do you have good or bad silicon
#💻-building-a-pc
mortal patrol
mortal patrol
try in steps of 0.1GHz, and see how it performs, run Aida64 or something to stress the CPU and monitor
calm forge
alr
mortal patrol
and maybe 0.5, and then 0.1 when instability comes around
mortal patrol
Start with putting the base clock at 4.3 then, see how it goes, and then go up in steps of 0.5
mortal patrol
Idk about voltages, but I heard you shouldn't overvolt too much as it can degrade the CPU fast
crimson scroll
1.2 roughly is safe for zen2
it depends on your silicon, 1.25 etc can be safe
but 1.35 will degrade
it's because we're getting smaller processes
zen 1 was safe on 1.425
calm forge
how do you check your sillicon lottery
crimson scroll
zen+ safe on 1.38
you just see how far you can clock it and at what voltage
and see how that compares to the rest of the benched chips
crimson scroll
it's also important to note different motherboards report different voltages
calm forge
im using the asrock b450 gaming k4
crimson scroll
the actual voltage might be 1.4 but the motherboard reports 1.3 to make it seem like the motherboard is really good
crimson scroll
gamersnexus has a video on this
calm forge
so just lower voltage by .5 and check for stability
yeah ik
i saw it
like 2 hours or something
didnt watch it tho
calm forge
um yeah
but if you wanna get a faster ssd
nvme drive
just wait for the
980 evo
and get the 500 gig one
it has faster read and write speeds
uhm
for the 3070
a 650w psu
hm
try getting a 700w psu
from a trusted manufacterer
like corsair
dim sable
Is 650w too little?
And
Is the 980 evo coming out soon?
And a lot better and same price?
mortal patrol
650W too little
Wait for next gen Ryzen, they look promising over Intel
plain hound
that PCI card?
@mortal patrol Idk what a PCI card is. But the things to the left is what im talking about
mortal patrol
oh
mortal patrol
I'd recommend around 850W when you OC
plain hound
And yes thats an Network card
mortal patrol
All I see in the image is the GPU, network card, expansion slots and Power Supply shroud
Drive cages are usually behind the backplate in the front side of the case
mortal patrol
Nah, for no OC it'll be fine
mortal patrol
Recommended PSU is something you can discard
dim sable
Lol
mortal patrol
Yeah, it's alright, though remember next Gen ryzen and gen 11 are coming soon
mortal patrol
PSU will be perfectly fine
Though it's efficiency I'm always on
it won't blow up, but your bills might be higher if you know what I'm on about
calm forge
yeah
im probs gonna sell my 3600
and get the next gen ryzen cpus
wait nah
imma just sell my 1660ti
when the newer gpus from amd come out
and just buy the rx 5700xt
bc prices will drop
hopefully
noble oak
i just got a steelseries headset (:
noble oak
very mooch
dim sable
@mortal patrol what do you mean?
noble oak
idk XD i just ordered a steelseries headset
calm forge
lmao
dim sable
Surely lower wattage means cheaper bills
calm forge
poggers tho
noble oak
ye
calm forge
Surely lower wattage means cheaper bills
@dim sable it also means less stability
and if youre getting a lower wattage psu
it means youre probs gonna have to upgrade it often
dim sable
I really don’t know if I should be changing my psu then
calm forge
yeah
but if youre planning to oc then go with a 750w
80+ bronze atleast
rn im using an evga supernova 650w psu 80+ gold
dim sable
Cpu gpu?
calm forge
what do you mean
dim sable
What cpu gpu
dim sable
And I’m not planning to oc just worried it’ll be pushing the limits of my psu csuse everyone is saying it might be
calm forge
1660ti ventus oc
dim sable
Oh
calm forge
so both components im able to oc
dim sable
Ah
calm forge
yeah
mortal patrol
lightshot
calm forge
this is me idling
mortal patrol
tap out of task manager, and then prinstcreen works (for me_
calm forge
there
thats me idling
8 tabs
discord
spotify
and like 5 other background apps
plain hound
dim sable
You sure?
