#💻-building-a-pc
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ohh
a 3950x is more than he has on his list anyways
I mean 60 c isn’t bad at all
but performance will translate over in the same way
also that's delta, not absolute temp
so it's 60c + whatever ambient is in their testing, which is 21
oh so 81
that means the corsair a500 is absolute garbage compared to the others
because of its coldplate levelness
yep
that's an air cooler btw
oh lol
anyways, there are no lower tier cpus tested here, only intel hedt and amd hedt
reason being you don't generate enough heat to really warrant the AIO with the other chips
so price/performance it makes sense to go air
but like you said, potentially less maintenance, and aesthetics are up to the user
lol should i worry or naw
and i already said
for the dimensions
go to the manufacturer websites
and check what maximum gpu/cpu cooler size they support
the usb c port on the case won't work which might be a downside
this is what i see
when i open the con trol pannel
..
nothing else
and i am worried
@clear jacinth but ye i have the Acer Predator prebuild from a year or 5 ago
I have a sharkoon prebuilt, gt 1030, amd a8-9600 4 cores 8 threads, 370 euro’s...
I7 4790(ish) and an AMD graphics card. But now replaced it with a GTX 1060 and put in a new 1tb ssd
oh and did I mention the ddr3 ram
does look like a hardware issue, unlikely its hardware @noble oak
8 gb
predators are good
Ye but my next pc will be a custom build
Realisticly i would just need a new processor motherboard and ram
water cooling is good but meh, would rather not risk mucho expensive hardware
As i still have a gtx 1060 which should be fine for a while
well my pc is kinda out of date
mines been out of date for a few years 👀
I play destiny on medium graphics and hit 60fps
Oof
literally
no it can run minecraft and valorant so I’m ok with it
yikes, although fps does depend on exterior factors i.e. monitor refresh rate
you guys talkign about prebuildts?
I have a 24” 4ms 60hz monitor from acer
i have a laptop
4 gb?
@noble oak make sure your card is being picked up by the system, press win key + r and type "devmgmt.msc", then look at "display adaptors"
it wasn’t terrible untill I saw the amount of ram lol
I mean laptops are quite hard to upgrade something in the system
sorry my english isn’t good it’s 4 am
all good
but its on the contrary with acers
acer predators have doors on the bottom of the system that makes it insanely easy to access
possibly easier than upgrading a tower
predator helios 300 https://i.imgur.com/GjMYwBc.png
left is ssd/hdd i guess although that's a singular bay
yeah seeing as it has two sticks in already, lmfao
ye charlie its all good
idk why is the nvidia control pannel bad
and i need help with that
good thing is control panel isn't essential, shouldn't provide any performance issues
I don’t think I used it once lol
it's important for multi monitor config
yes
I don’t have multiple monitors so 🤷
o
yeah thats fair
O
alrighty, logging off for today, goodnight everyone
gnite
Gn m8
What’s a mid to high end mother board? Planning on getting 2080 super, ryz7 3700x
B550 any good?
@finite plank try this one Asus AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus
its good but not breaking the 200 bucks
I’m about to buy a Asus Rog Strix 2070 Super mainly for COD, Minecraft, and maybe fortnite. Any opinions on it?
(Ping me if you do)
What brands have the best budget ddr 3 memory?
@charred yoke honestly not sure but I can tell you that you can find ddr4 memory for only a few bucks more
Corsair and Team Group has good DDR3
Its $50 for 16gb
But as Ex said, if you can get DDR4 and have a compatible motherboard, I’d say go with DDR4.
It’s worth it
corsair vengeance lpx is around $60 in my country :p (16gb 3200 mhz)
ty @noble oak
@finite plank i'm getting most of the same parts as you (2070 super tho, because i don't have $750 to spend on a GPU) and i'm getting the Asus TUF X570-Plus, like uhh "Jesus Christ" said lol
@humble oar if you're getting a 2070s why not get a 5700xt? It's $100 cheaper and matches or beats the 2070 super in every benchmark
Im looking for a good 1080 gpu that wont cost Alot of money
@static pecan my plan is to have 2070 super until i make enough money to swap to 2080ti
Then you could put that $100 you'd save with a 5700XT towards the 2080TI lol
You can find a triple fan 5700XT for under $400 from XFX meanwhile the cheapest 2070 super is $500 or more for a dual fan
And in basically every game the two cards are within 5-10 FPS of one another which you'll never be able to actually notice when gaming
some people don't want to deal with driver issues
personally i would also pick the 5700xt
but a lot of people have had a lot of issues, even with the newest driver fixes
I'm getting a 2060s over a 5700xt because I wanna use raytracing in some games (forza horizon 4 and some other games)
The driver issues are apparently mostly based on what card you get. According to the reviews I've read of the XFX card no one has has reported having driver issues using that particular card
I've never had issues with my geforce drivers :p
amd cards are known to be buggy sometimes
amd cards are great for budget builds though
Based on all the issues I've had with drivers and software with the 1650 that's in my laptop rn I'm never buying another Nvidia card lmao
Plus the 1650 died on me 7 months after buying the laptop and I had to send it off to be repaired
I'm one of the unlucky hundreds or thousands of people that get an Nivida card that literally can just stop wanting to output a video signal
I did some research and apparently this issue goes back to at least the 950 and all the way up to the 2080TI. Sometimes the card will just stop outputting a signal out of nowhere even if you don't mess with any ports or wiring
My card died in the middle of a game lol
oof
There's hundreds of posts about the issue on the Nvidia forums
But on top of that I've had so many issues with Shadowplay refusing to work despite multiple reinstalls of both GeForce Experience and the drivers themselves, I've had problems with the drivers making pretty much all of my games crash, and just a bunch of little issues and inconveniences that have amounted to me absolutely hating this card
My old RX460 has never had this many issues. In fact, I've never really had any issues with it at all + that card is OCd and still going strong after 4 years of pretty heavy use
Building a PC right now and I’m looking at GPU’s I’m planning on getting a Asus rog strix 2070 super, anyone have a review on that?
