#💻-building-a-pc

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crimson scroll
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also i may or may not be biased as an owner of a 2600

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you just gave away your age

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and your location

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should probably not show your full name tbh

naive dagger
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yeah

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rip sam

static pecan
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Mans just doxed himself lmaoooooo

calm forge
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lmao

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imma be freeze framing that window

noble oak
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lol

loud goblet
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@crimson scroll wait

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what lmao?

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im probs gonna die

crimson scroll
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your name

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plugged it into google, found a gofundme

loud goblet
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bruh

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i deleted it lmao dont dox me ok

crimson scroll
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yeah that's why i warned you

loud goblet
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thanks my guy

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imma be freeze framing that window
@calm forge hell nah

calm forge
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@calm forge hell nah
@loud goblet heeh

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But Saucy everyone knows AMD can't possibly compete with Intel! The 2600 is a loser's CPU! /s
@static pecan well

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amd cpus werent created for gaming

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they were more of like

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productivity

crimson scroll
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don't lie

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that's where they perform better relative to intel yes

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but not necessarily how they're marketed

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first thing on both pages is about gaming

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threadripper is where they market towards productivity

noble oak
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@noble oak how much did you pay for it
@fierce plaza 600

calm forge
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first thing on both pages is about gaming
@crimson scroll i mean because people only buy them to play games basically

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but if more people bought them for productivity

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theyd change that instantly

crimson scroll
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🤔

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you're still wrong

naive dagger
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i love ryzen

calm forge
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i love refrigerators

naive dagger
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refrig

devout wolf
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I love how everyone is suddenly a capacitor engineer now

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POSCAP vs MLCC is so generalized, it’s not as simple as X is better than Y

naive dagger
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i havent graduated yet but ofc i know more than anyone ever will, especially rafee

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and if you disagree

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no

devout wolf
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besides, the caps on the back of the cards aren’t even POSCAPs, they’re SP-Caps

noble oak
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can someone rat emy extreme overkill f*** off pc list

crimson scroll
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sure

noble oak
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ok

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1 min

crimson scroll
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vengeance memory and only 3200cl16

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only a 860 evo 2tb as a backup ssd

noble oak
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is that bad??

crimson scroll
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only one 1440p 240hz monitor

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this is a bad overkill pc

noble oak
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?

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what should i change

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or am i missing a joke

crimson scroll
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get pcie 4.0 ssds

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and more monitors

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yeah i'm mostly joking, not about the ram though

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2x16 is better than 4x8 anyways for your imc

noble oak
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  1. intel 2. later down the line yeah but not rn
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ok

crimson scroll
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you can use pcie 4.0 ssds on pcie 3.0 slots

noble oak
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is it faster tho?

crimson scroll
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depends on what you're doing

noble oak
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gaming?

crimson scroll
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why get the 3090

noble oak
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like high end 1440p ultra at solid 240 1%

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also "ihavetohavethebest" fever which is really annoying and i dont get it but it haunts me

crimson scroll
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then fix your ram

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its far from the best

noble oak
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ok thx

crimson scroll
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and the cpu cooler

noble oak
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????

crimson scroll
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ek aio 360 is better

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so is the arctic liquid freezer II 360

noble oak
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im fine with the performance cause i like the screen and its only a few degrees or am i wrong?

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but i love the screen

crimson scroll
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so...then why not get the 3080

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it's only a few fps

noble oak
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fps is more important cause i got 9 fans in a pc011d so thermals are still good

crimson scroll
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whatever

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your money

noble oak
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thx

static pecan
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The extra $700 for maybe 15 FPS is not at all justifiable lmao

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Compared to a 3080

noble oak
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The extra $700 for maybe 15 FPS is not at all justifiable lmao = also "ihavetohavethebest" fever

static pecan
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Hey, if you want to waste your hard earned money on pointless bull$hit, go right ahead

noble oak
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ok i will🥰

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thank you😃

mighty burrow
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So, I know this is the SteelSeries discord server and all, but, be honest. What gaming peripheral company is the best?

naive dagger
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It’s all preference

devout wolf
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no brand is good

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no brand is bad

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it's the specific model that matters

calm forge
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id probably switch out like 3 parts

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but

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pogu

noble oak
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@mighty burrow id say razer for standard keyboards razer and for mice, it would be a tie between the razer viper ultimate and the g502 lightspeed

gilded frost
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**Steel series dominates headphones

Razor dominates keyboard/maybe mice

Glorious dominates mouse pads/mice

Hyper x dominates microphones

Just off the top of my head, probably missing some. **

merry dew
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hyperx doesnt do good headset mics tbh

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all the ones my friends have sound like muffled garbage

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ill pick clearcast from the A5 anytime over hyperx

crimson scroll
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This is so generalized

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For peripherals especially its personal preference that matters

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Obviously build quality, cs, etc. matter

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But best peripheral company is kinda... Hard to label

merry dew
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yeah

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But I just stated a fact, it isnt an opinion. hyperx headset mic sounds like muffled garbage in comparison to e.g the clearcast

crimson scroll
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It's one example

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You and your friends

noble oak
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Keyboards razer<anything

devout wolf
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keyboards are extremely preference based

pulsar fossil
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@noble oak I mean fair but you'd take a cheap off brand office keyboard with a wrong layout over a Razer one? I wouldn't :p

unborn kiln
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I think you meant "I wouldn't be able to tell the difference"😉

pulsar fossil
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I would

unborn kiln
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I am joking lol

pulsar fossil
sturdy comet
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**Steel series dominates headphones

Razor dominates keyboard/maybe mice

Glorious dominates mouse pads/mice

Hyper x dominates microphones

Just off the top of my head, probably missing some. **
@gilded frost well for headphones? im sorry but that aint true, gotta love steelseries, but i would take a studio headset any day over Xd

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same goes for all the other brands.. just kinda opinion based 😛

unborn kiln
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I agree but when it comes to pricing Steelseries will win anyday

sturdy comet
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eh no lmao

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thats even the worst part

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gl with your new rgb steelseries mousepad for 170$ xd

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only thing i would buy from steelseries would be a mouse, since i have large hands, and other brands cant make a propper mouse...

