#💻-building-a-pc

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crimson scroll
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which one do you think will be louder

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and do you think results are comparable

rich sedge
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maybe the arctic is louder?

crimson scroll
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and like i said, i don't know anything about the mars fans

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you're missing the point

rich sedge
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ok

devout wolf
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now that i think about it, i've never really cared for fan noise

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i just put headphones on and leave my fans at 100%

crimson scroll
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lol

rich sedge
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lol

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pog

chilly edge
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I have the arctic F12 fans in my PC actually

rich sedge
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cool

noble oak
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Anybody know what "XC" and "KO" mean in terms of graphics card
PING ME TOO

crimson scroll
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XC is just EVGA's way of branding stuff. KO means that that specific series of 2060 uses a pared down 2080 chip, the TU104 instead of TU106 @noble oak

noble oak
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k

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then why in the hell does "KC" cost more money than "KO"

crimson scroll
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XC means triple slot i believe

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a larger heatsink

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XC and KO aren't necessarily exclusive, EVGA just didn't make a 2060 XC KO model

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there's the 2070 XC Black Gaming and the 2070 Black Gaming

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it's just an additional modifier if you will

late carbon
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Anyone know how to fix live kernel event 141

crimson scroll
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looks like a gpu issue

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try reinstalling drivers

noble oak
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How does saucy still have the rookie role he’s always answering our questions 😂

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Anyways how my final part list look?

crimson scroll
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i would get a more airflow focused case

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also the sn550 is the same price as the wd blue right now

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i'd get that

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do you care about rgb @noble oak

noble oak
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Oh dude don’t worry about the case it has 2 modes I can remove the top panel and side one to a mesh one for air flow

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but RHB isn’t a worry)

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*RGB

crimson scroll
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it's just kinda expensive

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170 bucks for that

noble oak
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Oh thanks dude! For sure will check it out

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Yea, I’ll switch out my SSD too. It said it has fast boot up times, and really I picked the SSD the fastest

crimson scroll
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yeah

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you won't notice a difference between the wd blue and sn550 in most consumer tasks

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but hopefully games start making use of those faster speeds, and at the same price, why not get the better drive, right?

noble oak
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Yea, and the case looks pretty good. Matches my desk color, but I’ll check it out

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Thanks again!

crimson scroll
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np

noble oak
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Saucy, planning on getting the non RGB since the RGB fans really aren’t gonna look good when it’s the only things RGB

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Is there any downsides to that?

crimson scroll
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you'll have to buy two extra fans instead of one

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but no downsides really

noble oak
narrow parrot
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thank you

devout wolf
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XC means triple slot i believe
@crimson scroll all the Ultras are triple slot

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XC is just the best founders card

crimson scroll
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oh ok

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i don't keep up with their naming schemes

devout wolf
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yeah i just learnt about it yesterday lol

gusty torrent
devout wolf
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no

gusty torrent
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no what

clear jacinth
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cpu mainly

devout wolf
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everything

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everything is just... nope

gusty torrent
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ok i will with something better

chilly edge
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Personally i'd rather use intel, and get an (internal) SSD instead of a second HDD

devout wolf
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there's a lot more wrong with the list

crimson scroll
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yeah um

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that list is...interesting

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32gb of ram with a 9th gen i3

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what's your budget @gusty torrent

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and what are you using the PC for

gusty torrent
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oh this for the future no rn

crimson scroll
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okay well

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still

gusty torrent
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gaming

crimson scroll
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then yeah, this sucks. no offense

static pecan
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@gusty torrent don't get an i3 lol. At the very least get an AMD Ryzen 3 3300 with a B450 ATX motherboard. If you go with an R3 3300 there's no need for a third party CPU cooler as the one boxed with the 3300 will be more than adequate. You only need 16GB of RAM, not 32, and you need at least one small SSD for storage even if you keep an HDD for mass storage of files, games, etc.

gusty torrent
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but i am thinking of a new one

crimson scroll
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still, what's your budget

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so we can make you a better one

gusty torrent
crimson scroll
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thats like

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the same thing

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literally the same link

gusty torrent
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woops let me give you the right one

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alright its the right thing

crimson scroll
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better

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but several issues

devout wolf
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wow the link is only one character different

crimson scroll
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one, get a cheaper ssd. A p1, sn550, sn750, etc. will be cheaper and pretty much equivalent, especially for gaming

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two, a 1660 super will be only like twenty bucks more than the 1660. use the money saved from the SSD for that

gusty torrent
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sorry wrong thing again i dont know why its not working properley

crimson scroll
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3, the lian li lancool non mesh is meh for thermals. if you like the looks and can't give it up, whatever, but i recommend the lancool II mesh version or another airflowf ocused case

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oh and 4, don't get the 3600x

devout wolf
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also, don't get a 3600x

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oof

crimson scroll
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the regular 3600 is 60 bucks cheaper

devout wolf
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beat me to it

crimson scroll
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and can OC to the same perf, minus maybe like 0.5%

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but it's a much better list for gaming

gusty torrent
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hold on that was the wrong one

crimson scroll
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Lol k

gusty torrent
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alright its the right thing i am sure

devout wolf
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that's-

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don't copy from your address bar

crimson scroll
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Haha

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Also you don't have to say it's the wrong thing if you're changing it

gusty torrent
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so what do you think

crimson scroll
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Dude

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Read what rafee said

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That's the link to edit... It's not a unique parts list

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It just pulls up everybody's system builder list

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We won't see what parts you put

devout wolf
crimson scroll
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firefox, nice

devout wolf
gusty torrent
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i was copying that one but it was bringing me to a build that was not mine

crimson scroll
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🤔

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you sure

gusty torrent
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i was sure

crimson scroll
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just tell us your budget

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seems to be around 1k usd, right?

gusty torrent
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sure

crimson scroll
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the tomahawk max is around 120, which brings the total to 890 before the psu gets added in

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pretty close to your original list price, with double the storage

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and you can always add a hard drive later if you need more

gusty torrent
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yeah sorry to tell you this but my budget is around 2k usd you dont have to make me a new one if you dont want to but you can if you want to and if you are gonna i will be using the pc for gaming and streaming

crimson scroll
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...

