#💻-building-a-pc

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crimson scroll
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it's noise normalized at 35dba

clear jacinth
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ohh

crimson scroll
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a 3950x is more than he has on his list anyways

clear jacinth
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I mean 60 c isn’t bad at all

crimson scroll
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but performance will translate over in the same way

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also that's delta, not absolute temp

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so it's 60c + whatever ambient is in their testing, which is 21

clear jacinth
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oh so 81

crimson scroll
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that means the corsair a500 is absolute garbage compared to the others

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because of its coldplate levelness

clear jacinth
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yep

crimson scroll
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that's an air cooler btw

clear jacinth
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oh lol

crimson scroll
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anyways, there are no lower tier cpus tested here, only intel hedt and amd hedt

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reason being you don't generate enough heat to really warrant the AIO with the other chips

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so price/performance it makes sense to go air

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but like you said, potentially less maintenance, and aesthetics are up to the user

noble oak
crimson scroll
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no

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pcpp already tells you what the warnings are for

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read them

noble oak
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oh right

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i got it solved already

crimson scroll
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and i already said

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for the dimensions

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go to the manufacturer websites

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and check what maximum gpu/cpu cooler size they support

noble oak
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wdym

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k then

lucid wigeon
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the usb c port on the case won't work which might be a downside

noble oak
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this is what i see

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when i open the con trol pannel

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..

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nothing else

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and i am worried

wind night
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@clear jacinth but ye i have the Acer Predator prebuild from a year or 5 ago

clear jacinth
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I have a sharkoon prebuilt, gt 1030, amd a8-9600 4 cores 8 threads, 370 euro’s...

wind night
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I7 4790(ish) and an AMD graphics card. But now replaced it with a GTX 1060 and put in a new 1tb ssd

clear jacinth
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oh and did I mention the ddr3 ram

lucid wigeon
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does look like a hardware issue, unlikely its hardware @noble oak

clear jacinth
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8 gb

lucid wigeon
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predators are good

wind night
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Ye but my next pc will be a custom build

clear jacinth
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same

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r7 3700x, 2060 super

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probably

wind night
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Realisticly i would just need a new processor motherboard and ram

lucid wigeon
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water cooling is good but meh, would rather not risk mucho expensive hardware

wind night
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As i still have a gtx 1060 which should be fine for a while

clear jacinth
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well my pc is kinda out of date

lucid wigeon
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1060 is solid, runs all games

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all pcs get outdated eventually

wind night
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Ik runs games but thats about it

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It

clear jacinth
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mines been out of date for a few years 👀

wind night
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I play destiny on medium graphics and hit 60fps

clear jacinth
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I play roblox and I get lag

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feelsbadman

wind night
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Oof

clear jacinth
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literally

noble oak
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i have water cooling as wel

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l

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but it doesent work without the nvidia control pannel

clear jacinth
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no it can run minecraft and valorant so I’m ok with it

lucid wigeon
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yikes, although fps does depend on exterior factors i.e. monitor refresh rate

noble oak
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you guys talkign about prebuildts?

clear jacinth
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I have a 24” 4ms 60hz monitor from acer

noble oak
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i have a laptop

clear jacinth
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not sure which model because I’m on my phone in bed rn

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I don’t have a laptop

noble oak
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acer nitro 5

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the intel one

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with the i5-8300h

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ang the gtx 1050 ti

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4 gigs of ram

clear jacinth
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4 gb?

lucid wigeon
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@noble oak make sure your card is being picked up by the system, press win key + r and type "devmgmt.msc", then look at "display adaptors"

noble oak
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and 256gb of mechanical drive

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😦

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big sad

clear jacinth
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it wasn’t terrible untill I saw the amount of ram lol

lucid wigeon
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you could prob upgrade the ram if need be

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or expand it

clear jacinth
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I mean laptops are quite hard to upgrade something in the system

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sorry my english isn’t good it’s 4 am

lucid wigeon
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all good

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but its on the contrary with acers

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acer predators have doors on the bottom of the system that makes it insanely easy to access

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possibly easier than upgrading a tower

clear jacinth
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wait that isn’t possible

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or is it..

lucid wigeon
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left is ssd/hdd i guess although that's a singular bay

clear jacinth
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oh wow

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top right is ram i’d think

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it looks like it atleast

lucid wigeon
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yeah seeing as it has two sticks in already, lmfao

noble oak
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ye charlie its all good

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idk why is the nvidia control pannel bad

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and i need help with that

lucid wigeon
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good thing is control panel isn't essential, shouldn't provide any performance issues

clear jacinth
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I don’t think I used it once lol

lucid wigeon
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it's important for multi monitor config

noble oak
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yes

clear jacinth
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I don’t have multiple monitors so 🤷

noble oak
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o

lucid wigeon
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yeah thats fair

noble oak
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O

clear jacinth
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alrighty, logging off for today, goodnight everyone

lucid wigeon
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gnite

storm umbra
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Gn m8

noble oak
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anybody know any good but CHEAP 244hz montiors?

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pls ping me

finite plank
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What’s a mid to high end mother board? Planning on getting 2080 super, ryz7 3700x

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B550 any good?

noble oak
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@finite plank try this one Asus AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus

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its good but not breaking the 200 bucks

noble oak
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I’m about to buy a Asus Rog Strix 2070 Super mainly for COD, Minecraft, and maybe fortnite. Any opinions on it?

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(Ping me if you do)

charred yoke
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What brands have the best budget ddr 3 memory?

green gale
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@charred yoke honestly not sure but I can tell you that you can find ddr4 memory for only a few bucks more

storm umbra
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Corsair and Team Group has good DDR3

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Its $50 for 16gb

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But as Ex said, if you can get DDR4 and have a compatible motherboard, I’d say go with DDR4.