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for example with 60% boards... (since steelseries doesn have them... ;/) 60% Boards: HK Venus > Kemove61 > GMMK = GK61 > AP2 >= Ducky > RK61 > DK61 by far cheaper, and better..

devout wolf
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yeah no for pricing lol

sturdy comet
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headphones, you have a whole studio category that is better as just ''gaming'' name dropped on 😦

calm forge
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i wouldnt really say razer dominates

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its the custom keyboard makers like taeha types that dominates

lean quarry
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What the f just got realesed i thought that the XL was big.......

naive dagger
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Yeah ik

stoic walrus
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@stoic walrus what company do you want it from
@calm forge any. i don't want to risk using the enermax leaky aio

calm forge
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oh

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uhm

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ok

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let me do some research on aios

stoic walrus
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i wouldn't mind trying to create a loop its just something i've not done before

calm forge
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lmao

noble oak
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after i get my setup where i want it

calm forge
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im a total noob when it comes to loops

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but if its your first loop id try soft tubing

noble oak
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imma build my own mechanical keyboard with gateron black inks 🤤

calm forge
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pogu

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novelkey blacks sound so good

noble oak
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and the creams

calm forge
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yeah

noble oak
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what keyboard do you have?

calm forge
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im using a hyperx alloy fps

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with red

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switches

noble oak
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ah

stoic walrus
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a load of aios for threadripper are listed as compatible (like the Kraken Z73) but i don't think they have full coverage

calm forge
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im probs gonna get a ducky or a apex 7 tkl

noble oak
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i'd get a ducky

calm forge
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a load of aios for threadripper are listed as compatible (like the Kraken Z73) but i don't think they have full coverage
@stoic walrus hm

noble oak
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can customize a lot

calm forge
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i'd get a ducky
@noble oak alr

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yeah

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plus lunar new year keycaps

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pog

noble oak
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i've got a razer huntsman elite

calm forge
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really

noble oak
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ngl, purple switches are the best i've felt so far

calm forge
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lmao

noble oak
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on a stock keyboard like this at least

calm forge
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apparently the hunstman mini has better linear switches than the te

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they said they revamped it or something

noble oak
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ya

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so there's like no rattle

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there's a tiny bit on mine

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and i've had mine since release of the keyboard lol

calm forge
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lol

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welp

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i got school

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so

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cya

crimson scroll
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Custom keyboards are like building your own pc

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Can seem intimidating but really there's varying levels and it can be super easy

calm forge
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yeah

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easiest part is probably the welding

crimson scroll
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I recommend people try it if they have the time and money

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There's no welding

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You're not literally melting two separate metals together, it's just soldering, and there are hot swap boards that require no soldering

calm forge
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lmao

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putting in the switches gonna kill my fingers

calm forge
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@tall cove

tall cove
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i see

calm forge
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hes been asking about this for like

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3 days

noble oak
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na

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2

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retshot

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ye?

tall cove
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im reading

noble oak
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or???????

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ok

calm forge
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im probs gonna get another pair of crucial ballistix 3200mhz

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so i can get 32 gigs

tall cove
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you would use that just as a streaming pc?

calm forge
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ret

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help

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get a 2tb ssd

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or more rma

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ram

tall cove
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what amount of storage do you have rn and how much of it is used

noble oak
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no

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retshot

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as main gaming pc

tall cove
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game and stream?

calm forge
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what amount of storage do you have rn and how much of it is used
@tall cove i have

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about

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i have

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1tb

noble oak
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ye

calm forge
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half of it is being used

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so

tall cove
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id say if you dont have anything other than that 1tb id say do that, that memory is high speed

calm forge
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alr

tall cove
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and kaleb honestly, when the 3070 is available, it will kind amake some of that money wasted imo

calm forge
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yeah

noble oak
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o

calm forge
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just get the starter pc and upgrade it with a 3070

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and then sell the gpu that comes with it

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and spend that money on more upgrades

tall cove
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most of what youd be paying for is labor and 20 series

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and they wont adjust that price

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also their pictures and specs list dont line up

calm forge
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YEAH

tall cove
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the mobo is a msi in the pictures yet they say its a gigabyte b450

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all of it on a 600w psu which sounds kinda sus

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yeah no i dont trust that imma be real

noble oak
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But

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  1. I don’t wanna build my self
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  1. I don’t want the latest and the greatest
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  1. I don’t like the starter
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@tall cove

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@calm forge

tall cove
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Im not saying that you cant get it man, im just saying that it might be a weird time in the pricing and the specs

noble oak
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Ye

tall cove
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if you want it, get it

noble oak
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So it’s bad?

tall cove
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i am some random on the internet you dont have to listen to me

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i didnt say that either its just i personally dont like that their parts dont match the pictures

calm forge
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^

crimson scroll
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i think the bld is not a good value

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for the person with the time and patience to build themselves

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if you must get a prebuilt, i would look at microcenter if that's an option

noble oak
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I don’t have time and patience

crimson scroll
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if you're going to go with the bld, make sure you familiarize yourself with its issues

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and how to resolve them

noble oak
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And I kinda want nzxt cuz this pc run fort 240fps all low

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And 160fps with all epic graphics

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And good with Roblox Minecraft fall guys

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Among us

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And all other games I play

calm forge
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among us isnt an intensive game

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and fps doesnt really matter on it

noble oak
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dude

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if you aren't running 400 frames in among us

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you're gonna lose

calm forge
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nono

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all you need

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is rgb

noble oak
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oh

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fair enough

calm forge
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smh

naive dagger
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ha

dim sable
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P400A DRBG vs 500DX?