it's good if u want to use raytracing in 1080p/1440p and maybe 4k, but if you don't want to use it you can better go with a rx 5700 xt
It basically comes down to this: Is Raytracing worth an extra $100 to you? @noble oak
Yea, I’m trying to get a decent gaming experience but not spend too much money. I’m planning on getting the $439.99 instead of the $539.99 super overclocking.
what cpu are you gonna pair it with if I may ask?
If Raytracing isn't important to you you can grab a triple fan XFX 5700XT for $379 on Newegg
Ryzen 5 3600x.
good choice
And get the same FPS as a 2070 Super but $100 less
I would get an i7 but it’s just too expensive right now.
Alan I will look more into that graphics card, always trying to save money.
i5 10600k is the most you need for gaming anyways
overclocks to stock 10900k performance
you'll only care about frames past that if you're a professional player
@clear jacinth
that looks sick
Ikr
Looks cute
I9 9900k
RTX 2080ti
32gb ddr4 ram
ASUS prime z390A
COUGAR CONQUER 2 atx full tower
Soo many rgb
For that^
But how much tho? lmao
I’ve bought
I9 9900k
32gb ddr4 ram
ASUS prime z390A
COUGAR CONQUER 2 atx full tower
Currently at 2370
CAD
Holy $hit that's a bit over $1700 US lol
Gpu is 1900 cad
why aren't you going full out and get a 10900k :p
i personally want RTX with my GPU, which is why i'm getting the 2070 super
I'm gonna be picking up a 3080 I reckon when they drop
RTX Titan or 2080Ti?
The 2080Ti is better purely because of the money you save
money isn’t an issue
why aren't you going full out and get a 10900k :p
@clear jacinth I would but I forgot it existed until after I bought the 9900k
Well then Titan all the way, but Nvidia is expected to release a new line in September so you could wait
Asus AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) ATX ay this comes with a wifi anttena or no?
ping to tell me
@noble oak yes its in the name
thanks chickens man
it litterally has wifi in the name
don't be a bully dude, some of us are almost illiterate with how not smart we are
it can be exasperating and frustrating sometimes with how simple it is, but yeah, everybody makes mistakes sometimes. I've missed stuff in product titles before
@median rivet is there any expected specs for them?
You could probably find something online, but they're meant to be a hell of a lot better than current 20 series according to what I read a few months ago
It feels like we are at the point where it just can’t get better
Like the 20 series is phenomenal
I can’t imagine how it gets better
I swear I read that they're like 20% faster or something but I could be wrong
What are some good SSD cards?
m.2?
Ok decided against rtx Titan and I think I’m going to go with SLI 2080 ti
Spicy
you will not get a performance boost in most games and is a waste of money
may even impact your performance
sli is meant for two mid range gpus to perform like a high end gpu
and then the performance boost is usually around 20% for double the price
exactly, it’s actually pretty rare to find a game that supports it
SLI and CrossFire are both pretty much dead at this point. Nvidia only supports it in the 2080 and up (I think) and even then most games don't use it and for most people (unless you're working in 3D modeling software or something every day) don't see a performance increase. Of course, if you just have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket you can buy two GPUs and use one for running games and one as a dedicated video encoder for OBS or something if you stream a lot.
