💻-building-a-pc

[muted viper]

@tropic hollow

[tropic hollow]

Ouch

feelsbad

[muted viper]

my main is also suspended

[tropic hollow]

riprip

[humble rampart]

good collection there

[noble oak]

still running my siberia 200's

[jagged sinew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/391635862959554567/587927913844703269/61873590_574171482991433_2466161730212855808_n.png

@minor onyx don't you think there's a bit of space underneth the steelseries log for a bluetooth chip + a battery? https://steelseries.com/gaming-keyboards/apex-m750-tkl

[minor onyx]

Oh hey that's the keyboard I won

Hey if you can make it work go for it. Just don't hurt it it's too pretty

[jagged sinew]

XD

How big is the steelseries logo and how thicc is it?

[minor onyx]

Wait a minute

No this isn't mine. I have the non tkl. The one with a numpad so my logo is above the numpad

Certainly wouldn't ba able to put a chip in mine I wouldn't think. Not sure about that one.

[jagged sinew]

So between the arrows and the key above, there's a space that's about as big as the tkl version, you don't think a chip and some battery could reside?

[minor onyx]

BT chips are pretty small, so if you had an equally small battery, possibly.

[fast jewel]

issue is, what kind of battery?

[jagged sinew]

Lithium iON,. what else?

[fast jewel]

lipo

idk

pretty cheap with high voltage and looooads of capacity... idk what you'd need to power the m750 for instance

[noble oak]

uhm what does the uv coating help againts?

[chilly edge]

Wearing down the keycaps i believe

like, rubbing the lettering off them

and i do believe it also helps with how it feels

[noble oak]

@jagged sinew what are u trying to do

[fast jewel]

Wireless keyboard mod

[jagged sinew]

@noble oak I want a wireless ble mechanical ISO keyboard

tkl preferably

[noble oak]

@jagged sinew U wanna make it wireless urself

[jagged sinew]

Ye

[noble oak]

@jagged sinew How do u do that 😮 Is it possible with the Steelseries apex 750?

AH nvm I got no bluethooth in my mobo

[regal terrace]

building a $1000 pc this summer. First timer any suggestions?

[chilly edge]

I'd recommend waiting for the new AMD stuff

[rose bison]

jan 7

[jagged sinew]

@noble oak I want to crack it open, route the internal usb cable to somewhere, where there's space for a chip.

[noble oak]

@jagged sinew oh

[jagged sinew]

Do you think there could be space in the space above the arrow keys?

[noble oak]

@jagged sinew Idk how all that works ;-;

How big would the chip be..

[jagged sinew]

About a thumb, maybe smaller

[dark linden]

any thoughts about the Radeon 5700XT? Please, don't start with efficiency discussions and manufacturing process thoughts.

I am asking from a pure user/gamer pov. It's RTX2070 performances, without the gimmicky RT-NvidiaBased technology and for 50/70$ less.
It also has the sharpening feature which looks cool...

If we have to discuss power consumption and manufacturing process:

• Nvidia made up figures, but they can only assume Radeon consume over its TBP
• RTX cards are breaking, and also easier than expected in many use case I saw over the internet so I won't call onto being "cooler" or easier to run
• I'd like to wait reviews and under-volting benefits before jumping to power figures and or goodness of the architecture...this stuff is going into consoles, so unless we are preparing for a broken gen (like the 360/PS3 were) they must be easy to maintain into specific temperature ranges
• I owned GTX480/580/670...and they were hot. So this whole argument over 4C and 50$ of electricity bill each 4 years is a bit overrated, from my POV

I wonder the benefits of the low latency tech @144+ FPS

[noble oak]

im sure the nvidia cards gonna be cheaper at least thats what ive heard(if they havent alrdy lowered the price) ? if i would choose i would still take the nvidia card for the geforce experience and rt support
the sharpening looks cool i agree
3year warranty so in that time i expect that there will be even better cards and better tech

[minor onyx]

Doesn't the 1080 or 1080TI perform the same or outperform the 2070 in most areas anyway and is cheaper?

[noble oak]

yes

1080ti outperforms

[dark linden]

Yes, they do. But it looks not so easy to find a new 1080Ti at the right price here in UK...I'm going to do a new build at the end of the year...I am pretty sure I am going to buy the 3800X as CPU but I don't know what to get as graphics card

I currently play 1080p with 144Hz display...and I plan to update to a 240Hz sometimes in the future

this 5700XT seems to be a better alternative to the 1080Ti than the RTX2070

I really don't care about Ray Tracing now...but I can't get a proper idea of the product...

performance and price are right, features are good enough and AMD tends to improve performance over time at the same rate as Nvidia if not at a better one in some rare/specific cases

but the 1080Ti has a more mature architecture and is a solid performer, so I would still tend to buy one rather than something new and unexplored like the 5700XT

there's also the 7nm node which is a big interrogative:

• it's new
• we are closer to the Moore's Law limits
• doesn't mean anything in terms of "efficiency" because an unstable node breaks any possible improvement

in fact, seems to work really great with the CPUs, but not as well with the graphics cards as well as for the APUs and SoCs (even Apple A12 didn't had any major gain from the last year's A11)

[noble oak]

one thing i was thinking since it has the game clock but possibly can reach way higher clocks maybe theyll sell some beefy coolers for it with even better clocks

[dark linden]

Yeah...I was looking for Sapphire/Asus/MSI custom boards but still none have been announced

If they do not tend to overheat a beefy cooler means extra performances

and honestly I'd give AMD a chance at that point

I think that the PCI-Exp 4.0 bus will also help a lot using those GDDR6 RAM at max capacity in the long run

which is something to consider

[noble oak]

also quad channel

oops i misread i mean the ddr4 mobo ram

[minor onyx]

I'm pre-disposed to dislike AMD cards myself. My first time buying a GPU was an AMD that was utter garbage. Broke in just under a year with it making the screen go a dark green and the audio making this loud grinding sound. Would stay that way till I rebooted. Was a constant thing. A bit my fault for not buying warranty, but still. Went to Nvidia after that and had great cards since.

[dark linden]

@minor onyx nothing lasts forever. My first Radeon card was a 9200 Atlantic, then I bought the 9800XT and it was a great card as well...it lasted me 6 years and served well also my father's PC. After that I bought the X1600XT which was amazing but then, without even trying, just from the state of the drivers I switched to Nvidia's GTX580.

After the 580 I bought two GTX670 in SLi: great setup, but...after some driver released (not even 12 months) I had to dismantle my SLi setup because became useless...I used a single 670 until last year with 0 issues.

In the meanwhile AMD wasn't doing really well from a technical POV and so I decided to buy the 1070 and...the last 12 months have been the most confusing of my life...

I think that I have a certain amount of performances while they simply sink down for two driver releases and then come back one release later...

this is really disturbing and way similar to the experience I had at the EOL of my old X1600XT

so, even Nvidia can screw up and is screwing up...

[minor onyx]

Yes but mine went awful in under a year. Combined with the fact it was my first GPU purchase...

[dark linden]

lot of bad practices in the last two years

You can't let a single experience to determine your purchase

I just jumped off Radeon's boat to Nvidia's one when Nvidia started releasing a better product

FX5000/6000/7000/8000 where really bad in front of ATi Radeon cards at the time...but then with the 5xx series the wheel turned

I don't know if AMD is worhty for sure now...but I think is worth considering the product and analize it before deciding what to do

[minor onyx]

Was an awful first experience for Radeon, plus while AMD has always had great price to performance, I preferred the raw power of most GTX cards. My 1060 could run most things on 1080p on high with 40-50fps, and my 1080 can run most things at 1440p with anywhere from 60-144fps

[dark linden]

that's the spirit which drives me considering...RTX cards are garbage, and they brake easily within weeks

do you understand that you are speaking of Pascal alone while I am giving you a 19-years-old experience insight?