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Stock

static pecan
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@dim sable

dim sable
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I’ll watch, can you summarise? Xd

static pecan
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There's charts in their that show temps compared to a bunch of cases I just didn't want to find them and screenshot lmao

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Basically, they're within like 2 degrees of each other if I remember correctly

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Basically just comes down to feature set and aesthetics

dim sable
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Ooh I see

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P400A

static pecan
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Personally I'm going with the 500DX for my new build at the end of the year

unborn kiln
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💪

crimson scroll
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apparently p400a uses some old tooling and is not the nicest to work in

devout wolf
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yeah same for the metallic gear neo air

merry spire
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P400a drgb is a excellent case

crimson scroll
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i have recommended it a lot and still will, but it still has its faults

calm forge
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you dont really need any fans

merry spire
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yes you do

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at least 2

crimson scroll
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no fans...at all?

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in a non-open air case?

calm forge
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yes

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yes you do
@merry spire no you dont

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bitwit managed to use his pc under load

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with no afns

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fans

merry spire
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that was a test

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if you want your pc to last a while you need fans

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he was just testing a theory he didnt actually mean "oh just save money by risking ur systems lifespan"

calm forge
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nono

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RISK IT

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B)

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burn it

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burn it

unborn kiln
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apparently p400a uses some old tooling and is not the nicest to work in
@crimson scroll I loved building in that case. Doing a second PC with it soon

crimson scroll
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good to hear!

crimson scroll
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and regarding the fan shit, don't say stuff like that. it's not helpful and it's going to potentially mislead people

calm forge
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guys use fans

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they cool you down

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wait

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what happens

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if i tape my pc to an ac unit

crimson scroll
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well, use your brain

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which side are you taping it to

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are you taping the back of your pc to the intake of the ac? the side panel to the exhaust? the top to the side of the ac?

calm forge
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side panel

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easy dubs

devout wolf
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bro what keeb is htis
@calm forge looks like a steelseries g6v2

calm forge
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@calm forge looks like a steelseries g6v2
@devout wolf o ok ty

calm forge
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or just your gigabit internet

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yknow

pulsar fossil
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:D

calm forge
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pls

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i beg

devout wolf
mellow ferry
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@calm forge what program shows that

calm forge
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speedtest by ookla

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@calm forge what program shows that
@mellow ferry theres an app on the windows store and a website

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either one works fine

mellow ferry
devout wolf
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i require too

unborn kiln
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Rafee wins that lol 0.5 down

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Damn....

crimson scroll
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speedtest, yuck

calm forge
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i think i need it more
@mellow ferry DAMN

cedar herald
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0 PING

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wtf

solemn sail
solemn sail
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speedtest, yuck
@crimson scroll mans really said yuck to those results

quaint moat
crimson scroll
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because speedtest isn't accurate

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isps direct bandwidth for them

worthy silo
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unfortunately true

crimson scroll
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@solemn sail p400a, p500a, nr600, td500, 500dx, lancool II mesh, metallic neo air, bitfenix nova mesh are all budgetish options around 80-110

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and that's why i use fast.com, isps are less likely to provide bandwidth for netflix

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also @solemn sail i would not pay 370 for a 2060

solemn sail
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The prices are mad high rn

crimson scroll
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the 3xxx series is out though

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you can get a used 1080ti for less than 350

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or a 5700xt for around 380

noble oak
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1080ti>5700xt

static pecan
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lmao

crimson scroll
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yes

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but that's a used price vs new

calm forge
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pog?

devout wolf
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do you know what it is lol

crimson scroll
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before my time but didn't you overclock those by using physical jumpers on the board

devout wolf
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i think so

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it's way older than me too

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no idea how these survived on 5v

crimson scroll
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well

calm forge
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OK

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im selling my 1660ti

crimson scroll
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as the fabs get smaller, they can handle less voltage

calm forge
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and getting a 1080ti

crimson scroll
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it's why zen2 safe voltage is less than zen+ is less than zen1

calm forge
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yup

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im selling my 1660ti

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and getting a 1080ti

crimson scroll
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nice

devout wolf
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yeah but older cpus has shorter lifespans cause they used 3.3v-5v

calm forge
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bro 1080tis are so cheap on ebay

crimson scroll
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i don't trust ebay tbh

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at least they favor the buyer a lot

calm forge
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yeah

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bro

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i found a founders edition 1080i for

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like

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285

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theres also returns

crimson scroll
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I bought mine off r/hardwareswap for 315, and it came with the accelero 3

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you can do better than a founders edition imo

calm forge
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eh

rustic spoke
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i found a founders edition 1080i for
founders edition

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blower cards are hot af

pulsar fossil
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hot af in a good way or a temp way? :P

royal patrol
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I think he means temp

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I dont trust ebay either ngl

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when I build my first pc a few years ago I got all my peripherals on there for cheap but they were damaged

pulsar fossil
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I think so too was just being silly :)

unborn kiln
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when I build my first pc a few years ago I got all my peripherals on there for cheap but they were damaged
@royal patrol Did you file for refund?

royal patrol
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@royal patrol Did you file for refund?
@unborn kiln I tried but I didnt read where he said no refunds

crimson scroll
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that doesn't hold

unborn kiln
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Oh thats a red flag always

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But ebay covers it still
I am sure

crimson scroll
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try typing in one line

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also for future reference, you can cut off everything after the ? in the url, that's just for tracking purposes

calm forge
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i only cut off links for other websites

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lmao

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because i actually know where to cut it

crimson scroll
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it's good that it's returnable though

calm forge
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yeah

quaint moat
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bruh i got a regular 1050 😭

calm forge
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lmao

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rip

quaint moat
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gonna get 3080 next month tho

calm forge
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pog

lilac vector
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Anyone looking for a 3080 now?

