dont have reddit
#💻-building-a-pc
crimson scroll
...make a reddit?
lavish kraken
wait nvm i do
crimson scroll
that's like saying you don't have an amazon account so you can't buy anything from amazon
lavish kraken
the teacher jsut said idk ff you guys know iron man
WHO doesnt KNOW who IRON man is
some people but think u get it
crimson scroll
okay, not sure what that has to do with pc building
lavish kraken
a mouse either?
i mean technically is
but i was just saying
and it is iron man so he is robot
so he is a pc?
but not the type of pc people have
crimson scroll
that's some impressive mental gymnastics there
lavish kraken
what?
how
what?
?
wait what do you mean impressive mental gymnastics
do you mean my typing
static pecan
I...am struggling to comprehend this entire conversation lmao
How long have you had the 903 @lavish kraken? If it's still under warranty you can get a replacement like Saucy said or just get a refund and by a Razer mouse like you apparently want
Replacing switches is a very complicated solution to an easy to solve problem
Also I'm not quite sure why you're asking about Logitech and Razer products in the SteelSeries server???
static pecan
Eh, true I guess
lavish kraken
true
fluid pond
lmao
molten basalt
i usually avoid building a pc
fluid pond
why
fluid pond
oh
crimson scroll
can't learn if you don't expose yourself to the information
fluid pond
facts
calm forge
yeah
apart from the fact that i learned everything about pcs from youtube videos
and just built my pc on the fly
lol
crimson scroll
so...you exposed yourself to the information
static pecan
I got into tech and PC stuff on YouTube like a year or so before I ever actually built my first PC lol
devout wolf
...
cunning scaffold
are gen 4 nvmes really worth compared the extra cash compared to gen 3
static pecan
Depends what you're doing. If it's just loading up games then no, but if you're working with programs that really push the storage hard then yes the extra speed is worth it in that instance
pulsar fossil
@cunning scaffold https://youtu.be/4DKLA7w9eeA
Might be useful for you :)
I'm kinda wondering if the new generation of consoles take advantage of Gen4 NVMe if that means PC games will also be optimised for that in the future
static pecan
Probably, but as of right now there really isn't a noticeable difference between gen 3 and gen 4, but if you just wanna future proof then go ahead and snag a gen 4 if you've got the money
devout wolf
ah yes the f-word
lavish kraken
omg guys
lavish kraken
help
whats the difference between apex pro and apex 7
they look the same
ohh
merry dew
The switches
lavish kraken
yeah i know
just foudn it
ducky
what??? i didnt even say annything inna propriate
asgGAHH
i could've bought the apex 7 tkl red switch but it wouldnt make a difference because i have a ducky one 2 mini with red switches and the apex 7 tkl cost 30 dollars more!
my dream keyboard is the steelseries apex pro tkl
but i'll have to stay with the ducky for now
lean quarry
i am dreaming of the apex pro because i hated tkl because i use those keys for shortkeys
near hawk
Ayo?
lavish kraken
the mics are all connected and then i also dont want a hole in the headset if i have to remove it
tall cove
you... cant remove it
lavish kraken
i already have a mic and i only want the headset
near hawk
I believe that the Arctic 5 was removable? I was watching reviews on it and a lotta people were saying it
tall cove
ok...
lavish kraken
i already got like a really good mic
tall cove
its not demon
naive dagger
Then just use that mic
tall cove
you just use yopur mic as an input
naive dagger
Yeah
near hawk
Then what headset? So many people keep saying it I’m confused now lol
Like they say u can just take it off
tall cove
the 1 is removable
naive dagger
I think the arctis 1 has a removable
near hawk
Obhhh
lavish kraken
i think i might get hyperX
tall cove
@lavish kraken we mean you just use your microphone
naive dagger
You can change the mic that is being used
near hawk
i think i might get hyperX
@Hi.#0571 I have hyperx it’s good sound quality
Like noice
tall cove
just dont have your mic set to the headsets one
naive dagger
Your pc isn’t forced to use the headset
naive dagger
Wym
tall cove
ok?
lavish kraken
so i do need headset
naive dagger
Ok?
tall cove
no one said anything about speakers
dapper laurel
Just select ur good microphone as a input and the headset as a output in the settings menu
tall cove
for the microphone man
naive dagger
I meant headset mic
tall cove
thats what he means
lavish kraken
omg
near hawk
Ripp
tall cove
just set your mic input you the microphone you want to use
lavish kraken
demon loli i think i get a hyperX
near hawk
I didn’t even notice ur username was rip bruhh
naive dagger
Even if your headset has a mic, your pc can still use the other mic while playing sound on the headset
tall cove
you dont have to use the onboard microphone
lavish kraken
AHHH
dapper laurel
^^^
lavish kraken
ima get a hyperX stopp!
