I asked someone else for help and he thinks it might've shorted. Ngl I'm disappointed in myself for not realizing it could've happened and taking steps to prevent it.
#💻-building-a-pc
vagrant ore
devout wolf
yeah sounds like either that or a 4-pin connector in a 3-pin header or vice versa
vagrant ore
Everything was in the right spot except there was an 3-pin header exposed.
It seems like it touched something it shouldn't have.
tall cove
Brand of the board (or hub)? Brand of the fan? @vagrant ore
vagrant ore
Mobo is MSI. Fan is Cooler Master.
tall cove
I need specifics fam, which MSI and which CoolerMaster
I should have specified that that was what I was looking for that’s on me
vagrant ore
My bad. MSI MPG Z490M GAMING EDGE WIFI. For the fans, I've been searching and I can't find what it is. Its the stock fans for MB320 ARGB for mATX.
tall cove
What did the smell smell like? Like a burning?
vagrant ore
I think so. It's the first time I've smelled it because nothing like that has happened before.
dusky crag
my budget is around 2000$ and usa
tall cove
Ok
crimson scroll
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FxBZtp balls to the wall
if you're serious about video editing and production, the 3900x will be better than the 3700x, despite being roughly on par with it in gaming
32gb of pretty fast, tunable memory, again for the editing
one of the fastest nvmes (without going gen4 and busting the bank even more), a 2080s for nearly any game you want at high refresh and resolution, within a high airflow (and rgb) case
and more power than you need
pulsar fossil
Remember when a FSB aka Front Side Bus was a thing? Oof I don't miss that
crimson scroll
wow, that predates me by a lot
devout wolf
fsb was a thing until like 2008
crimson scroll
still predates me by a lot
devout wolf
yeah me too
tepid pawn
Two questions my dudes. One - this is 1070 windforce from Gigabyte and i want to change the paste and pads but i have no idead how thick the pads are. Does anybody knows? https://www.aorus.com/upload/Admin/images/20161108175651.png And two - is is safe to put LM on Celsius S36 by Fractal Desing?
crimson scroll
i can't see much from that picture but no more than a couple of millimeters, i would measure them personally
and yeah, i don't see any issues with liquid metal on the s36
the s36 uses a copper coldplate, so the gallium in the liquid metal will react with it slightly, but it shouldn't damage it
i'd be worried about gallium with aluminum though
crimson scroll
nice
woven valley
i need some help with specs for a new pc
crimson scroll
i'm throwing out a guess, gonna be 850-1000 and for gaming
swift pumice
^ 🥶
noble oak
Fractal Design Focus G mabye?
lean quarry
devout wolf
that's good too, also
Bitfenix Nova Mesh TG - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KgbCmG/bitfenix-nova-mesh-tg-4argb-atx-mid-tower-case-bfc-nvm-300-wwgkw-4a
TD500 Mesh - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gfn8TW/cooler-master-masterbox-td500-mesh-white-w-controller-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-d500d-wgnn-s01
be quiet! 500DX - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3W6qqs/be-quiet-pure-base-500dx-atx-mid-tower-case-bgw38
P400A Digital - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QdXYcf/phanteks-eclipse-p400a-digital-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec400atg_dbk
lean quarry
the be quiet! 500DX is also in black
i would say the black version has a better look
devout wolf
yeah there are black versions of those cases too except for the Nova Mesh
median rivet
You lot think hardware is gonna get cheaper anytime soon seeing as the nextgen consoles are actually pretty powerful on paper
devout wolf
on paper
i hate how they're advertising performance in teraflops
literally means nothing unless you're doing floating point operations on console
median rivet
Isn't MS gunning for the whole 4k120 or whatever it is
median rivet
They're going for 4k60, "up to 120"
Which at a presumed 600usd price point is kinda insane
devout wolf
up to™️
median rivet
Probably wont get there, but 4k60 is still better than most pcs can do these days on modern titles
devout wolf
yeah
what settings are we talking about tho, and which games
4k60 lowest settings on esports titles is easy as ever
median rivet
Given they said up to 120 they probably want to get 4k60 on newer titles, I assume the typical console mix of medium and high settings
devout wolf
we'll just have to see tbh
i have no hopes for the ps5, looks like it'd thermal throttle from startup
median rivet
They're rocking AMD gpus arent they?
