#💻-building-a-pc

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crimson scroll
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the motherboard is super budget compared to your gpu and ssd right now

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what cpu are you on

sweet skiff
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i7 7700k

crimson scroll
sweet skiff
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i would like to get a new motherboard but then id have to wait a bit longer for a new gpu...i suppose the next thing i get is a new MB...would probs make life easier

crimson scroll
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yeah

sweet skiff
crimson scroll
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your motherboard is really restricting you

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you don't have a chipset that allows overclocking

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and since you're using more expansion slots you probably want atx

sweet skiff
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i dont particularly need to OC my cpu...do i ?

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also what atx

crimson scroll
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with a 7700k?

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yeah, you should

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this is in f1 2019 1080p

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you get gains for sure

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atx is a form factor

devout wolf
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kaby lake

crimson scroll
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12x9 inches

devout wolf
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crinj

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o no

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b series kaby lake

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poor you...

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i feel your pain

sweet skiff
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i see

you get gains for sure
@crimson scroll

devout wolf
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and yeah a 7700k has to be overclocked or else a 3300x beats it :p

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mfw 7600 GWaobloChildPepeCry

sweet skiff
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but ya i need a new PSU for sure though so i guess the next thing after that is a new MB

crimson scroll
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why don't you make a pcpp list

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and also put your budget for upgrades

sweet skiff
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will do

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also what psu would you recommend for a 3080?

devout wolf
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3080 and which cpu?

sweet skiff
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coz im surprised my 2070 runs at all with my 550

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xD

crimson scroll
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probably around 700w will be plenty, you can probably get away with 600

sweet skiff
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3080 and which cpu?
@devout wolf i7 7700k

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i see

crimson scroll
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read that thread

devout wolf
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i really like how the FE looks

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especially the bronze metal

crimson scroll
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also your 7700k isn't even overclocked and it has a similar starting tdp to the 10600k according to intel

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so power draw there won't be as high

sweet skiff
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i see

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imma send a pic of the psu's i was looking at and was wondering what the point of getting the bottom left 1 is...the pic might take a while to come through coz i have poopy inet

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oh R is rand its R16.32 for $1

crimson scroll
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branding

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wattage isn't everything, some 600w psus are better than some 850w psus

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however, the rm850x is a very good psu

sweet skiff
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will take a look now

crimson scroll
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the ROG strix is also listed extremely highly on there

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pretty much the same tier

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so at that point it's probably just branding from asus

sweet skiff
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i see

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so then the obvious choice is the rm850x

crimson scroll
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if it was in stock lol

sweet skiff
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true xD

crimson scroll
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any other options?

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different sites maybe

sweet skiff
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theres only like 3 websited in SA that arnt dodgy AF

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and 1 of them closed due to covid...seems that they might be re-opening though

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i could order from somewhere else but then the shipping costs will be dumb

crimson scroll
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right

sweet skiff
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also the postal service in SA is beyond trash..my friend ordered keykaps...they got to SA in like a weekish so not terrable but then just sat there for 3 months

crimson scroll
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those prices are high anyways, 170 for a rmx850

sweet skiff
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ya all the prices in SA are trash it costs R24 to 25k for a 3080 here which is around $1471

crimson scroll
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ouch

sweet skiff
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mmm but i kinda have a workaround in a way..my dad has a friend in the US so im gonna buy it there...somehow...send it to him and he ships it here which will hopefully be cheaper

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oh well anyways thank you for your input it was quite helpful and have a good day 🙂

crimson scroll
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you too!

keen oyster
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Do I need a ssd

pulsar fossil
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Yes

keen oyster
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ty

devout wolf
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lmao

keen oyster
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Can someone send me a link for a cheap ssd

crimson scroll
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are you looking to build a whole new computer or upgrade one you currently have, and what's your budget

hollow glacier
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apple releases ios 14

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boiss

pulsar fossil
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Not sure how that relates to building a PC but you're right :P

safe cradle
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bruh a psu manufacturer called Armageddon with all of its psus being dangerous

devout wolf
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lmao

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that oceania brand

crimson scroll
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or diablotek

pallid iris
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I have a question

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If i want to boost my fps on minecraft

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What part should i upgrade

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First

crimson scroll
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what's your part list

pulsar fossil
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What's your specs?

pallid iris
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Core i7 nividia GTX

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I dont really know the rest i would have to open it up

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I got it like 5 yrs ago

static pecan
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To get the specific CPU and GPU ID you can open up task manager and it'll tell you

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Just right click the taskbar, go to task manger, then click the performance tab

crimson scroll
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^

hallow falcon
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I’m almost able to fully afford a pc. I have a parts list but I was wondering if anyone could help me make a better one. My price range for the pc itself is around $1500-1800

static pecan
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Send the parts list you have already lol. It's a lot easier to make changes to your existing one that make an entirely new one

hallow falcon
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It’s called AMD BUILD

static pecan
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RGB ram is overpriced and kinda dumb IMO unless you just like the look of it there are a lot cheaper RAM kits you can get. The Crucial P1 1TB NVME SSD is $15 cheaper and there wouldn't be a significant performance hit. Buying a 20 series card right now is really dumb as well tbh especially the 2080 Super

hallow falcon
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Any recommendations?

static pecan
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For what specifically?

