#stardust-crusaders

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clear trout
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sorry

cloud plinth
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Jotakak isn't canon, never will be

inner monolith
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kakyoin did you lay this egg

leaden lagoon
still crag
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wtf

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anyways, favorite character is polnareff so far

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he kind of sucks l but I like him anyways

unkempt forum
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Kakyoin is Flaky but awesome

winged crest
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I luv all za Crusaders

still crag
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even iggy?

forest pewter
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Of course

winged crest
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Is that even a question

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That's the best Jodog

clear trout
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Star platinum THICC

clear trout
viscid carbon
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so I see this discussion from this morning about Avdol's Magician's Red being overpowered, and I just don't see it. I mean, Bast, which is one of the objectively weakest stands, was able to run circles around him because his range is so bad. High Priestess? he couldn't do shit. fucking The Wheel? he couldn't handle it and had to run for cover like everyone else. Hanged Man? slips right past his defenses. Strength? nothing he can meaningfully do to it. and so on, and so forth

inner monolith
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i only remember avdol fighting polnareff ball

wintry rampart
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Seems like Araki felt fire-related abilities can throw off the balance of things

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"The ability to control fire is a pretty common thing in manga, as well as movies, but in the end, they just burn things up and that's about it. If you play it too loose, as an ability, it can break the balance. After writing JoJo, I think "fire" and "poison" are two abilities that I'm okay with putting behind lock and key."

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That may be why the Stand itself was intentionally under utilized. Had it been used to the maximum potential, it could have done amazing things.

mortal river
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thicc platinum

clear trout
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thicc platinum

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also as someone who owns a small dog ||iggys death|| actually makes me incredibly sad

wanton turret
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Refresh my memory but did iggy literallly not contribute to anything in the OVAs other than being thrown?

strong eagle
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you dont need to spoiler tag anything if its in part 3 or earlier in this channel

clear trout
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oh

elfin bronze
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Idk about the OVA

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I don't remember much from it

winged crest
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I don't own a small dog yet Iggy's death was extremely sad to me

near vigil
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SHINEI, KAKYOIN! Might just be my favorite line.

tribal badge
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OVAiggy 🦶

inner monolith
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OVAiggy 🍦 🥖 🐔

maiden geyser
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OVAiggy 🔥

clear trout
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Me, wanting wholesome kakyoin x jotaro content
Google : So, you want nsfw

forest pewter
clear trout
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I just want to see art of them like kissing or something

forest pewter
clear trout
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KAKYOIN NOOOOOOOOOO

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dio still hot and thicc tho

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Dio was really like : “I want that twink obliterated.”

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Joseph thicc

forest pewter
clear trout
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All joestars thicc

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DIO has my body
@wintry rampart yes and your point? He still hot af

forest pewter
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Jonathan is hot

clear trout
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I feel so bad for Kakyoin...

forest pewter
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How do you guys pronounce Kakyoin

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I pronounce it Kak-kio-in

clear trout
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Ok so kakyoin didn’t actually die he lived and married jotaro :(

forest pewter
clear trout
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Listen I’m trying here

forest pewter
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Don't try

clear trout
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I don’t want kakyoin to be dead I’m 😭

forest pewter
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Kakyoin cloud

wanton turret
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holy shit kakyoin cloud

forest pewter
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What will he do

clear trout
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Kakyoin cloud hugs people

wanton turret
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emerald rain

clear trout
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No one can deflect the emerald rain

forest pewter
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☂️

clear trout
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Someone can deflect the emerald rain

near starBOT
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@clear trout, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !

inner monolith
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huh nice

winged crest
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@forest pewter I say it as Kak-yoin

forest pewter
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No

torpid basin
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i HATE jotakak

digital temple
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^^^^^^

inner monolith
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why do ppl ship them

clear trout
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well i just think theyre neat

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for me kakyoin is a comfort character

weary turret
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they are cool

clear trout
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i really dont see why people hate it so much

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its not like tis weird

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kakyoin and jotaro are literally friends in the anime and people ship friends

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like

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i physically cant understand why people hate it

digital temple
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Because they’re friends canonically, why make it more and tell others about it, making them think of two characters from their favourite show kissing or doing other things

clear trout
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thats. just what shipping is

