💻-building-a-pc

[devout wolf]

$100 keyboard display

[crimson scroll]

a $100 cooler that got dropped to $50 and is still trash

i liked their k65 though

it was like $50 and a nice mech keyboard

[devout wolf]

i mean the nexus

[sturdy comet]

rgb light stick omegalol

[devout wolf]

corsair is literally apple

[crimson scroll]

i have a corsair case too

it's nice and barebones

[devout wolf]

their loyal customers will buy anything they sell

i have a corsair case too
which one?

[crimson scroll]

200r

[sturdy comet]

corsair is literally apple
@devout wolf that aint true, some of their products are actually good

[devout wolf]

yeah

but

[atomic dust]

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07RMS5835/ref=dp_cerb_2?th=1

[crimson scroll]

apple has good products and integration with software

[devout wolf]

their loyal customers will buy anything they sell

[sturdy comet]

cant say that with apple for its price LUL

[devout wolf]

apple has good products and integration with software
^^

[crimson scroll]

it also has bad products

and the walled garden is...

[atomic dust]

this seems to be the previous model that i have

[crimson scroll]

has upsides and downsides

that still looks like no airflow lol

[atomic dust]

ik

but it works

my pc never gets hot

[crimson scroll]

yeah

[atomic dust]

or sounds like a turbine

[crimson scroll]

but when you put in a 5700xt

[atomic dust]

only after like a 20 hour use

[crimson scroll]

it's gonna get hot

you're upping the wattage usage

[devout wolf]

more wattage = more hotter

[atomic dust]

so what should i do then

[devout wolf]

phisiks

[atomic dust]

i only have the rear and side vent and the front trim part off

[crimson scroll]

get a p300a with extra fans, a nr600 with extra fans, a td500, a p400a, a lian li lancool II mesh....

[devout wolf]

nr600 is slept on

[crimson scroll]

honestly i would build a new pc after saving up a bit more and selling your current pc lol

[devout wolf]

it is literally a h510 with airflow

[crimson scroll]

save your hard drives

[atomic dust]

put in the pc part picker?

[crimson scroll]

like, i bet you could sell your current pc, add that to your savings, and get a whole new pc

[atomic dust]

the ting is old

im only gonna get like 200$

[crimson scroll]

that's 900 then

plus i'm sure if you sell it local you'll get somebody who'll bite for 3-400

[atomic dust]

no one near me whould need it

[noble oak]

Do we know what the prices are for the 3000 cards? I’m thinking of grabbing one but if it’s over 530 probably not

I’m building in 3 months and willing to postpone it if it’s worth waiting for the 3000

[atomic dust]

nzxt case?

that whould be nicley fitting into my room

[sturdy comet]

nzxt is bad airflow

[devout wolf]

nr600

[noble oak]

^

[devout wolf]

🙂

[atomic dust]

i mean like nzxt case

[devout wolf]

yeah
nr600

[crimson scroll]

nzxt's entire design philosophy is anti airflow

the h510 works with negative pressure, but it's far from optimal

[atomic dust]

be quiet?

[noble oak]

Only thing is aesthetic

[devout wolf]

cooler master

[crimson scroll]

be quiet has okay cases

[devout wolf]

500dx is neat

[atomic dust]

i aint gettin cooler master

[crimson scroll]

@noble oak the ref cards always sell high

we don't know the prices though

@atomic dust why not

[atomic dust]

i dont like big chonkas

[crimson scroll]

????

[atomic dust]

big chungus

[crimson scroll]

dude

look at the nr600

[devout wolf]

[atomic dust]

okay

lemme look

[devout wolf]

it's the same size as the h510 lmfao

if it too big then get the nr400

[atomic dust]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rf3H99/cooler-master-masterbox-nr600-wodd-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-nr600-kg5n-s00

this thing?

[crimson scroll]

yes

[devout wolf]

no

w/o odd

[atomic dust]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbqhP6/cooler-master-masterbox-nr600-wo-odd-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-nr600-kgnn-s00 or this thing

[devout wolf]

yeah

[crimson scroll]

the one he linked is w/o odd

what are you talking about rafee

[crimson scroll]

oh i'm a dumbass

[devout wolf]

[crimson scroll]

everyone in here needs to start learning how to watch reviews

[atomic dust]

okay

does this work

for the next 5-7 years

i might get the upgrade this month

also is the ryzen 5 3600 better than a intel i7 6500

[noble oak]

No

It depends what your gonna use it for, but overall no.

[atomic dust]

i might clean out some stuff

[sturdy comet]

i7 6500.....

that doesnt even exists

[atomic dust]

wait

6400

[sturdy comet]

i5 6400

[atomic dust]

am i dumb now

[sturdy comet]

idk, idk what you are talking about rn

i saw ''also is the ryzen 5 3600 better than a intel i7 6500'' this

[atomic dust]

6700

my bad

[sturdy comet]

and i was like that doesnt exists thats it

[hybrid rain]

i saw ''also is the ryzen 5 3600 better than a intel i7 6500'' this
@sturdy comet but is it better then i5 9600😂

[atomic dust]

OKAY GOOD

[sturdy comet]

i5 9600?

bro

you serious @hybrid rain

we didnt even talk about a 9600

-.-

[hybrid rain]

im just asking

:F

i dont know a lot about CPUs:d

[noble oak]

Dam super cards are pretty heavy, gonna have to make sure it doesn’t make my motherboard sag down

[verbal ore]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wNbkV7

Anything I should change?

[atomic dust]

anything i should change thats uneeded

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FX8Hdm

[hybrid rain]

Anything I should change?
@verbal ore change the graphics card to 1660super at least

[atomic dust]

and mine?

should be a sick setup

[hybrid rain]

yeahhh

[noble oak]

@verbal ore Check your compatibility...

