#💻-building-a-pc | SteelSeries | Page 63

devout wolf Sep 3, 2020, 8:30 PM

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it's a Tier B psu, not recommended to use it with a 320W GPU

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also AIBs will likely pull more power

median rivet Sep 3, 2020, 8:31 PM

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What psu brand is top dog these days?

devout wolf Sep 3, 2020, 8:31 PM

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never say that

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brands don't matter at all

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every brand has good psus and ticking time bombs

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even raidmax has a good unit

median rivet Sep 3, 2020, 8:36 PM

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What would you recommend? I should probably go over the 650w seeing as I plan on going up over 32gb of ram at some point and getting an i9

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[It's an editing rig as much as a gaming one because I'm gonna be working with TV]

devout wolf Sep 3, 2020, 8:38 PM

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i mean ram doesn't affect that number at all

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you can go over 650w

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if you do get this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KGxbt6/gamdias-kratos-p1-g-750-w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-kratos-p1-750g

GAMDIAS KRATOS P1 G 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power...

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as sketchy as it looks, that's a great unit

median rivet Sep 3, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Ayyy that's a decent price too

tight ruin Sep 3, 2020, 8:44 PM

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anyone know if this is legit?

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https://www.centralcomputer.com/nvidia-3000-deposit.html

Central Computers

Nvidia 30 series GPU Deposit

Here’s the info for the new NVIDIA 3000 series video cards! We are already working on getting these products in stock, but you want to know how you can get your hands on it. We have two methods: $100 deposit OR Nvidia Alert List!
$100 Deposit: Reserve your place in line for a ...

median rivet Sep 3, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Looks hella dodgy

naive dagger Sep 3, 2020, 8:54 PM

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If you don’t trust it, I’ll buy it for you 😃

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Just give me your credit card credentials

mellow ferry Sep 3, 2020, 8:54 PM

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lmfao

frigid phoenix Sep 3, 2020, 9:44 PM

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If it's a trustworthy shop then go with it if you plan on getting one

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Else, read the rules very carefully so you can sue them for scam in some case

crimson scroll Sep 3, 2020, 9:48 PM

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thats a bad plan

frigid phoenix Sep 3, 2020, 9:51 PM

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I mean, why? If it will be scam then there is very little chance that he will loose his money if he's careful. And if it's trustworthy shop then he will have one reserved RTX. Shops do that sometimes for high demand products

crimson scroll Sep 3, 2020, 9:52 PM

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if it's a scam, you don't want to fight a legal battle to get your money back

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you don't have a legal team

frigid phoenix Sep 3, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Shops in Sweden already sell PS5s to collect information about demand

devout wolf Sep 3, 2020, 9:52 PM

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hiring a lawyer costs more than $100

crimson scroll Sep 3, 2020, 9:52 PM

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if you're not in the EU, consumer protection laws aren't as strong

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"yes, let me walk into this trap and spend a lot of time and money getting out rather than avoiding it"

devout wolf Sep 3, 2020, 9:53 PM

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and plus $100 for a reservation is so bad

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if you're paying $600 for a 3070, why?

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prolly 800 if it's AIB

crimson scroll Sep 3, 2020, 9:53 PM

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I'm not saying all preorders are bad

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although most are

frigid phoenix Sep 3, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Even tesla took 100$ for reserving cars

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So that's not weird

crimson scroll Sep 3, 2020, 9:53 PM

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jesus christ you're not paying attention

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also a $100 preorder for a $30,000+ product, from a company that would be in legal hot doo doo, as opposed to smaller companies with smaller amounts of product value but still taking $100 preorders

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and some tesla preorders were refundable

echo zealot Sep 3, 2020, 9:55 PM

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do you know how long it takes to sue someone

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see you in a few months to a couple years bro

crimson scroll Sep 3, 2020, 9:55 PM

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people think suing is the end all of everything too

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first you meet with the opposition, and you negotiate

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what really happens is first discovery happens

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discovery reveals everything

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very rarely does new information come up in court

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so both sides already know what's up

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whether you settle or take it to court is merely based on how much each party thinks they can get out of the other party and putting on a show for jurors

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it is a terrible idea to go into something with the intention of suing to get your money back, unless you're a really good lawyer who wants to test themself

devout wolf Sep 3, 2020, 9:58 PM

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tfw you spend $30k on suing a company that ran with your $100

echo zealot Sep 3, 2020, 9:58 PM

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😎 cant wait to get evicted

frigid phoenix Sep 3, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Assuming you are the only one who got scammed you are right, they wouldn't try to scam for such a small amount of money because it's not even profitable for them. You can do something called class action with all the people who are scammed. Then costs become smaller for every person and you have higher chance to win as you have proof that you are not only one scammed

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If they wanted to scam little amount of people they would take more than 100$ and they wouldn't say anything about getting money back on website

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It's not weird that they take 100$ to set you in line for product that is not yet released. You pay 100$ less at final price if you reserved it which makes a lot of sense, this way they can also set up all the orders before actual products arrives so they don't have to waste time on setting up preorders for full price

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Once again, if it's a shop that is well known it's 100% safe to buy something like that and may be good idea as new GPUs will be high demand product

echo zealot Sep 3, 2020, 10:09 PM

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or just

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wait for it to release and buy from a more known seller

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it is that simple

crimson scroll Sep 3, 2020, 10:14 PM

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yeah

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that part i agree with

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but your part about reading the rules to sue if they scam, that's stupid

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just read the rules and don't do it if the rules are bad

naive dagger Sep 3, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Saucy saucy saucy

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Raichu raichu raichu

frigid phoenix Sep 3, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I ment something little bit different than what that looked like but nvm, don't really know how to say that rn lol

wispy carbon Sep 4, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Hey

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My keyboard doesn't work on my pc

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But on my laptop it works

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I've tried all usb ports

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Checked dtivers

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Drivers

crimson scroll Sep 4, 2020, 3:12 AM

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did you make sure your front panel headers are properly connected

coral cosmos Sep 4, 2020, 3:33 AM

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When you say all USB Ports, are you saying all back and front?
Do other USB Devices register normally?

crimson scroll Sep 4, 2020, 7:25 AM

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what is that naming lmfao

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static pecan Sep 4, 2020, 7:32 AM

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Bruh

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It's almost like they're trying to turn their CPU names into calculus equations lmao

crimson scroll Sep 4, 2020, 7:35 AM

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it does look promising...but i don't really care about laptop cpu performance right now

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hopefully that carries over to 11th gen desktop

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holy crap go back

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this is the opposite of good marketing, it's hard to remember and doesn't carry over previous branding

crimson scroll Sep 4, 2020, 8:10 AM

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Hmm... Corsair 4000d has front mesh option. Could be another contender in the sub 90 range for high airflow case

merry dew Sep 4, 2020, 11:33 AM

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I really wanna do a powerful max power small pc build

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like probs s-atx or sumn

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not gonna do itx

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I wanna get da top of the pop

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devout wolf Sep 4, 2020, 12:01 PM

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what is that naming lmfao
@crimson scroll they talked more about amd than their own cpus in the presentation lmao

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i m i t a t o r s

crimson scroll Sep 4, 2020, 4:23 PM

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because they can't even remember their own name

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and because "benchmarks bad, let me use things that are benchmarks but i'm not calling them benchmarks"

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the product looks good, just promote the product

naive dagger Sep 4, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Saucy saucy saucy

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Raichu raichu raichu

astral pollen Sep 4, 2020, 7:19 PM

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hey all.

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does anybody knows if an arctis pro wireless in white is in stock ANYWHERE?! cannot find any but ebay resellers at like $650+, it's nuts.

noble oak Sep 4, 2020, 7:38 PM

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i dont know

noble oak Sep 5, 2020, 12:19 AM

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who can help me make a good pc build for r6s

fluid fern Sep 5, 2020, 12:21 AM

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@astral pollen Not to my knowledge, I checked everywhere and the best I could find was one on amazon that was in "acceptable" condition, which in my experience tends to be closer to "Very used" than anything else.

crimson scroll Sep 5, 2020, 12:21 AM

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@noble oak budget and res/refresh rate?