median rivet
They'll probably drop a new gpu line around the release on the consoles
crimson scroll
4k120 on some very low intensity graphics maybe
crimson scroll
weird how people post in here " i need a pc build" and then never post anything ever again
median rivet
Because they're busy building jeez
naive dagger
Saucy is mean
devout wolf
@noble oak 5
devout wolf
yeah give me a sec
noble oak
thanks
devout wolf
choose one
Corsair 220T Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wj4BD3/corsair-icue-220t-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011174-ww
Bitfenix Nova Mesh TG - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KgbCmG/bitfenix-nova-mesh-tg-4argb-atx-mid-tower-case-bfc-nvm-300-wwgkw-4a
TD500 Mesh - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gfn8TW/cooler-master-masterbox-td500-mesh-white-w-controller-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-d500d-wgnn-s01
be quiet! 500DX - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3W6qqs/be-quiet-pure-base-500dx-atx-mid-tower-case-bgw38
P400A Digital - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QdXYcf/phanteks-eclipse-p400a-digital-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec400atg_dbk
devout wolf
yes
noble oak
why*
devout wolf
the h510i sucks
noble oak
you dont like the color white?
devout wolf
no, the case is just trash
noble oak
a case is a case
devout wolf
if you want the minimalistic look, there is a 6th option, but it's black only https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeZJ66O5o0c
devout wolf
yeah choose one of those i linked
noble oak
Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case does it comes with da rgb fans?
devout wolf
yes
noble oak
i ment how many
devout wolf
3
devout wolf
yeah
noble oak
like the place of the turn on button?
noble oak
idk
devout wolf
devout wolf
devout wolf
rgb or non-rgb?
noble oak
rgb
devout wolf
noble oak
it is compatible with my case?
devout wolf
yup
noble oak
can i just use the nzxt ones?
devout wolf
the nzxt aio? that's a waste since you don't need to water cool a 3700x and it comes with a decent stock cooler
devout wolf
wdym?
noble oak
what
devout wolf
three included the front, plus these three
hallow falcon
I don’t really care about RGB, so if there are better case fans to get let me know
crimson scroll
Arctic p12 for budget, noctua for best performance to noise
bleak swan
I just built my PC, installed windows and all my programs.. unplugged it to reposition it.. and now my mouse and keyboard aren’t working. The case’s USB port works but only with my Logitech mouse and keyboard. The motherboard USB ports work, because my usb dock is lighting up. Please help.
static pecan
Have you tried unplugging the peripherals, shutting the PC down, plugging everything back in and booting up?
Also try reinstalling any software associated with the devices
crimson scroll
also, maybe your front panel headers are loose
since your case usb port is being funky and your motherboard ports are fine
and its more like $5.5 since no free shipping but yeah, still a good deal @devout wolf
noble oak
guys what are some good case fans
crimson scroll
scroll up
noble oak
i mean like really good
like really really good
with rgb
@crimson scroll also are nzxt case fans are good?
sonic whale
what one should i get?
1 - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lian-li-lancool-ii-mesh-performance-midi-tower-case-black-ca-78b-ll.html
2 - https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/components-upgrades/tower-cases/corsair-obsidian-series-500d-rgb-se-atx-mid-tower-pc-case-10190623-pdt.html?intcmpid=display~RR
3 - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07C2M71VM?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
4 - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B076JF4NQN?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
5 - https://www.awd-it.co.uk/lian-li-alpha-550x-rgb-tempered-glass-atx-midi-tower-case-black.html?wgu=13527_206719_15984423253781_62fa45544c&wgexpiry=1606218325&source=webgains&siteid=206719
6 - https://www.cclonline.com/product/251027/CA-1J7-00M1WN-00/Cases/Thermaltake-View-37-Ring-Edition-ATX/E-ATX/Micro-ATX/Mini-ITX-Mid-Tower-Computer-Chassis-Black-/CAS3343/?siteID=8BacdVP0GFs-K3lHVFSbEvRt3GXeONUebA
7 - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07MFR1VDN?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
8 - https://www.awd-it.co.uk/fractal-design-define-s2-vision-tempered-glass-addressable-rgb-midi-atx-gaming-pc-case.html?wgu=13527_206719_15984425593745_013e080f0a&wgexpiry=1606218559&source=webgains&siteid=206719
9 - https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/components-upgrades/tower-cases/lian-li-pc-o11dx-dynamic-mid-tower-atx-pc-case-black-10186000-pdt.html
sonic whale
@noble oak I have like £250 to spend, i want a 3 x 120mm at the front for my kraken
but i want potential for a lot of rgb shine through
so its bright
and i need it so my gpu can be vertically mounted
i have a iCue 465x and my gpu is too fat xD
noble oak
whats ur budget
sonic whale
£250
noble oak
for the whole pc
sonic whale
yup
noble oak
i can make a nice part picker tho
sonic whale
i have a 9700k, 32gb ram, aorus 2060 super
sonic whale
because it was like an extra £150 for a decent 2070 super
noble oak
true
sonic whale
ill probs wait till 30 series come out, sell that for probs around £300
and then use more money to a 3070 super or something
noble oak
what style of case are u looking for
sonic whale
3 x 120mm on front, 2/3 x 120mm on top, 1 x 120mm on back - Fans
Be able to vertically mount my gpu (if i need to buy a bracket then i dont mind)
RGB to shine, want it looking hot
noble oak
full atx or mid
sonic whale
either
noble oak
do u need rad clearance
sonic whale
wdym?