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Also, a Micro ATX board inside of an ATX case is not going to be pleasing to the eye. I'd definitely swap that out for full ATX unless you want to get a smaller case

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Although if this is your first build full ATX cases are much easier to work with

crimson scroll
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nah, sn550>p1

static pecan
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Is there actually that big a difference between them?

crimson scroll
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2000/1700 vs 2400/1950

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not really a huge difference

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but also WD has put some architectural changes in that cause the sn550 to be fast and durable even without dram or hmb

hallow falcon
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So then what would be a better GPU/motherboard?

crimson scroll
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3080 for the price

static pecan
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^

crimson scroll
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if you wanna go all out, something like the x570 tuf for your motherboard

static pecan
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At this point waiting for 30 series to hit shelves is the best bet, assuming you can get one before they go out of stock for 2 months

crimson scroll
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otherwise go like msi mortar

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b550m pro4 is good for budget

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pretty dang good vrms

static pecan
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It's definitely not a bad board it's just micro ATX inside an ATX case is not the move lol

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Do they have an ATX version of that board?

crimson scroll
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yeah

hallow falcon
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If I don’t have Ethernet do I need a WiFi motherboard?

crimson scroll
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but like

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just get the mortar

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@hallow falcon no you can add a wifi card

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the tuf board i'm talking about does have wifi though

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around $180 and fabulous vrms and features

hallow falcon
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Yeah I got that added on pc part picker, thanks

static pecan
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Hey @crimson scroll between the TUF X570 PLUS and the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite which one would you recommend?

crimson scroll
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it's mostly a wash

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i don't know enough about their specific features

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aorus elite has usb bios update

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their rgb software has never been great and their bios is kinda clunky though

static pecan
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That's what I thought too just thought too just wanted another opinion to see if there was any fundamental difference between the two. RN I'm planning to go with the Aorus because of aesthetics. The yellow accents on the TUF won't go very well with the black/grey w/purple RGB color scheme I'm planning on lol

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I can't really find any difference between the feature sets other than minor stuff. Both have exactly what I'm looking for

crimson scroll
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pretty much the same audio codec on both, the arous elite has slightly better LAN, pretty much equal vrms, aesthetics up to you and like you said, go with the aorus then

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i didn't check current prices but they should both be around 190

static pecan
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Aorus has more USB ports lol

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Yeah the Aorus has been around $190 for a month or so now. Not planning to buy anything till holidays though when I can hopefully get sales on a lot of my parts

crimson scroll
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both look like they have shielded the top layer of traces

static pecan
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They do

crimson scroll
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aorus elite doesn't have ps/2

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deal breaker for me

static pecan
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I don't have anything that requires ps/2 so I'm good there

crimson scroll
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yeah i was kidding haha

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no type c port on the aorus elite

static pecan
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Oh lmao

crimson scroll
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no type c on the tuf either

static pecan
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I'm getting the 500DX case which has type C on the front and the board has the header for it

crimson scroll
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oh wait they have one

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dp and hdmi out on the tuf which we don't care about

static pecan
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Yee, but I also don't have anything that uses Type C and probably won't for awhile so only 1 type c port is fine with me

crimson scroll
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more sata ports on the tuf

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two m.2 each

static pecan
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Starting with 2TB of NVME storage (2 P1s lol) so sata ports will just be for expansion down the line

crimson scroll
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13 usb ports total on the tuf, 16 on the aorus

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wew

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only two system fan headers on the aorus elite kinda sucks

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the b550m pro4 has 3

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yep, still a wash to me

static pecan
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The fans in the pure base 500DX aren't PWM anyways so that's kinda a non-issue unless I want to replace the pure wings fans down the line

crimson scroll
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Unfortunate

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Same issues with the inland series changing internals

noble oak
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Anyone else waiting for zen 3

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I almost bough a R5 3600 this week.

devout wolf
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yeah 3600 prices are garbage rn

static pecan
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Buying any Zen 2 CPU rn would be dumb lol

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The price of the 3700X is also the highest it's been in like a year

pulsar fossil
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So I shouldn't buy a RTX2080Ti and 3700X today? Kappa

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:D

unborn kiln
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yeah 3600 prices are garbage rn
@devout wolf People are just impulse buying based on what creators are saying, not really doing their own research. I remember at one point the R5 1600 af was being recommended and the price shot up, it is still very high

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Its crazy

atomic dust
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im back

noble oak
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Saucy why did you want me the get the I5-10600k?

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And not the i7-9700k

merry dew
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the i7 is an old processor on a dead chipset

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if you buy the i5-10600k itll be around for longer

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It also has hyperthreading

noble oak
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Oh you meant the gen?

merry dew
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What? Yes, the 10th gen is the newest one and the 9700K isnt an useful purchase. you are better off with the i5-10600K

crimson scroll
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unless the price is right

merry dew
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^^

crimson scroll
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but isn't 99% of the time

noble oak
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is the 3700x overpriced/dead chipset?

crimson scroll
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nah

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not in the US

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a teensy bit expensive but still good value for productivity focused people while also being fine for games

noble oak
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is getting the 3800x worth it?

crimson scroll
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depends on price

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and what you use irt for

noble oak
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gaming, school work, some vid editing

naive dagger
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ok

crimson scroll
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probably not worth

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i think a lot of people overestimate how much video editing they're gonna do

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it's not like a 10600k won't be able to do all those tasks

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it'll just be slightly slower

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and if you're doing a lot of that, then it adds up

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but if gaming is your focus and some video editing on the side where time isn't an issue

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10600k is the way to go in that price bracket

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it just depends on the balance of what tasks you're doing

noble oak
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Yeah so I got a random 480gb SSD at home so if I put it into my gaming laptop right now will I need to install windows 10 on it?

safe cradle
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what

noble oak
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What

safe cradle
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lol

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why would you need to reinstall windows once getting a new drive

noble oak
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jesus?

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Why why

safe cradle
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??

noble oak
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??

safe cradle
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ok i hope whoever helps this guy can deal with the headache

noble oak
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Lol

safe cradle
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I have seen people go up more then that
@unborn kiln you don't need more than 8 gb for minecraft, even with a heavy modpack

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if anything it ruins performance by either cutting your fps or causing horrible stutters

unborn kiln
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Yes I know just saying that I have seen people push it further

safe cradle
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its not worth doing that

unborn kiln
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I am not that you should.