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and only siege, or anything else

noble oak Sep 5, 2020, 12:22 AM

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only siege and Cold war

crimson scroll Sep 5, 2020, 12:22 AM

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and the first question?

noble oak Sep 5, 2020, 12:22 AM

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hmmm

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i really don't know anything a refresh rates but whatever better ig

crimson scroll Sep 5, 2020, 12:24 AM

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how much money do you have to spend on the machine

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do i need to include peripherals or a monitor

noble oak Sep 5, 2020, 12:25 AM

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nope i have a monitor

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1.5k or 2k

crimson scroll Sep 5, 2020, 12:25 AM

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okay, so what are the specs of your monitor

noble oak Sep 5, 2020, 12:26 AM

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idk lemme check

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i use msi lemme check my box

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actually ill just get another monitor

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@crimson scroll

crimson scroll Sep 5, 2020, 12:35 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wQ3zBZ now the gpu is the icky part, pretend it's a 3070. You don't really need such a strong gpu for siege...but it's in the budget. It doesn't really make sense to pick up a cheaper card at our budget. If you wanted, I could make an esports build that's quite a bit cheaper, closer to 1k or less, and would still be fine for siege

System Builder

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the build i've linked just lets you play most games you want at 1440p 144hz, high to ultra settings

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you could get a 1660 super for around half the price, a case for half the price, etc. and it would still churn out insane frames on siege

noble oak Sep 5, 2020, 12:42 AM

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i mean

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I do want want a new monitor plus a stronger gameplay, Do whatever it takes it to make it the best

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brb

crimson scroll Sep 5, 2020, 12:42 AM

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then go with the list i linked

noble oak Sep 5, 2020, 12:45 AM

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k

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wait when does the 3070 come out?

crimson scroll Sep 5, 2020, 12:50 AM

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october

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if you need a gpu now, buy a used card as a stopgap, then sell it and buy the 3070

noble oak Sep 5, 2020, 1:03 AM

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ok

solar isle Sep 5, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Yea I got a 1660 and then the next day the 3070 got announced

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So imma sell that and put some extra in just to get that 3070, might get a 2nd one when that becomes available and bridge them

crimson scroll Sep 5, 2020, 3:18 AM

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why?

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why not just buy a 3080 or something better

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nvlink is usually more trouble than it's worth, if it's even available for the cards

static pecan Sep 5, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Also SLI is literally dead and only supported by the 3090

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So you'd just be throwing money away at that point instead of just buying a 3080

devout wolf Sep 5, 2020, 11:11 AM

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So imma sell that and put some extra in just to get that 3070, might get a 2nd one when that becomes available and bridge them
@solar isle you can't even bridge them

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Only the 3090 has an nvlink bridge

clear jacinth Sep 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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why bridge them, it doesn't really boost your performance by that much. it's just a waste of money imo

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I mean it sure looks cool

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but performance wise spoken it really doesn't improve by that much

devout wolf Sep 5, 2020, 1:04 PM

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yeah

polar inlet Sep 5, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Not very many games have that much support for SLI

crimson scroll Sep 5, 2020, 4:50 PM

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lmao i think he gets the point, four people have said the same thing

naive creek Sep 5, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Hey guys I'm on a $800 budget can u guys recommend me stuff

noble oak Sep 5, 2020, 9:37 PM

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is 1tb ssd and 2tb hdd overkill?

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is this a good intel build? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rdhanekula/saved/#view=kL7v3C

Saved Part Lists

idle whale Sep 5, 2020, 9:54 PM

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I want a desktop but tbh I don’t wanna build one but I want something that’s good for the price I don’t have a crazy amount of money but I do know I atleast want a 1060-1660 graphics

noble oak Sep 5, 2020, 10:14 PM

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it is cheaper to build a pc, you can build one with the same specs as a prebuilt one for at least $200 less

idle whale Sep 5, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Mind helping me?

crimson scroll Sep 5, 2020, 10:52 PM

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@noble oak no. old cpu on a dead end motherboard, bad ssd (comparatively for the price), buying a new 2070s is bad

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@idle whale what's your budget

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@naive creek what are you going to be doing with your build

noble oak Sep 5, 2020, 11:04 PM

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thx

idle whale Sep 5, 2020, 11:04 PM

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I don’t know tbh but I’m broke as hell

solar isle Sep 5, 2020, 11:47 PM

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I thought to use 2 video cards you needed to bridge them emoji_23

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Has big PC tricked me into thinking bridging is the way to go?

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📎 Screenshot_20200905-165010_Chrome.jpg

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eyeshake

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Isn't that a bridge for the 30 series tho

crimson scroll Sep 5, 2020, 11:53 PM

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bridging is not the way to go

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no point in using two gpus for gaming

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@idle whale i can't make you a build without knowing how much you can spend

idle whale Sep 6, 2020, 12:10 AM

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True

static pecan Sep 6, 2020, 12:19 AM

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According to Nvidia the only 30 series GPU that supports bridging is the 3090 @solar isle

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Even then, SLI is useless for gaming anyways. It just creates more problems as a majority of new games aren't coded for multi-GPU and even if there was a game that worked with SLI you wouldn't see a big enough performance bump to justify spending that kind of money

median rivet Sep 6, 2020, 12:28 AM

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I wouldn't really say SLI is useless, but at the same time I'm incredibly drunk, it does create a lot of issues but you can only hope they've fixed it with the 3090, if they haven't then its gg for SLI

static pecan Sep 6, 2020, 12:35 AM

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The benefits for gaming are virtually non existent anymore. I'm not saying it isn't useful for other applications or 3D rendering work, etc.

solar isle Sep 6, 2020, 12:39 AM

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We'll see if it gives it more support in the future. I'm also planning on streaming and doing hardcore illustration/animation work

crimson scroll Sep 6, 2020, 12:47 AM

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also no benefit there

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if you wanted, you could do a dual pc setup with that kind of money

static pecan Sep 6, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Dual PC would make more sense than SLI for what you're planning to do

idle whale Sep 6, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Can someone tell me why my laptop keeps locking itself when I play certain games?

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Occasionally when I play gta and gang beast

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Fortnite too

crimson scroll Sep 6, 2020, 4:12 AM

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what do you mean locking itself

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going to the lock screen?

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or shutting down

devout wolf Sep 6, 2020, 4:49 AM

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dual pc isn't even necessary anymore because of how H.264 has evolved

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a pc with a nvidia gpu is enough

mild quiver Sep 6, 2020, 6:05 AM

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@noble oak its alright, I would go with an AMD without a cooler and the biggest thing:

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You Bought W1iNDOWS

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(it wouldnt let me spam caps)

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1.5k for that system is overpriced imo especially considering that the case isnt even in the factor

devout wolf Sep 6, 2020, 6:06 AM

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it's not alright p

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dead platform

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and the 10700k beats that cpu

crimson scroll Sep 6, 2020, 6:07 AM

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also like i mentioned, you can do better ssds for the price and buying the 2070s now for 500 is not a good idea

mild quiver Sep 6, 2020, 6:39 AM

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i mean also, a 2070 might be way overkill if youre just playing some games

crimson scroll Sep 6, 2020, 6:48 AM

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yeah...?

devout wolf Sep 6, 2020, 6:48 AM

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some games can push a 2070 super tho

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at 1080p

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and with ray tracing, it will just suffer lol

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pretty sure i made a list for them but they just ignored it so h

tight ruin Sep 6, 2020, 6:56 AM

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anyone have keyboard recommendations?

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also red or brown switches?

crimson scroll Sep 6, 2020, 6:57 AM

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neither

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gateron yellows

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or zilents

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we can't really just pick a switch for you, it depends on your preference

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as for keyboard recommendation, i recommend building your own

tight ruin Sep 6, 2020, 6:57 AM

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i just dont want it to be too loud

crimson scroll Sep 6, 2020, 6:57 AM

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then both of what i said would be pretty quiet

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its hard to give a recommendation for mice and keyboards because that's really personal preference

wicked river Sep 6, 2020, 12:47 PM

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could someone take a minute to review this

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2fTrzN

the reason there is no hd is because the case is too small to fit it effectively

System Builder

wicked river Sep 6, 2020, 1:30 PM

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^ its not 100% finished

crimson scroll Sep 6, 2020, 4:39 PM

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/npx2tp i'd rather go with this

System Builder

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well hci memtest is throwing up a million errors at 3400cl14

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maybe 1.44v and cl14-15-15-30 will work

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somehow getting worse cinebench scores on 3400cl14 than 3200cl14, help

idle whale Sep 6, 2020, 5:23 PM

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going to the lock screen?
@crimson scroll it goes to the “locking” screen then basically turns off but when I turn it back on I’m still in discord and my game is still open but I’m internet turned off so I disconnected from a server

crimson scroll Sep 6, 2020, 5:30 PM

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check your event viewer

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find critical events at the time of the crash and then find other errors right before it

winged topaz Sep 6, 2020, 5:40 PM

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i got a new case for my pc and everything is in the pc lights and fan turn on for 1 second but then turn off again can anyone help?

crimson scroll Sep 6, 2020, 5:47 PM

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check your cable connections

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make sure everything is plugged in properly, no shorts anywhere to your motherboard/case, etc

idle whale Sep 6, 2020, 6:05 PM

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its a laptop @crimson scroll

crimson scroll Sep 6, 2020, 6:07 PM

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okay

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it'll still have event viewer

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that's a windows thing

wicked river Sep 6, 2020, 6:10 PM

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/npx2tp i'd rather go with this
@crimson scroll why b550?

