#💻-building-a-pc | SteelSeries | Page 58

noble oak Aug 12, 2020, 11:03 PM

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here

crimson scroll Aug 12, 2020, 11:04 PM

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zero point in buying a usb adapter

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it's useful for quickly plugging in, for example if you're doing tech support on a lot of computers and you just need wifi fast

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but they get hot and break more easily than pcie

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also that is clearly overpriced

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and old

noble oak Aug 12, 2020, 11:05 PM

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sooooooooooo

crimson scroll Aug 12, 2020, 11:05 PM

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so

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read what i wrote and draw conclusions

noble oak Aug 12, 2020, 11:05 PM

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sure

crimson scroll Aug 12, 2020, 11:05 PM

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i said usb is generally not preferred over pcie in most situations, and that model is overpriced and old

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do you think you should buy it

noble oak Aug 12, 2020, 11:05 PM

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hmmm ok

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you mind seeing my build to see if its compatible?

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pcile

crimson scroll Aug 12, 2020, 11:06 PM

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pcpp will tell you if it's compatible

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but sure

noble oak Aug 12, 2020, 11:06 PM

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ok

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kmD3rV

System Builder

crimson scroll Aug 12, 2020, 11:07 PM

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it's compatible

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could be optimized

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for like...the fifth time

noble oak Aug 12, 2020, 11:07 PM

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what does that mean.

crimson scroll Aug 12, 2020, 11:07 PM

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it means you could get better parts for the same price

noble oak Aug 12, 2020, 11:07 PM

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ah ok

crimson scroll Aug 12, 2020, 11:07 PM

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tr.v. op·ti·mized, op·ti·miz·ing, op·ti·miz·es

To make as perfect or effective as possible.
Computers To increase the computing speed and efficiency of (a program), as by rewriting instructions.
To make the most of.

noble oak Aug 12, 2020, 11:07 PM

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I'm not good with English so i might not know few words

mellow ferry Aug 12, 2020, 11:08 PM

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its all good dw

crimson scroll Aug 12, 2020, 11:08 PM

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what's your native language

noble oak Aug 12, 2020, 11:08 PM

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vietnamese.

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why

crimson scroll Aug 12, 2020, 11:09 PM

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just wondering

noble oak Aug 12, 2020, 11:09 PM

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k

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bye now

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@crimson scroll you wanna play siege with me?

crimson scroll Aug 12, 2020, 11:10 PM

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don't own it

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and i don't even know where you're located right now

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and i don't know your skill level

noble oak Aug 12, 2020, 11:10 PM

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oh right

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actually nvm

crimson scroll Aug 12, 2020, 11:11 PM

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thanks for the offer though

noble oak Aug 12, 2020, 11:11 PM

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yeah

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bye

full jackal Aug 13, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Bruh file too big

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One sec

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📎 video0.mp4

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this is my current keyboard noise about 6 inches to the right of it

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logitech G213 prodigy

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iphone 8 microphone

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how loud is that compared to a blue switch lol

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@hearty ravine

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idk if that vid really gives any comparison

balmy grail Aug 13, 2020, 4:01 AM

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anyone happen to have good suggestions for a wifi/bt card

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had a gc-wb867d-i but its stopped working (i suspect its gigabytes drivers. theyre from like 2018 with ver. 1803 and windows is on like 2004 now)

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 4:04 AM

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tp link has some decent ones, ac1300 for the same speeds as your gigabyte card or the newer ax3000

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for around 35-45

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Uhh guys are the cheap wireless network adapter the same? I sit right next to my wifi router.

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Please ping to tell me

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I might not respond

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 7:31 PM

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you're asking the same question...

static pecan Aug 13, 2020, 7:32 PM

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If you sit next to the router then why are you using WiFi? A hard-line connection is much more stable and reliable

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Ight I’m back

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You you want an wired wifi connection?

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Afk again

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Ping me

sturdy comet Aug 13, 2020, 8:21 PM

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You you want an wired wifi connection?
@noble oak you want to try to be always on a wired connection, since wifi is extreamly unstable

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A wired wifi connection doesn't exist... 🙄

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Really?

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I still get a perfect 500 download and 600 upload speed on wireless wifi @sturdy comet

sturdy comet Aug 13, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Still isnt stable

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Bruh

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Sure

sturdy comet Aug 13, 2020, 8:30 PM

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U wont have 100% all the time that connection

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higher ping

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Ah ok

sturdy comet Aug 13, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Idk if your gaming, but gaming on wifi is a nogo

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 8:31 PM

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In games I get like 2-1 ping

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Sooo

sturdy comet Aug 13, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Let me guess, fortnite?

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 8:32 PM

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No

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That game is bad

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Siege

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Sometimes the ping goes up to 15 😦

sturdy comet Aug 13, 2020, 8:33 PM

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1-2 ping is litterly impossible to get for games

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Lol

sturdy comet Aug 13, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Its only possible to get, if hosted from your own system

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 8:33 PM

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hacker man

sturdy comet Aug 13, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Nah, Just fake ping in game 😒

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Lol ok

sturdy comet Aug 13, 2020, 8:34 PM

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They show you that, but isnt actually that low

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Oh

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Aw

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So wireless or wired?

sturdy comet Aug 13, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Wired

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💯

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 8:34 PM

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n o

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No cap

sturdy comet Aug 13, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Y e s

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Yes cap

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 8:35 PM

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i think it's a bit hyperbole to say gaming on wifi is a nogo

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but yeah, if you have the option for wired and no specific reason to go for wireless then wired is preferred

sturdy comet Aug 13, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Well, as in fps gaming is a nogo

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Like Minecraft of smth is possible

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But a Shooter... 😩

naive dagger Aug 13, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Yeah

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Still wrong lol

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I've played csgo on good wifi and been fine

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Wireless technology now is very good

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Again, you should go wired unless you have a specific need for wireless

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But to put a blanket statement on fps gaming being a no go is wrong

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:03 PM

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My friend was talking to a guy about buying a Pc and the guy said that this pc could run games on high settings 120 fps while streaming

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https://www.cybertronpc.com/clx/kits/gmset0000001mk/configure?id=wDJr

CLX SET - Gaming PC – configure

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I thought it was to good to be true

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:06 PM

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at 1080p yes

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it has a 3700x and 2070

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but it's overpriced, like most prebuilts

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:06 PM

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while streaming though?

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:06 PM

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yes

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you can use nvenc on the 2070

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Whats that

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:06 PM

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or you can use x264 on the 3700x

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which is less preferred

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nvenc is nvidia encoder

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basically your gpu captures whatever you're rendering and encodes it so you can stream

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:07 PM

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huh

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Then what could this run while streaming

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mfmNrV

System Builder

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:09 PM

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it's about on par with the 2070s, and amd's hardware encoder is slightly worse than nvenc

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:09 PM

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should I switch to the 2070 then?

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Ay yo should I get a wired and a wireless connection?

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Or just a wired one

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wired

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Bet

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Hold up

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:10 PM

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you don't need both unless you're really worried about redundancy

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 9:10 PM

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English please

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:10 PM

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that is english

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 9:10 PM

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No more big boy words

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lmao

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:11 PM

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you don't need both unless you need 100% uptime, e.g. you always need your connection on no matter what and you want to introduce ways to keep your connection on

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in which case, you would really be running dual lan

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:11 PM

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so should I switch the the 2070 Gpu?

