#💻-building-a-pc | SteelSeries | Page 64

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 4:20 AM

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or usb if you're only using it for a short amount of time

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or just buy an ethernet cable

pine talon Sep 10, 2020, 4:23 AM

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I have an ethernet cable, but my router would just be no where near my pc.

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Would a powerline adapter work?

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 4:49 AM

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it would but performance wildly varies depending on how your house is wired

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 4:49 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RRXgRk Found a 1440p monitor that's pretty good for its price. It's fine though since I'll cover the monitor.

System Builder

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 4:51 AM

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what about this monitor, spend the difference on a 10600k/3700x https://pcpartpicker.com/product/b8VD4D/acer-vg271u-pbmiipx-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-vg271u-pbmiipx

Acer VG271U Pbmiipx 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor

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@noble oak and i assume you're getting a 3070

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 4:55 AM

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yup

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 4:56 AM

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case seems to be out of stock

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choose one of these instead

Corsair 220T Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wj4BD3
Bitfenix Nova Mesh TG - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KgbCmG
**TD500 Mesh **- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gfn8TW
be quiet! 500DX - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3W6qqs
P400A Digital - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QdXYcf
P500A DRGB - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GmhmP6
Cooler Master NR600 - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbqhP6
Lancool II Mesh - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PmZzK8/

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Not a shocker it's out of stock, it's popular. I'll take a look at those

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Putting a 2070 Super from Nvidia to hold the slot of the 3070 since it's the same price at the moment

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 4:59 AM

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i just added it as a custom part

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which case did you choose

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Probably gonna wait for the P400A to become in stock, 3070 didn't launch anyway so I cant build yet

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:02 AM

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okay

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Anyways, caught the flu so I'm gonna head to bed. Thanks for the help

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:02 AM

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i'd suggest not planning so far ahead; prices change everyday anyway

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oh oof, see ya. Hope you get well soon o/

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:03 AM

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that ram should be 6 bucks cheaper

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inflation everywhere

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:04 AM

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would be worth if there was rgb : )

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:04 AM

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meh

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:04 AM

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lol

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:04 AM

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it would be a decent price for fast rgb ram, yeah

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:05 AM

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mhz?

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:05 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/63pqx6

System Builder

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:05 AM

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3600cl16

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:05 AM

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list def needs some fixing

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:05 AM

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didn't check the secondaries

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oh

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that's not the one i was looking at

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:05 AM

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the ram is meh i guess idk

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:05 AM

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for 57 bucks?

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58

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hard to do better

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maybe the tforce vulcan

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but i'd be fine spending around 60 for 10ns ram

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:06 AM

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it's intel too, ringbus doesn't require fast/low ns ram, it still gets a decent boost out of it tho

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:07 AM

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isnt intel dead?\

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:07 AM

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nah

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:07 AM

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jk

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:07 AM

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has the best gaming chips still

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:07 AM

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thats a joke

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:07 AM

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you never know

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this chat isn't the most tech literate

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:07 AM

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true

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typing on 0.4 actuation sux

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alright thats better

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:08 AM

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modest apex pro flex

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:08 AM

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lololol

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:08 AM

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meh

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:08 AM

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totally not intended

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:08 AM

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overpriced imo

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:08 AM

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lol i got it technically for 11 dollars

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not joking

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:08 AM

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not a bad deal KEK

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:09 AM

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i bought an elite controller and it broke in 1 and a half months

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with the warranty

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so i got the money back and put it towards the keyboard

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:09 AM

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so...you didn't technically get it for 11 dollars

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you spent the same amount of money

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:09 AM

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technically

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technically

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:09 AM

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the technical standpoint considers every aspect of how much money you actually spent

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:10 AM

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on the recipt its 11 dollars

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yeah

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:10 AM

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you need to include the old receipt

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:10 AM

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yeah then i wouldnt see this 11 dollar illusion : )

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:10 AM

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if you have X in your wallet, you spend 180 on a controller and it breaks, and you put that money towards the new keyboard, it's still 180+10=190 out of your wallet

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:11 AM

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in canadian prices*

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but yeah

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:11 AM

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i didn't mention units

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that changes nothing

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:11 AM

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i paid $65 for my apex 7 tkl kekGiggle

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:11 AM

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savage

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i love these names

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on the user list

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:12 AM

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okay?

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not general chat though

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:12 AM

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infinity fabric on monolithic is great

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:13 AM

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you think i should just OC my ram to 3400cl14 and ignore the errors?

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:13 AM

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lol

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idk im not a tech nerd

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:13 AM

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errors? what's are those? HR_DoggoSpaz

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:13 AM

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no idea

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:13 AM

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it's got errors on 3200cl14 just not that many

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:13 AM

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should i oc an i7?

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:13 AM

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which i7

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:13 AM

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depends

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:14 AM

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7700k

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:14 AM

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yes

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:14 AM

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yeah i dont upgrade

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:14 AM

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if you have a board that supports it

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:14 AM

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^^

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:14 AM

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and an adequate cooling solution

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and adequate wattage

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:14 AM

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kaby lake is uh LMAO if you can't overclock it

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totally not experiencing that myself

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:14 AM

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should get a ryzen 5 2600 and oc to max

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jk

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:15 AM

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the 2600 are hit or miss for OC

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:15 AM

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ryzen doesn't scale as well with overclocks

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:15 AM

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mine can barely do 3.8

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:15 AM

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i think thats the best idea

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:15 AM

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honestly best idea

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:15 AM

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if i want 3.9 or higher i have to push real close to 1.35v soc

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:15 AM

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or ryzen 7 for that RGB "cooling"

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:15 AM

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or just...buy an id cooling se for $40

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:15 AM

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everything needs to be RGB

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:15 AM

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rgb cooling and better than downdraft

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:16 AM

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tower coolers ftw

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:16 AM

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and AIO than?