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It’s worth it

clear jacinth
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corsair vengeance lpx is around $60 in my country :p (16gb 3200 mhz)

finite plank
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ty @noble oak

humble oar
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@finite plank i'm getting most of the same parts as you (2070 super tho, because i don't have $750 to spend on a GPU) and i'm getting the Asus TUF X570-Plus, like uhh "Jesus Christ" said lol

static pecan
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@humble oar if you're getting a 2070s why not get a 5700xt? It's $100 cheaper and matches or beats the 2070 super in every benchmark

vague birch
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Im looking for a good 1080 gpu that wont cost Alot of money

humble oar
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@static pecan my plan is to have 2070 super until i make enough money to swap to 2080ti

static pecan
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Then you could put that $100 you'd save with a 5700XT towards the 2080TI lol

lucid sandal
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the 5700XT is cheaper

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nearly the same

static pecan
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You can find a triple fan 5700XT for under $400 from XFX meanwhile the cheapest 2070 super is $500 or more for a dual fan

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And in basically every game the two cards are within 5-10 FPS of one another which you'll never be able to actually notice when gaming

crimson scroll
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some people don't want to deal with driver issues

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personally i would also pick the 5700xt

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but a lot of people have had a lot of issues, even with the newest driver fixes

clear jacinth
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I'm getting a 2060s over a 5700xt because I wanna use raytracing in some games (forza horizon 4 and some other games)

static pecan
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The driver issues are apparently mostly based on what card you get. According to the reviews I've read of the XFX card no one has has reported having driver issues using that particular card

clear jacinth
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I've never had issues with my geforce drivers :p

lucid wigeon
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amd cards are known to be buggy sometimes

clear jacinth
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amd cards are great for budget builds though

static pecan
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Based on all the issues I've had with drivers and software with the 1650 that's in my laptop rn I'm never buying another Nvidia card lmao

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Plus the 1650 died on me 7 months after buying the laptop and I had to send it off to be repaired

clear jacinth
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do you know how it died?

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or just outta nowhere

static pecan
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I'm one of the unlucky hundreds or thousands of people that get an Nivida card that literally can just stop wanting to output a video signal

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I did some research and apparently this issue goes back to at least the 950 and all the way up to the 2080TI. Sometimes the card will just stop outputting a signal out of nowhere even if you don't mess with any ports or wiring

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My card died in the middle of a game lol

clear jacinth
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oof

static pecan
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There's hundreds of posts about the issue on the Nvidia forums

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But on top of that I've had so many issues with Shadowplay refusing to work despite multiple reinstalls of both GeForce Experience and the drivers themselves, I've had problems with the drivers making pretty much all of my games crash, and just a bunch of little issues and inconveniences that have amounted to me absolutely hating this card

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My old RX460 has never had this many issues. In fact, I've never really had any issues with it at all + that card is OCd and still going strong after 4 years of pretty heavy use

noble oak
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Building a PC right now and I’m looking at GPU’s I’m planning on getting a Asus rog strix 2070 super, anyone have a review on that?

clear jacinth
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it's good if u want to use raytracing in 1080p/1440p and maybe 4k, but if you don't want to use it you can better go with a rx 5700 xt

static pecan
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It basically comes down to this: Is Raytracing worth an extra $100 to you? @noble oak

noble oak
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Yea, I’m trying to get a decent gaming experience but not spend too much money. I’m planning on getting the $439.99 instead of the $539.99 super overclocking.

clear jacinth
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what cpu are you gonna pair it with if I may ask?

static pecan
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If Raytracing isn't important to you you can grab a triple fan XFX 5700XT for $379 on Newegg

noble oak
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Ryzen 5 3600x.

clear jacinth
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good choice

static pecan
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And get the same FPS as a 2070 Super but $100 less

noble oak
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I would get an i7 but it’s just too expensive right now.

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Alan I will look more into that graphics card, always trying to save money.

crimson scroll
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i5 10600k is the most you need for gaming anyways

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overclocks to stock 10900k performance

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you'll only care about frames past that if you're a professional player

scarlet berry
clear jacinth
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that looks sick

scarlet berry
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Ikr

thorn escarp
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Looks cute

scarlet berry
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I9 9900k
RTX 2080ti
32gb ddr4 ram
ASUS prime z390A
COUGAR CONQUER 2 atx full tower
Soo many rgb

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For that^

static pecan
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But how much tho? lmao

scarlet berry
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I’ve bought

I9 9900k

32gb ddr4 ram
ASUS prime z390A
COUGAR CONQUER 2 atx full tower

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Currently at 2370

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CAD

static pecan
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Holy $hit that's a bit over $1700 US lol

scarlet berry
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Gpu is 1900 cad

clear jacinth
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why aren't you going full out and get a 10900k :p

humble oar
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i personally want RTX with my GPU, which is why i'm getting the 2070 super

void pewter
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I have the 2070 super and LOVE it

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its great, and cheaper than the 2080

median rivet
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I'm gonna be picking up a 3080 I reckon when they drop

scarlet berry
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RTX Titan or 2080Ti?

median rivet
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The 2080Ti is better purely because of the money you save

scarlet berry
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money isn’t an issue

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why aren't you going full out and get a 10900k :p
@clear jacinth I would but I forgot it existed until after I bought the 9900k

median rivet
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Well then Titan all the way, but Nvidia is expected to release a new line in September so you could wait

noble oak
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Asus AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) ATX ay this comes with a wifi anttena or no?

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ping to tell me

elfin zealot
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@noble oak yes its in the name

noble oak
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thanks chickens man

elfin zealot
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it litterally has wifi in the name

humble oar
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don't be a bully dude, some of us are almost illiterate with how not smart we are

crimson scroll
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it can be exasperating and frustrating sometimes with how simple it is, but yeah, everybody makes mistakes sometimes. I've missed stuff in product titles before

scarlet berry
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@median rivet is there any expected specs for them?

median rivet
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You could probably find something online, but they're meant to be a hell of a lot better than current 20 series according to what I read a few months ago

scarlet berry
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It feels like we are at the point where it just can’t get better

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Like the 20 series is phenomenal

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I can’t imagine how it gets better

median rivet
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I swear I read that they're like 20% faster or something but I could be wrong

scarlet berry
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hm

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Might just buy the Titan and then see how it goes

noble oak
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What are some good SSD cards?

calm musk
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m.2?

scarlet berry
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Ok decided against rtx Titan and I think I’m going to go with SLI 2080 ti

storm umbra
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Spicy

clear jacinth
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bruh

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sli 2080ti?

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dang

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that’s just one way to flex :p

lucid wigeon
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you will not get a performance boost in most games and is a waste of money

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may even impact your performance

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sli is meant for two mid range gpus to perform like a high end gpu

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and then the performance boost is usually around 20% for double the price

clear jacinth
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  • not every game supports SLI
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or amd’s crossfire

lucid wigeon
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exactly, it’s actually pretty rare to find a game that supports it

static pecan
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SLI and CrossFire are both pretty much dead at this point. Nvidia only supports it in the 2080 and up (I think) and even then most games don't use it and for most people (unless you're working in 3D modeling software or something every day) don't see a performance increase. Of course, if you just have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket you can buy two GPUs and use one for running games and one as a dedicated video encoder for OBS or something if you stream a lot.

clear jacinth
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I've seen setups with a 1650 super sli

proper crown
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What's the point of doing that

clear jacinth
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well for streaming for example