I'm not saying I don't understand you...but before the nightmare-ish period they were the leading company

[minor onyx]

Only ever used pascal. My first card was an AMD R9 380 that I had for about a year. Maybe two. After that I jumped to the 1060 when the 10 series released. Before the AMD I was stuck with an AMP APU.

[dark linden]

Well, so you missed Polaris 10/20 which was the only worthy GCN based architecture...but is not competitive against Pascal anyway so I would've said you to buy Nvidia instead any time of day

Now Navi is worth considering a chance

and the Adrenaline drivers look like a finally worthy software suite

probably I'm going to buy a 1080Ti, but I think I'm going to wait for reviews and user experience before cutting out something. One thing is sure, is really difficult to compare such similar products

when the difference is just 3/10% and 50$...it all comes to software preference rather than actual difference in the gaming experience

[noble oak]

i bought used 1080ti still in warranty year ago for 700€ i think that was my best investment
before that i had gtx 1070 which i sold back for the price i bought it for

[dark linden]

I am building from scratch...but I don't think I would spend that amount of money for a 1080ti

I could buy it, but at a fair price

[celest schooner]

Anyone have those new SS keyboards in their arsenal yet?

Is it worth upgrading from m750

[trim blaze]

@dark linden Unless you’re in a rush to build I’d suggest waiting for real-world performance and benchmarks for the RX 5700 XT. At face value: In AMD’s benchmarks it matches/beats the 2070 is some titles (taken with a grain of salt of course), has image enhancement features (people are making jokes and means about RTX on and DLSS). The 2070 Super might be coming as well so that could be a potential option, as it’s expected to be a bit better than the original 2070 at the 5700’s price.

I’d just suggest waiting for a bit.

[dark linden]

@trim blaze I'm waiting through the end of the year anyway so I'll have time to check price/performance and pick the best choice for my use case.
The SUPER stuff seems a gimmicky rebranding (from the latest rumors) and I hope is not so...it will make a mess with prices just to steal clients and honestly I don't like when company do this, is just trying to kill something good before it even starts...

Regarding AMD benchmarks I am a lot curious because they claimed they used the best rendering API/scenario for each card and ultra settings, so in some slides you could see AMD using Vulkan while Nvidia using DX11 because they were their best performance scenario...I'm curious to see if this is true at the same preset and if some magazine/youtuber/tech-zine will try to replicate that test or if they will just ignore the use case.

Because honestly I always swap from Vulkan/DX11/DX12 with my 1070 and stick with the most performing rendering API in my machine...I think this is a fair comparison.

[trim blaze]

Yeah, we’ll see

[noble oak]

the super is def better than the 2070 normal no other reason they would sell it

[minor onyx]

How much though

The 1080 performs about the same as the 2070 and the 1080TI performs better. The only thing the 2070 has over them is Ray tracing. They still sold that though.

[noble oak]

yeh

[dark linden]

The SUPER is rumored to be a re-branded 2080...so the super version of each card will be a rebranded version of the higher tier card...

and this will create a mess...if it's true I can already see broken drivers and two identical cards sold at different prices...

It's really shady...I hope next gen will be better/clearer...because Nvidia either risks to sell now to undersell next gen (and for us there's no gain in performance) or to come out with some amazing RTX 30xx series...

in every case, I'll take what's the best performance/bucks in the 1080p/144Hz territory

😛

[trim blaze]

@minor onyx I was fairly sure that the 2070 outperformed the 1080 by around ~10%

[chilly edge]

1080 and 2070 are roughly equal

[trim blaze]

Really?

I mean I know they’re in the same range and are like pretty close

But I was sure the 2070 had at least like 5-7% more performance

I guess it’s within the margin of error ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[minor onyx]

Yes, roughly equal. You don't get any real noticeable improvements in the 2070 vs the 1080 that justifies a switch. The 2070 does have better multi peak rendering and is apparently cheaper now so there's that as an incentive to buy one over a 1080, but if you have one already then there's not really any reason to switch unless you really want Ray tracing. The 1080TI on the other hand outperforms the 2070 and the 2080. Likewise the 2080 is better than the regular 1080, but isn't a massive improvement.

[chilly edge]

One thing about 2070 vs 1080 though is that the 2070 uses GDDR6, more bandwidth

[minor onyx]

This is true

[trim blaze]

Yeah, I figured. A switch really isn’t justifiable. If you’re buying from scratch, then sure.

[minor onyx]

Though the GDDR6 also seems to be failing a lot as well

Seen lots of people get bad VRAM on the 20 series

I'm actually kind of surprised the 2070 is so cheap though

Though that may be why

[dark linden]

More than the GDDR6 I would say that the poor memory VRMs implemented by Nvidia fail a lot easier than GDDR5X ones

[lusty cove]

All the Steelseries love with my set up

[muted viper]

nice

[muted viper]

what is this?

oh nvm

[chilly edge]

It's a better binned chip with something special maybe the IHS or something

[muted viper]

ah

[median tangle]

Could anyone make me a PC part picker for a gaming computer under 500? My brother will build it

[chilly edge]

under 500 what? GBP? USD? AUD?

[median tangle]

Usd

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/hXzKHx/entry-level-intel-gaming-build

That's my current best build idea is that good

[chilly edge]

How much can you stretch over $500?

[median tangle]

@chilly edge sorry for late response. The highest i could probably go is 550 usd

[minor onyx]

Oof

[chilly edge]

ok im awake now and i've gotten it to $560

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9bTPRJ

Double the ram at a faster speed with a 6c/12t ryzen 5 1600 and a better power supply and better case

[clever dagger]

This is effectively the mATX version of my rig, and I can tell you that that machine would handle most AAA games. I can run Division 2 on an RX 570 (be it mine from PowerColor, not Gigabyte, and OCed to 1425 on the core and 2000 on mem) at an average of 100 FPS on my system. One thing to note though-I would STRONGLY recommend adding more case fans as soon as you can afford to later on. Both Ryzen and Polaris love airflow, and adding in 2 140mm Noctua fans to the front and a single 120mm to the back as exhaust dropped my GPU temps by like 20C and my CPU temps by 10C

You would be hard-pressed right now to find a much better budget buy, if seeking performance-per-dollar like I imagine you are @median tangle, then AMD right now, ESPECIALLY with their APUs right now, which would save you another $10ish there, and if all you're looking to run would be esports titles like Fortnite and CSGO, negate the immediate need for a discrete GPU like the 570 in @chilly edge's list

Don't expect 100+ FPS though, but you'll definitely hit or exceed 60FPS

[chilly edge]

I mean if we needed an essay being written about the parts list, i'd be more than happy to do it.

[south valve]

i got lots of crazy ideas that i could try, but i dont know if people would want to do it

[noble oak]

look what i did to this 300s

[median tangle]

Decent?
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2400g
Memory: 8 GB
Storage: 250 GB SSD
GPU: AMD Radeon Vega 11
Power Supply: 400W
Price: $450

[noble oak]

what games would you be playing with that? @median tangle

[median tangle]

Fortnite, Apex, PUBG, CSGO, mostly those

[noble oak]

seems doable

is it dual channel ram and at what speed

i mean the ram

[chilly edge]

Uhh

pretty sure you can get much better for that price.