calm forge
if you dont plan on doing anything special to it
yeah
@plain hound its not gonna actually be 1k
dim sable
I don’t
calm forge
alr then youll be fine
outer maple
its 1k for a 1660 and a i5
calm forge
lmao
outer maple
thats to lure the people in
calm forge
im cringing
outer maple
you?
outer maple
nice
calm forge
ey
ye
what are your pcs pecs
specs*
in bios it says 3200
but in task manager it says 2667
is this because im not running any intensive tasks so the ram speed lowers
i found the ps5
outer maple
huh
plain hound
ez dub
plain hound
40 dolllars
plain hound
Dis gud?
outer maple
how do i open that lmao
plain hound
No i have been doing homework for 4 hours and 30 min
calm forge
ctrl shift esc
calm forge
outer maple
thx
outer maple
my uptime is 6 days....
plain hound
You said to me if i was idling
calm forge
do you know what idling is
plain hound
Leaving your computer on?
calm forge
no
plain hound
Woops
outer maple
ye
calm forge
so you got like
plain hound
Oh i have stuff open
calm forge
half of it correct
pulsar fossil
So I just did a little experiment. Found a simple gaming pc at a big typical store. Then found the parts for building the exact same machine. You'd save about 40 EUR by building it yourself and that doesn't include a Windows license or a SD card reader or Wi-Fi
So yes a selfbuilt might be cheaper in some cases
pulsar fossil
That's a pretty sketchy one
calm forge
not really
outer maple
lol
pulsar fossil
Never heard of him
plain hound
Then it makes sese
outer maple
8282+
plain hound
sense*
calm forge
hes pretty well known
outer maple
ye
pulsar fossil
He should hire a graphic designer.. His YT cover image is pretty corny and "template-y" :P
calm forge
lmao
i think his promocode is
tc20
and so yeah
i just bought it off there
and ran a command using powershell
pulsar fossil
And I'm gonna guess there's enough jumpcuts to lose a pound or three
pulsar fossil
It's just a pun
pulsar fossil
Do you know what a jumpcut is?
pulsar fossil
It's when you have a cut in the video where you cut from the same thing to the same thing again
Ie a person talking
Like if you edit out a mistake
pulsar fossil
It's kinda gotten to the point where it's a style on YT
pulsar fossil
He just did a "zoom jump cut"
Which is not entirely a jump cut
But also still is a little bit
calm forge
eh
calm forge
lmao
pulsar fossil
I've seen a couple of minutes now and the quality is decent
outer maple
im actually running a RTX 5090 rn
pulsar fossil
He should work on his lighting game
calm forge
im actually running an rtx 2050ti rn
pulsar fossil
Like especially the main show is very flat
outer maple
rtx 5090 runs a good 3000 fps
calm forge
My 2080Ti runs allright I guess
@pulsar fossil gimme dat
pulsar fossil
You can buy it for a 1000 eur 
calm forge
outer maple
did you guys see the brand new 1050 ti super founders edition low profile? it gets a good 280 fps
calm forge
You can buy it for a 1000 eur :kappa:
@pulsar fossil ive seen people sell their 2080tis for 500
lmao
outer maple
lol
calm forge
now that ampere is coming
calm forge
cant wait to hear the fans
pulsar fossil
Just wish it had a little more oomph than a 2060
It's actually not bad
And it has a huuuge battery
99.9Whr
calm forge
wtf
pulsar fossil
I'm trying to come up with a concept for an external battery that would let you play games at full quality on the go
And if I convince them to make then you heard it here first :P
pulsar fossil
No
calm forge
lmao
pulsar fossil
A battery that emulates a charger
pulsar fossil
Because the internal battery can't deliver enough power for a full gaming experience
calm forge
i see you
outer maple
pulsar fossil
Do you know if the fans are broken?
pulsar fossil
Can you adjust the fans manually via software?
untold fern
Is it dirty? Maybe dust gunked up the bearings?