[sturdy comet]

nah steel

[noble oak]

I know but I’m just making sure

[sturdy comet]

every mobo has been flashed already 🙂

or its a mobo that is has been collecting dust for a year and didnt even get touched

and thats even rare to get

[noble oak]

Yea, but his build is gonna be pretty solid. I’m just surprised is $600 for those parts

*its’s

[hybrid rain]

is it worth to invest in to cfm liquid cooler?

[sturdy comet]

are you going to OC?

[atomic dust]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FX8Hdm good set?

[crimson scroll]

@verbal ore p300 sucks

get the p300a

and add 2 extra 120mm fans

[sturdy comet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FX8Hdm good set?
@atomic dust nah

[atomic dust]

whats the prob with it?

[crimson scroll]

you're building a new system?

[sturdy comet]

3600xt is a joke

cl18 ram

[atomic dust]

not really

[crimson scroll]

yeah, it is

unless you're really into overclocking

[sturdy comet]

it is

[atomic dust]

okay

[crimson scroll]

it's a waste of money

get the 3600

[sturdy comet]

3600xt is double the price of a 3600

[crimson scroll]

thats..not true

[hybrid rain]

are you going to OC?
@sturdy comet no not rly

[crimson scroll]

240 for a 3600xt, 170 for a 3600

that's far from double

[sturdy comet]

depends on the country 🙂

[atomic dust]

whats the improvement over the xt

[crimson scroll]

none

[sturdy comet]

^^

[crimson scroll]

except savings

i promise you will not notice the difference

anybody who says they can is lying

[atomic dust]

so

[sturdy comet]

are you going to OC the cpu tho @atomic dust ?

[atomic dust]

nah

[devout wolf]

even if you are going to, don't

[atomic dust]

i dont think

[sturdy comet]

dont need a 120 cooler 🙂

[devout wolf]

overclocking a 3600 won't get you anything anyway

[sturdy comet]

stock will do the job

[devout wolf]

yup

[sturdy comet]

and what rafee said ^^

[devout wolf]

and most air coolers outperform 120mm aios too

[crimson scroll]

yeah, all that

[sturdy comet]

130$ i ment, srry

[atomic dust]

is it good now?

[crimson scroll]

well

you need to send a new list

the lists are static for parts

they only update for price, or if you use a saved parts list in your account

[atomic dust]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZWWrdm

[crimson scroll]

again

toss the cpu cooler

if you want to get a better one, get something like the duo freezer 34

[sturdy comet]

can get a 5700xt in that

[crimson scroll]

and you don't need third party thermal paste

[sturdy comet]

if you have the budget for that

[devout wolf]

you don't need to water cool 65w

[crimson scroll]

also, it's rgb ram, so the 3600cl18 is fine

[atomic dust]

i sthermal paste included or what

[crimson scroll]

yes

its included

[devout wolf]

The ram sucks tho

[atomic dust]

oh cool

[crimson scroll]

if you like rgb its fine

[devout wolf]

lpx with rgb

[crimson scroll]

yeah, it could be better

but whatever

[sturdy comet]

and you don't need third party thermal paste
@crimson scroll can change it... works better, BUT you need to know what you are doing.. but still not worth 🙂

[crimson scroll]

what

...

need to know what you're doing?

that's the case...for every part?

[atomic dust]

gaming

[devout wolf]

thermal paste is one of the easier parts

[atomic dust]

gpu and cpu intensive

[sturdy comet]

no? i ment it as in... not everyone knows what their doing, and ofc i know its the most EASY thing to do lol

[crimson scroll]

if you're putting together a pc

you can put on thermal paste

your statement is nonsensical

[sturdy comet]

dont mind me, people are dumb enough

believe me

[crimson scroll]

i mean

your statement backtracked two times

and fence sat

[sturdy comet]

anyways

lerts move on

[crimson scroll]

yes, lerts

[sturdy comet]

lerts omegalol

[devout wolf]

still kinda hate the ram

[sturdy comet]

^^

[crimson scroll]

i don't care enough

[devout wolf]

Its lpx with rgb

[crimson scroll]

a warning about it is fine

[devout wolf]

Just get tforce delta 3200 cl16

less imc stress, same latency and cheaper

[sturdy comet]

@atomic dust what is your total budget

[atomic dust]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vRL7mg

1000-1100

[crimson scroll]

i think at this point

[atomic dust]

43$ over is ok

[crimson scroll]

it'll be more beneficial to make a whole new list and explain our choices

[sturdy comet]

the cooler is still in there

[atomic dust]

oh

[crimson scroll]

let me make a new list and explain

[sturdy comet]

throw out the cpu cooler and toss a 5700xt in there

[atomic dust]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sWVB27

here

problems solved

[sturdy comet]

bro

...

[atomic dust]

what

[sturdy comet]

you put an other cooler in it

lmao

[crimson scroll]

lmfao

[atomic dust]

lol

[devout wolf]

wait wrong ram kit wups

[atomic dust]

stupid

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3WVB27

[crimson scroll]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ppqbBZ

look at my list

[atomic dust]

:/

[crimson scroll]

so

[atomic dust]

😦

[crimson scroll]

we don't need a third party cooler. the stock one will run fine

[devout wolf]

hey p400a digital is finally a normal price again

[atomic dust]

yes

[crimson scroll]

especially in a high airflow case like the p400a

if you really wanted to add a third party cooler, you can get one for $30-40 that will cool a 3600 just fine

[atomic dust]

i want a minimalistic case

[devout wolf]