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:16 AM

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depends on which AIO

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:16 AM

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aio's aren't necessary on like 95w cpus tbh

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also depends on which one like he said ^^

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:16 AM

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pretty much everything is situational

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:16 AM

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depends on which AIO
@crimson scroll

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Kraken nzxt or somthing

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:16 AM

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120mm AIOs can get beat by most air coolers

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:16 AM

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which kraken

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:16 AM

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can a leak happen from watercooling?

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:16 AM

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yes

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:17 AM

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lol i knew it

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:17 AM

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i mean, yeah

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if you use water, there's always a chance of a leak

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:17 AM

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alright time to get the most watercooling

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Kraken Z73 is overpriced as hell for the screen

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:17 AM

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yup

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it's just an x73; which is already overpriced with a screen

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:18 AM

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yea

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maybe the Kraken X53 ?

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:18 AM

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nah

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:18 AM

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if you're going with an AIO my recommendations are
EK AIO
EVGA CLC (loud if you don't manage fan speeds)
Arctic Freezer II

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:18 AM

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if you want 280mm or higher, EK aio and arctic freezer II

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evga clc has best cooling potential of the ones GN has tested, but is 63dba compared to around 40 for the liquid freezer II

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and db scaling isn't linear

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it's exponential

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:19 AM

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📎 shopping.png

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steelseries probably took after this

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screen=50$ +

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:20 AM

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no way steelseries didn't invent the display???? crazy

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:20 AM

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yea

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:20 AM

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you know steelseries was founded first, right

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:20 AM

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wow

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:20 AM

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maybe i dont check timelines

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:20 AM

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people should do their research

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:20 AM

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it's kinda general knowledge in a way

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:20 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-dancing-gif-15260858

Tenor

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:20 AM

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alright time to go to google

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:21 AM

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it's not that general but i'd look it up if i was gonna compare companies

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i don't know the exact date that cooler released

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and i don't know what steelseries products he's comparing it to

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:21 AM

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yeah i just looked up steelseries one day and the year 2001 stuck to me

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:21 AM

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i mean the screen concept

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not the company itself\

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:21 AM

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screen on what

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:21 AM

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the cooler

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:21 AM

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steelseries doesn't make CLCs

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:22 AM

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im talking about the screen on the apex 5 to apex pro compared the screen on the cooler

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they both have screens

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:22 AM

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...

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:22 AM

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yeah very good comparing

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:23 AM

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nzxt invented displays Kapp

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:23 AM

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https://www2.razer.com/au-en/licensed-and-team-peripherals/star-wars-the-old-republic-gaming-keyboard

Razer

Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ Gaming Keyboard by Razer - Adaptive T...

Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ keyboard features ten dynamic adaptive tactile keys, multi-touch LCD track-panel & extreme anti-ghosting for multi-key press destruction.

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i don't remember when this came out

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but it's been a thing

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:24 AM

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im being abused by saucy send help

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:24 AM

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it's not abuse

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:24 AM

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guess they made the screen lol

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:24 AM

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you're just kinda putting out statements and i'm correcting them

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:24 AM

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when was it made

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:24 AM

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that's a neat keyboard

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:24 AM

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it mentions skyrim, cs, tf2

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i can already tell its old

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:24 AM

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wait thats a touchpad?

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:25 AM

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https://wccftech.com/review/razer-star-wars-republic-gaming-keyboard-review/

Wccftech

Rizwan Anwer

Razer Star Wars: The Old Republic Gaming Keyboard Review

The Keyboard will be a dream come true to the hard core MMORPG players who are willing to go the distance for it, for others there are better options.

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has a review from june 2012

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:25 AM

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crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:25 AM

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my father's old thinkpad laptops also had reactive strips on the keyboard

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not quite lcd like the macs these days

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but the precursor to that

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:26 AM

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what do yall think about the 3070 being about the same or more powerful than the 2080ti for less than half the price

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:26 AM

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don't know if it's actually true yet

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but it's not surprising

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:26 AM

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wait nvidia didnt show the specs yet?

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thought they did

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:27 AM

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well

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:27 AM

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prob fake idk

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:27 AM

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all we know is what nvidia has to say about their own gpus

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:27 AM

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not fake

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:27 AM

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i'm waiting for reviews

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:27 AM

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just carefully picked data

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:27 AM

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i knew it

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:27 AM

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but again, not surprising

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970 beat 780ti

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1070 beat 980ti

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and this time 3070 beat 2080ti

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:27 AM

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good point

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:27 AM

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3070 isn't extremely cheap; 2080ti was extremely overpriced

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:28 AM

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exactly

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thats what im thinking

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the 1080 and every gpu before that wasnt overpriced

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or was it

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:28 AM

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prices have gone up faster than inflation for equivalent tiered gpus

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:28 AM

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700

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:29 AM

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?

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:29 AM

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the 1080 on release was 700 or something around that

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:29 AM

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yeah

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and the 980 launched at 550

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:30 AM

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so there is an inflation with the 2080 but not that much compared to the 980 to 1080

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but more compared to the 980 to 1080

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sorry i had a stroke

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:31 AM

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the 2080 launched at 700

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:31 AM

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rlly?

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:31 AM

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the gtx 1080ti also launched at 700

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:32 AM

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oh i must have been looking at the founders edition then

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:32 AM

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i am looking at founders

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:32 AM

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tf

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for me its 1200

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:32 AM

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for the 2080ti

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oh wait i'm not looking at founders

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:32 AM

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and not just price conversion

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:32 AM

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but point still stands

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you're looking at the 2080ti

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all my prices are in usd

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:33 AM

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i know

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but 700 usd to cad is still only 900+

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:35 AM

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anyways, would be nice to see xx70 cards back at 350

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:36 AM

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1070 2070 3070?