System Builder

crimson scroll Sep 6, 2020, 6:22 PM

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upgradeability

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for similar prices

vestal bluff Sep 6, 2020, 6:40 PM

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does anyone have any experience with the NZXT 210i?

unborn kiln Sep 6, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Isnt that mini itx?

idle whale Sep 6, 2020, 6:58 PM

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how do i use event veiwer

crimson scroll Sep 6, 2020, 7:19 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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event viewer (local) > critical

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right click, view all instances of this event

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check the time of the critical error that corresponds to the shutdown and then go back to the normal errors and find events happening right before that time

devout wolf Sep 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

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does anyone have any experience with the NZXT 210i?
@vestal bluff what do you want to know about it

crimson scroll Sep 6, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Rafee i think my imc sucks

vestal bluff Sep 6, 2020, 7:38 PM

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@devout wolf wondering if it would have the space and cooling for a 3070 or if i should go up to the 510

devout wolf Sep 6, 2020, 7:39 PM

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well both have the same amount of airflow

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none

vestal bluff Sep 6, 2020, 7:39 PM

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alright, so probably look for something else?

devout wolf Sep 6, 2020, 7:40 PM

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yes

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Corsair 220T Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wj4BD3
Bitfenix Nova Mesh TG - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KgbCmG
**TD500 Mesh **- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gfn8TW
be quiet! 500DX - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3W6qqs
P400A Digital - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QdXYcf
P500A DRGB - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GmhmP6
Cooler Master NR600 - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbqhP6
Lancool II Mesh - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PmZzK8/

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NR600 has the H510 look, if that's what you want

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except it has airflow, and 2 more fan slots

vestal bluff Sep 6, 2020, 7:41 PM

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alright, awesome. Thank you!

long briar Sep 6, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Should I build an open pc since it’s cheaper and has a better temperatures than a closed fan case? I’m new to building btw

crimson scroll Sep 6, 2020, 8:23 PM

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more dusty and louder though

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it's easier to move stuff around with an actual case as opposed to a test bench, if you ever want to change where you have your pc

median rivet Sep 6, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Not really building a pc but pc related - Have internet, it's not possible to set it up in my room - Would it be worth getting some kind of router/extender thing so I can ethernet to my pc? Or do I get a wifi card?

unborn kiln Sep 6, 2020, 9:17 PM

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WiFi card or powerline

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I have used both before

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Powerline definitely wins if you have thick walls and poor signal
If you have decent signal then you can use a WiFi card

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I like the powerlines tho
Note electrical interference can happen

median rivet Sep 6, 2020, 9:20 PM

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I have a TP-Link AC1200 atm, but the speed of the internet drops significantly when I'm using it, so I was just going to try and get my housemates to pitch in and use it as a normal extender to reach the garden too - The speed increases by like 200mbps when I use my phone as a tether

unborn kiln Sep 6, 2020, 9:21 PM

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A repeater will not speed up your network

median rivet Sep 6, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Nah I know just wasnt expecting such a massive drop with it

unborn kiln Sep 6, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Id say you would still experience a similar drop

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When does the speeds drop
Are you streaming movies?

median rivet Sep 6, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Yeah will be, I'm a TV student so I'm gonna be working with large files on the regular

unborn kiln Sep 6, 2020, 9:23 PM

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What's your current network speeds?

median rivet Sep 6, 2020, 9:24 PM

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When not using the extender It's up at 300down 10up, sticks that up until I connect to the extended network where it goes down to 70ish

unborn kiln Sep 6, 2020, 9:24 PM

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And are you running fibre?

median rivet Sep 6, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Yeah

unborn kiln Sep 6, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Ok

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I recommend checking out a powerline "repeater"

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Won't notice much of a drop

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Unless the Microwave is on or something big like that...

median rivet Sep 6, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Nope, when I tether to my pc using my phone's networking option whatever it is it reaches the 300 just fine

unborn kiln Sep 6, 2020, 9:28 PM

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A powerline, to explain it basically converts your electrical cables into network cables. Or it uses electrical cables to carry network packages

Sort of like a ethernet cable

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I think that will be the best for you

median rivet Sep 6, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Do you need to do any electric work with that? Or is it just plugging it in sort of thing?

unborn kiln Sep 6, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Plug and play

devout wolf Sep 6, 2020, 9:47 PM

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+1 for powerline, very cool

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performance varies depending on how your house is wired

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but it's a great concept

unborn kiln Sep 6, 2020, 9:54 PM

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I agree

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performance varies depending on how your house is wired
@devout wolf true, don't want to do it if you have multiple distribution boards for upstairs and downstairs for example

devout wolf Sep 6, 2020, 9:55 PM

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exactly

unborn kiln Sep 6, 2020, 9:55 PM

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But you should definitely do some research 100% a great concept

median rivet Sep 6, 2020, 9:59 PM

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I've also noticed that the localhost or whatever it's called, 19216801 won't load up, just gets stuck on an infinite loop no matter how I connect to the internet over wifi, haven't tried ethernet directly to the router because macs are stupid

devout wolf Sep 6, 2020, 10:02 PM

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localhost is 127.0.0.1

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and for your router login page, it can be 192.168.0.1, 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.8.1

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depends on your gateway

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or even something completely different

median rivet Sep 6, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Yeah, it never loads up, followed the ip given by the company

spiral sage Sep 7, 2020, 3:01 AM

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Hello

pine talon Sep 7, 2020, 4:09 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tjcm6R

System Builder

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How is this build looking?

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And is there a website to see the fps that Id be running for this set build?

noble oak Sep 7, 2020, 4:38 AM

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hm

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 4:57 AM

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@pine talon don't get a cooler for a 3600, better motherboard options are available, do not get lpx. Wait for RTX 30 series and get a better case

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and get an SSD, this is 2020

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also no psu in the list

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gZFHk6

System Builder

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what is your budget btw? CPU is kinda holding the GPU back

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i'd recommend going for a 3700x or a 4600/4700x if you want to wait

pine talon Sep 7, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Around 1000

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I probably will end up waiting, Im not in a rush

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Im looking to buy all my parts by cyber monday and black friday for the latest

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@devout wolf do parts usually go on sale during black friday?

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 5:26 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 5:57 AM

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yeah that list is...not great

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although, why a 250gb ssd for $50

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 5:58 AM

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oh oof the price went up

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idk, not feeling it today https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tGzCf9

System Builder

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$1000 is a weird spot for a 3070

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:07 AM

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bleh

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:07 AM

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a 3600 holds it back and a 3700x goes overbudget

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:07 AM

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go back to b550m pro4

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:07 AM

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aight

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might as well lol $150 over

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:07 AM

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just swap to 10600k at this point lol

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:07 AM

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true

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:07 AM

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if we're going 3070 and just gaming

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i don't know the context of this build

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:08 AM

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And is there a website to see the fps that Id be running for this set build?
probably implies it's for gaming

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:08 AM

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wish the 3060 was coming out soon

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maybe a 2070s used, that would put us under budget

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:10 AM

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yeah

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:11 AM

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and sell it for minimal loss, buy a 3070

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OR use evga step-up and only pay the difference

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:12 AM

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that's pretty cool

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:13 AM

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did he ever say it was a strict 1k budget

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yuck...ds3h

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i guess to make it fit the budget you gotta compromise

pine talon Sep 7, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Not strict, im flexible with it

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:20 AM

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i guess to make it fit the budget you gotta compromise
@crimson scroll idk tbh that's more corner cuts than i'd personally be comfortable with

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ram that has no guarantee of being able to handle its own xmp profile

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os drive with no dram

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DS3H is like $93 tho

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:20 AM

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yeah i personally wouldn't go with that build

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:20 AM

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he could've gone b450 pro4 or -a pro max

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:24 AM

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i would love to be able to make better versions of the pcpp build guides

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play around with the parametric selections and stuff

