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it'd be more suspicious to see me in Word than in-game
ish.. not the same result @fervent igloo
@mellow nymph ahahah
its not a hall effect switch
@stark rampart what about allocating each macro to an animation on sse
Are they analog switches or optical?
yeah
@real frost analog
But i do believe some Hall effect switches and such use magnets
what about the bloody laser blaster keyboard and the apex one, cuz they be competing now
and omnipoint is magnets/electrical if you will
you ,mean the "Bloody Light Strike" or whatever
yes
any SS keyboards that are pressure sensitive? do they even work in games? 
And those magnets trigger the keypress, I assume.
dont care, they got the fastest switches at the moment
i want to see if apex beat those
There's probably stuff like Ace Pad Tech hall effect that hasnt been tested or somethhing
@frank kestrel unfortunately no pressure sensitive switches
@frank kestrel I don't think any OSes have the concept of pressure sensitive keyboard buttons. They're either actuated or not
@real frost correct and you can set at what point that happens
via software its possible @mellow nymph
thats how xbox/any controller with the adjustable triggers work
yeh, saw it being done with auto hotkey before but it's kinda buggy in some games afaik
it's built-in to the XInput spec though
it's not built-in to the keyboard spec or into the OS implementation of it
maybe one day
so sure, you could technically have them, but the only things that would register them as pressure sensitive would be the things made by the devs you paid to use your special API
as the wu tang have said - cash rules everything around me
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i want some fax with that fastest keyboard statement, thats my opinion
me too, i'm always skeptical of stuff like that because there is only so much you can do to a switch to make it "faster" and usually it just means lighter actuation force and shorter actuation distance
Yep, I want that Apex Pro TKL ๐ now...to save ๐
Still goin to get myself a custom keyboard
@fervent igloo the superior choice always ๐
must say from a design standpoint it's pretty clean, but i always prefer high profile cases
@native ravine Million dollar idea; pressure sensitive mouse buttons; the harder you press the more damage you do
someday we'll hook straight up to your neurons and response time will be measured in time before your fingers would have been able to move
o.o
well, its better if you remove the human component, cuz then there would be no delay (no additional problems)
it was a promo video for new keeb
you can check your recent @ mentions by the top right @ symbol
huh, what about the durability of the magnets?
magnets aint that durable when smashed against eachother or other objects
the magnets aren't making contact
oh, they are just getting the magnetic field readings?
yes
you wouldn't be able to adjust the actuation if there was actual physical contact
there should be a warning then, cuz some people work with ferromagnetic shiz, like with small parts or in a workshop
the small metallic pieces could disturb the switch things
I'm really happy for you, I'mma let you finish, but SteelSeries has the fastest keyboard of all time! Fastest keyboard of all time!!!
@spare hound you have fax with that printer?
don't question Kanye
Never
hey man, im just lookin for the comparison between THE fastest keyboards.
And one of them has just been announced
@hexed shore
so you'll have to wait a little longer
your facts^
that's the blog - not the /apex page (unsure if you read that too yet - but tons of info)
yea, i looked at that, three times now.
double checked if it was the same thing as i read
light based switches are also p fast
I for one welcome our new APEX gods and look forward to serving them.
interesting
Leaves for lots of desk room to move my mouse
Sounds like a difficult technique to master
And with a QcK Prism and no keyboard in the way, I can 360 for days. Tony Hawk's got nothing on me.
Is the wrist rest synthetic leather or something?
wow
Wow, that black woodgrain look phenomenal.
that's pretty nice
OH SNAP! You are also releasing a TKL version. 
not tkl > tkl
I like the big ones, too but a lot of people like the compacts
alot of ppl like desk space, but i personally prefer a numpad
Sounds like non-TKL mischief, to me.
I'm going to get a 65% keyboard
yes
I cannot go without numpad
out of habit i reach for my numpad when typing numbers
I'll have my hand go to tap the enter button
buy a separate one
And it just isnt there
65 keyboards aren't my jam
for when i needed it
Madness
^
Plus smaller keyboard means less switches needed
like i said i reach for the numpad most time i type a number so getting out of that habit would be pretty hard
I normally just use the number row at the top
true, because they're closer together
and i do an online math program so number typing speed is important ๐
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you can remove everything after the .html
like where did you learn how to shorten links?
Knowledge from the MKUK community
lol like removing ref= from amazon links
i posted a really long AliE link and they told me that you can delete everything after the .html
yeah
Ya, I like numpads purely for typing numbers as well. Having a TKL with a numpad periph that I can move out of the way is not a terrible idea, at all.
and if I ever needed function keys, i'd just buy a Macro pad
@dense trellis has been warned
reason: Posted a link
Which function keys you talking about? TKL keeps the print screen, etc keys.
i've only looked at keyboard stuff and SteelSeries Asia exclusive mice like the 106 and 300S
Like, the F-keys
it was mechanicalkeyboards . com link @fervent igloo
oh, alright
ya, F keys are on TKL
300s isnt asian exclusive??