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or people just wanna spend a load of money

static pecan
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Nvidia doesn't officially support SLI on anything lower than a 2080, but people have of course found ways around that to unofficially support it on lower-tier cards

clear jacinth
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not sure if this is the correct channel to ask this, but are red or brown switches smoother? wanna buy the apex 7 tkl but i'm not sure yet if im gonna get the reds or browns

pallid plinth
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Browns are tactile and relitively quiet, linears dont have any feedback. It's abot ho you want it to feel, not sound.

clear jacinth
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well I asked about the smoothness, not the sound

static pecan
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To me browns feel better because they give that little bit of tactile feel without being loud and stiff like blues. Reds just feel too mushy for me to be comfortable typing with

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Honestly it really is just personal preference though and if we were still in 2019 I'd say go out to a Best Buy or other tech store that has keyboards on display for you try out so you can see what feel you like the best, but that's not possible right now

clear jacinth
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here it is, the netherlands. we don't even need to wear masks out in public, unless we travel by train or buss

pallid plinth
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tl;dr- reds dont have feedback, browns are tactile and quiet, and blues are tactile and loud

static pecan
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Oh ya I sometimes forget other countries are actually living normally and don't have an exponential increase in the virus like us in the U.S. lmao

clear jacinth
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:p

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Trump isn't doing very much about it is he?

static pecan
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If you can go to a shop and try out different keyboards then definitely do that

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Here in the "Greatest country in the world" the very existence of the virus has turned into a political opinion

clear jacinth
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bruh

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we had to stay at home for 2 months and now we don't have that many cases over here

static pecan
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Apparently New Zealand is completely COVID free now

low vigil
candid tangle
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those fans do be spinning

low vigil
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Does this mean my computer has 4 fans

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Fractal design meshify dark tg has
*Two pre-installed Fractal Design Dynamic X2 GP-12 120 mm fans

median rivet
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It's a cpu fan and 3 case fans

low vigil
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And I bought Corsair ML140 pro

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Is this from the towers stock fan

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They built the pc for me

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It says the case follows with 2 ok. Then I bought one ml140 ok that's 3. Now when I look inside the pc I see 4 fans. 2 on top, 1 front and 1 rear. And now this extra fan in my hand

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That makes it 5

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Can someone who's not stupid like me explain how this makes sense

median rivet
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What cpu cooler do you have?

low vigil
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@median rivet Corsair hydro h100i pro RGB

median rivet
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There's 2 more fans for ya

low vigil
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Lol how

median rivet
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2 on the rad, 2 by default in case, 1 ML140 and the bonus one wouldn't fit

low vigil
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Oh the CPU coolers are the 2 fans on the top right @median rivet

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Cus the blades are white

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That's how I recognize

median rivet
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Yeah I reckon so

low vigil
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So it's actually one front and one back

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And I assume they removed one stock

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Since that's the one I have in my hand

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And the replaced it with the ml140

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Correct? @median rivet

median rivet
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Yeah

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I think

low vigil
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This is the fan on the front

median rivet
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That'll be the ml140

low vigil
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Noicee

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Now this puzzle makes sense

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I've been thinking about this for a year

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And the one on the back is the case default fan

median rivet
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Yeah should be

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They swapped out the one at the front with the ml140 so they just gave you the default one (that they took out) as a spare

low vigil
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dynamic x2 gp-12

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Yee

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Thia friend who helped me pick the parts said it would be better to have that

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Over the stock

median rivet
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No clue, not much of a fan man me

low vigil
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How can a 140mm fan fit in a 120mm fan slot

fiery crescent
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There's always google

low vigil
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Why you bully me

fiery crescent
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Because idk

low vigil
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Please

fiery crescent
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No what I mean is I don't know

low vigil
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Should you generally leave more space at the front or back of the case. The place is kinda closed

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Should the intake have more space or the exhale

fiery crescent
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I don't know much about pcs

low vigil
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What do you know much about @fiery crescent

noble oak
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Ok, is the Nvidia Rtx 2060 Super any good? I watched a lot of game plays and reviews and they all said it's ok for its price. Any opinions?

low vigil
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The most priceworthy graphics cards by Nvidia right now

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It's suuuuper

fiery crescent
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I know somewhat about periphs

hallow falcon
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Can anyone help me find a good motherboard? I really want a MSI B450 Gaming Plus but I can’t find any on NewEgg

noble oak
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Ay dude I found one on new egg. Tell me if this is yours 🙂

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@hallow falcon

hallow falcon
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That might be it... I know very little about building, I’m thinking on just using this as a mode

wicked river
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what mobo should i get with a 1660 super and a ryzen 5 3600?

clear jacinth
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b450

wicked river
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b450 or 550?

clear jacinth
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or b550 if you want to upgrade later down the line

wicked river
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thanks

median rivet
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Not quite a rog strix

wicked river
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huh

lusty palm
clear jacinth
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looks good

lusty palm
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should i change something

clear jacinth
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not really i'd say

lusty palm
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you think it can run games more than 100 fps

clear jacinth
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yeah

lusty palm
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okay

clear jacinth
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depends on what games though

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what will you be playing?

lusty palm
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i want to play valorant and warzone

clear jacinth
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oh def 100+ fps

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valorant maybe 200

lusty palm
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okay thanks

clear jacinth
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np

lusty palm
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cya

low vigil
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Is valorant actually fun to play

clear jacinth
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yes

low vigil
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It seemed interesting until u could kill 5 people with one knife throw

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That's just lame

lusty palm
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Knife throw???

clear jacinth
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it's Jett's ultimate

low vigil
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Ye

lusty palm
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Ooh yea

static pecan
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@lusty palm You could save some money by going with G Skill Trident Z RGB for $87. It's 3200mhz with a CAS of 16 which will actually perform a bit better than the CAS 18 Vengeance you have now. You can also save an additional $120 by going with the XFX Rx5700XT for $380 instead of a 2070 Super. You get the same FPS in games, and since you aren't playing anything that has Raytracing there's really no reason to spend an extra $100 just for an Nvidia card

low vigil
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I don't like that stuff how is that fair

lusty palm
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Its a ultimate

clear jacinth
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  • 5 people should be perfectly a lined
lusty palm
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You need to get kills for it

clear jacinth
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  • collect ult orbs
lusty palm
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Or per round one point

wicked river
crimson scroll
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might as well get a sn550 for the same price as that wd blue

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also i have no idea on that case, and you can get cheaper ram that's not rgb, but it's perfectly adequate and fairly priced. seems like a decent list other than those nitpicks

wicked river
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thanks

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i like the look of the case because i prefer it to perhaps the nzxt h510