I've seen setups with a 1650 super sli
What's the point of doing that
Nvidia doesn't officially support SLI on anything lower than a 2080, but people have of course found ways around that to unofficially support it on lower-tier cards
not sure if this is the correct channel to ask this, but are red or brown switches smoother? wanna buy the apex 7 tkl but i'm not sure yet if im gonna get the reds or browns
Browns are tactile and relitively quiet, linears dont have any feedback. It's abot ho you want it to feel, not sound.
well I asked about the smoothness, not the sound
To me browns feel better because they give that little bit of tactile feel without being loud and stiff like blues. Reds just feel too mushy for me to be comfortable typing with
Honestly it really is just personal preference though and if we were still in 2019 I'd say go out to a Best Buy or other tech store that has keyboards on display for you try out so you can see what feel you like the best, but that's not possible right now
here it is, the netherlands. we don't even need to wear masks out in public, unless we travel by train or buss
tl;dr- reds dont have feedback, browns are tactile and quiet, and blues are tactile and loud
Oh ya I sometimes forget other countries are actually living normally and don't have an exponential increase in the virus like us in the U.S. lmao
If you can go to a shop and try out different keyboards then definitely do that
Here in the "Greatest country in the world" the very existence of the virus has turned into a political opinion
bruh
we had to stay at home for 2 months and now we don't have that many cases over here
Apparently New Zealand is completely COVID free now
those fans do be spinning
Does this mean my computer has 4 fans
Fractal design meshify dark tg has
*Two pre-installed Fractal Design Dynamic X2 GP-12 120 mm fans
It's a cpu fan and 3 case fans
And I bought Corsair ML140 pro
But they also sent this
Is this from the towers stock fan
They built the pc for me
It says the case follows with 2 ok. Then I bought one ml140 ok that's 3. Now when I look inside the pc I see 4 fans. 2 on top, 1 front and 1 rear. And now this extra fan in my hand
That makes it 5
Can someone who's not stupid like me explain how this makes sense
What cpu cooler do you have?
@median rivet Corsair hydro h100i pro RGB
There's 2 more fans for ya
Lol how
2 on the rad, 2 by default in case, 1 ML140 and the bonus one wouldn't fit
Oh the CPU coolers are the 2 fans on the top right @median rivet
Cus the blades are white
That's how I recognize
Yeah I reckon so
So it's actually one front and one back
And I assume they removed one stock
Since that's the one I have in my hand
And the replaced it with the ml140
Correct? @median rivet
That'll be the ml140
Noicee
Now this puzzle makes sense
I've been thinking about this for a year
And the one on the back is the case default fan
Yeah should be
They swapped out the one at the front with the ml140 so they just gave you the default one (that they took out) as a spare
dynamic x2 gp-12
Yee
Thia friend who helped me pick the parts said it would be better to have that
Over the stock
No clue, not much of a fan man me
How can a 140mm fan fit in a 120mm fan slot
There's always google
Why you bully me
Because idk
Please
No what I mean is I don't know
Should you generally leave more space at the front or back of the case. The place is kinda closed
Should the intake have more space or the exhale
I don't know much about pcs
What do you know much about @fiery crescent
Ok, is the Nvidia Rtx 2060 Super any good? I watched a lot of game plays and reviews and they all said it's ok for its price. Any opinions?
I know somewhat about periphs
Can anyone help me find a good motherboard? I really want a MSI B450 Gaming Plus but I can’t find any on NewEgg
Ay dude I found one on new egg. Tell me if this is yours 🙂
@hallow falcon
That might be it... I know very little about building, I’m thinking on just using this as a mode
what mobo should i get with a 1660 super and a ryzen 5 3600?
b450
b450 or 550?
or b550 if you want to upgrade later down the line
thanks
Not quite a rog strix
huh
can someone check out my build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X99tDx
looks good
should i change something
not really i'd say
you think it can run games more than 100 fps
yeah
okay
i want to play valorant and warzone
okay thanks
np
cya
Is valorant actually fun to play
yes
It seemed interesting until u could kill 5 people with one knife throw
That's just lame
Knife throw???
it's Jett's ultimate
Ye
Ooh yea
@lusty palm You could save some money by going with G Skill Trident Z RGB for $87. It's 3200mhz with a CAS of 16 which will actually perform a bit better than the CAS 18 Vengeance you have now. You can also save an additional $120 by going with the XFX Rx5700XT for $380 instead of a 2070 Super. You get the same FPS in games, and since you aren't playing anything that has Raytracing there's really no reason to spend an extra $100 just for an Nvidia card
I don't like that stuff how is that fair
Its a ultimate
- 5 people should be perfectly a lined
You need to get kills for it
- collect ult orbs
Or per round one point
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XWwthg any critics?
might as well get a sn550 for the same price as that wd blue
also i have no idea on that case, and you can get cheaper ram that's not rgb, but it's perfectly adequate and fairly priced. seems like a decent list other than those nitpicks
thanks
i like the look of the case because i prefer it to perhaps the nzxt h510
so yeah
that's fine, if you like rgb and want to spend extra you can go for the p400a if you can find it in stock
idk about the airflow of that case though
i don't see a ton of ventilation on the case you picked
ok
maybe get something like the Corsair Carbide 275R
no
wait
forgot the word airflow :p
I believe it comes with either 2 or 3 fans already
thanks
np
what is the benifit of 3600 speed ram to 3200 speed?