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Saucy

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Big boy paragraphs too?

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:11 PM

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i mean

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if you care a lot about streaming then sure, go with a 2070 or 2070 super

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:12 PM

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k thx

noble oak Aug 13, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Hot

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:12 PM

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i think i mentioned changing your ssd too

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there's been a really good deal on the sn550 1tb for under $100

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:13 PM

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k

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Well

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is this a good Gpu

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3sJmP6/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8-gb-video-card-900-1g180-2515-000****

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Video Card

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:13 PM

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and your cpu cooler is $170...

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:13 PM

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ye

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:13 PM

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which i would also change

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:13 PM

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k

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:13 PM

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yeah it's fine, but that one is the reference design which generally doesn't run as cool as third party cards

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:13 PM

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so how bout

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTCFf7/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8-gb-windforce-oc-3x-video-card-gv-n207swf3oc-8gd

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:14 PM

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its fine

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:14 PM

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k

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FZ7dBZ

System Builder

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Saucy is this bettwe

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Better*

devout wolf Aug 13, 2020, 9:20 PM

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don't get the ML240P

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get the ML240L V2

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wait

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unless i'm thinking of the wrong cooler

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yeah no that's way too much for a meh aio

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:21 PM

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i am still going to repeat myself and say get the arctic freezer II 280/360 or the EK AIO if you like rgb

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:21 PM

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o

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I never saw that

devout wolf Aug 13, 2020, 9:21 PM

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i am still going to repeat myself and say get the arctic freezer II 280/360 or the EK AIO if you like rgb
^^^

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:21 PM

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you have to wait for them to come back in stock

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but the liquid freezer II 280 is roughly 108 (higher right now due to demand) and it competes with the best 360 rads

devout wolf Aug 13, 2020, 9:22 PM

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also 3600cl18 is just 3200cl16 with more imc stress

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:22 PM

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and the p500a will have no issues fitting it

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:22 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v6fGyk

System Builder

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there

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Also

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Is my motherboard fine

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i'm not sure if I need a wifi version

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:22 PM

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it's fine

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:24 PM

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One more thing

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What exactly does a curved moniter do

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?

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:24 PM

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you kept two ssds on your list btw

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:24 PM

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fixed it

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:24 PM

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curved monitors just have a curved screen

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that's it

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can be nice if you have an ultrawide

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some people like them some hate them, it's preference

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:25 PM

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So it doesn't do anything?

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:25 PM

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it technically helps the viewing angle on the far side of the panel

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which wouldn't be an issue with many modern panels

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for TN maybe

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Could the Pc i made support dual moniters

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:26 PM

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yes

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:26 PM

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k

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thats it

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:26 PM

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note that if you want to utilize freesync over a nvidia card, you need to use displayport

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:27 PM

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what does freesync do

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:28 PM

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it lets your gpu control the refresh rate of your monitor

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so that the time that your gpu pushes out a new frame and the time your monitor refreshes to receive that new frame is exactly the same

naive dagger Aug 13, 2020, 9:28 PM

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It’s pretty awesome

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Can it go over the refresh rate of the moniter

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:28 PM

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no

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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k

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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i mean

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your fps can

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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so a 144 hrtz moniter can only go to 144 fps

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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but your monitor can't display more frames per second than it can display

naive dagger Aug 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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You can overclock your monitor though

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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you can have your gpu push out 300 frames a second and your monitor will only display 144 of them

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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oooo

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thx

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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or whatever your panel is limited to

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freesync is most useful when you get frametime fluctuations

civic apex Aug 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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I don’t recommend that though @naive dagger cuz is can damage your panel

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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below the refresh rate of your panel

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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alright

naive dagger Aug 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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All overclocking can damage the hardware

civic apex Aug 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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True

naive dagger Aug 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Personally I wouldn’t overclock the monitor

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But it’s still an option

civic apex Aug 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Yeah me neither

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:33 PM

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What does panel type mean

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for a moniter

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 9:34 PM

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the technology that the monitor uses

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the most common ones are TN, VA, and IPS

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twisted neumatic generally has the fastest response times/lowest input lag, but worse colors/contrast

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vertical alignment will have the best contrast, but more ghosting

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in plane switching will have the best colors, but more "glow"

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modern panels generally mitigate most of the downsides, so just check reviews

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:36 PM

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k

full jackal Aug 13, 2020, 9:44 PM

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VA is most expensive and harder to find usually

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Is it the best?

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 10:02 PM

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is what the best

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 10:09 PM

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VA

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 10:09 PM

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nah

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there is no "best"

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there's only a best for specific situations

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and personal preference

oblique nova Aug 13, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Just asking how many frames per second this could get while streaming and while not streaming of high settings?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TLNDtp

System Builder

crimson scroll Aug 13, 2020, 10:17 PM

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look up youtube benchmarks for the games you're interested in

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it depends on your stream settings as well

static pecan Aug 13, 2020, 11:17 PM

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There's a lot of variables when it comes to FPS in games and streaming adds even more variables to it as well. Looking up YouTube benchmarks of your CPU/GPU combo is probably the best bet like Saucy said and just assume your FPS will take a 10-20 FPS hit while streaming. That will obviously depend on you stream and game settings as well but the benchmarks will give you a good idea of the performance you'll get

sturdy comet Aug 14, 2020, 6:50 AM

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b550 tho?

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180$ 👀

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can save like 100$ right there

crimson scroll Aug 14, 2020, 7:10 AM

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it's fine

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ideally you'd go for the b550m pro4 if you're on a budget but

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the amount allotted to that build, you might as well get a high end board like the mag tomahawk

tired elk Aug 15, 2020, 2:32 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/hi-my-name-is-dave-ilike-to-party-gif-16965783

Tenor

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This is true though. Although I usually go by David

crimson scroll Aug 15, 2020, 3:42 AM

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doesn't seem very relevant to the channel

naive dagger Aug 15, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Yeah lol

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If only saucy could see my reply

noble oak Aug 15, 2020, 4:04 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6mxvPn Budget was increased so buffed the Video Card. Any changes i should make?

