 4000D airflow looks good, at $80 too

gilded frost Oct 19, 2020, 5:50 AM

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@crimson scroll have you checked out the montech x1 white mesh case?

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 5:54 AM

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yeah

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you like it a lot

gilded frost Oct 19, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Used it for my first build, so it’s usually the first thing I recommend to mid budget PCs

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 5:55 AM

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noncontrollable fans, giant branding, and not my aesthetic in general

gilded frost Oct 19, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Well bang for your buck at $50

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Lian Li sells some nice cases, just don’t have the best air flow

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 6:06 AM

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215 is very good

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so is the lancool ii mesh

deft abyss Oct 19, 2020, 8:36 AM

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rip

devout wolf Oct 19, 2020, 9:09 AM

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oh hell yeah https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/jdva2n/fyi_the_fe_has_a_touch_of_rgb_along_the_x_of_the/

r/nvidia - FYI the FE has a touch of RGB along the X of the card (1...

821 votes and 52 comments so far on Reddit

elder marsh Oct 19, 2020, 10:43 AM

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Seriously need help

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W9JGfP

System Builder

gilded frost Oct 19, 2020, 11:17 AM

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@elder marsh with what? Everything besides the over priced ram seems fine

elder marsh Oct 19, 2020, 11:32 AM

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I need help with buying parts

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what would you recommend instead then?

gilded frost Oct 19, 2020, 11:33 AM

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You don’t want RGB right?

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Do you have a specific budget?

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** https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232882 . $62

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They are both basically identical

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 2:57 PM

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the gskill you linked is 3600cl18, not 3600cl16 like he had in his original list

devout wolf Oct 19, 2020, 4:52 PM

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They are both basically identical
@gilded frost except for the part where they have completely different mem chips...

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 4:52 PM

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i smell ram

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i got my crucial ballistix from micro center for 55 bucks

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3200mhz

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cl16

cedar herald Oct 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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damn

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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@crimson scroll https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7LjCy4

System Builder

cedar herald Oct 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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rip no micro center in florida

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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rip

cedar herald Oct 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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😭

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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absolutely terrible, throw out the whole thing and start over alan

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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8x2

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so 16 gigs for 55

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Fs in chat bois

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I have failed

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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tbh i can't judge it too much, the two main parts aren't even out

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Yeah

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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the case seems like more of a budget choice than the rest of the build though

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 4:58 PM

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i see you are a fan of be quite

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man i cant spell

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im not even gonna blame it on the keeb

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Ah yes, be quite

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 4:58 PM

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also, pcie 4.0 ssd for your work/video editing i assume

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Yep

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 4:58 PM

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splurge on faster ram?

narrow parcel Oct 19, 2020, 4:58 PM

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spooky ur using this pc for mainly video editing right so just asking why get a ryzan 9

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 4:58 PM

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that ssd

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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i have no idea what infinity memory clock you can get on the zen 3 architecture, but i'm guessing 1900 will be doable

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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I mightup the ram speed, kinda depends on how will work with Zen 3

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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@narrow parcel as opposed to what?

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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just get a threadripper

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ez pz

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Supposedly it's like 1900

narrow parcel Oct 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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well opposed to a ryzan 5 which is cheaper

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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6 cores vs 12

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:00 PM

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^

narrow parcel Oct 19, 2020, 5:00 PM

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yeh true

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i was just asking

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 5:00 PM

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You answered your own question

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Video editing is cpu intensive for the most part

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So obviously you want a better one

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Especially if it's part of your job

narrow parcel Oct 19, 2020, 5:00 PM

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mmm well yeh

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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remember when intel manufactered motherboards

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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I'll probably stick with 3200mhz on the RAM to start out and if there's any big benefit from going higher speed on Zen 3 I can always just swap out the RAM later

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:02 PM

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cant you get

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32 gigs

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at 3600 for a little bit more

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Although since I'm planning on buying most of the parts at the end of November with holiday sales and stuff hopefully there will be some actual data on ram stuff by the time I buy and I can switch the 3200 for faster

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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i aint seeing any ram breakthroughs

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pensive

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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what do you mean ram breakthroughs

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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ram

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big

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discovery

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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that's not what alan is talking about

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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no its what im talking about

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not him

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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it's not about ram suddenly becoming way better

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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yeah ik

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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i don't see how that's relevant to the conversation then?

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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ram

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honestly im on crack cocaine

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Seems like it

crimson scroll Oct 19, 2020, 5:05 PM

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doesn't seem like a very partner friendly topic

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Seems like it
@static pecan yes detective

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Sometimes my massive brain astounds even myself

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:07 PM

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yes

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:08 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7LjCy4 @calm forge

System Builder

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:09 PM

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oh

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bro no way

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you have the rx6000 already

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no way

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what are your current specs
@calm forge

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you in the future

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Laptop is a R7 3750H, GTX1650, 16GB DDR4 3200mhz (locked at 2400 because ASUS bios sucks lmao)

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:10 PM

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oh rip

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Yeah, when I bough the kit it was able to run at 3200 but then I had to get an RMA because the 1650 died after 7 months and after one of the last bios updates the ram speed is locked at 2400

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:11 PM

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:/

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feelsbadman

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Yee

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Oh, and for storage it came with a 660p 512GB NVME boot drive and I added a 1TB 2.5" Crucial SSD which I'm gonna transfer to the tower so I don't have to redownload games and move files and stuff

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:13 PM

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niceu

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im probs gonna get another 1tb nvme ssd for my build

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i only have 1 drive rn

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:14 PM

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I kinda wish they just did away with the 2.5" bay in favor of a bigger battery, but of course they did that on the new models lmao

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:14 PM

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lmao

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:15 PM

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FeelsBadMan

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:15 PM

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the emotes on this server are questionable

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©️

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Oh well, I can still push about 5 hours out of it using the Vega 10 iGPU, turning the brightness to 30% and turning off the RGB on the keyboard

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

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is the vega 56 good

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but like next gen rx gpus look sick

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I mean...the Vega 56 wasn't really that impressive on release and it's pretty old now anyway

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But yeah I'm hoping to pick up whatever their $500 3070 competitor card is which is why I just have "RX6000" on the list instead of a specific card name lol

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:18 PM

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got a recommended capture card?

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i've been getting into steraming lately

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steraming

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yes.

cedar herald Oct 19, 2020, 5:19 PM

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2 pcs?

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:19 PM

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no

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just 1

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im too broke for 2

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:20 PM

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I'm personally using an HD60 S that I won through a giveaway and I'm pretty happy with it

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:20 PM

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how do capture cards even work

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wajhgduyawgdatywgd so expensive 😢

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ill have to be streaming in sd

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:22 PM

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If I didn't already have the HD60 S I'd probably get the HD60 Pro for the 1440p 144z but I'm not gonna drop like $300 for it when I already have a capture card that works fine lol

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:23 PM

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lol

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does youtube

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even support

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144

molten basalt Oct 19, 2020, 5:23 PM

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sure

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:23 PM

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or is my pea brain

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:23 PM

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I think so

devout wolf Oct 19, 2020, 5:24 PM

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youtube kinda supports 120hz

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:24 PM

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They support 8K so they should def support 120hz lmao

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:24 PM

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me watching a 18271278127 fps clip on 60hz

devout wolf Oct 19, 2020, 5:24 PM

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you have to play a 120fps video, uploaded to youtube in half speed; in 2x speed

static pecan Oct 19, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Bruh

calm forge Oct 19, 2020, 5:25 PM

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.

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wait

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so