Maybe I am misundeerstanding something
I'm getting a 65%, so i won't have the F-keys
ohh gotcha
https://imgur.com/NLlxGt8
yea, so if I did need F keys for whatever reason, i'd buy a macro pad
Wow, that looks so weird to me. haha
Looks like that fell OFF a keyboard
"Hey, has anyone seen my QWERTY set? It fell of again."
haha. ya, I feel ya
I wonder if you could play games with no keyboard and JUST a numberpad and a Rival 500 for extra buttons. Typing, be damned.
Now we're talking DESK SPACE
I've never been one to not appreciate a good meme
Annnndddddddd
EVGA just announced a new keyboard
Only blue/brown switches
some macro keys
and stuff like that
also a display
So these Apex Pro switches are optical switches?
Wow, reading about these new APEX switches, holy crap. You can adjust each key, individually for sensitivity, if you want. Guess this could make WASD super-sense but reduce the sense of other things around it so you don't accidentally press Q and fire off something. Hall Effect keys, too. Man.
magnetic switches it seems
Ya, I use Hall Effect sensors in what I do, a lot. They are really handy and they can be very tiny and extremely accurate. Awesome to see them used in a keyboard this way.
You can even use Hall Sensors to measure distance. Could even be used as pressure sense or throttle in some instances. Would be interesting to see if anything like that is ever implemented (or useful).
@fervent igloo dont u have F keys at fn+number?
programmable?
btw rival 300s is kinda bad
@hexed shore @spare hound it's not hall effect sensors in Apex Pro
the new apex keyboards look great
It isn't? It talks about using the Hall Effect
problem is I already have a m750 that I have no issues with lol
so I can't actually justify buying a new one ๐ฆ
What is the Hall Effect it's talking about in the adjustable switches write-up? It says it uses magnetic fields and references the Hall effect
Oh it's an OmniPoint that uses Hall Effect then
I'm a noob
and had misunderstood something about hall effect sensors
it IS a hall effect sensor
sorry @stark rampart and enjoy @spare hound :D
Yooo new keyboards
omg
my bad man
but dude
apex pro and apex 7
o gooood :C
sexy asf
time for a changeeeee
good bye apex m800
since the space bar and enter key is kinda broken
after all these years of use
I was going to buy the m750 but good thing I waited long enough
it has been hard not talking about them up to now
Meanwhile in pachi land people got bored of my keyboard talk
like
my first gear was the rival 100 then came the V2's then V3 Prismblack
then
rival 700
rival 300 giveaway winner
then rival 310 (broken due to double click issues and worn out rubber sides)
Did you try breathing into the buttons
if the steelseries community in my country is as big as in the US and other countries
but hekk
Best steam game upto 15ยฃ?
Preference
best in what terms? raw entertainment? entertainment per hour per dollar?
are you a shooter fan, a platformer fan, etc.
it's a pretty hard question to answer without any context
gungeon is great as well
yo
@native ravine ok, cool. Thanks for the clarification :D
fix arctis 7 2019 mic plsss
What's wrong with it @surreal skiff?
microphone picks up all the sounds in the room. Noise reduction does not work
support ticket #613854
Only a handful here work for SteelSeries
arctis 3 2017 mic works fine
nothing
What do you mean @surreal skiff?
@stark rampart I wrote in support on the site on January 16, since there is no solution to the problem
@surreal skiff I don't work for SteelSeries, so I can't say much else than try again
@stark rampart โ
@surreal skiff has been warned
reason: Posted a link
ahhhhhh heeelp meeeee.... i can't play Aim Master. Chrome goes in a completely white fullscreen when i press start game?!
Have you tried a different web browser?
Has anyone been playing SplitGate?
want an apex pro but cant support it because i JUST BOUGHT new fpv goggles :(
Although it's mostly for looks... I love the switches on my m750
Sorry @vital tendon, @fervent igloo is right. No advertisements please :)
?
not until you ask it
how do i use the image sync app in steelseries
- have a per-key-illuminated steelseries keyboard
- upload an animated GIF to the app
- turn on the app
i have the apex 150 keyboard will that work?
no , sorry, that has 10 lighting zones but it's not per-key
Does anyone know if the nimbus with be upgraded with L3/R3 in the near future?
@torn ore what keyboard is that
@stray axle has been warned
reason: Posted a link
@stray axle dm if you have too
@stray axle oh
@raven patio Apex pro
230 eur
For pro
question i have the
apex 750m what switches do they use
so when i buy the pro i would kinda like the same
If they release a white version I will buy it as soon as I get the money
It would fit well with my setup
@torn ore when does it release
in the US
or is the trade laws affecting it or does steelseries make there stuff out side of china?