dapper laurel
Uh
near hawk
demon loli i think i get a hyperX
@Hi.#0571 ok! Good luck with it! I’m thinking of getting a new one myself tbh. No reason tho just wanna try something new
naive dagger
Ok cool
dapper laurel
Ok
calm forge
a
civic apex
I’m upgrading my pc from 4 gb ram should i get 8 or 16 gb
languid ember
16gb
crimson scroll
what's your current parts list
civic apex
I got this pc for free so
Core i5 6500
4gb ddr4 2133
500gb hdd
Shit hp 300w power supply
crimson scroll
at least it's on ddr4
civic apex
Yeah I’m glad it’s ddr4 but hp should of put at least 8 gb
crimson scroll
for just gaming i would recommend 2x8gb, but what gpu do you have
i'm gonna guess your system is gonna need a lot more upgrades to get to decent performance in modern games
the 6500 is still capable, too bad it's locked
civic apex
None lol just the integrated hd530
civic apex
Im only 13 so I’m still saving up for something to game with
But like 100 dollars
But usually for Christmas I get 50 bucks so in a couple of months 150
crimson scroll
that's...not a lot
civic apex
Yeah I wish I had more
crimson scroll
i'd save up more, maybe go used optiplex and low profile card if you really want to game soon
should be around $200
and sell what you have now
or just wait longer
slate kelp
you need way more money to get a decent pc
civic apex
Yeah
But mine works fine for now for games like portal 2 run at medium 1080p at around 40fps so I’m ok for now
civic apex
For more intensive games I just use GeForce now
slate kelp
ima build one this x mas
civic apex
Nice
noble oak
me too
arctic delta
Can yall tell me what you think of this $1500 ITX build I put together on PC Part Picker? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f2VQz7
devout wolf
does the x53 fit in that case?
ouch... itx tax
1660S in a $1500 build
oh lmao nvm
that 1660S is priced like a 2060S
crimson scroll
love it when it shows no prices for me
anyways, what are you looking to do with the system?
arctic delta
1660S in a $1500 build
@devout wolf it should say 2060s thats what it shows for me
anyways, what are you looking to do with the system?
@crimson scroll im not planning to do anything I already have a build I was thinking about putting this together for a friend
does the x53 fit in that case?
@devout wolf the x53 is a 240 not a 280 so it should
And there would be little point to put anything smaller than a 240
crimson scroll
what is the friend doing with the build
arctic delta
More workstation stuff than gaming but I want them to be able to game as well
Their current laptop was around 1k I think
So a small upgrade
crimson scroll
catch you up on what
crimson scroll
just scroll up in the chat if you want to know what's happening
static pecan
Anyone willing to pay $390 for a 1660S deserves to be scammed
calm forge
5700xt can outperform the 2070s at the price of a 2060s
Anyone willing to pay $390 for a 1660S deserves to be scammed
@static pecan fr
static pecan
You can get a triple fan XFX 5700XT for $380 lmaoooooo
static pecan
calm forge
thats literally 110 dollars away fro the 3070
LOL
if youre getting a 1660s that expensive might aswell get this
calm forge
IKR
fierce plaza
1660s for 390???? the cheapest 1660s is like 250. if your gonna spend 390 for a 1660s you might aswell get a 3070 for 100 more
gilded frost
Depends. 150-250 more is a lot for people with budgets
fierce plaza
ohhh i see, the 1660s is out of stock everywhere except amazon, its like 260 on adorama accord to pc part picker and amazon is just overpricing it
gilded frost
You’d technically be paying double
fierce plaza
yeah but this is a 1500 itx build
gilded frost
ITX for 1500, jeez
arctic delta
what kind of workstation stuff
@crimson scroll i dont actually know I just know he doesn't game that much, but like i said i still want him to be able to
gilded frost
32 gb ram ryzen 7 3070 4 tb hdd 1 tb m.2 650 psu
That would work
New ryzen generation releases tomorrow
crimson scroll
announcement is tomorrow
release is not necessarily tomorrow
also that is a generic list, we don't know if 32gb is even necessary for the workload
gilded frost
Our server farms have tens of tb of ram
crimson scroll
and?
arctic delta
Hold the **** up
crimson scroll
is his friend running a server farm?
arctic delta
Did you just say they announcing zen 3 tomorrow?