System Builder

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Budget is 1500 btw, right now my build is at 1400.

crimson scroll Aug 15, 2020, 5:33 AM

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i would get a different motherboard. a similarly priced competitive b550 board would be the b550m pro4

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i would also get more storage, either bump up to a 1tb ssd or add on a 2tb hdd depending on your needs

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and unless you only do competitive FPS games, i would swap to 1440p 144hz over 1080p 240+hz

full jackal Aug 15, 2020, 5:35 AM

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^

crimson scroll Aug 15, 2020, 5:45 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X2yNrV i would go for something like this

System Builder

crimson scroll Aug 15, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Just noticed the monitor doesn't have a price for me on desktop but it does on mobile, for that specific one I would wait for it to go on sale, else there are others you can get for cheaper

sturdy comet Aug 15, 2020, 8:15 AM

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wifi adapter, extra cooler?

crimson scroll Aug 15, 2020, 8:16 AM

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we're spending 1500

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why not get a better cooler

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the stock one is fine but can get hot

sturdy comet Aug 15, 2020, 8:16 AM

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well, if not going to oc

crimson scroll Aug 15, 2020, 8:16 AM

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and he had the wifi adapter in there originally

sturdy comet Aug 15, 2020, 8:16 AM

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its not worth it

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and he had the wifi adapter in there originally
@crimson scroll try and convince that he will be using a wired connection.. lol

crimson scroll Aug 15, 2020, 8:17 AM

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i don't know his situation

noble oak Aug 15, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Router won’t be in my room but like 2 rooms away. I’ll work on finding another motherboard, and upgrading ram. I’ll probably won’t need much but I might just get a better type

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And my uncle is giving me his spare cooler so we’re good on that.

sturdy comet Aug 15, 2020, 9:39 AM

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Router won’t be in my room but like 2 rooms away. I’ll work on finding another motherboard, and upgrading ram. I’ll probably won’t need much but I might just get a better type
@noble oak even a better reason to be on a cable, since walls will really affect the strenght of your connection (ofc it depends what kind of wall...but still it will affect kinda hard) 🙂

oblique nova Aug 15, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Does this motherboard have wifi?

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ASUS ROG Strix X570-E

pulsar fossil Aug 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Google says yes

oblique nova Aug 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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thx

pulsar fossil Aug 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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"Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax)"

oblique nova Aug 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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alright

pulsar fossil Aug 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-Strix-X570-E-Gaming/

ASUS Global

ROG Strix X570-E Gaming | Motherboards | ASUS Global

AMD Ryzen 3000 series ATX motherboard with Aura Sync, WiFi 6(802.11ax), 2.5G LAN, Intel 1G LAN, Dual PCIe 4.0 M.2 with heatsinks, SupremeFX and USB 3.2 Gen 2

sly grotto Aug 15, 2020, 5:00 PM

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What do you guys reckon? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LXNfwh

System Builder

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Although I think I'm gonna wait for the 30series as there have been tons of rumours about them releasing soon, especially the August 31st thing and nvidia stopping 20series production.

pulsar fossil Aug 15, 2020, 5:01 PM

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"The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with a SATA 6.0 Gb/s port. When the M.2 slot is populated, one SATA 6.0 Gb/s port is disabled."

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Have you checked that?

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Yeah, I'd wait for that as well

sly grotto Aug 15, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Yup, that's fine only gonna be using M.2 Slots

pulsar fossil Aug 15, 2020, 5:02 PM

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But you have a 2TB HDD on the list?

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That uses SATA 6 Gb/s

sly grotto Aug 15, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Motherboard has 2x M.2 Slots and 6x SATA 6Gb/s

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So that should be no problem 🙂

pulsar fossil Aug 15, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Ahh, fair. Good point :)

sly grotto Aug 15, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Yup hehe

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Tons of places to plug them into haha

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and that i5 is sick price/perf ratio, and it has a 0.5Ghz upgrades to previous gen which is neat 👌

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But obviously gonna run way hotter 😂

pulsar fossil Aug 15, 2020, 5:05 PM

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:D

sly grotto Aug 15, 2020, 5:08 PM

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and top that off with a steelseries k+m and easy wins :D

oblique nova Aug 15, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Can all computer's support double monitors? Because I have tried to get my other monitor to connect to my current pc but it never work?

devout wolf Aug 15, 2020, 8:19 PM

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most, if not all

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make sure you connect both monitors to your GPU

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and hit Win+P and select Extend

tidal hare Aug 15, 2020, 8:35 PM

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this is my set up

📎 20200623_173545.jpg

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📎 20200603_225246.jpg

naive dagger Aug 15, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Very immersive

tidal hare Aug 15, 2020, 8:47 PM

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alot of sweat building it

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all liquid cooled

balmy grail Aug 15, 2020, 9:18 PM

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holy cow thats a lot of rgb

oblique nova Aug 15, 2020, 9:20 PM

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I am looking at 2 versions of a 1440p Monitor one is 32 inch and curved and the other is 27 inch and flat

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The curved is cheaper but bigger which the 1440p might not look as good on

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which one should I get?

tidal hare Aug 15, 2020, 9:27 PM

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mine is 32in curved

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get the 32in

oblique nova Aug 15, 2020, 9:27 PM

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does 1440p still look good?

tidal hare Aug 15, 2020, 9:28 PM

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@balmy grail fans rgb all the liquiud cooling is rgb and gpu cpu ram and mobo

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it does yes

oblique nova Aug 15, 2020, 9:28 PM

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k

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th

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x

tidal hare Aug 15, 2020, 9:30 PM

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i run on 1440p and 2160p some times and they both look just as good

oblique nova Aug 15, 2020, 9:30 PM

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alright

crimson scroll Aug 15, 2020, 9:32 PM

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res and screen size looking "good" are really dependent on personal preference and how far you sit from your monitor

noble oak Aug 15, 2020, 11:58 PM

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so if Nvidia is stopping the 20 series. So can i still buy from gigabyte or other brands with the 20 series card?

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lol ping me im very braindead

devout wolf Aug 16, 2020, 12:04 AM

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20 series as a whole will stop being produced

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nvidia will stop making the chips so the AIBs can’t produce then anymore

crimson scroll Aug 16, 2020, 12:18 AM

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They'll still be in stock for a while though

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There's always latency from when an announcement is made to an action that we can see

devout wolf Aug 16, 2020, 12:19 AM

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yup

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and also the remaining of stock

noble oak Aug 16, 2020, 12:55 AM

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When you’re MacBook overheated and reached 100 degrees

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If you have a Mac, how do you cool it off please tell me

crimson scroll Aug 16, 2020, 12:56 AM

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bag of frozen peas

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or a laptop cooler

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the internal design of macs is designed with insulation so that your computer heats up and your legs don't burn

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which is silly

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have the computer vent out the sides or the back

noble oak Aug 16, 2020, 1:04 AM

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K thanks

lofty oriole Aug 16, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Just don't get a mac

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jk it's depending on what you just are gonna have or your type of work

naive dagger Aug 16, 2020, 2:59 AM

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What about a $55 grand Mac Pro 😃

crimson merlin Aug 16, 2020, 3:01 AM

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i can't stand mac software and ui tho

lofty oriole Aug 16, 2020, 3:10 AM

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I don't need any specific mac programs so I'm not gonna go mac. Even if I needed final cut pro for example I would probably use premiere

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Not sure cause I don't really do any professional work but I prefer windows and pc's instead of mac

devout heath Aug 16, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Wallpaper engine background looks familiar.

📎 image0.jpg

lofty oriole Aug 16, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Oh yeah I have that wallpaper. I don't actively use it but I saw it

noble oak Aug 16, 2020, 6:20 AM

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What do you guys think about the Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory?