@raven patio the Apex m750 uses the QX2 switches which are an improved/modified version of the Gateron RED switches. The Apex Pro will use the OmniPoint switches which are analog magnetic switches. HardwareCanucks made a preview and says that at standard setup they really feel like smother and more linear QX2 switches, but you can adjust the actuation point anyway you like, this will fine-tune the feeling to what you think suits best for you. The spring force should be of 0.45cF which is really similar to the spring used in the QX2 (if not the same).
Also...SteelSeries is a european company, the trade ban doesn't affect their business (at least and for now)
@jade tartan oh okay thanks well i didnt know if they got any of their parts from china so thats why i asked becuase its not just a ban on trade but really anything made from china parts
but sweet ill be buying it then asap it lets me buy now
i love steelseries and i have every one of there items really from keyboards and mouse bungies
to bad they dont make a webcam id buy that too
I think that for now the trade ban is limited to some companies which work with networking and smartphone industry, not all of the chinese companies have been blacklisted ๐
keyboard will for sure be available for US as well, no worries!
Well I'd love a Large QCK Prism more than anything else at the moment...maybe it will be out in the future ๐
I have a question, I would like to purchase an Apex M750 TKL. But what language do I select to get it in the Qwerty layout?
Ah, thank you very much!
Today is a good day 
I wish it was for me
I'm in London to play Doom Eternal and Wolfenstein Young Blood

Heyyy im glad @stark rampart :) dont let hitting a bird ruin it like me ๐
if you want to drive 4 hours you can come visit me
How was Young Blood tho?
im trying to fix my brothers PC
some weird Driver crap is going on, keeps blackscreening on a certain driver
I'm good but thanks for the offer @fervent igloo
@tawny basin I haven't played yet :)
Who cares about doom
@finite saffron has been warned
reason: Posted a link
Pokemon Shirts for the win!
Oh ok ok! Youll have to tell me all about it!
Yeah but today is Pokemon hype day ๐
I would link to the shirt, but mee6 just warned me so..
Why can you? ๐ฎ
I'm awesome
being mod has its perks I suppose
O.o
@stark rampart where are you?! O___O
@jade tartan London :)
Jeez! The European QuakeCon?
can i get mech and titan in the USA ?
@jade tartan no, it's a closed event for press :)
@dense trellis I believe it's currently UK only
where can i ask a simple question about the qck prism xxl with a photo?
You can ask here, but SteelSeries support might give a better answer
Hello I have a problem with the steelseries game dac me it always throws out of my sound settings and when I reconnect it is again hel
hrlp*
help*
go to support...
when the ss engine 3.14.5.9 is out? (reference to pi)
is there a way to set dpi shift in the steelseries software
there should be, like there should be a dial or whatever
@verbal remnant check #๐ป-building-a-pc for the picture, i cannot link here anythin
I've just been looking at the arctis pro (second hand, refurbished) not sure what exactly it comes with nor how to use it with a PS4 slim, if I even can, however I do have an audio out from my monitor if that's of any use which I've found to be quite useful from the last 20-30 minutes of research I've done
Any help?
Yo,
My transmitter isn't working on my version 10.11.6 OS X El Capitan Macbook,
Whenever i plug it,
it just flashes for one second
(Arctis 7)
I haven't damaged anything.
I haven't even had it for more than half a year.
Anyone help me out?
lol
I have pressed the button to magically deliver you a free keyboard even though they're not even in stock yet
you should have it in front of you
if you don't, I guess the button is broken
anyone help the poor person with a failing arctis 7
dual ping but ok
i wish that was a thing though
pressing the dpi button just to start sniping
just seems like too much

The Rival 106 was the one which looked like a Kana, am I right? It didn't have any side grip...it was just matte plastic on the sides...
thats not what they asked....
JHunz I got it off of amazon because it was cheaper than on the Steelseries website.
@high steppe what did it ask? It is asking for the feet and calls them grip it is not my fault...nut the Rival 106 has no grips from my memory and the photos I see on Google, so how can anyone give him a size for something which doesn'e exist? ๐ I am trying to understand and being of help
@echo kettle which one did you buy?
Apex M750 @jade tartan
hes asking for the width of the area you grip
@high steppe which is the side of the mouse because that mouse has no dedicated grip area...
@short widget length: 123mm width: 67mm height: 41.5mm
For more info check the Steelseries Kana reviews online because the shape is identical! ๐
@echo kettle nice one, my desk agrees! ๐
does kana and kinzu v3 have same shape?
I don't think so
@high steppe the Kinzu v3 should be bigger (more like a Sensei Raw)
Thanks, but that's the width of the back not where the fingers touch. I've looked at reviews but none included measurements
Just consider ~3mm less and no more than those. It's a classical Sensei shape but smaller and that was the variation in width between the back and the grip point...
I am more oriented to tell you around 2/2.5mm less rather than 3mm...
Just consider ~3mm less and no more than those. It's a classical Sensei shape but smaller and that was the variation in width between the back and the grip point...
sorry, I have connectivity issues and the messages arrived inverted...