gilded frost
Well just saying if you want to talk unnecessarily lol
crimson scroll
you're the only one talking unnecessarily though
gilded frost
Yea @arctic delta announcement
arctic delta
LETS GO
crimson scroll
you just threw out some parts without knowing what the goal of the system is
arctic delta
Hype
gilded frost
32 gb of ram is worth it all around
crimson scroll
not necessarily
arctic delta
32 gb isn't worth it on itx with a 1500 budget
gilded frost
The sweetspot really
gilded frost
32 gb ram might be 150?
arctic delta
Imo its not worth it, also the itx is cause they need portability
crimson scroll
amount of ram and case size are not really dependent, not until you get into the very large amounts
gilded frost
theres ITX boards that can take over 128 ram now im pretty sure#
crimson scroll
if we're talking 8, 16, 32, even 64gb potentially, you can still work in 2 slots
but anyways
both of you are wrong
everything depends on the situation
it's not as clear cut as saying 32 is always good
or 32 is always bad
gilded frost
So nothing would be wrong
crimson scroll
things can be wrong for the situation
arctic delta
Its light workstation yall not 8 VMs, its editing, software stuff
crimson scroll
what part of that aren't you getting
why do you think i was asking reign for what specific workloads his friend was doing
so we can maybe find out the specific situation???
so we can recommend stuff that would make sense for the situation???
use your brain donsta
gilded frost
You said it depends on the situation. I brought parts for gaming, performance.
crimson scroll
32gb ram for gaming?
unless you're doing heavy cities skylines shit
probably not necessary
arctic delta
It doesnt really matter at this point, this is becoming heated, let's drop it
crimson scroll
so even then, that doesn't make sense
crimson scroll
future proofing is a meme
arctic delta
Besides 32 gb on 2 dimm slots is more expensive anyways
gilded frost
How the minimum requirements have changed by double
arctic delta
Does b550 have pcie 4.0? I cant remember off the top of my head
arctic delta
Sick
gilded frost
Has a couple I’m pretty sure. Haven’t touched those boards in a while though
crimson scroll
it has 20x pcie 4.0 lanes
crimson scroll
amd product page has the specs
strong bolt
can you tell me the best gaming pc for a budget of $450???
devout wolf
ya 16x reserved for gpu
@cedar herald it's not for the gpu
that's what the cpu's pcie lanes are for
arctic delta
@crimson scroll
I switched it up a bit, I think this would be much better than the other one because my friend has integrated graphics before so this will still be a massive upgrade
crimson scroll
best gaming pc for a budget of 450...probably used
arctic delta
crimson scroll
overpriced ssd imo, and does he need 4tb of storage?
also i'd avoid vengeance ram
crimson scroll
it's meh for the price
devout wolf
inconsistent binning
they can rarely run their rated speed
vulcan z is cheaper and has better binning
arctic delta
Now that I think about it yeah my 3600mhz 16gb doesn't actually run at 3600
I have it on 3400
It is cheap though
devout wolf
vulcan z is cheaper
arctic delta
And the performance isn't that important its only important as long as it gets to at least 3000mhz honestly
And doesn't die
crimson scroll
good motherboard choice though, buildzoid is okay with it, it just needs airflow across the vrms for any big overclocking
arctic delta
Yeah well not gonna need OC on 3700x anyways
crimson scroll
the cheaper option is the asrock b550m itx ac
arctic delta
True but i wanted something a little more high end
crimson scroll
yeah and the asrock has bad vrms comparatively
crimson scroll
the tax on itx just sucks a lot
arctic delta
Yeah itx boards and cases prices suck
The case I want is listed for like 800 on pc part picker rn
The only problem is idk what CPU he has rn so the 3700x might not even be an upgrade but I bet it is
cedar herald
@devout wolf the 20 pcie 4 lanes are passed through from the cpu
the other 4 lanes are passed through to the chipset which become pcie 3
and are used for usb sata wifi etc
unlike intel mobos, amds dont have their own lanes
they rely on the cpu for em
thats y third gen ryzen has 24 lanes compared to intels 16 lanes
for intel only the gpu has direct connection to cpu and the mobos chipset offers the rest of the lanes
the gpu and m.2 are wired straight to the cpu and rest of slots are through the 4 lane passthrough from chipset to ryzen
strong bolt
hey would this be a good budget pc? tell me if I am missing something https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JTjMnL
devout wolf
overpriced ssd
change case and psu too
metallic gear neo air is like $50
also motherboard is more expensive than b450
strong bolt
thanks
strong bolt
wait whats an ssd
devout wolf
google is your best friend
strong bolt
ok?
devout wolf
would recommend going for the 3400g if you can
3200g can't really handle much of a gpu upgrade
naive dagger
wait whats an ssd
@strong bolt solid state drive—it’s faster than a normal hard drive
strong bolt
your cpu isn't compatible with your motherboard
I changed the motherboard https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PfcscT
can you post a video on how to build a pc please
mellow ferry
there will be a lot of videos on youtube for that
mellow ferry
ive never built one either dw 😄
strong bolt
UwU
mellow ferry
ive got a p-p-prebuilt at the moment 😰
static pecan
Heathen!