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i really think if you think "theyre friends canonically" is a reason people shouldnt ship then

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then you hate all ships

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because dude

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a majority of ships like everywhere have friend x another friend

inner monolith
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i dont rly care what ppl ship but just dont bother others about it

clear trout
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im not btohering others

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i just like the ship

inner monolith
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im not saying its you im just talking about ppl who ship in general

still crag
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some people dont like shipping which is understandable considering how... goddamit what is the word... everywhere it is

digital temple
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I don’t really like any ships because most of them are just friends in the show

clear trout
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I don’t really like any ships because most of them are just friends in the show
@digital temple subtext

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subtext can show romantic chemistry

digital temple
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If they show that they clearly like each other then like... sure?

clear trout
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well

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you dont have to VOCALLY exclaim you hate jotakak

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literally nobody cares

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its not like i or another person asked "whats your opinion on jotakak"

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yall just exclaimed you hated it out of the blue

forest pewter
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I mean

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Nobody asked for anyone's opinions

digital temple
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Nobody has to though

clear trout
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its rude to just exclaim you hate ships that did nothing wrong

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people have comfort ships and dont want people just being like "I HATE X SHIP" out of nowhere

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it can be upsetting

leaden lagoon
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oh god a ship battle

clear trout
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people should be able to ship what they want (as long as its not creepy) and nobody should care

leaden lagoon
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people just mind your buisness

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if you don't like something just click the little x at the top right corner of your screen

digital temple
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Jotaro horse x kakyoin is a thing

leaden lagoon
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what

clear trout
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WHAT THE FUCK IS JOTARO HORSE

digital temple
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Thats what it did wrong

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Jotaro as a horse and kakyoin

clear trout
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coco large did jotaro turn into a horse in the anime

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no

leaden lagoon
clear trout
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so doesnt count

leaden lagoon
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that is the only thing i can think of

forest pewter
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I don't care who you ship but it makes me kinda uncomfortable sometimes

digital temple
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Right but you said it did nothing wrong

forest pewter
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But I still don't give a single fuck

clear trout
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Right but you said it did nothing wrong
@digital temple yeah, but thats the fandom not the ship itself

digital temple
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The fandom created the ship

clear trout
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the fandom has horse jotaro idk why the fuck they have horse jotaro

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for me i ship jotakak because theyre just cute together and neither of them are horses

forest pewter
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At least not yet

clear trout
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a lot of my ships are relationships between friends

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because i like subtext

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and i like ships

digital temple
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No, not ever @forest pewter

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Neither of them ever become horses

clear trout
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i will never vocally say

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"I HATE A SHIP" unless its incest, etc

forest pewter
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How can you be so sure CoCo

clear trout
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in part 16

digital temple
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I can’t say for spoiler reasons but I know

clear trout
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in part 16 joseph becomes a horse but not jotaro

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youre mixing them up

digital temple
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Ah my bad sorry

strong iron
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for me i ship jotakak because theyre just cute together and neither of them are horses
@clear trout "neither of them are horses" GEKDHSJS

flint yacht
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Kakyoin best jobro, change my mind

inner monolith
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mentions future part character

digital temple
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Oi, ||[REDACTED]||

still crag
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kakyoin is pretty cool

wintry rampart
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Why are all the bystanders in cairo so rude?

winged crest
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Maybe they don't like strangers

charred cobalt
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honestly more of a Jojokes thing @strong eagle

unkempt forum
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I am boingo and I propheize with mangaa-aaa-aaa

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My favorite Jojo Ending is Oingo boingo brothers

true flicker
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Ah

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A cultured person

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Always good to see one

unkempt forum
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Yep

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I should probably finish up part 2

ebon dock
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You do that

wintry rampart
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Half of the Stardust Crusaders are gone

forest pewter
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Araki really likes to punch us right in the feelings doesn't he?

wanton turret
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If the feelings are in the stomach region, yes

charred folio
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araki forgot about the reader/watcher's feelings

forest pewter
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"Hey I know you really like this character but they gonna fucking die lmao"

charred folio
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SIKE HE LIVED

forest pewter
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Nah jk

charred folio
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SIKE AGAIN HES DEAD

forest pewter
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Avdol basically

winged crest
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Araki is sad when he kills them

flint yacht
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Is he tho?