zinc root
after few mins
no, i cleaned it today
so its all good
cable is plugged in
can it be because my software is not up-to-date?
newer version is 2.9 but mine is 2.4
untold fern
wouldn't hurt to check drivers yeah
zinc root
then i need reboot
fallow briar
anyone get there hands on the 3080?
static pecan
Silly question, everyone knows 3080s don't actually exist
crimson scroll
nobody got "there" hands on one
static pecan
Also true
static pecan
Idk man it's some weird GPU that a bunch of tech YouTubers keep telling me exists even tho it actually doesn't
fierce plaza
weird
static pecan
ikr?
fierce plaza
everyone knows the 2660 is the best gpu
static pecan
Exactly
clever path
Good parts to replace parts in my pc?
crimson scroll
depends on your budget, use case, res/refresh rate, and if you're happy with your system or not
also you don't have a case or psu listed
crimson scroll
eclipse what
clever path
lemme check
clever path
?
crimson scroll
clever path
My parents haven't told me my budget yet ._.
and by res/refresh rate does that mean my monitors. Thats what im guessing you mean
crimson scroll
yes
crimson scroll
okay, keep going
crimson scroll
and your use case?
it's kind of frustrating having to prompt you to answer every question tbh
clever path
idk what you mean by "and your use case?"
crimson scroll
what are you using it for
clever path
what do you mean what do i use my case for
clever path
Gaming streaming and editing, sometimes school work
clever path
i have a core i5 6500 and and AMD RX 580
crimson scroll
so that list you posted is a mix of parts you have and want?
clever path
yes
crimson scroll
post your actual current pc
clever path
crimson scroll
if you're happy with your system, why upgrade
clever path
Its good for gaming but streaming it kinda is bad
crimson scroll
and you're pretty serious about streaming?
clever path
yeah i used to stream everyday when i was gamin on an xbox
crimson scroll
okay
well without your budget it's kinda hard to recommend stuff, but your list isn't great. the 2700x is an older cpu and you can do better, and also I wouldn't even recommend streaming off that. You can stream off nvenc or the amd equivalent for minimal performance hit
clever path
so look for a better cpu, sounds good
crimson scroll
it's really gonna depend on your budget though
and also you had a 2070s in the list
3xxx series is out
if you can find those parts for the right price it's not bad, but you need to know what you're looking for
fierce plaza
ryzen 7 3700x
crimson scroll
ehhhh
debateable
again, it doesn't really make that much sense to stream off your cpu if you use nvenc for example
fierce plaza
im just recommending the ryzen 7 3700x because its good for the price
crimson scroll
sure
beaten out by the 10600k in gaming though
so, depends on your use case
and in his, it may make more sense to pick up that, depending on his budget
fierce plaza
how much is the 10600k
nvm
the 3700x is actually older the 10600k is new and slightly better but also like $20 cheaper
static pecan
October 8th can't get here fast enough lol
crimson scroll
you need to take the cpu cooler into account
they should be roughly the same price but i haven't checked recently
fierce plaza
wdym
crimson scroll
the 10600k doesn't come with a cooler
fierce plaza
true
crimson scroll
and also cores isn't everything
crimson scroll
in certain workloads yes
fierce plaza
but you have to spend like 20-30 on a cooler
static pecan
In gaming the 10600K is superior simply because of core speed
crimson scroll
don't use userbenchmark
static pecan
Lmao userbench
crimson scroll
absolute shit
fierce plaza
ok
static pecan
Trash website
fierce plaza
first result on google lol
crimson scroll
which is a big issue
static pecan
Yep
crimson scroll
because people like you see it's the first thing and pull it up
static pecan
^
fierce plaza
im not very big into tech
static pecan
8350K gang!
fierce plaza
you just said that user benchmark sucks
crimson scroll
yes
static pecan
It was sarcasm
crimson scroll
and i put a link to a ridiculous comparison to prove my point
static pecan
UserBench is nothing but Intel bias
crimson scroll
i really must spell out everything
I am about to display sarcasm
the i3 is better than the threadripper
my sarcasm has ended
static pecan
Lol
fierce plaza
true, literally the "top" 50 cpus were all intels
actually top 30
but you get the idea
wow
what about versus.com?