molten basalt
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no not really

calm forge
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idk

clever escarp
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yeah im waiting on mines from adorama

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so no not right now. they sa8id 10/31

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s

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spooky szn

calm forge
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adorama is a trustworthy sight?

crimson scroll
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yes

clever escarp
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site yes

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I preordered on the 17th of September

rustic spoke
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Anyone looking for a 3080 now?
imma just wait for the even newer rtx 30 series cards

clever escarp
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I got really scared today because they sent me an email and it was just sayintg its still out of stock

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lol dante i dont think ill really care about 20gb

rustic spoke
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Idc about vram

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As long as its 8 or more

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I just want it to be faster

clever escarp
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what do you ahve now?

rustic spoke
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And also i wanna wait for ddr5 rams

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Rn I have a 5700xt

clever escarp
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oof

rustic spoke
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Switched from 2070 super

clever escarp
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i thought about sellinmg my gtx 1070ti but nah

rustic spoke
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Its still worth something

clever escarp
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a dollar now\

rustic spoke
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I wanna sell my gpu because here in hungary used ones like mine, 1 year old cards with extended warranty go for like 350+

clever escarp
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i could get maybe max 89$ dollar

rustic spoke
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Also depends on the condition

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I usually sell my outdated hardware to my friends

clever escarp
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dang you selling them handmedowns unless they have like gt 710s

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its in mint dusty condition never overclocked

rustic spoke
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They have like 1030s 😂

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A used 1070ti would still go for 200 imo

clever escarp
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im disapointed in msi motherboards

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they arent as colorful as gigabytes offering this year

rustic spoke
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Im disappointed in gigabyte/aorus mobos

clever escarp
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its all shades of edge

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and when they add color its just so ugly

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look at the godlike

crimson scroll
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can't see your motherboard if you have no tempered glass

clever escarp
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I DO

rustic spoke
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Would stay away from gigabyte/aorus, i made the wrong decision of buying an expensive aorus mobo, software is garbage

clever escarp
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wdym?

rustic spoke
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The lights arent in sync, thats my biggest problem

clever escarp
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i currently have a x570 elite wifi

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lights are golden

rustic spoke
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It cant do all of the fancy stuff an asus could

clever escarp
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when i say golden i meant in sync and good colo choice

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Asus is my last choice on any list......

rustic spoke
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Mine isnt white at all

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1 out of 5 rgb zones is white

crimson scroll
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y'all going off of rgb and aesthetics only?

rustic spoke
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Others are like yellow ish white

clever escarp
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everything

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well some things dont make nearly as much a difference despite what people say or what you read

crimson scroll
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i just think it's a bad idea to list asus as last all the time

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for example, their x570 tuf is considered one of the best in its price segment

clever escarp
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when i got my board and cpu on launch day there is a quick amount of diminishing returns that you'll only notice if your paying extremely good attention all the time everytime

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who knows

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is it really?

crimson scroll
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sure, but there's still things like usb headers, fan headers, vrm quality, bios flashback, etc.

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some people won't care about all that

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but they do distinguish boards

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along with price

clever escarp
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i see.

devout wolf
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gigabyte rgb fusion does suck

clever escarp
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so who should i respect then?

crimson scroll
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if rgb is your thing then....kinda sucks because most of them are all bad

devout wolf
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don't go with brands

crimson scroll
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don't respect a brand

clever escarp
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can't confirm

devout wolf
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brands don't matter

crimson scroll
#

go by individual boards

#

for example, asrock has some great b550 boards and terrible z490 boards

clever escarp
#

so if brands dont matte rwhy do we have them not trying to antagonize just understand

crimson scroll
#

uh

#

what do you mean why do we have them

devout wolf
#

?

clever escarp
#

oh

crimson scroll
#

because...capitalism?

#

lmfao

clever escarp
#

just a case by case

devout wolf
#

so here's the thing

clever escarp
#

basis

#

the thing?

devout wolf
#

it's not like asus manufactures their socket and vrm and slots and controllers etc

crimson scroll
#

a company may decide to cut corners to save money

#

ergo, making a bad board

#

and then the next generation they may make a good board to get back into consumers good favors

#

and to outcompete their competitors

#

at the end of the day, it's all about the bottom line. that's why brands exist

devout wolf
#

best example for brands don't matter is for psus and ssds

#

evga has good psus, and also the N1 and W1

#

Corsair has great multirail PSUs, and then the Orange VS and Green CX

crimson scroll
#

psus are also one of the best examples of companies not making their own products

devout wolf
#

yup

#

same for ssds

#

except for wd and samsung

crimson scroll
#

technically almost everything is but it's the least obvious

clever escarp
#

okay

#

i suppose i could like asus or do better and not have loyalty. its so hard everytime i heard that name i skipped whether it was a video or something

crimson scroll
#

that's exactly what other brands want you to do

#

good marketing will get you to dismiss other competitors products

clever escarp
#

so I've been had?