Well it's not 6.4cm wide, or that would be larger than the sensei 310
If anyone knows, tag or dm me
Mmm...the measures I found on the review I used as reference where actually wrong, because my Rival 650 is 67mm. I found a review on overclock.net made by Takasta on the old Kanav2 which has the same shape of the Rival 106 and the widest point of the shape is 64mm while the length is 124mm and the height 37mm.
It should be ~60-61mm at this point. Is not so much smaller than the Sensei 310... @short widget
@short widget I found a guy/girl on Reddit who has it..I am looking to see if he/she can share the info! ๐
can someone make @native ravine check his pm's in da discord? Thanks
who runs the techblog or whatever, he could be pm'd aswell
2-fa for your steelseries account whenโข
Amanda Holden shouts the F word live on air after The Haunting audition!
@hexed shore the steelseries blog on the main site or the techblog where the release notes get posted?
ill pm the details
nice ๐
does SSE work with msi mobos?
they only had us implement the Z270, the othe rones they put into their own app instead
oh ok ๐ฆ
@mellow nymph this is a bit sad...because most of those companies don't even release a free SDK to let us do the integration...I was waiting for Asus AuraKit to go out of beta to create a plugin to interface GameSense with Asus AuraSync...it would be cool to forward the in-game integration between different hardware without having to create shady .dlls
@stray axle what @fervent igloo said :)
@fervent igloo are you talking to me? I am not advertising...I was wondering if I can use the SS SDK public interface to make the sync work with my motherboard, which is Asus...I am not advertising Asus... ๐
@proven dune I didn't know that...but unfortunately I bought another brand's computer
Oh ok...I noticed the similar nickname and was wondering if it was me ๐
something something chroma had announced that it works with multiple different pieces of software, any plans on that aswell or thats a exclusivity deal between razer and other companies?
oh yeah, where could i pitch actual software ideas?
I didn't hear about it...but if they make an openSDK it would be possible to create a plugin for GameSense...I mean, I am constantly looking to what I could develop with GameSense, I am just looking for the right thing to do ๐น
i like how casually you say that, like developing apps is simply a task that anyone can do from the day they were born @jade tartan
Well...considering that it should be (at least in the world where now we live)...how can this features be expanded and used if manufacturers don't give to the many hundreds of thousand of people who can do it an opportunity to do it?
I learned ho to do something for GameSense...but honestly I don't think that mail notifications and terminal progress bars are the most wanted thing for a plugin which interact with lights on a keyboard designed for video game players...
It would be great to instead make those things for the games and with the games...
and they're just restAPIs and JSON files (after all) ๐
wait realy?
we've had the "should we interact with other people's hardware" discussion many times internally. Haven't gone in that direction yet but it's never fully off the table TBH
we made a Chroma DLL replacement that sends to GameSense instead, but it's not something we can actually ship, for a variety of reasons ๐
by the way, if you use a software debugger while playing overwatch they ban your account
whoops
??
we discovered that during that experiment
yes
Duude, you in the back end or front end
the more you know
more back end than front end usually, but I do both
uhh, question : when updated polling rate is commin?
pixart sensor aint sweating at 2000hz, so what gives?
or thats up to the mouse engineers
im a bit confused
@hexed shore I know we've looked at it, couldn't tell you why it hasn't made it into an actual product
uhh, lets see if im allowed to send links
@hexed shore has been warned
reason: Posted a link
lol
anyways, uhh
where could i show a picture or whatevers
ill post it in the #๐ป-building-a-pc and then someone will remove it laters
i understand how 100hz is worse that 1000hz but is 2000hz notably better than 1000hz???
if you are using more than 60hz monitor, the microstutter increases for the mouse
oh
increasing the polling rate makes the fix
oh shoot
what would need to be done is just to "overclock" (it aint really overclocking) the polling rate
usual max polling rate of usb hub (i think) (without proper drivers) is 1000hz
and with modified drivers, it is up to 8000hz
the limitation comes from the driver + the device
if device supports it, it can go easily at 8khz, as with the WMO phenomena
eh, it's a little more involved than that. double the polling rate doesn't make a positive difference unless you're reading from the sensor twice as much, which has performance implications for everything else running in the firmware
oh
I very much doubt you can get to 8k with an actual sensor hit every poll
lets say that we aint running pentium III anymore and performance isnt a very noticable impact
and without that it's just a marketing slide
I have no idea. I don't run things here, I just hang out ๐
i pm'd to ya the link
if i would have windows 10, i would totally do the mod
in my opinion, the performance impact has been from the higher CPU usage (polling) but that has been negated by the fact we can run the game at WAY higher FPS than before (quake players/cs players/arena shooter players would enjoy this more)
i never thought about that
is it due to the stablity of the sensor or the controller for the mouse aint keeping it up
also, it would be a windows 10 exclusive thing, cuz i think that windows 10 has better usb support (or drivers, idk) (i havent tried on linux)
has there been any testing of higher frequency mouses?