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All I said was it is possible

noble oak
safe cradle
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possible? yes. recommended? nope

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yes casp

crimson scroll
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yes, it will

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but

safe cradle
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but dont buy an rtx 2070s

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rn

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just dont

crimson scroll
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i wouldn't buy a 2070s for 430 euro

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@noble oak depends on how many slots your laptop has open

noble oak
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this is going to be next year anyway so prices will go down

safe cradle
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bruh

crimson scroll
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if it has a spare slot, you can install it and it'll just be read as a drive

safe cradle
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if its going to be next year get a 30 series card

crimson scroll
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if it doesn't and you have to replace your current hard drive or ssd, then yes, you'll need to reinstall windows

unborn kiln
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this is going to be next year anyway so prices will go down
@noble oak what's your budget?

noble oak
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@noble oak what's your budget?
@unborn kiln max of 2k

crimson scroll
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come back next year

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things will change price

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but that build even now is not recommended

merry dew
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Yeah no point in buying a 2070s now

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the 3070 is on par with the flagship 2080ti

safe cradle
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iirc theres gonna be an rtx 3060 ti

merry dew
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so just wait for it to come

fallow bay
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Will the price for 2060 drop to 250-300?

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What do you guys reckon

crimson scroll
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used market it already has

merry dew
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yeah

fallow bay
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I mean 1st hand

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Not used

crimson scroll
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meh

merry dew
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like a RTX 2060 is not even worth getting tbh

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so

crimson scroll
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at this point i don't see getting new cards on old gen unless they're cheap

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which the 2060 is not

merry dew
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

fallow bay
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I was going for a 1660super

safe cradle
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2060 wasnt even worth getting before 30 series getting announced

merry dew
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exactly

fallow bay
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If the price for 2060 gets around its price

crimson scroll
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go for 5600xt or something for value

merry dew
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sadly I have it in my laptop

crimson scroll
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but best is to go used on that

safe cradle
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bruh i get warned for an emote name

merry dew
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it aint much but it works while gaming

safe cradle
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weirdchamp

fallow bay
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Is 5600x better than 1660 super?

crimson scroll
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yes

safe cradle
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yes

merry dew
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I want to make an ITX build as a home pc

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help?

fallow bay
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I'll check some benchmarks

safe cradle
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itx?

crimson scroll
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don't use userbenchmark

safe cradle
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LMAO

merry dew
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yeah like a really small pc

safe cradle
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userbenchmark

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why tho @merry dew

merry dew
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since I need one

crimson scroll
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their system benchmark is okay just to check if your parts are performing reasonably within spec

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but their one on one sucks

merry dew
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I dont have nf or any other streaming service

safe cradle
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system benchmark is nice yeah

merry dew
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i mean, I would get it if it would be worth getting

safe cradle
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didnt they have intel favoring descriptions

merry dew
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but as it turns out we are paying so much overprice for the amount of content we recieve

safe cradle
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in their 1 on 1s lmai

merry dew
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what can you do...

safe cradle
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what are you using your home pc for

crimson scroll
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for the most part yes. they heavily favored single core and even changed the ranking system to increase single core score

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so they had some i3 beating out a threadripper

safe cradle
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no

merry dew
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I have a laptop and I use it for photo editing and gaming

safe cradle
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i mean they literally trashtalked amd in the amd cpu descriptions

merry dew
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^^

crimson scroll
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oh, idk about that

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i didn't read them

safe cradle
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they really did that

fallow bay
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will the price drop for 5600xt?

safe cradle
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the site is written by children

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probably

fallow bay
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K

crimson scroll
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everything will drop eventually to a certain point, but not further since people who want to buy that specific model will buy it

merry dew
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plus I am living with my parents (im a bit over 15) so its going to be used by my family

crimson scroll
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it's why you see new 7700k, etc. still super high in price

fallow bay
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5600xt and r5 3600

merry dew
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thats why I want to make one

fallow bay
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Is it good?

safe cradle
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what are you gonna use it for dude

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no

fallow bay
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The combo

safe cradle
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dont get a 3600

crimson scroll
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it's okay

fallow bay
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Then which one?

safe cradle
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ryzen 4000 will come out

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wait for that

fallow bay
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Oh

crimson scroll
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if you need a system now

merry dew
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movie streaming on tv, storage etc..

crimson scroll
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it's fine

safe cradle
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3600 prices are horrible

crimson scroll
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if you don't, then wait

safe cradle
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you can buy a 3600x for the price of a 3600

fallow bay
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I will buy the pc next year

merry dew
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I have a 1TB 2,5'' drive on my desk lmao

crimson scroll
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yeah right now the prices are wack

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@fallow bay so come back next year

merry dew
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so thats 1tb of free space o

safe cradle
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then dont build it now

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lmao

merry dew
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on da thing

fallow bay
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Lol

crimson scroll
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it's a bad idea to try to set up a build for something that's four months out

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maybe if you're doing enterprise stuff

safe cradle
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@merry dew whats the home pc for dude

crimson scroll
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then yeah that makes sense

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not for consumer stuff

merry dew
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@merry dew whats the home pc for dude
@safe cradle I just told ya 😐

safe cradle
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missed that yold on

merry dew
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plus I am living with my parents (im a bit over 15) so its going to be used by my family
@merry dew

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movie streaming on tv, storage etc..
@merry dew

safe cradle
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for that you can probably get a used or refurbed cheap office pc and stick some hard drives in it

merry dew
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Yeah

safe cradle
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yeah

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thats it

merry dew
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well I live in finland

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you see

safe cradle
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office pcs are common

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dell optiplex, hp compaq

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theyre easy to upgrade as well

crimson scroll
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ehhh

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easy to upgrade is a stretch for many office computers

safe cradle
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for what he wants to do they are

merry dew
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we have so strict laws here that require old machines to be either sold in the bankruptcy process/to be dismantled for electronic waste

crimson scroll
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slim form factor and custom motherboards

merry dew
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and it needs to be ITX

safe cradle
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sff pcs fit a 1050 ti lol

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specific model but still

crimson scroll
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and?

merry dew
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Since it needs to fit the living room cupboard

safe cradle
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its not really hard to upgrade

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you just need specific parts

merry dew
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selling old office pcs isnt a thing in finland

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^^^^

safe cradle
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oh it aint?