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why tell me your budget is 1k then

gusty torrent
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oh sorry i wasn't thinking strait i just said yes to what you said without thinking

crimson scroll
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at a 2k budget we can go 2080super

gusty torrent
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ok well just send the link

crimson scroll
devout wolf
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i'd recommend putting in a 2x16gb kit instead of 4x8

crimson scroll
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32gb of b die memory, one of the top tier liquid coolers, a 2080 super, 1tb of one of the best nvme 1.3 ssds, and a nice rgb case

devout wolf
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it's too much stress on the IMC

crimson scroll
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lol

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true

devout wolf
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b die tho GWjiangoNoice

crimson scroll
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after factoring in the prices that aren't displayed its about 1930

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650w is fine for that honestly

gusty torrent
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i really like it but quick question this is full pc build just the pc i am just wondering

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also do you think that the case can change but still compatible just have a price tag on it

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there is also some compatibility issues so if you can please fix that

devout wolf
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they aren't compatibility issues

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just notes

clear jacinth
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^^

gusty torrent
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oh ok

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yes this will be my pc in the future except for one question is a full build yes or no

devout wolf
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by full build you mean if all the parts are in the list?

gusty torrent
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like all the parts a pc needs to run properly and also give me your rating do you think this is high end or low end or like in the middle

devout wolf
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well it's high end for gaming

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and yes all the essential pc parts are in there

crimson scroll
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it doesn't have a monitor, wifi card/ethernet cable, mouse, keyboard, headset

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and yeah, zero compatibility issues

gusty torrent
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ok good then this will be my build for the future

crimson scroll
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if you wanted productivity, it's medium-high

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really good gpu for encoding and stuff, but you can do better on the cpu

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and for gaming it's top tier, you'd see improvements going to intel but i wouldn't, too expensive

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also, i would strongly recommend 1440p 144hz, 4k 60hz, or 4k 120hz monitors for this setup

gusty torrent
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thank you guys because i was about to by a streaming pc and gaming pc pre built from corsair and it was like gonna be almost 7k usd

crimson scroll
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lol

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the corsair one?

gusty torrent
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streaming yes gaming the a4100

crimson scroll
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well, this is a single pc setup

gusty torrent
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thats ok

static holly
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hi

crimson scroll
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hi

static holly
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hru

gusty torrent
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oh that was my friend

crimson scroll
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do you need pc help

gusty torrent
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he has a whole fortnite setup

crimson scroll
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i'll take that as a no

gusty torrent
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what you don't believe me its ok if you don't

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i don't care if you don't believe me

crimson scroll
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i didn't say i didn't believe you

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read my previous messages

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reading comprehension has not been a strong suit of the people in this channel

gusty torrent
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is it because he shortend how are you to 3 letters

devout wolf
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reading comprehension has not been a strong suit of the people in this channel
ooh he might be me

crimson scroll
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okay

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i'll spell it out for you

devout wolf
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is it because he shortend how are you to 3 letters
he asked if you need pc help
you replied with something else
he took that as a no

crimson scroll
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oh

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well, thanks rafee

devout wolf
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np dude GWjiangPepeThumb

gusty torrent
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oh @devout wolf i like the pc that was built for me

devout wolf
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GWbruhGalaxyThink I assume english isn't your first language?

crimson scroll
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i'm glad you like it

gusty torrent
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i am american but i am technally more uk than american

crimson scroll
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@devout wolf i wonder what the average age of the people who ask for builds in here is

devout wolf
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hopefully >12 because otherwise that is not very Discord TOS

chilly edge
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I've been in the discord a while, and from what I remember it's mostly been teenagers who've saved up enough money

crimson scroll
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the grammar and general naivety makes me wonder if they can afford it

naive dagger
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Bruh

devout wolf
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i definitely couldn't afford my keyboard if i didn't get a great deal on it

naive dagger
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Oh yeah saucy muted me :p

devout wolf
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well, i can afford it but i wouldn't have money after GWmythiBlobLUL

naive dagger
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Ha

gusty torrent
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hey @devout wolf show me what pc you have right now with pc part picker or what pc you want in the future

devout wolf
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i don't really have a plan for what i want in the future, when my pc stops serving my purpose, i will upgrade

gusty torrent
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ok

crimson scroll
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It's wild that two generations ago the top tier card had 6gb vram

gusty torrent
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@devout wolf give me your rating do you think its high end gaming low end gaming or in the middle gaming

devout wolf
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mine? mid range

gusty torrent
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ok

noble oak
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Quick question (first build) is it hard plugging in all the fans, and generally just building it altogether?

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I’m really nervous about wiring and plugging in the fans, and USB ports in the top of my case

crimson scroll
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nah

balmy grail
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It's not very hard at all imo. The hardest part is planning where you're going to connect each fan to what header so that you can cable manage easier

crimson scroll
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yeah, that

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there's a certain order you follow for most parts

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but it depends on your case, what cpu cooler you choose, what fans, etc

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if you want, when you're ready to build you can ask us and we can help

noble oak
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That’s gonna be so helpful thank you

naive dagger
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My new 144hz Monitor is here

gusty torrent
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cool

static holly
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hello

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can u add me back Anthony

gusty torrent
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no

static holly
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why

lucid sandal
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Userbenchmark is a meme

crimson scroll
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correct

static pecan
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Big meme

sharp cliff
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dangit

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this is so cooooool!!!!

crimson scroll
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?

devout wolf
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^^

crimson merlin
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what?

lean summit
crimson scroll
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your current one?

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or one you want to get

noble oak
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uhh guys for this case called:Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case
does is come with the 3 fans here?