Is the problem software or hardware?
i dont know, cuz i havent done my research on linux usb (device recognition and usablity) and its polling rate
ahh well
There could be always the reasoning of signal degredation, but how does a mouse controller/sensor pull its weight from 2004/2003?
@mellow nymph is this thing, what im suggesting a good idea? (y/n)
I know our mouse guys have discussed the feature a number of times. Personally I think it might be cool but I know the headache it would cause the firmware team ๐
I'll stay back and write code while they duke it out
speaking of which, I gotta stop chatting and go back to what I'm supposed to be doing
ok lol
from my scratchpaper math, it(sweetlow) just uses a modded usb driver with the changed polling rate, if steelseries has a driver for the usb hub, then... something something modded usb drivers for win10.
@mellow nymph you completely picked up my point...all of the closed source-ness of this lightning integration is making it pretty useless for every brand and SteelSeries is one of the few really opened to third party applications...I hope this changes out soon because I wanted to prototype a couple of cool ideas for Overwatch...specially for the ultimates... ๐ฆ
So I had a question. Are there any rubber feet for the M750 that I could buy that are between the two sizes that came with the board? I find the small ones too flat and the tall ones better, but still a bit on the taller side for my preference
You could in theory either just trim the ones you have or if you're feeling crafty, 3D print some new ones @rotund canyon
I don't think there's other sizes available
All right, thought I would ask. Would be a good product to look into offering though
Pretty sure the updated keyboards (Apex 7 and Pro) have integrated feet but I'm not sure if the new products will replace the old ones @rotund canyon
Any news on the 7 then? This is the first I've heard of it, but the Pro has my eye.
My M750 MIGHT become a backup option already XD
It's physically the same as the pro with the only exception being the switches
Where the pro has the new OmniPoint switches
Are they Cherry switches they're using save the OmniPoint? I see the Red-blue-brown here
But I know Kailh and Gateron also use those colors
Both of which have made switches for SS now
I know the Apex 7 switches are made in coop with Gateron
That's the one I'm looking at getting in specific, thanks
I know Gateron switches have become quite solid
I'll probably personally go blue or brown, likely brown
I thought those were Kailh though. I may be wrong though
They are Gateron
Well if this is how a Gateron switch feels then I'm on board for those
oof no gateron blacks ;(?
I think it might be QX1 that was Kailh
These are the best switches I have ever used.
Granted that's not hard, my only other ones were Romer G Tactiles, but still
I've tinkered on some Cherry boards from Corsair. Think these top those. I just wish there was a tactile model of the QX2, but honestly, I've come to not really worry about the difference.
But yeah, I'm definitely going to be upgrading to the Apex 7 I think when it drops. Do we have a date yet?
ye gaterons way better in quality
Though here is a thing I would love to see them make
A WIRELESS mech board with Gaterons that has RGB backlighting. Could use the same tech in the Rival 650 and adapt that for lowering the latency. The build quality of SteelSeries with a fully wireless setup would be PERFECT for my rather cramped setup. And have a standard and TKL options.
Logitech has a board with the numpad, but there's no backlight, and Corsair's has no numpad and has a fixed blue backlight. I'd love to see them marry the two ideas, but use RGB LEDs
might wanna look for a 60% keeb for gaming
The power draw shouldn't be all that much more so battery life shouldn't be an issue. And I would, but I do much more than gaming on my system. I'm going to school for comp sci, so I need that numpad for that
Per-key illumination on a keyboard is a pretty significant jump from that on a mouse (even the 650) - it's roughly 8x the number of LEDs
so the power concerns are non-negligible
its a well known fact that more LED = more battery POWER
True, I hadn't considered that fact when I stated that. Still though, I maintain my level of confidence in you guys over there!
Just put in a 99Wh battery @mellow nymph
Fixed and then you're even still allowed to carry it with you on a plane :P
@proven dune has been warned
reason: Posted a link
Only a few domains are allowed to link to @proven dune
These motherboards are equipped with the mos t advanced LED system in the market. The RGB Fusion app boasts an impressive list of lighting options that are accessible with a few clicks of the mouse. For hardcore lighting fans, Advanced Mode lets users adjust multiple zones in...
There's the link :)
Thanks
Yw :)
@jade tartan see above
Is it time to go home from work, when you've been there more than 18 hours? :D
Yes. Yes it is.
Go home lmao
Is there any sponsers that you need for gaming like keyborad and mouse?
what๏ผ
My clan needs a sponser
I knw
@proven dune that looks interesting...then I might consider Gigabyte for my next ITX build (if their x570 model will be promising...)
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Question...does the Stratus Duo work with the Nintendo Switch in Bluetooth mode?
