#💻-building-a-pc

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low vigil
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No

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I just clicked the start button and the pc went on

west marten
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What kind of mobo do you have?

low vigil
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But nothing on my motherboard

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Monitor*

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Aorus pro x570

crimson scroll
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You don't need gold rated

west marten
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Do the mobo lights come on?

crimson scroll
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You save a couple dollars at best per year

low vigil
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Ye lights are on I can show u

west marten
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Efficiency is not the only good thing about a gold rating, they are usually more reliable, I suggest never cheaping out on a PSU @crimson scroll

crimson scroll
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That's...not true

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There are plenty of good bronze psus

west marten
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The price diff between a gold and bronze isn't big

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@low vigil Unplug and clean your ram sticks? worth a try

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Do you have any other components lying around?

low vigil
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@west marten can I call and screenshare

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Cus I can't send recording here

west marten
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Sure

noble oak
unborn kiln
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Looks solid
Maybe just an NVMe?
Other then that nothing much. You could find a way better case imo

clear jacinth
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okay yeah maybe just don't go with that case, I don't see a lot of ventilation

unborn kiln
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I have the p400a
Probably some of the best ventilation and it wasn't that expensive...

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Yeah just looks like your case and you could consider an NVMe SSD

sinful crypt
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I want to upgrade from my Blackwidow Chroma, but steelseries doesnt have any keyboards with macro buttons (M1-M5), makes me sad.

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Are there any alternatives?

chilly edge
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I'm fairly certain that the Apex 7/Pro do have macro keys on the Nav cluster (Ins, Del, Home, End, Pg Up, Pg Dn)

pulsar fossil
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They do

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M1-6

naive dagger
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What are some good customizable RGB case fans

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Budget too

crimson scroll
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Uphere

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Asiahorse is sketchy, heard rumors of them leaking oil

low vigil
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So my pc doesn't know. Is it now I start doing something about my life

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Universe signs

crimson scroll
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What

finite plank
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hey could aanyone help me out with a mother baorc

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board*

crimson scroll
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whats up

finite plank
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im not rlly sure what compatibility issues i need to watch out for and i deally want a mother board i wont have to change for another few years

crimson scroll
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okay

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you're putting together a parts list for a new build?

finite plank
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im going for a gaming build

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yes

crimson scroll
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any parts you're gonna reuse from a current build?

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and what's your budget

finite plank
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oh nono im doing a new (first) build

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£1500 but i already have 1tb ssd

crimson scroll
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cool

finite plank
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WD blue

low vigil
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X570 is a future proof motherboard

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The one I use

crimson scroll
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future proof up until am5, yes

low vigil
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Nothing is future proof forever

crimson scroll
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thats why i don't use that term very much haha

finite plank
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yeah ive used pc part picker i understand it helps with compatibility but i also dont know what is overkill for a mother baord

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is 200 too much for a future 'proof' MB

crimson scroll
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well, you probably won't care too much about vrm quality, as long as it handles a 3700x and a mild oc, you'll be good

finite plank
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im looking around 150 but i rlly dont know

crimson scroll
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lol

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i wasn't telling him to wait forever

finite plank
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i have a laptop as well why is this so relatable XDD

crimson scroll
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looks like the msi mpg x570 gaming plus is 170 pounds which would be just fine for you

low vigil
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I use the aorus pro x570

small fiber
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There’s always b550

finite plank
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@crimson scroll @low vigil ive been planning to build a pc for a year now always stalling XD

crimson scroll
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do you care about rgb

finite plank
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yeah let me send you my build

low vigil
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You always want to make your purchases as close to MSRP as possible regardless of anybody’s recommendations

small fiber
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And unless you need all of the pci-e lanes offered by x570 they’re around $120-150

finite plank
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msro?

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msrp*

crimson scroll
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manufacturer suggested retail price

finite plank
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ah kk

low vigil
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@crimson scroll did you Google that xD

finite plank
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so you sat x570?

crimson scroll
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no

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i knew what that meant

low vigil
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✅

crimson scroll
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honestly what you have now is fine, you don't really need to buy thermal paste separately

low vigil
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You need to tell me what cpu and GPU you want

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What your total budget is

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Because we can't make one component OP and the other noobie

crimson scroll
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maybe a different case though, a p400a would cost you about the same after those case fans

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@low vigil he already stated, 1500 pounds, and he linked a list

small fiber
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I would try to find the parts individually to get the best price

finite plank
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should i upgrade cpu or nothing worth improving?

crimson scroll
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it's fine for gaming

finite plank
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and programming?

crimson scroll
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you can always sell it and add in a zen3 processor later for a small cost

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what kind of programming

low vigil
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Your cpu will always be outdated cus tech evolves faster than you can count to 10

crimson scroll
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if you're literally writing code, anything can do that

finite plank
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idk about to start uni

crimson scroll
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also, gpus get outdated faster than cpus

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so...that's not exactly true zr1

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there are 2700k and 4790k that keep up today

low vigil
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@crimson scroll what's the name of that tech thing where technology improves twice as fast

finite plank
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the rule?

crimson scroll
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it's moore's law

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and it's not technology

low vigil
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Yeees

finite plank
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yeah that

crimson scroll
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it's transistor count

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in the same space

low vigil
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You know it

finite plank
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exponential

crimson scroll
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that doesn't translate linearly to performance

low vigil
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Moore's law is the observation that the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit doubles about every two years.