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:36 AM

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yes

molten basalt Sep 10, 2020, 5:37 AM

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1070

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for life

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:37 AM

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lol

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:37 AM

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1080ti owners got the best out of their money

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:37 AM

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honestly

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:37 AM

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if they bought it for $700 at release they could still get $400 for it now

molten basalt Sep 10, 2020, 5:37 AM

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jk

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its all about the 750

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:38 AM

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2070s launched at 500

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:38 AM

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the card or the price?

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:39 AM

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both?

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2070s launched at $500

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confusedDog

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:39 AM

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you can still sell the 2070 super for like 400ish

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so you don't lose as much as the 1080ti owners

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obviously they haven't owned it as long

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but

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:40 AM

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yeah

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:40 AM

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100 per year is not bad

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i'm hoping to turn a profit on my 1080

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:42 AM

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how easy is it to build a pc ive only bought prebuilts (overpriced) so far

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:42 AM

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how competent are you

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can you follow manuals

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and youtube videos

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:43 AM

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i think im competent

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:43 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhaATaghK_4

YouTube

Linus Tech Tips

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▶ Play video

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:43 AM

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then should be fairly easy

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:43 AM

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still possible

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:43 AM

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dayum

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:43 AM

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i mean

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ltt knows how to build

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:43 AM

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and he had no one helping?

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:43 AM

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I could probably do it given a couple of hours and everything set up so i know where stuff is

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:43 AM

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idk didn't watch the video ¯_(ツ)_/¯

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:44 AM

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anyways

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if you read the instructions

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it's like legos with fewer parts

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:44 AM

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and less force used; except for EPS and 24-pin

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:44 AM

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ive heard of that before

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:44 AM

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i wouldn't say less force

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stock amd cooler

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ram

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:44 AM

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oh true PepeLaughAU

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:44 AM

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super overtorqued thumb screws from the factory

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IO shield

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:44 AM

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stock amd cooler on flimsy motherboards GWcorbinMonkaGIGA

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:45 AM

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somebody made a list of common pitfalls for first time builders

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i'd look that up as well as you're building

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:45 AM

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msi bx50 mb bad or good?

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:45 AM

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bx50 isn't a mobo

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which model specifically

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:45 AM

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b450

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thats what i meant

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:45 AM

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which model

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b450 is a chipset

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doesn't tell me the exact model

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:46 AM

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alright\

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:46 AM

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msi makes lots of b450 motherboards

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:46 AM

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1 sec then

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:46 AM

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B450-A Pro [Max]
B450 Gaming Plus [Max]
B450M Gaming Plus
B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
B450 Tomahawk [Max]
B450M Bazooka
B450M Bazooka Plus
B450M Bazooka V2
B450M Mortar [Titanium/Max]
B450M Pro-M2 [Max]
B450M Pro-M2 V2
B450M Pro-VDH
B450M Pro-VDH Max
B450M Pro-VDH Plus
B450M Pro-VDH V2
B450M-A Pro Max
B450I Gaming Plus AC

ah yes not that many; only 17

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granted some of these are revisions

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:47 AM

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i wish companies made better naming schemes

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:47 AM

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yeah

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:47 AM

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the m distinction is nice

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and i

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:47 AM

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b450 tomohawk thats what i was thinking

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:47 AM

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now just make it basic, intermediate, advanced or some version of that

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and have corresponding vrms and features

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you can do better for the price it's at right now

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can get a b550m pro4

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:48 AM

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for which cpu?

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^^

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even a x470 gaming plus max is cheaper than a tomahawk

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:48 AM

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idk im purely speculating

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:48 AM

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well

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it depends on the features you need

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there isn't really a best for everything

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there's almost always a tradeoff

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:48 AM

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true

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:49 AM

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cost, vrms, usb ports, fan headers, bios, rgb software

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how old are you right now? 15?

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it sounds like you're interested but don't have the money to make your own build

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:49 AM

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alright imma go out and be honest

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:50 AM

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I was gonna guess younger based on how you type

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but didn't want TOS

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:50 AM

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neato

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:50 AM

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cool well

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making lists now isn't a good idea for practicality, since prices change a lot

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however

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:51 AM

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i know that

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:51 AM

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making lists is great practice for adjusting to the market

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and figuring out what pairs together

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:51 AM

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thats what im doin

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:51 AM

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so i'd recommend sticking around and looking at builds we recommend and why

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:52 AM

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2 yrs from now there will prob be new prices and items

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:52 AM

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2 months from now too :p

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:52 AM

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yup

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:52 AM

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also if you learn to communicate clearly what you mean to say, and do your research, you'll be doing better than 90% of people

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:52 AM

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mean to say what exactly??

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:53 AM

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when i asked you about the bx50 for example

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:53 AM

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does this thing -> EK-AIO 240 D-RGB fits in a 120/140 mm case?

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:53 AM

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I had to walk you through it

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@lean quarry sounds like no. what case specifically

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 5:53 AM

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yeah i didnt know there were more items with b450 in its name than the mb

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Corsair iCue 220T TG Black

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:53 AM

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because a 120mm/140mm case sounds weird to me

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:53 AM

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it will fit

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but 220t is choked

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the airflow variant is better

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:54 AM

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i thought this was the airflow

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:54 AM

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the 220t isn't a 120/140mm case either

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:54 AM

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TG

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it's not the airflow one

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:54 AM

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iCUE 220T RGB Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Smart Case — Black

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you can get TG and airflow

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but he didn't specify

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see this is what i mean

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:54 AM

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TG is normally the non-airflow version

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:54 AM

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about being specific

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:54 AM

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https://www.megekko.nl/product/2013/375143/Midi-Tower-Behuizingen/Corsair-iCue-220T-TG-Black-Midi-Tower-Behuizing

Megekko

Megekko.nl - Corsair iCue 220T TG Black Midi Tower Behuizing

Koop nu de Corsair iCue 220T TG Black Midi Tower Behuizing bij Megekko. Voor 22:30 besteld, morgen in huis! Ook op zondag!