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but the prices don't show up for half the stuff unless you click on it

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china's got some cool looking gpu designs

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better than in the us

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:35 AM

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yeah pensiveWobble

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waifu gpus are back KEK
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/326775215839248384/752415214347092068/thanks_i_hate_it.jpg

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:36 AM

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i don't like the waifu cards but i like the ones that do more than just "red!" "black!" "rgb gamer shroud"

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:36 AM

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angles

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g a m e r

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:36 AM

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somebody should really come up with a front to back layout for gpu cooling solutions

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:37 AM

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actually most of the cards are now bricks lol

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:37 AM

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you'd orient the finstacks as vertical lines pointing from top to bottom (when gpu is installed), have fans at the front, and exhaust out the back

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it'd take up more space but would have better airflow implications especially for air cpu coolers

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everything is just front to back

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:37 AM

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somebody should really come up with a front to back layout for gpu cooling solutions
yeah that seems pretty easy to implement, just a blower design but with an centrifugal fan and an open front

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:38 AM

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the issue is you have a smaller fan so it's hotter and louder

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alternatively, make a right angled vertical gpu mount, make the pcb more square than oblong, and have no backplate

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you'd basically have a pcb slapped onto a 140mm cpu cooler

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and you can again orient it front to back

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basically like the dual cpu systems

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:40 AM

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interesting idea

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:40 AM

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you run into issues with other expansion cards but if you're just gaming you probably don't care

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:40 AM

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i really loved the Matrix 2080ti

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looked so much better than strix

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and this

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it was a whole closed loop within the GPU

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:40 AM

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interesting

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but doesn't the backplate stop the air from going out

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:41 AM

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think it does, maybe air exits out of the vents on the IO bracket?

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:41 AM

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but the radiator is pointed bottom to top

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and you can't have air exit out the plastic sides

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:42 AM

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oh true

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:42 AM

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assuming intake, the air literally blows from the rad into the vrms and stuff

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and even back onto the coldplate

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i like the idea but you need the fans to be exhaust and it pulls cold air from the sides

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:42 AM

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looks exactly like the strix fans

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so same orientation

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:43 AM

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if you want it to be a rad on the gpu

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:43 AM

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unless they spin backwards

noble oak Sep 7, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Quick question Ryzen 7 3700x comes woth a stock cooler?

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With

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:43 AM

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yes

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the wraith prism

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:43 AM

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nah backwards spinning wouldn't cause the airflow to be good

noble oak Sep 7, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Noice

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:43 AM

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yeah

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:43 AM

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so yeah maybe it works? but from my understanding of thermals it seems...suboptimal

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:44 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OzolCFqb4k

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

ASUS Matrix Tear-Down: Radiator Replaces Shroud (2080 Ti)

We were the first to publicly tear-down the ASUS Matrix RTX 2080 Ti, which uses an integrated radiator and CLC inside the shroud for cooling.
Ad: Buy Gigabyte's RTX 2070 Gaming OC (Amazon: http://geni.us/jzJ2)

The ASUS RTX 2080 Ti Matrix is a closed-loop liquid-cooled video c...

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hopefully this says something

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:44 AM

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huh, never saw that video

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:45 AM

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hmm maybe it exits out the side with the power connectors

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:45 AM

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i would have shifted the pcb to the bottom of the card, put the rad in the middle, fans on the top, and have the cards work as exhaust. would work with a liquid cooling cpu setup

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:46 AM

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yeah it's a really interesting concept, could've been done better

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:46 AM

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you'd also need the radiator to have less plastic on the sides, not sure how you'd get liquid in between

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maybe you run some tubes in between the fins rather than on the edges

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:50 AM

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i wonder if there are any cards that provide rgb and fan headers on the card itself like strix

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:50 AM

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probably not a ton

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i want a purple card

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 6:53 AM

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rip color schemes

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everything is now black, white, or red with rgb to replace color schemes

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:59 AM

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i didn't intend for it to happen but my build is completely black and red

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mobo has an led strip but the dimm slots, pcie slots, heatsinks are all red/black

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 7:00 AM

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lol same, my entire pc coincidentally has the 2015 strix gamer theme

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:00 AM

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bought a used 1080, it's got a red and black shroud. bought used ram, black red and silver. cpu cooler, all black/gray

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only other color in there is the seagate sticker that's green and the noctua brown

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 7:01 AM

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they look really good together

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crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:01 AM

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that is pretty good

pulsar fossil Sep 7, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Those are some nice looking parts

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 7:01 AM

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i didn't intend to even get strix parts in the first place

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cause strix™️ tax is expensive

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but hey a miner sold me one for $105 so yoink

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:02 AM

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my motherboard doesn't look nearly as good

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 7:04 AM

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it's a bit simpler, i like it

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:13 AM

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Wew, speaking of other color schemes

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 7:13 AM

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hey orange

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love that color

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but as an accent to black

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ram sticks are thin enough to work as an accent tho

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i'd totally get those sticks if they weren't oloy KEK

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:18 AM

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oloy is fine

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those particular sticks are kinda bad though, 3000cl16-18

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 7:20 AM

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oof

idle whale Sep 7, 2020, 7:25 AM

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Can someone make me a build between 800 and 970 USD?

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With atleast a 1060 or 1660?

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Graphics card

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:30 AM

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for just gaming?

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also there is no reason to get a 1060 unless you're getting it used for cheap

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if you can even find it new

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 7:31 AM

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same for 1660 because the 1650 super is a thing, unless you need the 2gb vram; in that case get an rx 580 8gb

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and the 1660 super is only $20 more

idle whale Sep 7, 2020, 7:35 AM

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For gaming

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I just need something that isn’t trash.

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 7:36 AM

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you can get a lot better for 970usd

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first thing would be to wait for the rtx 3060

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or RDNA2

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:37 AM

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3600 is back at 199 😦

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 7:38 AM

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hngghhhhh

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wasn't that the release price?

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:38 AM

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nah

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it released at around 250

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 7:38 AM

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hmm

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thought that was the 3600x

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confuse

idle whale Sep 7, 2020, 7:39 AM

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See I want to get something sooner then later

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:39 AM

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oh maybe

idle whale Sep 7, 2020, 7:39 AM

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My birthday is coming up on October 26th

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:39 AM

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thats...not soon

idle whale Sep 7, 2020, 7:40 AM

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I know

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Wait when’s the 30 series coming out

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:40 AM

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3070 in october

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3080 and 3090 mid/late september

idle whale Sep 7, 2020, 7:41 AM

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3600?

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3060*

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:41 AM

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not announced

idle whale Sep 7, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Oh

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Well ima go to bed

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:42 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cM8XgJ better bet is to get a used card

System Builder

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also, everything went up in price again

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 7:47 AM

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that's annoying

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:47 AM

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yeah

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case went up by $10

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couldn't find the psus i'd pick for around 60

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 7:49 AM

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feels weird seeing a 1660S in a 1k list

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:49 AM

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you're right

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maybe go to a 500gb ssd, 3200cl16 memory and save 60+15

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then put that towards...i guess a 2060 non super or 5600xt

noble oak Sep 7, 2020, 8:09 AM

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I want to pre order the 3070 so bad....

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 8:09 AM

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don't do it

noble oak Sep 7, 2020, 8:11 AM

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dam you right. I’m just gonna wait till it official releases...

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 8:11 AM

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that and benchmarks

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 8:11 AM

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wait for reviews

noble oak Sep 7, 2020, 8:12 AM

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Oh yea I forgot about that.

pulsar fossil Sep 7, 2020, 8:12 AM

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So I shouldn't have pre-ordered a 3090?

noble oak Sep 7, 2020, 8:12 AM

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You right, ima wait

pulsar fossil Sep 7, 2020, 8:12 AM

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Or two

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 8:12 AM

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flushball

pulsar fossil Sep 7, 2020, 8:12 AM

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Kappa

noble oak Sep 7, 2020, 8:12 AM

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Dude how much was it?