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I'm thinking of using it instead of the previous ram cards I was gonna use.

devout wolf Aug 16, 2020, 6:21 AM

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it's meh i guess?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cf98TW/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvkb

G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

noble oak Aug 16, 2020, 6:39 AM

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Ok, I’ll check it out

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But um, what did I just find

📎 image0.png

devout wolf Aug 16, 2020, 6:42 AM

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LMFAO

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Doge

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basedddd

noble oak Aug 16, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Imagine someone coming over and there like “is that a microwave with a 2080 ti” and just responding with “yea”

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The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports are disabled.

tech expert please explain

devout wolf Aug 16, 2020, 7:21 AM

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if you have a SATA M.2 SSD in the top M.2 slot: two of the SATA ports won't work

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~~don't have to worry about it if you use a NVME M.2 SSD~~

crimson scroll Aug 16, 2020, 7:37 AM

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wrong

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if you use nvme, sata ports will still be disabled

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in fact, on some motherboards, depending on if you use sata, pcie x2 or x4, the number of sata ports disabled will vary

devout wolf Aug 16, 2020, 7:37 AM

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confuseddog

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ah, good to know

noble oak Aug 16, 2020, 8:56 AM

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Won't cause any problems though, right? Like generally plugging in all my stuff.

crimson scroll Aug 16, 2020, 8:56 AM

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nah

noble oak Aug 16, 2020, 10:42 AM

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K

median rivet Aug 16, 2020, 12:47 PM

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@devout heath I like the colour scheme - Exact same as mine I think

oblique nova Aug 16, 2020, 5:22 PM

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are these cases any good

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https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Tempered-Panoramic-Wall-Mount-CA-1G4-00M1WN-06/dp/B07BFGB8Z6/ref=pd_di_sccai_6/141-1592850-2880517?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07BFGB8Z6&pd_rd_r=fc0269ee-4422-4c75-9ad6-69f6c8c33eca&pd_rd_w=dk1Sx&pd_rd_wg=OU6Ls&pf_rd_p=5415687b-2c9d-46da-88a4-bbcfe8e07f3c&pf_rd_r=35DF0DCPGZ39P8K73MMR&refRID=35DF0DCPGZ39P8K73MMR&th=1

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?

frigid phoenix Aug 16, 2020, 6:05 PM

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they look good

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not sure about anything else lol

grizzled plinth Aug 16, 2020, 6:48 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

naive dagger Aug 16, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Wow that is bright

crimson merlin Aug 16, 2020, 7:48 PM

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👀

crimson scroll Aug 16, 2020, 8:33 PM

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@oblique nova its basically an open air test bench. Will have good thermals but will likely be more audible and get more dusty

oblique nova Aug 17, 2020, 12:14 AM

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alright

oblique nova Aug 17, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Whats better 165 hz with no height adjustment or 144 Hz with height adjustment

noble oak Aug 17, 2020, 3:28 AM

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I would get the 144 hz for the adjustable height, but I would only get it if you're gonna get annoyed by the height of the 165 hz.

crimson scroll Aug 17, 2020, 3:32 AM

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you're probably not gonna notice 165 vs 144 anyways

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good stands are overlooked in monitors often, unless you vesa mount

noble oak Aug 17, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Is it worth the risk to open up my MacBook to clean it so it doesn’t overheat or no?

crimson scroll Aug 17, 2020, 6:38 AM

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sure

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just look up a video of your exact model and follow step by step instructions

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and don't use a vacuum cleaner unless you have one that's anti static

noble oak Aug 17, 2020, 10:14 AM

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hm, got it

atomic dust Aug 17, 2020, 12:39 PM

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does a i7 8700k fit in a i5-8400 board

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 12:40 PM

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yes, any intel cpu from 8th to the 9th gen can fit in the 1151 v2 sockets 🙂

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if you want to overclock, it has to be a Z board tho

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 12:46 PM

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yes, any intel cpu from 8th to the latest 10th gen can fit in the 1151 v2 sockets 🙂
@sturdy comet not 10th gen

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it's LGA 1200

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 12:48 PM

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omegalol, serious? holy damn i didnt even know that.... sjezus how much can they chance and not improve? my god

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going from 1151, to 1151 v2, to 1200, and only been making 1 ''big'' improvement since gen 7 to 8..

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thats has to be a joke

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 12:56 PM

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yeah i'm stuck on 1151v1, thanks intel

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:05 PM

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well i came from a i3 4130, and i made the great choise to go on a ryzen 2600 🙂

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coz i was going for ryzen 1 first, but yeah no money, even ryzen 1 was better as intel 6-7th gen, so my choise was pretty clear already, and than when i had money ryzen 2000 was out... so even better

naive dagger Aug 17, 2020, 1:06 PM

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ryzen is pretty swag

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:06 PM

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i literally had no choice, the cheapest am4 board here is $100 and a 2600 at the time was $240

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no matter how good ryzen is i'm not overspending that much on it

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:07 PM

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well 100$ is still ''good'' for an b450 board, can be cheaper ofc... but fine

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but yeah 240$ for a 2600 nah

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got mine on black friday for 160$

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:08 PM

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by cheapest am4 board i meant a320

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:08 PM

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ouch

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:08 PM

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intel has better value here but both are equally overpriced

naive dagger Aug 17, 2020, 1:09 PM

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oof

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:09 PM

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10400f and 3600 are both $240, and intel boards are cheaper

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and 10400f outperforms the 3600

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:09 PM

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well, just to say, its just both a bad value.. but how it works in your country, its the ''best'' yeah

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:09 PM

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i'm not even gonna talk about the cost of a 3700x KEK

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$400, literally the price of a 3900x KEKREE

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newegg ships it here from the us for cheaper

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:10 PM

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well a 10400f is here 160$ aswell

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but yeah, any cool looking board

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is at least 150$

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:11 PM

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yeah, it's one good cpu to come out of 10th gen

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:11 PM

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or to cheap out on smth ugly with no extra conntions you can get it for 60$

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but yeah so ugly

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and also... 10th gen isnt worth over a ryzen tbh

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:12 PM

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10400f can be

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:12 PM

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still dont have a single clue ho long is intel gonna stick with the socket once again tho

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:12 PM

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i mean no one upgrades every generation

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:12 PM

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after 2 cpu gens switch socket? garbage to me

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:13 PM

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4th gen is gonna be the last ryzen on am4

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:13 PM

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thats about 10 times more performance that they ever created vs the same intel chip since gen 8 tho

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:15 PM

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intel just keeps stuffing more power into the same chip

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but again, the 10400f beats the 3600 since it also has hyperthreading now

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:15 PM

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yeah, and wont improving for like 1 to 5%

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:15 PM

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6 cores, 12 threads but with better single core

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:15 PM

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yeah but, 10th gen is new

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and 3000 series is older

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:15 PM

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doesn't matter

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same price point

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:15 PM

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and 4000 desktop gen will be out...

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:16 PM

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and also 7nm vs 14nm

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tbf, that's very messed up

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:16 PM

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and will be the new one for them, and i (hope) think it will beat 10th gen very easy

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:16 PM

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AMD's 7nm is closer to intel's 10nm

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i mean there is no doubt it will beat 10th gen but will also be more expensive

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:16 PM

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i dont think so

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1000, 2000, 3000 series have all been the same price here

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never gone up high in price

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:17 PM

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referencing US prices

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:17 PM

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idk about us pricing

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aint living there 🙂

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:18 PM

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US is where the products are released without import taxes and stuff skewing it

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:31 PM

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ugh, im getting a lil done.. idk where to even ask this, but im looking for an new mic & headphones, im planning to go on XLR and 6,3 jack, (also going on a UMC22 & XENYX 502) but idk which headphones & mic to grab with it, was planning to go on a DT 770 Pro, but cant really find good reviews on it that are recent. and dont need a overpriced mic that cant deliver better quality.
Using it for Competitive games (valorant)
music styles: hardstyle (and any harder styles)
budget, around 200-250 in total (for a full mic setup, arm, mic, umc22, xenyx 502, and headphones, rather spending more on a better headphone than a mic)
so any feedback is welcome

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:31 PM

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dt 770 pros are pretty good, you planning on getting the 250ohm one?