it's basically faster
not much though, but if you're going with ryzen i'd suggest getting 3200 mhz
ok
well
speed isn't everything
you need to watch out for latency too
3200 cl16 is roughly equivalent to 3600 cl18
and also whats the diffrence between a modular and non modular psu 😅
ram can get kinda complicated, like not going over 3733mhz for ryzen infinity fabric
modular means no cables come preattached
the psu will come with a bunch and you plug in what you need
3200 cl16 is roughly equivalent to 3600 cl18
@crimson scroll ok thanks
semimodular means the 24 pin and 8 pin connectors are fixed on the psu, you can attach peripheral/sata/pcie cables as you need
nonmodular means every cable is fixed on the psu
so modular means you only use the connections you need
modular can give a cleaner look and is easier to cable manage, but semimodular is usually cheaper, and only has what you need anyways, since you absolutely need the 24pin and 8pin cpu
and yeah that's correct
👍
also
when we're talking about ram speeds like 3200, 3600, etc
those aren't stock speeds, those are factory rated overclocks
you have to enable XMP otherwise you'll probably be running at 2400 or 2666
oh
most ram kits will work with most motherboards, but to be safe you should check motherboard QVL lists to make sure
Hey I got a question, when picking your parts from PC Part Picker does it also mean your parts are compatible?
the good thing is xmp is very simple if you don't wanna mess around
@noble oak yes, it might give you some warnings if it can't check clearances/bios
im looking at the b450 tomahawk max
K thanks
if you select a r5 3600 for example it'll display motherboards that are compatible
i was using teamgroup tforce which i guess is like great value 
it's pretty good, same with oloy
it's not as name brand in the US yet despite being pretty reputable
but i installed the new two, and my monitors wouldn't connect at all, then went back to old ram and still not connect to monitors. took like 5 hours of tinkering to get it to work.
now i got corsair vengeance to install tonight.
did you figure out the problem
oooh nice
nope. sadly not.
corsair vengeance
we think the start of the issue is two sticks of ram was 3200 and other two were 3000
so it may have messed up bios
it should just lower the speeds to the slower kit but maybe
Yeah thats what everyone said, but like it wouldn't allow me to go into bios or anything. Monitors wouldn't connect but PC was running
did you try clearing cmos
thats the battery yes?
then xmp would probably reset and you'd have four sticks at stock
yeah the watch battery
yes we did
it took going down to 1 8g stick to get into bios then defaulting in bios
but it took quite a bit of trial and error for such a simple process
sounds out of my pay grade haha, that's a good troubleshooting method to go down to one stick though ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Hopefully tonight is just plug and play 🤞
this is why i'm not gonna mess with mixing two different kits
You know what they say, if I didn't have bad luck I wouldn't have any luck at all 
although...can't really say i'm running my ram optimally either...only filling slots 2, 3, and 4 because i put my cooler on the wrong way and the little amd logo is blocking slot 1
rough :/ yeah i'm using 2&4. I didn't mean to buy different speeds, was an error by me. But I wasn't expecting anything like that to happen.
Thankfully its all fixed for now.
Can I post sexy Iroh here?
no
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WJqqtp thoughts?
matx board in atx case 
also like i told the other guy, sn550 is the same price as that wd blue, might as well get the better drive
other than that, looks good
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F34DYH the matx thing doesn't matter that much, but you might as well get a bigger board for expansion slots and such since your case supports it. and it'll look nicer instead of looking empty.
Day 1 of the new build is done gotta wait till I go back to my cottage to get the old parts out of my old pc
Hot
lian li o11 dynamic, nice
Ya I love the look of it had to get it for this build @crimson scroll
That’s a 240
Ya it’s the H100i platinum rgb SE
I honestly don’t mind the look
I still think it looks really nice
I tried to evenly put it in the middle so it wasn’t tooo funky
what if
put the rad at the bottom
add another case fan on top
wouldn't do much for thermals but would look cool
or, since your gpu will be lower
put the rad up top, add a fan on the bottom
then you'd get more air to your gpu
I could do that but I have enough fans for 2 on the bottom 2 on the top and I’m lazy
fair
I think it looks great how it is I guess I’m just not super picky with it but I appreciate the suggestions
👍 if you like it thats what matters
I’ll definitely look into it. The build isn’t finished yet anyway I need to get some parts from my old build
Any recommendations on a 240mm AIO? I’ve been looking at NZXT Kraken coolers but didn’t know if there was a better one out there.