the 2nd result on google
crimson scroll
just use gamersnexus
static pecan
^
crimson scroll
hardware unboxed is good too
static pecan
Basically the only truly independent benchmarker out there
crimson scroll
both are primarily on youtube
fierce plaza
ok
crimson scroll
the idea is to get independent testing with a clear methodology
and ideally testing across a wide range of use cases
crimson scroll
are you primarily gaming? occasionally you might want to render a video? then the 10600k is likely better. Are you more serious about productivity workloads, maybe you need to compile something for work, and you enjoy gaming as well? probably the 3700x
fierce plaza
intresting
fallow briar
The 3070 is gonna be the next best price performance graphics card
bold drum
you never know big navi may have a godo price
naive dagger
Hmm we’ll see
bold drum
rdna 2 is in the next gen consoles and thats a downsized version the stsandards of all new gpu is gonna be very high who knows it may be very close\
dusky crag
are titanium or super versions of the 30 series coming
untold fern
nvidia hasn't announced anything about that yet giga
calm forge
i dont think a 600 dollar pc can run fortnite at 140 fps
lmao
so itll eat through roblox and fall guys
and java
noble oak
y
noble oak
k thx
noble oak
that is low for a 1.2k dollar gpu
calm forge
yeah
because it has more assets and textures to load when youre in end game
@noble oak are you gonna be streaming or something
dusky crag
use low settings
calm forge
even with low settings
the 2080ti struggles
with a 600 dollar pc he'll get around 30-60fps end game
noble oak
how bout for 899
the entire pc build for 899
should i just get the nzxt starter plus
calm forge
uhm
nzxt is a good prebuilt company
so its up to preference
now
if youre considering nzxt
so if youre lazy and dont have the time to or dont want to
then just buy the nzxt starter plus
mortal patrol
Building it yourself is fun though xD
noble oak
How much FPS
On fortnite
On starter plus
@calm forge
Or fall guys
Or among us
Or watch dogs
Or Roblox
On the nzxt starter plus
naive dagger
Enough
noble oak
?
naive dagger
it makes enough
noble oak
o ok
crimson scroll
nzxt is a good prebuilt company
@calm forge lies
crimson scroll
It's really not
molten basalt
why not
crimson scroll
naive dagger
wym hz
molten basalt
yah
noble oak
What da refresh rate
naive dagger
like what monitor would you need?
noble oak
Ya
molten basalt
yah thats ur monitor
naive dagger
i mean id go with 144
noble oak
O ok
molten basalt
i have a 144 rn
naive dagger
its not exactly that simple
molten basalt
hold up im checking the sit
noble oak
Ok
molten basalt
101 fps
noble oak
O
molten basalt
if u would look
naive dagger
lol
noble oak
What about view epic everything else low and 3D resolution 100%
molten basalt
no
naive dagger
my guy do some research yourself
naive dagger
if you cant then how could we
noble oak
idk lmao
molten basalt
ikr finding how many fps is so hard
molten basalt
they renamed them last month
noble oak
bruh
molten basalt
noble oak
Which one do u have
molten basalt
pro
crimson scroll
Lol
devout wolf
funny how google can pull up a billion results in the fraction of a second but people still refuse to use it
molten basalt
ikr
calm forge
@calm forge lies
@crimson scroll it is
crimson scroll
It's not a good pre-built company
None of them are save for maybe microcenter and the enterprise one
tall cove
Saucy be living here
crimson scroll
Puget labs
calm forge
microcenter is brick and mortor
calm forge
powerspec
lmao
funny how google can pull up a billion results in the fraction of a second but people still refuse to use it
@devout wolf fr
crimson scroll
Why are you saying lmao to powerspec
devout wolf
isn't powerspec microcenter's in-house brand?