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:32 PM

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probably not, since the 80 ohm have better bass

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and i like myself some bass, which are more into these music styles

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 1:32 PM

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true

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:32 PM

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but yeah, want that highs/lows aswell for gaming for footsteps etc

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ive been into some audiophile discord to ask about headphones, but the ones i get recommended there, i find are ugly as it could be but have great quality

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but i cant stand the look of it

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and in that discord they didnt like the 770 pros at the most

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since its a reddit classic

sturdy comet Aug 17, 2020, 1:55 PM

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so yeah, im kinda lost in for what to look for

dire hemlock Aug 17, 2020, 7:16 PM

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just don't buy intel

crimson merlin Aug 17, 2020, 7:20 PM

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😂

devout wolf Aug 17, 2020, 7:46 PM

#

1_BlobRollingEyes

crimson scroll Aug 17, 2020, 8:34 PM

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what a bad take

last grotto Aug 17, 2020, 9:35 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

System Builder

crimson scroll Aug 17, 2020, 9:54 PM

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that's just the default editor

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it won't link your custom list

noble oak Aug 18, 2020, 12:53 AM

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When you want to mount your monitor to the wall but your dad doesnt want holes in the wall

crimson merlin Aug 18, 2020, 1:01 AM

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👀 really

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i want a regular headset stand

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but my dad rather drill holes in the wall than buy one

noble oak Aug 18, 2020, 1:20 AM

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dam.

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i recommend those like clothing hooks that goes on doors, that can be a good headset stand

crimson merlin Aug 18, 2020, 1:31 AM

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hmm

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~~i need RGB on everything~~

noble oak Aug 18, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Haha

crimson scroll Aug 18, 2020, 1:33 AM

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just buy rgb strips for cheap if you really want

crimson merlin Aug 18, 2020, 1:33 AM

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e

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hmm

noble oak Aug 18, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Uhh guys what the difference between an RTX 2070 and a RTX 2070 super?

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Ping me to tell me

crimson scroll Aug 18, 2020, 2:43 AM

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this is like asking the difference between a 1080 and a 1080ti

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it's just more powerful

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more cuda cores, more rtx-ops, giga rays

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@noble oak

noble oak Aug 18, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Lol thanks

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:09 PM

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just don't buy intel
@dire hemlock Just dont think like this😉

dire hemlock Aug 18, 2020, 3:10 PM

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I'm not wrong intel sucks now

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:13 PM

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I use AMD but if you can get a similar priced intel chip for the same or cheaper price you should 100% consider it.
I do however agree that intel is doing poorly at the moment, hence the reason I choose AMD.

All I am saying is that don't throw away that option...

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It also highly depends on your use case.

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Just my take

dire hemlock Aug 18, 2020, 3:17 PM

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I see I thought you were going to say intel is better than amd

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 3:17 PM

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thank you

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I'm not wrong intel sucks now
why do they suck again?

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:20 PM

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why do they suck again?
@devout wolf AMD is just currently doing, if I can put it this way, Everything right for the consumer and intel is more profit aimed. unfortunately that put intel far behind in a lot of aspects

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 3:21 PM

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mhm

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Or maybe not unfortunately🤔 I think its abot time tbh

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 3:21 PM

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but it's annoying when fanboys deny to see when intel actually releases a decent cpu

dire hemlock Aug 18, 2020, 3:22 PM

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I mean I used to have an intel system I just switched not long ago

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Ok

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my last 5 builds or so have all been AMD

naive dagger Aug 18, 2020, 3:23 PM

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my only build is red

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 3:24 PM

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i am all for amd, they're cool and i hate intel for putting a wall in front of my upgrade path

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stuck on 7th gen and i'm stuck with it for another 3 years

naive dagger Aug 18, 2020, 3:24 PM

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my gpu is red as well

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:25 PM

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What are your specs?

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Just out of curiosity

naive dagger Aug 18, 2020, 3:25 PM

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who

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me

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Yeah

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If you don mind sharing

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 3:25 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/RafeeSamith/saved/chLZf7

My Build

naive dagger Aug 18, 2020, 3:25 PM

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rx 570 8gb

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 3:25 PM

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oh nvm

naive dagger Aug 18, 2020, 3:26 PM

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ryzen 5 3600

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8gb 2400mhz ram (ik its slow)

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16 gb sorry

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 3:26 PM

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rip

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what timings on your ram?

naive dagger Aug 18, 2020, 3:26 PM

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asrock fatal1ty b450 mobo

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2tb hdd, 240gb sata ssd, 120gb m.2

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idk rafee

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Not too shabby
Next upgrade should defiantly be GPU

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 3:27 PM

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ram too

naive dagger Aug 18, 2020, 3:27 PM

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100% agree omar

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Why would you say that?

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 3:27 PM

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well, 2400mhz on ryzen

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:27 PM

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@devout wolf

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 3:27 PM

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see anything wrong?

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Yeah I do

naive dagger Aug 18, 2020, 3:28 PM

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its kinda slow

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 3:28 PM

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not kinda

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very

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:28 PM

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If it was mine would go with a GPU upgrade then ram

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 3:28 PM

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ryzen has a ton of latency from the infinity fabric, so it relies on low latency ram to perform better

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it's being held back tbh and a small ram upgrade would go a long way

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or try to tune your memory, overclock it or lower the timings

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:29 PM

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In gaming the bottleneck would be the gpu
If that is your focus then upgrade GPU

If you are using your pc more for multitasking then do RAM

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 3:29 PM

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or set your fclk to 1800 or as far as it goes

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ram is also a bottleneck ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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if the ram is holding the cpu back then a gpu upgrade won't do much

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i'm not saying to get more ram

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i'm saying to get faster ram

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like 3200 cl16, or more

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:30 PM

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I know

naive dagger Aug 18, 2020, 3:30 PM

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yes i agree

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 3:30 PM

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it doesn't matter if you're multitasking or just gaming, ram effects ryzen a lot

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tuning ram gets you more of a performance boost than overclocking the cpu even

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none of this exists on intel because of their very fast ring bus

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:31 PM

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I know, they both need an upgrade

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Just would do GPU first

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Or preferably both together

naive dagger Aug 18, 2020, 3:32 PM

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ofc

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give me money

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lol

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:36 PM

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For me personally the reason i would go with GPU first is because even a small increase in FPS is pretty important to me. Upgrading RAM while having a RX 580 doesn't make much sense from a gaming point of view. In my opinion There will be a very small performance boost.

But I will try to get both soon after each other

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 3:37 PM

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it does affect gaming performance too

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and it's more than a small increase

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 3:44 PM

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More then a new GPU?