Or should I invest in a better CPU? I currently have a R5 2600. I know the AIO is for higher performing CPUs but didn’t know what I should do first
The krakens are pretty expensive but I’ve heard good things I was looking into an x63 cuz it wasn’t a bad price but I wanted a white build so I went with Corsair
liquid freezer II if you can find it msrp
ek 240 aio also good
those two are chart toppers for noise normalized performance
the krakens are fine, just loud for same performance
Ok
As for that I’d upgrade cpu first tbh the 2600 isn’t bad but go to say a ryzen 7 3700 and you’ll be doing way better off in the cpu department the ryzen 5 3600 is also a great cpu I loved it
@crimson scroll definitely has more info on coolers than me cuz I’m still learning
Thanks you guys
Np we’re all here to help each other
I’ll look into those 👍
I kinda went all out and just picked up a 3900x
i recommend gamersnexus a lot, good documented methodology and testing
I love the charts they have they show a lot of info
the 240 liquid II isn't on there but is very likely to be close to the ek 240, based on the 280 and 360 performances
Bro can you teach me your big brainedness on coolers I only know a little when it comes to the rest of the pc and even then I’m not super knowledgeable
I want to work as a pc builder one day so now I have 3 builds under me
the important parts are obviously price, performance, and noise
and to some extent case compatibility
Lmaooo that was me with Linus back when I started learning
find reputable reviews on coolers and make decisions based on that
note that you can't really compare reviews between different reviewers
same as you can't compare TDP, CFM, etc between manufacturers
I should’ve done more research on the cooler but I don’t think the H100i is thaaat bad right mystery internet cooler guy
Different reviewers with a different batch of product
That’s why things can be very different between testers
yeah, the h100i seems fine
Or one person will get one faulty product and claim they are all bad
the big thing is that these coolers are +/- 9 degrees of each other
Thanks bud
unless you're doing high overclocking, it won't matter that much. Cooler is better, but they'll mostly all be adequate
so then you're just looking at price
Because personal reasons lmao
Lmaooooooo
vertical gpu 🤔
White 011 dynamic gang rise up
Vertical gpu ftw
#archive-battlestations for those spicy builds pls 🔥
Just for future reference 👍
I think we’re now good friends because of obvious reasons @craggy bear
Yes 100%
Perfect lol
I know I should get Corsair fans for my case but I have 2 nzxt AER rgb 2s from my old build that I don’t want going to waste lmao
why should you get corsair fans
Cuz of the Corsair LL120 that are on the rad @crimson scroll
I was worried about the rad air being grabbed from the case but if I get an intake right above it I should be fine right lol
I’m not too worried about thermals tbh just as long as it doesn’t die
ideally you pull in cold air from outside the case
Same as u can see
I rather have +2 degrees than a ugly boi
I’ll have the AER rgb ones on the bottom for exhaust as the rgb is one sided
Get regular fans for the top to draw air in front the top
Hopefully wirh air coming form the top that’s the air the fans on the rad will grab at least the top one will
Overall I think it should be ok
Go for it just say JK at the end
Jk
I promise I won’t bully you cuz I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed if you catch my drift
I kinda want to buy that wireless Logitech keyboard to replace my steelseries
It has this really annoying thing, lemme get a pic
The A is somehow lighter than the rest, same colors set in the software
But jk guys
It’s all set to the light blue color
Lmaoo used my advice
But the a is like
That’s weird bro
no
I am green like the grass that the factory that made the keyboard ruined
The A is protesting
Dumb A
Ya who cares if some grass dies I just wanna have a disco at my fingertips
I hope the Q W S and the Z gang up on the A
Ya bully that A
Hell ye
Imagine caring about the environment dumb A
Let me RGB just cuz there’s green in that doesn’t mean I want you to stay green
I hate the keys
Also there’s function keys on the left side so when you normally go to put your fingers on the wasd you usually end up on the function keys
Wot
I tried it at a convention and hated it
It’s soooo expensive too
Left side has these profile keys
I had to make sure I didn’t press them when I tried the board out at the convention
Also the keys feel awful they are like flat keys and the click I just didn’t enjoy
There almost felt like there was no resistance on the key strokes it just felt wrong it screamed gamer no no
Overall I just didn’t like the board review over
Can you compare the switches to anything?
Imagine switches with no resistance spray some WD-40 on there and add keyclicksoundeffect.mp4 Every time you pressed it
Jk it just didn’t have the amount of resistance I like in my keys
The keys from what I remember also felt rather unstable like you could press down the corner of a key but the opposite corner wouldn’t move
I I tried it back in October but I’m trying my best to remember everything I can about it
I just remember them sometimes being unstable on a click
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gChg9G any pointers?
taken most of the advice but i cant find any issues concerning the airflow of the case so :/
Nah looks good but you should get a different case
Any suggestions?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DbKYx6
(Case can be switched, I just put it in the list temporarily)
why 2700x
the price you have there, you can get a 3700
a400 sucks, it uses the s11 controller. you can do better, look at the wd blue, mx500, su800, crucial p1, etc
also that monitor is overpriced, 450 can get you the super nice IPS 1440p 144hz LG
Yep, the monitors price is 2x bigger than it was yesterday
can anyone recommend any budget monitors under $150
you’re using budget wrong
you said any budget monitors under $150
thats saying your budget and asking for budget monitors

thats saying your budget and asking for budget monitors
@elfin zealot uhh yeah
my budget is $150 anyone know of any good monitors under that price
I know a good one of around $180
as in budget not in your budget, when people say budget they mean cheap
Budget doesn't mean cheap. Budget means anything up to a certain amount of money you're willing to spend
Budget doesn't mean cheap. Budget means anything up to a certain amount of money you're willing to spend
@static pecan finally
You could have a budget of $5000 but that's still a budget. People online have just taken the term "budget" to always mean cheap when that isn't true
i wouldn’t worded it “anyone know any good monitors in a budget of $150” how you worded it it sounded like you were using budget as cheap
alr
Hey folks. Any recommendation for a decent thin bezeled monitor for portrait mode?