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Ping to tell me

crimson scroll
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google is your friend

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also, no, you don't NEED fans to be installed at the bottom, but they can help with gpu cooling @noble oak

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i literally just searched for the lian li lancool II mesh and went to lian li's page

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product pages tell you a lot of what you need to know

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this picture, combined with the product info of 2 140mm and 1 120mm fans, should tell you if it comes with the three in the picture you saw

noble oak
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Soooo

crimson scroll
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soooo....think about it

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what fan configurations does the case support in the front

noble oak
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Fans

crimson scroll
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yes

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which configurations

noble oak
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A lot of em

crimson scroll
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what sizes

noble oak
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Up to 3

crimson scroll
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up to 3 of what size

noble oak
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Max of 370mm

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360

crimson scroll
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correct

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can it fit 3x140mm fans then?

noble oak
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Yes

crimson scroll
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wrong

noble oak
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I can tod math

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Can’t

crimson scroll
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well, it's an important life skill

noble oak
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Yes

crimson scroll
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so we know it can support 3x120mm fans in the front

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now, the picture you linked has 3 fans in the front

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therefore, they must be what size

noble oak
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2 140mm

crimson scroll
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no

noble oak
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And 1 120mm

crimson scroll
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the fans in your picture are all the same size

noble oak
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Oh

crimson scroll
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so what size are they in the picture

noble oak
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120

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Mm

crimson scroll
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correct

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and as you just pointed out, the included fans listed are 2x140 and 1x120

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so can that picture be the fans included by default?

noble oak
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Probably

crimson scroll
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use your brain

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think about it

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the picture has 3x120mm fans

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the included fans are 2x140mm and 1x120mm

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this is basic logic

noble oak
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Yes

crimson scroll
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so you're saying 140mm and 120mm fans are the same size

noble oak
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No I’m not

crimson scroll
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then how can the 2x140mm and 1x120mm fans included with the case, become 3x120mm fans in the picture

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they're all the same size in the picture you linked

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the ones that come with the case, are not all the same size

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so think about it

noble oak
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Yeah

crimson scroll
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can that configuration in the picture you linked be created from the stock fans provided?

noble oak
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Yes maybe

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Idk

crimson scroll
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you're trolling me

noble oak
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No I’m just somehow Braindead

crimson scroll
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i concur

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it's one of those two options for sure

noble oak
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Yes

west marten
storm umbra
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Stupid question. Can I plug an Ethernet cable directly into my router? Just making sure I don’t need a switch. It’s only for 1 device (my PC).

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Wireless is getting to be pretty inconvenient

noble oak
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yes you can

storm umbra
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Ok thanks @noble oak lol

static pecan
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Yep. Most routers have at least 4 ethernet ports for connecting multiple devices so you shouldn't have any problems plugging in just your PC

crimson scroll
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it's interesting that we're at the point where people know wireless more than wired

static pecan
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Yeah. When WiFi 6 goes mainstream that will probably be enough for the vast majority of people, even hardcore gamers. Of course then there's people like me who will take a wired connection over wireless any day lol

storm umbra
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i just use wireless because its more convenient for my family

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i had no use for ethernet until this point where im streaming and i cut out because of how weak the connection is

stable lark
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Should i get a double monitor mount?

noble oak
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If you don't use a laptop yea

stable lark
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k

noble oak
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Tip #1 watch linus tech tips xd

devout wolf
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lel

noble oak
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Don't just order parts and don't know what to do with it xd

crimson scroll
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i mean

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they're alright

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i prefer more in depth youtubers

noble oak
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True, they make vids for people who already understand it

devout wolf
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gonna be honest

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i feel like anthony is the only one in ltt that knows what he's doing

crimson scroll
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and steve

noble oak
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True

devout wolf
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yep

crimson scroll
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hardware unboxed pretty good

halcyon gyro
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can someone check my pcpartpicker list

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also do you guys know the difference between the h510i h510 elite and h510

crimson scroll
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post it

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and the i indicates their "smart" case

devout wolf
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h510i = h510 with an LED strip
h510 elite = h510i with a glass front and rgb fans

crimson scroll
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which just means they have rgb and a controller

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the h510 is...fine, but requires brute airflow

devout wolf
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i'm excited for the lian li lancool 215

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will be $70 like the h510 except with airflow

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2x200 argb fans in the front and 1x120 in the rear

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mesh front ofc

crimson scroll
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p300a competition huh

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nice

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tbh there's a lot of cases there already, but only coolermaster really messes with 200mm fans

devout wolf
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yeah

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200mm fans are hard to produce

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good ones at least

noble oak
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Is the i5 or a Ryzen 5 better combo with the 2060 super?

crimson scroll
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which i5

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which r5

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gotta be specific

noble oak
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Someone sexy here

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Can build me a pc

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For 1500aud?

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Preferably for gaming

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I’ll pay u 5 dollars PayPal if u do

crimson scroll
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sure

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include peripherals/monitor? @noble oak

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also, prices there suck, sorry

crimson scroll
noble oak
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Should I get a 2060 super still or is there a better card ($400 dollar budget for GPU)

crimson scroll
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price/perf, 5700xt is better

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you never answered my question

noble oak
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i5 9600k

crimson scroll
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and which r5

noble oak
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Ryzen 5 6 core thread 12 something

crimson scroll
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you likely mean the r5 3600, correct?

noble oak
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Yes

crimson scroll
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the 3600 would be a better choice

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you should be comparing the 10400 or 10600k, those are the most recent gen i5

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and even then i would still probably pick the 3600, it'll most likely be cheaper, and better for several types of productivity work

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while being close enough for gaming

noble oak
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alright. Im really planning to upgrade my PC in the near future to an i7 and a 3000 series card

crimson scroll
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what are you using your pc for

noble oak
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Mainly gaming

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and some browsing the web

crimson scroll
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and if you're gonna upgrade, then why get something now

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i will point out that a 10600k will OC to stock 10900k performance

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no point in getting an i7

noble oak
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hm

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I guess.

crimson scroll
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there really isn't apart from name value

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if your focus was more on productivity, then you'd choose a 3700x or 3900x instead

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if you want to save money, then you pick the 3600, which is usually 10-20fps fewer than the 10600k, but also is cheaper in terms of both the cpu and the cooling solution

noble oak
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150 frames is enough for me so the FPS drop isn’t really a problem, anyways thanks for the advice

crimson scroll
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np

noble oak
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Saucy which version of the 5700 xt should I buy?

crimson scroll
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whatever's cheap, and not the evoke

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sapphire makes decent ones but they're usually like 50-70 bucks more

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the thicc II should be okay now that they've supposedly fixed its issues

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basically post it here and i'll let you know if its okay

noble oak
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I see, spent like 30 minutes looking at videos and boy your right about the frames!