NR600

[atomic dust]

and i neeed one

[crimson scroll]

the motherboard is the b450 tomahawk killer. lots of system fan ports, usb ports, good vrms

then yeah, get the nr600 and throw in 2 extra 120mm fans

the ssd i picked is possibly the best dramless nvme ssd out there, and at close to $100/tb, it's pretty much on par with any worthwhile sata boot drive

dram is used by ssds to create a table to lookup where stuff is stored, and is usually recommended on sata SSDs

less necessary on nvme, and the sn550's caching is excellent

the sapphire cards are generally some of the best out there for AMD gpus, and the pulse is actually cheaper than the gigabyte model

[atomic dust]

i said

[crimson scroll]

i picked the p400a because it's got great airflow and rgb if you care about it, but since you want minimalistic, go nr600 with 2 120mm fans

[atomic dust]

i allready have geforce now

[devout wolf]

sapphire is pretty much the EVGA of amd

[crimson scroll]

you don't need geforce now with this build

[atomic dust]

also

[crimson scroll]

quality/latency will be worse anyways

[atomic dust]

my game only recomends geforce cards

[crimson scroll]

which game lol

[sturdy comet]

which game?

[devout wolf]

which game?

[crimson scroll]

i very much doubt an amd gpu won't work with it

maybe not OPTIMIZED for it

[atomic dust]

yes

[sturdy comet]

has to be some high end sim racing

[devout wolf]

only thing I can think of is SEUS PTGI

[atomic dust]

its beamng drive

[devout wolf]

beam works fine on a 570

[atomic dust]

oh ok

[devout wolf]

should work on a 5700xt

[atomic dust]

so lets contine

continue*

[crimson scroll]

well

i pretty much finished my spiel

i picked a B tier psu with enough wattage for your system that wasn't THAT overpriced

[devout wolf]

hmm

[crimson scroll]

you can fiddle with that memory too if you wanted, i think it might be micron e die

[devout wolf]

pp11 500w?

[crimson scroll]

if you don't, it's close enough to infinity fabric 3733

550w is fine

[devout wolf]

kinda expensive

eh nevermind

[crimson scroll]

i mean

[atomic dust]

what if i told you

[crimson scroll]

we might as well go modular on a 1k+ build

[devout wolf]

PSU shroud does most of that work but I getchu

[atomic dust]

the i.t guy is allready coming with the parts.

he changed it a bit

[devout wolf]

uhm

[crimson scroll]

..

man

i hope your "it" guy

isn't scamming you

[atomic dust]

he aint

[sturdy comet]

send the list

what he changed

[devout wolf]

monkaS time

[sturdy comet]

^^

[atomic dust]

idk what he changed

[crimson scroll]

you...don't know...what you're paying for

[devout wolf]

[atomic dust]

🙂

[crimson scroll]

man

i have a bridge to sell you

[sturdy comet]

[atomic dust]

a bridge

[crimson scroll]

yes

[atomic dust]

100k?

[crimson scroll]

a south bridge

[atomic dust]

okay

[devout wolf]

[crimson scroll]

with it comes a great cpu

a 2600

yours for the low low price of $320

[sturdy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-good-gif-5104045

[crimson scroll]

that was a pretty slick joke guys i'm proud of that one

[hybrid rain]

the it guy comes gets him and i 3

[atomic dust]

no

[hybrid rain]

xd

[devout wolf]

cracked me up man, good one

[atomic dust]

he had changed small things

[sturdy comet]

nah i feel like that guy is comming with a 2070 with a i5 10400 or smth lmao

[crimson scroll]

dude

[atomic dust]

lol

nah

[crimson scroll]

you should figure out what he got you

[atomic dust]

okay

[crimson scroll]

and why waste our time anyways with making a parts list for you

if he's already bringing stuff

you're not gonna go change it now

[atomic dust]

no

i sent him the list

[crimson scroll]

which one

[atomic dust]

the improved one

[crimson scroll]

the one i sent you?

[atomic dust]

yes

[hybrid rain]

whats a good power supply?

[atomic dust]

hes going back to change part.

[crimson scroll]

well

[devout wolf]

whats a good power supply?
@hybrid rain for what specs?

[crimson scroll]

^

it's like asking what's a good cpu

[devout wolf]

that one

duh

[hybrid rain]

i5 9600 gtx 1660 super

[crimson scroll]

that's fairly low power

you can look at 400ish watt power supplies

[devout wolf]

pure power 11 500w or cx450

500w is a lot but it's the same price as a cx450

[crimson scroll]

you're still gonna want your standard protections like OCP, OVP, OPP, OTP, SCP

[sturdy comet]

or get maybe just a lil more watts to be have some future proof for later upgrade?

[crimson scroll]

future proofing is a bit overrated

[devout wolf]

The f word

[sturdy comet]

well yeah

[crimson scroll]

i will say, you can get a nice 650w psu that will last you forever through multiple systems

[sturdy comet]

^^

[devout wolf]

power usage doesn't really scale linearly across generations since architectures get smaller and power draw gets less

[sturdy comet]

i was just about to say that

[devout wolf]

doesn't apply to Intel currently

[crimson scroll]

or, get the cheaper psu now, and just sell it and get a new one

both are valid strategies

[devout wolf]

cause they're stuck on 14nm

[sturdy comet]

could get a 550 or 650, and transfer it to a newer built later on

[crimson scroll]

but i don't think you need to up the wattage for "future proofing"

not really necessary

[devout wolf]

but a 3900x pulls less power than a 2700x iirc

[crimson scroll]

like, look at the 1650

only draws pcie power

and has performance that's way better or on par with older cards that chugged power

[devout wolf]

once they put a 6 pin on it tho

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

aka 1650 super

[crimson scroll]

too bad the market kinda sucks if you want a low profile 1650

its why 1050ti are still around for a high price

[devout wolf]

you can push it as far as the silicon can handle it without any power limitation

yeah the LP market sucks

[hybrid rain]

I've got a low profile 1660 super

[crimson scroll]

dell optiplex gang

[hybrid rain]

i think that's what it called 😅

[devout wolf]

there is no lp 1660s

[crimson scroll]

^

[hybrid rain]

ah

[crimson scroll]

you might have one that's a normal 2 slot

[devout wolf]

It's probably single fan, the one you have

[crimson scroll]

and short

[devout wolf]

But LP has a half size bracket

[hybrid rain]

i have this one:D

[crimson scroll]

i have a card that's probably one of the rarer ones on the market

yeah that's normal width

it takes up two pcie slot covers on your case

[hybrid rain]

yh your right

[crimson scroll]

read your snaps dude

[hybrid rain]

ehhh

;D

[crimson scroll]

anyways

[devout wolf]

ahahaha

[crimson scroll]

i bet none of y'all have an engineering sample 1080

[devout wolf]

[hybrid rain]

REEEEE

[devout wolf]

does it have display outputs?