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 4:09 PM

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depends on which gpu

unborn kiln Aug 18, 2020, 4:18 PM

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smh

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Ok

tribal schooner Aug 18, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Rysen 5 3600 AMD

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B450M D3SH

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Power Spec 550 wat power supply

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Those are some good PC parts

devout wolf Aug 18, 2020, 5:11 PM

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i wouldn't call a ds3h good tbh

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same for microcenter's psus, they're aight. nothing great

crimson scroll Aug 18, 2020, 7:32 PM

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You're looking at around 7 to 20% increase in frames depending on the game when you go from 2400 to 3733 with good subtimings

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On the latest ryzen chips

hearty ravine Aug 18, 2020, 7:57 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TPYXK4 @vale flower

System Builder

vale flower Aug 18, 2020, 7:57 PM

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@hearty ravine thx

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antthing i should change

crimson scroll Aug 18, 2020, 8:20 PM

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what is this build for?

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and what budget

brittle wind Aug 18, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Can I get a 1900 pc

crimson scroll Aug 18, 2020, 8:34 PM

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for what

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gaming, video production, 3d modeling, etc

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and I assume that's in USD

sturdy comet Aug 18, 2020, 9:24 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TPYXK4 @vale flower
@hearty ravine what is this list tho....

System Builder

vale flower Aug 18, 2020, 9:25 PM

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imma start editing and gaming i have no limits

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well

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no threadripper

keen berry Aug 18, 2020, 9:27 PM

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are you trying to mix/match the RAM with white and black? that would IMO be a cool design

vale flower Aug 18, 2020, 9:30 PM

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yes

keen berry Aug 18, 2020, 9:30 PM

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your storage options confuse me. 1TB boot drive. but the 1TB and 2TB SSD's then the 4TB spinner? i get the HDD for storage but why not get two 2TB ssd's?

vale flower Aug 18, 2020, 9:30 PM

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im dumb

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lol so should i get the m.2 2tb

keen berry Aug 18, 2020, 9:32 PM

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i would keep the 1TB m2. but get two 2TB SATA drives and put them in RAID 1 to help with data integrity. don't want to loose any video files because drive failure. then back files up to the 4TB. also send a copy to cloud

crimson scroll Aug 18, 2020, 9:48 PM

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for video editing, i would get more nvme honestly

#

your bottleneck will be the slowest drive when transferring files

#

also i would switch to a p500a over the h510 elite

#

and yeah, the external hard drive should probably match the 4tb internal if you want to have it as a backup

#

and i would say it's smarter to have 2x16 sticks than 2 2x8 sticks, it's less work on your memory controller, but for aesthetics i guess if you really care, stick with the white and black

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and swap out the x63 for a EK AIO 360 or Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280/360

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also, 3950x isn't threadripper

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you could get that

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and swap out the ram for 3600cl16 or lower, no point in getting 3600cl18 when we're splurging

crimson merlin Aug 19, 2020, 1:56 AM

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ok, so I'm thinking of adding a monitor to my current laptop setup, I don't have lots of room on my desk. Anyone know of any good budget gaming monitor?

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by budget i mean under $200

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 2:04 AM

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lots of 144hz 1080p monitors at like $150

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AOC C24G1, Pixio PX247, Acer VG240Y

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all 24"

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:13 AM

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Intel i7-7800k - rtx 2070 bottleneck

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?

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:13 AM

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nah

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did you mean 7800X though?

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or 8700k?

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:14 AM

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8700k

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yea

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:14 AM

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because the 7800k doesn't exist

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both won't bottleneck anyways

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:14 AM

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Yea

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Okay

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 8:14 AM

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not really, also there isn't much point in getting a 2070

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when the 2060 super exists

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:14 AM

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2070 super?

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:14 AM

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yeah

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good card

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still won't bottleneck

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:14 AM

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Ok

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Does 8700k fit on i5 8400 board

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:15 AM

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yes but

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which board

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because if you bought a non Z series board

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no point in the k processors

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:15 AM

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^^

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Well

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The 8700 isnt on amazon anymore

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Only the 8700k

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 8:16 AM

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$320 for 6c/12t... coffee lake was a meme lmao

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:16 AM

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why are you trying to buy it from amazon

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:16 AM

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Idk

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:16 AM

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like

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only reason to buy one is used

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:16 AM

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8700k is here 400$ @devout wolf

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 8:16 AM

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lmao

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:17 AM

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il let my i.t guy buy the stuff

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:17 AM

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that even a bigger joke

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:17 AM

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it's two generations old

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 8:17 AM

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could get a 3700x+b450 for that

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:17 AM

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why not get something new

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:17 AM

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ikr

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:17 AM

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a 10600k + z490

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:17 AM

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I dont wanna build an whole entire new pc

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:17 AM

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i mean

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you never mentioned what board you're using

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:17 AM

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what are you going to do with it tho?

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:17 AM

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you can keep your gpu, ram, ssd/hdd, case, etc

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:18 AM

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Gaming

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:18 AM

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it just depends on what board your 8400 is using

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because if it's not Z, you might as well buy a new board anyways

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 8:18 AM

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it's not worth upgrading the cpu when it costs the same as a platform upgrade with none of the advantages

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:18 AM

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^

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:18 AM

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only gaming, or gaming with some background programs open like discord/google, maybe some audio software tc?

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:18 AM

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oh please

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:18 AM

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Yes

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:18 AM

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background programs are nothing

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:18 AM

#

Yea

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:19 AM

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that's not what we'd define as real multitasking to warrant ryzen over intel for pure gaming

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:19 AM

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well, its ''nothing'' but since intel insta goes to 100% load to play a game

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 8:20 AM

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wtfstare

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wot

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:20 AM

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lol

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look man

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i'm all for AMD making up more ground

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but to say that you can't have discord spotify and chrome open while playing the witcher 3 or something

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that's ridiculous

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come back when you're rendering a project and playing a game

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:20 AM

#

Like

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Im on a budget

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:21 AM

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i think we need the full picture

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what are your current parts

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:21 AM

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And i have a i5-8400

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:21 AM

#

what's your budget

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 8:21 AM

#

but to say that you can't have discord spotify and chrome open while playing the witcher 3 or something
cries in 4 threads

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:21 AM

#

use pcpp to make your parts list please

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:21 AM

#

600-700 buckies

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I dont know nothing about my pc

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I didnt build it

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:22 AM

#

time to download hwinfo and find out then

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or speccy

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:22 AM

#

Like what do you need

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All the parts or

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:23 AM

#

your cpu, mobo, gpu, ram, ssd, hdd, case

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all the parts

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monitor too

#

https://www.hwinfo.com/ you can use this to find out a lot of parts

HWiNFO

hwinfo

HWiNFO - Free System Information, Monitoring and Diagnostics

Free Hardware Analysis, Monitoring and Reporting. In-depth Hardware Information, Real-Time System Monitoring, Reporting & more

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:23 AM

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Lg 34 inch 60 ghz refresh rate

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:23 AM

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1080p? ultrawide?