[chilly edge]

There's this for $550 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/68dJ6s

Ryzen 5 2400g
16gb RAM
1tb HDD, 250gb SSD
650w fully modular 80+ gold EVGA power supply
Deepcool matrexx 55
Some Coolermaster RGB fans

[noble oak]

thats like 100 more dude

[chilly edge]

I know

but so much more

better case, better ram

it looks pretty with all the RGB

[noble oak]

100bucks could be invested to a used gpu

[chilly edge]

true

but then having a good base system to upgrade off of is good too

you don't want to have to swap the case and PSU when you next upgrade

[median tangle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xnGVMZ

my first ever pc part picker dont kill me lol

[noble oak]

@median tangle that looks good

but can you find faster memory for it?

like 3200mzh~

esp ryzen will notice the performance improvement on the ram side

[noble oak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YLwjw6
here i think this would be better @median tangle

i highly recommend ram to be 16gb

and the ssd should last you longer

[chilly edge]

@median tangle does it have to be an mATX build?

and i think the best thing to do is wait for AMD's new processors

[median tangle]

@chilly edge I’d prefer a mini atx build

It leaves more room for cable management

[chilly edge]

Alright. I'm not sure about the airflow of the Q300L, and i would advise you to get an ASRock b450m Pro4 over the MSI gaming motherboard

[blissful robin]

can you guys help me with the budget? I want to renovate the computer. I have budget of 3000$ And I would like the New GPU and New Core I. And Also Some case.

[chilly edge]

Personally, i'd recommend waiting for AMD's new processors.

[noble oak]

cooler master h500p
meshify C
SilverStone RL06 Pro
@blissful robin those are good cases

[muted viper]

dangit should have censored his name

[chilly edge]

we don't witch hunt

honestly, i think if steelseries found a way to provide doubleshot keycaps then it'd be great

[dark linden]

Lols...you can buy doubleshot keycaps for literally 30$ on internet...Corsair asks 70$ extra for those 😛

btw it could be a nice add-on...even if I don't mind the regular ones...

[chilly edge]

I suppose

[heavy forum]

frick razer

[noble oak]

knowing corsair keycaps 😂 i wouldnt even consider buying pbt ones from them

[shut mulch]

Rip

[tropic hollow]

oof

have you tried putting it in rice tho

[chilly edge]

yes

draw the water vapour out of it

[strong pewter]

cool tilt wheel mod :b

[south radish]

Gaming keyboards are cool, but I prefer more enthusiast keyboards.

[chilly edge]

@south radish How "enthusiast" are the keyboards you prefer?

[south valve]

no distractions, makes no noise and they have a actuation point of u gotta press it in, and it types it in. Would pay good money for that. Also repairable.

[south radish]

@chilly edge I still like to game, so right now I use Kailh Speed Copper switches.

[chilly edge]

Not the switches, the keyboard itself

[oblique quarry]

are the new Apex keyboards out of stock for the uk? 😦

[south radish]

@chilly edge I'm running a GMMK because it's hotswappable, until I find a good 75% keyboard. I also need new keycaps too; I'm just using the keycaps off of my ducky one 2

[chilly edge]

75%, id recommend the KBD75 from kbdfans

[south radish]

That's the one I want

I've just been looking for keycaps I could use

[pulsar fossil]

Well well well... Look what we have here

[knotty laurel]

That's nice, Lennart!

[pulsar fossil]

Now I'm just waiting on getting the pro version

@knotty laurel yeah 😀

Looking forward to trying it

[knotty laurel]

I can understand that, the Pro is really something else!

[tropic notch]

@pulsar fossil can I have your old one 😉😉

[pulsar fossil]

Sorry @tropic notch :P

[tropic notch]

:( @pulsar fossil

[pulsar fossil]

I need an upgrade for my Apex M500 at home :(

[tropic notch]

I don't have a keyboard :(

[pulsar fossil]

Well that sucks

[wary blaze]

Y’all mind if I send a pic of my all razer setup?

[tropic notch]

Yeeyyeee

[muted viper]

@wary blaze I WOULDNT

sr caps*

[wary blaze]

Why is that?

@muted viper

[muted viper]

well

i said i wouldnt mind

@wary blaze

[muted viper]

@tropic hollow

autograph...

[tropic hollow]

ahaha sure

[muted viper]

i mean you can if you want

gtg

[toxic raft]

IsmokeHeroin#0247 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[harsh sparrow]

I was beckoned!

[tropic notch]

Yeeyee

[harsh sparrow]

You have done well @tropic notch

[tropic notch]

@harsh sparrow 👍👍👍

[sour mason]

Hey @tropic notch can you give me a little feedback about your new Rival 600 and your QCK Heavy because I would buy them and I want a little bit of your feedback about that.

[lilac marten]

@sour mason I'm not the guy you were asking but I have the Rival 600 and the QCK Heavy, is there anything in particular that you wanted to know?

[noble oak]

@sour mason The mouse is very good, just in time the side grip things will like, lose their glue under them..

[sour mason]

ok

isn't the qck heavy too soft to move the mice

[noble oak]

@sour mason No idea I got the qck prism XL

[sour mason]

i would buy the qck edge xxl

[noble oak]

Idk it

I just got my finalmouse so i wont use my rival 600 a lot

[sour mason]

It is just like the prism only without lights

[noble oak]

Oh

I see

Well I would go for an bigger mousepad then

I find mine to small..

[sour mason]

ok

[noble oak]

Yes

[sour mason]

I would buy something like the edge but with the size of the heavy

[noble oak]

I seeee

[sour mason]

@noble oak I know about this side grip mistake on the rival 600,do you know a solution because I would buy it for my self

[noble oak]

No idea yet

[sour mason]

https://de.steelseries.com/gaming-accessories/rival-600-series-side-panels

this will be an good idea

[sour mason]

The actuation of the Omni Point switch is only a 1-10 setting and not the exact number of mm.Do you know maybe what numer from 1-10 is 1.5mm?

[muted viper]

@oblique quarry https://www.3daimtrainer.com/ might help you adjust your sensitivity

[chilly edge]

did a quick run of that and it doesnt feel quite exact

[muted viper]

finaly got a pic

[fiery monolith]

i like it

[raven valve]

:)

Apex 350 / rival 650 / arctis 7

What do you think :p ?

[fast jewel]

looks nice

[tropic notch]

@raven valve I think you should send it to me :)

[raven valve]

@tropic notch no sorry 😂😂 but I spent a lot of time (3 years) to bring everything together

[tropic notch]

:(

[median tangle]

What’s Best?
CUK Stratos: https://www.amazon.com/Stratos-Desktop-Graphics-3000MHz-Computer/dp/B07SF86V5Y

SkyTech: https://www.walmart.com/ip/HDD-RX-Shadow-Windows-WiFi-8GB-DDR4-24X-Computer-ROM-Radeon-Home-1TB-10-Ryzen-AC-3-5GHz-64-bit-580-4-Core-PC-3-DVD-Desktop-4G-SkyTech-1300X-Gaming/792830001

eBay PC: http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=202684848785&category=179&pm=1&ds=0&t=1558402991000&ver=0

[tropic notch]

@median tangle build your own, it's better

[raven valve]

Build own pc ♥️

[chilly edge]

Definitely

[pulsar fossil]

But remember, for some folks, prebuilt PCs are best for some :)

[chilly edge]

yeah

I got a prebuilt in 2015 to share with my brother for christmas

it was great value

but now that im a bit older

build PC all the way

[pulsar fossil]

I'm using one now and besides the fact that it doesn't have any spare PCI-E it's pretty nice

An Omen Obelisk to be exact.