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so yeah

crimson scroll
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that's fine, if you like rgb and want to spend extra you can go for the p400a if you can find it in stock

clear jacinth
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idk about the airflow of that case though

crimson scroll
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i don't see a ton of ventilation on the case you picked

wicked river
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ok

clear jacinth
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maybe get something like the Corsair Carbide 275R

clear jacinth
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no

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wait

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forgot the word airflow :p

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I believe it comes with either 2 or 3 fans already

wicked river
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thanks

clear jacinth
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np

wicked river
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what is the benifit of 3600 speed ram to 3200 speed?

clear jacinth
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it's basically faster

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not much though, but if you're going with ryzen i'd suggest getting 3200 mhz

wicked river
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ok

crimson scroll
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well

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speed isn't everything

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you need to watch out for latency too

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3200 cl16 is roughly equivalent to 3600 cl18

wicked river
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and also whats the diffrence between a modular and non modular psu 😅

crimson scroll
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ram can get kinda complicated, like not going over 3733mhz for ryzen infinity fabric

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modular means no cables come preattached

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the psu will come with a bunch and you plug in what you need

wicked river
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3200 cl16 is roughly equivalent to 3600 cl18
@crimson scroll ok thanks

crimson scroll
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semimodular means the 24 pin and 8 pin connectors are fixed on the psu, you can attach peripheral/sata/pcie cables as you need

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nonmodular means every cable is fixed on the psu

wicked river
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so modular means you only use the connections you need

crimson scroll
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modular can give a cleaner look and is easier to cable manage, but semimodular is usually cheaper, and only has what you need anyways, since you absolutely need the 24pin and 8pin cpu

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and yeah that's correct

wicked river
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👍

crimson scroll
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also

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when we're talking about ram speeds like 3200, 3600, etc

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those aren't stock speeds, those are factory rated overclocks

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you have to enable XMP otherwise you'll probably be running at 2400 or 2666

wicked river
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oh

crimson scroll
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most ram kits will work with most motherboards, but to be safe you should check motherboard QVL lists to make sure

noble oak
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Hey I got a question, when picking your parts from PC Part Picker does it also mean your parts are compatible?

crimson scroll
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the good thing is xmp is very simple if you don't wanna mess around

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@noble oak yes, it might give you some warnings if it can't check clearances/bios

wicked river
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im looking at the b450 tomahawk max

noble oak
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K thanks

crimson scroll
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if you select a r5 3600 for example it'll display motherboards that are compatible

golden hamlet
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i was using teamgroup tforce which i guess is like great value PepeLaugh

crimson scroll
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it's pretty good, same with oloy

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it's not as name brand in the US yet despite being pretty reputable

golden hamlet
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but i installed the new two, and my monitors wouldn't connect at all, then went back to old ram and still not connect to monitors. took like 5 hours of tinkering to get it to work.

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now i got corsair vengeance to install tonight.

crimson scroll
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did you figure out the problem

clear jacinth
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oooh nice

golden hamlet
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nope. sadly not.

clear jacinth
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corsair vengeance

golden hamlet
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we think the start of the issue is two sticks of ram was 3200 and other two were 3000

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so it may have messed up bios

crimson scroll
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it should just lower the speeds to the slower kit but maybe

golden hamlet
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Yeah thats what everyone said, but like it wouldn't allow me to go into bios or anything. Monitors wouldn't connect but PC was running

crimson scroll
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did you try clearing cmos

golden hamlet
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thats the battery yes?

crimson scroll
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then xmp would probably reset and you'd have four sticks at stock

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yeah the watch battery

golden hamlet
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yes we did

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it took going down to 1 8g stick to get into bios then defaulting in bios

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but it took quite a bit of trial and error for such a simple process

crimson scroll
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sounds out of my pay grade haha, that's a good troubleshooting method to go down to one stick though ¯_(ツ)_/¯

golden hamlet
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Hopefully tonight is just plug and play 🤞

crimson scroll
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this is why i'm not gonna mess with mixing two different kits

golden hamlet
#

You know what they say, if I didn't have bad luck I wouldn't have any luck at all KEKLAUGH

crimson scroll
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although...can't really say i'm running my ram optimally either...only filling slots 2, 3, and 4 because i put my cooler on the wrong way and the little amd logo is blocking slot 1

golden hamlet
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rough :/ yeah i'm using 2&4. I didn't mean to buy different speeds, was an error by me. But I wasn't expecting anything like that to happen.

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Thankfully its all fixed for now.

fiery crescent
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Can I post sexy Iroh here?

elfin zealot
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no

noble oak
crimson scroll
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matx board in atx case mopiEw

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also like i told the other guy, sn550 is the same price as that wd blue, might as well get the better drive

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other than that, looks good

wet sequoia
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Day 1 of the new build is done gotta wait till I go back to my cottage to get the old parts out of my old pc

static pecan
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Hot

crimson scroll
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lian li o11 dynamic, nice

wet sequoia
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Ya I love the look of it had to get it for this build @crimson scroll

crimson scroll
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sucks that you don't have a 360 rad tho

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the 280 looks kinda funky

wet sequoia
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That’s a 240

crimson scroll
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i stand corrected

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no wonder it looked funky

wet sequoia
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Ya it’s the H100i platinum rgb SE

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I honestly don’t mind the look

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I still think it looks really nice

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I tried to evenly put it in the middle so it wasn’t tooo funky

crimson scroll
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what if

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put the rad at the bottom

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add another case fan on top

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wouldn't do much for thermals but would look cool

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or, since your gpu will be lower

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put the rad up top, add a fan on the bottom

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then you'd get more air to your gpu

wet sequoia
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I could do that but I have enough fans for 2 on the bottom 2 on the top and I’m lazy

crimson scroll
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fair

wet sequoia
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I think it looks great how it is I guess I’m just not super picky with it but I appreciate the suggestions

crimson scroll
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👍 if you like it thats what matters

wet sequoia
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I’ll definitely look into it. The build isn’t finished yet anyway I need to get some parts from my old build

storm umbra
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Any recommendations on a 240mm AIO? I’ve been looking at NZXT Kraken coolers but didn’t know if there was a better one out there.