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Which is correct

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Your cpu is outdated in 2 years

finite plank
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anyhow is the b550 gonna last me a while

low vigil
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Yeeee

finite plank
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the 5 3600?

crimson scroll
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yes

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and no, that's not really true zr1

low vigil
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Dude whether u agree with me or not doesn't matter

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Itshow it is

crimson scroll
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an 8700k was released in q4 2017, it's not outdated lmao

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it's not as powerful as a 10700k sure

finite plank
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also you said its fine for gaming, i dont want fine, i want good

crimson scroll
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but will it perform perfectly fine even with a 2080ti? yes

finite plank
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or is it good

crimson scroll
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it'll be good

finite plank
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gucci

crimson scroll
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if you want top tier gaming performance, go intel

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the difference is only a couple of frames in most games

finite plank
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then no point

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need me some money for going out at uni XD

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those frames can wait

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also would you say the 5 3600 id need to upgrade in about a year or so or more?

crimson scroll
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probably not

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if you wanted to, you would be able to drop in a zen3 processor for more frames, but you would be just fine keeping it

finite plank
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whens zen 3

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or is it out am i stupif

crimson scroll
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supposedly end of 2020

finite plank
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oh ok

crimson scroll
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expect delays

finite plank
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nah ill get the 3600 now then uprade in a few years

small fiber
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Same with the new graphics cards

finite plank
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so you dont think 3000 series will drop september?

crimson scroll
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even if they announce it then

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availability will be very scarce

small fiber
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Probably not

finite plank
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i was planning on getting 3000 series or a 2000 series at a reduced price once they release

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so do you think i should just go ahead and buy all my parts

low vigil
crimson scroll
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yes, go ahead

finite plank
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this is quite exciting indeed

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ok screw it

crimson scroll
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congrats, you've not disproved what i said

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real world performance hasn't scaled like that recently

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and gpus are still faster to become obsolete

low vigil
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Congratulations you played yourself

crimson scroll
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i've provided concrete evidence that a cpu from three years ago is not outdated, contrary to what you've said

low vigil
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In 2017 Ryzen released the 1000 series which has 8 cores 16 threads
In 2019 Ryzen released the 3950x which has 16 cores 32 threads

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So it's correct so far

crimson scroll
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um

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you can't compare a 1700x and a 3950x

low vigil
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Wanna bet it's gonna double again in 2021

crimson scroll
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you ahve to compare a 1950x and a 3950x then'

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and guess what

low vigil
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32 cores 64 threads

crimson scroll
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the 1950x also has 16 cores

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also, the 3990x exists

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stop making random comparisons to prove your point

low vigil
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Congratulations

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You are the smartest person in your chair

crimson scroll
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you're literally comparing the "1000 series" to a specific threadripper on zen 2

low vigil
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Why do you have to bully me for that

crimson scroll
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because it's an inaccurate comparison

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you didn't even specify which 1000 series processor

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if you're gonna compare HEDT, do it right

low vigil
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I'm on mobile give me a break

crimson scroll
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1000 series is literally more words than 1950x

small fiber
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Oh WeLl iM sUrE aMd ePyC rOmE 3995 is better than a ryzen 3 1300

crimson scroll
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^

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intel i9-9900k is better than i3-6100!

low vigil
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You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

crimson scroll
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not even remotely in the same price bracket. please don't make stupid comparisons like that

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don't know why you're insulting me, either

small fiber
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You can however compare a ryzen 7 3700x to a ryzen 7 1700x

crimson scroll
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yeah

small fiber
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And you will see quite a massive difference

crimson scroll
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agreed

finite plank
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do i get 5 3600+buy a cooler or 7 3700 with stock coolers wraith prism whatever it is

crimson scroll
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the stock coolers are generally fine...they run a bit hot but won't kill your cpu

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a 3700x will do better with any multitasking, due to the extra cores. for example, if you want to do any video editing

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it's around a hundred bucks difference in the US for the two, whether that's worth it to you...i can't say

finite plank
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guess ill stick to 3600

crimson scroll
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yeah. the 3700x also does slightly better in games, but...key word being slightly

low vigil
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It's fine with stock but will last longer with an aftermarket

crimson scroll
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you mean the silicon won't degrade as fast?

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if it's running really hot, yeah

naive dagger
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3600 is where it’s at 😎

low vigil
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@crimson scroll were do you think the problem lies in my pc

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Computer starts with full fan speed but no connection with the monitor

crimson scroll
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you plugged into the gpu or the mobo

naive dagger
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Lol yeah you have to be into the mobo

crimson scroll
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...no

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that's not always the case

naive dagger
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When you first make it

crimson scroll
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if your cpu has no integrated graphics, you have to plug into your dedicated gpu to get signal out

naive dagger
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Well yeah it’s not the case it’s the mobo

low vigil
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@crimson scroll no no it worked perfectly yesterday

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It's 1 year old

naive dagger
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Oh huh

low vigil
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I took out the ram

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Cleaned it

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Put it back in

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No difference

crimson scroll
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make sure everything is seated properly

low vigil
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Tried a differrnt display port

naive dagger
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Did you dip it in water and bleach

low vigil
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No difference

naive dagger
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Try that

crimson scroll
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can you stop trolling

naive dagger
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...no

crimson scroll
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you're breaking up the chat and making it harder to help them

naive dagger
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Ok

crimson scroll
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go somewhere else

low vigil
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Everything is seated properly cus it was built a year ago