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:55 AM

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links are the best

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:55 AM

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oh okay, that is the airflow variant

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:55 AM

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yeah that's the airflow

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:55 AM

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btw watch this before you get a 220t and an AIO, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFsQsY7lNiU

YouTube

Alex Krastev

Building in a Corsair 220T Mid Tower: What NOT To Do

Buy this case with my amazon referral which helps support the channel: https://amzn.to/2O2tNsC

Support Me Via:

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crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:55 AM

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https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Mid-Tower-ATX-Cases/iCUE-220T-RGB-Airflow-Tempered-Glass-Mid-Tower-Smart-Case/p/CC-9011173-WW

iCUE 220T RGB Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Smart Case — Black

The CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB Airflow is a compact mid-tower ATX smart case with a high airflow layout and three included SP120 RGB PRO fans for spectacular RGB lighting controlled out-of-the-box via CORSAIR iCUE software. Compatible with CORSAIR iCUE

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you can see the specs here

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says it fits up to a 360 rad in the front

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:56 AM

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you can't put a rad at the top without low profile ram*

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:56 AM

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no way

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godddamit

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:57 AM

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my friend (video i linked above) didn't plan ahead and had that problem

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his aio didn't clear his ram

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:57 AM

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also his tubes are at the top

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and his pump will be at the very top of the whole loop

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:57 AM

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that's a h lmao KEK

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he has a custom loop now

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:58 AM

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i wanted to put the AIO on the top of the case

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:58 AM

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overkill: very
reason why he has so much RGB is because he makes profiles for every single iCUE device to exist (and razer now)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjBUTVbx07E

YouTube

Alex Krastev

EPIC $6000 Threadripper Corsair Build

Here is the full part list for this new build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8QWfzN

Support Me Via:

PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/AKrastev
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/AlexKrastev

Join Me On Discord: https://discord.gg/2HJ5UsW

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crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:58 AM

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smaller cases require more planning

lean quarry Sep 10, 2020, 5:59 AM

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anybody knows a nice case where a AIO fits on the top?

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:59 AM

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there's a lot

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rafee link your list

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also what's your budget

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and the rest of your parts

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also, the 10400 is now 180 compared to the 210 of the 3600...

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might start recommending that even though it's locked

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 6:02 AM

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rafee link your list
which one

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 6:03 AM

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the case list for budget around 70-90

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 6:03 AM

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ah okay

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Corsair 220T Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wj4BD3
Bitfenix Nova Mesh TG - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KgbCmG
**TD500 Mesh **- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gfn8TW
be quiet! 500DX - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3W6qqs
P400A Digital - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QdXYcf
P500A DRGB - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GmhmP6
Cooler Master NR600 - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbqhP6
Lancool II Mesh - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PmZzK8/
Cougar MX330-G Air - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7fn8TW

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rip neo air

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oos again

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 6:05 AM

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hmm never mind, 3300x still exists and beats locked ram 10400

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intel's really not making it easy to recommend their stuff

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 6:06 AM

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10400 cheaper than 10400f

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lojik

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 6:06 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_xftS6ydXQ

YouTube

Linus Tech Tips

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devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 6:06 AM

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that's a 465x

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 6:07 AM

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i mean how linus built a pc with his daughter

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 6:07 AM

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yeah...?

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good marketing

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obsidian 500d lmao

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 6:08 AM

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oh shoot it is lmao

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the x thingys in the front reminded me of a 465x

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 6:08 AM

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a lot of their cases are kinda similar'

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him explaining the optane

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the kid is cute, the marketing works

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 6:10 AM

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i mean your not wrong

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she even shouted out the sponsor

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marketting at its finest

merry dew Sep 10, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Hello!If anyone could make me an itx nas/media streaming (tvpc) build it would be highly appreciated. I live in finland, and the budget is very low.

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 6:43 AM

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what would your budget be

tough hazel Sep 10, 2020, 12:54 PM

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ok im trash at building pcs and all i mainly know is that cord go there and this cord go here, i have a hard limit of $1000 (USD) and i found a few pcs that fit the budget but im looking for more options in case of a budget drop. Anybody able to help me?

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 3:17 PM

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just gaming?

tough hazel Sep 10, 2020, 3:17 PM

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yeah

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and then after that i would need to find a good monitor that is compatible with it

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 3:18 PM

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is the monitor included in the 1k budget

tough hazel Sep 10, 2020, 3:19 PM

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idk i might add it or i might not, depends on the price of the pc

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 4:28 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s3ybFG buy the gpu used, you can get it for around 375

System Builder

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or get a 5700xt

tough hazel Sep 10, 2020, 5:03 PM

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thanks

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i hope it can run crysis

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 5:32 PM

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FE has lights hypers

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ehj_XQcWsAA16JL?format=jpg&name=900x900

tough hazel Sep 10, 2020, 5:33 PM

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but, can it run crysis?

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Yes

naive dagger Sep 10, 2020, 5:45 PM

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No

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Not even 144p 10fps

tough hazel Sep 10, 2020, 5:46 PM

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then can it run crysis remastered part 2?

naive dagger Sep 10, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Not even close

tough hazel Sep 10, 2020, 5:46 PM

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understandable, have a nice day

naive dagger Sep 10, 2020, 5:47 PM

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👍

tough hazel Sep 10, 2020, 5:47 PM

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or will you have a nice day

molten basalt Sep 10, 2020, 6:03 PM

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oh look its my pc

mortal patrol Sep 10, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Would it be a smart idea to just get a 3100x or 3300x and upgrade to Ryzen 4000 when they launch?