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I watched stardust months ago, and some deaths still have impact on me to this day

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Actually, I think I finished it before 2020, wow this year is passing so fast

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Nope, it was jan-feb 2020

cloud plinth
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I mean the deaths weren't that sad

flint yacht
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Compared to?

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Look, maybe its just that quarantine made me lose anything that takes my mind off these deaths

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I've been here in my room for so damn long

wintry rampart
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Wow

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This part is already my favorite and i watched Just two episodes

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I liked the peacing, It was so good! I haven't Felt this way even since i wacthed Star Wars! (Where i couldn't take my eyes of the screen)

inner monolith
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watch more

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jojo

wintry rampart
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Joseph changed

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But at the same time he feels the same!

coarse saffron
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does dio and jotaro have a timer somewhere that tells them when their timestop ends 🤔

feral mauve
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in the anime they state it using words

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in the manga i think it would be a page or a panel

novel aurora
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**music Playing

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music playing

forest pewter
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Bruh

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What is wrong with you

feral mauve
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what if joseph's revival symbolizes jesus' resurrection

winged crest
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No

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They don't have a timer because no time passes

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But the length feels like 5 seconds

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To them

wintry nacelle
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Ngl Joseph could have won against dio if he had his clacker balls with him

still crag
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I keep trying and failing to watch this season in a timely manner

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I like polnareff can I just skip to a polnareff episode

forest pewter
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No

digital river
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oHHH

wanton turret
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that's Mannish Boy

still crag
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The death 13 episode was very good tbh

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*episodes

digital river
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tru

dusky cairn
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that's Mannish Boy
@wanton turret my fault, bad memory

winged crest
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Jan said a future part spoiler and hasn't deleted it?

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😮

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Is the world ending?

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Ngl Joseph could have won against dio if he had his clacker balls with him
That wouldn't beat time stop

digital temple
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JOTARO DIDNT RECOGNIZE POLNAREFF AS THREE BECAUSE HE COULD ONLY SPEAK FRENCH 😳😳😳😳

clear trout
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AND POLNAREFF DIDNT BRING OUT HIS STAND INFRONT OF JOTARO BC HE PROBABLY COULDNT CONTROL WHEN IT CAME OUT IT WAS ON IMPULSE

viscid carbon
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for real though trying to figure out what language the characters are nominally speaking in Stardust Crusaders is a big fucking rabbit hole to go down. there's no answer you can pick that doesn't raise further questions

wintry rampart
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I assume the Crusaders speak mostly English with each other. And maybe perhaps Kak and Jotaro speak Japanese with each other at times.

charred folio
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yeah I think joseph also might know a bit of french for some reason that he speaks with pol

flint yacht
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P3 is easily my fav part, p5 comes right after

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Not sure about p6, I read it, but I'll wait for the anime. Didnt read past p6

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Not that the other parts are not good, but there is "good" and there is "better" just like how there is "best"

still crag
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I really like certain episodes of the show so far

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but I sort of dislike Jotaro

flint yacht
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He's really nice after u get to know him

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Yeah he shouts at his mother, but only to push her away from getting involved with his "evil spirit" so she doesnt get hurt
In short: he wanted to protect her

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You will get to know him better if you decide to read the manga... which is annoying to be told to do

winged crest
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And yes Jotaro loves his mom

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And is stoic and doesn't normally express emotion

still crag
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Nah, I almost would rather read a manga than watch the show

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oh he is my same zodiac

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not that I believe in that shit

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“hates women who wont shut up” lol

flint yacht
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There are specific types of women who can get annoying tbh

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No offense

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I am a fan of berserk, and I like guts, its really likely that I would like Jotaro

winged crest
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I went to school with them

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Those type of people

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That you described

flint yacht
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Guess it wasnt a very pleasent experience

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Its okay, everybody has stuff that's annoying to them

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Its a good thing that humans vary, at least to a certain extent

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Idk if I'm saying something against the rules, but whatever

still crag
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yeah I enjoy the fight scenes, tbh it’s the entertaining part
and nah you’re good you didn’t say anything wrong

flint yacht
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Good to know

still crag
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what is berserk exactly

weary turret
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popular battle seinen manga

flint yacht
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With a few anime adaptations, some of them sucked

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I liked it cause Guts feels human, a person with flaws and problems who had a tough life, not thr typical protaganist, an anti hero afaik

still crag
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Hm. Will have to read about it then. Not big on medieval or dark fantasy but I do like a good antihero. will put it on my list of mangas to check out, after Dorohedoro

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and jjba

flint yacht
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The one list you plan on readin but you never read? :}

still crag
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lol, got me I guess. I will finish the manga though.