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 8:12 AM

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he's joking

pulsar fossil Sep 7, 2020, 8:13 AM

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I am

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I am tempted though

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 8:13 AM

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one day i'll be able to preorder the flagship card without thinking

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that'll be nice

pulsar fossil Sep 7, 2020, 8:13 AM

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Adult money 💰

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 8:13 AM

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~~and then a card outperforms it in 2 years for half the price~~

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 8:14 AM

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sure

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and then i put it in my htpc

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if i'm that rich, i don't care lol

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i'll sell it for a 200 dollar loss

noble oak Sep 7, 2020, 8:15 AM

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I’m gonna have to settle for the 3070 for my build honestly

pulsar fossil Sep 7, 2020, 8:15 AM

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~~and then a card outperforms it in 2 years for half the price~~
@devout wolf right in the feels as a 2080Ti user

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 8:16 AM

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this is why i haven't bought new

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 8:17 AM

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tbh it was always like this with nvidia

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xx70 beat the xx80ti from the previous gen

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until Turing, the prices were just GWczeWhat

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the more gpus you buy, the more you save

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 8:18 AM

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rtx 2080ti: just buy it

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the steam hardware numbers say almost nobody is using amd gpus or rtx 2xxx gpus lol

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 8:19 AM

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1060 gang unites

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and rx 570/80

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 8:19 AM

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1060 is indeed the most popular card in the survey

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxsBZgHM7CE

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

HW News - Steam: No One Uses AMD or RTX 20 GPUs, NVIDIA Gaining Pow...

Hardware news this week talks AMD vs. NVIDIA GPU marketshare on Steam (and how low AMD RX & NVIDIA RTX 20 are), 15TB SSDs, NVIDIA's push for latency, recaps of major news, and more.
Sponsor: Arctic's Liquid Freezer II 280 on Amazon (https://geni.us/RJBy) or the P12 fans on Ama...

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nvidia reflex does sound interesting, they're sweeping up a whole bunch of companies to work on it

noble oak Sep 7, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Might risk it with the 3000, it depends if I can snag one when it comes out.

idle whale Sep 7, 2020, 5:05 PM

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$630 for this is it worth?

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I can upgrade the ram

merry dew Sep 7, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Not really, 1st gen ryzen is a full no no

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and just 3gb of vram?

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he cant value that

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max 400€

idle whale Sep 7, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Oh yeah I was gonna upgrade that to a 3600 too

merry dew Sep 7, 2020, 5:06 PM

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or dollars if you will

idle whale Sep 7, 2020, 5:06 PM

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I can see if I can negotiate

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 5:09 PM

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ouch

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single channel 3000mhz on zen

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disguzxt

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@idle whale i wouldn't pay more than $350 for that tbh

noble oak Sep 7, 2020, 5:10 PM

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i have a 1600

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but i built my computer with like 0 knowledge and it was a year ago

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 5:31 PM

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first gen ryzen wasn't amazing gaming performance, but was really good productivity and forced intel to start paying attention

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but 1 year ago...meh

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@idle whale didn't we make you a build already

idle whale Sep 7, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Yeah but I’m just kinda looking

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 5:34 PM

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for used, i'd look at https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap

r/hardwareswap

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prices are usually more reasonable

unkempt oyster Sep 7, 2020, 5:49 PM

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im giting APEX PRO RIVAL 600 and ARCTIS 1 WIRELESS

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 5:50 PM

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cool man

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are you pushing or committing

noble oak Sep 7, 2020, 6:08 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rdhanekula/saved/#view=9c978d

Saved Part Lists

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is this a good build?

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about to go to micro center to buy some parts rn so i wanna double check with y'all

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 6:27 PM

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why 3800x

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how much is it at microcenter

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also you should probably be looking at 1440p 144hz with a 3070

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and if you're going to be buying everything but the gpu, then are you going to get a stopgap gpu or just wait

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because having a bunch of parts and no gpu for a month+ seems kinda silly

unborn kiln Sep 7, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Yeah that makes no sense

lean quarry Sep 7, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Will the rtx 3070 be better than the rtx 2070 super

merry dew Sep 7, 2020, 7:34 PM

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yes

noble oak Sep 7, 2020, 7:34 PM

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ofc

merry dew Sep 7, 2020, 7:34 PM

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wayy better

supple narwhal Sep 7, 2020, 7:37 PM

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just wanted to appreciate the good work here

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https://tenor.com/view/clapping-leonardo-dicaprio-leo-dicaprio-gif-10584134

Tenor

lean quarry Sep 7, 2020, 7:47 PM

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So i should wait thil the rtx 3070 drops

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 7:48 PM

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yes

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definitely

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the 3070 beats/is on par with the 2080ti

crimson scroll Sep 7, 2020, 7:48 PM

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how much better is up to benchmarks

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take nvidia's marketing with a large dose of salt

rich sedge Sep 7, 2020, 8:52 PM

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i have come back

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 8:52 PM

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welcome back

rich sedge Sep 7, 2020, 8:52 PM

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i have also finished building my pc

devout wolf Sep 7, 2020, 8:52 PM

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awesome

pulsar fossil Sep 7, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Does that mean you'll be sharing pics in #archive-battlestations? :)

naive dagger Sep 7, 2020, 9:01 PM

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It better

dusky crag Sep 8, 2020, 12:10 AM

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is it better to have the set up full ssds or should i get a hdd

crimson scroll Sep 8, 2020, 12:36 AM

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depends on what you're doing

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and your budget

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large file video editing? ssds all the way

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storing files? hdd, ssd for OS

sour onyx Sep 8, 2020, 1:29 AM

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yo, is a intel i5 9600k good

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cuz im just making bulids on pcpartpicker.com

naive dagger Sep 8, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Saucy knows all

graceful summit Sep 8, 2020, 4:11 AM

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would just do a 10600k.

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 4:58 AM

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yo, is a intel i5 9600k good
@sour onyx no

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9th gen intel is a meme, and a dead platform now

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@graceful summit fancy seeing you here fedora

graceful summit Sep 8, 2020, 5:04 AM

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ah yes

raven bridge Sep 8, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Hey guys I'm looking to do a small upgrade on my PC cause it needs the extra power / push in my games. I play games like Valorant & Terraria // I like to multitask (watch videos and play games at the same time)

My build right now:

cpu FX6300 6 Core
gpu R7 250 2gb
mobo GA-78LMT-S2 (rev. 1.2)
psu 450 80+ evga
hdd 1 tb 7200
ram 8 gb 1600 hz

Please and thank you :D

static pecan Sep 8, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Honestly your best bet would be to build a whole new system because all of your components are so outdated there's really no upgrade path for that

lean quarry Sep 8, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Where is the ssd?🤯

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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@raven bridge if you want to get any actual performance out of it, you will have to change out the platform entirely. For now you can stick in 8gb more ram and a used rx 470/480/570/580/gtx 1060 while you save for a bigger upgrade

raven bridge Sep 8, 2020, 5:42 AM

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i only got like 200 to upgrade rn

static pecan Sep 8, 2020, 5:42 AM

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You can find used or sometimes even new RX480s for under $100 easily

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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yup

raven bridge Sep 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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ok so thats 100$ what to do with the other 100

static pecan Sep 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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SSD

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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and ram

raven bridge Sep 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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someone reccomended a ryzen 5 chip

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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you can go that way too

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hmm

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for 200 it's viable

static pecan Sep 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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True

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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but you can only get an APU and a motherboard

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performance will stay the same but you will have upgradability

static pecan Sep 8, 2020, 5:44 AM

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If gaming is the main focus then I'd say do the GPU first then save up for a Ryzen 5 3600, mobo, and ram

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:44 AM

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i'd do ram now probably

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$200 for gpu, ssd and ram

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8gb isn't even bare minimum for gaming anymore

static pecan Sep 8, 2020, 5:45 AM

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But buying more DDR3 would be kinda dumb if you're just going to have to dump it for DDR4 later on

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:45 AM

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i mean 8gb ddr3 is dirt cheap if you know where to look

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but yeah you have a fair point

static pecan Sep 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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It's basically throwing money away since they need a whole platform upgrade

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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8gb is just too less since windows paging+standby cache makes games stutter like hell

static pecan Sep 8, 2020, 5:47 AM

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An SSD will be able to eliminate some that too tho

raven bridge Sep 8, 2020, 5:47 AM

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would selling my entire pc and building a new one be viable at this time

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i wouldn't even get that much back cause this thing is ancient

static pecan Sep 8, 2020, 5:48 AM

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You'd get maybe a few hundred at best

lean quarry Sep 8, 2020, 5:49 AM

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How the f did geforce get the rtx 3070 cheaper but better than the rtx 2080 ti?

static pecan Sep 8, 2020, 5:49 AM

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But if you can live without a PC for awhile then it is kind of viable

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There's still no benchmarks to actually prove that the 3070 is better. Keep that in mind

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:55 AM

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How the f did geforce get the rtx 3070 cheaper but better than the rtx 2080 ti?
@lean quarry by making the 2080ti overpriced as all hell

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they always used to make the xx70 cheaper and better/on par with the xx80ti from the previous gen

crimson scroll Sep 8, 2020, 6:01 AM

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200 can get you a 3300x and a cheap b450

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but everything in that system has to go

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because even if you did get the 3300x and b450, the ram and gpu and hdd would hold you back

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maybe try grabbing a used 1600, b350, 16gb ram, and a 570 with the money you get from selling the stuff you have, keep the hdd and psu and case, and then sell all that once you get more money? you'll get a better experience and you can sell that later for minimal loss

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or for $200, grab a used optiplex + 1050ti or other low profile card

unborn kiln Sep 8, 2020, 7:06 AM

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I would honestly just save up a little more then build a new pc

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Or save up a little more then look for an optiplex as Raichu said

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/gFfL6R

System Builder

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good pc?