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The problem arised today

crimson scroll
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right, you said you took out the ram and cleaned it

finite plank
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okay i have another dilema

low vigil
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Yes

crimson scroll
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so it's possible it was loose when you reseated that

low vigil
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I did that after that

finite plank
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do i go atx or microatx

low vigil
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In case the problem was in the ram

crimson scroll
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@finite plank do you have any size constraints for your pc

finite plank
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wdym not really

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jsut that i may transport it now and them]

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then

crimson scroll
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if you're not transporting it often, atx is fine

naive dagger
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ATX will fill it more and make it Look less empty

crimson scroll
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@low vigil clear cmos perhaps

low vigil
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I need to access bios for that

naive dagger
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That’s just cosmetic

crimson scroll
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clearing cmos just means powering down and pulling out the watch battery for a couple of seconds

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it resets your bios settings without needing to actually go into bios

low vigil
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The watch battery?

crimson scroll
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yeah

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there's a small battery on your motherboard

finite plank
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ATX will fill it more and make it Look less empty
@naive dagger but wont micro atx do that even more

crimson scroll
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no

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matx is physically smaller

naive dagger
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Micro atx is literally smaller

crimson scroll
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it will take up less space, so you'll have more empty space

finite plank
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oh sorry forgot to say

naive dagger
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My wording was misleading sorry

crimson scroll
low vigil
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@crimson scroll is that advanced

finite plank
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if i got for a micro atx then i will go for a smaller case

crimson scroll
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see the little round watch battery under the gpu?

crimson scroll
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that's the battery you pull for cmos

finite plank
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im looking at the fractal design meshify c regular/mini

low vigil
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To that's mine

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@finite plank c dark tg

crimson scroll
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meshify is fine, just have to add fans to get good thermal performance, at which point you might as well get a different case for the same price

finite plank
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c dark what

crimson scroll
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tg is tempered glass

finite plank
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oh so not the min

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mini

low vigil
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@crimson scroll is there a anything u don't know

crimson scroll
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there's a lot i don't know

finite plank
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so i should just go with atx MB then

naive dagger
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There’s nothing I don’t know 😎

crimson scroll
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yeah

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less likely to run out of usb and system fan headers

naive dagger
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See saucy agrees w/ me

crimson scroll
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can add wifi card and any other expansions you need

naive dagger
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I currently have a crappy WiFi usb; should I switch to a pcie card

finite plank
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mATX comes with wifi tho

crimson scroll
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yes

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wifi usb sticks generally run hot

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@finite plank that's not in the matx spec

low vigil
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@crimson scroll do you think unplugging all usb cables could fix my problem?

crimson scroll
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there are matx boards that come with wifi and bluetooth

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just as there are ATX boards that come with wifi and bluetooth

finite plank
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MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

crimson scroll
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there are also boards of both sizes that don't come with wifi and bluetooth

finite plank
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okay,sorry if im making no sense im so lost

crimson scroll
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@low vigil i've seen a situation where case fans were drawing too much power...so maybe? unlikely but you can try it if you want

naive dagger
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Wait but case fans don’t use usb

finite plank
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so that one i just shared is it worth gettingthat MB along with shrinking a mid tower case

crimson scroll
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they don't, my point was that weird situations can arise where the root cause of the problem is unexpected @naive dagger

naive dagger
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Oh I see

finite plank
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from meshify C to meshify c mini

crimson scroll
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@finite plank i generally view it as better to just buy a wifi expansion card

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if you want the smaller computer, then go matx by all means, nothing wrong with that either

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if you want to go even smaller, like mitx and SFF cases, that starts to get more expensive, and harder to cool

finite plank
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but the matx should be as efficient as the atx build?

crimson scroll
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yes

finite plank
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okay i might do that then

crimson scroll
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be careful with the video card

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make sure you check the case supported gpu length against the actual length of the gpu

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and if you go with an aftermarket cpu cooler, check that it fits the case as well

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for some smaller cases, longer video cards will fit only if you remove the hard drive bays

low vigil
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Yeah the length is a problem

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But sometimes you can move the lower fan up

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Like in my case

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To make it fit

finite plank
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should that all be fine if pc partpicker doesnt say anyything

crimson scroll
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it can't check all dimensions so i would go to the manufacturer websites and double check to be safe

finite plank
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its a Gaming X 5700xt so its not very long

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okay ill have to see

low vigil
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@crimson scroll what's your pc specs

naive dagger
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@crimson scroll what’re your pc’s specs

crimson scroll
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... Why ping me after he pinged me already

naive dagger
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Those aren’t specs

crimson scroll
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Sucks to be you huh

naive dagger
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Uh what

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I genuinely want to know your specs

sinful crypt
crimson scroll
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@low vigil r5 2600, gtx1080, 24gb 3200cl14, ab350 gaming 3, corsair 200r, sn750 500gb, seasonic m12II Evo 520w, bunch of other random drives

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Probably says that because it's scoring lower than other similar gpus

naive dagger
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Cool

sinful crypt
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I hope someone can help me with my GPU issue

crimson scroll
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Well

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Have you overclocked it

sinful crypt
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No

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It's stock

crimson scroll
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thats probably why

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overclock it and you get more performance

sinful crypt
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I'm just a lil concerned with OCing

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Thats an expensive GPU

crimson scroll
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how are the temps on your card under load

sinful crypt
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I dont want it being a brick

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uhhh lemme check

crimson scroll
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overclocking is pretty safe, you can use msi afterburner and just use sliders

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if you're not doing shunt mods and stuff to make your power limit crazy, you'll probably be fine

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you can set temperature limits too so that your card won't overheat

naive dagger
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Can I run battlefield v at ultra on my raspberry pi 3

sinful crypt
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troll :/

crimson scroll
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yeah

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i've just muted them

naive dagger
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Nice

sinful crypt
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I'll mute too

naive dagger
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😭

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Oof

sinful crypt
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@crimson scroll Where can I find these Oc programs?