sonic whale
eyah
noble oak
360
sonic whale
yeah
noble oak
okay
off the top of my head the o11 dynamic XL sounds perfect
except it doesnt have a front facing fan mounts
sonic whale
i can mount on back if ygm
sonic whale
big
sonic whale
which is?
noble oak
sonic whale
i need atx tho
sonic whale
i have that
noble oak
i really recomend the 680x because it has lots of drive space in the back
let me try to find some more cases
sonic whale
aight cheers
sonic whale
i was looking at the 500d
noble oak
with top 360's the cases can be mid atx
500d is so hard to work in
to much glass for me
not enough glass
for u it might be different
sonic whale
I need to make cable management good if i did
noble oak
yeah
thats not hard in my opinion
the 500d looks perfect for u tho
and the 680x
and kinda the o11 dianamic xl
even tho it doesnt have a front 360
it still looks really cool with rads
because u can side mount them
sonic whale
was thinking o11 but friends have them xD
noble oak
thats not a reason to not get it
toxic raftBOT
NOAH#0359 has been warned
sonic whale
what did u say xD
sonic whale
lmao
devout wolf
O11 is pretty overused but it's a great case
lusty apex
Is the corsair harpoon a good budget mouse?
pine talon
I have a question for anyone, does anyone know any good 600$ pc builds
Im looking for around 150ish fps on modern warfare
devout wolf
Is the corsair harpoon a good budget mouse?
@lusty apex it has a common double clicking problem
crimson scroll
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xRFkFG you're not gonna get 150fps on 1080p, maybe around 120-130 on low, 70-80 on ultra
naive dagger
yeah fr
crimson scroll
you could also go with a i3-10100 and b series board for around the same price and better cpu performance in games, but way less upgradeability since the board will be locked
devout wolf
@forest heart what's up
forest heart
i have a intel cpu rn
and i wanna upgrade to an amd one
but i nned to find a mother board with bluetooth wifi 4 ddr4 ram slots
and idk if gpu matters but its a gtx 1070
devout wolf
well for one
every am4 motherboard has ddr4 slots
and for wifi and bluetooth, just get a wifi card for them
so what's your budget for cpu and motherboard? @forest heart
and what do you have rn
devout wolf
i mean which cpu you have now
forest heart
devout wolf
already bought it too?
devout wolf
phew good that you didn't buy it
get a 3600 non-x
3600x is the EXACT same CPU as a 3600 but with an extra alphabet
and costs more
what's your budget for the motherboard?
forest heart
the processor speed is higher
devout wolf
no difference
you can overclock a 3600 to 4.6ghz and performance increase will be minimal
and plus the 3600x runs way hotter (95w vs 3600 65w)
so it only has disadvantages
forest heart
ah k
devout wolf
the processor speed is higher
also overclocking a 3600 +200mhz is literally free
forest heart
i will get the non x
devout wolf
neat
devout wolf
damn forgot to set to uk pcpartpicker
brb
btw does your case support an ATX motherboard?
last fossil
i have now fixed my problem boys and gals
forest heart
bc i wanted a see through one
last fossil
a simple driver update was my problem and i can happily say i pull 220 frames/sec
so thank you to everyone who helped me
and everyone in chat
forest heart
bruh at this point i mayaswell build a new pc
i need more new shit than the stuff i already have
devout wolf
Motherboard - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/PCKcCJ/asrock-b450-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-pro4
Wifi card - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/j9m323/gigabyte-gc-wb1733d-i-none-wi-fi-adapter-gc-wb1733d-i
Case - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/b9tKHx/deepcool-matrexx-55-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-dp-atx-matrexx55-mesh
the 1070 will pair well with the 3600
if you are thinking of getting a NZXT H510... don't
get a Coolermaster NR600 instead
median rivet
I might have to pick up a wifi card when I go back to uni but I hope not so that saves me searching for one lul
last fossil
ive heard nzxt is overrated
devout wolf
everyone starts somewhere
forest heart
u been really helpfull tho ty
devout wolf
last fossil
if it makes you feel any better i just completed my first build
forest heart
mine is prebuilt
so im upgrading
they cheaped out on all the parts im pretty sure
apart from the gpu
devout wolf
the cpu is suboptimal
devout wolf
i have a similar cpu, i5-7600 and it barely meets my requirements... for gaming
4 cores/4 thread just stutters way too much
god forbid i try to render a long video with a bunch of effects
could probably compile gentoo on 1 core faster than this thing can render a 1080p video
forest heart
doesn the card/motherboard have bluetooth
last fossil
lol
forest heart
bc i prioritize bluetooth over wifi
devout wolf
doesn the card/motherboard have bluetooth
the wifi card has it
forest heart
since i have ethernet
its jsut a back up
do kno anymore cases
i dont like the front much
also in white
soz
devout wolf
what's your budget for a case? i have tons of recommendations