Also you can literally type into google "How to build a PC" and it'll come back with literally thousands of videos for first time builders. That's exactly how I learned to build my first one. I just watched a bunch of YouTube build guides @strong bolt
devout wolf
your cpu isn't compatible with your motherboard
@strong bolt it is
pcpp just gives a warning for bios updates which was a 2019 problem
static pecan
Most new mobos will ship with updated BIOS now, so unless you just happen to find a board that's been sitting on a shelf for over a year you won't have an issue
arctic delta
thats y third gen ryzen has 24 lanes compared to intels 16 lanes
@cedar herald this is why im AMD gang for life 😈😈
ive got a p-p-prebuilt at the moment 😰
@mellow ferry 😳😳😳
cedar herald
@arctic delta even though intel only has 16 lanes thats not bad. The 16 lanes are used for the gpu and it has a connection called DMI 3 i think to the mobos chipset which has 20 lanes of its own for storage sata wifi etc
so technically overall u get more lanes with intel
of course i am still with amd
i got tired of blue
devout wolf
don't care about brands
intel 10th gen is awesome
10400 is amazing
beats the 3600 for cheaper... except for the part where they crippled it with the memory limit on b460
fierce plaza
ltt store.com
can you post a video on how to build a pc please
@strong bolt search linus tech tips first person view, he does the build with a go pro on his head
wispy salmon
Hello, my friend made a list for me. With a 2060 Super it should get about 300fps in Valorant. If I spent about an extra $100 for the 3070 when it releases, is it worth it???
Here are the specs
i5 9600k 3.7ghz
Cooler Master Hyper 2 1 2 EVO
B365M DS3H
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
Samsung 860 Evo 500gb 2.5" Solid State Drive
RTX 3070 (when it comes out)
NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case
Thermaltake Smart 500w 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
devout wolf
list is meh ngl
don't get 9th gen intel now, dead platform
Hyper 212 is outdated and expensive
LPX is just... vulcan z exists
Overpriced ssd
Could use a case that pulls air from this dimension
And change psu to a Antec NeoEco Gold Zen
untold fern
Probably need more than 500W for a 30xx. Don't quote me on that tho
wispy salmon
Im trying to stay under $1,300
molten basalt
u need a better power supply if u get a 30 series
wispy salmon
Would the Cooler Master MWE Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply be good?
molten basalt
yah just make sure it has 2 dedicated 8 pin cables
wispy salmon
Any CPUs you would recommend
molten basalt
no i dont know any
wispy salmon
What do ya'll think about this list?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
wispy salmon
ik i have a different list now
I made a new one off what Rafee said with that website
crimson scroll
great well
we don't know what it is
that's what i'm telling you
you posted the link to the generic editor
look at the picture
one of them is the link you posted
one of them is a unique link to a list
wispy salmon
Ohh I'm sorry here https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rc8BDc
untold fern
You don't really need a separate CPU cooler, the CPU comes with one
devout wolf
interesting
crimson scroll
good ssd choice
good case choice
its...an okay motherboard i guess?
also zen3 announcement tomorrow, maybe hold off and see what that's like
untold fern
Might have storage issues with only 500GB
wispy salmon
Hm all of the 1440 144hz are either too big for my liking or $500
untold fern
1080p you probably don't need a 30xx then
crimson scroll
i can't tell you how big is too big but 27" is a pretty standard size for 1440p and it works fine for me
wispy salmon
Have you found one under $500? I'm not trying to go that hard on a monitor yet.
I'm mostly looking just to get off this gaming laptop and upgrade to something better and sell this.
crimson scroll
2719dgf goes for under 300, replaced in the product lineup with the 2721dgf which is ips instead of the 19's tn, and it goes on sale for around 350
the 2721dgf uses the same panel as the lg 850s as well, and those go for 400 or less on sale
doesn't have everything but it's a starting point
wispy salmon
If i were to get a 144hz 1440 it would be AOC CQ27G1 $250
calm forge
im using a c27g1 rn
crimson scroll
crimson scroll
i never would have guessed
fluid pond
Lmao
static pecan
hype hype hype
naive dagger
What time zone are you in @static pecan
lean quarry
Hype
calm forge
@calm forge you mean cq27g1?