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And can I read up on em first

crimson scroll
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sure

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with any overclocking, you increase voltage and clock little by little, stress test, and if it's stable, you keep going

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there are safe limits you shouldn't go over, i stick below 105% power limit for my gpu but you can go up to 130

low vigil
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But you can overcloco via bios without installing any software

crimson scroll
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for your CPU

low vigil
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With my bios u can

crimson scroll
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you're talking about your CPU right

sinful crypt
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hmm

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its still pretty risky to OC

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and honestly idk if i NEED too?

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all my games play flawlessly at ultra

static pecan
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@sinful crypt GPUs have built in safeguards to prevent them from bricking so if you push it too far it would just shut itself down and reset itself to default settings before you could literally kill it

sinful crypt
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ok ill try it then

crimson scroll
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if you're happy with your performance

static pecan
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If you're nervous about it look up an OC guide from JayzTwoCents because he uses Afterburner for all his GPU OCs

crimson scroll
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then you don't have to

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but it is kind of a shame to have a 2080ti and not push it a bit

static pecan
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But OCing is free performance so if you have the ability you might as well do it lol

sinful crypt
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ok ill try to oc it and do more test results

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how much should i push

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to try out

crimson scroll
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little bit at a time

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like +50mhz core clock, +100mhz memory clock

static pecan
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Start by dragging the power limit all the way to the right then just gradually bump up clock and memory speeds by like 100mhz at a time until it starts becoming unstable

sinful crypt
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should i have all other apps closed? like discord and stuff

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when doing tests?

crimson scroll
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ideally yes

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you close everything but afterburner and your stress test of choice, like unigine heaven

sinful crypt
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ive only ever used userbenchmark

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to test

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;_; sorry

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is your test free?

crimson scroll
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i'm not familiar with the userbenchmark test, it's fine for comparing to make sure your system is performing up to spec but i don't know if it stress tests

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yes, it's free

sinful crypt
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ok ill try that

static pecan
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download unigine heaven and have it running in loop while you bump up clock and memory speeds. You'll know you're pushing the card too far when you start to see artifacts in the benchmark

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Slide the power limit all the way to the right

crimson scroll
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okay, you see the power limit?

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bump that to the right

sinful crypt
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just like 1?

crimson scroll
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you can unlink the temp and power limit if you want, and manually control the temp limit

sinful crypt
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to the right?

crimson scroll
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no, all the way

sinful crypt
crimson scroll
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should look like that

sinful crypt
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oh wow yours is easier on the eyes than mine

static pecan
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You want the GPU to be able to draw as much power as it can so that's why you move the slider all the way to the right

crimson scroll
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you can change the theme if you'd like, go to settings

sinful crypt
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i have no clue where settings is

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on this

crimson scroll
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then keep clicking right until you get to user interface

static pecan
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Hey that's the theme I use too @crimson scroll lmao

crimson scroll
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you see the middle of the screen?

sinful crypt
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oh the gears!

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ty XD

crimson scroll
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yep

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all the way to the right of the settings tabs is user interface

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the one i have selected is the one i'm using

sinful crypt
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oh god

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i got it

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so much better

static pecan
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Ya the default theme kinda sucks lol

crimson scroll
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okay now you see core clock and memory clock?

sinful crypt
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yes

crimson scroll
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increase those by like 50 or 100mhz

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to the right

sinful crypt
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50 or 100?

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which

crimson scroll
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whichever you want

sinful crypt
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im new to this

crimson scroll
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50 will be slower but will be more fine tuned

sinful crypt
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would 50 be safer?

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or should i just jump

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to 100

crimson scroll
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you can just start with 100

sinful crypt
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ok 100

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on both?

crimson scroll
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yeah on both

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then click the check mark on the right

static pecan
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Since it's a 2080TI you can start with 100 and when it hits it's limit then you can dial in a more precise clock speed

sinful crypt
crimson scroll
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looks good, just gotta apply

static pecan
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Click the check mark to apply

sinful crypt
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oh got it!

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applied

crimson scroll
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cool

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now launch unigine heaven on highest settings

sinful crypt
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ok, close everything else?

crimson scroll
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leave discord open so we can walk you through

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but yeah, close everything but afterburner, unigine heaven, and discord

sinful crypt
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how about my animated background

crimson scroll
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uh

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you can leave it i guess? lol

sinful crypt
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ok!

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installing it now

static pecan
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The best way to monitor everything in real time is to have heaven running on loop in windowed mode with Afterburner overlayed on top of it so you can keep bumping clock speeds and see how that affects temps and FPS. Eventually you'll hit a point where you'll start seeing artifacts in heaven and that's when you start lowering the clock speeds bit by bit until you get rid of those artifacts

sinful crypt
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do i change anything

crimson scroll
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quality to ultra, anti alisasing to 8x, fullscreen off

sinful crypt
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ok, anything else?

crimson scroll
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nope

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you can run it

sinful crypt
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ok running it!