ok guys you got any good b450 motherboards?
make sure to ping me.
b450 tomahawk/max @noble oak is a good ATX choice
thats too expensive
they go on sale for around 115
105 for the non max
there's the b450m pro4 i guess
or the aorus M
@crimson scroll you got a link for a non max?
not one that's not overpriced
so wdym?
ohh
their prices are very inflated right now for any retailer that has them in stock
occasionally they get restocked for more reasonable prices
thats the aorus m, yeah
so will this one work?
Unless you're buying a B450 that's been sitting on a shelf for 6 months you shouldn't have a problem
If you’re getting second or third gen Ryzen the majority of the b450s shouldn’t need a bios update.
First gen too
They should say if they’re 2nd/3rd gen ready
Tomahawk is a solid board
Probably best price to performance board. Great features for the price
Tomahawk does NOT come with WiFi and Bluetooth in it so you have to buy a WiFi card.
In that note, anyone got a good WiFi card?
tp link ac1200 is a decent one, if you want higher end look at some of the asus triple antennas
Thanks
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/z9cRcq final outcome. opinions?
maybe go with a 5 3600
i dont really do anything cpu intensive so i dont really see why
i guess i could go with a cheaper mobo thinking about it
i guess i could go with a cheaper mobo thinking about it
@wicked river I use the TOMAHAWK MAX, Its a solid board
Only issue may be no wifi or bluetooth
Used it in multiple builds
oh and please don't cheap out on a mobo
thanks
how do you get bluetooth on your pc then
am i doing it right?
😫
perfect
how do you get bluetooth on your pc then
@wicked river You could buy an adapter i will link and example off amazon just now
Not too sure what the ruling is when it comes to links
https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-PC,Techkey-Computer-Wireless-Headphones/dp/B085LB5Y8M/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=X2PUJS3PTX11&dchild=1&keywords=bluetooth+adapter+for+pc&qid=1595429839&sprefix=bluetooth+ada%2Caps%2C377&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyUlFEVTlSUjRHNk9CJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDUyMzk5M09EQjFMOE1OSjQ2WCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTY0MTMzS0lNR1I4WFVCNjlSJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
Something like this, I am not recommending this one specific but it should give you an idea.
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Bluetooth-Wireless-Browsing-Streaming/dp/B084JPFKQ5/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=bluetooth+pcie&qid=1595429923&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExSzhZSVhCSFBTOVBWJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzkxNjQ1M09INDdIM0k3QllWSSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUExMDMzODY0MVVSTlpNOVFWRE00QiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
This above product should give you both wifi and bluetooth takes up one of the pcie lanes
Again not recommending these specifically
thanks
np
@unborn kiln "5. No linking or advertising of content which you/your associates would profit off , ex. money, credits, community growth, donations or similar."
Your fine with linking regular links
If the link gets deleted by automod. I'll take a look and post if it's appropriate to the conversation and safe. 😅
Good guy wayfinder : D
is it 100% necessary to create a backup if im building a new pc or can I just redownload everything to keep it organized
def not neccesary
its backup
ok
cause i have a laptop rn and the files are just scattered everywhere so i dont wanna go through the trouble
yeah
if i were
u id get any thing important on to a external hdd
and start fresh
but keep it organized this time
i cant think of anything important. i dont keep photos on it and school work is all on the cloud so
then u should be fine
games are saved on steam and such
just make sure
u remember all ur passwords
gmail etc
yee
k
then u should be good to go
ight
thanks for help
You could copy game files over to avoid having to reinstall but other than that if there's nothing on your laptop you aren't prepared to lose then it's not necessary
@wicked river I use the TOMAHAWK MAX, Its a solid board
Only issue may be no wifi or bluetooth
Used it in multiple builds
@unborn kiln what do you mean may not be
I am confused what do you mean?
like why might it not have wifi or bluetooth
it has an ethernet port
idk im new to this stuff
It doesn't have WiFi (wireless network) or Bluetooth
Sorry if I was unclear
It does have an ethernet port
So you can have wired ethernet but no WiFi
If you want WiFi or Bluetooth you need adaptors I did link some above 👍
alr thanks
not your fault im just really inexperience with pc building and stuff like that
No problem
Please feel free to hmu if you have any other questions
I am sure I could help, if not, at least point you in the right direction
👍
@unborn kiln what WiFi card did you use?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ any opinions by the way?