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F

merry dew
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they simply dont do that

safe cradle
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doesnt have to be an office pc

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just any used cheap pc

merry dew
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ive been trying to tell you

crimson scroll
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you can't blanket statement that it's easy to upgrade office pcs

merry dew
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I know

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This laptop is used, my old build was used and all of my pcs are used

crimson scroll
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you say they can fit 1050ti

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some can

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what if you want to upgrade higher

safe cradle
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you just need specific parts

crimson scroll
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yeah

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so that's not easy

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when you add in the specific parts requirement

safe cradle
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lol

crimson scroll
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you are severely limiting the scope of the upgrade

safe cradle
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if you know what parts to use its not hard to upgrade

merry dew
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for crying out loud

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please

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no need to take it so seriously

crimson scroll
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i mean

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not misinforming people is kinda important

safe cradle
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ight i cant be bothered with you

merry dew
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if you know what parts to use its not hard to upgrade
@safe cradle if I knew what parts to use I wouldnt be here good sir

safe cradle
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i mean

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you only need it for movie streaming and storage?

merry dew
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yes

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fast speeds

safe cradle
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then your only concern is storage

merry dew
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no sluggish shitty slow garbage can rattle

safe cradle
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everything else is pretty much irrelevant

crimson scroll
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huh.

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shit

merry dew
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alright

crimson scroll
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so how come we can say that now

toxic raftBOT
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Saucy Raichu#4498 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

crimson scroll
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lmao

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you can say shit but not donkey

safe cradle
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movie streaming aint demanding

crimson scroll
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great logic

merry dew
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:D

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I know.

crimson scroll
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and yeah, a modern apu can do 4k 60

merry dew
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apu or cpu?

crimson scroll
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an apu is a cpu

merry dew
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apu is auxiliary power unit

crimson scroll
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i say apu so that you don't need to buy a separate graphics card

merry dew
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ohh

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yeah wasnt planning on doing that

crimson scroll
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nah apu is the amd term for integrated graphics

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with your cpu

safe cradle
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breh

merry dew
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slap a bad boy 4tb drive + os ssd and its all I need

safe cradle
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idk how much storage you can fit in a mini itx build though lmao

merry dew
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thinking about the R3 3200G

safe cradle
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you dont really need an apu for movie streaming

crimson scroll
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@safe cradle a lot? you know there are huge m.2 and 2.5" capacities available

safe cradle
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like, do you have a 4k display?

merry dew
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Yes

crimson scroll
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@safe cradle as opposed to what? it's cheaper than buying a display out card separately

safe cradle
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lmao

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imagine pinging me twice

crimson scroll
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yeah

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for different shit

safe cradle
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couldve done both of that without pinging me

crimson scroll
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okay, sorry

safe cradle
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@merry dew if you have a 4k display go for a 2200g

merry dew
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aight

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isnt it older?

crimson scroll
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you haven't answered the question though lol

safe cradle
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not that big a difference i think

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it is

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hold on i think the igpu is the same

merry dew
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Alright Ill see for what prices do they go on the marketplaces

safe cradle
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both vega 8

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both pretty much the same

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in gaming its a marginal performance increase but idk about movie streaming

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@safe cradle a lot? you know there are huge m.2 and 2.5" capacities available
idk you can ask him if he wants to spend money on a 4tb m.2 drive for a simple home pc

merry dew
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isnt a 3,5'' drive gonna fitr

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since Ive seen people do itx builds with em

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and I have 1tb in 2,5'' form factor already

safe cradle
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@safe cradle as opposed to what? it's cheaper than buying a display out card separately
because movie streaming isnt demanding at all unless you go with 4k

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like christ

crimson scroll
#

right. so that's why i said go with an apu

safe cradle
#

@merry dew not sure

crimson scroll
#

you said "you don't really need an apu for movie streaming"

merry dew
#

isnt it up to the case

crimson scroll
#

that would imply there's something lower than that

#

but the other option would be no integrated graphics and a dedicated gpu

#

so...you're kind of an idiot

#

and also i like how you pointed out spending money on a 4tb m.2

#

when i also stated there were 2.5" drives with large capacity

safe cradle
#

oh okay

crimson scroll
#

in fact, there are 2.5" hdds

merry dew
#

yeah ik

crimson scroll
#

like christ

merry dew
#

I have one

safe cradle
#

then you can ask him if he has a 4tb in 2.5" lmao

crimson scroll
#

that's not the point

safe cradle
#

oh so you just wanna be a smartass and ping me twice for offhand comments to then call me an idiot?

crimson scroll
#

the point was that you didn't know how much storage you could fit in a mini itx build

#

and then i answer the question

#

and you change the goalposts

#

so yes

#

you're either an idiot or trolling

safe cradle
#

ight

#

@merry dew might wanna wait for cpu prices

#

not sure how the 2200g is doing but

merry dew
#

here we can see 1tb of 2.5''

safe cradle
#

ok, you can use it

devout wolf
#

5400rpm go brrr

merry dew
crimson scroll
#

also some itx cases can fit 3.5" anyways

merry dew
#

ik

safe cradle
#

oof 320gb

merry dew
#

yeah its from 2008

crimson scroll
#

so really "how much storage can fit in a mini itx case" has several factors including physical drive space and sata/m.2 ports on your motherboard

merry dew
#

and it hasnt been emptied

noble oak
#

what is a good psu for a 3700x and a rtx 3070? that is under $130

#

pls @ ping me i muted this server

noble oak
#

Psu?

crimson scroll
#

power supply unit

merry dew
#

Yuh, i think my build is solid now.

#

oh shoot, isnt

naive dagger
#

oof

merry dew
#

Im getting a Silverstone SG13-Q for 30€

#

aint bad tbh

#

used R3-3200G for 50€

#

a 120gb m.2 os drive for 20€

#

and a 2tb seagate barracuda for 65€

#

(I have a wd drive here, 1TB without use so gang)

noble oak
#

does anyone know when gaming laptops with the rtx 3070/3080 are releasing?