@fluid pond thats a different one
one is 2k and one is 1080p
fluid pond
Yeah I realized
calm ore
is a ryzen 7 2700x with a 1650 and 16 gb of ram is it good for streaming like a secondary pc for streaming is it good?
static pecan
@naive dagger CST
naive dagger
Ok
calm forge
is a ryzen 7 2700x with a 1650 and 16 gb of ram is it good for streaming like a secondary pc for streaming is it good?
@calm ore that would be a secondary pc but the 2700x in a secondary pc makes no sense
calm ore
@calm ore that would be a secondary pc but the 2700x in a secondary pc makes no sense
@calm forge by that i meant IF A THAT IS A GOOD COMPUTER TO STREAM IN im going to get another computer with a i9 10900k and im seeing if it will be a good streaming pc for it HOLY CRAP
crimson scroll
it'll work fine, you can use the cpu to do x264 or nvenc on the 1650 to stream, even though the 1650 is using the older volta nvenc
i think your money would probably be better spent just using nvenc on whatever gpu you get that you're pairing with the 10900k though
also why a 10900k
tall cove
that new nzxt n7 z490 looks pretty good
naive dagger
ive gotten insta ads for it lmao
molten basalt
same
static pecan
November is gonna be good. Hopefully the RX6000 GPUs will actually be available before next year lol https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dXVV3Z
fallow bay
Is the 5000 series the same price as zen 2
static pecan
No, slightly more expensive. The 5900X is $550 compared to the 3900XT being $500 at launch
static pecan
They gave a tease with some 4K 60FPS Borderlands 3 gameplay but the actual GPU event is on the 28th
static pecan
Np
devout wolf
that new nzxt n7 z490 looks pretty good
@tall cove the IO is miserable tho, rip
asrock io
but it's a good motherboard just paying extra for aesthetics
spring osprey
I need help seeing if my pc setup is good before i buy it
specs:
-Ryzen 5 5600X
-Aorus B550I PRO AX
-32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200Mhz CL16 (2 x 16 GB)
-EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 XC3 8GB
-Sabrent rocket Q 2TB NVMe SSD
-NZXT H1 Mini-itx case
-Viotek GNV29CB Ultrawide 120hz monitor
static pecan
Don't use Vengeance RAM and wait for AMDs GPU announcement at the end of the month before buying a 3070. There's a good chance they'll deliver the same performance of a 3070 with more VRAM at the same or a lower price point. On top of that you might actually be able to get an AMD GPU before 2021 unlike 30 series
Also, why 1080p? For the performance level you're getting you can easily push 120+ FPS in 1440p with a system like that
spring osprey
my local retailer is not gonna sell big navi AND they are gonna give me an early sample before anyone can buy it from them
still gotta pay for it tho
static pecan
Somehow I find that a bit hard to believe, but hey it's not my place to judge. Regardless, my points about the vengeance ram and 1080p monitor still stand. There are much better and cheaper alternative to vengeance + if you're going 1080p at least get a 240hz monitor because a 3070 will push way more than 120FPS lol
spring osprey
you cant really get an ultrawide monitor on 240hz
devout wolf
don't get a rocket q as a boot drive
static pecan
Then go 1440p at 144hz
devout wolf
wait first, use http://pcpartpicker.com/list
static pecan
There are plenty of ultrawides in that space
fluid pond
What 3600 should I get reg x or xt?
static pecan
Performance gains on the XT are meh so if those are your two choices just go with the 3600X
fluid pond
So 3600x over 3600
spring osprey
also remember i live in a very annoying place to ship
my arctis 3's were held for a month
static pecan
If the 3600 is cheaper then go for that because you can easily OC that chip to get 3600XT speeds @fluid pond
calm forge
alahn
fluid pond
I guess ill spend 10 extra dollars for a 3600x at walmart lmao
calm forge
pretty pog build
fluid pond
Imma see if Best Buy can price match lol
calm forge
i wouldnt change anything apart from the psu
fluid pond
Walmart 3600x is 209 usd
fluid pond
Not one near me
fluid pond
Same price for 3600x online
And 18- onlin3
Oh boy
180 usd online* at micro center
spring osprey
@static pecan https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wjjTwz
dusky lark
you not gonna get an aio?