I'm not sure but I doubt it will @jade tartan
There's an adapter you can use that will let you use most bt controllers with switch @jade tartan. Even a dualshock or Xbox One controller too
@jade tartannot sure bout their X570 but their Z390 VRM are some of the best mITX vrms
@stark rampart mmm...I think I'll give it a go sometimes, in the worst scenario my Steam-Link will approve it anyway ๐
@proven dune I know...in fact I hope they will confirm their positive trend also with AMD chipsets
QUICK QUESTION: If I were to put my Apex M750 in a luggage and take it to Europe, would it survive being thrown around by the luggage handlers and survive the flight itself?
I would definitely at least wrap it in towels or something - and there's never any guarantee of them repacking it properly if they inspect your luggage
but if you want to bring it, the TKL can actually fit quite decently into a carry-on size bag
The keycaps might fall off, but other than that it should be fine
Okasy thanks!
As far as we know it should be compatible
don't think we tested it specifically, but the PS4 implementation is very standard
@hollow crest has been warned
reason: Bad word usage
@mellow nymph is there beta software avaliable for testing and some shiz like that?
in general, no, we don't have a beta program (yet)
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it's definitely something we'd like to do at some point
i have a sudden urge to break everything or check how its made
if ya know what i mean
SSE4 needs to be open source :p
That doesn't make any sense
'twas a joke
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well, some parts could be open to the public, due to growing concerns of "gaming apparel" software being quite insecure. points finger at other company that starts and should be handed ๐ฑ award.
but being open-source (to a point) can actually help, forexample the software being ported to other OS'es than listed by the company (mac/windows only soft, no linux software avaliable, you gotta get the 3rd party, reverse engineered stuff)
we've quietly contributed code or API details to a few of those 3rd party things
there are several people internally who'd love to support linux fully, but the maintenance cost vs userbase is just not there
:o
@mellow nymph do you plan to make SSE prism sync support for msi b450 mobos?
JHunz will there ever be minecraft gamesense for other minecraft clients i.e. badlion client? so we dont have to use technic launcher?
MSI product support is 99% up to MSI
@echo kettle presumably if someone forks it for one of those
oh, well i guess
fine
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my case does not even have a side panel why do i care a bout rgb ๐
so wait are the MSI keyboards on the laptops specifically made with steelseries or does MSI just support the lighting?
it's the other way around. They handle the hardware side of things, we handle the firmware and software side of the lighting
I think the original key layout they started with was based on one of ours, as well
lol xd
xd lol
is gmail down
wait, fo reals
Works for me
huh
there's been a google cloud outage affecting various services for part of today
whether certain things are broken is probably extremely regional
yeah some keyboard stuff i was looking up was acting up
ah
i can access it now
How long do support tickets here typically take to get taken care of? I just bought my headset and it's not working so I'd really like to get this fixed asap
@stray axle has been warned
reason: Bad word usage
I did it for the memes
lol
you dont diss a company as good as SS like that
Do they have a youtube?
come on SirKaiwade i hate to say it but i know these ppl
i lead them here on accident
hahahah "Accident"
would you please stop
what did i do
nothing
why you no leave @wide horizon , didnt you just come to see aron say that thing "for the meme"? even if it was "for the meme" its still not ok!
@dense trellis caln down
sigh
yeah
yes i love it too
i might get a rival 650
if you have a larger hand, it will suit you fine, but for me, having an avg length, would prefer some other mouse. (rival 300 shell with rival 310 insides)
I have a 650, cuz of mobile work
isnt rival 310 for large hands too lol
not really, its comfy (atleast for me) and i use the palm grip
ive got a pretty big hand but its mainly the wireless thing
that pricetag is quite something if you are considering it
current mouse is like 130 so
im getting a mousepad
i wish i could afford a pc ๐ฆ
I want a mac pro ๐ซ
if I save, I'd be able to afford it in maybe 2 years ๐ค
that's not bad actually
the cost will be insanely high.
6000
plus the $1k stand
the stand?
Get the vesa mount ($200) + a vesa stand ($50?) if you don't want that stand
But then a non apple stand will cause the Mac to blackscreen and
Great joke, but that's not how Vesa work
Not how Vesa works, but how apple works
TBF, if you want a display with comparable quality, you have to pay $48K today
$48K too much
@regal tinsel dude i dont wanna be rude but i honestly feel bad for you xD
first time for me testing 136g mouse and jeez
@stray axle why??
its just too heavy to lift and readjust your aim
i really recommend testing around 80g mice with good skates its really world changing
Will the Apex M750 and M750 TKL be restocked in all languages?
Anyone know when will the Apex 7 be released?
Mid june @unkempt skiff
"Available online and in selected retailers mid-June 2019"
Thankies
@stark rampart can I get one for testing? ๐
@finite saffron

;_;

start by testing your ability to purchase an item on our webshop
and if that item is an Apex 7, you will soon have an Apex 7 for testing
Cool!
Diddy which keyboard do you have? Also how is everyone doing today?!