safe cradle
bruh did a guy seriously ask "how much fps in fortnite and how much hz"
calm forge
yes
calm forge
lmao
pulsar fossil
You don't have two display outputs?
pulsar fossil
Yes?
noble oak
Yes
noble oak
Nzxt starter pro
pulsar fossil
You can def plug in two monitors to that without using a dock
pulsar fossil
HDMI or DisplayPort
Can you upload a picture of the ports on the monitors and the back of the PC?
calm forge
is that even plugged in
noble oak
How much in here
calm forge
?
idk it doesnt specify the motherboard
nvm
found it
4 on the motherboard
one in the front of the case
and one usb c on the front of the case
there might be 5-6 but i dont have a clear picture
lmao
void pewter
@calm forge I have a NZXT case in black lol they're not uncommon
calm forge
hacks
static pecan
Actually an all-black NZXT case is pretty uncommon lol most of the cases you see from them are two-tone but I would def prefer the all black if I was using an NZXT case
calm forge
you literally have google im not gonna waste my time looking for nit picky stuff like that
im in the middle of a test
noble oak
O ok srry
calm forge
and
void pewter
and if you're not nice, you can be muted 🙂
@calm forge
You could've said "hey sorry I'm in the middle of a test, I'm not 100% sure you'd have to google that" instead you were a butt about it - so again, be nice.
static pecan
#product-ideas @azure spruce
azure spruce
static pecan
No worries lol
static pecan
If you have to take tests then what are you doing on Discord in the first place? Regardless, that's not an excuse for being rude to someone. You could have just as easily ignored the message or simply responded with a "You can find that info easier on Google" or something
void pewter
I handled it - moving on 🙂
merry dew
serene patio
can i have a pc suggestion
deep scroll
What kind?
crimson scroll
What's your budget and what do you want to do with the computer, and what country are you located in @serene patio
spiral epoch
hello, can I have a build suggestion? I currently have all steelseries peripherals secured, my first rig that I'm using right now: cpu ryzen 7 3700x, and my GPU is a bit low gtx 1650 which i definitely want to upgrade, my case is msi mag vampiric 010c
i want to have an all-white build, which as far as i know is quite hard to achieve... i'm almost certain i want to use a nzxt h510elite, i think i'll retain my CPU. i wanted to get an rtx 3080 but it's virtually impossible due to shortage of stock... should i just wait or go with a 2070 super?
crimson scroll
can you make a pcpp list of your current build, as well as your budget, and what you want to use it for?
spiral epoch
okay! thanks for ur quick response, i'll work on a pcpp list right now. budget is around $1500-$2000 and i went with a r7 3700x because it was mostly a workstation, but now i have time for gaming. so a bit of both.
crimson scroll
if you have specific tasks in mind, like premiere, blender, etc. that'd be great to know
dusty ivy
i'd say wait if you can until RTX 3080 shortages are in well supply. usually happens during a new graphics card launch like the RTX 20 series; shortages
galax geforce rtx 2080 Ti Hall of Fame Edition (if you can find one and they are very expensive) if you want to complete an all-white themed PC build
GALAX/KFA2
spiral epoch
here it is @crimson scroll https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mr2djp
crimson scroll
honestly apart from the gpu and case, that's a good system
instead of the h510 elite i would recommend an airflow case like the p500a, it also comes in white
spiral epoch
Phanteks is the brand, yes?