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Or should I invest in a better CPU? I currently have a R5 2600. I know the AIO is for higher performing CPUs but didn’t know what I should do first

wet sequoia
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The krakens are pretty expensive but I’ve heard good things I was looking into an x63 cuz it wasn’t a bad price but I wanted a white build so I went with Corsair

crimson scroll
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liquid freezer II if you can find it msrp

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ek 240 aio also good

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those two are chart toppers for noise normalized performance

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the krakens are fine, just loud for same performance

storm umbra
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Ok

wet sequoia
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As for that I’d upgrade cpu first tbh the 2600 isn’t bad but go to say a ryzen 7 3700 and you’ll be doing way better off in the cpu department the ryzen 5 3600 is also a great cpu I loved it

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@crimson scroll definitely has more info on coolers than me cuz I’m still learning

storm umbra
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Thanks you guys

wet sequoia
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Np we’re all here to help each other

storm umbra
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I’ll look into those 👍

crimson scroll
wet sequoia
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I kinda went all out and just picked up a 3900x

crimson scroll
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i recommend gamersnexus a lot, good documented methodology and testing

wet sequoia
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I love the charts they have they show a lot of info

crimson scroll
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the 240 liquid II isn't on there but is very likely to be close to the ek 240, based on the 280 and 360 performances

wet sequoia
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Bro can you teach me your big brainedness on coolers I only know a little when it comes to the rest of the pc and even then I’m not super knowledgeable

crimson scroll
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i watch GN and spew out words verbatim

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only half kidding

wet sequoia
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I want to work as a pc builder one day so now I have 3 builds under me

crimson scroll
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the important parts are obviously price, performance, and noise

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and to some extent case compatibility

wet sequoia
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Lmaooo that was me with Linus back when I started learning

crimson scroll
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find reputable reviews on coolers and make decisions based on that

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note that you can't really compare reviews between different reviewers

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same as you can't compare TDP, CFM, etc between manufacturers

wet sequoia
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I should’ve done more research on the cooler but I don’t think the H100i is thaaat bad right mystery internet cooler guy

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Different reviewers with a different batch of product

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That’s why things can be very different between testers

crimson scroll
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yeah, the h100i seems fine

wet sequoia
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Or one person will get one faulty product and claim they are all bad

crimson scroll
#

the big thing is that these coolers are +/- 9 degrees of each other

craggy bear
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Canuck

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Love the pc

wet sequoia
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Thanks bud

crimson scroll
#

unless you're doing high overclocking, it won't matter that much. Cooler is better, but they'll mostly all be adequate

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so then you're just looking at price

craggy bear
wet sequoia
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Lmaooooooo

crimson scroll
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vertical gpu 🤔

wet sequoia
#

White 011 dynamic gang rise up

craggy bear
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Vertical gpu ftw

storm umbra
crimson scroll
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he posted there already but yeah

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should've just linked to that pic

storm umbra
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Just for future reference 👍

wet sequoia
#

I think we’re now good friends because of obvious reasons @craggy bear

craggy bear
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Yes 100%

wet sequoia
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Perfect lol

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I know I should get Corsair fans for my case but I have 2 nzxt AER rgb 2s from my old build that I don’t want going to waste lmao

crimson scroll
#

why should you get corsair fans

craggy bear
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You can sell em

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They are j u i c y

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they look amazing

wet sequoia
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Cuz of the Corsair LL120 that are on the rad @crimson scroll

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I was worried about the rad air being grabbed from the case but if I get an intake right above it I should be fine right lol

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I’m not too worried about thermals tbh just as long as it doesn’t die

crimson scroll
#

ideally you pull in cold air from outside the case

craggy bear
#

Same as u can see

crimson scroll
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for both your hottest components

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and exhaust that out after

craggy bear
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I rather have +2 degrees than a ugly boi

wet sequoia
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I’ll have the AER rgb ones on the bottom for exhaust as the rgb is one sided

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Get regular fans for the top to draw air in front the top

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Hopefully wirh air coming form the top that’s the air the fans on the rad will grab at least the top one will

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Overall I think it should be ok

craggy bear
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I wanna say something

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But I think then imma get bullied

wet sequoia
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Go for it just say JK at the end

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Jk

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I promise I won’t bully you cuz I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed if you catch my drift

craggy bear
#

I kinda want to buy that wireless Logitech keyboard to replace my steelseries

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It has this really annoying thing, lemme get a pic

wet sequoia
#

I mean fair

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I won’t judge

craggy bear
#

The A is somehow lighter than the rest, same colors set in the software

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But jk guys

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It’s all set to the light blue color

wet sequoia
#

Lmaoo used my advice

craggy bear
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But the a is like

wet sequoia
#

That’s weird bro

craggy bear
#

no

wet sequoia
#

I am green like the grass that the factory that made the keyboard ruined

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The A is protesting

craggy bear
#

Dumb A

wet sequoia
#

Ya who cares if some grass dies I just wanna have a disco at my fingertips

craggy bear
#

I hope the Q W S and the Z gang up on the A

wet sequoia
#

Ya bully that A

craggy bear
#

Hell ye

wet sequoia
#

Imagine caring about the environment dumb A

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Let me RGB just cuz there’s green in that doesn’t mean I want you to stay green

craggy bear
#

But for real

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Is the G915 good

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From Logitech

wet sequoia
#

I hate the keys

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Also there’s function keys on the left side so when you normally go to put your fingers on the wasd you usually end up on the function keys

craggy bear
#

Wot

wet sequoia
#

I tried it at a convention and hated it

craggy bear
#

It’s soooo expensive too

wet sequoia
#

Left side has these profile keys

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I had to make sure I didn’t press them when I tried the board out at the convention

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Also the keys feel awful they are like flat keys and the click I just didn’t enjoy

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There almost felt like there was no resistance on the key strokes it just felt wrong it screamed gamer no no

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Overall I just didn’t like the board review over

craggy bear
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Can you compare the switches to anything?

wet sequoia
#

Imagine switches with no resistance spray some WD-40 on there and add keyclicksoundeffect.mp4 Every time you pressed it

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Jk it just didn’t have the amount of resistance I like in my keys

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The keys from what I remember also felt rather unstable like you could press down the corner of a key but the opposite corner wouldn’t move

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I I tried it back in October but I’m trying my best to remember everything I can about it

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I just remember them sometimes being unstable on a click

wicked river
#

taken most of the advice but i cant find any issues concerning the airflow of the case so :/

noble oak
#

Nah looks good but you should get a different case

agile pelican
#

(Case can be switched, I just put it in the list temporarily)

crimson scroll
#

why 2700x

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the price you have there, you can get a 3700

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a400 sucks, it uses the s11 controller. you can do better, look at the wd blue, mx500, su800, crucial p1, etc

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also that monitor is overpriced, 450 can get you the super nice IPS 1440p 144hz LG

agile pelican
#

Yep, the monitors price is 2x bigger than it was yesterday

wicked river
#

can anyone recommend any budget monitors under $150

elfin zealot
#

you’re using budget wrong

wicked river
#

what

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$150 is my budget

elfin zealot
#

you said any budget monitors under $150

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thats saying your budget and asking for budget monitors

agile pelican
wicked river
#

thats saying your budget and asking for budget monitors
@elfin zealot uhh yeah

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my budget is $150 anyone know of any good monitors under that price

clear jacinth
#

I know a good one of around $180

elfin zealot
#

as in budget not in your budget, when people say budget they mean cheap

static pecan
#

Budget doesn't mean cheap. Budget means anything up to a certain amount of money you're willing to spend

wicked river
#

Budget doesn't mean cheap. Budget means anything up to a certain amount of money you're willing to spend
@static pecan finally

static pecan
#

You could have a budget of $5000 but that's still a budget. People online have just taken the term "budget" to always mean cheap when that isn't true

elfin zealot
#

i wouldn’t worded it “anyone know any good monitors in a budget of $150” how you worded it it sounded like you were using budget as cheap

wicked river
#

alr

crimson fossil
#

Hey folks. Any recommendation for a decent thin bezeled monitor for portrait mode?