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eventually lol. At a snail’s reading pace a day

flint yacht
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I hate to say stuff like this, but a million- steps trip starts with a single step

still crag
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True. I’m starting stardust crusaders manga tonight, I’m already on chapter 13 of stone ocean though so might read it first

flint yacht
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Yeah go for stone ocean

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You got plenty of time for p3, and p5 will introduce more interesting stuff about some chars

steep monolith
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Jotaro is only 1/4 british since Holly is 1/2 italian since suzie q is 100/100 italian everyone keeps forgetting about this

forest pewter
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Jotaro is a wimp

winged crest
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You spelt badass wrong

fallen ingot
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Jojo part 3 is the best jojo 11/10

wintry rampart
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Part 2 for me

fallen ingot
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I give part 2 9.9/10

wintry rampart
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10000000/10

true flicker
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Part 3 is like

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A 7

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It’s my second least favourite

fallen ingot
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Which is your favourite

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?

serene panther
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stardust crusaders is more like polnareff's bizarre adventures

near starBOT
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@fallen ingot, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !

fallen ingot
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Funniest scene ever

wintry rampart
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yeh man

fallen ingot
wintry rampart
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Number 1 Oh MY GODDD scene

celest minnow
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Kakyoin did you lay this egg?

slate blaze
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lmao

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i remember that scene

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the most sus episode

flint yacht
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Which scene?

cloud plinth
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It’s not in the anime

flint yacht
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Makes sense

ocean storm
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My favourite episode of this part was 35

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That was a really good episode

fallen ingot
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@ocean storm I don't remember episodes

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Tell me what happened

ocean storm
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Darby

warped haven
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Which one

fallen ingot
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Oh

ocean storm
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Gamble

fallen ingot
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Ok

ocean storm
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Badass jotaro

fallen ingot
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Yeah

ocean storm
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Not looking at his cards

fallen ingot
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Agree

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It was cool episode

ocean storm
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After watching that i wanted to do that in real life

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Id probably lose tho

fallen ingot
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I like 5he battle with his bro too

warped haven
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I don’t think most people could keep their cool like that

ocean storm
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Yeah

fallen ingot
ocean storm
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NO NO NO NO

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NOOOO

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Yes yes yes oh my god

celest minnow
ocean storm
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NANI!!???!?

celest minnow
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R u gonna do the ora ora thing?!

ocean storm
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YES YES YES YES

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YES

celest minnow
ocean storm
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Ah that was good

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Im sad i watched all the seasons in a week

fallen ingot
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Can we post links here

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?

celest minnow
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Yeah..

fallen ingot
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R u gonna do the ora ora thing?!
@celest minnow
Here is the ora ora thing

ocean storm
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Amazing

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celest minnow
ocean storm
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Mukatte kuru no ka

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Nigezu ni kono DIO ni chikazuite kuru no ka

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I memorized that line just because jojo

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Well actually dio

fallen ingot
fallen ingot
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Kakyoin after he sees jotaro's mother

winged crest
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except not really

mellow hawk
prime pendant
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BRUH

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STARDUST CRUSADERS IS HAVING A PART 2

near starBOT
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@prime pendant, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !

torpid basin
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jotaro looks sweaty af

flint yacht
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Even tho he said that he'd marry someone like her, cause she was nice to him and treated his wounds even tho he attacked her son

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Not that he's interested in her

wanton turret
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This chat is only for up to Stardust Crusaders

flint yacht
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Whops

wintry rampart
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yo who wants to see a drawing my friend did if me

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of*

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it’s kinda epic ngl

flint yacht
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If its related to p3, sure go on ahead.
Otherwise I'd be happy to see it, but I guess #other-artworks or #jojo-fanart would be more fitting

deft dagger
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Real discussion hours: Who is the most attractive Crusader

flint yacht
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Hmmm...