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dont mind the nzxt

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just a placeholder for rn

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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wow an actual decent list

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haven't seen that in a while

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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remeber you gave me help and i made it a little personalized

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so thx

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:09 PM

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oh nvm then bad list KEKREE

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jkjk

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uh lemme find the previous list lol

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:09 PM

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i added the os a new fan pack you said get the new rtx 3080 so im getting that and thats the same

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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uhm what about the gpu

mortal patrol Sep 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/The64BitWolf/saved/z22Nqs

First pc build

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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rtx 3080

mortal patrol Sep 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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here is my horrendous link xD

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Fe edition

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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@mortal patrol change the ram

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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fam coolers?

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fan*

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stupid n and m key

mortal patrol Sep 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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I've had the 3200 vs 3600 fight for too long.
I just took 3600 since it's little more

naive dagger Sep 8, 2020, 5:11 PM

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3600 is amazing

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:11 PM

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your gonna overclock it?

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or no

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:11 PM

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I've had the 3200 vs 3600 fight for too long.
I just took 3600 since it's little more
@mortal patrol well here's the catch

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that's 3600cl18

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same as 3200cl16

mortal patrol Sep 8, 2020, 5:11 PM

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ah

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:11 PM

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but with more imc stress

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and plus it's corsair lpx

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rarely ever can it actually reach its rated speed

fossil marsh Sep 8, 2020, 5:12 PM

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3090 is nonsense i think

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:12 PM

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get g.skill ram rafee recomended me that

mortal patrol Sep 8, 2020, 5:12 PM

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damned corsair always

fossil marsh Sep 8, 2020, 5:12 PM

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why would you need to play any game 8k

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:12 PM

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or was that somone else

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idk anymore

naive dagger Sep 8, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Why would you need to play any game 4K

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Or 1080p

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:12 PM

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1080 is great

naive dagger Sep 8, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Yeah ik

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:12 PM

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1440p is greater

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so

naive dagger Sep 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Yeah, and 8k is greater

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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no one needs 8k

naive dagger Sep 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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That’s what people said about 4k

normal patio Sep 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

mortal patrol Sep 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/Cf98TW/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvkb
these?

G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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but 4k is great now

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yea

naive dagger Sep 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Exactly

fossil marsh Sep 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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I'm not trying to say video quality is not important but I think a video card that gives 100 fps in normal settings is enough

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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work station or gaming rig

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/Cf98TW/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvkb
these?
@mortal patrol yup

normal patio Sep 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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One message removed from a suspended account.

naive dagger Sep 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Well people are always gonna want better and bigger

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:14 PM

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has 60hz lg monitor

normal patio Sep 8, 2020, 5:14 PM

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One message removed from a suspended account.

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:14 PM

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1440p

fossil marsh Sep 8, 2020, 5:14 PM

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My thoughts can be because of my country economy too btw

naive dagger Sep 8, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Where

fossil marsh Sep 8, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Turkey

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:15 PM

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https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/Cf98TW/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvkb
these?
@mortal patrol are you making a gaming rig a workstation or abudget gaming pc?

G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

fossil marsh Sep 8, 2020, 5:15 PM

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1 Dollar = 7,49 Turkish Liras @naive dagger

mortal patrol Sep 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Gaming pc, but I have a budget xd
I can't really spend more than €700 on the rest, until I get my job end of October

fossil marsh Sep 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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What is your countries minimum wage? @mortal patrol

mortal patrol Sep 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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The October job would earn me 600-1000

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So I plan to go RTX 3000, get a better PSU, sell the GPU and PSU for €400 in combo (1.5 month usage) and get an AiO

fossil marsh Sep 8, 2020, 5:18 PM

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;(

mortal patrol Sep 8, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Minimum wage for the work I do is 8.19/h for 16+

fossil marsh Sep 8, 2020, 5:22 PM

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sad

mortal patrol Sep 8, 2020, 5:23 PM

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I earned 11/h last summer, and double for sundays KEKW

fossil marsh Sep 8, 2020, 5:23 PM

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that means I'm living for absolutely nothing

mortal patrol Sep 8, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Belgium has nice minimum wage

fossil marsh Sep 8, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Like your minimum wage for a month is equal to Turkey's monthly minimum wage(x7)

mortal patrol Sep 8, 2020, 5:25 PM

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ouch

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 5:25 PM

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our minimum wage here is... messed up to say the least

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wages here are monthly and the minumum is $196/166 eur per month

atomic dust Sep 8, 2020, 5:27 PM

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minimum wage here is 200-500 euro

fossil marsh Sep 8, 2020, 5:28 PM

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262 euro

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but we have to pay gaming console tax :D

unborn kiln Sep 8, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Turkey
@fossil marsh Terkeys GPU prices are insane

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I saw someone complaining about it

crimson scroll Sep 8, 2020, 8:19 PM

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16k? wtf are you guys on

mortal patrol Sep 8, 2020, 8:50 PM

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RTX 3090ti KEKW

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I'm certain it'll come

lofty oriole Sep 8, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I mean the 3090 is basically this generations titan gpu. I want to see if we get a quadro

devout wolf Sep 8, 2020, 10:18 PM

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i mean ofc

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the rtx 8200

crimson scroll Sep 8, 2020, 10:20 PM

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soon we'll be back at the 8800 gt

pine talon Sep 9, 2020, 12:04 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nYrbFG

System Builder

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How does this Build look?

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Give me some improvements to make on to it, tryna keep it at the same price or a little lower, maybe a little higher

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For a gaming pc btw

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 12:38 AM

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go 10600k if you're just gaming

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vengeance memory isn't that great, i guess if you really care about rgb

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you can get a sn550 for the same price as that wd blue

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that case has bad airflow

naive dagger Sep 9, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Hey saucy have you unblocked me

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I have a legit question

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Does the lancool 205 have good airflow

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 12:40 AM

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also don't buy it until you can get the 3070 and reviews are out

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doesn't make sense to have a pc with no gpu

naive dagger Sep 9, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Guess he hasn’t yet

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Rip

median rivet Sep 9, 2020, 12:42 AM

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What you needin?

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Oh nvm I'm an idiot

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 12:49 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sNWQFG

System Builder

pine talon Sep 9, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Thank you Raichu

static pecan Sep 9, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Wait why did he block you @naive dagger?

naive dagger Sep 9, 2020, 1:16 AM

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I pinged him and told a joke

static pecan Sep 9, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Oof

naive dagger Sep 9, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Yeah :/

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 1:58 AM

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@crimson scroll pro4 sucks

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or is pretty bad

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 1:59 AM

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nah

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 1:59 AM

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yes lol

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a 550w psu will not run a 3070

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 1:59 AM

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why not

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people have run 2080ti on a 450w psu

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 1:59 AM

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It’s too low

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LMAO

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they haven’t

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:00 AM

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the high wattage requirements are because people use crappy psus that can't deliver their specified wattage

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:00 AM

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no

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people using a psu with 450w with a 2080ti

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is because they have a bad cpu with it

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so the only power draw is coming from the gpu

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:00 AM

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not true

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:00 AM

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there is no way you could run a 2080ti on a 450w

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:01 AM

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tell me more

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go on

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graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:02 AM

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it’s an AX1600I

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:02 AM

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and?

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:02 AM

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you’re using an antec neo eco

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:02 AM

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it's not drawing 1600w

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:02 AM

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they’re also not using it overtime Im pretty sure

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the quality of it is way better than the antec neo eco lmao

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:02 AM

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this is full load. good thing we're only making a gaming pc

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and the antec neo uses seasonic focus platform

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so...