Hey
I don't use a WiFi card got an ethernet cable
oh alrighht
The pc part picker list is blank for some reason
👍
there you go.
Only think im missing is my wifi card, I've found some good ones but it looks hard to install, and are at least 2 years old so I don't know how good they are anymore.
Looks good maybe consider an NVMe?
Also check out the phanteks cases
P400a for example
Other than that I don't really have much to add
Only think im missing is my wifi card, I've found some good ones but it looks hard to install, and are at least 2 years old so I don't know how good they are anymore.
@noble oak
Send a pic if possible
Feel free to DM me👍
Oh thanks! Alright I sure will
setup ideas?
?
why 2700x
already own it?
also, sn550>wd blue for like a dollar or two more, same size
i need some stuff for my gaming set up
looks...fine other than that? matx mobo in a atx case but w/e
2700x because the cooler and better than normal 2700
but why not 3700 or 3600
should i maybe upgrade the gpu?
mouse bungees are cool yeah, can help with cable drag
can also consider paracording your mouse or getting a wireless one
also the X series are pretty much never worth it over the regular
you can OC them to be pretty close
XT if you're an enthusiast going for overclocking records or something, sure
you can get it for like $25-30 on r/hws
or...just get a better cooler
arctic freezer 34 duo for example
but yeah, i wouldn't buy a zen+ processor over a zen2 unless the price is really good
ok
for 232...nah. you can get used 3700x for like 250 or less
should my pc stand on carpet or desk?
if you do wanna put it on the floor atleast put like something under it so the carpet doesnt get into your psu
or just get some cardboard and stack it so your pc is off the floor
true
i put a wooden plank under my pc because i have carpet
@wide shore what are you doing with your pc
just gaming
or other production stuff
go 3700x over 3600 then
the 2060 ko will help over a regular 2060 as well
AIO is fine, air coolers are fine
they have their benefits and cons
you mean case fans?
and more expensive
240 and 280
280 is larger so it's better, for the same fan and pump design
whether your case supports it is another issue
do you guys recommend some gaming desks?
i wouldn't pick the h510 if you're worried about airflow. it does fine, it's just not the best
look at the p300a for something that is around that price range and has good airflow
alright
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsMNu0gWlZw i recommend this video
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Should i get one of those
what are some good case fans?
arctic p/f12 are good budget fans
noctua is high end airflow/cooling/noise, looks being subjective
if you like rgb, thermaltake riing, nzxt aer 2, or corsair QL/LL fans are the big name brands, uphere for cheaper, still good rgb fans
@noble oak it works fine. without any serious OCing it'll work. wouldn't say it's good, just adequate
great
my 2600 with wraith stealth gets up to 80c in games
so, not good. but perfectly adequate
ohhhh ok
if it feels like it's taking a long time just let it go
you can brick your system by interrupting it
eh i do
and my complaint about the kraken still stands
wdym
if you're going liquid, the EK 240/360 aio and liquid freezer II 280/360 are better
you got a link?
just search for them in the pcpp list
or google
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you can turn off the rgb if you want, but if you don't like it then you don't like it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
the other one i mentioned you should watch r/buildapcsales for it to come back into stock
theres nothing u could tell me
You're welcome guys
fake
I've never heard of that aio
it looks kinda ugly imo
Can anyone recommend a good hard drive for a affordable price?
Thank you x
ping me if you answer
@ashen tusk
Just stick with western digital. Cheaper the Seagate and you don't sacrifice much, if anything..
thank you, i will check it out
No problem
Solid deal, got one in my pc
nice
isn't a 2tb seagate barracuda like $80?
150 is a little high
Sorry i am in South Africa
150 is indeed a little high for a 2 tb hdd
We get them here at around 50 dollars
that's a solid deal
Where are you looking? @ashen tusk
im from denmark, idk what 900 krones is in dollars
i just guessed
IPcam-shop.dk - Specialister i overvågning - Dansk support & vejledning - E-mærket - I top på Trustpilot
danish webside tho
still $120 is a bit much
that's a solid deal
@clear jacinth Bought one second hand for something like 20$
While not recommended it was cheap😂
loool
140.34usd
wait
Wd purple is a cctv surveillance built for 24 hour use
its not 140
Wd purple is a cctv surveillance built for 24 hour use
@unborn kiln Look for "blue"
it's danish krones
oh shit yeah
not norwegian krones :p
The cctv hdds are way more expensive because they rated for 24 hour use
140 is way too expensive, surely wd have a retailer that sells for cheaper
@ashen tusk WD Blue is the one you want..