[crimson scroll]

lmao

yeah 3dp 1hdmi

[devout wolf]

oh okay

[crimson scroll]

standard hp OEM shroud and fans

works fine, maybe a bit on the slower end

it just has a screen before bios that indicates it's an engineering sample

[devout wolf]

This?

[crimson scroll]

Nah

Black fans

[devout wolf]

got it

[crimson scroll]

Pretty much

[devout wolf]

that's super cool

[crimson scroll]

Hang on I'll take a pic of the screen

[devout wolf]

ayt

[crimson scroll]

now, it could be that it's just a normal 1080 that they flashed a test bios onto

or it could be a slightly modified 1080

[devout wolf]

that's a possibility

how much did you get it for?

[crimson scroll]

the build and revision dates are after the 1080 launch date though, so it's probably a normal 1080 that hp then flashed

$260 on hws

[devout wolf]

oh that's not bad at all

[crimson scroll]

yeah it was a steal, especially since covid spiked right after

might try to sell it for $320 and get a new card

[devout wolf]

I thought my $105 980ti was a good deal but now I always see them on EVGA bstock for $99

it's still a good deal for how bad the market is here

[crimson scroll]

prices change too

items deprecate in value

[devout wolf]

thanks random miner who has 8 980ti's

I bought it ~nov 2019

[crimson scroll]

i think by next september, if i have a job, i'll sell my old system for hopefully $600

[devout wolf]

also overpaid for my ram, massive yikes

[crimson scroll]

i got a steal on my ram too

[devout wolf]

$70 for 16gb 2400 15-15-15-36

[crimson scroll]

yeah..thats not great

[hybrid rain]

me buy this

[crimson scroll]

eh

[hybrid rain]

bad?

[devout wolf]

more than you need

[crimson scroll]

it's not bad

it's more wattage and less connections

tbh there's practically no difference between semi and full modular just in terms of cable management

you need the mobo 24pin and cpu 4/8pin anyways

[devout wolf]

only use for full mod are custom cables

but extensions work just as fine

[crimson scroll]

pcpp doesn't have my 8x8gb option

can't recreate my build smh

[hybrid rain]

i just whant to buy safe power supply that wouldn't burn my house down

[devout wolf]

thought you had 24gb

[crimson scroll]

i do

my last stick isn't in the system because i put the cooler the wrong way

[devout wolf]

oh

[crimson scroll]

and i bought it off hws from a guy who split up the set

so i have 4x8

[devout wolf]

makes sense

[sturdy comet]

600W tItAnIuM for 200$

imagine buying smth like that

[devout wolf]

that's an 80+ rating

[crimson scroll]

my original build was closer to $1k

but

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PG3Hdm

voila

[devout wolf]

$60 SN750 HOW

[crimson scroll]

just imagine the ram is 3400cl16 that tunes to 3200cl14-14-14-28

i had an amazon promotion for it

[devout wolf]

huh

I like the $30 psu

[crimson scroll]

yeah

rebates man

[devout wolf]

mine was $22 lol

but it's a ticking time bomb

[crimson scroll]

i also had a kingston a400

really regret buying that

[devout wolf]

s11 go brrr

[crimson scroll]

and a 1tb sshd from my brother's laptop

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ybtQXv

i think that would be a fair price today

given that the ram is b-die

[devout wolf]

$140 for 32gb?

[crimson scroll]

yeah man

that's a deal already on b die

[devout wolf]

that's cool

[crimson scroll]

i sniped it for $60

i'm real happy about that

[devout wolf]

I have b-died too

except they're SpecTek

[crimson scroll]

never heard of them

big asia company like oloy?

[devout wolf]

basically Micron's garbage bins

nah they're owned by micron

[crimson scroll]

wow their website is from 1999

[devout wolf]

my ram sticks are PNY Anarchy, the ones with blue at the top

[crimson scroll]

If it's micron how can it be b die

[devout wolf]

no idea lmao

[crimson scroll]

B die is samsung

Maybe e die by micron is what you meant? But that's kind of high end

[devout wolf]

nah def not e die

this is SpecTek rev b:

8.0mm x 14mm x 1.2mm Die Rev: B, D

what dies does micron have again?

[crimson scroll]

I know of j, e, and d

[devout wolf]

prolly d then

[crimson scroll]

Generally b die means samsung in the enthusiast space but I wouldn't be surprised if micron makes their own b die that isn't related

[devout wolf]

could be that

Samsung rev b isn't always good

[crimson scroll]

True

[devout wolf]

some Corsair lpx have really trash bins of rev.b

can barely handle its own xmp profile

[crimson scroll]

I have lower tier b die according to thaiphoon

I will say I've never run memtest on these sticks because I'm too lazy and my computer is fairly stable

[devout wolf]

because I'm too lazy
likewise

[crimson scroll]

I might do it when I remove a stick and sell two

Probably not though

[devout wolf]

my GPU is definitely being held back, wish I could afford a good platform upgrade

kaby lake i5-7600 does not go brr

[crimson scroll]

Non k?