[graceful egret]

my experience with prebuilt pc systems is that they're always so expensive

you save at least 100 bucks building your own pc

[pulsar fossil]

Paying 100 bucks to have someone else build your machine for you and get warranty on the entire machine rather than the individual parts seems like a good deal to me 🤷

[spare elk]

lennart #1337 Leeet

[pulsar fossil]

@spare elk that's why I picked it :p

[spare elk]

nice

[neon fossil]

@pulsar fossil except that you couæd probalby build it yourself even cheaper because of the parts they use. But prebuilds aren't a baf thing i just like to configure my builds myself

[tropic notch]

@graceful egret the nzxt starter build is actually a really good build, it costs $899 and to build it yourself (buying all the parts) it'd be $855, and there's free shipping (in the US at least)

[muted viper]

thanks @fiery monolith

[sudden verge]

Incacerated this kidrobot munny in my h700i gonna do laser etched glass design as well as case artwork as a tester. Don't laff at the 4th gen in there hah its a i7 4790k over clocked to 4.7ghz handles all the adobe programs (they are not set up to use cpu, ram or fpu fully)

[pulsar fossil]

Holy moly an ultra wide is really wide

[chilly edge]

looks like you just stretched discord horizontally more than vertically

https://imgur.com/Cfb3koG

[lilac marten]

or just drag it over two monitors

[tropic hollow]

or just be a normiie

[tropic notch]

Or be mobile lol

[pulsar fossil]

:D

I'll share a pic later when my desk isn't as much of a mess

It's an ultrawide from Samsung

32:9, so pretty much "just" two regular 1080p screens in one

[lilac marten]

I'd love an ultrawide but for a 144hz one they get pricey

[pulsar fossil]

This is 144hz

About $1200 in Denmark

For this one

[lilac marten]

yeah that is pricey

I paid £200 for each of my monitors

they've got quite slim bezels so I can pretend its an ultrawide 😢

[pulsar fossil]

This one is only a loaner sadly

[lilac marten]

what size one is it? is it the ridiculously big 49 inch one they do?

I mean I have two 24.5 inch monitors but as one unit that is massive

[pulsar fossil]

Yeah, 49" @lilac marten

[muted viper]

@tropic hollow is that apple...

[pulsar fossil]

@muted viper yes :)

[muted viper]

why hath thou betrayed us ?

[pulsar fossil]

Pssch.. There's nothing wrong with using MacOS

[muted viper]

if its on a mac there is

if you hackintosh then its cool

but not on the mac itself

[pulsar fossil]

Don't be a hater, that's silly :)

[muted viper]

what

i dont hate him i just hate the apple tax

[pulsar fossil]

In some cases I'd call it a MacOS tax

And in some cases? It's worth it

[muted viper]

what cases tho?

[pulsar fossil]

They've made some fantastic laptops

I'm not a huge fan of their newer ones

[muted viper]

that throttle like crazy

[pulsar fossil]

But the MacBook Pro I have is seriously one of the best laptops I've ever used

It doesn't throttle

That's a problem with the newer ones :)

[muted viper]

oh

yeah

[pulsar fossil]

The Apple tv is amazing

[muted viper]

?

[pulsar fossil]

I use mine a lot

[muted viper]

fire TV/ android something-or-other-TV

[pulsar fossil]

I have an american iTunes account and use it for tv shows and movies

I way prefer the Apple TV

But that's just me :)

[muted viper]

could use steam link even

[pulsar fossil]

Hah

Nah

[muted viper]

yes

[pulsar fossil]

I have one. Never used it :D

[muted viper]

lol

[pulsar fossil]

I need a box that can give 4k and HDR

[muted viper]

i got one during a sale

[pulsar fossil]

Sleek interface and a nice design with a good remote

[muted viper]

about 5 USD

[pulsar fossil]

Apple TV ticks all those boxes for me

Yeah, I got mine pretty cheap too

[muted viper]

funny how much steam pulls you in with their sales

[pulsar fossil]

Not me anymore

I hardly buy anything during sales anymore

[muted viper]

yeah

i just bought rust the other day because it was on sale steam still has a hold on me

goodbye money

[pulsar fossil]

:D

[muted viper]

my wallet has less than 10 USD in it because of steam summer sales and my new PC 😄

well i have a bit more saved away, but you get the picture

[muted viper]

@pulsar fossil

obviously a cat

thats how it works right

[pulsar fossil]

That was the joke

[muted viper]

ik lol

[muted viper]

@winged parrot

would seem to be working again

you got your lvls back

and i have my measly 3

[tropic hollow]

that's bs

kush was literally level 10 a week ago what the hell

[chilly edge]

I think i was like

level 9

but now i'm level 4

wtf

[burnt badge]

could have something to do with the grand prix badge

i know alot of people was exploiting i was one of them lol

[chilly edge]

yeah

my friend was doing it

[burnt badge]

i havent lost my levels yet so fingers crossed lol

went from 16 to 29 just by playing starbound and drinking sodas then exchanging points for the badge

[spare elk]

you peeps prefer amd or intel?

[burnt badge]

Intel if i wanna flex the money AMD if i wanna build something that saves me money

[odd spear]

everybody looves drinking sodas

[pulsar fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/wooh-dab-pixeltv-bjerrehuus-oliver-bjerrehuus-gif-14471183

[trail citrus]

Intel if i wanna flex the money AMD if i wanna build something that saves me money let me rephrase that, Intel if you wanna flex how much money you just spent on a (soon) inferior product and AMD if you wanna build something that is equal or better than competition for cheaper with less security flaws

[burnt badge]

^

you worded it much better @trail citrus

[winged parrot]

Yea

[burnt badge]

Pic of my rig (pic is a little dated have a 1660TI Evga XC ultra in there now and the cables were replaced with much cleaner looking black and gray)

[muted viper]

@burnt badge not with ZEN2

you can get the power without the price tag or so we've heard

@spare elk AMD all the way more so with ZEN2 release (iv always built budget PCs so amd is my friend)

but i will say both my CPU and GPU are amd atm 😄

[spare elk]

Same here @muted viper

[burnt badge]

My laptop is AMD powered and I have nothing against it. My desktop is Intel/Nvidia powered and I also have nothing against it

[fast jewel]

honestly i don't know enough about the AMD GPU ecosystem

[muted viper]

@fast jewel ima be honest with you i have the same problem

but reversed

i dont know enought about nvidia 😄

[muted viper]

@winged parrot

[fast jewel]

oh my god wait wait is that real oh my

[muted viper]

yes

its great

better game lol

[burnt badge]

people of culture in here

[muted viper]

what?

@burnt badge

[burnt badge]

im saying you guys are people of culture its a saying lol its like saying you have good taste

[muted viper]

ik but i guess that means you like rust lol

[burnt badge]

yes and pc building sim

[muted viper]

lol

[burnt badge]

its not the most accurate game but its cool building a pc here and there in it to get a feel

[sudden verge]

Anyone used V1 Tech for a RGB GPU back plate?