#

Me waiting for the October 15th Drop and Benchmarks just hoping I can get my hands on 1 by november

#

Eh im waiting for Zen 3 now, but if it isn't here by november im gonna settle for a R5 3600

#

does anyone know the exact time of the 3070 drop?

tall cove
#

Time to install the new ones

devout wolf
#

if it's a h5xx

#

mount them all exhaust

#

since airflow is non-existent you have to go all negative pressure

tall cove
#

All of them pushing exhaust is wack, and it’s a h500

devout wolf
#

same case

#

and it's the only optimal config for such a case

#

but you do you

tall cove
#

Imma keep the front as intake, I understand what you mean but... yeah

noble oak
#

ewwww, a hard drive

tall cove
#

yall think its worth it to have 2 60hz monitors of the same make and model or just one 144 or up monitor

#

This is the current monitor that i have, its on sale and mad cheap but i could defo get a round a 144 for like 50$ more but OCD would kill me with two different monitors

📎 screenshot1.PNG
naive dagger
#

144hz is worth it

tall cove
#

if yall got 144 hz monitors that also are good in price so i can get two?

#

I was just gonna get that one and a duel mount so i can do extra crap during class

#

This 2080 listing is funny asl

devout wolf
#

yes

tall cove
#

Fan

noble oak
#

im prolly gonna wait for the 3070 to release tho

#

I'm looking to get a laptop that has above average performance for gaming and school work that will last me all the way to college (5-6 years)

#

for around $2200

devout wolf
#

kekware

noble oak
#

?

tall cove
#

Alienware = Kekware

#

I personally dont enjoy Alienware products, never heard great things about em

noble oak
#

whats so bad abt it?

tall cove
#

Nothing terrible its just never heard overly happy about them

noble oak
#

kk

#

any suggestions?

devout wolf
#

alienware laptops completely defy the reason laptops even exist

tall cove
#

Lol

crimson scroll
#

why not get a laptop for 7-800 and a desktop for 1200

#

and just remote in

tall cove
#

I can understand getting on for college classes and lectures but not really as a daily driver

crimson scroll
#

for lectures where you have to go in person?

#

yeah, definitely a thin laptop. if you like taking notes with writing, getting a convertible is nice too

#

even the 15 inch alienwares or sagers or clevos will be big and obnoxious to use

noble oak
#

im not in college rn, i need one that can last until i can make it to college

#

so one that lasts 5-6 years

#

i need one primarily for gaming and school work

#

why not get a laptop for 7-800 and a desktop for 1200
@crimson scroll i need something that is portable that i can game on

crimson scroll
#

you can get a 800 dollar laptop that'll do low end games fine

noble oak
#

yeah, but i already have a laptop and am looking to upgrade it

crimson scroll
#

right...i'm saying something like a 4800u

noble oak
#

i already have better laptop than that 🙂

median rivet
#

Goodjob nvidia gg

crimson scroll
#

then...why upgrade

tall cove
#

Lol

crimson scroll
#

unless you have oodles of money i guess

#

since i'm pretty sure you also asked for an expensive desktop build

tall cove
#

^^^

noble oak
#

i asked for a 1500 desktop build but my dad i had to get a gaming laptop cuz it is portable

crimson scroll
#

well

#

if you really need power while being able to lug it around

#

what's your current laptop

noble oak
#

hp elitebook 850 g4 i7

crimson scroll
#

that's better than the 4800u how?

#

i7-7500U with hd 620 graphics

noble oak
#

oh, whoops i accidently clicked on the wrong model

#

i accidently click on a link to the 4800h

tall cove
#

🤔

fallow bay
#

Will gaming laptop prices decline after 3000s and zen 3?

crimson scroll
#

meh

#

gonna say no

#

the two aren't really related

#

maybe once you get mobile versions

tall cove
#

^

#

It doesn’t make sense for it to decrease honestly

merry dew
#

I have a Zephyrus M

#

and its thin silent and good

#

can be noisy if you want it to be that

lean quarry
#

I want a rtx 3080 in my 📱

naive dagger
#

good idea

static pecan
#

From my experience in college, at least where I go, the majority of professors require us to take notes by hand with pen and paper. I bought a gaming laptop last year because I figured I would need it for note taking + media creation work for my major, but between having to take paper notes + all the software we actually need already being on the school's computers in the labs my laptop is pretty much just a wannabe desktop at this point and hasn't even left my desk (aside from visiting my parents for a weekend here and there) in like 6 months

#

Long story short, the best option would be to get a $1200-$1500 desktop and a $500-$800 laptop for those times when you do actually need something portable

crimson scroll
#

yep

#

assuming that's your budget

hasty trellis
#

yeah true

#

that desktop has to last 5-6 yrs, so its gotta have future proof parts

static pecan
#

That's why I'm waiting for Zen 3 + RX6000/Ampere for my next build. I'm going all out this time around so my parts will hopefully last me a good 10 years or more (at least the CPU. I'll probably have to replace the GPU after 5 or so years)

tight ruin
#

i just built a pc

4700x
16 gm ram
Asus tuf x570-plus (wifi)
1 tb nvme
2 tb hdd

it turns on but i get no display. I tried hdmi and display port. My gpu hasnt arived yet so i'm plugging them into my motherboard

crimson scroll
#

that's why

#

i assume you mean 3700x

#

which has no igpu

#

you can't get display without a dedicated gpu

lean quarry
#

i currently got a gtx 1050 ti, ryzen 3 1200 and a a320m mobo i think i need to upgrade

crimson scroll
#

not getting the frames you want?

lean quarry
#

not at all

crimson scroll
#

what's your budget and use case? doing anything apart from games?