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215fps so far

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280

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350

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ill stop there

static pecan
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Let it run for about 10 minutes in a loop so it gets up to its max temp then start messing with clock speeds

crimson scroll
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it'll fluctuate, certain scenes are easier than others

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don't stop it

static pecan
#

Yeah don't stop it tho keep it running as you're bumping up speeds like I said

sinful crypt
#

whenever i come to talk in discord

#

fps dropps

#

is that ok

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it drops like 15-20 frames

crimson scroll
#

that's normal

sinful crypt
#

ok ill leave this running, says temp is at 78

#

idk if thats good or bad

crimson scroll
#

it's fine

#

it should start throttling at around 80-85

#

if everything looks smooth and no random black spots or anything, bump up the clocks a bit more, by 100mhz

sinful crypt
#

when should i start trying this

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it restarted

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*replaying

crimson scroll
#

the benchmark scenes restarted?

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yeah that's supposed to happen

#

you can start upping the clocks now

sinful crypt
#

ok

crimson scroll
#

remember to apply, then just wait

sinful crypt
#

so what to do now

crimson scroll
#

drag up core and mem clock by 100mhz each and apply

sinful crypt
#

si itll both be 200

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right?

crimson scroll
#

yup

sinful crypt
#

ok it crashed

crimson scroll
#

lol okay

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so we know +200 is too much

#

maybe try +150

sinful crypt
#

should a 2080 TI be crashing

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there?

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or is this normal

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see im worried now lol

crimson scroll
#

every card has different silicon

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some can overclock to higher frequencies with less voltage, some can't

sinful crypt
#

ok so i put it back to 100

crimson scroll
#

1965mhz is fine

sinful crypt
#

uh its not 1965 anymore

crimson scroll
#

some manufacturers also overclock out of the box already

sinful crypt
crimson scroll
#

yeah when not under load your gpu won't be at full frequency

sinful crypt
#

oh gotcha

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ok so should i start at 100 each again?

#

or start at 150 each

crimson scroll
#

mine's sitting at 607mhz right now

#

try starting at 150 each

sinful crypt
#

ok running it

#

its running normally

crimson scroll
#

give it some time to ramp back up

sinful crypt
#

i barely hear the fans, usually i never hear them

crimson scroll
#

if i turn my fans up to 100% on manual mode, they blast so loud

naive dagger
#

both these dudes muted me lol

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Tough 😔

sinful crypt
#

ok its replaying

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do anything different now?

crimson scroll
#

and there's no artifacting?

sinful crypt
#

uhhh

#

define that?

crimson scroll
#

like

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black spots, or textures not loading, or things looking glitchy

sinful crypt
#

oh i mean

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i think all the metal in the game looks terrible

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but thats me

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lol

crimson scroll
#

haha okay

#

so it's fine

#

try +175 on both then

sinful crypt
#

175 ok

#

now?

crimson scroll
#

what temp is the gpu at

sinful crypt
#

82 right now

crimson scroll
#

cool, bump it up to 175

sinful crypt
#

ok did it, still running!

crimson scroll
#

nice, let it keep running for a bit

sinful crypt
#

ok its replaying

crimson scroll
#

everything still looking good?

sinful crypt
#

it fluctates between 82 and 83 degrees

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idk whats a good temp or not

crimson scroll
#

83 won't kill your gpu

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it is in throttle territory

static pecan
#

You can also change the fan curve to make it more aggressive to bring temps down.

sinful crypt
#

should i change fan speeds?

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thatl;l make it louder right?

crimson scroll
#

yes, faster fan = louder

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if you don't mind the noise, then go ahead and turn up the fan speed

static pecan
#

A little bit, but it depends on the quality of the fans on the card how loud they get

sinful crypt
#

uh hold on they are custom fans i got their names here

static pecan
#

What brand is the card from?

crimson scroll
#

heh

static pecan
#

F

sinful crypt
#

wait what happened

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did someone get banned

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why the F

crimson scroll
#

nothing

sinful crypt
#

oh ok

#

uh brand

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Asus right? lemme see

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anyway to check for sure?

crimson scroll
#

could use hwinfo

sinful crypt
#

oh

crimson scroll
#

or open up your pc

sinful crypt
#

hey

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it crashed

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just now

crimson scroll
#

or see if you still have the box somewhere

#

looks like we should stick at +150 then

sinful crypt
#

ok i set it back to 150

crimson scroll
#

you can try changing just one of memory and core clock to see which one you can push a little higher

sinful crypt
#

heres the part list

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that i got

crimson scroll
#

nice

sinful crypt
#

so yeah asus

crimson scroll
#

i'm gonna go ahead and guess that +150 is the limit for your core clock, but you can probably push your memory clock higher, like +500 or more

sinful crypt
#

would that be massive gains or not so much

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also this is in windowed mode, did i want windowed mode?

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or full screen

crimson scroll
#

it wouldn't be massive gains

sinful crypt
crimson scroll
#

is that 1440p or 1080p

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oh nvm i see

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1071 haha'

sinful crypt
#

im assuming 1080p

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1071?

crimson scroll
#

you need to get a larger res monitor, a 1080p monitor with a 2080ti is sacrilege

sinful crypt
#

;_;

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im just using my original monitors

#

any suggestions?

crimson scroll
#

i would look into 1440p 144hz or 4k 60hz

sinful crypt
#

ok should i do a test now?

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Hopefulyl its improved some

crimson scroll
#

another test?

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uh...sure

sinful crypt
#

the userbenchmark one

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i meant

crimson scroll
#

oh

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yeah go ahead

sinful crypt
#

the one that says im underperforming

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hey so, that last pic says gpu had 4gb of memory?