[devout wolf]

yup

B series mobo too

[crimson scroll]

Sad blck noises

[devout wolf]

now that I think about it, the XT CPU prices make sense

they were supposed to be the same price as non-xt

but the magical ever-dropping price of Ryzen makes it seem like a rip off

3600xt is $240, which was the price of 3600 at launch

[crimson scroll]

Can't wait for Intel to drop too

... Oh wait

[graceful summit]

hey guys whats a sleek looking pc

case

[devout wolf]

how sleek we talking?

check out the NR600

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbqhP6/cooler-master-masterbox-nr600-wo-odd-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-nr600-kgnn-s00

[sturdy comet]

if i wanted to upgrade (not right now) what should i upgrade, im maybe going to plan on going 240hz for games sucha s valorant, and i want something to play at 1440p or higher (even tho i think i can perform it already)
thse are my current specs:
2600
gigabyte b450 aorus alite
gigabyte 1070 ti gaming
2Tb HDD
Crusial mx500GB SSD
Corsair ven lpx 3000mhz cl15
CM V Series 750w

[green gale]

do u have a 240 1440p monitor?

[sturdy comet]

nop

just a regular 24,5'' 1080p 144hz TN panel

and maybe want to get on 240hz 24'' IPS

and like a second monitor that has a higher res and is bigger

[devout wolf]

if you're upgrading i'd just go all out and upgrade everything

[sturdy comet]

yeah idk

[naive dagger]

Or just give me the money 😃

[sturdy comet]

while you spended your money on twitch subs 😉

[crimson scroll]

*spent

[teal mauve]

guys should i get a i7 9700f or a 3700x the 3700x is cheaper tho

[merry dew]

defo ryzen.

[teal mauve]

ok thank you

[merry dew]

although the intel is more powerful, the price to ´quality ratio on the R7 3700X is higher.

[sturdy comet]

And on ryzen is still at least 1 more upgrade possible on the Line of cpu's

[merry dew]

Yep

[sturdy comet]

On the Intel Line you are already locked with An full upgrade with a new mobo

[merry dew]

My bro has that cpu in his pc (I built it) and so far hes liking it.

[sturdy comet]

Yeah my friend built a new pc aswell

Hé was done of his 100% load Intel cpu

Old i5 6500, 16gb, rx 480 sold for a new ryzen 3700x, 32gb, and a 2080s

Im jealous 😭

[merry dew]

Oh thats a banger of a pc

[sturdy comet]

And hé bought it like

For 1500 only

And meanwhile im with my 2600, 16gb and 1070 Ti (still rocking) but i want more 😂

[merry dew]

Hey I used the 1070ti in my last own build, its still a good gpu

[sturdy comet]

Yeah its good

[merry dew]

I moved to a laptop

[sturdy comet]

But it was so expensive 😒

I bought my pc when ram and gpus were insane pricing

Of miners and lack of ram 😩

[merry dew]

Yep, me too. Copped the gpu used fr 150€

[sturdy comet]

So i payed like €140 for a 16gb lpx 3000mhz cl15 kit....

Got my 1070 Ti for like 450

[merry dew]

and ordered the rest from Deutschland

oh lord thats so much :D

[sturdy comet]

Yepppp

Its so much 🙄

To much

[crimson scroll]

summer of 2018?

[noble oak]

Are you able to send a link in this chat?

[sturdy comet]

summer of 2018?
@crimson scroll yeah i believe so

[crimson scroll]

@noble oak yeah why not

just don't make it an affiliate link

[noble oak]

https://www.megekko.nl/wl/5PBMDHF7

This is my build that I wanna get

I might get a 2070 super if the price is going to drop because of the 30 series

[sturdy comet]

2060s is a really bad value @noble oak

And are you going to OC?

If not, stock is fine

[noble oak]

Im thinking about overclocking yes

but not tho much tho

[sturdy comet]

Then you can get the cooler for Just some better temps

But get rid of that 2060s

Since a 5700xt exists

Or gotta get that 2070s

Be in mind, if 3000 series drop dont expect a price drop instantly on the 2000 series

[noble oak]

Yea I'm waiting for the 30 series because the prices will drop

[sturdy comet]

1000 series still havent Dropped big time

So dont expect it yet

[noble oak]

No I am planning to buy the computer in like 6 months but they might drop tho

[sturdy comet]

Well in the mean time ryzen 4000 desktop Will be Dropped aswell

[noble oak]

Yea I'm just going to look at that time what is out and what the prices are

[sturdy comet]

And could get a bit more storage

And faster ram

[noble oak]

yea I was thinking about getting 3600

[sturdy comet]

Yep yep

[noble oak]

but I don't have the biggest budget tho, don't have a job yet

[sturdy comet]

Ahh

Its worth it tho

Rather drop down on the mobo

And get the better ram

[noble oak]

Yea

[sturdy comet]

Can get some good b550 for 100-120 aswell

Saved 20 on the mobo, pump It into that 3600

And all set 🙃

[noble oak]

True but idk if it is that great for overclocking then

[sturdy comet]

Yeah its good enough

[noble oak]

And kinda want wifi on it because I don't have a cable

[sturdy comet]

Yikers

[noble oak]

Yea

still getting 9 ping tho

[sturdy comet]

Rather do some work on getting that cable 😏

[noble oak]

:p

But maybe the ryzens drop in price as well if they or intel come with new ones, it is just a waiting game rn

[sturdy comet]

But yeah, even tho on the list before you forget, Just change add that 5700xt that you have that set

Yeah in a few months Will be cool stuff out

[noble oak]

Yea have you seen the leaked info about the 3080?