noble oak
#

ok guys you got any good b450 motherboards?
make sure to ping me.

crimson scroll
#

b450 tomahawk/max @noble oak is a good ATX choice

noble oak
#

thats too expensive

crimson scroll
#

they go on sale for around 115

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105 for the non max

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there's the b450m pro4 i guess

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or the aorus M

noble oak
#

@crimson scroll you got a link for a non max?

crimson scroll
#

not one that's not overpriced

noble oak
#

so wdym?

crimson scroll
#

i said they go

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on

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sale

noble oak
#

ohh

crimson scroll
#

their prices are very inflated right now for any retailer that has them in stock

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occasionally they get restocked for more reasonable prices

noble oak
#

yeah

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but you got a link?

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i still wanna see the prices

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which i can't find

crimson scroll
#

search for tomahawk

noble oak
#

@crimson scroll

crimson scroll
#

thats the aorus m, yeah

noble oak
#

so will this one work?

crimson scroll
#

they'll all...work?

#

that one seems fine yes, it's got decent reviews on pcpp

noble oak
#

yeah sure

#

nvm

#

its needs a bios update

crimson scroll
#

all b450 might need a bios update

#

its very unlikely this late in the cycle

static pecan
#

Unless you're buying a B450 that's been sitting on a shelf for 6 months you shouldn't have a problem

storm umbra
#

If you’re getting second or third gen Ryzen the majority of the b450s shouldn’t need a bios update.

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First gen too

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They should say if they’re 2nd/3rd gen ready

broken raptor
#

If you have the money get a b450 tomahawk Max

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Or upgrade to A b550

#

Great boards

storm umbra
#

Tomahawk is a solid board

#

Probably best price to performance board. Great features for the price

noble oak
#

Tomahawk does NOT come with WiFi and Bluetooth in it so you have to buy a WiFi card.

#

In that note, anyone got a good WiFi card?

crimson scroll
#

tp link ac1200 is a decent one, if you want higher end look at some of the asus triple antennas

noble oak
#

Thanks

wicked river
clear jacinth
#

maybe go with a 5 3600

wicked river
#

i dont really do anything cpu intensive so i dont really see why

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i guess i could go with a cheaper mobo thinking about it

unborn kiln
#

i guess i could go with a cheaper mobo thinking about it
@wicked river I use the TOMAHAWK MAX, Its a solid board
Only issue may be no wifi or bluetooth
Used it in multiple builds

clear jacinth
#

oh and please don't cheap out on a mobo

wicked river
#

thanks

wicked river
#

how do you get bluetooth on your pc then

elfin zealot
wicked river
#

😫

clear jacinth
#

perfect

wicked river
#

thanks

unborn kiln
#

np

crimson scroll
#

p300a>p300 and 3300x>3200g

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assuming you find them in stock

green gale
#

@unborn kiln "5. No linking or advertising of content which you/your associates would profit off , ex. money, credits, community growth, donations or similar."

#

Your fine with linking regular links

stuck bluff
#

If the link gets deleted by automod. I'll take a look and post if it's appropriate to the conversation and safe. 😅

green gale
#

Good guy wayfinder : D

noble oak
#

is it 100% necessary to create a backup if im building a new pc or can I just redownload everything to keep it organized

#

def not neccesary

#

its backup

#

ok

#

cause i have a laptop rn and the files are just scattered everywhere so i dont wanna go through the trouble

#

yeah

#

if i were

#

u id get any thing important on to a external hdd

#

and start fresh

#

but keep it organized this time

#

i cant think of anything important. i dont keep photos on it and school work is all on the cloud so

#

then u should be fine

#

games are saved on steam and such

#

just make sure

#

u remember all ur passwords

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gmail etc

#

yee

#

k

#

then u should be good to go

#

ight

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thanks for help

static pecan
#

You could copy game files over to avoid having to reinstall but other than that if there's nothing on your laptop you aren't prepared to lose then it's not necessary

wicked river
#

@wicked river I use the TOMAHAWK MAX, Its a solid board
Only issue may be no wifi or bluetooth
Used it in multiple builds
@unborn kiln what do you mean may not be

unborn kiln
#

I am confused what do you mean?

wicked river
#

like why might it not have wifi or bluetooth

#

it has an ethernet port

#

idk im new to this stuff

unborn kiln
#

It doesn't have WiFi (wireless network) or Bluetooth
Sorry if I was unclear

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It does have an ethernet port

#

So you can have wired ethernet but no WiFi
If you want WiFi or Bluetooth you need adaptors I did link some above 👍

wicked river
#

alr thanks

#

not your fault im just really inexperience with pc building and stuff like that

unborn kiln
#

No problem

#

Please feel free to hmu if you have any other questions

#

I am sure I could help, if not, at least point you in the right direction

#

👍

crimson scroll
#

Password manager friends

#

No need to remember nearly all your passwords

noble oak
#

@unborn kiln what WiFi card did you use?

unborn kiln
#

Hey
I don't use a WiFi card got an ethernet cable

noble oak
#

oh alrighht

unborn kiln
#

The pc part picker list is blank for some reason

noble oak
#

o

#

let me fix it

unborn kiln
#

👍

noble oak
#

there you go.

#

Only think im missing is my wifi card, I've found some good ones but it looks hard to install, and are at least 2 years old so I don't know how good they are anymore.

unborn kiln
#

Looks good maybe consider an NVMe?

#

Also check out the phanteks cases
P400a for example

#

Other than that I don't really have much to add

#

Only think im missing is my wifi card, I've found some good ones but it looks hard to install, and are at least 2 years old so I don't know how good they are anymore.
@noble oak
Send a pic if possible

#

Feel free to DM me👍

noble oak
#

Oh thanks! Alright I sure will

stable lark
#

setup ideas?

crimson scroll
#

?

wide shore
#

anything i should fix?

crimson scroll
#

why 2700x

#

already own it?