forest heart
like "50
devout wolf
hmm, that's pretty tight if i'mma be honest
devout wolf
lemme scour pcpartpicker
forest heart
thats like 66.73 dollars
forest heart
yh that looks nice
devout wolf
with cases it's almost always
-good price
-looks
-airflow
you can only have two
forest heart
the front isnt too bad either
devout wolf
white narrows it down even further
that kinda case is a gem, has all three. Fans are RGB too so that's a plus
devout wolf
yup
devout wolf
it's in the name but you can know by counting the expansion slots
forest heart
k
forest heart
does it support liquid cooler
devout wolf
it does but i wouldn't recommend it
even the stock cooler is good enough for the cpu
it only consumes 65w, same as your i5-6400
could invest the cost of an AIO somewhere else, like a gpu upgrade
forest heart
so is liquid cooling only for the cpu
devout wolf
AIOs are
if you want to liquid cool your GPU too you need to buy a GPU with a block, or you need a full custom loop
forest heart
would u recommend a cpu cooler
forest heart
bc silent fans are sm
devout wolf
yeah if you do want silence you can get a midrange tower cooler
oh btw, if you want case fans there is a great deal on Arctic P12s
the perform great and can be chained, so you don't need a hub
devout wolf
i've built a pc with them and they are really quiet at low rpms
forest heart
but the led
😄
@devout wolf i might get these ones
its comes with 2
i think i only need 3
devout wolf
can't speak for their performance or noise but their rgb is meh
you can't control it through software, only through the remote
lament pawn
So i just ordered this case which is the "Thermaltake View 37 ARGB" cant wait for it to arrive so i can transfer my build from my current case to another 
devout wolf
neat
devout wolf
true
noble oak
Anyone have monitor recommendations? @me
crimson scroll
Budget and use case @noble oak
noble oak
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JqqFzNPretty bad for 1080p ngl, but anyways suggest things to change please.
crimson scroll
you put the "pretty" as a part of your link
and yeah, a 2070s is overkill for 1080p unless you're trying to hit 240fps on every title
and i would still balance res/refresh
the sn550 is the same price as the WD blue sata
I would use that instead
and the money you save dropping from a 2070s to a 5700xt or lower, you can get better ram
aim for 3600cl16
can also get a nicer psu like a be quiet pure 11 or seasonic focus
frigid phoenix
@crimson scroll why get ram over 3200MHz if Ryzens don't officially support anything above that
I know they can handle much more but that won't hit performance so much
echo zealot
you dont keep going just cause one part is good
you set a goal
a price range
just cause you could get more with more
doesnt mean you should spend more
frigid phoenix
instead of putting more into RAM I would put more into screen
to get some 2k 144Hz
2k on 24" is lit
echo zealot
yeah that would look really nice
frigid phoenix
I plan on getting something like that on black friday
or oculus rift
still not sure which one to hunt for
crimson scroll
@crimson scroll why get ram over 3200MHz if Ryzens don't officially support anything above that
@frigid phoenix and where did you get that from
looks like plenty of 3600 kits available that are certified compatible
in fact, for most zen 2 chips, you want to get to 3733 (3600 is close enough) to keep your infinity fabric at a 1:1 ratio
if you get lucky, you can push 1900 (3800)
and the reduced latency will gain you some fps
frigid phoenix
crimson scroll
and I already talked about balancing refresh/res
thats the same argument as "technically, jedec spec is only 2133"
frigid phoenix
I said they officialy don't sypport over 3200 and I know that they can handle much more lol. But won't that be treated as overclocking and therefor cancel your warranty?
crimson scroll
3200 is already overclocking
like i said
jedec spec is much lower
enabling xmp in any way, even to get to 3200, is overclocking
besides, just clear cmos before rma
not like they'd know
in my opinion, if you're building a 1.5k+ build, you should probably get nicer ram
frigid phoenix
So AMD claims everywhere that their CPUs support 3200 but in the same time everything up to 4600?
crimson scroll
nah
you're right that "officially" it's 3200
but they provide documentation of certain kits working at certain speeds
and nobody gives a crap what the "official" is
well, nobody in the building community
SI and OEMs might care
frigid phoenix
well then ryzen what the hell, literally most of the polish stores claim that there is no point in getting anything above 3200 for ryzen
frigid phoenix
And those are fricking biggest tech stores
crimson scroll
it may shock you
but most tech stores lie to you
the average consumer doesn't know what they're buying
frigid phoenix
Those are little bit different here, we have like 3 bigger tech stores so they don't lie about everything
but seems like this is one of the things they do
Well, then is it worth OCing my 3200MHz ram if I have R5 3600X?