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I'm already planning to sell my GPU and PSU in combo, I could put that CPU in that too, or keep it as backup

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 6:26 PM

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eh

mortal patrol Sep 10, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I'm not getting a 3700x like planned cuz I need a new mouse, so ig I could go really cheap and use the money for a 4700x

devout wolf Sep 10, 2020, 6:31 PM

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why not just wait until launch and get a 4700x

mortal patrol Sep 10, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Because I'm struggling on a laptop that almost overheats by looking at it

tough hazel Sep 10, 2020, 6:37 PM

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same bro

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Bro

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3090 with a 10980XE cant handle crisis

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Wdym

tough hazel Sep 10, 2020, 6:38 PM

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ah okay so what about nvidia geforce 780 and intel core i5

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8gb ram

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Easily yes

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Probably 8k at 240fps

tough hazel Sep 10, 2020, 6:39 PM

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ok then all i need is a monitor for it

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Ofc

tough hazel Sep 10, 2020, 6:39 PM

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so where do i get 100 dollars at...

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hey can i rob you?

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Mmmm

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Sure

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But my wallet is empty

tough hazel Sep 10, 2020, 8:28 PM

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then i can take the wallet and sell it for 5$

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Could someone help me find a good pc under 1000

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Please I’m trying to play on pc bc of better FPS ping ect

tough hazel Sep 10, 2020, 9:07 PM

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i found tons if you want some ideas

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 10:08 PM

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@noble oak i linked one above

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s3ybFG buy the gpu used, you can get it for around 375
or get a 5700xt

System Builder

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Ty

noble oak Sep 11, 2020, 2:53 AM

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PES_Hypers

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im getting the rtx 3090

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3080*

noble oak Sep 11, 2020, 3:18 AM

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nice

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im prolly gonna get the 3070 or 3080

golden musk Sep 11, 2020, 4:36 AM

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my pc starts a housefire when I run minecraft '

fallow bay Sep 11, 2020, 5:26 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jh3JYH

System Builder

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Views?

crimson scroll Sep 11, 2020, 5:41 AM

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meh

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for that price, get the b550m pro4

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buy a single kit of 2x8gb and i'd avoid vengeance ram

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that ssd is expensive and you can get a 500gb ssd for 50-60 that you won't notice the performance difference with

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that case has okay airflow but isn't very modern

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and with a 1660s you should be pushing 1080p 144hz on your monitor

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what's your budget

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also you can just run unactivated windows

fallow bay Sep 11, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Yeah

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Is the b550 the same price

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As the b450 one

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I want a WiFi motherboard

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My budget is 1k-1200

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You can go up to 1250

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But not more

frigid phoenix Sep 11, 2020, 6:53 AM

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Or you can activate windows through CMD if you don't want that watermark

fallow bay Sep 11, 2020, 6:55 AM

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Yeah

crimson scroll Sep 11, 2020, 7:30 AM

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you can add a pcie wifi card to a build

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K9LPtp something like this, wait for deals and 3xxx release since all the prices are kinda jacked up right now

System Builder

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the dell 2721dgf will use the same panel as that LG and should drop to 350, especially with a student discount, for example

fallow bay Sep 11, 2020, 8:07 AM

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Aight thank you

frigid phoenix Sep 11, 2020, 2:46 PM

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I'm looking for a cheap laptop that can run AutoCAD with ease, so far I found acer aspire 5 a515-44-r3rs, should I look for anything else or this is the best solution I can get, ofc with 16GB of ram

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It has ryzen 5 4500U
16gb of ram
512GB NVME drive

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Everything else is not that important as I will use it mostly with charger plugged in

crimson scroll Sep 11, 2020, 2:51 PM

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what price

frigid phoenix Sep 11, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Tbh don't know how much, prices of laptops are verry different everywhere so I just can show the laptop

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Around 800$ here but we have 23% tax

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Let's say 650 without tax?

crimson scroll Sep 11, 2020, 2:54 PM

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well, my acer store doesn't have the r3rs

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only the r4m5

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and i'm not sure on conversion rate but that price seems...okay

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the x360 with a 4700U, 16gb, 500gb ssd was selling for around 800 as well but again

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sales happen

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https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-synthetic-and-gaming-performance-leaked

VideoCardz.com

WhyCry

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 synthetic and gaming performance leaked - V...

We have new benchmark results straight from reviewers. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 performance The official embargo on GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition review lifts on Monday. We have been contacted by many reviewers trying to verify their results, and since we already have the d...

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leaks, so again, big grain of salt

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if this is true, it again demonstrates how much you're wasting your money at 1080p with the high end cards

frigid phoenix Sep 11, 2020, 3:02 PM

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x360 with 4700U is over 1.2k here 👀

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Then I guess I'll go with the acer. Seems best for that job

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Also I will be able to run some less demanding games on it with pretty good frame rate

crimson scroll Sep 11, 2020, 3:03 PM

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yeah

noble oak Sep 11, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Is this good i want the mic and boom arm for sure but i have 500$ or less to spend for every thing else is it good if not tell me and tell me what i should get instead

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Just want any recommendations on what stuff I should substitute

crimson scroll Sep 11, 2020, 9:05 PM

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pcpp is your friend

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easier than posting screenshots

naive dagger Sep 11, 2020, 10:14 PM

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^

boreal horizon Sep 12, 2020, 3:19 AM

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and pcpp will show u better prices

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Not always

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It can bug out

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Doesn’t work with most the stuff i need

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Check at the bottom

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 3:39 AM

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And im not building my friend is gonna give me his old pc has all the good stuff in there

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Should be able to select all the accessories

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 3:39 AM

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I know how to work pcpp

tender turtle Sep 12, 2020, 6:08 AM

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amazon prebuilts are dog 💩

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you're better off getting a gaming laptop or if you're rich a pc

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😄

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 8:09 AM

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eh

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wouldn't say gaming laptops are necessarily cheaper than desktops

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for the same performance, definitely not. you're paying for "convenience"

lean quarry Sep 12, 2020, 8:14 AM

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🧐 aa i see

lean quarry Sep 12, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Is the gigabyte series AIO good or thrash?