spiral epoch
any other case recommendation? i like the nzxt better aesthetically, but i didn't do enough research abt the airflow... i'm a beginner sorry
crimson scroll
you can also do the lian li o11 dynamic
spiral epoch
yeah i was scoping out tforce delta rgb in white
crimson scroll
it's significantly more expensive and targeted at watercooling
there's also crucial ballistix ram, it's simpler with no rgb and i'd pick that for the speed
spiral epoch
i wanted to do some watercooling, not sure if that adds to anything other than aesthetics. different sources say different things
spiral epoch
you can also do the lian li o11 dynamic
@crimson scroll wow i looked it up it looks so good
crimson scroll
what that means is it takes longer for it to reach a steady state temperature, so if you have shorter workloads, it won't really force your fans to spin faster
and watercooling can keep your temps lower under high sustained loads
a small liquid cooler will perform worse than a large tower cooler though
so it really all depends on what size of cooler you get
there's also the custom watercooling part but if you're a beginner you may not want to deal with all that
spiral epoch
there's also the custom watercooling part but if you're a beginner you may not want to deal with all that
@crimson scroll afraid not... i wouldn't know where to begin haha
crimson scroll
You could also consider splurging on a larger SSD and adding a hdd if you need the space
crimson scroll
the 970 evo and 970 evo pro are a bit overkill for consumer use, i would look at the sx8200 pro or hp ex950 if you need the speed for large video transfer or something like that. They're pretty comparable to the 970 evo and should be cheaper
spiral epoch
this comes in white! https://amzn.to/3j3GPmo
crimson scroll
$750 for that is...a big no no though
spiral epoch
may I ask why not? i was under the impression they came around that price
is it bc of the 30 series?
spiral epoch
afraid i only have less than a yr to actually play since i'm starting med school again
but for 750 you can technically get a 3080
@crimson scroll that's the dream but i dont think i have the time to wait
and this will probably sound stupid, but they won't come in white? 😅
crimson scroll
there probably will be some like the galax HOF, maybe zotac will launch one like their 2060s
but probably not for a while
if the aesthetics matter that much to you and you don't want to get used, it's...fine?
spiral epoch
yeah i know the aesthetics part is silly, but take that out of the equation and consider the time frame instead...
i start school next year, so i won't be able to use it that much after
crimson scroll
maybe get a used 2080s if you're only gonna use it seriously for a year
spiral epoch
okay!
crimson scroll
and luckily there are a few cases in white
spiral epoch
isn't there a thing where they paint their components in white?
dusty ivy
sapphire nitro+ 5700XT
dusty ivy
i think it's black/silver but with a white backplate. that sapphire nitro+ 5700XT but is priced really really good tbh.
spiral epoch
$489.00 on amazon
if u could compare it to 20 series, what would be its counterpart?
crimson scroll
around 2070s
dusty ivy
RTX 2080 (1080 Ti) frames wise from GPU benchmarks on youtube
2070 super maybe yeah too idk
$464.99 on newegg >> https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-100416nt-8gsr/p/N82E16814202351
spiral epoch
awesome, thank u
crimson scroll
i hate buying new lol
dusty ivy
welcome
spiral epoch
is nzxt really that bad?
crimson scroll
eh
their design philosophy is strictly anti mesh
and so the temps are not great. they can brute force some air by using negative pressure
dusty ivy
idk nzxt has nice limited edition cases once in a while
crimson scroll
but it's really not great
they make nice looking boxes that are closed off
and the issue is that components produce a lot of heat that has to go somewhere and that needs to be replaced by air from somewhere, otherwise everything just heats up a lot
dusty ivy
lian li PCO11 dynamic then maybe
crimson scroll
yeah, we talked about that one already. it's got weird airflow that isn't that ideal for pure air cooling since going around a turn reduces around ~30% of airflow, but it's got so much venting that it can compensate, plus it's true focus is watercooling
and subjectively it's nice looking
dusty ivy
watercooling true. then carbide 540 high air flo?
crimson scroll
maybe
dusty ivy
that case was used from an official steelseries streamer before so it does work good
crimson scroll
there's also the lian li lancool ii mesh, comes in white
at least, there's a white front mesh panel kit available
i will say that official streamers mean nothing
fl0m is sponsored by nzxt
ninja is sponsored by nzxt
stuff works fine but it's not necessarily the best for the situation
dusty ivy
eh it still means something heh uhh
spiral epoch
im not sure if this is the one
crimson scroll
yeah that's not the one, the good one has mesh in front
spiral epoch
that's the only one in white where i'm from haha it's mostly unheard of here
dusty ivy
oh lian li's newest one
crimson scroll
hmm okay
crimson scroll
the lancool 215 recently launched and it seems pretty good for the price, doesn't look like it comes in white though
dusty ivy
oh
crimson scroll
right now best options might be p500a and o11 dynamic
depending on availability to their region
spiral epoch
any experience with used graphics cards on amazon?