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40+ more

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XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB THICC III Ultra video card

crimson scroll
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it's fine

noble oak
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Alright thanks dude!

crimson scroll
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it is pretty bad thermally, but not as bad as the thicc II

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and you can mod it to be better

noble oak
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Saw a lot of bad reviews on cooling for the 2060

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The only thing I saw bad about this card is the drivers

crimson scroll
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see if you can find a powercolor red devil or gigabyte card for around the same price as the thicc

noble oak
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This card your right is thick af

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I’ll go look at some gigabyte cards rq

mild quiver
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@crimson scroll you are spending wayyy to much for that build

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you dont really need an nvme

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get a 1tb ssd

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you dont need a cooler unless you want to do some overclocking which really isnt needed with the r5 3600 (also i would go for a AIO for that price)

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c) thats the MOST EXPENSIVE micro ATX board ive seen. not necessary

crimson scroll
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you know that's in AUD right

mild quiver
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d) your ram is so expensive, get

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oh

crimson scroll
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i am well aware of the jacked up prices

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try switching to AU pcpp

mild quiver
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thats AUD symbol?

zinc root
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australian dollar

crimson scroll
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look at the link my dude

zinc root
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the link is au.pcpartpicker

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you dont need a cooler unless you want to do some overclocking which really isnt needed with the r5 3600 (also i would go for a AIO for that price)
this is true tho

crimson scroll
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i was already close to 1500 anyways so i figured might as well throw in the cooler

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but yes it's optional

zinc root
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buy apex pro instead of cooler

crimson scroll
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lol

mild quiver
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YEA LMAO

zinc root
crimson scroll
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he never answered me if he needed peripherals/monitor

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so it changes if he does

mild quiver
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lol

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if your gonna get a cooler get the NH-D15

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or NH-u12a

crimson scroll
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doesn't exist on au pcpp

mild quiver
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it looks ugly as hell but the performance is lit

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get your parts off of amazon

crimson scroll
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a d15 is overkill for a 3600 anyways

mild quiver
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LMAO not sure why you're saying that when the be quiet you're getting is the same price

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at least on US amazon

crimson scroll
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us dollars =/= aud dollars

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its about 1 to 0.7

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the d15 is 178 on au amazon, the dark rock i linked is 120

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i appreciate the help but next time check what region it's in and recognize that even with conversion rates, prices still may be more or less expensive than the US

zinc root
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you must be new to internet

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pls understand us citizens are selfish

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only thinks around their country

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pepega citizens

crimson scroll
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i'm a us citizen lmao

zinc root
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exceptions dont break rules

last fossil
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Hey guys I’m new to building, I’m actually in the middle of building my first pc at the moment Rn. I think I did pretty good for the budget I had and I think I wanna upgrade somewhere down the line, just wanted some other thoughts on it

crimson scroll
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ok

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post a pcpp link?

last fossil
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Sorry a what?

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A link to my parts?

crimson scroll
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yes

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you can set the prices you bought the parts for as well

tall cove
crimson scroll
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nice cable management though

last fossil
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Oooooooof

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That was my fault if that’s a problem @crimson scroll I asked them to post that

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That’s a really nice build the retshot

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Though*

crimson scroll
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yeah this is more for talking about pc builds and hardware and what to buy, the other one is for posting pretty pictures

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all good though

tall cove
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cooler, psu cables and ram are getting an upgrade soon

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so that should be fun

crimson scroll
#

nice

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yeah stock intel cooler...no fun

tall cove
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its a i5-9400f so its not like im OC, im snagging an NH-L9i CPU cooler from Nocuta

crimson scroll
#

why low profile

tall cove
#

Im not the biggest fan of rgb

crimson scroll
#

the h series of cases support bigger

tall cove
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And I like low profile

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the bigger heatsinks and stuff arent really my cup of tea

crimson scroll
#

looks over performance i guess?

tall cove
#

Nah it will do what i need it to do plus some

crimson scroll
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

tall cove
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it fits the budget for this upgrade as well

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im a graphic designer, i just need this to run Ai, Ps, and after effects

last fossil
#

Hey @crimson scroll

crimson scroll
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not bad

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no case?

last fossil
#

Yea don’t have the ATX case yet a friend is picking one up for me Friday

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Full tower

crimson scroll
#

which one

last fossil
#

5 fans

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I have no idea lol

crimson scroll
#

huh

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okay

last fossil
#

He knows what I like though

crimson scroll
#

well there are some improvements i would have made, but it's a nice system

last fossil
#

Like what?

crimson scroll
#

what price did you buy the 5500xt and mobo at

last fossil
#

I mean I spent my budget and I’m getting a better heat sync too

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253.94 us for the xt and mobo is 169.99

crimson scroll
#

250 bucks can get you a 1660s which is better than the 5500xt

last fossil
#

Huh... where are you looking?

tall cove
#

How much did you spend on the gpu

crimson scroll
#

pcpp

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he just said 253.94

tall cove
#

For that?

crimson scroll
#

i would have done this

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better first word latency ram, 3200cl16 > 3600cl19

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the sn550 is faster than the WD blue Sata, and cheaper

tall cove
#

I got my 1660 super for 200

crimson scroll
#

the psu i added doesn't have a price but even the 750w version of it is only 125, as opposed to the 155 you were spending on the rosewill

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and the motherboard has great vrms that can handle upgrades to 3700x, 3900x, etc

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if you need wifi, i'd get a pcie wifi card instead of built in

last fossil
#

I’m honestly not sure what watt my rosewill is it might be 750 tbh

crimson scroll
#

the link you posted is 650

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either way, overkill for your system

last fossil
#

How so

crimson scroll
#

people have run 2080ti and i9-9900k on a 450w system before

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obviously not ideal, but

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your parts will have much lower power consumption

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and the money you save by being more efficient at 50% load won't be more than the straight up money you save by buying a lower wattage psu

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so a 550w or 650w psu will serve you just fine while being cheaper

tall cove
#

@last fossil did you by chance check other websites and shop around for your parts to make sure you were getting the most bang for your buck?

last fossil
#

I did a little but I didn’t really think to check with a group of people like you who have actually built RIGS