crimson scroll
why a 3600x
but...depends on how much of an OC you can get out of your ram
and how much you can tighten the timings/how much you have to loosen them to get higher frequency
frigid phoenix
So first, 3600X because I had limited budget and wanted to get as much performance as possible
and I didn't notice that non X version is just tiny bit worse
crimson scroll
what was the price difference between the 3600x and 3600
crimson scroll
i would've gone with the 3600 for sure, it's gonna OC up to the same as 3600x
you won't notice the difference
frigid phoenix
Well I just didn't notice that difference is so small
And about the ram, I have XPG gammix D10
crimson scroll
do you have an exact part model
frigid phoenix
you mean the PC4 thing?
crimson scroll
they have 2666, 3000, etc versions
crimson scroll
i'd run thaiphoon burner to figure out what die its using
and use ryzen dram calculator to figure out easy timings
from the sound of it, you might be able to go 3200cl16-16-16 or maybe even cl15, but it doesn't sound like a great bin
maybe if it's micron e die
crimson scroll
it's low tier b die
promising
ryzen dram calculator should tell you 3200cl14 is doable
frigid phoenix
It's one of the cheapest RAMs that I could get 
crimson scroll
unfortunately i don't think the calculator distinguishes between the different bins of b die, so go with the safer timings first
frigid phoenix
so now I just use this in XMP profile yeah?
crimson scroll
yeah
honestly the secondaries you can really just leave on auto
and run memtest after
frigid phoenix
I think I will do that tommorow as I am too tired to do that now lol
And I need to be up for whole day
Thanks for help tho
crimson scroll
np
frigid phoenix
Oh btw, maybe you will know reason. When I launch certain games, my PC just shuts off after like 20 minutes
crimson scroll
error messages?
frigid phoenix
Well the problem is, it happens in the least requireing games I play
frigid phoenix
So it looks like this, PC turns off. Motherboard keeps shining and I can't turn on PC for some time
crimson scroll
is it a debug led
frigid phoenix
waiting like 10 minutes fixes the problem and PC turns back on
I have asus b450 prime plus, r5 3600x, rtx 2080s
crimson scroll
okay
i would check event viewer and look for dumps around the time of the crash
and also to rule out overheating, it'd be good to confirm ambient temp, idle temp, and in game temp
crimson scroll
C
frigid phoenix
No
It happens only when I play War Thunder which is like 2015 looking game
When I play RDR2, MFS2020 everything is just fine
crimson scroll
have you looked up war thunder + your current driver version and gpu
frigid phoenix
It's not a problem because noone else with nvidia has the same issue
I asked few of my friends with 1660S and few other GPUs
crimson scroll
seems like an extreme absolute statement
your friends' anecdotal experience doesn't mean that much, unfortunately
crimson scroll
if we get a crash you can check the logs too
crimson scroll
i have no clue how taxing war thunder is
and what your cooling solution looks like
but 60 is a good temperature under load
for both cpu and gpu
frigid phoenix
okay I think it just fixed itself
crimson scroll
¯_(ツ)_/¯
crimson scroll
that's fine
crimson scroll
if war thunder has any crash logs that would be good too
frigid phoenix
It doesn't sadly
frigid phoenix
@crimson scroll okay it turned back on, what do I exactly look for in event viewer?
crimson scroll
summary of administrative events > critical
frigid phoenix
There is one in last hour for Kernel-Power
and 2 in past week, that fits how many times it crashed
crimson scroll
select one of the events
frigid phoenix
I picked the most recent one
crimson scroll
okay now find the keyword or error code and google it
now look back a little further from the time that log was generated
and see if stuff comes up
frigid phoenix
So I found few articles and I guess it can be fault of too weak PSU?
crimson scroll
it might be
but that specific error code only tells you it shut down unexpectedly
so you need to find errors slightly before it time-wise
and you can check all your hardware too to make sure stuff is connected, no shorts, etc
frigid phoenix
I suppose the reason is PSU which would make sense
as it's 50W too weak
it's 600W while 2080S has reccomended 650W
crimson scroll
well, if it's a decent quality psu it might be fine
you can run high powered components on lower wattage components simply because they overrate what you need becaus people use crappy psus that don't deliver stated wattage
so it depends
frigid phoenix
it's Vero M1
frigid phoenix
Whole Vero series is like mid tier half modular
not very popular in many countries tho
I have to change it finally
yeah so once again thanks for help
can't do much about that now
crimson scroll
yeah, i wouldn't trust a 2080s with a psu that shuts down with bad temperature protection even if it has decent everything else
hopefully that is the actual issue
also, everything is searchable
that's troubleshooting for non uber-specialized parts
frigid phoenix
Sadly I didn't really have any choice as I didn't expect that 2080S lol
crimson scroll
i have no idea what most error codes mean, i just look them up
good tip for everybody in this channel
frigid phoenix
also, I never expected that I will run such a powerfull GPU this or even next year
I won it in some giveaway
and had very limiited budget to upgrade everything
devout wolf
dang
clear jacinth
y'all are not gonna believe what my dad just found;
a 2080ti for €250!