dusty ivy
SEA> south east asia?
spiral epoch
yes
crimson scroll
and since you're in SEA your luck on reddit is probably not gonna be great
dusty ivy
pchub then no right?
spiral epoch
they dont sell used cards afaik
dusty ivy
ohh
spiral epoch
well, i think i've got it narrowed down though! p500a and o11 dynamic for the case, and a used 20 series or go with 5700 xt...
i only need help with the cooling but i think that would depend on which case i use?
crimson scroll
well, you can do air or liquid cooling in either
crimson scroll
no prob, just ask if you have more questions
dusty ivy
for sure
um yeah cooling will depend on your internal airflow configuration and placement. (internal air flow) or air direction, intake and exhaust.. and design of ATX case. again hope it helps.
lusty palm
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K3hhzN is this a good build the case is the NZXT H1
unborn kiln
Don't buy a 20 series card now
lusty palm
ye im waiting for 3070
unborn kiln
You should put that in lol
lusty palm
when i search 3070 it doesnt come up in search results
lusty palm
okay did it
sturdy comet
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K3hhzN is this a good build the case is the NZXT H1
@lusty palm dont get LPX ram
the mobo isnt great either
overpriced as hell aswell
and is your psu good enough?
calm forge
pensive
crimson scroll
no, it's not good
noble oak
No, build it yourself
devout wolf
and is your psu good enough?
@sturdy comet the h1 includes a PSU and an AIO
shrewd fern
devout wolf
okay...
unborn kiln
@noble oak NZXT has some of the best prebuilts on the market but to be honest, as I am sure you have been told countless times, building a PC is and forever will be the best option for anyone
This pre built is especially pretty poor price to performance
crimson scroll
🤔
serene patio
@crimson scroll my budget is 6000 country usa ma ?
i have the Logitech G402 and im a lefty lol
crimson scroll
OK and what are you looking to do with the pc? 6k is a lot of money and probably way more than you need
serene patio
you know MEGA desk thats what im trying to do
crimson scroll
Also I sympathize, I am also left handed. Hard to find good mice
serene patio
it is
crimson scroll
I'll probably make a list for you later tonight but basically you can get whatever consumer parts you want with that budget
Multiple 1440p 144hz monitors, 2tb+ nvme ssd, watercooling, rgb or not, a 3090
serene patio
what sholud i get for a atx motherbord
crimson scroll
Are you just gaming?
serene patio
nope school
serene patio
docs
crimson scroll
Simulations?
serene patio
yes
crimson scroll
Anything can run word and Google docs
serene patio
coding
crimson scroll
That's a non issue
Okay, any compiling
the thing is, if you're primarily gaming and the stuff you need to do for school isn't intensive, then we'll pick a processor more suited for gaming
serene patio
should i get the asus rog strix b550 or the Z490
i just looked and was like danmm nice motherbord
crimson scroll
Those are for different cpu types
crimson scroll
Watching videos and doing research
vestal bluff
I'm looking at building a PC for gaming, but I would also be using it for accounting work. I was planning on getting a ryzen 3600, 16gb of ram, and an rtx 3070 (hopefully). I'm not really concerned about the gpu, but should I plan on a more powerful CPU and/or more ram for the work side of things?
untold fern
Accounting work as in Excel?
vestal bluff
yeah, mostly
untold fern
Yeah you should be fine with that... I wouldn't expect any Excel sheet to require more than a AAA game
vestal bluff
Alright, thank you!