noble oak
#

Either way, wait for the 30 series cards@lean quarry

#

Itll make the other cards DROP on prices

#

Or, you could get a 3070

devout wolf
#

it wont makes older cards drop

#

unless you're talking about the used market

noble oak
#

Ofc

cedar herald
#

idk man zen 3 coming soon right

#

and the

#

rx 6900

#

in october

noble oak
#

Amd is never gonna have shit on nvidia

crimson scroll
#

people said that about amd and intel during bulldozer

lean quarry
#

Can i take out my ram while my pc is off without problems or do i need to do any system fix when i put them back?

crimson scroll
#

that's fine

#

there's some stuff about putting ram into the rights slots to get dual channel and all that so if you change where you put it you might get some slower speeds

lean quarry
#

Yeah but i only got one stick so

crimson scroll
#

unfortunate

lean quarry
#

And my motherboard only has two memory slots

#

😦

lean quarry
#

The side with the psu is on the top

devout wolf
#

rip

#

single stick with ryzen

safe cradle
#

ugly cables gang

crimson scroll
#

did i show my new 1080ti yet

lean quarry
#

@crimson scroll no you didnt

devout wolf
#

accelero 3 pog

safe cradle
safe cradle
#

ah yes

#

2080 ti

crimson scroll
#

i like how the trio has only two fans

crimson scroll
#

New card on the left. Real chunky

noble oak
crimson scroll
#

You can bump it up to 700 or 750 if you're worried

noble oak
#

Not the W of it, Im concerned if it's a good PSU for my buiild

crimson scroll
#

It's okay

noble oak
#

Alright, thank you.

#

I might be building sonner than expected so i'm just making sure all of my parts work and are fit for my build

devout wolf
#

i've decided

#

kapp

static pecan
#

4 cores and 4 threads is better than no cores and no threads on the clearly inferior AMD chip

#

I bet there's a 5 paragraph MLA essay on how godly the 9100F is at the bottom of the page vs like one sentence saying something along the lines of "Just some workstation chip from AMD." for the 3990X

devout wolf
#

for sure

#

3990x can't even run crysis at a good framerate smh

lean quarry
#

But can it run crysis remasterd?

static pecan
#

Definitely not. The CPU itself would literally melt down and light the entire computer on fire

safe cradle
#

9100f 😩

static pecan
#

9100F + RTX 3080 gang rise up!

merry dew
#

What kind of PSU do you guys recommend?

static pecan
#

Wattage or brand?

merry dew
#

This build

#

also, what kind of cpu cooler

static pecan
#

Lol you gotta send the link for the specific build. That one just takes you to the regular pcpartpicker page

merry dew
#

oh :D

#

there

#

(keep in mind its an ITX home pc build, main purpose is to serve as a storage/movie streamer)

static pecan
#

Does that case fit ATX PSUs?

merry dew
#

Yes.

#

also, its coupled with an Fractal Design Silent Series R3 140mm case fan

#

but couldnt find one on PCPartpicker

static pecan
#

Alright, then this Corsair one https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/bqVD4D/corsair-rmx-2018-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020177-na

Or this be quiet! one would both be good options. https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/FF8j4D/be-quiet-straight-power-11-450w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn280

I can't find many low wattage PSUs that are actually good and and actually have a price listed on them lol

Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power...
be quiet! Straight Power 11 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ...
merry dew
#

neither one is

#

and jimms is in turku

#

thats like a 150km drive for a PSU

#

any other options?

frank mango
#

amazon amazon amazon

devout wolf
#

also for the love of god please don't pair 2666cl19 with a zen+ apu

#

that is just cursed

merry dew
#

well what should i

#

my options are limited good sir

#

and im not gonna spend bazillion dollars on ram

#

amazon amazon amazon
@frank mango i live in finland

#

and im not ordering from abroad

#

and jimms is in turku
@devout wolf

#

thats like a 150km drive for a PSU
@devout wolf

devout wolf
#

can you link me a local retailer then?

#

and i'm not asking you to dump a million dollars on ram

#

just get 3000mhz cl16 and your cpu wont feel like killing itself

merry dew
#

theres one thats near

#

also gigantti

devout wolf
merry dew
#

Alright, thank you. What about the CPU cooler

devout wolf
#

use the included cpu cooler

#

with the 3200g

merry dew
#

alright, shall it do?

#

and not explode in 2 weeks

devout wolf
#

yes that's a good unit

merry dew
#

ok

devout wolf
#

and change the ram to that since ryzen itself requires low latency ram and ontop of that the igpu is already memory bottlenecked so 2666cl19 is the worst possible kit for a ryzen apu

merry dew
#

this shall do?

#

the case and the cpu are 2nd handf

devout wolf
#

lemme check for fans

#

change the ssd tho

#

wd green has a 2d nand, so bleh

merry dew
#

huh?

#

2d nand

#

also i took it because its 20€

#

i wont pay more than 30 for an os drive

devout wolf
#

perfect

#

you can also go with a 2.5" SSD and it will actually be faster than the WD Green M.2

#

yeah no good 2.5" for under 30 as far as i can see

#

OH WAIT

merry dew
#

link?

devout wolf
#

YIKES

merry dew
#

what?

devout wolf
#

the A400 sucks

merry dew
#

yeah the read speed was like 500 mbps

devout wolf
#

suicidal controller

merry dew
#

lmao

devout wolf
#

read speed for sata is limited to around 500mbps anyway

#

500-550

merry dew
#

anyways link a drive?

devout wolf
#

tryna find one under 30 that doesn't die in 4 minutes

merry dew
#

since im planning on adding a 2.5'' HDD anyways how will the case hold up

#

will this do?

devout wolf
#

suicidal controller

merry dew
#

o

#

?

devout wolf
#

it's meh

#

it won't die but it has no dram

#

lemme look in the other retailer

merry dew
#

Thats bad

#

yeah Gigantti

#

power also

#

thats one

devout wolf
#

blue LED is a downside or an upside depending on if you like it or not

#

but it's like 70cfm vs the fractal design one which is 45cfm

merry dew
#

uhh is it available non rgb

#

since i dont like em

devout wolf
#

it's not rgb

#

it's just blue

#

and sadly not, but it's a great fan

merry dew
#

oh, can I snap the leds out of it?