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anyways

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i've disproved your point

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:03 AM

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nope

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you’re gonna kill his graphics card like that

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:03 AM

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sure i will

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:03 AM

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it’s gonna die because it won’t have enough power draw

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:03 AM

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sure it will

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:03 AM

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yes sure it will

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:04 AM

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okay

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i'm muting you because you refuse to look at actual numbers

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:04 AM

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lmao running away from the truth I see

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:05 AM

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where are your benchmarks showing it's not enough, from a reputable source like GN

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:05 AM

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actually recommending the pro4 unironically

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:05 AM

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it's the cheapest z490 that will stay within his budget

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:06 AM

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don’t have any but if you ask someone else in this discord or others I’m 80% sure they’ll say 650w is recommenced for a 2080ti

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:06 AM

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recommended, sure

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but not required

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and wow

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asking people "in this discord or others"

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real great scientific evidence

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:07 AM

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gaming x is a better choice than the pro4 too lmao

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:07 AM

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without actual data it becomes he said vs she said

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good thing one of us actually has something to back them up

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fine then, go with the prime z490m plus

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the pro4 isn't that good you're right

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wow

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almost like some people can take criticism

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and change their recommendations

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:08 AM

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and why would you recommend him a 10600k if his psu will not support it

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:08 AM

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but it literally will lmao

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are you even looking at the data

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_wtoCBahhM

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

Wasting Money on Power Supplies: How Many Watts You Need for a PC P...

We're testing how many watts you need for the average PC build, testing system load versus power supply 'size.' We're looking into how big a PSU is needed for gaming & work PCs in 2020.
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graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:08 AM

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I’m looking rn

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and it says

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:08 AM

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what an idiot, i'm done with this conversation

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:09 AM

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It’ll use about 430 full load

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you shouldn’t give him the bare minimum for his psu either lmao

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:09 AM

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and i didn't

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:10 AM

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yes you did

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:10 AM

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a 3070 will likely pull less power than a 2080ti

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a 10600k less than a 10900k

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and i put a 550w psu not 450

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can you even process data

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it's not top of the efficiency curve but it'll be fine

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:10 AM

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you have to go with other hardware too I’m highly sure that’s just the power draw of gpu + cpu only

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:11 AM

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oh no! my 100w fans!

graceful summit Sep 9, 2020, 2:11 AM

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there is no way that I believe it would only take 450w to run bare minimum

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but sure he can use it at his own risk

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:14 AM

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next time if you want to criticize, use some actual data or recommendations instead of just making absolute statements you can't back up

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Does the lancool 205 have good airflow
@naive dagger no, if you're looking for that nzxt h510 look but with airflow then go for a Coolermaster NR600

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h https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg6pz7YTxyA

YouTube

Tech YES City

I Tried Running a 3950X and RTX 2080 Ti on a 450 WATT Power Supply...

When I recently bought a 450 Watt Power Supply for a mid-range build, I thought, "just how much power do we really need for most enthusiast Gaming PCs?" And well today we test out the two highest end gaming desktop components with a budget entry level Coolermaster MWE450, whic...

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frigid phoenix Sep 9, 2020, 6:10 AM

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a 3070 will likely pull less power than a 2080ti
Well somehow Nvidia itself commented that most likely our PSUs won't be able to handle new generation, I doubt it will draw less power as it has almost double the efficiency. It's impossible to make GPU with less power draw with that much of performance boost

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Also, how was power draw measured in the benchmarks you sent? By actuall device plugged between GPU and PSU or by some software

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 6:25 AM

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it's a smaller architecture...

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the FE 3070 apparently pulls 220w

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you said it in your sentence

double the efficiency
efficiency = less power wasted

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the 980ti, 1080ti and 2080ti all pull the same power

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but there is clearly a performance boost between them ¯_(ツ)_/¯

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 6:28 AM

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@frigid phoenix gamersnexus is good at explaining their methodology, you can go to their site or watch the video

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 6:52 AM

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@crimson scroll now i know how you feel

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left an argument in between cause they were pulling their numbers from userbenchmark KEK

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blocked KEK

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they were comparing their x5675 to a 3600 cause they have the same core count Facepalm

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 7:13 AM

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wtf

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 7:15 AM

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yike

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frigid phoenix Sep 9, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Then according to all you guys say, why in the hell would Nvidia recommend 650W PSU for card that can be run using 450W? To make you spend extra money on something that you won't use anyway?

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They don't even profit from that

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 7:46 AM

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efficiency and headroom

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and also they don't know what CPU you're using

frigid phoenix Sep 9, 2020, 7:53 AM

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Then why the hell would anyone recommend getting less powerful PSU for almost a top shelf build? Like bruh, why take a risk of putting 550W PSU if manufacturer recommend 750W

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They don't do that to make you spend more money

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 7:56 AM

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because it's better to get a lower wattage psu with better build quality than a time bomb high wattage psu

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and plus the list he made only pulls like 450w

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550w is more than enough

frigid phoenix Sep 9, 2020, 8:00 AM

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THAT IS THE POINT
He want to get 3070 which has recommended 650W, but nah. Let's take 550w because pcpartpicker says it will be enough. Then what is the point of the damn recommended PSU on the box

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Why would Nvidia say that 3070 requires 650W if in fact 550 will be enough

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 8:01 AM

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lemme get you some scale here

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the 3070 pulls the same power as a 2070 super

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the 2080ti had a recommended 650w psu

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nvidia recommends 650w because that's the worst case scenario

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something like a threadripper or dual xeons

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the money spent on extra wattage could just be invested somewhere else

unborn kiln Sep 9, 2020, 8:16 AM

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oh no! my 100w fans!
@crimson scroll LMFAO

normal patio Sep 9, 2020, 10:02 AM

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One message removed from a suspended account.

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 10:32 AM

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1650, but both are eh

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a 1650 super is only $20 more

wicked river Sep 9, 2020, 11:26 AM

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what is better a 1660 super or a 1060?

noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 11:27 AM

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1660 s

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its really good card

frigid phoenix Sep 9, 2020, 11:29 AM

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but don't get 1660ti, you don't get that much of a performance over super

noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 11:29 AM

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yes 1660 ti is really bad

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its around th e same price as super but low performance

frigid phoenix Sep 9, 2020, 11:30 AM

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no, it has little bit higher performance

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but costs more

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if you can get it in price of 1660s, then get it

wicked river Sep 9, 2020, 11:57 AM

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its just my friend has a 1060 and im planning a build with a 1660 s

random trench Sep 9, 2020, 12:08 PM

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wait a little bit longer for the used 20 series to come down a bit more in pricing

atomic dust Sep 9, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Does my build need a fan controler?

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https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/YMxwTC

System Builder

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 1:01 PM

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The fans are daisy chainable

merry dew Sep 9, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Which is better; the Hyper 212 EVO or the Hyper 212 RGB BLACK EDITION

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like as a matter of pure performance at the rate of sound

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 1:43 PM

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neither

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hyper 212 is outdated, and kind overpriced

merry dew Sep 9, 2020, 1:44 PM

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so evo?

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 1:44 PM

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and the mounting is just... no

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how much do each of those cost

merry dew Sep 9, 2020, 1:44 PM

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alright, which cpu cooler is the best in the same 50e max price range

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euros

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 1:44 PM

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which country?

merry dew Sep 9, 2020, 1:45 PM

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evo is 32€

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and regular is 59.90€

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finland

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 1:45 PM

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https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/product/6QPKHx/raijintek-leto-w-670-cfm-cpu-cooler-0r100061

RAIJINTEK LETO W 67 CFM CPU Cooler

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high end cooler

merry dew Sep 9, 2020, 1:46 PM

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Thanks.

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 1:49 PM

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np

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 2:10 PM

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i'm not saying a 550w psu is ideal for a 3070

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it won't be top of the efficiency curve

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but to stay close to his budget and not compromise on the quality of the parts

fallow bay Sep 9, 2020, 3:11 PM

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1660super and Ryzen 5 3600 with 16gigs of ram and a nvme SSD 500gb

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Good?

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 3:11 PM

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it's aight, which ram kit and ssd?