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 4:44 PM

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meh

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expensive because of the screen

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:35 PM

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hows this for a 800 dollar -ish build

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:36 PM

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bad

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for gaming

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also bad for airflow

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what are you doing with it

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:36 PM

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games

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:37 PM

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well, i shouldn't say bad

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it's subpar

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:37 PM

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any suggestions then

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to make it better

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:37 PM

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no point in getting the 2600 when the 3600, 3300x exist

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:37 PM

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there is

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:37 PM

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for gaming?

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nah

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:37 PM

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price to performance

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:37 PM

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yeah the 2600 is worse price/performance than the 3300x

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:37 PM

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prices for a 3600 are way to high

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:38 PM

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and worse performance than the 3600 in both productivity and gaming

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sure

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but like i said

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3300x

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if you needed the cores for productivity and were on a tight budget maybe

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:38 PM

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3300x is unavailable lol, only reason i cant get it or the 3100

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the market is kinda trash right now with both prices and availability

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:39 PM

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look at the 10100 then

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a 2600 for 140 is not a good deal

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:41 PM

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1600 and the i3 seem abt the same

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10100 is only 4 cores 8 threads, isnt 4 to 6 a big upgrade tho

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:41 PM

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no

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it's more than just threads and cores

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also frequency/IPC

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:42 PM

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whats better 4 cores bust faster clocks or 6 cores and slower

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:42 PM

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it depends

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:42 PM

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im into racing games like forza

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is it more gpu or cpu bound

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?

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if cpu bound than cores matter

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if gpu bound than clocks matter

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:43 PM

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it's gpu bound

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:43 PM

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okay so i3 is better

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better value to

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:43 PM

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again, depends

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the 10100 is locked

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:44 PM

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ooh

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:44 PM

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it won't make sense to buy a z490 motherboard with it

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:44 PM

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rip

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:44 PM

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and so it'll be harder to upgrade in the future

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:44 PM

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than amd it is

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:44 PM

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but if you don't plan on upgrading the system for a long time

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:44 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:44 PM

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then it can offer more value to you now

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everything is predicated on price/performance/features that are relevant to you

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:45 PM

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no i plan on upgrading i and i completely forgot how bad z490 is

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like the whole platform when upgrading

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:45 PM

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well

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am4 is only officially supported to next gen

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so if you plan on upgrading to that, get b550

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:46 PM

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i mean the next upgrade will probably be x570, but i dont have the cash to spend on a x570 mother board

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:46 PM

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so...b550

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you probably don't need the extra pcie lanes or the vrms

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:46 PM

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i dont see any reason to get b550 over x570

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:46 PM

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if you have a good b550, for most people there's no reason to go to x570

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why do you need x570

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it's a bigger number, ooh

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:47 PM

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ahh i see, but for so little might aswell get x570

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:47 PM

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for so little what

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:47 PM

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like the difference between x570 and b550

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u still get more features for not that much more

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:48 PM

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features you're not going to use

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:48 PM

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i might in the future

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:48 PM

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whatever, your money ¯_(ツ)_/¯

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:48 PM

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lol

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:48 PM

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everyone and their grandmother thinks they're gonna stream and video edit in 4k

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:48 PM

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lol, im not

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i just wanna play games

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at 240 hz

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lol

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:49 PM

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then you don't need x570

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b550 has pcie 4.0 support if that's even necessary for 3xxx cards

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:49 PM

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well, i also do art stuff, like photoshop

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:49 PM

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and?

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how does x570 benefit you over b550

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:49 PM

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not really, but if i want the pcie lanes

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for expansion maybe

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dual gpu lmao

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:49 PM

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lots of b550 have two m.2 slots

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lots of b550 have MANY pcie slots

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:50 PM

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yeah i see ur point

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:50 PM

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my b350 has five

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If you're building like a 2k+ system, sure, go x570. Why not, might as well get high end for all your parts and balance the system

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If you're building a 8-900 system for gaming? nah

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:51 PM

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okay i see

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but what abt my cpu

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:51 PM

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how soon are you buying

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:52 PM

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maybe a month

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or sooner

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:52 PM

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wait and see if 3300x comes back in stock

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:52 PM

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okay

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:52 PM

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also 3xxx availability might shift 2xxx card prices

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:52 PM

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true

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:52 PM

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and who knows, maybe the 3600 will drop to 155 again

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:52 PM

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highly doubt that

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:53 PM

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there's other stuff in there we need to improve too

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:53 PM

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what abt my gpu, should i stick with the 2060 KO

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also i wanted more space

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so i just went with a 2tb and a 500 gb ssd

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:53 PM

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that's fine

#

but you can get a sn550 for the same price as the wd blue

#

and i would skip the corsair ram and get t force vulcan or gskill

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:54 PM

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but look how cheap it is

#

the ram seems really good

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:54 PM

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you can filter to 10ns ram and get 3200cl16 16gb for 51 bucks

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which is cheaper

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:56 PM

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this one

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hmmm not a common brand tho, reliability?

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 6:58 PM

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it's fine

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i like the t force vulcan ones for a dollar more

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 6:59 PM

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is everthing else good

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like the pwer supply and case

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i picked the steal legend because its reliable, im not gonna cheap out on a 70 dollar board and hope it doesnt break

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:01 PM

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case is bad

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psu is...fine

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:02 PM

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what case then

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nzxt h500

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:03 PM

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bad airflow

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:03 PM

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corsair 275r?