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Like on discord or forums

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Never occurred to me

crimson scroll
#

The system you have is still fine

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Could do much worse

tall cove
#

^

last fossil
#

So honestly cuz my pc now that I’m using is a toaster that can’t even toast bread. What do you think I can run with the new build I put together

crimson scroll
#

Whatever you want

last fossil
#

That’s what I wanted

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Awesome

crimson scroll
#

Easy 144hz 1080p esports titles

last fossil
#

Like I could barely run borderlands 2

crimson scroll
#

Probably 144hz 1440p honestly, I ran a 1060 6gb and the 5500xt is pretty comparable

last fossil
#

30frames a sec

crimson scroll
#

BL2 on 60fps ultra for sure

last fossil
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That’s amazing

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Legit couldn’t even run Metroid prime with the program I use

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That’s how bad

tall cove
#

just make sure you have a monitor that can run 144hz

last fossil
#

I have a tv as a monitor

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Think I should upgrade?

tall cove
#

What is the tv

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Size and model

last fossil
#

Sylvania 32 inch? Or 35

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Something like that

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It’s a widescreen

tall cove
#

Google the exact tv and then look up its refresh rate

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That will cap you to a certain FPS

last fossil
#

Hold on I will rn

crimson scroll
#

very unlikely it's a high refresh rate model

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even if it was 120hz, it might be one of the ones that inserts a black frame or duplicates frames to make it fake 120hz

tall cove
#

Like I have a 24” Samsung that’s max is 60, so I have 60 FPS cap

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Which I’m fine with it’s a good monitor and I got it for free

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All of my other peripherals are SS tho

last fossil
#

Legit can’t find it

naive dagger
#

Can you find the model #

last fossil
#

Soooooo prolly gonna have to grab a new one

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Nope

naive dagger
#

O

last fossil
#

That old

naive dagger
#

Wow

last fossil
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Sylvania is old

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Great picture though

tall cove
#

Take a picture of it

last fossil
#

Any tips for cheap monitors

naive dagger
#

I recommend the sceptre c24 144rn

crimson scroll
#

You can get 1080p 75hz monitors for like 100 on sale

last fossil
#

Also is duel monitoring worth it?

crimson scroll
#

No. I would not recommend making your monitors fight to the death

naive dagger
#

Sauce boss can you please tell saucy raichu to unmute me

crimson scroll
#

Joking aside, if it's worth it depends on what you're doing

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For productivity, maybe

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And it's nice to have discord/spotify/twitch/etc on a second monitor

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But just for gaming, nah

last fossil
#

Hey saucy I’m afraid I have to tell you that supreku would like you to unmute them

crimson scroll
#

Not happening

last fossil
#

Lol

naive dagger
#

I trolled once and this is what I get

crimson scroll
#

The more he proxies the message and avoids the block, the more I will ignore it

last fossil
#

Hey says not happening

naive dagger
#

I can see his messages

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He can’t see mine

last fossil
#

Oh

crimson scroll
#

Stop using random people to relay messages. It defeats the purpose of the block and its annoying

noble oak
#

Hopefully last version of my PC part list.

naive dagger
#

You blocked me for arbitrary reasons

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Ik you can’t see this

crimson scroll
#

@noble oak I would still switch out the case but I know you've mentioned you'll convert the panels and you like the look anyways

#

Any particular reason you're going ultra high refresh rate

last fossil
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The programs I use

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Ah talking to steel

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But refresh rate is nice too

noble oak
#

Yea, I heard "higher the refresh rate the better" but yes no particular reason for it.

naive dagger
#

That’s really really high

crimson scroll
#

You can get 1440p 144hz for that price which is a better balance imo

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You'll notice 144 to 240+ but not as much as 60 to 144

naive dagger
#

I agree with saucy

noble oak
#

1440p? Fine with me, I’ll look into it some more. Thanks again

last fossil
#

If you don’t balence out the parts that handle your refresh rate I feel like it puts more strain on your cpu load which I hate

crimson scroll
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No prob

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@last fossil that depends but generally yes, resolution is more gpu bound and refresh rate is more cpu bound, when you try to increase either

last fossil
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That’s why I balance out my stuff and just kinda go the way I went

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Or at least try too

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Emphases on tried

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But is there any place @crimson scroll that you would grab a monitor from

crimson scroll
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Not Newegg

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Their dead pixel policy is garbage

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Newegg eBay is okay since eBay makes them actually have cs

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Pretty much anywhere is fine, just check their warranty and policy

last fossil
#

I have never trusted eBay never will

crimson scroll
#

Ebay is very customer focused

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I mean the actual ebay stores

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Not the auctions

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And they 99% of the time side with customers, that's why so many eBay scams happen to people who try to sell on ebay

last fossil
#

See I didn’t even know eBay had stores

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I’ve never seen one

crimson scroll
#

I don't mean physical stores

last fossil
#

Amazon?

crimson scroll
#

Amazon is fine

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Good return policy

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Not always the best prices

last fossil
#

So then what should I be looking for considering I’m not gonna duel monitor I guess and what size do you think

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4K

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HDR?

crimson scroll
#

1080p 144hz

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Hdr is a scam on cheap monitors

last fossil
#

Well yea

crimson scroll
#

Alternatively go 1440p 144hz and upgrade gpu later

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And keep the monitor

last fossil
#

My pc is perfectly fine for rn imma upgrade my pc down the line

crimson scroll
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I know

#

I'm saying your monitor will likely outlive your pc

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In terms of when it's obsolete

last fossil
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Oh

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I see

crimson scroll
#

So you spend more on the monitor now

#

And it'll still be relevant when we consider the 5500xt a trash tier gpu

last fossil
#

True that

#

Lemme go and check some monitors I’ll be right back and I’ll message you some monitors

crimson scroll
#

if you want image quality, go IPS/VA. if you want speed for esports, go TN

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VA will have better contrast, worse ghosting. IPS will have the best colors overall, but IPS glow/bleed. TN has the worst colors, best panel speed

#

with modern high quality panels, most of the negatives are mitigated though

last fossil
#

Hey @crimson scroll

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I got two monitors

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Three actually

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What do you think?

crimson scroll
#

second two have meh stands

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first one is overpriced

#

last one seems alright if you like ultrawide, but make sure you check the specs on that