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 3:12 PM

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and for what price

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and what motherboard

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 3:13 PM

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send pcpp list if possible

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if not possible, make one :p

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list

System Builder

fallow bay Sep 9, 2020, 3:14 PM

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B450 aorus pro wifi

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@devout wolf it will take time

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I don't have much time

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 3:14 PM

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well

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we shouldn't rush building a pc

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 3:15 PM

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^

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 3:15 PM

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so come back when you have time

fallow bay Sep 9, 2020, 3:15 PM

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I mean I don't have time rn

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 3:15 PM

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right

fallow bay Sep 9, 2020, 3:15 PM

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I have to study

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 3:15 PM

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so, later

fallow bay Sep 9, 2020, 3:15 PM

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K

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Will make a list and send

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 3:15 PM

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sounds good

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aorus pro wifi... tHONK

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ah yes the ds3h

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 3:16 PM

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if he already owns it its fine

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 3:16 PM

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ye

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 3:16 PM

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i got a b450m ds3h for my brother

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 3:17 PM

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oh neat

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 3:17 PM

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it's got bad vrms and only one fan header, but he will literally never overclock

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and i already had fan splitters

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and it was the cheapest mobo available

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 3:18 PM

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at least it's not hdv KEK

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ds3h is fine for a 65w cpu

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 3:19 PM

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yeah, no mobo will kill your 3600 stock

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Alright I'm checking my hwinfo now since i don't have access to a killawatt or something similar and my 1080 draws 185W at max while my r5 2600 draws 97W at max. Lets say there's 10% difference between software reporting and actual reporting, so we'll put that at 185+18.5+97+9.7=310W. Lets say my four HDD+SSD use 3W each, so 12W. 2 sticks of DDR4 at around 2W each, so 4W. Four case fans and two system fans at around 1k rpm, so around 2W each. Motherboard, lets go on the higher end and say it draws 60W. Grand total of 398W consumed. The minimum PSU listed on geforce? 500W

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and also all this is measured with folding@home, cpu overclocked at about 1.31v, gpu overclocked at +144 core +374 memory with 105% power limit, and ambient temperature is about 25C

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if we take the scaling of my gpu to the listed max gpu wattage of a 1080, it's about a 1.13 multiplier. multiply that by the 220w of a 3070 and we get 249W, now subtract 203.5W from my total power draw, add on 249W, and you get 443.5W, which would be total power draw of my system with a 3070

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do the same scaling with the 106.7/65W on my r5 2600 and apply it to a 10600k and you get 125*1.64=205W, subtract the 2600 power draw and add the 10600k and you get total system draw of 542W

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so under a very very extreme scenario, a 550w wouldn't be enough

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the 205W number from my scaling seems pretty accurate too, tomshardware puts theirs at a peak of 208W under a 5.0ghz OC

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with an average of 175

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Also my 520w PSU is listed tier D and bronze efficiency and the neoeco on the list i created is tier B and gold. The LTT tier list is obviously not the definitive guide, but a good enough proving point that you don't need to go crazy on the wattage

pine talon Sep 9, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Wow I stirred this much heat😰😰. Sorry Guys. Lol

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I was just asking for a build😂😂

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 6:09 PM

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you're fine

noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Should I go for a 3070? Regarding my budget for my GPU is around $510. Trying not to spend $1.5k.

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Might go to 1440p gaming, but the monitors are pretty expensive

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 7:18 PM

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sure, i'd wait for reviews and stuff but it's a solid card for $500 according to what we know so far

noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 7:19 PM

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mk

mortal patrol Sep 9, 2020, 7:24 PM

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What's an AiO yall would recommend?
I was thinking NZXT x53 but people are telling me no

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 7:28 PM

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EK aio or arctic liquid freezer II

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best price/performance/noise

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when noise normalized

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also if you're only on 1080p 144hz, a 3070 is probably overkill

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@noble oak

merry dew Sep 9, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Also, can someone drop a cheap itx nas/full hd netflix build

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(finland)

noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Should I go for a 3070? Regarding my budget for my GPU is around $510. Trying not to spend $1.5k.
@noble oak Well if you got a cheap cpu like a i-3 or i-5 it would bottleneck the system so watch out

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 7:36 PM

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that's a bad generalization

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unlikely a i5-10600k would be a bad fit

noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 7:37 PM

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you could get a ryzen 5 with a geforce rtx with it?

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 7:37 PM

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why do you say an i5 might bottleneck but the r5 won't

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it's more likely the r5 will

noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 7:37 PM

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god idk i never built a pc

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and dont got the money

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 7:37 PM

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then don't suggest random stuff

noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 7:37 PM

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i saved £400 for this bad pc

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 7:37 PM

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it's not helpful

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 7:37 PM

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knowledge on the internet is free

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 7:37 PM

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and could end up costing somebody who reads that

noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 7:38 PM

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._.

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oop

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 7:38 PM

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and i3/i5 is a very generalized term

merry dew Sep 9, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Yeah

devout wolf Sep 9, 2020, 7:38 PM

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an i3-10100 performs better than a i7-960

noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 7:38 PM

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yh i got a bad intel i3

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 7:38 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQVBlCfb72M

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

Intel Core i5-10600K CPU Review & Benchmarks: Gaming, Overclocking ...

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noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 7:38 PM

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only got 2 cores and 4 threads

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 7:38 PM

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you will see that the 10600k consistently beats out the 3600 in gaming

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so therefore it's less likely to be a bottleneck for high end cards

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and they test with the highest possible consumer card, a 2080ti

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so you can see cpu differences and you're not limited by the gpu in most instances

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@merry dew don't know much about nas or finland prices, sorry

merry dew Sep 9, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Alright

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ordering abroad aint an option

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 7:41 PM

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probably something like a 3200g so you don't need a dgpu

merry dew Sep 9, 2020, 7:42 PM

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unless its a case or sumn

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 7:42 PM

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and an a320/a520 mobo

noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 7:42 PM

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instead of buying the 3080, i might just build a new system

merry dew Sep 9, 2020, 7:42 PM

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yeah I was going with the r3-3200

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g

noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 7:42 PM

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i have a 2080 super and a i7 9700k

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the i7 would bottleneck it and i'd need more cooling

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 7:42 PM

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nice

merry dew Sep 9, 2020, 7:42 PM

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is it capable of streaming 1080p/4K video?

sullen ermine Sep 9, 2020, 7:43 PM

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I have a toaster

merry dew Sep 9, 2020, 7:43 PM

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like the Vega graphics module in it?

noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 7:43 PM

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so i think imma just build up a new system and sell my old one, but then my pc wouldnt get a lot because of the new release of the new 30 series cards

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😦

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 7:44 PM

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yes, you can do 4k60 with both VP9 and HEVC apparently

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@noble oak you'd still get a decent amount, with a full build probably 1k depending on the other parts

noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 7:46 PM

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probably

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ive got a 970 evo ssd, 15tb hd, and 32gb of trident z royal ram

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 7:47 PM

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tbh you could just sell your gpu, cpu, and mobo and upgrade those

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the parts you have seem pretty high end

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no point in selling them and then buying something that's pretty much the same

noble oak Sep 9, 2020, 7:47 PM

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tru

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but my problem is my case

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and fans

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and aio

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cooling basically

crimson scroll Sep 9, 2020, 7:49 PM

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make a pcpp list

warm jolt Sep 9, 2020, 10:56 PM

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is It possible to get a motherboard that supports intel processors and AMD graphics cards?

echo zealot Sep 9, 2020, 11:00 PM

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why would you want an intel cpu

naive dagger Sep 9, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Lol

hallow falcon Sep 9, 2020, 11:53 PM

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I’ve got a question about the pc case I want, which is https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3W6qqs/be-quiet-pure-base-500dx-atx-mid-tower-case-bgw38

be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 1:17 AM

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@warm jolt yes, consumer gpus all share the same standard (pcie)

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@hallow falcon you didn't ask the question

warm jolt Sep 10, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Thanks

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 1:34 AM

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I need a 1440p for my monitor for sure, what are some monitors you recommend?

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Try to make it in 200-220

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 2:40 AM

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1440p 144hz will be hard to get for that price

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personally i'd rather do 1080p 144hz over 1440p 60hz

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also weren't you aiming for a build with a 3070

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Yea

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What I keep getting told is a 3070 is overkill for 1080p 144hz gaming

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 3:52 AM

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yep

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a 2080ti is overkill for 1080p 144hz so even if the 3070 is just equal to that, it'll be overkill

noble oak Sep 10, 2020, 4:08 AM

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But there really is no choice for me here, 1440p is out of my budget. The least I could do is up my monitor to 240hz

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 4:13 AM

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that won't make it cheaper

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you should balance your system

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go 3060 and 1440p144hz when that comes out or go with a 2070s used for cheap and go 1440p144hz

pine talon Sep 10, 2020, 4:19 AM

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If I don’t have an ethernet cable to plug into my pc, would I have to buy a motherboard with wifi?

crimson scroll Sep 10, 2020, 4:20 AM

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you can buy pcie wifi adapters