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:09 PM

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i'd look at the 220t airflow, p400a, p500a, nr600, lian li lancool II mesh, td500, be quiet 500dx, metallic gear neo air, bitfenix nova mesh

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:09 PM

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uhhhhh, thats allot

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nr600 seems like the best

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the thing is, my components dont run so hot, that they need tons of airflow, but ill probably change to the nr600, because its bigger

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for compatibility sake

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so is my build still sub par lol

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:14 PM

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you're talking about upgrading though

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upgrading means hotter components

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:14 PM

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yeah i know

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:14 PM

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post your new build

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:14 PM

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thats why im switching to the nr600

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i can add more fans latter too

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RXbc3t

System Builder

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:16 PM

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switch the ssd to the sn550

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:16 PM

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okay

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:16 PM

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and wait for 3xxx cards to come out

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no point in paying 300 for a 2060

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and we'll deal with the cpu and mobo later

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:17 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MpHJvW

System Builder

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this better

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:17 PM

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nah get the 500gb sn550

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should be also 59.99

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:18 PM

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its 77 dollars

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for 500gb

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tcbc3t

System Builder

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i found the 60 dollar one

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also b550 prices are inflated

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:32 PM

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b450 steel legend is meh

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:32 PM

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idk what to get though

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i dont want a super cheap mobo

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something good

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but b450

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:32 PM

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steel legend is just a pro4 with one less high-side FET

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:32 PM

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b550 is really expensive right now

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:32 PM

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so get pro4, it's cheaper and better

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b550 won't work with 2600

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it doesn't support 1st and 2nd gen

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:33 PM

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oh

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didnt know that

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:33 PM

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i'd change the PSU too

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i assume you're trying to keep it under $850?

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:33 PM

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yes

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actually 800 at first

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:33 PM

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i see

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:34 PM

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but it went over

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it was 825

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but the server told me to make some changes

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and it went up to 840

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📎 unknown.png

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u said to get this one right @devout wolf

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:35 PM

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yeah

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:36 PM

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yeah that one will work

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:36 PM

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i'm editing the list rn

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:36 PM

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oh

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VcRCsk

System Builder

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:36 PM

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price didn't change, components are better tho https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LDkzb8

System Builder

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:36 PM

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well here the build so far

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:36 PM

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storage is eating up quite a bit of the budget

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:37 PM

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yeah i know

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should i just go with a 1tb ssd

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or a 500gb ssd

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or what to do?

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:37 PM

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1tb ssd wouldn't be that much cheaper

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:37 PM

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yeah i know

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:37 PM

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only 500gb ssd will cut down costs by a bunch

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but you lose 2tb of storage

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:38 PM

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maybe just cut out the hdd

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Can always go with ssd and drop hdd, add it later

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:38 PM

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^^

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:38 PM

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thats what i meant

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:39 PM

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drops far below 800 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hRgqK4

System Builder

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:39 PM

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I would look at used cpus too

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:39 PM

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this psu is only $4 more btw https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cTfhP6/be-quiet-pure-power-11-500-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-bn901

be quiet! Pure Power 11 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:39 PM

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since zen3 is coming soon tm

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:39 PM

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but a better unit overall

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:39 PM

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hmmm, okay

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:40 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/brRCsk

System Builder

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:40 PM

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so is this the final build

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:40 PM

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nah

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you're not buying for another month

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:40 PM

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LOL

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:40 PM

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it's a guideline

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prices probably won't be the same by then

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:41 PM

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i think the case is alr

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:41 PM

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you also don't want to buy something and then find out it's defective past the return window

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:41 PM

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i dont want to spend money on a case

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:41 PM

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well

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you should

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:41 PM

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i meant , one just for looks

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i just need something decent

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 7:41 PM

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cases are about more than looks though

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yeah the nr600 is decent

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 7:42 PM

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probably not gonna change it

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ill leave probably change it when i upgrade my pc later on

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 7:50 PM

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it's not a bad case tbh

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it's my favorite case because of how cheap it is, it's airflow and its looks

graceful summit Sep 12, 2020, 10:31 PM

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add an extra fan to the nr600

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it performs much better

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📎 image0.jpg

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 10:34 PM

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ooh that's nice

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 10:48 PM

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okay

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il do that

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vmTNXv

System Builder

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well, its 2 dollars over budget

devout wolf Sep 12, 2020, 11:12 PM

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good choice of fan

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it's kinda expensive for a p12 tbh

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5-pack is $30, $6 per fan

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 11:24 PM

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shipping

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the ones on amazon have shipping because they're sold directly from arctic and so they ship from arctic's warehouse instead of comingled stock

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:30 PM

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i looked at the 5 pack, but do i really need a 5 pack, i dont even know if i have enough fan headers

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i got prime so it should still be free shipping

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:34 PM

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GUYS HELP

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my pc crashed and it wont turn off

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:35 PM

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turn off psu

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reset button on case or mobo?

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how can u not turn it off?

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how did it crash exactly

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:36 PM

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I press power button and wonymt tirn off

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ok so

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I was play cod modern warfare

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With a friend and then boom freezes

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everything froze but my keyboard turned off

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:37 PM

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yeah, so just turn of your power supply

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Do i just unplug it

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or turn it off

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:37 PM

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nooo

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turn it off

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:37 PM

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ok

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done

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now what

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:38 PM

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turn it back on

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see what happens

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:38 PM

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ok ok

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hey noah

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also not just that

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:38 PM

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yes

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:38 PM

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umm

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when i turn on pc

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The gpu fans get loud!!!

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and then lower

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:39 PM

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yeah, thats normal

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:39 PM

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once it stayed really loud

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:39 PM

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oh, hmmm

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:39 PM

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so i turned off and on

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:39 PM

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allot of reasons why it could do that

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Cause it wouldnt go away

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Power suply

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:40 PM

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oh no

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dont do that

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:40 PM

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dont do what

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:40 PM

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u cant just flick on and off your pwer supply like a light switch

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u have to wait a bit

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:40 PM

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no i turned off and on my pc

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:40 PM

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okay

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:40 PM

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and yeah i did wait a bit

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:41 PM

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then what?