@tawny snow After seeing reactions to the pro stand, pretty good HAHA
We had a good laugh at that this morning = )
uhh yea, where can i get the pro stand? i would like to make a batch order.
I can hook you up @hexed shore - just transfer the money to me and I'll have it shipped to you

Rip Nimbus btw
But then again, steelseries makes controllers for PS4 and Xbone, right?
Xbonbe ๐ค
Typo for Xbone
@stray axle has been warned
reason: Posted an invite
nah, we're not in the console controller business
competing against those controllers in the PC space is hard enough
@mellow nymph is there a reason why the Stratus Duo has no vibration feedback?
I assume it was a battery life and price decision, but I wasn't part of that discussion
Mmm...strange, because is priced like the Xbox one and except from the hall magnetic triggers is pretty much the same
btw thanks
I was looking for it, and I'm just scared to miss the feedback in racing games too much...I already have an Xbox One controller but is kinda dead, for no real reason
ooga booga analog support on apex pro
Oh damn
I have a couple of questions about the Apex M750 TKL. Will it be returning or is it replaced by the new Apex line? And is there a European layout of it, there's Nordic French US and UK I believe but all are a tad bit different from the European layout.
Please @ me if you have the answer to these questions. I don't recieve notifications from this server for some reason.
European layout sounds weird @dusky ravine
not sure what you mean by it
Oh, I looked it up and I didn't find it either. My current keyboard has a layout that is part American and part UK so I assumed it was european.
Otherwise I would've went with the American layout, that is closest to my current one.
Can you upload a picture of the keyboard to imgur and post it/dm it to me?
Sure, one second.
@torn ore why feelsbad, if you dont read da TOS, whos fault is it?
oh.
yo
hi
Very excited about the new Apex Keyboards. The omni point switch seems really cool but I don't really know how to feel about it. It just seems a little weird to me, once I get used to it I'll adjust it to something like 2.2 mm. (My Current Keyboard Switches' Activate Pont) Though the one thing that may be a little iffy with me is the price... $180? I don't know how to think about this but I may or may not buy it. Though I can very easily see why it is priced that high, just that I'm pretty broke and I might not be able to afford it :(.
there's really no reason to buy it if you won't actually use the .4 actuation distance
So...honestly I think that the .4 actuation distance is just for the specs and barely usable...but what I could say to @main haven is that if you are prone to try a new actuation point but you like the feel of linear switches, that might me the buy to do...If you feel right with your actual switches just don't feel the pressure of buying one and use the one you own as long as it's good.
I love linear switches...but i like a slighter higher actuation point rather than the one on the QX2 because I literally let my fingers rest on the keys and sometimes I do unwanted clicks...the adjustable feature would be perfect to calibrate the weight of my fingers on the keys and take the value which gives me the shortest press (on WASDEQ SHIFT and CTRL while playing) from the resting position...then I would use a pretty normal profile for typing and so on.
I can see the potential in that...but if you don't need the extra feature and you're looking for a fixed travel distance just go for the one feels better for you, the price is really high so I think that you shouldn't put your wallet on the line just because you think is cool...you can save the money and buy it at a better time for sure!
as for gaming input .4 actuation is really interesting. The quicker the better.
Typing, I'd have to use it first to say.
Just touching the key to actuate sounds uncomfortable
Maybe not if you rest your fingers in the air
idk, i think it will be slightly less more than "just touching it"
i think the impression some are getting is if you rest your fingers on keys for instance while typing it will just input letters
Don't assume my fingers heft ๐
but it still needs that definitive press
i mean you cant throw your large meaty claws down
Maybe I'm just resting very intencly?
Will the Apex M750 TKL be restocking?
So uh, my 650 and 600 seem to like to move the cursor slower than the speed I move the mouse at random times and it's really irritating especially when I'm trying to record
In fact it only seems to happen when recording :/
oh cmon
@hardy nymph With the Apex Pro, it might just be as simple as grazing the keys.
.4 is very low and even Speed switches actuate with a little too much pressure. Weโll have to see reviews and test it ourselves to find the truth. Though the whole thing about the keyboard is that you can change the actuation
LinuxTechTips made a video...and Linus was literally swiping on the keys with his fingers...
@rancid tree what are you using for recording? Does the software have any "remote" functionality? It might fight with the mouse's driver...
what why?
Reason: Posted a link
sorry , I forgot
btw on reddit it looks like is giving also in-game issues
It also happened with WoW in the past
Xsplit was giving the same mouse sensitivity issue
I wonder if it makes stranges things with the Windows Mouse Interface while recording...
Huh, alright. Thanks
It's proprietary
Proprietary > Open Source
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(I kid ofcourse)
The GUI looks nicer, and it might actualy be more intuitive
Input overlay that looks good
Main thing I record is a DOOM mod called Project Brutality
I know. I got it because I could
That's what my bankruptcy note says about the new Apple Pro stand
i swear apple did that for more publicity ...
think about it
if it becomes a meme it will be all over the internet for free
not that a company like apple needs that
but still
how does the arctis 7 2019 handle max volume gaming? like in terms of echo etc
Idk about the 7 but I've played DOOM 2k16 at max on my 5
Alright, so I decided to order the Rival 106. 16-50 business day shipping.