thick light
second hand?
thick light
great
clear jacinth
the person is selling it bc he bought a titan rtx
devout wolf
no way, my friend got an amazing deal on a 2080ti too for that same reason
thick light
😅 why, i think has no significant difference performances between these card
devout wolf
none
clear jacinth
yeah, idk why he did that lol
devout wolf
only more vram
clear jacinth
most games don't even use 8gb of vram
devout wolf
lets not assume he's gaming 👀
thick light
maybe uses to machine learning something
clear jacinth
maybe for crypto mining
devout wolf
nah
thick light
that's expensive for mining
clear jacinth
just a guess 🤷
devout wolf
mining has been dead for a while and titan rtx isn't very efficient
thick light
yes
thick light
true
clear jacinth
but if my dad buys the card I needa pick up a r7 3700x :p
clear jacinth
💀
thick light
omg
clear jacinth
:p
devout wolf
low latencies
thick light
yes, but low CL module expensive
devout wolf
just stay at 16
clear jacinth
I'm planning to, don't need 16+
devout wolf
i mean cl16
clear jacinth
oh
devout wolf
but ram prices are gonna drop
clear jacinth
yeah it's cl16 i believe
devout wolf
get 32gb if you can
thick light
yes
clear jacinth
alright
dim sable
potato
thick light
ubisoft presents
devout wolf
h
mellow ferry
h.
clear jacinth
update: the guy that was selling the 2080ti for €250 was a scammer
devout wolf
expected
burnt crescent
update: the guy that was selling the 2080ti for €250 was a scammer
@clear jacinth well yeah its a scammer whod sell it for that cheap
clear jacinth
ikr
noble oak
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DGYjtp Yea please ctritique
crimson scroll
get a better monitor if you're gonna get a 2070s
upbeat jay
I'm doing my first build, all I need is my GPU and power supply
I need help though
My mother board is an ATX Board and I don't know what type of power supply I need
geussing Rmx
help
upbeat jay
@devout wolf I thought it was only for the k cpu's
the ones that say unlocked in the box
there also a core i5 one
crimson scroll
@upbeat jay what's your part list
also rmx is a product lineup by corsair
you're probably going to want a normal full sized atx power supply
devout wolf
@devout wolf I thought it was only for the k cpu's
@upbeat jay for 10th gen non-Z boards, it went up from 2666 to 2933
with k cpus/z motherboards you can go to like 5000mhz
crimson scroll
@narrow maple go find a local modder
noble oak
Dude is there any good 240hz monitors out there still?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zp7z27 Critique please by the way!
devout wolf
crimson scroll
same critique as earlier lol
get a sn550 or silicon power nvme for cheaper/better, you're wasting the power of the 2070s when you use a 1080p 144hz monitor with it, i would swap out the power supply for a mwe gold/be quiet pure 11/seasonic focus/etc
lean quarry
Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Black is this a good case?
crimson scroll
considering he put the full title it's probably not the airflow version
lean quarry
So the airflow one is the best?
devout wolf
Corsair 220T Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wj4BD3
Bitfenix Nova Mesh TG - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KgbCmG
**TD500 Mesh **- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gfn8TW
be quiet! 500DX - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3W6qqs
P400A Digital - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QdXYcf
P500A DRGB - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GmhmP6
Cooler Master NR600 - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbqhP6
Lancool II Mesh - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PmZzK8/
all of these are good cases for that price
crimson scroll
also the lian li lancool II mesh
and slightly cheaper (about the same with fans), nr600
upbeat jay
y
devout wolf
strix motherboards are pretty bad quality-wise
upbeat jay
wym
devout wolf
they're just pretty barebones boards that look nice
upbeat jay
example please
upbeat jay
well I wanted a white board that was compatible with my CPU
devout wolf
hmm
upbeat jay
my board 240 bucks
devout wolf
wait strix is white now?