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:41 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

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Should i turn this to extreme

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or just quiet

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:41 PM

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depends what ur after

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:41 PM

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cool

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:41 PM

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quite, optimized, or extreme power

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:42 PM

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quite

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quiet

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:42 PM

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okay

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:42 PM

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wheres optimized

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:42 PM

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make a fan curve uo to 1700 rpm when it hits 90 c

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that should be good

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:42 PM

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huh

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I put them both at extreme

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:43 PM

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u can adjust the slider on the graph

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:43 PM

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so they reach 1500

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really

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:)

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:43 PM

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yeah

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u can just pick balanced

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that would be easier

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:44 PM

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ok

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Ai put it at extreme

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Seems fine here

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:45 PM

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okay

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what gpu do u have

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Rtx 2070 super

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:45 PM

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which card maker

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Im saving up for a 3080 ti :D

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nvidia

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:46 PM

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okay u can download there software and change the fan curv on the gpu

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:46 PM

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huh how

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:46 PM

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im pretty sure they have a software

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Wdym fan curve?

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ok so how??-

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:48 PM

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i think the sofware is called nvidia control panel, not sure

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theres a software to change ur fans on your gpu

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:48 PM

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oh it came with my pc thi

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:48 PM

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fan curve means, the fan speed

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and other fan related stuff

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 11:48 PM

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you can just use afterburner

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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oooh thats what its called

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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📎 unknown.png

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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i remeber that now

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yeah msi after burner

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Isnt that to overclock or wut

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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download that

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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you can use it to overclock

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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u can over clock with it

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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and isnt it for mso gpus??

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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and change the fan curv

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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no

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Msi*

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what

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 11:50 PM

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you can use it with any gpu

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:50 PM

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its for any gpu

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:50 PM

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ok ok

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:50 PM

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what it does is allow you to manually change things in your gpu, like clock speed

teal vector Sep 12, 2020, 11:50 PM

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hi

noble oak Sep 12, 2020, 11:50 PM

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uhh hi

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:55 PM

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K so how do i do this

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 11:55 PM

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go to settings

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select fan

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create your fan curve

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Enable user defined software automatic fan control?

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Yes

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 11:56 PM

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yes

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:56 PM

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What should i upgrade it to

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 11:56 PM

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what does your curve look like now

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:56 PM

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also should i overclock me gpu

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how do i know what it looks likev

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My gpu is pointing down

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 11:57 PM

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look at my screenshot

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it shows a fan curve

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since you're on the fan tab, you should see a similar curve

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show me that curve

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Same as urs

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 11:57 PM

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okay

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and is the gpu too loud?

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or too hot

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under load

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:57 PM

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I dont think its too loud

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wait here

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📎 image0.jpg

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So

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 11:59 PM

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windows + shift + s is the screenshot tool

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Not on pc rn

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ans cant

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and cant

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i cant really be on discord so i pretend i text friends

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sometimes

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 11:59 PM

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but...you have the computer open

lavish kraken Sep 12, 2020, 11:59 PM

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huh?

crimson scroll Sep 12, 2020, 11:59 PM

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how are you taking a picture of the fan curve if you don't have the computer

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:00 AM

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What!

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whats a fan curve!! Ahhh

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but what do you mean

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So how do i do this?

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:02 AM

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so like i asked you earlier

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what are you trying to do

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lower noise or lower heat

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Lower heat

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and while doing that overclock it

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Is it possible chief?

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:03 AM

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raise your fan curve then

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:03 AM

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idk how this works

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Never use dir before

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:03 AM

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that means for a predefined temperature, you want a higher fan speed

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:03 AM

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So how to do this?

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:03 AM

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the current curve has your fans at 40% speed at 30 degrees

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so drag it up to a higher speed

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:03 AM

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AGes

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Uhhh

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Too much lower it a bit?

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📎 image0.jpg

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:04 AM

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look at the node at (30, 40)

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Yeah what about it

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:05 AM

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so at a predefined temperature

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you raise the fan speed

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that means keep the node at 30c but raise the fan speed %

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Ok

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:05 AM

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and do that for each node

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:05 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:05 AM

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keep it at the same temperature but raise the speed

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Oops i added 2 nodes to one spot

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Like this??

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📎 image0.jpg

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:06 AM

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yeah

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:07 AM

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And then i apple

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:07 AM

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something like that

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:07 AM

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and what if it isnt good and its loud

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:07 AM

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then you adjust

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:07 AM

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How do i reset it

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:07 AM

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you can go back to the default fan curve

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Oh k?

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Oh k

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:07 AM

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or you can tinker with it to get the settings just right for your scenario

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Ok i applied

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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The other thing you were asking about was overclocking

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so

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download unigine heaven

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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uhh

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Ok

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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then close everything but afterburner and unigine heaven

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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i didnt download the rovatuner

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rivatuner

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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thats fine

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:10 AM

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K

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K its downloading

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ok

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now eut

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ok it downloaded now what

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:15 AM

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now run it

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like I said

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:15 AM

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i have to download and do stuff hold on

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ok im in

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ima put api to direct 12

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since i am a rtx 2070 super

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:16 AM

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show me your screen

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:16 AM

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ok

#

where?

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:16 AM

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all of it

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:16 AM

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but where

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like in chat

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:16 AM

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yes

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post it here

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where else

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:16 AM

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no

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call

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and i screen share

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no mics please k>

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:17 AM

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no

#

kind of rude to just say no and demand a call with screen share and no mic

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:17 AM

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sorry :(

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ok

#

how to screen shot

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im essclue

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:18 AM

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windows + shift + s

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:18 AM

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where would it be

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the picture i took of it

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:19 AM

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you can just paste in here directly

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control + v

lavish kraken Sep 13, 2020, 12:19 AM

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bru

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only 800 kb what takes so long!

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📎 unknown.png

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what do i do now

crimson scroll Sep 13, 2020, 12:19 AM

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change res to 1920x1080