prime thicket
I believe the H1 comes with one
spring osprey
nzxt h1 comes with one, yea
static pecan
Personally I would go with a more reputable brand for the storage, same with the monitor. AOC makes some great curved gaming monitors for decent prices. Also, have you made sure that XC3 will fit into the H1?@spring osprey
prime thicket
^ The monitor I sent has extremely good reviews and isn't even that expensive for a 1440p 144hz ultrawide
devout wolf
@static pecan brands don't matter for ssds
i recommended that ssd because it's tlc, has dram and a sm2262en
emphasis on the sm2262en
doesn't matter who makes the ssd, they all take the controller from a selection of phison, sm, marvell or ig controllers
crimson scroll
well...i would say brand kind of matters
i would avoid patriot
because they do sketchy shit as a company
devout wolf
true
crimson scroll
it's like avoiding msi as a company
calm forge
yeah
crimson scroll
they need a lot of pr training
crimson scroll
meh
crimson scroll
gigabyte OC has been 370 in the past
static pecan
Of course, it's a moot point if you can fit in into your case
calm forge
YOu can get a triple fan XFX for $380 lol
@static pecan yeah but then id have to worry about clearence in my case
and then id have to find another route for my aio lol
merry dew
I have a 1440P 144hz 32 incher samsung.
noble oak
is a setup with 1tb m2 with 2070 super gfx cards plus 32 gb of ram
arctic delta
does anyone here have an opinion on the NZXT Kraken X63? I'm looking into getting an AIO and i kinda wanted this one but ive seen some bad reviews and am now skeptical
devout wolf
i mean it's aight, just really expensive
crimson scroll
@noble oak is that a question?
noble oak
ye because then im gonna buy iy @crimson scroll
crimson scroll
so what's the question
people in here need to clearly set out what they're asking or saying otherwise it makes it hard to help'
noble oak
is it a good combo
crimson scroll
depends on the price and what you're using it for
prime thicket
Yeap
arctic delta
yo im looking at the specs for the 2017 macbook air and it has a dual core CPU with 8 gb of ram at 1600mhz
😂
bro what
honest dagger
its a macbook i don't know what you expected
arctic delta
true lol
fluid pond
So I’m building my pc soon can a pwm fan run under a dc setting in the motherboard control?
I bought an extra fan for my case but its pwm and my case comes with 3 pin fans
crimson scroll
pwm would be four pin
motherboard headers should mostly all be four or six pin now
and you can put in 3 pin fans into 4 pin headers
devout wolf
and most modern motherboards allow you to choose between dc/pwm in the bios for a fan header
fluid pond
Alright
fluid pond
So if I cant secure a 3070 what should I get?
fierce plaza
5800 amd cards?
fluid pond
But I’m still gonna get it lol
static pecan
Whatever the AMD competitor to the 3070 is going to be, which will probably be the 6700XT
fierce plaza
wait
fluid pond
But when will those release lmao they already pushing off the cpu release till November 5th
fierce plaza
whats the max for a gpu?
fluid pond
Plu I wont be able to get an aib card till 2021 for amd
fluid pond
400 but wears gonna for 500 for 3070 but prob 550 for the msi gaming trio
static pecan
They didn't push the CPU release lol. The GPUs will probably release around the same time, and you'll probably be able to actually get an AMD card instead of having to wait at least until 2021 but probably longer for a 3070
fluid pond
All amd will have at launch is the reference card
Which the cooling on it looks normal at least
static pecan
Hey if you want to spend more money and have to wait even longer for a card I can't stop you lol
static pecan
Also continuing to buy MSI just incentives their shady business practices even more and doesn't hold them accountable as a company
I wouldn't touch any MSI product with a 10 foot pole until they get their act together
fluid pond
Yeah but I’m getting the motherboard already and I’m not returning that lmao
It’s one the best b550s on the market lmao
I got the gaming edge WiFi
static pecan
I mean, I personally don't want to support a company that's actively scamming its customers and paying for positive reviews on products then making reviewers sign NDAs to not talk about it but hey, you do you
fluid pond
I mean I bought it before scalping
And honestly business model doesnt matter to me as long as they have good products
Everyone still buys apple products but the products were made with illegal labor basically which was funded by apple
static pecan
If they have to pay for positive reviews that should be a red flag for the quality of the product though. If a company knows it created a good product they shouldn't be influencing independent reviews to say good things about it.