crimson scroll
Seems fine to me, what's your budget
cedar herald
lol
fathom coyote
Today I got into building my first pc, I had all of the parts and I start trying to put my cpu in and it won’t fit and I found out my cpu doesn’t work with my motherboard
crimson scroll
unfortunate
true charm
F
wooden citrus
F
noble oak
hi
i wanna get a custom built
by me
so
act nah
ima get a prebuilt
ok i just bought it
amd ryzen 3
1050
i dont play massive games
crimson scroll
probably still cheaper to build it yourself
fathom coyote
asus rog maximus xii hero (wifi) LGA 1200 and i9 9900k LGA1151
lucid glade
Welcome to the wonderful world of intel, where you get one generation to use CPUs before you have to swap your motherboard.
static pecan
laughs in AM4
lucid glade
Looking forward to swapping my 3950x for a 4950x and the 3950x still having most of its value.
devout wolf
laughs in AM4
zen on x570:
zen and zen+ on b550 and a520:
zen 3 on x370, b350 and a320:
crimson scroll
also the whole apu issue
calm forge
Sorry but LTT did it better @calm forge :P
@pulsar fossil :0
stoic walrus
Threadripper 3970x, best cooling method? I have never tried to water cool before (would want to look as nice as possible and see all the ram)
fierce plaza
amd ryzen 3
1050
@noble oak how much did you pay for it
calm forge
Threadripper 3970x, best cooling method? I have never tried to water cool before (would want to look as nice as possible and see all the ram)
@stoic walrus what company do you want it from
dusty ivy
untold fern
Glass side or an open case lol
dusty ivy
Tempered glass side
untold fern
Nice, looks good
dusty ivy
Gracias
noble oak
My friend says that I should poor water on my gpu and says its just as good as water cooling
Is this a good idea?
fierce plaza
is a radeon rx 580 better/worse/on par with the 1660
static pecan
Lmao UserBench
tender turtle
anywas
best ram for gaming laptop?
i might get hyperx 8gb
then i'd be able to seamlessly run lower-end games with my mouse on full macro
static pecan
Whatever DRAM will work with your system, but go with 16GB
fierce plaza
i need a straight answer, after i was told userbenchmark is bad i dont trust it
tender turtle
I already have 8 gb to begin with
And I'm not an incredibly serious gamer
LMAOAO I just found the desktop version of my laptop
and the monitor too
nitro series is red and black themed
not bad color scheme
static pecan
@fierce plaza https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3451-evga-gtx-1660-review-vs-1660-ti-rx-590-more
fierce plaza
ty
fierce plaza
yes
fierce plaza
5500xt or 1660?
dusty ivy
RTX 3090
devout wolf
5500xt or 1660?
@fierce plaza neither? they're both pretty bad for the price
unless you can get a 5500xt 8gb for $180
go with a 1660 super
fierce plaza
i have a ryzen 5 2600
not a very good cpu but its gonna work for now
and moderately cheap
unborn kiln
Do you currently have a gpu that you can use for the time being?
If you are going with a Radeon GPU I would hold till they announce their new line-up
Then try to get a deal on the second hand market
What is your budget?
gilded frost
I don’t think the now older generation video cards will be dropping in price anytime soon, especially the lower end Nvidia and Radeon cards. They rely on those cards to sell half of the times
dusty ivy
5700 XT GPU benchmarks are nice. But then yeah Radeon is making an announcement on 10/28/2020.
unborn kiln
I don’t think the now older generation video cards will be dropping in price anytime soon, especially the lower end Nvidia and Radeon cards. They rely on those cards to sell half of the times
@gilded frost People naturally tend to panic sell, especially when a new card is announced
gilded frost
Well naturally on websites such as ebay. I was referring to the official companies who carry the card, because eventually , the panic selling on ebay is going to go down, and the demand for an actual card will go up.
unborn kiln
If you are going with a Radeon GPU I would hold till they announce their new line-up
Then try to get a deal on the second hand marketWhat is your budget?
@unborn kiln Notice how I said second hand?
crimson scroll
wat
for retail price, yeah, it's not in a good spot, but it's fine performance wise
static pecan
But Saucy everyone knows AMD can't possibly compete with Intel! The 2600 is a loser's CPU! /s
crimson scroll
it's not that great in games when you compare it to the 3600 for sure