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:23 AM

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Idk the model number

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I think 1440p

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:24 AM

#

k

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:24 AM

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No ultra wide

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:24 AM

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okay, so 2560x1440p @60hz

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:24 AM

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yup

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:24 AM

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great

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download hwinfo and i'll walk you through what to do

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:25 AM

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All i know is that mypc is a hp

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:25 AM

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well, i have guesses that it's gonna be 2133 or 2400mhz ram, an H series board, maybe a WD green SSD

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:26 AM

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just download the damn program

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xd

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:26 AM

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Ok

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10 minutes

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:26 AM

#

it helps saucy a lot 🙂

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:26 AM

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Gotta brekfest

hybrid rain Aug 19, 2020, 8:32 AM

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I have an intel i5 9600KF and its working just fine i dont really care if it is intel or amd but amd run hotter thats a fact

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:33 AM

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hooter?

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hmm mweh

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my 2600 on stock doesnt reach high temps

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on heavy load

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 8:34 AM

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I have an intel i5 9600KF and its working just fine i dont really care if it is intel or amd but amd run hotter thats a fact
a fact in 2007 lmao

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:34 AM

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^^

hybrid rain Aug 19, 2020, 8:34 AM

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lolz

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maybe im wrong i dont know

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:34 AM

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I like when people pull baseless facts out

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Or vague statements

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:34 AM

#

ryzen is smth different against old amd chips

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:34 AM

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Bulldozer did indeed run hot

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Modern ryzen not as much

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Amd also includes far superior stock coolers for most of their lineup

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Even for their overclockable chips

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Intel doesn't

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And when you oc Intel, you increase power draw significantly

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That means more heat, it's physics

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Ryzen doesn't oc as high

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I'm simplifying it a lot and if you wanted to do exotic that's a whole other matter

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:36 AM

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just, if amd C/T with the clock speeds of intel 👀

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if that will ever happen... we done

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 8:36 AM

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amd's architecture is also smaller while intel keeps stuffing more power into 14nm

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just, if amd C/T with the clock speeds of intel 👀
@sturdy comet eh overclocking ryzen doesn't get much

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:37 AM

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i know

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:37 AM

#

hes saying imagine a r5 with 10600k clocks and ipc

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 8:37 AM

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also 10th gen now has smt so...

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oh

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:37 AM

#

or vice versa

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:37 AM

#

okay what do i need to install

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:37 AM

#

hwinfo

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https://www.hwinfo.com/

HWiNFO

hwinfo

HWiNFO - Free System Information, Monitoring and Diagnostics

Free Hardware Analysis, Monitoring and Reporting. In-depth Hardware Information, Real-Time System Monitoring, Reporting & more

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:38 AM

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hes saying imagine a r5 with 10600k clocks and ipc
@crimson scroll this ^^

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:38 AM

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okay

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im on the page

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:39 AM

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download it

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big button in the middle

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:39 AM

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okay

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:39 AM

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can't miss it

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:39 AM

#

what now?

📎 Screenshot_71.png

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:39 AM

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then select installer

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:39 AM

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okay

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what free download button now

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:40 AM

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local (us)

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:40 AM

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okay great

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:40 AM

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save and run

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or just run

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idk what browser you're on

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:40 AM

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okay

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i have setup the exe

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:40 AM

#

k

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run it

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:41 AM

#

how

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what od i click

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:41 AM

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double click the saved file

hybrid rain Aug 19, 2020, 8:41 AM

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😄

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:41 AM

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uh i mean

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:41 AM

#

hwi_628

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:41 AM

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i am in the app

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:41 AM

#

oh

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:41 AM

#

it has a tick box

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sensors only

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summary only

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:41 AM

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nah

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just run

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📎 unknown.png

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you should see something like this

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:42 AM

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yes

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i am

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:43 AM

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screenshot and show me

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 8:43 AM

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foobar 👀

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:43 AM

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how i do

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screenshot

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 8:43 AM

#

win+shift+s

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:43 AM

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windows + shift + s

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or windows + prtscn

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 8:44 AM

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can't believe i started looking for prtscn on my tkl keyboard facepalm

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:44 AM

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then ctrl v in here

hybrid rain Aug 19, 2020, 8:44 AM

#

📎 pc.PNG

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:))

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:44 AM

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nice

hybrid rain Aug 19, 2020, 8:45 AM

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i payed 700 eur i think

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:45 AM

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it'd also be super helpful if you clicked on the memory module dropdown and screenshotted that separately

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📎 unknown.png

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like so

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:45 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

hybrid rain Aug 19, 2020, 8:45 AM

#

igitg

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:46 AM

#

i have 8gb sticks insteado f 1 16gb

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:46 AM

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2 of them?

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:46 AM

#

of*

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:46 AM

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that's good enough

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:46 AM

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yup

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2 of the same 8gb samsung sticks

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:46 AM

#

k

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:46 AM

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should i upgrade or mno?

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:46 AM

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it's...fine

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kinda slow for ryzen

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:46 AM

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ok

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im running a i5 so

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:47 AM

#

2666 cl19-19-19-43 is pretty atrocious

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anyways

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that motherboard looks like hot garbage since it's H

hybrid rain Aug 19, 2020, 8:47 AM

#

i have 8+8 gb of rams

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:47 AM

#

you have a nvme drive though

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we can reuse that

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the 1tb hdd is reusable

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:48 AM

#

i said i dont need to build a new pc.

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:48 AM

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not sure on the model of that 500gb ssd but also reusable

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yeah

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the important stuff i needed was the motherboard and gpu

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:48 AM

#

500gb is my external 500gb

hybrid rain Aug 19, 2020, 8:48 AM

#

i need to upgrade and buy my self a hhd

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:48 AM

#

ssd

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:48 AM

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ok makes sense

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:48 AM

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that 1060 3gb tho

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thats a yikers

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:48 AM

#

ik i want to upgrade that

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i just need to upgrade gpu and cpu

hybrid rain Aug 19, 2020, 8:49 AM

#

the 1660 super is pretty good so far

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:49 AM

#

well, i would spend around 400 on cpu + mobo, 250 on gpu, and 50 on ram

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that would be my distribution

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:49 AM

#

would spend more on a gpu tho

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:50 AM

#

i just need somthing to run beamng on good graphics and some other games

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:50 AM

#

lets say it like this, from a 8400 you cant really improve performance on that socket

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:50 AM

#

you can, but not as much as you should

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:50 AM

#

without spending all my money on my i.t guy trying to replace all the parts and allmost rebuilding my whole pc

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:51 AM

#

you can, but not as much as you should
exactly

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:51 AM

#

send me a part list then

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:52 AM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bCPzq3

System Builder

#

alternatively swap down to the 1660super to save some money

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:52 AM

#

nanananana saucy

#

get that 550 out of here, get a cheaper b450, and throw that 2060 to a 5700xt...

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

#

nah

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

#

since that is something way better

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

#

it's a good b550

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

#

im in germany tho

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

#

well

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

#

its good, but 120$ for nothing

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

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should've said that

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

#

how am i gonna get those parts

#

also

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

#

so

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6-700 euros?