fierce plaza
bruh
fluid pond
Every business is shady
static pecan
I don't buy Apple products either lmaoooooo
fierce plaza
i found this good mobo but now im having second thoughts
its an msi board
for like 90$
this one
fluid pond
Also they aren’t buying reviews from hardware unboxes who reviews every b550 motherboard thermals based
Thats what I went off of
And what I could afford
crimson scroll
so
static pecan
Every business is shady, but you as the consumer have the power to decide whether you want to support truly scummy companies or not. I choose to take my business to companies that are honest about their products and allow reviewers to do their jobs and provide all of the honest information to me, the consumer
fluid pond
fluid pond
This video is what I based my decision off of
crimson scroll
and the reviewer gives the car a positive review
BUT
tesla goes to five smaller reviewers
and threatens them unless they delay their reviews or change them
same situation
just because a product may be good doesn't make the company good
static pecan
^
crimson scroll
i do agree that hardware unboxed is a pretty good source
but he's reviewing on performance here
fluid pond
Exactly
crimson scroll
do you only care about performance and not ethics
fluid pond
Thats what I choose off of
crimson scroll
if you were the owner of a business, and you could choose to knowingly outsource to child sweatshops instead of normal laborers, you would?
fluid pond
I care about performance
static pecan
Lmao
fluid pond
People buy products from companies that outsource to sweartshops all the time
You act like only one company does it
crimson scroll
where do i act like only one company does it
static pecan
So you, as a human being, advocate for forced child labor in dangerous conditions
crimson scroll
sure seems like it
fluid pond
But there’s a lot of products
crimson scroll
"i care about performance" was your response to me
fluid pond
Are made that way
crimson scroll
and you can choose to not shop those products
static pecan
Supporting companies that practice that is literally the same as you supporting that practice
crimson scroll
in this situation, go with the companies that are not ethically shady
fluid pond
You dont think a single product you have bought was made in a sweatshop
There’s at least one thing you own that was
crimson scroll
the point is when it's avoidable
why are you not trying to avoid it
when you KNOW it's happening
yes, there's a lot of things being made illegally or unethically and we don't know about them all
but when you do know
why are you still choosing that OVER companies that do NOT have that stigma associated
static pecan
Nike openly and knowingly has used/uses child labor in China to manufacture their products and have been exposed for it, so I don't buy Nike
crimson scroll
the sweatshops was an example
how dense are you
read what i just wrote
about illegally or unethically making things
or, extrapolating
to conducting business
you know exactly what we mean and you're trying to be pedantic
you can't outargue me
static pecan
He's trying to use some big brain logic to find a way to prove we're wrong somehow lol
fluid pond
I’m not I’m trying to get you to explain the logic about it
crimson scroll
the logic is very simple
fluid pond
It doesnt take away the fact that its a good product
crimson scroll
did the company do something ethically shady recently?
what steps have they taken to rectify their mistakes?
oh, none?
oh, they made another error in the meantime?
hmmm
logic seems pretty clear to me there bro
static pecan
The logic is this: supporting shady companies for doing shady things is the same as you advocating and supporting those practices as well. How good a product of theirs is is irrelevant when talking about ethics and basic human decency
crimson scroll
you would also fit in well as a ceo of a big company
profit above all else
also why are we looking at the b450m bazooka
static pecan
Talking about how supporting shady companies doing shady things is bad and you shouldn't do it
hearty ravine
well
this is a chat for talking about pc parts
so
id appreciate it if u guys
didnt
at least here lol
static pecan
It started out specifically talking about MSI
crimson scroll
we're explaining why we aren't picking certain parts
static pecan
^
static pecan
Okie
celest schooner
does anyone have DIGITAL RGB NEON LED KIT?
crimson scroll
you have a question on it?
celest schooner
@crimson scroll yea.
crimson scroll
okay
crimson scroll
looks like it's supported
how do you have it connected to your motherboard
and which motherboard do you have
celest schooner
z390 aorus. the top 5v d_led2 header
crimson scroll
there's several of those but they should all be the same for drgb support as far as i know
it's not showing up in the rgb fusion 2.0 software?
celest schooner
i also tried downloading asus aura sync software but it didnt pick it up either
define showing up
crimson scroll
showing up as a controllable component in the fusion software
also, is the strip itself getting power and lighting up?
celest schooner
no. its not working. as in not lighting up at all
hmmm my RAM tab just dissappeared in the RGB fushion
havent seen that before
crimson scroll
well rgb fusion is notorious for being finicky
celest schooner
@crimson scroll does it matter what end you plug the neon strip in from?
crimson scroll
one is female and one is male
celest schooner
I wouldn't think so?
celest schooner
Ah true
crimson scroll
your motherboard will have the pins, you need to stick the female end onto those pins
although
there should be an adapter in between
celest schooner
I mean for the strip.
crimson scroll
because different motherboards use different standards
celest schooner
Becuase I used the male end on one and the female end on the other
crimson scroll
on one what
celest schooner
The strip
crimson scroll
you connected two strips together?
celest schooner
No. I have main header > connected to the strip in the front, and then the extendtion cable off the main header connected to the one on the bottom/back
crimson scroll
so you don't use the adapter anywhere?