upbeat jay
ye
devout wolf
$240 is a premium and a half damn
not sure how good the vision g is but https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qRhmP6/gigabyte-z490-vision-g-atx-lga1200-motherboard-z490-vision-g
devout wolf
oh it's fine if you have it now
upbeat jay
it cheaper though wouldn't that mean quality worse
devout wolf
not really
generally it does mean that
but strix is always really expensive for what it is
returning is a headache and strix probably has the same performance as these board i linked so it's fine
upbeat jay
ok
devout wolf
lol
upbeat jay
I don't like rgb on power supplies I think it wired
also what cpu cooler do u suggest for a white case biuld
crimson scroll
could get white chromax for noctua, or i think coolermaster makes a white one
id cooling might have one too
devout wolf
enermax had a nice one too
upbeat jay
lol how much experience do you guys have
devout wolf
out of stock
D:
oh hold on
found a good one
this is pretty high-end, like the thermalright true spirit
devout wolf
as for cases
Corsair 220T Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wj4BD3
Bitfenix Nova Mesh TG - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KgbCmG
**TD500 Mesh **- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gfn8TW
be quiet! 500DX - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3W6qqs
P400A Digital - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QdXYcf
P500A DRGB - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GmhmP6
Cooler Master NR600 - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbqhP6
Lancool II Mesh - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PmZzK8/
most of them have white options
upbeat jay
? is that amd
devout wolf
nvidia
upbeat jay
980?
devout wolf
ti
upbeat jay
wow never heard of it
upbeat jay
is it old?
devout wolf
yeah
upbeat jay
u play league
devout wolf
toxic raftBOT
Solid Fox#4295 has been warned
upbeat jay
I was about to make another mistake thank you so much
narrow maple
ping
civic apex
I’m upgrading my pc. Should I get more ram or an ssd?
upbeat jay
ssd
civic apex
Ok 🙂
devout wolf
what do you have right now? @civic apex
crimson scroll
in general i would say ssd, but it depends
wanton kernel
if you have 16 gb get ssd
crimson scroll
it still depends
lean quarry
@civic apex do you only have a HDD in your pc?
rich finch
I built a pc like 2 months ago
noble oak
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $289.99
Motherboard
Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard $189.99
Memory
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $62.99
Storage
Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $104.99
Storage
Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.99
Video Card
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Video Card $499.99
Case
NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99
Power Supply
Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $105.98
Custom
DEEPCOOL RF120 3in1 3X120mm RGB LED PWM Fans with Fan Hub and Extension, Compatible with ASUS Aura Sync $39.99
Total: $1418.90
is this a good parts list?
i am looking to build my first pc in a couple of months
median rivet
If you're gonna be building it in a couple of months then you should wait out on the GPU until the next release (It's expected mid to late September anyway)
The 30 series will give more performance for the same price range (According to leaks)
noble oak
ok thanks
median rivet
And if the 30 series is a flop the 20 series will go down in price anyway
worldly cradle
First pc build
RYZEN 3 3200G | 4.0 Ghz Boost
Asus Prime Pro b450m
8GB DDR4 T-FORCE RAM 3000MHZ, if you want 16gb of ram I can upgrade now because I have extra and it’s will be a charge up of only $50
500gb SSD
Amd RX580 8GB VRAM -Very good card for more info look up videos on it
Thermaltake 430w 80+ white certified PSU
2 RGB Fans with fan controller
noble oak
how much did your build cost?
worldly cradle
$600
noble oak
i am looking for a pc that can run most games at 100fps minimum and possibly even streaming
mellow ferry
prebuilt or build it yourself
noble oak
im looking to build
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $289.99
Motherboard
Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard $189.99
Memory
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $62.99
Storage
Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $104.99
Storage
Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.99
Video Card
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Video Card $499.99
Case
NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99
Power Supply
Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $105.98
Custom
DEEPCOOL RF120 3in1 3X120mm RGB LED PWM Fans with Fan Hub and Extension, Compatible with ASUS Aura Sync $39.99
Total: $1418.90
this is my parts list
worldly cradle
mine is a pre build
And it has RYZEN 3 3200G | 4.0 Ghz Boost
Asus Prime Pro b450m
8GB DDR4 T-FORCE RAM 3000MHZ,
500gb SSD
Amd RX580 8GB VRAM -Very good card for more info look up videos on it
Thermaltake 430w 80+ white certified PSU
2 RGB Fans with fan controller
noble oak
how much fps do you get on demanding games?
worldly cradle
idk that's the one I want to get.
noble oak
?
worldly cradle
idk the fps because I don't have it
worldly cradle
nope
crimson scroll
y'all need to use pcpp
makes it easier than filling half the channel up
also is that how they marketed it to you or are you putting that addendum yourself
worldly cradle
thats how they markteted it to me
devout wolf
@noble oak go with this list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cwPnZf
and choose one of these
Corsair 220T Airflow - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wj4BD3
Bitfenix Nova Mesh TG - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KgbCmG
**TD500 Mesh **- https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gfn8TW
be quiet! 500DX - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3W6qqs
P400A Digital - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QdXYcf
P500A DRGB - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GmhmP6
Cooler Master NR600 - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbqhP6
Lancool II Mesh - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PmZzK8/
devout wolf
yeah i fixed your list
devout wolf
i didn't add a case, choose one from the bunch of links up there^^
devout wolf
yeah all of those have included fans afaik
Bitfenix Nova Mesh TG has 4 included rgb fans
noble oak
yeah i saw
so i dont have to purchase any additional fans if i buy the Bitfenix Nova Mesh case?