devout wolf
#

lol

#

there is a red one too, if that makes anything better :p

merry dew
#

red is better

devout wolf
#

gigantti doesn't have anything either

#

oof

merry dew
#

yeah I added it

#

check power

devout wolf
#

ugh finland pcpp only shows jimm's

#

might have to just go with the bx500

#

no better option :(

merry dew
#

uhh

#

I meant the retailer

#

Power

noble oak
#

RGB=100+ more FPS

tender turtle
#

me when the nvidia geforce gtx 1650

#

is that a good graphics card

#

probably

#

i have it in my laptop

devout wolf
#

i mean

#

it's a 1650

#

i think the laptop one used to be better than the desktop one before they switched to gddr6

crimson scroll
#

that's hilarious

tough hazel
#

i have radeon vega graphics...

crimson scroll
#

okay

tough hazel
#

i dont speak in yes i speak in yes'nt

lean quarry
#

Oof

high dune
#

anyone here wanna buy me pc parts jk lol

merry dew
#

as in give them for free to you?

pulsar fossil
#

Getting free parts is pretty nice

crimson scroll
#

i'm down to give you parts for free, just pay shipping + handling

noble oak
#

theres no gpu in the list since im waiting for rtx 3070 or 3080
i know amd is better price/performance, but i dont care

somber musk
#

Intel always
I'd go for a biggest case if I was you tbh, I used to stay only on mid tower cases but since upgrading to a full tower it feels better.
I guess that's mostly your choice, but full tower seems better for any upgrades, you might never know

noble oak
#

ill think about it

#

i have till december anyway

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

somber musk
#

That's fair

pulsar fossil
#

Only semi pc building related

#

But

#

Any suggestions for harddrives to use with a 12-bay NAS?
Been considering the WD Red Pro 12 or 14 TB

sturdy comet
crimson scroll
#

@pulsar fossil personally i like the WD easystores or elements externals for shucking, usually white label drives inside

#

sometimes you have to do an electrical tape mod to get them working properly but it's no biggie and you can get them cheaper than straight wd reds

#

if you specifically want the pros for the warranty that's fine, they do tend to run a bit louder from what i know since they're slightly faster.

#

@noble oak a 2tb hdd is cheaper than 2 1tb hdds and takes up less cabling room

#

and you can get a better cpu cooler and a cheaper SSD unless you're doing a lot of heavy file moving

#

in addition to what theelepel said

pulsar fossil
#

There's also the challenge that the lower end drives are not specced for running in a system with 12 drives @crimson scroll

crimson scroll
#

is that only due to the vibration analysis of the red pros

pulsar fossil
#

I would think so

#

It's for important stuff so it's gotta be reliable

crimson scroll
#

a WD rep says if you have the budget and don't mind the sound get the red pros, otherwise you can put neopren slices under the reds

#

four years old but should be still relevant

naive dagger
#

saucy

pulsar fossil
#

Think I'll stick with the pros then :)

#

Or Seagate Ironwolf pros

crimson scroll
#

have you looked at HGST enterprise drives

pulsar fossil
#

Not yet but they are on the to look at list

crimson scroll
#

backblaze has them at a lower failure rate than seagate in general

#

they've stopped using WD branded drives though, just HGST, seagate, and toshiba

pulsar fossil
#

Some solid stats

#

Thanks

crimson scroll
#

np

unborn kiln
#

This is really interesting

crimson scroll
#

backblaze has really good writeups and data in general

urban current
#

backblaze has really good writeups and data in general
@crimson scroll I use them all the time. I remember when they first started. Love this company that they even made their POD plans available to the public 🙂

red shale
#

do you think a ryzen 5 3600 wit be compatible with a 3070

crimson scroll
#

yeah, it would be

#

whether it's a good match is another story

#

it depends on what you're using the system for, your overall budget, etc.

calm forge
#

^

unborn kiln
#

@crimson scroll I did see someone test it
It preformed pretty well
I cant for the life of me remember who tho

dusk halo
#

xnxcox it is not 😦

#

ı looked at the test

#

if you do not put on 4k it does "darboğaz"

#

ı dont know the english

#

let me look

#

bottleneck or something

#

if you use it with the rtx 3070

#

you can not use half of the gpu

#

so if you can save more money you can find a ryzen 7

crimson scroll
#

What

#

Half the gpu?

#

And @unborn kiln test what

thick glade
#

i want an oppinion for a pc that goes up to 5300$ and if i could add water cooling would be amazing

#

i want valorant to run as good as possible tho

#

anyone that has time =)?

naive atlas
#

All overkill but there is something.

rustic spoke
#

That case is a lil overkill

naive atlas
#

Motherboard too.

noble oak
#

1.2k for a case?

naive atlas
#

32 gigs of ram for gaming is total overkill, but people do it anyway.

rustic spoke
#

And the case supports atx only

#

Mobo is extended atx

noble oak
#

32gb of ram isnt alot considering u can drop 740 on a mobo

naive atlas
#

I just threw something together. Sounded like someone that just wanted to spend a pointless large amount for a pc, ha.

rustic spoke
#

Lmao

#

32gb of ram will probably be the amount u need for cp2077 ngl

naive atlas
#

Really? The req for that game is low?

rustic spoke
#

Huh?

#

Last time I checked it was 16gb minimum lmao

naive atlas
#

Not at all, that is what people thought until the released what it actually is.

#

I honestly don

#

't think it will be that next gen of a game.

#

I think it is the end of this generation rather than the beginning of another.

rustic spoke
#

Yeah maybe

#

Looking at the requirements, I hope I will be able to achieve 100+fps with my 5700xt and i5 8600k oc'd to 5ghz

naive atlas
#

Hopefully!!