#

"up to 200hz" may mean you need to turn down the res to get 200hz

last fossil
#

I mean I don’t care about the stands

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What am I looking for in terms of specs

crimson scroll
#

you should unless you're planning to replace the stand with a vesa mount

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but refresh rate, brightness (nits), screen size, resolution, color accuracy, and response time (gtg, input lag) are what you should be looking at

last fossil
#

5 milliseconds is the response time (gtg). 200hz refresh rate, brightness is 270 cd/m2, color gamut is 90%, resolution 2560x1080, screen size 30”, couldn’t find the input lag @crimson scroll

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Or brightness

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But I think I got everything

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250 bits

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Nits

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And the input lag is just below 5ms

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@crimson scroll

hallow falcon
#

Since you guys are on the topic of Monitors, im stuck between two different monitors. The first is $180 and the second one is $160

crimson scroll
#

that doesn't link to anything for me

devout wolf
#

^^

crimson scroll
#

@last fossil seems fine

devout wolf
#

bruh

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no 🙂

autumn cairn
#

so im building a computer and dont know which cables i all need. the manual is confusing aswell

devout wolf
#

all the cables you need should be included with your parts

autumn cairn
#

yes but there is so many

#

idk what i all need

#

theres like 3 gpu cables

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2 cpu cables

devout wolf
#

gpu cables will be with the psu

autumn cairn
#

I just dont know how many i need

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just one or all 3

devout wolf
#

you only need how many are on your GPU

autumn cairn
#

Gigabyte 2070 super

devout wolf
#

and they're attached to your power supply/in the box if it's modular

autumn cairn
#

fully modular

devout wolf
#

yeah it will be in the box

#

labelled PCIe cables or something

autumn cairn
#

yes

devout wolf
#

there are only two of them that go to a gigabyte 2070S

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6+2 pin connectors

autumn cairn
#

can i send pics in here?

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i could show you

devout wolf
#

sure

autumn cairn
#

wait

#

im getting white asiahorse cables

#

should i just wait for them to come tomorrow

#

And then could you help me out please?

devout wolf
#

does asiahorse sell modular psu cables?

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thought they only sell extensions

autumn cairn
#

ill link it

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extensions yes

devout wolf
#

right

autumn cairn
#

oh so i still need to connect the main ones

devout wolf
#

yep

autumn cairn
#

and then extend through the grommet

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ohhhhh

devout wolf
#

yeah they're extensions

autumn cairn
#

ight

noble oak
#

Alright for aesthetics if none of my parts are RGB, and the case fans are should I get the RGB fans or non RGB? (Just saying if I get RG fans I get 3 with the case and if not I get 2)

devout wolf
#

it's up to you lol

noble oak
#

I dont know tho you see. It'll look ok, but I just want more opinions

devout wolf
#

i mean if you get more fans with RGB then do that sure

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it's not like less RGB looks bad

crimson scroll
#

you can turn off rgb anyways

#

on a lot of rgb fans

devout wolf
#

yep

noble oak
#

true yes thank you

crimson scroll
#

you're talking about the p400a drgb right

#

i would pick the rgb one since you get better airflow, and you'll want to buy another fan for the non rgb anyways

noble oak
#

Yes.

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Love it when New Egg costs the Non RGB one with 1 less fan at 69.99 and the RGB ones at 89.99

#

Alright well, RGB ones are out of stock and aren't showing up for compatible products. Non RGB P400A it is! (Hopefully it shows up if it's in stock again, I think thats how it works idk)

devout wolf
#

lmfao

noble oak
#

9 days for a case to arrive what-

daring viper
#

that's not too much

crude lily
#

ok so this is my current setup

#

but I really need some help about this disaster

#

any tips?

broken raptor
#

cable run ways

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you can buy a 6 pack on amazon for 19$ @crude lily

crude lily
#

cable runways sound good

#

I might also get a pack of cable managing that has zip ties, and such

broken raptor
#

witch ever work good for you

broken raptor
#

good luck

crude lily
#

so i live in germany atm and couldnt find any at a reasonable price, and they didnt look good

#

can you help me out? maybe send a link?

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or maybe try to find on on the german amazon amazon.de

broken raptor
#

Alright

crimson scroll
#

Velcro >zip ties

#

Reusable

#

And if you mess up you don't waste them

#

A 50 pack is like 3 bucks on eBay to the US, free shipping

proper flint
noble oak
#

Is the Aus Tuf Gaming B550 M Plus Wifi better than my originally planned MSI B450 Tomohawk Max with an Wifi card?

crimson scroll
#

nah

crimson scroll
#

unless you really need next gen pcie i guess

rich sedge
#

why the hell wont my gpu and case arrive yet

#

they said it would ship today

#

yet it didnt even ship

crimson scroll
#

shipping services are delayed

#

there's this tiny little thing called covid

#

kinda messing everything up

noble oak
#

Hi

#

I just checked the wattage of my pc and it’s 500. I’m looking to upgrade to an rtx 2070 but idk if it’s enough. My cpu right now is an i7 8700, 16 gb 3600 ram

#

The gpu I have rn is a gtx 1060

devout wolf
#

its enough

crimson scroll
#

yeah, it's fine

rich sedge
#

who is the covid and why is he 19

crimson scroll
#

bad joke

rich sedge
#

yep

autumn cairn
#

um guys

#

I was told I need to hotwire my computer

#

because i test built it outside

#

how do I do that

little igloo
#

hi how can i tell if my parts are compatible

lucid fog
#

would it be dumb to OC a laptop temps in reason 66c
+135 Core clock
+180 on memory

but i cant control Volt ( not like i would add any, V is locked in BIOS and i cant control it

static pecan
#

@little igloo you can use pcpartpicker.com to create your list of parts and it will tell you if everything is compatible or if you need to change something

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@autumn cairn do you mean you put the components together outside of a case? If your mobo doesn't have an onboard switch to turn it on you'll need to jump start the power switch using something small and metal. There's tutorials online that will have better explanations

autumn cairn
#

i got it

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thanks

ashen tusk
#

What graphic card could you recommend that is affordable

#

ping me when you answer

noble oak
#

What is your budget?