#

xD

crimson scroll
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

just do your research from reputable sources before buying stuff

clever escarp
#

i mean GN is prery reputable

crimson scroll
#

yeah

devout wolf
#

also spreadsheets are useful

clever escarp
#

of course id not get it from him

#

spreadsheets?

crimson scroll
#

not get what from "him"

#

yeah, spreadsheets

devout wolf
crimson scroll
devout wolf
#

ssd one is super helpful

#

there is a filter named 'Phison S11 Controllers'

#

those are the ones to avoid

#

since they have the suicidal Phison S11 controller

clever escarp
#

so9 basically you have to wait until someone else to buy it and get info to profit?

crimson scroll
#

yes

devout wolf
#

exactly

crimson scroll
#

this is why we always recommend to wait for reviews and benchmarks

devout wolf
#

well youtubers don't have to always buy it

clever escarp
#

thats literally terrible

devout wolf
#

they get review samples

crimson scroll
#

and why tomshardware was mocked for their piece on the 2080ti to "just buy it"

#

how is that terrible

#

would you buy a car with no reviews

clever escarp
#

yeah I remember that

devout wolf
#

the 3080 benchmarks for example

clever escarp
#

that was so bad of them

devout wolf
#

youtubers were sent samples in advance

crimson scroll
#

it's literally why consumerreports exists

devout wolf
#

and the videos came out a whole day before the release

clever escarp
#

terific

#

terrific*

crimson scroll
#

oh ok

devout wolf
#

best way to not buy a gpu and realize they forgot to tighten the cooler or something

#

oh wait

#

that already happened GWjiangoOmegaLUL

crimson scroll
#

if you're super rich, then be part of the first wave

#

you can afford it if they screw up anyways

devout wolf
#

basically beta testing

clever escarp
#

lol

crimson scroll
#

this is why i buy new

#

only when stuff is on the end of its cycle

#

also speaking of GN, i got a poster and shirt from their store

clever escarp
#

after its been perfected and tested

crimson scroll
#

gotta support them

devout wolf
#

oh pog

#

i kinda want their modmat

#

some of the stuff is kinda useful

crimson scroll
#

me too but it's so expensive

clever escarp
#

i support them through my yt red membership

#

that extra 5 cents helps. ive seen EVERY video of theres. of course sliding to the end if asus was there

crimson scroll
#

you should not do that lol, what if they recommend something by asus

clever escarp
#

tragic i cared for everyone except them before. i suppose ill actually listen nowadays. thanks raichu and rafee

crimson scroll
#

👍

clever escarp
#

oaky so we are in the steelseries server

devout wolf
#

indeed

clever escarp
#

i recently broke my arctis pros and ive found out that its really bummed me out

#

should i simp again

crimson scroll
#

no

clever escarp
#

or do you guys have a headset recommendation

crimson scroll
#

well, my recommendation is get a good set of headphones and standalone mic

clever escarp
#

i got my full money back at microcenter so its no issue but it was so ool to use for a yera

crimson scroll
#

unless you really need a headset for some reason

clever escarp
#

everyone says that problem is I dont think i can actually hear a meaningful difference in audio quality

crimson scroll
#

arctis pros are what, 300?

clever escarp
#

i tried the dt990 and 770s and the pros and some hd600 and to be 100% i couldnt tell

crimson scroll
#

you can get a set of cans that won't require a dedicated amp to drive, something like hd698 or hd6xx, for 150-220, plus a mic for 30-50

clever escarp
#

a single difference even though the 990s and the 600 are open bacik

crimson scroll
#

and then you can upgrade later with an amp, dac, etc. if you want

clever escarp
#

or? i might confuse the numbers

devout wolf
#

how are audio technica ATH-M50Xs?

crimson scroll
#

meh

#

m40x>m50x imo, more neutral

clever escarp
#

why is neutrality good?

devout wolf
#

oh

crimson scroll
#

i have the m40x and the hifiman he-4xx, they do different things

clever escarp
#

the pro+gamedac was exactly 249.95

crimson scroll
#

it's not necessarily good, but m40x is what we call "reference' headphones

clever escarp
#

so i have 249.95 to spend at microcenter with no clue

crimson scroll
#

as in, what was recorded is what you should hear exactly

#

whereas something like the m50x are more bassy

#

every set of headphones will color the sound you hear

#

and people have different preferences for what kind of color they like

devout wolf
#

ah i see

crimson scroll
#

you can also EQ headphones to make them sound more like what you want them to sound like

devout wolf
#

i like headphones on the bassier side

crimson scroll
#

so in that regard the m40x are cheaper and can be tuned to be similar to the m50x

clever escarp
#

yeah ive gotten addicted to witch house chillstep dnb piano and classical music

calm forge
#

yeah

crimson scroll
#

a lot of the audiophile world is snake oil

calm forge
#

m50x is just like shinier

#

ig

clever escarp
#

ive heard your brain will filter out alot of the auido stuff

#

yeah snake oil

calm forge
#

im gonna get the at 2020 soon

clever escarp
#

they say you can spend 3000 and not hear a lick of a difference

crimson scroll
#

this is true

calm forge
#

what about that like

#

2000 headset thing

#

that linus tried

crimson scroll
#

you mean 20k?

#

the orpheus?

calm forge
#

o

devout wolf
#

placebo effect type beat

calm forge
#

yeah

devout wolf
#

dyno'd

clever escarp
#

he waas toild its good so it mustve been

crimson scroll
#

it's closer to 60k now i think

devout wolf
#

ah yes

#

the youtuber review phenomenon

crimson scroll
#

a lot of companies have halo products

clever escarp
#

he had speakers on hius head

crimson scroll
#

the orpheus is one, the 3090 serves the same purpose

clever escarp
#

they stopped being HEAD phones long ago

devout wolf
#

dt990 and sm7b

clever escarp
#

i really am pondering wheter or not i should get the xiaomi 10t Pro or the Pixel 5

devout wolf
#

cookie cutter af

crimson scroll
#

the reddit audiophile starter pack is a schitt stack and hd6xx from massdrop

clever escarp
#

i have the pixel 3xl right

calm forge
#

sm7b is so over price

#

sm57 is way better

#

rn im currently

devout wolf
#

kinda wanna try out sony xb950

calm forge
#

deciding

#

sm57 or at 2020

clever escarp
#

so i guess i should get these dt 990 pros then?

crimson scroll
#

eh

calm forge
#

eh

clever escarp
crimson scroll
#

you should figure out what sound signature you like

clever escarp
#

tragic

#

kk

#

sorry to bother but how will you know??