24gb gddr6x and 2.4 ghz

and that is not even the ti version

[sturdy comet]

Well 24gb is still to overrated tho

Its useless

Even 8gb cards dont get it to maxed out

[noble oak]

It is but still, people want the newest specs and the best stuff

[sturdy comet]

True

Rather do IT for the speeds and power

[noble oak]

But imagine the ti version tho

[sturdy comet]

Dont need 24gb vram 😂

[noble oak]

xd

[sturdy comet]

To get that achievement probably

Xd

[noble oak]

I'm curious what amd is going to do next

[crimson scroll]

@sturdy comet 2060s isn't bad value, what are you talking about

[sturdy comet]

It is lmao

2060s is basicly a joke, coz a 5700 xt exists

And its the same price

And you get more performance

[crimson scroll]

the 2060s has features that the 5700xt doesn't

[sturdy comet]

Still not even near as clue to worth buying it

[crimson scroll]

depends on your use case

[sturdy comet]

5700xt is faster by far

And if you are going to stream

You can better pick up a 2070s

[crimson scroll]

not if your budget doesn't allow for it

if you want to do any cuda accelerated work, you'll get the 2060s over the 5700xt

it's about use cases

[sturdy comet]

If going to game

[crimson scroll]

yes

be specific

[sturdy comet]

I would still not even consider a 2060s

5700xt is even cheaper

[crimson scroll]

you keep changing the narrative

[devout wolf]

2060 super can be overclocked to 5700xt performance

[noble oak]

But idk if the cooling will still be okay tho

[crimson scroll]

the cooling on what

[noble oak]

If i try to overclock my gpu in my laptop my laptop will explode or something

[crimson scroll]

yeah laptops are very poor thermally

[noble oak]

cuz the gpu is overclocked there can be quite some heat in the case

[crimson scroll]

it's basic thermodynamics

but why are we talking about laptops

[noble oak]

good question

[crimson scroll]

we're talking about building a desktop

[noble oak]

ye

[lucid fog]

anyone know how to get the Run with graphics processor right click back ? mine is missing since the windows update

[crimson scroll]

are you on a laptop

[static pecan]

@lucid fog you need to go into graphics settings and manually select the program and which graphics processor you want it to run on now

[lucid fog]

@static pecan ye, nvid removed the dam menu because hey windows want to take contol, now i have to deal with 2 UI,

my nvid say * window is now in contol but even though i set it on the windows setting, then nvid take contol, i have to set it on both to get it on my IGU or DGPU

[last fossil]

hey guys and gals i finally got my pc up and running with the exception of two fans that litterally dont have any ports to go into except in the back board but not sure how to power it

[next iris]

pc fans?

[last fossil]

anyway im trying to get my windows key from my old pc and was wonderinh how i do that

yeaaaa my pc fans

[next iris]

they should have a cable that plugs into the mobo

[last fossil]

tried that the pre installed ones legit wont go in

ive tried every possible place

[next iris]

damnnn what brand?

[last fossil]

thermatake

thermaltake*

[next iris]

ive got thermaltake too

is it an intel or amd motherboard

[last fossil]

amd

did yours come with a board in the back?

[next iris]

the fans?

[last fossil]

yea for the pre installed fans

for the wires

[next iris]

my case only came with one fan, i have a versa n27 case, and the fan plugged into my motherboard

lemme check it rn

[last fossil]

mine came with 3

i have 37 ARGB

[crimson scroll]

by board in the back

i assume you mean fan hub/controller

[last fossil]

I assume so

[crimson scroll]

what motherboard do you have

[next iris]

alr just checked mine

[crimson scroll]

it's possible you can just plug into more sys fan headers

[last fossil]

thats what all the wires cam pre plugged into but didnt boot up when i wired everything together

[crimson scroll]

send pictures of the fan hub

[next iris]

ahh my fan is single and plugs into the mobo thru a 3 pin hole cable

[crimson scroll]

that's great

doesn't help us solve boss's problem

[next iris]

yeah didnt know hes one was connected to hub

[last fossil]

see i just installed an extra two fans for compensation of airflow

lemme see if i can turn this behemoth around gimme a sec

[next iris]

does the hub have a cable that plugs into the psu or mobo

because if its a hub that all the fans plug into theres a high chance the hub plugs into a psu cable

[last fossil]

there is a 3 plug but which i assume goes into the mobo but theres also wires that direct into the mobo so it was a little confusing

[next iris]

is it a three hole plug?

[crimson scroll]

it's probably power from psu, control from mobo

[last fossil]

thats what i assumed but i didnt have a 3 pin for it

it never came with one

[next iris]

my 3 hole fan plugs into a 4 pin on the mobo

[crimson scroll]

lets just wait until you figure out the mobo model and send pictures of the fan hub

[next iris]

@last fossil what brand and model is the mobo

[last fossil]

msi mortar b5500

[next iris]

alr

[last fossil]

atx

[crimson scroll]

that has 3 4pin sys fan connectors

you can ditch the fan hub and connect directly if you wanted

[last fossil]

see thats what i tried doing but that fans are 140mm and they just wont power up no matter what i plug them into an the plugs wont fit into any prongs

except in the back

Here what I mean

[next iris]

can u send a pic of where you plug the fan cables on the mobo

[crimson scroll]

the fan size doesn't matter

it's the cable that matters

look up your motherboard's diagram

and where the sys fan headers are

don't try random ports

[last fossil]

well i dont do randome ports only where the fans are

fan ports i should say

but its like they dont fit into any of them

[next iris]

the fan ports should be 4 pin

this is where u plug the fans

[crimson scroll]

that's the m-atx board

[next iris]

yeah ik but should be very similar

quickest pic i could find

[last fossil]

the prongs im working with are 6 pin and those are 4 pin \

[crimson scroll]

the prongs on what

you need to send more pictures

[last fossil]

the fans

[next iris]

is your mobo b550m? coz thats the only one i can find

[crimson scroll]

what fans did you buy

he already said atx

[last fossil]

the one he sent

[next iris]

you can still put a m atx in an atx case

[last fossil]

its just the fans that came with my case

[crimson scroll]

and they came plugged into the fan hub, correct?