im pretty new so i need some advice
devout wolf
even with two included fans you don't really need to buy more
but getting more helps with temps
with the nova you don't really need to buy any more fans
could move one of the front fans to the top as exhaust for neutral pressure
naive dagger
Oof
noble oak
ok
tryu now
this is the one that i made: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rdhanekula/saved/#view=mcsXyc
the one b4 is one that was suggested to me
devout wolf
what does it look like?
devout wolf
there is a wire from the PSU that connects to that
forest heart
k
Also for the case
i dont have an rgb connector
is there anyway to get around it or do i need a new motherboard
devout wolf
which case?
forest heart
the one u sent
devout wolf
i sent like 8 
forest heart
devout wolf
ah okay the neo air
forest heart
ye
devout wolf
is there a little hub where the fan wires go?
from the pictures it looks like there are buttons on the top of the case to control rgb
devout wolf
the two buttons behind the power button control the rgb
don't think you hook it up anywhere, maybe SATA power to the hub
forest heart
do u know how to connect the hdd
devout wolf
for HDD connect the long SATA cable from the power supply to it, and the shorter SATA data cable to the motherboard and hdd
forest heart
my head hurts from this confusion
there is a sata g
but it said neon g only
and i got an air
crimson scroll
if your motherboard doesn't have an rgb header then you usually just power it via sata and the case might have a controller, or else you won't be able to control it
@noble oak you didn't change out the case, or the memory, or the ssd?
also rafee i just looked at what you suggested him, why 32gb
noble oak
i was looking to get 32 gb ram anyways
i changed the case that i had origanally chosen
crimson scroll
i would get rid of the h510 and pick one of the airflow focused cases that rafee suggested, and get a different ssd
and unless you need pcie 4.0 everywhere, go b550
crimson scroll
if you don't know if you need it, you probably don't need it
noble oak
this is teh list that Rafee suggested
crimson scroll
modern gpus as far as we know can't take advantage of 4.0 over 3.0
that may change with rtx 3000
noble oak
ok
crimson scroll
permission denied still dude
noble oak
try now
crimson scroll
nope
crimson scroll
if the td500 is $113, maybe get a p400a instead in white for $23 cheaper
noble oak
im looking for a case that fans included
crimson scroll
the p400a d-rgb has 3 fans in the front
you can check manufacturer website listings to see the specs
noble oak
ok
devout wolf
list i sent minus the case https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cwPnZf
sent a bunch of cases for him to choose from
crimson scroll
i don't understand why pcpp says no price available
devout wolf
power supplies are gone again, pcpp still shows them in stock
devout wolf
pcpp sometimes 
crimson scroll
as always i recommend the sn550 for close to $100/1tb if you want to save some money, the a80 is a good choice too though
noble oak
i made some modifications: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rdhanekula/saved/#view=xTjGLk
the pc i might buy if i change my mind and buy prebuilt: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-supreme-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-3700x-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070-super-1tb-ssd/6400450.p?skuId=6400450
crimson scroll
less and slower memory, probably a WD green ssd, no hard drive, better cpu cooler, no airflow case
devout wolf
definitely a wd green
crimson scroll
looks like a 120mm rad so not a great cpu cooler despite being better than stock
noble oak
i am gonna add a hard drive myself and maybe upgrade ram in the future
crimson scroll
still not worth it IMO
devout wolf
120mm rad but with a 24cfm fan
crimson scroll
you're getting something that's more likely to fail
devout wolf
crimson scroll
also i would pick something other than the vengeance lpx for memory if you're going 16gb
you can get equivalent memory for $10 cheaper, and it's more likely to be overclockable
noble oak
kk
crimson scroll
and i would go with an id cooling cpu cooler over the 212 since it's kinda overpriced
noble oak
wut are the specs for your pc?
crimson scroll
hm, pcpp jacked up the prices
there's a lot of caveats with the part choices
I wouldn't follow my build
noble oak
ok
crimson scroll
they're decent, but the fans are loud and kinda rattle
you've seen the hp design
they have godawful fans
I also limit in afterburner to 75c, but they usually don't go past 70 on its own
noble oak
wait so for the ryzen series, you dont need to buy a cpu cooler right?
devout wolf
nope
unless it's an XT CPU, which you shouldn't even consider in the first place tbh
noble oak
can you check this list: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rdhanekula/saved/#view=XGdqmG