That's a lot
Yeah, but needs to be shipped from asia
@short widget did you find the size you were looking for?
btw I thin that a mouse like the 106 would sell a lot in Europe...
@dense trellis when does Apple ever run ads?
I have seen none in my local tv stations or ads on websites I visit
not exact measurements, but I did find some videos saying it's about the same size as the g pro wireless.
And that was enough to get me to buy it
plus I really like the truemove 1
Reason: Posted a link
@jade tartan yeah indeed
the clicks are pretty nice actually
the only thing i would complain about the mouse is the sensor placement
its bit too behind for my preference
Hopefully the new keyboard would hit the stores here soon.
Only bad thing about SteelSeries mice is durability of the mouse wheel.
@celest python really? My Sensei lost only the left click after 7 years ๐ฆ
the wheel was fine...I have to watch how durable the Rival600 will be...it's past the 11moth mark without issues ๐ค
Same for my rival 310, had it for over a yearly
@finite saffron I get there adds on youtube all the time ๐
I have never seen any of their ads, except those I seeked myself
@finite saffron i guess they are interest based then ๐
As in "he's super interested, he knows whattup"?
i follow video editing and similar arts which seems like one of the kinds of ppl apple target
plus i do follow tech so what you said may be true
ye that makes sense
Guys i have a huge problem. I bought steelseries arctis 5 like 3 weeks ago and now i can't here anything from the right side. Does anyone know how to fix this? If someone knows pls send me a message
is the connector plugged in all the way ? @lime knot
what do you mean with connector plugged?
^
Yeah it is
ok its always a good starting point ๐
Reason: Posted a link
I think Mee6 is too tight about posting links ๐ค
@dense trellis I happen to shoot once in a while
oh
Streaming Xbox through pc using the 9X. Any way to get chat audio without setting chat to come through speakers or no? Because itโs insanely annoying to hear chat through speakers.
Hey guys anyone else here rocking the rival 310?
I use the rival 310 @haughty vault
and uhh who just tagged Crash_ but then deleted the message?
@remote turtle
I like it but the grip is so unique compared to any other mouse ive had
Its strange
Casually pairing my phone to my ps4, nothing to see here
@haughty vault i use it
@dense trellis do ur grips get sweaty
sometimes
Time for my graduation :)
Graduation from being a pizza roll. Now he's a full fledged calzone.
Grade
Hm
1am for me
Uh guys can you he,p me?
It was a good day for me yesterday. (June 7th) highschool graduation, then lasertagging with some buds.
Yessir; watcha need
but it only says loading
On the engine?
Dont wanna tell ya wrong, but a calzone would probably be the last choice for help. The sauce is saying uninstall then reinstall. The cheese is sayin check maybe firewall and see if its tryna block anything/whitelist the engine. The crust says find a new partner. While the meat reccomends you to open a support ticket
Haw Yee ๐ค
so like
can you help me with option 2?
i did 5 and 3
34*
i reinstalled it and i went to support but it cant help me
and idk how to turn off y firewalls
got my arctis 7 today and omfg the quality of this headset is insane
Noice!
uh does anyone know y my arctis 7 doesnt connect to the engine 3? i have it in my laptop with usb. my laptop detects it but the engine doesnt
lol
@red mortar @steep trench #official-support Should help you out. If you need further help, please create a ticket over at support.steelseries.com
ok.
oh hello
i dropped my rival 300 and the mouse sensors came off and its not moving now
can someone help
i can only scroll and click
its not working help please my mom will kill me if she finds out
Can someone tell me how I can update my Gamedac. The Steel Engine on the PC is up to date
ima die
@stray axle is it rattling, cuz then its a broken mouse, you may need to RMA it or attempt to fix it yo self
its not rtattling
i said the sensors are not working
it sometimes moves
please help my mom is gonna kill me
im gonna die now
Hey @stray axle @stray axle Please refer to #official-support for help :)
I maked it
huh, thats wierd, havent seen where the mouse still semi-operates.
eeeh, i think you are out of luck, cuz, if support hanged up on ya, maybe you can try to repair it yourself, but if you have the mouse under warranty, then you could try to RMA it.
@stray axle when did you purchase the mouse?
@torn ore u should read it
wot really
yea neumann is someone else
oof
lmao what
with 4 others from Bonn
for
to help some school or shit
these damn proactive children from public schools
ugh
if i was born 1 yr earlier i coulda done praktikum over at bthv
wym lol we have to do CAS
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-.-
i coulda done that at bthv too
then you should have xd
next time 100%
s u c k s t o b e y o u
MUN doesnt fill all CAS
it's action