[last fossil]

yhats the ones im having an issue with

yup

[crimson scroll]

yeah

[last fossil]

but no power supply

[crimson scroll]

and what does the cable that comes out of the fan hub look like

[last fossil]

3 pin

[crimson scroll]

okay

[last fossil]

white

[crimson scroll]

so you can put it on a 4 pin

there should be two ridges that guide where you plug it into the sys fan header

[next iris]

yeah thats how it fits in, the 3 pin on the hub connects to the 4 pin on the mobo

on the sys fan 4 pin

[last fossil]

i have no wires that are connections like that though

[next iris]

i can send a pic of mine

[crimson scroll]

you just said the fan hub is 3 pin

so take that

and plug it into a sys fan header

[last fossil]

no there is a port for one

so id need a wire thats 3 pin then a 4 pin on the other end to connect to the mobo

[crimson scroll]

send a picture of the cable on the fan hub

[last fossil]

i just did it at the end

all the way to the left

[crimson scroll]

?

i don't see any picture

[last fossil]

hold on

[crimson scroll]

the one you sent doesn't have the end of the cable that comes from the fan hub

[last fossil]

That one

So I’d need a 3 pin wire to a 4 pin to connect it to the mobo for power

[crimson scroll]

dude

where does the cable that is currently connected to the fan hub go

[next iris]

it should be that thin flat black cable

[crimson scroll]

just give me the name of the fricking case

you guys need to learn when asking for tech support, be specific

[last fossil]

Lol my bad it’s my first pc

[next iris]

its all g man, im sending pic of mine now

[last fossil]

It’s a thermal take 37 ARGB

[next iris]

mine is like that, the cable im holding is a 3 hole that plugs into the 4 pins in the pic

[crimson scroll]

did you read the manual

[next iris]

atm are your fans plugged into the board for the fans

[last fossil]

Yea I did

Yea there plugged into the board

I didn’t even really come here for tech support on pc stuff tbh I just needed to know how to get my windows key from my old computer lol

[next iris]

im checking it now, it plugs in different than normal fans

[crimson scroll]

if you read the mobo then you know you need to use a converter that's included with the case

[last fossil]

Oh ok

[crimson scroll]

in your case, use the asus/msi cable

[next iris]

I feel your pain. TT manual is #### for connecting. You need to locate the 5v 3 pin Argb header on the motherboard and plug the small cable into it. On the case mounted controller card there is "mb/in" and then a3 pin connecting that goes to the motherboard.

Once plugged into the motherboard you will need to set the case mounted controller to bypass to motherboard by holding the button on case for 3 sec until the lights blink red which then allows the Mobo to take over lighting control. They would be controlled by the Argb Header option in Aura Sync.

[next iris]

this is by a forum

[crimson scroll]

yeah, what ultraman said

[next iris]

alr seems this is done

[crimson scroll]

to get your windows key from your old computer, make sure it's a transferrable copy, then deactivate product key from your old computer and then use it on your new one

[last fossil]

Ok I will do that

[crimson scroll]

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-transfer-windows-10-license-new-computer-or-hard-drive

this is a googleable problem

[last fossil]

I have been googling for like 2 days

[crimson scroll]

you need to work on your google skills then

[last fossil]

And tried the cmd thing

[crimson scroll]

and?

is your old computer OEM?

[last fossil]

the prompt came up and my key didnt appear

and what the heck is oem

[crimson scroll]

original equipment manufacturer

[next iris]

its original equipment from manufaturer

ye

[crimson scroll]

it means, did you buy your computer from HP or dell or cyberpower etc

or did you build your own pc and buy a retail copy of windows

keep in mind a lot of third party sites sell OEM copies

considering you said this is your first computer, i'm gonna go with your old one is oem

[last fossil]

probably but my old one is a real copy

and i just did the commands and it worked but i still dont have the product key to write down

[crimson scroll]

oem and retail are both "real" copies

it's not like kmspico or other keygens

[last fossil]

True

I just need my actual key so I can throw it into my new pc

[noble oak]

I have a Windows 7 Pro Product key and if I'm not wrong i'm pretty sure I can get out of windows 10 out of it, right?

[crimson scroll]

you can get windows 10 from your windows 7 key, yes

[crimson scroll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OupiPZybyBE @devout wolf we have a new top case in town

[noble oak]

Interesting, thanks for letting me know!

[hybrid rain]

just buy windows 10 for 3 euros from ebay

why not?

I'm using windows 10 from ebay on a few PC's never had any problems with it

lol

[unborn kiln]

There are tons of people that use licences off ebay
Its really common, and fairly safe

Linus owns a company
He will be sued if he did

[hybrid rain]

yup

[unborn kiln]

Thats probably the reason
Cause its too expensive and makes no since if you not getting it cheap

There is no real reason to activate IMO

He cant get it cheap so it makes no sense

And majority of his pcs that he build he breaks down.

[hybrid rain]

u still get updates on not activated windows or the one i use

[sturdy comet]

buying windows? omegalol

fking, for free, its illegal but no one stops you anyway

[unborn kiln]

Illegal? How?

[sturdy comet]

if you do it unpayed

and activate it

[unborn kiln]

What?

[hybrid rain]

my dad said you ont
@covert glade what.

[unborn kiln]

You do get updates

[hybrid rain]

i bought windows just because it tick's my OCD with activate windows water mark😅

[unborn kiln]

i bought windows just because it tick's my OCD with activate windows water mark😅
@hybrid rain There are ways to get rid of the watermark

[hybrid rain]

yh i knwo

know

but u have to do it every month or so

[unborn kiln]

But I also purchased windows, I found a solid deal for office and windows together and I needed Office so i bought it.