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-Internal-Drive-3-5-Inch/dp/B07H2RR55Q/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=31VACHQXLKU9Y&dchild=1&keywords=seagate+barracuda+2tb&qid=1595527740&sprefix=seagate+%2Caps%2C226&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFROEVSMEMwUTRYQzQmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAzNDQzMTAyVUxJMkFLTE1TTEVUJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3Nzk4NDIxTUNCWDdFUlhYN1MyJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ== Get this one instead @ashen tusk
@clear jacinth ok, i'm gonna wish it for christmas
👌
in the pc
perfect
In the pc please😅
you connect a sata cable to ur mobo and a sata power cable to ur psu
i found a danish webside, so i dont have to pay a whole lot for the shipping too
where they sell it ofc
Nice!
ye
amazing! 
Is AMD better than Intel CPUs?
Depends what for. AMD has all around better value and performance per dollar but Intel's highest end i7 and i9 CPUs can still pull out ahead of AMD chips in gaming. If you want to do anything besides just gaming like live streaming or video encoding then AMD is the way to go
Honestly though it's almost impossible for anyone to notice the FPS difference between an AMD and Intel CPUs in games since the GPU does most of the work
Is AMD better than Intel CPUs?
@hallow falcon intel for single thread amd for multithread
TheeDillllie was super nice and helped me out with getting a parts build. Would anyone wanna check it out?
so intel is better at single tasks amd is better at multitasking im pretty sure
yep, intel is better at single tasks and amd is better at multitasking
Is an rog Strix rx 570 8gb a good card
@hallow falcon sure post it
seems fine to me
you can get slightly cheaper ram and save like ten bucks lol
while still keeping the 3200mhz/cl16 combo
also that WD is kinda overpriced, you can get 2tb for the same price
ten bucks 😳
i mean
saving ten bucks is ten bucks, it's not like you're giving up shipping times or anything
could get a cheaper PSU too but ¯_(ツ)_/¯
the part selection is fine, they could just save some money, like 50-70 bucks probably
How/where could I get the 2tb for the same price?
And with that money I'd go to a nicer monitor, the 5700xt is overkill for 1920 144hz
You'd get a wd blue or Seagate compute for 50-60
Most people aren't gonna notice the difference between the blue and the black
Unless you have a special use case for this computer involving heavy video editing and transfer
In which case you'd want a second ssd anyways
Just Seagate branding
I'd look at 1440p 144hz, that would pair nicely with the 5700xt
well, i mean.. there isn't really a big difference to a 1440p monitor and a 1080p monitor imo
- they're more expensive
So would a Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive be best? It’s green but I don’t care about the color
It’s $54
It'll be fine yeah
How come the crucial P1 I have is like double the price?
Seagate does have worse reliability than wd according to backblaze, so go wd if you're worried
Because that's an nvme ssd and these are hard drives
But the hard drives are still put inside the pc like the ssd? What are the differences between an nvme ssd and a hard drive.
Yes
You put internal hard drives inside
A hard drive uses a head to read/write magnetic disks
An ssd has no moving parts, it's all flash storage, kind of like a USB stick
There are different kinds of SSDs. 2.5 inch and m.2 2280 refer to physical dimensions
Sata and nvme refer to protocols
Nvme drives will be m.2 but not all m.2 drives are nvme
Sata has slower read/write but for most people, you won't take advantage of the speeds of nvme
However, the price gap is small enough that you might as well get the faster drive. New games may start to make use of that speed anyways, and there are less cables to manage with an M.2 drive
for a budget build, yes
@clear jacinth ffs budget is an amount of money you can spend not cheap
There's no reason to be rude, just keep it civil 😅
it's used to mean cheaper though
@crimson scroll well thats the wrong definition
doesn't matter. it's entered the common lexicon
just please use budget properly
there are plenty of words that aren't "used correctly" but we all get what it means
doesn't matter. it's entered the common lexicon
@crimson scroll if you want to mean cheaper just use cheaper because budget is completely different
i'm not gonna keep arguing with you
but i understood what he meant and i have no issue with him using it
Let's not argue over it.
just use cheaper not budget that’s all i ask
Idk if this falls under this category but
Forgive me please
dont do this to ur pc btw
The water gives more FPS ingame
hey there could anyone help me out with this build
anyhting i could add/ improve/ save money on
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@ivory coral
haha Sorry james!
it depends if you are happy or wish to save and upgrade, depends if it can run games or whatever you use your pc for that you are happy with
I guess i will get a pc
should put what currency as well 😛
O
nvm i think that’s the wrong link
K
nvm it’s the right
you can likely reuse your currently HD unless you gonna give that pc to a family member to save some costs
i got that from arkis server
i know nothing about intel
ok
but amd is multithread not single so you can multitask
thx
@nova bough I'd recommend an R5 3600 and any kind of ATX B450 board that has good VRM cooling and is cheap. For a GPU I'd go with either an RX5600 or GTX 1660TI, 16GB of DDR4 RAM that's at least 3000mhz or higher (AMD CPUs like fast ram), at least an 80+ Gold rated PSU that's at least 200 watts above what PCPartPicker says all of the components will draw, and whatever cheap ATX case that has the features you want and good cooling
OK
Uh