[sturdy drum]

I know it's a bit old but here it is

Arctis 3 / Rival 300 / Apex 150

And my GPU and CPU Specs are
NVIDIA geforce gtx 1050 TI / Ryzen 5 1600x

Here is my entire setup

[pulsar fossil]

Nice

[covert forum]

damn i ordered a pg27q off of amazon, because it was reduced to £350 from around £700

it seemed to good to be true

and well yeah it was

Even though it said the seller was asus

it was some scam company

f

[sturdy drum]

F

[tropic notch]

Holy shit

Ask your parents to buy me a PC, they'll probably get it @trail dew

[tropic notch]

Oh

I see

It's more of a luck thing than spoiled

[fast jewel]

lol i dont have anything that i can sell thats worth more than $50

my entire pc is worth $75 total

[median tangle]

any reasons i can tell my mom why she should let me buy myself a pc with my own money?

[fast jewel]

because it doesn't cost her

lol

[muted viper]

@fast jewel realy lol

[blissful robin]

Arctic Pro + some 4 mouse and tablet

[hybrid notch]

Nice spaghet 😂 🍝

No Steelseries stuff at the moment but ohwell

[chilly edge]

oooo ISO keyboard

me likey

wait, why does that have ISO enter but ANSI left shift

[hybrid notch]

Dunno. So far all my keyboards had it to be honest. I mainly use my Corsair K95 tho but this was a give away from Logitech

[chilly edge]

It's probably just the keyboard layout for your country

here in the UK, the left shift is split into 2 keys

[muted viper]

what @chilly edge ?

how

do you have any pictures of what you mean?

[chilly edge]

from a keyboard discord, https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/443851583546195980/597041707221254144/IMG_20190706_132319_0.jpg?width=576&height=432 the Left shift, instead of being 2.25u (1u = the size of a letter key), it's a 1.25u shift and a 1u backslash key

[muted viper]

wow

im sorry for you man

[magic hamlet]

uh, my specs hmm

well they are kind of fine, I guess

Intel i7-8550U clocked at 1.8 GHz, Intel UHD 620 graphics

it's a laptop with a monitor hooked up to it

8 GB ram

not much else to share about it

[tropic notch]

My specs are

[chilly edge]

small left shift is fine

it makes it hilarious when people using ANSI complain about the shift key

[fast jewel]

wait @magic hamlet 1.8ghz?

:0

[magic hamlet]

yeah

@fast jewel

why? is that rare or something?

[muted viper]

OHHHHHHH

@magic hamlet yes

my CPU is lower end amd summit ridge (first gen ryzen chips) and its base clock is 3.20ghz

seems to be in some power saving thing tho lol

[magic hamlet]

my cpu doesn't stay at 1.8 GHz though

most of the time when playing games or doing tasks it jumps to at least 2.6 GHz

[muted viper]

ahh

still death to U SKUs

[fast jewel]

Seems kinda odd that that's its base speed

obviously it goes higher but mine is rated 2.66 and its waaaaaay low end

[muted viper]

probably an extremely portable laptop lol

for more power efficiency

@chilly edge is that an illuminati escape key?

[chilly edge]

maybe

[muted viper]

what is that

too shiny

[jagged sinew]

It's not righ

[pulsar fossil]

I'm using the same CPU :D

[burnt badge]

@pulsar fossil

[pulsar fossil]

[burnt badge]

not a fan of virtualization i see

[pulsar fossil]

It's a new PC at work and I haven't had a use for it yet :)

It's just the default setting

[burnt badge]

ooooohhhh i see

very good choose on the processor

wish my work would do that instead we have a good ole i3 3rd gen

[pulsar fossil]

HP made the choice :D

It's an Omen prebuilt machine

Dang

[burnt badge]

ooo bet its a beast

[pulsar fossil]

It's pretty good

It's rocking a RTX 2080

But "just" 16GB RAM

[burnt badge]

thats incredible!

im using the 1660TI atm cause im a budgeter but i will say the 1660TI is an incredible card

[pulsar fossil]

Nice

[lilac marten]

I use the 1660ti too, great card, much better than the 770 I upgraded from 😂

[pulsar fossil]

Time to try out a new laptop

[sour mason]

Ladys and Gentlemans I present you my new mouse

Yee haw

[strong pewter]

🤠

[pulsar fossil]

Congrats @sour mason

It's a great mouse

[sour mason]

It is not great,this mouse is the meaning of glory!😂

It is way better than my old mouse,the G502

Nice mouse👌

[manic cove]

Okay sooo im pretty new with building pcs etc... Is this (1100 euro ish) build alright? https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/mwnZtg . I want to take the MSI Radeon RX 5700 graphics card, it wasn't listed. I didnt took a cooler because the cpu already has one included. Please correct me if something is wrong :).

[chilly edge]

That's only 800 Euros

And i would also get some higher speed memory

case fans too

[sour mason]

this moment when you realize he uses dollar

[chilly edge]

no reason he would use dollar if his link contains NL, Netherlands.

[manic cove]

I could't see the video card I wanted, the Msi radeon rx 5700. It is around 390 euros

So I will hit around 1100 euros

But besides the price etc. Would it be a good build? Or are there better options to take?

[chilly edge]

Uhh, i'd probably get a different case and maybe a better power supply

but definitely get case fans.

[manic cove]

Okay I will try and go for 600watt then

Someone else reccomended me to get more fans if I want to overclock, but I don't want to

Do I still need more fans?

[chilly edge]

I was more thinking 650W 80+ Gold or so

and yeah, you always want case fans

[manic cove]

Okayy, thanks for the info!

[pulsar fossil]

@chilly edge so... amd ryzen 9 3900x or i9 9900k?

Can't figure out which to go with

Ryzen seems obvious for a pc that will also be used for editing/streaming

[chilly edge]

hmm

personally i think ryzen is cooler, but it depends what you're doing

[pulsar fossil]

But Intel has nice acceleration for video export

I'll be using it for gaming, streaming and editing video

[pulsar fossil]

Well well well

[noble oak]

thoughts?

[chilly edge]

What will you be doing with that PC?

[dark linden]

@pulsar fossil is a fake chart...

has been alreadyt confirmed as fake

Intel lovers are burning right now 😂

[pulsar fossil]

Oh dang. Thanks

[dark linden]

@noble oak the Tomahawk has not enough VRM to make that 3900x boost properly...I would go for a Crosshair VII X470 with that CPU, or I would just buy a 3700X which is a solid performer.
Also wait for AIB Radeon 5700, it already outperforms the RTX 2060 but that stock blower fan is no-good.

[noble oak]

i think i am going with the 3700x

[sour mason]

Hey guys I have a question,who have the Arctis Pro + GameDAC?

[nimble crescent]

can someone send me a pc around 500 to 600 euro

euros

[muted viper]

like a link @nimble crescent ?

[nimble crescent]

@muted viper what?

[muted viper]

like PCPP

[nimble crescent]

yeah

[chilly edge]

what country?

[nimble crescent]

greece

[chilly edge]

not sure what prices are in greece, there isn't a PCpartpicker for it

[nimble crescent]

yea i know

[sour mason]

Hey guys I have a question,who have the Arctis Pro + GameDAC?

Because I have a problem and i wanna know if it is normal for Arctis pro + GameDAC user

My cable is always twisting and get broken

[main flicker]

This happend recently and I’m pretty pissed about it.