[hybrid rain]

how much did u pay if it isn't a secret?

[unborn kiln]

Approximately $2.90

Not in the US tho

[devout wolf]

don't discuss about non-official windows keys on discord, it goes against Microsoft's EULA and in turn against Discord TOS

[naive dagger]

Oof

[unborn kiln]

don't discuss about non-official windows keys on discord, it goes against Microsoft's EULA and in turn against Discord TOS
@devout wolf 👍

[hybrid rain]

F

[devout wolf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OupiPZybyBE @devout wolf we have a new top case in town
@crimson scroll

[crimson scroll]

Legitimate oem keys are fine though

You can get those cheap

[devout wolf]

yup those are fine

[naive dagger]

Saucy raichu

[noble oak]

Anyone have any problems with a 2070 Super Founds card, or anything I should know before purchasing it?

Got it, I'm planning on getting a Nvidia GeForce Rtx 2070 Super.

[crimson scroll]

founders are generally more expensive and have worse cooling

but they're fine for the right price

[supple narwhal]

any recommondations for a good motherbord for a ryzen 3700x

[devout wolf]

founders are generally more expensive and have worse cooling
@crimson scroll surprisingly the cheapest 2070S rn

any recommondations for a good motherbord for a ryzen 3700x
@supple narwhal what features are you looking for?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XJbCmG/msi-b450-a-pro-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-a-pro-max

a-pro is a good one

[crimson scroll]

yuck, msi and b450

it's max so it's not that bad at least

@covert glade you are aware of msi's practices?

that's not what i'm talking about

msi tries to coerce journalists and reporters into delaying/not releasing their reviews to make their products look more favorable

they will withhold review units or offer money

you don't see what's wrong with that?

no sense of ethics?

[devout wolf]

no

[crimson scroll]

you think it's okay for a large company to bully small journalists by saying they won't send out review units next time?

small journalists who can't necessarily affoard those units on their own?

[devout wolf]

instead of improving their product they're covering up reviews

[mellow ferry]

it doesnt matter if its business or not its misleading af

[crimson scroll]

coerce

i think that word has some weight to it

sorry, i'll use basic english

blackmail

???

[devout wolf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6BXwCJtaZE

[crimson scroll]

they already reviewed it

and then msi tries to get them to not release the review because it's not favorable

when you're a reviewer, and you ask for sample units

if you don't follow the rules or deliver the review, you get blacklisted

but if you release the review and it's negative, and the review is factual

maybe the company should make a better product

these aren't sponsored ads

they're REVIEWS

supposed to be impartial

[supple narwhal]

im looking for a very good vrm cooling with very little oc capabilities and is a full size mobo {i think its called atx not sure}

[devout wolf]

for which cpu?

and good vrms with low oc capabilities?

[crimson scroll]

well, almost any board will support overclocking to a small extent, if it's not a locked board

regardless of the chipset

[supple narwhal]

i meant where i live its usually hot so i need a good vrm heatsink and im gonna oc a littlebit not so agressive also i need 7.1 audio

[crimson scroll]

right

but what cpu

[devout wolf]

^^

[supple narwhal]

ryzen 3700x

[crimson scroll]

what's your budget

[supple narwhal]

200 dollars

[crimson scroll]

there are several m-atx boards i'd pick, they'll fit fine in a atx case

oh yeah that budget is plenty

on the b550 side

[supple narwhal]

m atx wont look good im my cabinet

[devout wolf]

a gpu fills up the empty space

matx and atx are the same height

unless you have a full size case or a 1000d it won't look off

[crimson scroll]

its 9.6x9.6 for matx, 12x9.6 for atx

it's not the same height

same width

[supple narwhal]

i do i have a thermaltake view 31

[whole lagoon]

i have x470 do i got b550 or x570

[devout wolf]

stick with x470?

[crimson scroll]

are you upgrading your cpu @whole lagoon

or else why upgrade

and what's your use case

do you need pcie4.0 direct?

[whole lagoon]

i want to go with a 3700x and like a strix mobo

[supple narwhal]

i have a silly situation guys im currently using a ryzen 1600x with a rtx 2080

[whole lagoon]

i have an asus prime x470 pro rn

[devout wolf]

same width
yeah my bad

i want to go with a 3700x and like a strix mobo
@whole lagoon strix mobos are meh

they're only for looks

[crimson scroll]

you could stick with your x470

[whole lagoon]

yeah

[devout wolf]

asus themselves say it

[whole lagoon]

okay

whats a good 5 series board then?

*brand

[devout wolf]

b550m pro4

[crimson scroll]

it's model based

not brand based

[devout wolf]

no brand is good

no brand is bad

[crimson scroll]

^

[whole lagoon]

oh ok

[crimson scroll]

gigabyte makes some of the worst boards out there

but also great ones

[whole lagoon]

yeah

[crimson scroll]

ds3h vs aorus pro

[whole lagoon]

rgb fusion almost broke my m.2 lmao

[supple narwhal]

hows asarock mobos?

[crimson scroll]

fine

bad z490

good on b550

[whole lagoon]

put my disk to 100% when i launch so now my gpu is just blue 😦

[crimson scroll]

what

[whole lagoon]

rgb fusion

aorus rgb software

[crimson scroll]

what does that have to do with your disk at 100% and your gpu turning blue

[supple narwhal]

how about ASRock B450 Steel Legend for ryzen 3700x

[naive dagger]

i have an asrock mobo

[crimson scroll]

steel legend is fine, but at that point, buy b550

[whole lagoon]

the software makes my disk go to 100% when its launched so now i cant change the color of my gpu so its just blue now