#

For like the whole pc

ashen tusk
#

i already have a GTX 1650S 4GB GDDR6

#

ehm

#

a little under 1000 dollars

noble oak
#

Ehm maybe a 2070 or a 2070 super

ashen tusk
#

ok, ill look it up

noble oak
#

But I would wait till the 3000 series are coming

devout wolf
#

^^

ashen tusk
#

maybe thats a smart idea

devout wolf
#

what cpu do you have?

ashen tusk
#

bro its you!

static pecan
#

If you want to save $100 go with an RX5700XT over a 2070 Super. Same performance just way cheaper unless you're willing to pay a premium for Raytracing @ashen tusk

ashen tusk
#

my car pfp fella

devout wolf
#

ayyy

ashen tusk
#

If you want to save $100 go with an RX5700XT over a 2070 Super. Same performance just way cheaper unless you're willing to pay a premium for Raytracing @ashen tusk
@static pecan sounds good

devout wolf
#

things you get with nvidia:
-ray tracing
-DLSS
-NVENC encoder (useful for streaming)
-CUDA (for machine learning and stuff)

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if you don't need any of these go with a 5700xt, or don't since rtx 30 series is right around the corner

crimson scroll
#

and stable drivers for the most part

light raptor
#

Guys I need help I am trying to build a good gaming and work pc but I can’t find a good motherboard. My budget is $800-$950.

obsidian sandal
#

is this a good build

#

well its good but any upgrades

crimson scroll
#

I would change the kraken x53 for an EK aio or arctic liquid freeze II; also get a SN550 or crucial p1 for the same price as that WD blue

#

also, why the double triple packs of LL fans and then the single p12?

#

after adding about 95 for the case and 100 for the psu, that'll come out to roughly 920

hearty ravine
#

how much of a difference is there from the 2060 super to the 2070 super & is it worth $100

median rivet
#

2080ti or bust

crimson scroll
#

yuck

#

don't use userbenchmark please

hearty ravine
#

my question still isnt answered pls

molten basalt
#

one say's 70 and one says 60

median rivet
#

User does the job

crimson scroll
#

i mean, both are fine

#

just depends how much you want to spend

hearty ravine
#

im fine with spending $500, id just prefer if i didnt have to lol

crimson scroll
#

what res and refresh rate is your monitor klexos

#

a 2060 super should be able to handle 1080p 144fps for most titles, a 2070 super can do 4k 60fps

#

alternatively, a 5700xt is slightly worse than a 2070 super, and will cost about $400ish

devout wolf
#

welp rip, two of my gpu fans killed themselves

noble oak
#

Hello, I need a budget pc. The best pc for max 500 Pounds

frigid phoenix
noble oak
#

You still need a ssd

#

yes so u can play tarkov

frigid phoenix
#

remember 500 pounds = like 650usd

frigid phoenix
#

pog?

#

I want to steal that kraken

#

I'm getting myself new PSU when I get money

#

and probably new keyboard :D

zenith badge
#

the pc i have right now is good enough for what i do, but if my streaming kicks off, i want to build a really decked out computer and idk if i should do water cooling or keep it regular

balmy grail
#

i got a water cooler (kraken x73) for my cpu (3800x). it was getting kinda toasty so direct rather than fan cool i found to be a little bit more effective

mellow plover
#

i do be liking that gpu @noble oak

lunar axle
#

hey, any help? i got 1500$ CAD which i think is about 1100$ USD and im trying to build a good PC here

stuck bluff
#

You can easily smash a good set up together with that budget.

#

My PC all in was 1200 gbp

#

Which is 2096 cad? Wow

#

Thought it was similar ratio

#

😅

median rivet
#

Yeah but UK is bad so it'll still probably be about 1500cad

stuck bluff
#

Well 1200, is 2096 CAD apparently. Which is surprising but you can get a decent kit for 1500 anyway! Just use pc builder and you'll be able to find builds for your budget

past wagon
#

@balmy grail So how are the temperatures now with kraken? Is is worth ? 😄

balmy grail
#

lemme pull up the tracker graphs and stuff

#

imma put it on 100% load for a sec and show you how stable it is

#

i can have my cpu at full load and its stable between 65-70c

#

before i was using the base prism cooler that came with it and at less loads was hitting 85c+

#

20% load and hover at 50-55c, but you see the biggest improvements in the upper extremes

pulsar fossil
#

I'm at about 70c with an i9-9900k at full load with a Noctua air cooler

#

Drawing in 210W of power ish

#

At 4,7 GHz

#

I could prob OC a bit

rich sedge
hallow arch
#

nice

naive dagger
#

I want

rich sedge
#

No

naive dagger
#

Why

sick sail
#

is a ryzen 5 good with a rtx 2060

#

16 gb ram

#

someone ping me pls

devout wolf
#

@sick sail which ryzen 5? and what speed and cl is the ram?

static pecan
#

Yes @sick sail

crimson scroll
#

assuming you mean the r5 3600, yes

#

a 2600, still yes

#

a 1600, meh

#

and the locked oem/non us chips, it depends

devout wolf
#

inb4 1400 GWpingKanyeLUL

crimson scroll
#

people need to learn to be specific when talking about hardware

#

or anything, really

hybrid wolf
pulsar fossil
#

Looks sweet

hybrid wolf
#

Thank you

naive dagger
#

In my dreams I have that

balmy grail
#

thats a sick setup ngl

#

chair's brand new too, tag on it and everything

naive dagger
#

But is that a Razer mouse 😡

hybrid wolf
#

Yes I’ve just ordered the new steelseries keyboard and mouse

#

Chairs being replaced I’ve had it nine months

#

Secret labs Titan

pulsar fossil
#

A decent chair

hybrid wolf
#

Seen so many streamers using them so I had to ... cannot wait for the steel series to arrive though 💯💯

crimson scroll
#

marketing is working then

noble oak
#

Lol.

hybrid wolf
#

🤣🤣

hearty ravine
#

more questions for you guys, whats the best/your go to 144+ hz monitor preferably below $250 but up to $300

hearty ravine
#

yeah a lot of those got sold at microcenter when i worked there

balmy grail
#

might not be a good monitor, but at entry level, i couldnt argue with the price

hearty ravine
#

fair enough

balmy grail
#

the only thing i hate about it is when the screen is dark, theres these white "ghosts" on the screen

hearty ravine
#

thats kind of why ive given so much of my budget for the monitor, i already have 2 60hz that im going to use on the side so i want a really high quality monitor for my main one