crimson scroll
#

also that's a 250 ohm model

#

resistance isn't everything, sensitivity is technically more important, but it may not sounnd good without an amp or unless your motherboard has good audio

#

how you know is you try a bunch and see which one you like the most

clever escarp
#

thats helpful but i suppose you should listen to your favorite song?

crimson scroll
#

sure

devout wolf
#

oh god

#

booted up windows vm

clever escarp
#

i appreciate the help. its not much but its honEST work

devout wolf
#

and cortana starts talking

#

ptsd

crimson scroll
#

no prob

clever escarp
#

of course im still as stuck as before i had that conversation

#

but maybe ill cross that boder when i get tehre

#

there*

crimson scroll
#

deepcool cl500 has a built in gpu sag bracket....now that's a nice niche feature

devout wolf
#

oh wow, that's really nice

#

i need to mitigate my gpu sag

#

2kg gpu in a cheapo case

crimson scroll
#

yeah, me too...

#

only 2x120mm top fan mounts though

#

and some weird design choices imo

noble oak
#

Anyone wanna answer a stupid question?

median rivet
#

Fire away, Jesus

noble oak
#

Bet

devout wolf
noble oak
#

Amd cpu are not for streaming come at me

devout wolf
#

why not

#

and which cpu are we talking about

#

amd cpu is such a broad term

#

are we talking about amd's 386 cpu? or their threadripper?

noble oak
#

I’m talking all of them lol

#

Yay you answered it

devout wolf
#

okay so

#

an am386 can't stream

#

for obvious reasons

#

it's a 132-pin cpu from 1991

#

a 3700x can stream though, hell even a 3600

#

depends on circumstances

#

streaming a game? is the game cpu intensive?

crimson scroll
#

that...wasn't even a question

devout wolf
#

yo wanna see fanboyism in one picture

#

ah yes, lets compare a consumer cpu to god knows what the hell that chip is

#

lets just disregard the fact that the i5-7600 ever existed

crimson scroll
#

why does that exist

upper linden
#

2600x is cheap and better then both of those

crimson scroll
#

it's a hedt dual core processor

#

lmfao

devout wolf
#

my question exactly

crimson scroll
#

is it just for the pcie lanes?

devout wolf
#

2600x is cheap and better then both of those
@upper linden talking about 2017 prices

#

possible

upper linden
#

Ohhhhhhh

#

Cuz currently 2600x like 160

crimson scroll
#

yeah why are you talking about the 2600x

devout wolf
#

but this comparison is obviously very handpicked

crimson scroll
#

the 3600 exists

devout wolf
#

the i5-7600 is a more fair comparison

#

less cores, more gaming perf

upper linden
#

2600x is the same thing but cheaper rn

crimson scroll
#

also i like how one is $220 and the other is $219.99

devout wolf
#

and both released at around $220

#

yeah lmao

crimson scroll
#

no, 2600x is not the same thing as the 1600

#

the 1600AF is similar to the 2600

upper linden
#

I’m talking about a 3600

crimson scroll
#

the 2600x is not similar to a 3600

upper linden
#

Yeah it is

devout wolf
#

older archecture

crimson scroll
#

it's really not

devout wolf
#

more power draw

crimson scroll
#

a 2600x is about equivalent to a 3600

#

is so wrong

#

a 2600x is about equivalent to a 2600

#

you can OC and get the same perf

#

and a 2600 and 3600 are not the same

#

far from it

#

therefore a 2600x and a 3600 are also very different

devout wolf
#

14nm vs 7nm, 142w ppt? vs 88w ppt

crimson scroll
#

if you wanted to talk about the 1600 AF vs the 2600, then you'd have a point

upper linden
#

I just saw 3600 is slight stronger then 2600x

devout wolf
#

please don't tell me userbenchmark

upper linden
#

No

devout wolf
#

phew

upper linden
#

I just it up and saw it’s a bit stronger

#

Looked

#

I only thought they where similar because they come base clocked at the same speed

devout wolf
#

clock speeds do not matter at all when you compare two different cpus

#

especially cpus from two different architectures

#

3600 has way better IPC

#

it can do more stuff per clock than the 2600x

crimson scroll
#

quite a bit better

devout wolf
#

oh

#

the 1700 still holds up well

crimson scroll
#

for 7zip

devout wolf
#

oh yeah

#

just looked at the other ones lmao

crimson scroll
#

it's below the 1600 OC in some games

devout wolf
#

sheesh

devout wolf
#

heh

#

my friend decided if he can't beat the bots, he'd join em

#

so he set up a bot to snipe a 3080

#

and yikes, $1600 for a 3080

static pecan
#

Bruh lmao

crimson scroll
#

people have built bots to bid like $30k on new cards on ebay

#

just so no one gets sharked

static pecan
#

The dude is a literal scalper but thinks he's somehow helping someone by selling a $700 card for a $900 premium lmao

#

Also ya the people that have made the bots to combat the scalpers are my heroes

devout wolf
#

Yeah

#

They made it super risky for the scalpers

#

Now they have a stock of gpus they can’t sell or use and are out a few thousand bucks

static pecan
#

It's what they deserve for being the scum of the earth

gilded frost
#

A Ryzen 9 would rip all of those

crimson scroll
#

?

unborn kiln
#

A Ryzen 9 would rip all of those
@gilded frost You missed the point

winged topaz
#

Hard drive just broke for no reason

devout wolf
#

F

wicked river
#

oh dear

static pecan
#

In other words it fulfilled it's purpose as a hard drive, to break

#

Seriously though, I've had a few break down before, it's not fun

honest dagger
#

I don't think that the Donsta guy realized that you were talking about value based CPUs

devout wolf
#

i don't even know which conversation he was referring to tbh

#

the weird i3 vs 1600?