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

#

im kinda intel guy

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

#

or still dollars

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

#

germany = euros

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

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i know

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but he put a dollar sign

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:54 AM

#

so can you pick me one intel cpus

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:54 AM

#

everyone does

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:54 AM

#

he may have been converting for me

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:54 AM

#

euros

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:54 AM

#

i could

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but it's not a great choice

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:54 AM

#

600-700 euros

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:54 AM

#

the 10400 is the equivalent intel cpu

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and it's locked

#

it'll do fine in games, but it'll likely show its age faster

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:54 AM

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also like i need to pay my builder too

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:54 AM

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i disagree with the notion of being an "intel" guy or "amd" guy

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 8:54 AM

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okay il take amd

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:55 AM

#

if you're paying a builder

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why not have them make a parts list

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surely they know the german market better than me

#

anyways, the list still stands

#

go for a r5 3600, 3600cl16 2x8gb ram, and preferably the b550m pro4

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📎 unknown.png

#

solid motherboard choices at around the 120usd/euro range

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i don't see any prices on pcpp DE for 5700s, but you can flash a 5700xt bios onto those and get more performance

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 8:59 AM

#

isnt he better off with smth like this? @crimson scroll https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/XKmFyk

System Builder

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 8:59 AM

#

or just stick with the 2060

#

2 fan headers, meh bios, not the aorus pro with good vrms

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:00 AM

#

could go with a lil better mobo, but i sticked exactly on the 700 mark, spend 20 more and get a tomahawk max

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:01 AM

#

i try not to support msi anymore

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:01 AM

#

still best b450 out there

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:01 AM

#

and you can get b550 with equivalent vrms

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for the same price

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:01 AM

#

yeah, but its kinda overpriced

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:01 AM

#

a tomahawk max is 119 euros

#

the b550m i linked is 119 euros

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that's the same price

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 9:02 AM

#

b550 are far superior in vrm quality

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:02 AM

#

in general

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it varies model to model

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 9:02 AM

#

true

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:02 AM

#

ive got this one myself as mobo https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/ByrVV7

System Builder

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:02 AM

#

the one i linked has equivalent vrms though

#

it's all a bit overblown i guess since its just a 3600

#

but a good motherboard should hold its value longer anyways

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 9:02 AM

#

doesn't the b450 aorus elite have almost ds3h vrms?

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:03 AM

#

if you ever decide to slot in a better cpu, or to sell

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i don't remember

#

i know the aorus pro is good

#

the b550 aorus elite apparently has 12+2, which is decent

#

again, overkill for a 3600

#

anyways, msi is a shitty company and has been publicly outed as trying to extort journalists and reviewers to favor them

#

i'm sure other companies are like that but it hasn't been reported on to the same extent

#

b450 tomahawk max is a good board, but surpassed now

#

if you're in a region where it's still the cheapest/best price perf, that's fine, but in a lot of places there's no point to it

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:07 AM

#

but still not worth to go 550 if he doesnt have the money for it tho

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:07 AM

#

so im back

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:07 AM

#

it's the same freaking price

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as your tomahawk max

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:07 AM

#

rather get a 450 in there and a better gpu

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changed the list

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im just saying, if he is really stuck to that budget, its not worth to get just better vrms while you can get a better gpu for that..

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if he can go over alittle

#

yeah ofc go for that

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:08 AM

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if he's stuck to that budget it's weird to pick up nearly the cheapest b450 board with a 5700xt

#

building pcs is about being balanced, for the most part

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:09 AM

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well not cheapest

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:09 AM

#

nearly

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:09 AM

#

https://www.saturn.de/de/product/_hp-pavilion-tp01-0318ng-2604660.html

Saturn

HP Pavilion TP01-0318ng, Desktop PC mit Core™ i5 Prozessor, 8 GB RA...

HP Pavilion TP01-0318ng, Desktop PC mit Core™ i5 Prozessor, 8 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD, 1 TB HDD, Intel® UHD Grafik 630 im...

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:09 AM

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and the aorus elite is good enough tho

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:09 AM

#

this is my current pc

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like only the case

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:09 AM

#

then pick up the cheapest b550 for 80, it'll be good enough

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:09 AM

#

the specs are completely off

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:09 AM

#

that case looks like it has no airflow

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:10 AM

#

it does

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:10 AM

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:10 AM

#

its like a cover

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:10 AM

#

then pick up the cheapest b550 for 80, it'll be good enough
@crimson scroll if there are any goods of them, hell yeah go for that

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:10 AM

#

specially designed so it lets air trough

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:10 AM

#

uhh

#

look man

#

that sounds like marketing bs

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:11 AM

#

but im just kinda used that 550's are kinda expensive

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:11 AM

#

yea ik

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:11 AM

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i don't see anywhere for air to go in

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:11 AM

#

i took the cover off

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:11 AM

#

well...

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:11 AM

#

perfectly running

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:11 AM

#

i see one vent on the side

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so you lose 30% of the airflow on the bend

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:11 AM

#

i have the previous model

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:11 AM

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good thing you took the cover off

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:11 AM

#

perfectly running? meanwhile you didnt even know you specs, i dont think you know if its good or not tbh

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:12 AM

#

those two aren't mutually exclusive

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:12 AM

#

i did know

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:12 AM

#

a system can be bad and run perfectly fine

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:12 AM

#

yes true.

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:12 AM

#

i can run a pentium g4560 and have it run perfectly fine

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 9:12 AM

#

yeah the b450 aorus elite vrms are low end

#

same as ds3h

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:12 AM

#

don't insult people theelepel

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:12 AM

#

ment as in airflow

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:12 AM

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then how do specs have to do with airflow

#

that's mostly a function of the case

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and he clearly posted the case

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:13 AM

#

whould your board you picked fit in the case?

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:13 AM

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it should, i picked m-atx

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i'd be more worried about the gpu

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:14 AM

#

yea

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not my model

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 9:14 AM

#

and the aorus elite is good enough tho
it's really not, especially not in a case that lacks good airflow

atomic dust Aug 19, 2020, 9:14 AM

#

my model has as said gtx 1060 3gb

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 9:14 AM

#

even the b450m pro4 beats it

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:14 AM

#

the b550m pro4 is the best value mobo

#

the b450m pro4 is a good choice if you're on a really tight budget

#

yeah, i mean i'd be worried about video card length and thickness

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 9:15 AM

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i like pro4 peepoHappy

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:15 AM

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you'd have to measure to make sure

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that's the issue with OEM cases

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:15 AM

#

then go with this i would say https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/vs7CGc

System Builder

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:15 AM

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i like that list

#

that's the one i made

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except i didn't go over budget

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wow! you listened to facts and arrived at the same conclusion i did

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:16 AM

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dont insult people

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:16 AM

#

i didn't

#

i noted an interesting fact

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:16 AM

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you can still go cheaper on the ram tho...

#

if the budget is that tight to 700

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:16 AM

#

true

sturdy comet Aug 19, 2020, 9:17 AM

#

but i rather stick with a 5700xt and a little slower ram that isnt even noticeable most of the time

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then a 2060

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:17 AM

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cheaper on amazon, will be in stock in a week or two

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for 109 euros

#

you save 20 euros that way for the motherboard

devout wolf Aug 19, 2020, 9:17 AM

#

what is up with c omegalul rsair and 3600cl20 sticks

crimson scroll Aug 19, 2020, 9:17 AM

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corsair has great branding

#

kinda meh products

#

a $130 rgb light stick