#

I heard the game wont be as long as the witcher either.

crimson scroll
#

5300 dollars worth of pc is overkill

naive atlas
#

A lot of the expectations of the game so far have been less than what people expect. But I have crazy high hopes for the game.

crimson scroll
#

Save your money and do something else

naive atlas
#

Absolutely

thick glade
#

saucy idc =))

#

i want water cooling sooo

naive atlas
#

If you have the money and want it to look flashy, that is all you are paying extra for.

crimson scroll
#

Won't go that expensive with a custom loop still

rustic spoke
#

I heard the game wont be as long as the witcher either.
I will replay it many times anyways lol

#

5300 pc only or peripherals also?

thick glade
#

saucy i want 1 tera ssd and 1 tera hdd

#

ik it is still overkill xD cuz that costs only a bit

#

but i gotta buy the shit from pc garage bc amazon and things like that dont deliver in my country

#

wich is sad af

naive atlas
#

That is my build. Does me great.

#

Also have 2k MSI 32 inch.

#

and a 4k RCA 65 inch above it

thick glade
#

i would change the intel i7 with a amkd ryzen 9 3900xt

naive atlas
#

Fair enough. I am an intel guy.

#

Also my power supply is overkill, but I got it used from a buddy cheaper than what I would have actually needed.

thick glade
#

hoo i see

devout wolf
#

why a 3900xt

#

xt cpus are the most useless cpus in existence

rustic spoke
#

The 10900k is better for gaming, ryzen 9 3900x, 3900xt and 3950x are better for work

narrow parcel
#

does anybody have suggestions for what pc i should get im looking at nzxt but which one

#

and i want to stream

naive atlas
#

Honestly, having a second pc for streaming is the way to go if you want to stream.

#

With a capture card.

trim island
#

helloooo

#

i need some help

#

i wanna get my gf a new mouse, but idk what to pick. the rival 3, or the new wireless rival 3. they have basically the same specs except a different wireless sensor, but the wireless has less rgb and its heavier.

#

mention me btw

merry dew
#

32 gigs of ram for gaming is total overkill, but people do it anyway.
@naive atlas really depends on the game :/

#

for example cities skylines with assets can go way past 32GB

devout wolf
#

Honestly, having a second pc for streaming is the way to go if you want to stream.
@naive atlas eh not anymore really

#

not necessary anymore with the evolution of nvenc and x264

red shale
#

if you upgrade your cpu does it erase your stuff

calm forge
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no

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your data is stored in your hdd/ssd

red shale
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ok thanks im new to this

calm forge
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welcome to the hobby

red shale
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whats a good gpu for a ryzen 5 3600

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cause i have a 1650 super but i wanna upgrade

calm forge
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uhm

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probably an rtx 3070

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but the bottleneck will depend on what youre doing

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but it shouldnt be a major issue

fallow bay
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The new 4000 CPUs are coming right?

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From ryzen

plain hound
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Can put more storage in my computer without changing something to it?

calm forge
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The new 4000 CPUs are coming right?
@fallow bay yeah

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so are the new ryzen gpus

fallow bay
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@plain hound you mean like without hard drive change?

calm forge
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Can put more storage in my computer without changing something to it?
@plain hound like adding an extra hdd?

plain hound
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Ye

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Yes

calm forge
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uhm

fallow bay
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Delete temp files

calm forge
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if youre just adding more storage nothing is gonna change

plain hound
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Okay

calm forge
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apart from how much storage you have

plain hound
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Do i have to put it on the motherboard or?

fallow bay
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Nah

calm forge
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Do i have to put it on the motherboard or?
@plain hound if its an ssd you can mount it on the motherboard

fallow bay
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If an hdd

calm forge
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but if its an external ssd there should be space where you can mount them on the back

plain hound
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Okay

calm forge
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if its an hdd your case should have hdd cages

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so just put them there

red shale
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what is bottle necking

calm forge
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and plug them in using sata power and whatnot

fallow bay
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CPU can't keep up with gpu

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Or vice versa

calm forge
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bottle necking is when one component is overpowering the other

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yeah

red shale
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0.53% is this bad

fallow bay
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No

red shale
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ok thanks

calm forge
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no

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thats actually pretty good

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for how powerful the 3070 is

fallow bay
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Yeah

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Wait

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3070 out?

calm forge
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uhm

red shale
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no thats for the 2080 ti

calm forge
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let me check

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oh the 2080ti

red shale
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ye

calm forge
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you shouldnt get it

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with next gen gpus around the corner

fallow bay
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Yeah

calm forge
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3070 is better than the 2080ti at half the price

red shale
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ik in just wanted to see what it would be

fallow bay
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Cheaper and better

calm forge
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yeah

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so

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with the rtx 3070 the bottleneck should be lower

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in theory

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because the bottleneck of the r5 3600 and a 2070 super is around like 3 percent

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so

fallow bay
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Will the 4000 ryzen CPU be the same cost?

calm forge
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the r5 3600 should be able to handle the 3070

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Will the 4000 ryzen CPU be the same cost?
@fallow bay im not sure

fallow bay
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As the 3000?

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@calm forge k

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I reckon they'll keep it cheaper

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That's AMD's style

calm forge
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@red shale the 3070 is coming out in october

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so just wait for a ittle bit

fallow bay
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Yeah

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But might not get it during the first sale

calm forge
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yeah but for the gpu side of amd

fallow bay
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Too many people

calm forge
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its gonna be hard to be nvidia

red shale
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ok no this was for my friend cause he want6s to buld a pc i dont have the budget but he does

calm forge
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oh

red shale
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but thx

calm forge
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np

fallow bay
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Tell him to buy it a little later

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Components might get cheaper

red shale
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ok

fallow bay
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With next gen

calm forge
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yeah

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right now people are selling their 2080tis for like 400-600

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so

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if he wants to get the 2080ti he can go for it

fallow bay
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My friend bought a 2070 super

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Like a month ago

calm forge
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but i'd wait for the new gpus

fallow bay
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I feel bad for him

calm forge
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My friend bought a 2070 super
@fallow bay fat rip

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i was gonna buy the 2070 super for my bui