#

probably

idle bridge
#

bruh

#

My pc can't even run 60 fps 1080p in minecraft

#

Need suggestions

#

budget is like uhh

#

1000-1200 dollars

#

but I can go a bit over

devout wolf
#

if you can, wait for rtx 3060 or rdna2 and 5th gen ryzen

pulsar fossil
#

Turn off ray tracing? kappa

#

:P

idle bridge
#

Bro

devout wolf
idle bridge
#

My gpu legit radeon r7 m360

#

one of the shitties gpu every known to man

pulsar fossil
#

F

devout wolf
#

my gpu used to be atom integrated graphics before i started saving to upgrade GWaobloChildPepeShrug

idle bridge
#

and I am running a I5-(insert very old gen)U

#

current specs:
CPU: I5-6200U 2.30 GHz
Graphics: Radeon R7 M360
Ram: 12 gb DDR3
Harddrive: ST9500325AS

devout wolf
#

6th gen isn't that old

idle bridge
#

eh

#

me computer from like 2017

#

hmmm

#

as of now my harddrive seems to be the major bottle neck

#

but I am probs gonna do a full overhaul

#

aside from monitor and accessories

devout wolf
#

yeah

#

my current pc is almost about as old as your laptop

#

and i built it less than a year ago GWjiangoOmegaLUL

crimson scroll
#

in terms of loading stuff sure, your hard drive will be the bottleneck

#

in terms of frames, nope

devout wolf
#

yeah unless you're running out of ram and paging

#

but with 12gb, unlikely on minecraft

oblique nova
#

Does anybody know how good the new 30 series is because I have been seeing some mixed reviews

merry dew
#

depends on what card

#

30 series overall is flipping awesome

devout wolf
#

meh

#

3070 is nice

#

but the ti cards are worth the wait

untold fern
#

3070 isn't even out yet

#

Seems like too much of a hassle to get a 3080 imo, at least right now

crimson scroll
devout wolf
#

feelsbad

#

they crippled the 200mm fans

#

still a nice case otherwise, especially for the price

crimson scroll
#

yeah, chart topping in some noise normalized instances

#

can't wait for its price to go up 20 dollars now that gn's reviewed it

devout wolf
#

so true

oblique nova
#

I am thinking about getting a 3070

crimson scroll
#

nice

fluid pond
#

imma get a 3070

#

dont want to risk amd driver issues cause of last year

devout wolf
#

amd drivers are fine

#

20.4.2 is stable

#

and nvidia is the one having issues rn GWaobloChildPepeShrug

#

tbh just wait to see if they still have driver issues

fluid pond
#

building my first pc too lol decided for a steelseries keyboard

#

idk i feel like amd launch wil be worse

devout wolf
#

eh don't want to speculate

#

anything can happen

#

and rdna2 is tsmc 7nm, not gonna have super low yields like samsung 8nm

fluid pond
#

wym?

static pecan
#

Praying that AMD has something that'll compete with the 3070 because that's the performance level and price point I'm looking at

#

Although based on the leaks and such I don't think I'll have to worry too much

fluid pond
#

whys that?

#

i havent seen many leaks

gilded frost
#

If you want a good budget case. The montech X1 White MESH Built in static fans is perfect. $55

static pecan
#

The entire product stack for RDNA2 with all the specs got leaked in a Newegg email. On paper the GPUs are going to be competitive

fluid pond
#

really whered you see that?

crimson scroll
#

"perfect"

#

and it's gotta be white?

static pecan
fluid pond
#

oh ok ill have to watch

#

am i dumb or will the 6900xt be the equivalent naming wise as the 5700xt or just wait till the end of the month

noble oak
#

Ok guys if I build my pc and I’m planning to get the Arctis 3 Bluetooth wireless headphones uhh do I get a Bluetooth usb transmitter? Ping me

fluid pond
#

@noble oak depends are you gonna get a mother board with bluetooth built in?
\

noble oak
#

Actually no

#

I think

static pecan
#

The 6900XT is rumored to be the 3090 competitor @fluid pond

noble oak
#

Afk for a bit

fluid pond
#

oh ok

#

so therell mostlikely be a 5700xt priced gpu then

#

hopefully we can get reviews for them like the they are announced lmao

#

i doubt it though

crimson scroll
#

why wouldn't we get reviews for them

fluid pond
#

cause they get announced on 28th

#

29th 3070 is released

#

im saying reviews on 28th as well

#

i might just buy a 3070 and if the amd equivalent is better ill return and get the amd one

static pecan
#

It's highly unlikely launch day will be the same as announcement day so we probably won't see reviews till November

#

You're assuming you'll be able to even get a 3070 lol. I highly doubt Nvidia's "Oh we just want to have more cards available" BS. They most likely just want to take over the news cycle the day after the AMD announcement so no one talks about it while maybe having a few more cards than would have if they released on the original date but not by a substantial increase. I highly doubt shelves will be flooded with 3070s on the 29th

fluid pond
#

well i got 3 devices i can try to get one on

static pecan
#

Besides that, if they continue to not do anything about botters taking over their website all the 3070s will be gone anyway

fluid pond
#

i just dont know where to watch for the cards

static pecan
#

Your best bet is to just have the Nvidia store, Newegg, Amazon, and wherever else they'd be selling the cards open and just constantly checking until you can get one from somewhere if you're serious about trying to get one on the 29th

crimson scroll
#

several thoughts i have on this

#

it's easier to make 3070s than 3090s and 3080s, because you can use lower binned chips. The lower end cards are also always what makes more money, because more people buy them. I think the kind of people who are trying to buy 3080 and 3090s day 1 are not the same kind of people who want 3070s, and so there should be less entitlement going around

fluid pond
#

when will the release prices of the aib cards?

noble oak
#

@noble oak depends are you gonna get a mother board with bluetooth built in?