#

already have a 500gb SSD & a 2 tb hard drive, which is why I'm only buying the one extra NVME SSD

noble oak
#

Klex maybe see what it’s like with Corsair vengeance tam

#

Ram*

#

Also

#

Screw the fans and get bean cooled pc

balmy grail
#

LOL

hearty ravine
#

its about the same price with corsair ram because i want 32 gb

#

as long as everything is below 2k im fine, it can go a little over but ill be sad about it

noble oak
#

Hmmm

frigid phoenix
#

You want to stream with that right?

noble oak
#

Maybe 2080 super instead of 2060? Would be pushing it but definitely worth it

hearty ravine
#

streaming would be on my current pc, games only on the new one

#

need to eventually have a monitor in the price of the pc parts too otherwise i would lol

noble oak
#

Ahh ok

frigid phoenix
#

Maybe little bit weaker CPU and better GPU then?

hearty ravine
#

i want to do a dual pc set up but i want the new one to not need to be upgraded for a while

#

would it be worth it to go for the 2070 super?

noble oak
#

Just get an asus 240hz monitor then get the 2070 super

#

Lol

#

Ya it would be tbh.

hearty ravine
#

i know stuff about like mid tier parts but this stuff is over my head LMAO

noble oak
#

xD

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2060 2070 2080 are all good

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What do you have in your current pc

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For graphics card

hearty ravine
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my gpu? i have a 1050ti

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not amazing but it does the job

noble oak
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Hmmmmm

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Maybe lower the quality of the gpu and cpu on the one you wanna build. Get a 2070 and a good 240hz monitor

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Would be pushing It though

hearty ravine
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the only reason i want to stay under 2k is because i want to use the remaining $400 of my budget to buy a secretlabs lmao

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but i have like a month or so before im going to buy anything so ill have more savings

noble oak
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Actually

hearty ravine
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ill probably just get a 240 hz & the 2070 super and cry about not having any money

noble oak
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Maybe just wait for prices to drop?

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Everything expensive af atm cuz of the pandemic

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Just wait for everything to calm down

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And then everything will be cheaper

hearty ravine
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maybe yeah but ive already waited an unbelievable amount of time to upgrade so my pc is uh 😅

frigid phoenix
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Also, maybe wait for 30xx series

noble oak
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Aight just go for it then I guess.

frigid phoenix
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Oh wait no nvm, they only show high-end stuff on beginning

hearty ravine
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i have the money to so ive just kind of accepted paying higher prices

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plus itll be a nice birthday present to myself

frigid phoenix
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PC upgrade is always nice present

noble oak
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Then go fir it.

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Get a 2070 maybe a 2080 if your willing

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And get a capture card unless you already have one

hearty ravine
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aaaa i forgot about capture card LOL

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gg

frigid phoenix
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From what I've read 2070 is not a good deal and 2070S is WAAAAY better

hearty ravine
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yeah id get a 2070s

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its only $100 more than 2060s

noble oak
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Just ask for a fee headset from steelseries then sell it. Free money

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Jk

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Lol..... unless?

hearty ravine
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i already have 2 free headsets

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but i use them :]

noble oak
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Maybe get 1 for me

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Lol

frigid phoenix
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Why do you need 2 headsets :o

noble oak
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One for each pc

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Duh

hearty ravine
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ones for my ps4 & switch & the other is for my pc

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i dont want to set up my arctis pro wireless each time i want to go from pc to ps4

noble oak
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And you don’t wanna be that person that uses tv sound

frigid phoenix
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I didn't get free one but it was aaaalmost free. 200$ for arctis pro with gamedac is almost free

hearty ravine
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i mean i do sometimes

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i have a 65" samsung qled

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its a nice tv

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lol

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i need to get a soundbar for it tho

noble oak
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That always confuses me why pc players want speakers? They use headsets to listen so what are the speakers for? Astheitic?

frigid phoenix
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Well depends

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Before I got arctis pro I had to plug my headphones via jack trough speakers

noble oak
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You play on pc?

frigid phoenix
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Yes

noble oak
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So your pc case didn’t have an audio jack?

frigid phoenix
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It had, but cable was too short

noble oak
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Ahh ok

mellow ferry
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also if you are watching a movie or something with someone

noble oak
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But on a. Monitor?

frigid phoenix
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Also sometimes I had a vibe where I just took off headphones and listened to music lol

noble oak
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Just get a tv if your willing to spend a grand on speakers

hearty ravine
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i never ever use my monitors speakers

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my old roommate would only use his headset if he was gaming & would play his youtube videos so loud that you could hear it across the entire apartment

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dont understand them

mellow ferry
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i got cheap monitors so they dont even have speakers lmao

hearty ravine
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ok so real talk monitor brands which should i be looking at are there any that are actually bad

mellow ferry
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they were lioke £60 each

hearty ravine
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are LG monitors ok?

frigid phoenix
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Kinda off topic but, is there a steelseries cable for gamedac that is longer than one we get in box?

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Yes LG monitors are okay

noble oak
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Klex LG are good ASU’s are good.

hearty ravine
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about $200 over budget thats fine

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ez

noble oak
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200 dollar

hearty ravine
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yeah

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lol

noble oak
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You could get

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400 small haribo packets with that

hearty ravine
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i could also pay for half of my chair with it

noble oak
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Ya

hearty ravine
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if i really wanted to slim down the cost i could switch my AIO & get a cheaper case but

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i want the fractal design define 7 :(

frigid phoenix
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Are there any good 120$ mechanical keyboards worth getting? Would love to go with steelseries but apex 5 is not fully mechanical and apex 7 is little bit too expensive.

hearty ravine
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are you using the 12% off codes when youre determining price?

frigid phoenix
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O.o

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W-what code

noble oak
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Google

hearty ravine
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our partnered streamer codes

noble oak
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12% steelseries streamer codes

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Google that

mellow ferry
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are they the ones on honey?