or is that what you mean by extension cable
crimson scroll
the spec sheet says all three versions of the kit come with an adapter
from phanteks 3pin to drgb 3pin
crimson scroll
try using just one strip for now, connecting it to the adapter, and then the adapter to the motherboard
celest schooner
Ah well 1 works
celest schooner
And my ram is back.
crimson scroll
you can either use the second adapter and connect the second strip to that
or daisy chain the two strips
celest schooner
Daisy chain is not an option. And isn't it only 1 adapter and 1 extension?
crimson scroll
i don't know what came with your kit
phanteks' spec sheet is not being very informative
okay i assume you got the combo set and that's why you have two led strips
celest schooner
crimson scroll
so you'll need to use the extension cable to daisy chain the two
and then connect one of them to the adapter, which then goes to your motherboard drgb header
crimson scroll
you did extension straight to mobo right
celest schooner
Adapter > extension > strip
crimson scroll
hmm
celest schooner
Wait ill try your way. 1 sec
crimson scroll
so mobo > adapter > strip > extension > strip would work
i think
assuming you need the two strips to be further apart
crimson scroll
hmm
well i don't know
i assume everything was plugged in the correct orientation
celest schooner
@crimson scroll yea. because there is only one way to plug it in anyway
devout wolf
ooh rgb
yes rgb fusion sucks, no way around it either
and yes it's not color accurate either
don't think it should be a completely different hue tho, but it's rgb fusion what do you expect
fierce plaza
rgb motherboard, ram, gpu, psu, ssd, and hdd. soon we will have rgb cpu.
toxic raftBOT
wryxn#1249 has been warned
fierce plaza
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fierce plaza
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fierce plaza
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fierce plaza
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lavish kraken
what is that ok?
lavish kraken
OH dude i can help you
calm forge
please
lavish kraken
did u build a pc?
calm forge
yeah
lavish kraken
there thats the problem(not bad)
when u build a pc it puts ram at different speed
my was at 2600 or 2400
and i changed it to the normal speed
calm forge
huh
lavish kraken
what motherboard do u have?
calm forge
lol
lavish kraken
yeah
calm forge
mhm
lavish kraken
in the bios go to oc tweaker
calm forge
mhm
lavish kraken
go down to load xmp settings
calm forge
mhm
lavish kraken
make sure its on xmp 2.0 profile
and then click Dram frequency
and set it to the speed your ram is supposed to be
uhh what ram do youhave?
calm forge
really
lavish kraken
not sure
calm forge
i thought the in use
lavish kraken
i think uh
calm forge
lol
ok
imma be getting another pair of 8x2
so like
will i have to do that again
@lavish kraken
fierce plaza
4133
lavish kraken
then its already set
fierce plaza
my motherboard that i plan on getting for my pc supports like 2800-4133
sadly no m.2
lavish kraken
also what point getting more ram with same speed
want 4 ram sticks?
or just switching them out
rustic spoke
dual channel / quad channel i guess
calm forge
no its just like
so i have extra ram
lol
but just like same speed
so quad channel yeah
crimson scroll
3600 megabytes... Lol
calm forge
i tripped over a building
crimson scroll
?
nova bough
candid valley
i need help with my pc one of my fans makes a loud and annoying sound
crimson scroll
anything physically obstructing it
arctic delta
I just found out that people have OCed to 7.08GHz before thats insane
frank shoal
crimson scroll
exotic cooling @frank shoal
crimson scroll
could be bad at a certain rpm, could be the bearing got messed up
the fan is also physically fine? fan blades all intact
candid valley
i think it might be the bearing but yeah everything is all fine it looks as good as new
and the rpm is not a problem i don't think because it always runs the same
candid valley
oh ok and how would i know what part its coming from
crimson scroll
listen to it
if the sound rotates with the blade
that means it's on the thing that spins
if not, maybe you can hear from what corner it's coming from, for example
you generally don't want to spin the fans manually but just doing it a couple of times for this won't break the fan
but also just try plugging it back in and see if it works
and if it's still rattling then rma it
static pecan
If the fan is under warranty then contact the manufacturer for a replacement
candid valley
oh ok thanks
static pecan
Yee, that's also what an RMA is lol
candid valley
ohh ok
devout wolf
have something to ask?
devout wolf
lol
static pecan
Sleep is for the weak!
But also my sleep schedule is pretty much non existent at this point so I'm around quite a lot
devout wolf
sleep for a week*
calm forge
im coming for you.
crimson scroll
Don't compete on how little you sleep, it's not worth it or cool
gilded frost
Or healthy to be frank