@fluid pond Ight I’m back so can you continue helping me

fluid pond
#

i think they also have producing the cards all around the same time too so having 3070 come out later will let them have way more imo

#

ok

noble oak
#

I

#

K

fluid pond
#

@noble oak so what do you need help with

noble oak
#

Ok guys if I build my pc and I’m planning to get the Arctis 3 Bluetooth wireless headphones uhh do I get a Bluetooth usb transmitter? Ping me
@noble oak

#

That

static pecan
#

Yes you'll need to get a separate Bluetooth transmitter @noble oak

noble oak
#

Ah so it’s called a Bluetooth transmitter

#

Oh well thanks

static pecan
#

Transmitter, adapter, receiver, they're all pretty much the same thing, You can find USB ones for cheap

noble oak
#

Yea

#

I found an asus one for 20 bucks

#

Any walls bye

#

Anyways*

fluid pond
#

i mean a motherboard you choose might have it too @noble oak

#

the motherboard im getting has wifi and bluetooth

noble oak
#

I’ll check

#

So check for me

crimson scroll
#

"i'll check"-jk you check

#

permission denied on that list anyways

fluid pond
#

yeah permission denied

#

just look at the specs for the board it will say

static pecan
#

Why do something myself when I can get some random Discord person to do it for me?

crimson scroll
#

the thing is

#

if you don't know how the first time, that's fine, and we can explain how to do it

#

but this user specifically has come asking for things multiple times and i've explained how to find out

#

whether it's case and radiator/fan compatibility or what features a motherboard has

static pecan
#

Yeah I've noticed

fluid pond
#

Damn

#

Will watch dogs legion come free with 3070 y’all think?

#

Will amd give out a free game with the cpus?

crimson scroll
#

maybe

#

and probably

static pecan
#

I've literally never finished Watch Dogs 1 but have 2 as well lmao

#

And if Legion comes free with a part I get then it'll probably just stay in my library for another few years

fluid pond
#

oof

sleek kestrel
#

I found this old laptop, 32 bit os, and i cant find out how to fix it

#

Litirally no sound 😦

untold fern
#

Try to find the drivers for your motherboard

#

Maybe on the manufacturers website if you know the laptop model number

gilded frost
#

Computer Genius here. Have your thought of unmuting your computer yet?

pulsar fossil
#

The X means that Windows doesn't have an audio device for playback

#

So unmuting wouldn't help Mr. Computer Genius @gilded frost :p

devout wolf
#

I found this old laptop, 32 bit os, and i cant find out how to fix it
@sleek kestrel which laptop is it

#

go to devmgmt.msc and check for audio devices

gilded frost
#

Does that on my old 32 bit DELL Laptop. @pulsar fossil

#

I’m talking really old , i3 650? Or 350 I forgot lol

devout wolf
#

windows 10?

gilded frost
#

It ran 7 premium until it corrupted so me and another guy got our own partially OS on it. Its great for when the little children annoy you

devout wolf
#

so it wasn't windows 10

#

win10 doesn't show a red x if it's muted

gilded frost
#

Oh shoot, made a dumb mistake 😂.

lavish kraken
#

alanham took me name :(

#

kinda

#

can someone help me please!!!

crimson scroll
lavish kraken
#

what

#

no sausy

#

i need help with my mouse swithces

#

my mouse double lcicks

#

and when i search for mouse switches it only shows mouse

crimson scroll
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what mouse do you have

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https://ents.win/modding-services/ if you don't want to replace yourself

Gaming Mouse Switch Replacement (G Pro Wireless and all other mice) Looking for someone to replace your double clicking switches in your Logitech G Pro Wireless or other mouse? Don’t want to risk your mouse? Don’t have a soldering kit or experience? You’re in the right place! ...

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otherwise you can look into huano, omron, kailh mouse switches

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you'll likely need a soldering iron, solder wick or a solder pump, and maybe replacement mouse skates, among other things

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and there's a lot of youtube guides on how to replace mouse switches

devout wolf
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does it happen to be a corsair harpoon

crimson scroll
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they'll often have links to tell you where to go, alibaba/taobao etc

devout wolf
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and like 90% of mice use the same omron switches

crimson scroll
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also i'm pretty sure skeletonslayer didn't even read the first link i posted

devout wolf
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i love that link

static pecan
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That link is the best link

noble oak
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wait can i plug my ethernet port into this and not buy a wifi card?

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MSI Z490-A PRO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard
Product Name.

crimson scroll
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yes

lavish kraken
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no i have a logitech g903

noble oak
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ooh

lavish kraken
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and it double clicks so i wanna get the razer optical mouse switch

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but you have to buy a mouse to get it

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wich is not good cuz i already got a 150 dollar mouse that the switches dont even work right

crimson scroll
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why specifically the razer ones

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if it's under warranty replace the mouse or get a refund

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if it's not, you can do as I said and replace the switches yourself with some quality kailh or other switch, or get someone to do it for you

lavish kraken
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yes i wanna do it myself

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idk the razer ones are good

crimson scroll
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how do you know that

lavish kraken
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but never seen kalih thought they only make keyboard switches

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i mean youtube but they never really say the real result it says 0.2ms but i mean i just want some good switch tbh

lavish kraken
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yeah but i need the switches

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and i might have to get hyperglides because i gotta remove the things under the g903

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and its hard to put back on

crimson scroll
lavish kraken
crimson scroll
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you can do better though, just do your own research on what switches are going to last a long time

lavish kraken
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razer

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70 million clicks

crimson scroll
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okay

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have fun sourcing them

lavish kraken
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no

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but i gotta buy the moue t get the switches

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wich im not gonna do

crimson scroll
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then don't use them

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also there are alternative ways of getting switches

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r/mousemarket exists