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Shouldnt it be 11?

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Yeah, says i have 11gb

crimson scroll
#

that's probably just the test

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my test says that too

sinful crypt
#

ok whew

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do i need to leave the msi up all the time to keep the +150?

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Or is it a set it and forget it

crimson scroll
#

you can enable it to apply at startup

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also, have you OC'd your cpu at all

sinful crypt
#

Nope!

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Everything is stock

crimson scroll
#

looks like your 9900k is still at 3.60ghz

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should OC that too then

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it will take longer

sinful crypt
#

thats dangerous tho right, no failsafe like the gpu

crimson scroll
#

no there is

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your computer will shut down if it gets to tjmax

sinful crypt
crimson scroll
#

yeah start with windows

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and then click apply at startup in the main screen

sinful crypt
#

and it automatically applies?

crimson scroll
#

yeah

sinful crypt
#

ok!

#

lemme try this test before we oc anything else

#

btw ty for your help!

crimson scroll
#

no prob

#

make sure you save to a profile and lock it

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so you won't lose the OC settings

sinful crypt
#

just did that!

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thanks!

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for percentiles

#

is higher better or worse

crimson scroll
#

higher is better

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99th percentile means better than 99% of the population

sinful crypt
#

damn

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my tests went DOWN

crimson scroll
#

lol

sinful crypt
crimson scroll
#

check what other 2080ti users are getting fps wise on the unigine test

sinful crypt
#

og the GPU score went up

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everything else went down

crimson scroll
#

variance is expected

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you run the same thing 100 times, you're not gonna get the same numbers

sinful crypt
#

hmm ok, why is my samsung drive so bad?

crimson scroll
#

dunno

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could be windows doing background stuff at the same time

sinful crypt
#

damn

crimson scroll
#

you can close everything down and run a crystaldisk benchmark on it

sinful crypt
#

all these benchmarks i never heard of

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ill def try

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i have a samsung monitor

crimson scroll
#

uhh

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your monitor shouldn't affect anything

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apart from what res you run stuff at

sinful crypt
#

It has a benchmark too

#

idk if its good

crimson scroll
#

looks fine

sinful crypt
#

looks ok?

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why is it rated so low on both then lol

crimson scroll
#

yeah

sinful crypt
#

damn

crimson scroll
#

don't worry so much about the userbenchmark benchmark

sinful crypt
#

is there a better benchmark?

crimson scroll
#

for SSDs specifically? the most common one is crystaldisk, but there's a lot

sinful crypt
#

oh no for everything

crimson scroll
#

sequential r/w is overrated anyways, most people care about random perf

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for everything? nah, just use separate benchmarks

sinful crypt
#

oh ok

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i also didnt know the intel one was better than the samsung

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but i just learned about that last week lol

crimson scroll
#

it's ... not

sinful crypt
#

oh?

crimson scroll
#

660p is QLC and 1800/1800 r/w

#

970 evo plus is 3500/3300, TLC, and is categorized as top tier prosumer

#

also, your ram is 3600cl18 but i don't think you were running it at that speed when you posted your hwinfo

#

did you enable XMP in bios?

sinful crypt
#

i dont think so?

#

ill try again

#

where would i find that setting

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in the bios

crimson scroll
#

under advanced frequency probably?

#

i don't know what the intel gigabyte bios looks like

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or advanced memory

sinful crypt
#

ok ill try and see in a bit

#

i have discord on phone

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i guess i could take phone pics

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<

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ok going into bios now

#

brb

humble oar
#

two days ago all i needed was a power supply and motherboard. now i have to start over

crimson scroll
#

do you have more profiles under XMP zeeyaz

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and what do you mean @humble oar

humble oar
#

my dad smashed all of my parts and my phone AND i have no money 🤠

sinful crypt
#

Lemme look

crimson scroll
#

you pay for all the parts yourself?

low vigil
#

@sinful crypt sick we have the same bios

humble oar
#

yea i did

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about 1.2k worth of parts

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took me years to make enough money for them

static pecan
#

Why exactly did that happen?

humble oar
#

it's a long story

hidden spade
#

im gettings a ryzen 3 3100 and gtx 1650 super

#

any good?

crimson scroll
#

price gap right now between 3100 and 3300x makes the 3100 not worth it, at least in the US

#

and 1650 super is...meh

hidden spade
#

i need a cpu and gpu 300$ combo

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budget

sinful crypt
crimson scroll
#

@humble oar i'm sorry, nobody should have that happen. I don't know what your family dynamic is like but i hope you can work it out and get your parts back

sinful crypt
#

Just 1 profile or disable

hidden spade
#

1

crimson scroll
#

@hidden spade 3600 and used rx580

hidden spade
#

ok i will look into it

crimson scroll
#

@sinful crypt you sure your ram is 3600cl18? check if your motherboard supports higher ram speeds

humble oar
#

i hope so too. maybe by the time i finally have enough money to get new parts i'll be able to get the best parts

sinful crypt
#

Uh I'll get into windows and check

hidden spade
#

@crimson scroll is it ryzen 5

crimson scroll
#

yes, ryzen 5 3600

hidden spade
#

wait what

crimson scroll
#

amazon and walmart have been at war lowering the price very slowly, you can get one for about 160

hidden spade
#

i thought u said 3600

crimson scroll
#

typed the wrong one sorry

hidden spade
#

but ok

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oh

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i wil see

crimson scroll
#

and you can pick up a used 580 for around 140

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whats your overall budget

low vigil
#

@crimson scroll is it true that there's not much difference between a brand new gpu and second hand

hidden spade
#

overral budget for pc

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600

crimson scroll
#

for the most part yes

hidden spade
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i mean

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like 500 best

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but 600 its ok

sinful crypt
crimson scroll
#

and you're located in the US?