Rival 600

[chilly edge]

there's enough glue to stick it back on

[sour mason]

i hate you all

I ask a question:no one is reacting

someone other ask an question:instant react

[main flicker]

it happens to me too drikend

a LOT

[noble oak]

rma the mouse

[chilly edge]

Sounds like a cable issue more than anything

and i didn't even see your question, let alone do i have a Game DAC

[sour mason]

ok

[main flicker]

@noble oak What is “rma”?

[noble oak]

A return merchandise authorization, return authorization or return goods authorization is a part of the process of returning a product to receive a refund, replacement, or repair during the product's warranty period.

[main flicker]

so a warranty?

[dark sand]

finally its done

9700k delid hehe not much but 5 degrees c lower i love it

[noble oak]

@dark sand looking good

is that case from a mac?

[dark sand]

yes its an old power mac.

https://abload.de/gallery.php?key=sM4awvqt

here you have working log, before the x299 went in, a 1150 based system was installed

[sour mason]

GLORY!

My new setup is säxy

[chilly edge]

Razer keyboard bleh

[sour mason]

Ik

But it was 77€

And it has options mechanical switches

But the other things👌🏻

[noble oak]

77€ seems a lot

Especially for a shitty keyboard

You could've bought anything

The ducky one 2s mini is a $100

[tropic notch]

There's some $50 60% mechanicals on Amazon 🤷‍♂️

[noble oak]

@sour mason nice keyboard ! Nice peripherals. Razer microphone is stylish too

[velvet summit]

My headset is the arctis 3 2019 edition

[dark sand]

ola

can anyone tell me, where you can see in the 3d mark how much mhz the memory of the gpu effectively ran with?

[naive dune]

Hey! So I have been working this summer and effectively saving up money for my first pc build.

I need some tips on what the case should be and if my parts would fit in it

I do have every other part but the case already decided, however, I am willing to change out the GPU for something less.

I do have the pcpartpicker link if anyone would like to help

[chilly edge]

yeah, post the PCPP link

[naive dune]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/th3g8Y

@chilly edge

[chilly edge]

what willl you use the computer for @naive dune

[naive dune]

I believe to game with good efficiency

But maybe down the line I might try to stream?

idk

All im saying is i need an upgrade

[chilly edge]

I'd skip the Hyper 212 Black edition cooler

the 2700X's stock cooler is fine

and then put that money into a better power supply

[naive dune]

Okay! So what about the case?

and do you think I should get an open case like the Thermaltake Core P90 or P5 , or one with tempered glass, or just no glass at all?

[spare elk]

marktplaats

[naive dune]

Pardon?

[chilly edge]

Whatever suits your taste, but tyr to have one with decent airflow.

Oh, and a PSU Shroud also looks good

[naive dune]

@chilly edge https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KmgzK8/seasonic-focus-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-550fm

Is this a better PSU?

[chilly edge]

I'd get a larger upgrade, like this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JfBrxr/corsair-txm-gold-750w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020131-na

[naive dune]

@chilly edge ok another question, should I make it rgb? and downgrade the GPU a little (I really dont mind) and get a nice looking case? maybe get liquid cooling?

[chilly edge]

Honestly, the stock cooler will do fine, and if you remove something to get a nicer case, you can remove 16gb of RAM. You only need 32gb if you're doing any sort of video editing or design work like 3d rendering.

[tropic notch]

So I'm looking into building my first within the next few months, and I have a flexible budget of $1000 and I already have a monitor and peripherals

And I will be using it mostly for gaming

@chilly edge maybe you can help?

[chilly edge]

yeah, sure

@tropic notch any preferences when it comes to the case?

[tropic notch]

Nope

Idrc for rgb

[chilly edge]

Tempered glass or anything?

[tropic notch]

I'd like a side with glass but it doesn't matter too much

[chilly edge]

Something like this should do fine https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8CjB8Y

[tropic notch]

Thank you @chilly edge

[chilly edge]

Wait, you could do with some case fans

[tropic notch]

🤔

[chilly edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kJvdpG added some RGB fans, but that might not be your thing

[tropic notch]

Thank you again lol

[naive dune]

@chilly edge What about 24gb of ram (:

[chilly edge]

No need

[naive dune]

So 16.. would that be enough to run minecraft ray tracing shaders?

[chilly edge]

Shaders are garbage, long live lightmaps

[naive dune]

Will it be enough to make it look good??

[chilly edge]

Yes I would think an 8c/16t CPU would be enough

[naive dune]

Soo

one last question

should I get different motherboard

[chilly edge]

Nah, the x470 master is good

[naive dune]

okie

Ok one secc

wait, does corsair make motherboards?

[chilly edge]

No. They make Power supplies, Cases, Fans and peripherals.

[tropic notch]

@chilly edge is a 1660 better than a 1070?

[naive dune]

I was wondering cuz then rgb would match up

[chilly edge]

1660Ti is roughly equivalent to a 1070Ti i believe

[tropic notch]

Hm

[naive dune]

(Im putting 1660ti in mine if u want u should too lmao)

@chilly edge what motherboard should i get for prettier rgb lol

actually i decided on no rgb

its cheaper and I can idk do other stuff with the money

[naive dune]

btw @chilly edge do i need any like cablemod or something?

[chilly edge]

no

[naive dune]

and does the ryzen come with thermal paste

?

[chilly edge]

Yes, the stock cooler has pre-applied paste.

[sour mason]

@noble oak shut up!

[noble oak]

Boi u just wasted monet

[novel summit]

I built my pc in march with i7-9700k and I am literally a bit annoyed now with these new amd cpus

[dark sand]

only my windowed sidepanel is missing

specs of the whole system:

i7 9700K @5,1ghz delided @1.31v Cache OC @4,8ghz
All Core daily 24/7 use 4,9ghz @ 1,3v Render-Game and AVX stable
Asus ROG Strix Z390-E
Corsair Vengeance 32GB @xmp 3000mhz cl15 hynix cooled by Vengeance Airflow
RTX 2080 Ti Asus ROG Strix - Samsung memory +1300mhz oc / 110mhz chip oc
Be Quiet Straight Power 11 650w
Noctua NH-U14S
Dell S2716DG 2560x1440p G-Sync 3D Vision
250GB SSD Crucial MX500 M.2 Sata
1TB SSD Samsung 860 Evo
500GB SSD Samsung 860 Evo
500GB SSD Samsung 970 Evo Plus - kryoM.2 PCIe 3.0 x4
8TB Seagate IronWolf Nas 7200rpm
Steelseries Rival 310
Steelseries QcK Edge Mousepad XXL
Steelseries Arctis 7 Headset
Corsair K70 RGB Cherry MX Red switches
Windows 10 Pro 64bit v1903
Corsair Carbide 200R

sadly the memory has hynix chips on it so over 3000mhz is not possible

[winged parrot]

hey guys i wanna make a gaming pc

i have 83.20 euros

what can i get

[dark sand]

ola

hmm not much u can get a used dell optiplex from ebay with a i7 2600

[winged parrot]

rlly

[dark sand]

invest a few euros for a used 1050ti and you are good to go

[winged parrot]

link

[dark sand]

yes really

[winged parrot]

well looks like its expensive

[dark sand]

what did u expect for 82€?