#

also, sn550>wd blue for like a dollar or two more, same size

stable lark
#

i need some stuff for my gaming set up

crimson scroll
#

looks...fine other than that? matx mobo in a atx case but w/e

stable lark
#

like not mouses and stuff

#

Is a mouse bungee good?

wide shore
#

2700x because the cooler and better than normal 2700

crimson scroll
#

but why not 3700 or 3600

wide shore
#

should i maybe upgrade the gpu?

crimson scroll
#

mouse bungees are cool yeah, can help with cable drag

#

can also consider paracording your mouse or getting a wireless one

#

also the X series are pretty much never worth it over the regular

#

you can OC them to be pretty close

#

XT if you're an enthusiast going for overclocking records or something, sure

wide shore
#

huh

#

can i buy the wraith rgb cooler online somewhere else?

crimson scroll
#

you can get it for like $25-30 on r/hws

#

or...just get a better cooler

#

arctic freezer 34 duo for example

#

but yeah, i wouldn't buy a zen+ processor over a zen2 unless the price is really good

wide shore
#

ok

crimson scroll
#

for 232...nah. you can get used 3700x for like 250 or less

stable lark
#

should my pc stand on carpet or desk?

crimson scroll
#

a 3600 will cost you 160

#

ideally desk

stable lark
#

i need a other desk then

#

Mine rn is not that good

wide shore
#

if you do wanna put it on the floor atleast put like something under it so the carpet doesnt get into your psu

crimson scroll
#

or just get some cardboard and stack it so your pc is off the floor

stable lark
#

true

wide shore
#

i put a wooden plank under my pc because i have carpet

crimson scroll
#

@wide shore what are you doing with your pc

#

just gaming

#

or other production stuff

wide shore
#

im thinking about streaming

#

and editing

crimson scroll
#

go 3700x over 3600 then

wide shore
#

ok

#

is aio good or just go air cooler?

crimson scroll
#

the 2060 ko will help over a regular 2060 as well

#

AIO is fine, air coolers are fine

#

they have their benefits and cons

wide shore
#

okay

#

aios are a bit pricey

#

120mm or 140mm for the case?

crimson scroll
#

you mean case fans?

wide shore
#

i mean like

#

aio

#

because i might go aio

crimson scroll
#

ideally neither

#

120 and 140 aios aren't really better than air cooling

wide shore
#

oops

#

i meant

crimson scroll
#

and more expensive

wide shore
#

240 and 280

crimson scroll
#

280 is larger so it's better, for the same fan and pump design

#

whether your case supports it is another issue

stable lark
#

do you guys recommend some gaming desks?

crimson scroll
#

i wouldn't pick the h510 if you're worried about airflow. it does fine, it's just not the best

#

look at the p300a for something that is around that price range and has good airflow

wide shore
#

alright

crimson scroll
stable lark
wide shore
#

what are some good case fans?

crimson scroll
#

arctic p/f12 are good budget fans

crimson scroll
#

noctua is high end airflow/cooling/noise, looks being subjective

#

if you like rgb, thermaltake riing, nzxt aer 2, or corsair QL/LL fans are the big name brands, uphere for cheaper, still good rgb fans

noble oak
#

the guys the amd stock cooler preforms good right?

#

ping me pls

crimson scroll
#

@noble oak it works fine. without any serious OCing it'll work. wouldn't say it's good, just adequate

noble oak
#

great

crimson scroll
#

my 2600 with wraith stealth gets up to 80c in games

#

so, not good. but perfectly adequate

noble oak
#

ay how long does a bios update take?

#

saucy man

crimson scroll
#

depends

#

like 10 min

noble oak
#

ohhhh ok

crimson scroll
#

if it feels like it's taking a long time just let it go

#

you can brick your system by interrupting it

noble oak
#

so this should work fine?

crimson scroll
#

yes

#

most people don't need a 970 evo though

noble oak
#

eh i do

crimson scroll
#

and my complaint about the kraken still stands

noble oak
#

wdym

crimson scroll
#

if you're going liquid, the EK 240/360 aio and liquid freezer II 280/360 are better

noble oak
#

you got a link?

crimson scroll
#

just search for them in the pcpp list

#

or google

#
noble oak
#

i dont liek the looks

#

Like*

crimson scroll
#

you can turn off the rgb if you want, but if you don't like it then you don't like it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

the other one i mentioned you should watch r/buildapcsales for it to come back into stock

noble oak
#

surething

#

bye now

noble oak
#

theres nothing u could tell me

low vigil
#

You're welcome guys

elfin zealot
#

fake

crimson scroll
#

I've never heard of that aio

clear jacinth
#

it looks kinda ugly imo

ashen tusk
#

Can anyone recommend a good hard drive for a affordable price?
Thank you x

#

ping me if you answer

unborn kiln
#

@ashen tusk
Just stick with western digital. Cheaper the Seagate and you don't sacrifice much, if anything..

ashen tusk
#

thank you, i will check it out

unborn kiln
#

No problem

ashen tusk
#

i found one with 2 tb for 150 dollars

#

good deal

unborn kiln
#

Solid deal, got one in my pc

ashen tusk
#

nice

clear jacinth
#

isn't a 2tb seagate barracuda like $80?

unborn kiln
#

150 is a little high

unborn kiln
#

Sorry i am in South Africa

clear jacinth
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150 is indeed a little high for a 2 tb hdd

unborn kiln
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We get them here at around 50 dollars

clear jacinth
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that's a solid deal

unborn kiln
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Where are you looking? @ashen tusk

ashen tusk
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im from denmark, idk what 900 krones is in dollars

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i just guessed

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danish webside tho

clear jacinth
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still $120 is a bit much

unborn kiln
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that's a solid deal
@clear jacinth Bought one second hand for something like 20$
While not recommended it was cheap😂

clear jacinth
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loool

stuck bluff
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140.34usd

clear jacinth
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jeez

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still a bit much for a 2tb hdd

lucid wigeon
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wait

unborn kiln
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Wd purple is a cctv surveillance built for 24 hour use

lucid wigeon
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its not 140

unborn kiln
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Wd purple is a cctv surveillance built for 24 hour use
@unborn kiln Look for "blue"

lucid wigeon
clear jacinth
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it's danish krones

lucid wigeon
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oh shit yeah

clear jacinth
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not norwegian krones :p

unborn kiln
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The cctv hdds are way more expensive because they rated for 24 hour use

lucid wigeon
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140 is way too expensive, surely wd have a retailer that sells for cheaper

unborn kiln
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@ashen tusk WD Blue is the one you want..

clear jacinth
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👌

ashen tusk
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👍

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@clear jacinth does it go in the pc, or does it lay on the desk or something?

clear jacinth
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in the pc

ashen tusk
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perfect

unborn kiln
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In the pc please😅

clear jacinth
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you connect a sata cable to ur mobo and a sata power cable to ur psu

ashen tusk
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i found a danish webside, so i dont have to pay a whole lot for the shipping too