#

@sinful crypt so your ram is 3000cl15, but your parts list has it at 3600cl18

sinful crypt
#

uh oh i probably got the wrong ram then

#

Do I need to do anything right now then?

#

Or is this not good ram

crimson scroll
#

it's fine

#

and you had xmp enabled

sinful crypt
#

Hmm ok

crimson scroll
#

@hidden spade yeah going used will definitely get you the best bang for buck at a 600 budget

hidden spade
#

hmm

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idk

low vigil
#

@crimson scroll what phone do you use

crimson scroll
#

?? why

hidden spade
#

i already have my parts on amazon save for later for 600$

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but when corona over its gonna drop

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so imma wait

crimson scroll
#

yeah, if you wait then ask again right when you're about to build

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prices will shift

hidden spade
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i need a 500gb

crimson scroll
#

that case also needs some extra fans, you can pick up arctic fans for cheap

hidden spade
#

ye i will ask my mom to pay for pc parts and i will pay for mouse keyboard monitor and all that

crimson scroll
#

@low vigil to elaborate on what i said earlier, any decent gpu miner would have undervolted and underclocked their gpus, so that wouldn't be a concern with shortened lifespan. A card used for exotic overclocking and pushing power limits would be at a much higher risk for a shortened lifespan. Most used cards are perfectly safe to use though

hidden spade
#

the 1650s and rx580 is only 10$ difference so i dont see the reason cuz the 1650s gets more fps

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i think

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i looked at reviews

crimson scroll
#

true

hidden spade
#

ye imma just stick with 1650s

#

i looked at those vs videos loll

naive dagger
#

Me with my 570 8gb

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😢

hidden spade
#

oof

naive dagger
#

Saucy and zeeyaz muted me 🤬

#

Is what good

hidden spade
#

hold up

#

it need to save

crimson scroll
#

what needs to save

hidden spade
#

the screen recording

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i need to show

noble oak
#

hi

crimson scroll
#

hi

noble oak
#

Do you think this is good price to preformance ram

low vigil
#

Hi my mom says I can't play more pc and that I'm addicted and that I need treatment. What should I do? Please help me

noble oak
#

Therapy

crimson scroll
#

3200cl16 for 113? not a good deal

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unless you really like the design

noble oak
#

What’s a good price for 3200 16gb

crimson scroll
#

you can get it as cheap as 60 bucks

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won't be the best overclocking ram, but it'll run just fine

noble oak
#

Ok thanks!

crimson scroll
#

and that's not really a building a pc question, but sounds like you and your mom need to talk about your screentime and how much is healthy

#

i have no idea how old you are and how much you play

low vigil
#

Will overclocking your ram affect its health

crimson scroll
#

not if you keep it at a safe voltage

#

generally up to 1.4 is very safe

hidden spade
#

ok

#

look

#

is this good

#

nooooooo

#

nooo

#

file too big

crimson scroll
#

upload it to streamable or youtube

hidden spade
#

ok

#

imma upload on my alt

#

@crimson scroll

#

is this good

crimson scroll
#

you made...a video...to show a parts list?

low vigil
#

Yes

hidden spade
#

Yes

low vigil
#

😂

crimson scroll
#

just make a pcpartspicker list and share it, so much easier to read

hidden spade
#

oh

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well it had everything setup

#

not just pc parts

low vigil
#

Lmaooo

crimson scroll
#

you can add non pc parts to pcpartpicker

hidden spade
#

.

low vigil
#

He actually uploaded it to YouTube

crimson scroll
hidden spade
#

its my alt

#

it has 0 subs lol

crimson scroll
#

i'm not gonna watch that video, sorry

low vigil
#

480p60 fps

#

Waaaat

#

That's a first

crimson scroll
#

thought it was like a video of an error or something that you were having trouble with

low vigil
#

So smooth

#

@hidden spade how do you record like that

#

What's your phone

hidden spade
#

iphone 8 bro it literally just got uploaded

#

i didnt even use editing software

#

thats why

#

dum

#

@crimson scroll bro im not gonna make that whole list again

sinful crypt
#

@crimson scroll thanks man, just tried a game and got 32fps more

#

feels good

crimson scroll
#

nice

#

you'll get a lot more in cpu bound games once you OC your cpu too

sinful crypt
#

Isn't WoW a cpu bound game?

#

Im trying to think whats cpu bound

crimson scroll
#

csgo lol

#

everything runs that at high frames though

finite plank
#

yo

#

can anyone quickly finish off my builld

#

buying my parts right now just need a good mid-high end motherboard

crimson scroll
#

why are you mixing and matching the fans?

#

also the one you originally had in there was fine

finite plank
#

sorry ignore that

#

just going with 2 140mm fans

#

the case comes with 2

#

Acer Nitro VG271UPbmiipx 27 inch is this a good monitor?

crimson scroll
#

the one you have on there is a good one

#

the acer is fine, just meh contrast ratio apparently

finite plank
#

but no freesync

#

or does that not rlly matter

crimson scroll
#

?