[winged parrot]

im just wondering

why do you guys build pcs

and not just get a good laptop instead

since PCs can't be taken everywhere

[dark sand]

why should i want a crappy laptop lol that cost double that i pay for a good pc

what is this questian about? lul

@winged parrot do the homework and search on ebay

[winged parrot]

cause i would buy a laptop right

for work

Since I must take the laptop places

and dell fps 13 with i7 would cost me about 1.8k

[dark sand]

you said gaming pc and then u started about asking for a laptop makes 0 sence

[winged parrot]

sense

[dark sand]

for gaming never a laptop

@winged parrot buy a laptop then x))

[winged parrot]

ah gaming

right

[dark sand]

yeah go for it

[chilly edge]

We buy and build PCs because we're mostly using it for gaming rather than say work

so we don't really need portability, and yeah, laptops are more expensive

[blissful robin]

@chilly edge we don't need it to be portable.

and btw can you guys help me to manage my pc. i would like to upgrade it.

[chilly edge]

Alright, im here

[blissful robin]

Intel core i7 8700k
Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB
Samsung SSD 970 evo 250 GB
ram 16 GB (Corsair Ram with 2 slot left)
Z370 A PRO
Thermaltake M 620W (Bronze)

Still feel like it's not worth it.

I have 3000$ to upgrade

[My idea]
Ryzen 9 3900x
GTX 1080 TI or 2060
Samsung SSD 1TB 970 PRO or 500 GB SSD Samsung 970 Evo Plus or both

[chilly edge]

8700k is still really solid

getting another drive is a good idea though

[blissful robin]

i see.

@chilly edge I am not very good at computer. so can you explain the different between Harddisk Solid States drive and M.2?

[chilly edge]

M.2 are smaller and faster

[dark sand]

is your i7 8700k oced?

[sour mason]

@noble oak boi you just wasted your life with hating me

[noble oak]

thats ok with me

i dont have anything to do

im playing minecraft

[tropic notch]

Hehe

[pulsar fossil]

Nice!

[noble oak]

Cheating on Steelseries 😦

[tropic notch]

@noble oak could you send me it to me to try it out, but it ends up being stuck in the mail on the way to you

[noble oak]

Awh 😦

I couldn't find any other Ducky's in my country

So I went for that

It has no arrows sadly...

Well it does but not fully

[tropic notch]

I want a ss tkl or a 60%

[noble oak]

ye the one I ordered is 60^%

brown swithces

[tropic notch]

Yea

[noble oak]

xd

[fast jewel]

ok i cant live without my numpad lol

[pulsar fossil]

Me neither

[fast jewel]

I dont use it consciously but once i use a TKL keyboard i notice that it's gone and its just weird

[plain lion]

I never liked the numpad. I am glad to have a TKL keyboard now.

[fast jewel]

wat

agree to disagree lol

[muted viper]

no numpad?

gee

[muted viper]

have to say

wow

[noble oak]

i dont like numpad either just cus it takes way too much space from the mouse to be comfortable to use

esp gaming ones with numpad dont make any sense since most of the time its still on the right side

and for low dpi gaming even tkl feels too big

[tropic notch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V8Nw9J

Is that a good build?

[naive dune]

From tips I have been given

1. get an ssd

for boot drive

and 2.

better power supply

(thanks for the tips Pachimaniac)

[tropic notch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8C77fH here's one with an ssd

[chilly edge]

i'd upgrade the PSU

[naive dune]

^ what he said and what i said before lmao

[fiery monolith]

Prolly would have to ask @chilly edge But if you are going to buy a wraith cooler separately, I would maybe recommend upgrading the CPU to the Ryzen 7 2700(x). Both the regular and the X both have pretty good coolers that come with them. @tropic notch

From a personal standpoint. The 2700x's cooler worked perfectly for me until I got my AIO. OC'ed to 4ghz on all cores just using the stock cooler it came wiht

The regular 2700 is currently $150 on newegg. While your ryzen 5 2600+ cooler is priced at $160

[chilly edge]

Oh and also look for prime day deals

[fiery monolith]

(2700x would be quite the upgrade in price being at 250ish)

^^

[chilly edge]

like the 2700x has come down in price to like $200

[fiery monolith]

Idk, your opinion on what I said pach>

?*

[chilly edge]

well

the wraith prism is absolutely fine for the 2700x

[fiery monolith]

Ive never used the 2700 cooler

I just see that $10 could be saved?

[muted viper]

@south valve

we are close

[south valve]

i aint nowhere close

[muted viper]

me and SirKaiwade

[chilly edge]

huh i'm #1

I'm not surprised, but i am surprised

[tropic notch]

@chilly edge how's this build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XtVpyX

[chilly edge]

Looks alright, but those case fans look like rip-offs

and so does the HDD

Also you can buy Windows 10 from SCPkey for much cheaper

And i'd pick up this SeaSonic powersupply (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WrNypg/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-650fx) for a bit cheaper than the EVGA one

[naive dune]

@tropic notch u might as well get a seagate barracuda 2tb HDD instead of urs, the seagate is cheaper and the exact same pretty much

[tropic notch]

👍

[fast jewel]

waitwaitwait ryzen 2700x is only $200?

[chilly edge]

yeah

same for 3600

[fast jewel]

d a n g

[blissful robin]

@chilly edge if you don't mind I would like to ask information about Dual Core

[chilly edge]

@blissful robin unfortunately, i was sleeping.
I'm going to assume Dual Core processors though

[blissful robin]

@chilly edge Yes..

is fine tho.

Yeah i want to ask about using 2 CPU in the same PC

[chilly edge]

oh, 2 CPUs

It's uhh

What it sounds like

[blissful robin]

@chilly edge Dual Processor

Multi-core

Like Dual Processor motherboard

which put in 2 CPU like Core i9 and Ryzen 9 in like that

[chilly edge]

It's...

You have 2 processors

...

Most likely won't be 1:1 performance scaling for each added processor though

[noble oak]

Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i5 @ 2.80GHz 28 °C
Coffee Lake 14nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1332MHz (19-19-19-43)
Motherboard
Micro-Star International Co. Ltd. Z370-A PRO (MS-7B48) (U3E1) 32 °C
Graphics
VA2719-2K (2560x1440@59Hz)
DELL 1704FPT (1280x1024@60Hz)
3071MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB (MSI) 31 °C
Storage
465GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO M.2 500GB (SSD) 27 °C
1863GB TOSHIBA DT01ACA200 (SATA) 29 °C
14GB Generic Mass-Storage USB Device (USB)

[chilly edge]

Don't undwerstand what that's meant to mean but the Latency on that ram is attrocious

it's what you'd expect from 3600MHz, let alone 2666

[fast jewel]

lol i upgraded my ram

its 800mhz now :)

my mobo cant take any amd cpus or any intel cpus newer than the core 2 quad :,)

[noble oak]

how much ram does anyone really need?

[pulsar fossil]

I prefer 32GB for certain workloads

[pulsar fossil]

i9-9900k or Ryzen 9 3900X for a brand new system. Would AMD be worth the wait?

[chilly edge]

What'll it be used for

[pulsar fossil]

Gaming, single-pc streaming and Adobe programs (PP, AE)

[chilly edge]

i think intel's slightly better at all of those, but personally for me, it's always AMD

[muted viper]

what

i thought AMD was always better with streaming and productivity

[pulsar fossil]

Interesting

[chilly edge]

I think Adobe has favoured intel for a while, but yeah AMD has insane multicore for workloads

and if you use NVENC/GPU encoder for streaming everything should be fine

[muted viper]

what

[pulsar fossil]

I'll most likely be using GPU encoding '

[muted viper]

12c/24t CPU and he needs gpu encoding?