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where they sell it ofc

unborn kiln
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Nice!

ashen tusk
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ye

clear jacinth
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amazing! hype

hallow falcon
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Is AMD better than Intel CPUs?

static pecan
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Depends what for. AMD has all around better value and performance per dollar but Intel's highest end i7 and i9 CPUs can still pull out ahead of AMD chips in gaming. If you want to do anything besides just gaming like live streaming or video encoding then AMD is the way to go

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Honestly though it's almost impossible for anyone to notice the FPS difference between an AMD and Intel CPUs in games since the GPU does most of the work

elfin zealot
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Is AMD better than Intel CPUs?
@hallow falcon intel for single thread amd for multithread

hallow falcon
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TheeDillllie was super nice and helped me out with getting a parts build. Would anyone wanna check it out?

elfin zealot
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so intel is better at single tasks amd is better at multitasking im pretty sure

clear jacinth
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yep, intel is better at single tasks and amd is better at multitasking

naive dagger
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Is an rog Strix rx 570 8gb a good card

clear jacinth
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for a budget build, yes

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maybe consider getting a 580

crimson scroll
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@hallow falcon sure post it

hallow falcon
crimson scroll
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seems fine to me

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you can get slightly cheaper ram and save like ten bucks lol

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while still keeping the 3200mhz/cl16 combo

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also that WD is kinda overpriced, you can get 2tb for the same price

clear jacinth
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ten bucks 😳

crimson scroll
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i mean

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saving ten bucks is ten bucks, it's not like you're giving up shipping times or anything

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could get a cheaper PSU too but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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the part selection is fine, they could just save some money, like 50-70 bucks probably

hallow falcon
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How/where could I get the 2tb for the same price?

crimson scroll
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And with that money I'd go to a nicer monitor, the 5700xt is overkill for 1920 144hz

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You'd get a wd blue or Seagate compute for 50-60

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Most people aren't gonna notice the difference between the blue and the black

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Unless you have a special use case for this computer involving heavy video editing and transfer

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In which case you'd want a second ssd anyways

hallow falcon
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What’s a compute?

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And any monitors you recommend?

crimson scroll
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Just Seagate branding

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I'd look at 1440p 144hz, that would pair nicely with the 5700xt

clear jacinth
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well, i mean.. there isn't really a big difference to a 1440p monitor and a 1080p monitor imo

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  • they're more expensive
crimson scroll
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Subjective I guess

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I can definitely tell the difference

hallow falcon
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So would a Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive be best? It’s green but I don’t care about the color

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It’s $54

crimson scroll
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It'll be fine yeah

hallow falcon
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How come the crucial P1 I have is like double the price?

crimson scroll
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Seagate does have worse reliability than wd according to backblaze, so go wd if you're worried

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Because that's an nvme ssd and these are hard drives

hallow falcon
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But the hard drives are still put inside the pc like the ssd? What are the differences between an nvme ssd and a hard drive.

crimson scroll
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Yes

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You put internal hard drives inside

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A hard drive uses a head to read/write magnetic disks

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An ssd has no moving parts, it's all flash storage, kind of like a USB stick

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There are different kinds of SSDs. 2.5 inch and m.2 2280 refer to physical dimensions

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Sata and nvme refer to protocols

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Nvme drives will be m.2 but not all m.2 drives are nvme

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Sata has slower read/write but for most people, you won't take advantage of the speeds of nvme

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However, the price gap is small enough that you might as well get the faster drive. New games may start to make use of that speed anyways, and there are less cables to manage with an M.2 drive

elfin zealot
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for a budget build, yes
@clear jacinth ffs budget is an amount of money you can spend not cheap

crimson scroll
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it's used to mean cheaper though

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i think we get that

stuck bluff
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There's no reason to be rude, just keep it civil 😅

elfin zealot
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it's used to mean cheaper though
@crimson scroll well thats the wrong definition

crimson scroll
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doesn't matter. it's entered the common lexicon

elfin zealot
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just please use budget properly

crimson scroll
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there are plenty of words that aren't "used correctly" but we all get what it means

elfin zealot
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doesn't matter. it's entered the common lexicon
@crimson scroll if you want to mean cheaper just use cheaper because budget is completely different

crimson scroll
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i'm not gonna keep arguing with you

stuck bluff
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I feel it's best to leave this one here.

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No more please.

crimson scroll
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but i understood what he meant and i have no issue with him using it

stuck bluff
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Let's not argue over it.

elfin zealot
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just use cheaper not budget that’s all i ask

merry spire
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Idk if this falls under this category but

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Forgive me please

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dont do this to ur pc btw

noble oak
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The water gives more FPS ingame

finite plank
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hey there could anyone help me out with this build

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anyhting i could add/ improve/ save money on

low vigil
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@ivory coral

ivory coral
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haha Sorry james!

nova bough
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i have a dell inpiron 620

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LOL

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cost like 80$

ivory coral
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it depends if you are happy or wish to save and upgrade, depends if it can run games or whatever you use your pc for that you are happy with

nova bough
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I guess i will get a pc

elfin zealot
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@nova bough what’s your budget

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or the most you want to spend on a pc

nova bough
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no idea

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but lets just say 700

ivory coral
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should put what currency as well 😛

elfin zealot
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yeah

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r u in uk or us or other?

nova bough
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Dollars

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us

elfin zealot
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ok one sec

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650

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a bit higher cause of the pandemic

nova bough
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O

elfin zealot
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nvm i think that’s the wrong link

nova bough
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K

elfin zealot
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nvm it’s the right

ivory coral
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you can likely reuse your currently HD unless you gonna give that pc to a family member to save some costs

nova bough
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k

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thx

elfin zealot
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i got that from arkis server

nova bough
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AMD?

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What about intel

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i7

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what is a good intel i7

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@elfin zealot

elfin zealot
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i know nothing about intel

nova bough
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ok

elfin zealot
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but amd is multithread not single so you can multitask

nova bough
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thx

merry spire
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I dont reccomend intel cpus

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they arent good value imo

static pecan
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@nova bough I'd recommend an R5 3600 and any kind of ATX B450 board that has good VRM cooling and is cheap. For a GPU I'd go with either an RX5600 or GTX 1660TI, 16GB of DDR4 RAM that's at least 3000mhz or higher (AMD CPUs like fast ram), at least an 80+ Gold rated PSU that's at least 200 watts above what PCPartPicker says all of the components will draw, and whatever cheap ATX case that has the features you want and good cooling

nova bough
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OK

west marten
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@low vigil Any more details?

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Did anything happen before it stopped working?

low vigil
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Uh