#

the lg has freesync

#

and is widely regarded as having really good image quality

finite plank
#

it doesnt say freesync

crimson scroll
#

the acer stand is also kind of meh, looking at the pictures

finite plank
#

oh nvm it does

crimson scroll
#

it has both freesync and gysnc compatibility

finite plank
#

just doesnt have it in the title but it has it in the desc

#

ok ty

#

this is going to hurt my wallet

crimson scroll
#

i mean

finite plank
#

still stuck on a motherboard

crimson scroll
#

don't spend money that you can't, right

finite plank
#

lmao yeh

crimson scroll
#

on stuff for myself, my general rule is don't get it unless i can safely afford buying two of them

#

also like i pointed out earlier you don't need a separate tube of thermal paste

finite plank
#

yeah

#

why not though does it com with some

crimson scroll
#

most coolers come preapplied or have a little tube or pouch

finite plank
#

oh okay

crimson scroll
#

comes with mx-4

#

anyways, you could get a b450-a pro max, a aorus elite, the b450/550 tomahawk/max, etc

#

lots of good options

finite plank
#

what about the fan i have rn

crimson scroll
#

i think it's weird you're picking two different ones

finite plank
#

wdym

crimson scroll
#

do you really like the look of the meshify c?

finite plank
#

nono the cpu fan

#

yeah alot

crimson scroll
#

huh, okay

#

the cpu cooler is fine

finite plank
#

does that come with thermal paste

crimson scroll
#

i'd go for the 34 duo if it wasn't so overpriced

#

and yes, that's what i just pointed out with that link

finite plank
#

ok

crimson scroll
#

the website for the cooler states it comes with mx-4

finite plank
#

ok good

#

ty

crimson scroll
#

a lot of people don't like the aorus elite bios so maybe don't pick that one

finite plank
#

for the fans im just getting 2 bionix

#

ok

#

need something on amazon rlly everything else is amazon

crimson scroll
#

a lot of your stuff on that list isn't

finite plank
#

it is for like a couple £ extra

#

which idm paying

crimson scroll
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

finite plank
#

XD

crimson scroll
#

mind sending some of that money my way

#

are you getting like

finite plank
#

XDD

crimson scroll
#

an employee discount, or that 5% on amazon prime card?

#

what's the fixation with buying from amazon

finite plank
#

prime

#

and it all comes wednesday

#

rather than wait 2 weeks

crimson scroll
#

i guess if you're super impatient

finite plank
#

i am

crimson scroll
#

uhh

#

well it adds quite a bit imo buying from amazon

#

everything from amazon uk

finite plank
#

yeah ik

#

im going for the b550 tomohawk

#

total of 1553 for me

crimson scroll
#

nearly $2k, nice

finite plank
#

oh but i need wifi on the MB

#

ffs XD

crimson scroll
#

add a wifi card

finite plank
#

how much is it roughly

#

and whats a good one

crimson scroll
#

the tplink ac1300 is a good budget one

#

or the asus ones, they make progressively more expensive ones

finite plank
#

ok

#

what about the gigabyte b450

crimson scroll
#

which one

crimson scroll
#

seems fine

crimson scroll
#

also...fine

#

you're getting a 3600, any board will run it

#

if you're worried about upgrading in the future, get a b550 or b450 tomahawk max

#

really solid vrm on those

crimson scroll
#

the price

#

in that price range, then the aorus pro/elite or steel legend

finite plank
#

ok

#

so aorus pro is a better option

#

ok its done

#

phew finally

crimson scroll
#

i really recommend doing your own research, finding reputable reviewers and making your decisions based on that

#

I like gamersnexus and the people they collaborate with

finite plank
#

ive done that but then when i do a parts list i just get violated XD

crimson scroll
#

?

finite plank
#

ive done some research and put together a parts list but when i come to posting it and asking if its good, its all wrong

crimson scroll
#

it can definitely take time, just gotta learn what fits what price bracket and what's suitable for what purpose

#

like, at a 2k price point, it's a little weird to me you choose such a dinky cooler. there's nothing wrong with it, it's just not super balanced

finite plank
#

idk its just that a 5 3600 doesnt need an aio imo no?

#

maybe a 7 3700 yeah

crimson scroll
#

it doesn't...but you could get a nice cooler for 60 bucks that will keep it really cool

#

air cooler

#

and the fact that we picked a sata m.2 drive over an nvme when the prices are generally pretty comparable

humble oar
#

i was planning to use the stock cooler with the 7 3700x

crimson scroll
#

Sure

#

It works fine

low vigil
#

@crimson scroll you've been here all day all night

crimson scroll
#

observant

low vigil
#

@crimson scroll how do I do that psu reset thing

#

My pc still won't start

crimson scroll
#

You mean motherboard?

low vigil
#

Idk

crimson scroll
#

Unplug your psu then pull the cmos battery

#

I'm going to bed good luck

low vigil
#

That's not much help

late carbon
#

lol

unborn kiln
#

Basically what he said was
On the motherboard there is a battery take the battery out plug your Pau in and start up

heavy dragon
#

hi i was wondering if i should upgrade to a rtx 2060
i got a gtx 1650, an i5 (sry idk which one), 16gb ram
with my current pc i play warzone with 50-60 fps with all settings low, 1907/1040 resolution and 95 render scaling

#

sry for bad english

clear jacinth
#

yes, you can do it

heavy dragon
#

nice thx

clear jacinth
#

also, not the exact parts i'll be using, they're similar though

uneven crystal
#

I’d go with an rtx 2070 or 2070 super @clear jacinth

clear jacinth
#

nah

#

I'm not gonna use ray tracing

#
  • it will be $100-$200 more expensive