[chilly edge]

CPU encoding can be annoying

[muted viper]

i guess

my little dualcore laptop cried when i made it record

my hexacore r5 was happy to record

[novel summit]

Just get i9 my dudeee 😎

Both will get you the job done

[muted viper]

why are you the way that you are

@novel summit

[fast jewel]

Honestly I've never gone above 8gb of use for anything (3d renders, photoshop, premiere, AE, etc)

disclaimer though i doubt all of my ram works anyway lol

[muted viper]

discord + minecraft + 2-5 crome tabs?

😄

@fast jewel

[novel summit]

IDK

but intel sounds nicer and you get that nice boxing

[muted viper]

what

the 9900x is getting some nice packaging i think

@fast jewel wait isnt your PC the "worth less than $50" one?

[novel summit]

yeah nice packaging

[muted viper]

lazy me using XMP 😄

@novel summit meant the Ryzen 9 3900X not the 9900k

got the names mixed up

amd is easier to remember

[novel summit]

my mem is at 3200

[muted viper]

yeah

mine was 3000

but top XMP profile is 2933

[muted viper]

so me lazy

[fast jewel]

@muted viper yeah lol

oh my god i take that back

minecraft uses 9gb of ram wtf

[muted viper]

told ya

[fast jewel]

ok why is that the most resource intensive thing i have ever run in my life what

[vernal ledge]

render distance maybe

[fast jewel]

its on the main menu lol

[muted viper]

thats just how it is

[fast jewel]

lol may need to set a limit on that

[minor onyx]

You probably set the launcher to use 9Gb

[pulsar fossil]

Not as clean as I'd like. But I'm getting there

[lilac marten]

that monitor is amazing

[pulsar fossil]

It is. And it's huuuge

49"

[lilac marten]

does it feel much more immersive than a flat normal size monitor?

[pulsar fossil]

It def does add to the experience

[lilac marten]

maybe if i win the lottery 😂 dont think my pc could run a game well enough to take advantage of that anyway

[pulsar fossil]

That's the other thing

It helps to play with a RTX 2080

[lilac marten]

yeah i've got a 1660ti which is brilliant for 1080p 144hz gaming but anymore than that and I think it may struggle

[pulsar fossil]

And this screen is basically just 2x1080p

[fast jewel]

@minor onyx Nope its a fresh optifine install

lol my pc can barely handle the desktop at 1080p60 let alone that lol

Looks really nice tho

[muted viper]

@fast jewel optifine auto configures your ram to a higher amount

i think its a multiple of how much you have

[muted viper]

@rich obsidian, you got your work cut out lol

jk

[rich obsidian]

I wonder how much they paid for it this time

[pulsar fossil]

Shots fired

:D

[muted viper]

lol

[fast jewel]

lol

[uneven hornet]

boom the parcel and landed 💣 💥

[tropic hollow]

@uneven hornet dude you went all out, that's awesome!!

why the rival 500 just outta curiousity?

[fast jewel]

l u c k y

[uneven hornet]

@tropic hollow thanks m8 its pukka and i don't really know why i have it only just got in to pc gaming and fort i could do with the extra buttons lol

[fast jewel]

Honestly I bought the Naga from Razer with the thumb grid and found that I prefer only two or three side buttons

in the case of SS 2 is enough because no sniper button

[dense crystal]

I’m aware tho

I hate sniper buttons omg, I once had a Corsair m65 and it was obnoxious

[naive dune]

@uneven hornet nice arctis pro accessory I have the same one !

[fast jewel]

@dense crystal ? I love them

I used to have a g502 and that was literally the only thing i liked about it

Photoshop aint fun at 2000 dpi

[spice tusk]

I wanted the apex pro TKL keyboard but it drops until late September so I just copped the apex 7 TKL

[pulsar fossil]

The Apex 7 is pretty nice

I'm using the non-tkl version. Gotta have that numpad

[tropic notch]

What switches are good for the 7?

[pulsar fossil]

Depends on your preference I'd say

[tropic notch]

Yeah I'm not great with that stuff lol

[pulsar fossil]

For what it's worth I think only the one with red switches is available now

[fast jewel]

Tbh I like reds

Takes some getting used to but I just prefer the feel

[uneven hornet]

@naive dune thanks m8 . They look mint when on

[lone narwhal]

is this a good starter pc and do I have every thing

[tropic notch]

@lone narwhal you need a gpu, probably don't need 32 gb of ram and you could probably upgrade the cpu with that $70 you're saving from removing 16 gb

[lone narwhal]

thank you

[noble oak]

@lone narwhal the list is pretty bad. I'd go for a third gen ryzen like the 3600, remove the liquid cooler since it's known for leaking, remove the extra 16 gb of ram, probs go for the msi b450 pro mobo, a team lite l5 ssd, and a CX corsair psu.

also the 3200g doesn't need a gpu in order to output video.

and you should definitely join the pcpartpicker discord since they can help put a list together probs better than I can.

and on top of that some extra info the 3200g and 3600 come with stock coolers and you would need to do a bios update with the third gen ryzen.

[tropic notch]

@noble oak yo toss some of that my way I need that shit

[noble oak]

@tropic notch wdymmm

Btw get brown switches

[tropic notch]

@noble oak a monitor and pc

[noble oak]

Oh xd

[spice tusk]

Anybody’s mouse pad also do this? It like dies down at the end it’s only bright near the connector is this a faulty one?

[chilly edge]

@lone narwhal
I would Pick up an SSD
Remove 16gb of RAM and the Liquid Cooler
Make sure the RAM you're getting is 3200MHz or above
And get a better case and some case fans with the money you save.

Alternatively, i can try make a parts list with a Graphics card

if i get your budget

[waxen needle]

2700x, 2060 gaming z, 16gb 3.2ghz cl14 vengence pro rgb, mp510 480gb, b450 tomahawk, h500, cx550

[chilly edge]

That icy blue looks nice

[waxen needle]

thanks

[chilly edge]

Hmm

your name, there was a keycap set designer with a similar name

MiTo i think he was.

[waxen needle]

yeah ik

i dont like his caps tho, i would rather have the hyperX doubleshots

they are too expensive iirc

[pulsar fossil]

What do you mean? They are less than $20

[waxen needle]

mito caps?

[pulsar fossil]

hyperx

[waxen needle]

oh

i was talking about mito ones lol

[pulsar fossil]

ohhh..

[waxen needle]

i might get the hyperx ones today

only $18

[noble oak]

@waxen needle cleannn xd

@waxen needle Can u send an link for the caps

[waxen needle]

my caps?

they are just stock phantom 87 caps

[noble oak]

ft. the best position possible for a keyboard

a less neck breaking angle

i5 7500 @3.6GHz
MSI GTX 1070 8GB ITX Aero
16GB DDR4 @3200mhz (Corsair Vengence LPX Black)

[waxen needle]

ayy my pc is in the picture

[noble oak]

huh

[tropic hollow]

@waxen needle lemmee get that wallpaper

[waxen needle]

search up "Tokyo Desktop" on youtube, and i believe it is the first link in the description @tropic hollow

https://m.imgur.com/r/wallpapers/GY8Rg8f

found the link

[pulsar fossil]

Nice :)

[serene forum]

been building a new pc over the past few months, First gen ryzen 7 , not the best. but still pretty solid imo. My old pc was an i7 3820 and a 670, so this is a pretty good upgrade if you ask me.