cloud plinth
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iggy

flint yacht
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Kakyoin..?

deft dagger
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Personally I think Kakyoin too xbcjhxfkjd

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Tho iggy do got cake doe😳😳 /s

flint yacht
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I thought I'd so kakyoin's haircut cause I wont cut my hair for some time, but dont think it'll work

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His hair type is different than mine, also I would need to cut lots of hair and keep the right corner of the front, dont have the skills to do that

still crag
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most attractive? Probably Abdul. I’d say polnareff, but from an objective standpoint... his hair is just horrendous

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A kakyoin haircut huh, that would be interesting

flint yacht
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Avdul? Huh

ancient laurel
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I mean they always hype up how attractive the JoJo's are

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Every part begins with someone fawning over them

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But yh avdol

deft dagger
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I can see why y’all say Avdol

flint yacht
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Ohhhhhhh

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Okay xDDDDDD

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Muda Muda Muda

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👊

cloud plinth
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Ora Ora Ora

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👊

rich stratus
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k

nocturne roost
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I don’t know what it is about lipstick Dio that I don’t like... maybe it’s the fact that he looks like a fuckin clown. I dunno

wintry rampart
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I don’t know what it is about lipstick Dio that I don’t like... maybe it’s the fact that he looks like a fuckin clown. I dunno
@nocturne roost I dig the purple lipstick. Gives the awakened vibe

ancient laurel
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I like green lipstick dio

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Purple lipstick dios hair was shorter? And he wasn't wearing a jacket so he looked a bit odd

nocturne roost
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Maybe its that he looked like some kinda alien

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With those green lips and pale skin

ancient laurel
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Bcuz of your pfp I realised that when Dio was fake crying his eyes just never went soft

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Or shiny

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He got the facial expression down but his eyes gave him away

winged crest
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To Speedwagon

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But not Jonathan

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Good fuckin thing Speedwagon was there

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Jonathan would have been shanked

ancient laurel
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Good ol' Speevagōn

nocturne roost
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Stupid JoJo and that ogre street bitch

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Fuck it, I’m rejecting my humanity

dark basin
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Because Polnareff says his autograph is worth as much as lennon’s that means the Beatles are canon, meaning there is a non-zero chance Rubber Soul owns a copy of Rubber Soul

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wintry rampart
ancient laurel
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Enjoying showing off your nitro

forest pewter
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Al Yankovic canonically exists in the JoJo universe

ancient laurel
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Eat it

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Eat it

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Eat it

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Eat it

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Get yourself an egg and beat it

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Have some more chicken

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Have some more π

wintry rampart
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Eating lemon chicken rn

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Fucking love me some lemon chicks

rich stratus
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k

wintry rampart
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K

ancient laurel
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Fuck I've been wanting to eat lemon chicken for the past 5 months

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No lemon chicken nearby

wintry rampart
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Bro make it your self

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It’s easy lmao

ancient laurel
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I have lemon but no chicken

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And the fast food version of it has a certain taste

wintry rampart
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Bruh...that’s some lame excuses

wanton turret
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Stardust Crusaders

wintry rampart
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We’re talking about Pet Shop

ancient laurel
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What would lemon petshop taste like

wintry rampart
exotic canyon
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lemon probably

celest minnow
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Idk why Jotaro getting books and stuffs in prison when SP's range is only 2m

ancient laurel
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I think star platinum can go 2m without becoming extremely weak

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If it goes further then it can get stuff but it can't fight or defend itself

celest minnow
ancient laurel
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Lol imagine if modern crusaders was the end song for stardust crusaders

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Instead 3 people missed the last train home

celest minnow
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Pretty fit, but the italian words are a lil bit odd

weary turret
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the latin? :v

fallen ingot
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Heh kakyoin heh

wanton turret
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This is chat is only for up to what Stardust Crusaders covers

fallen ingot
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Sure

winged crest
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If it goes further then it can get stuff but it can't fight or defend itself
This is correct

cloud plinth
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That’s a great gif

digital river
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star platinum smiling is awesome

flint yacht
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Jotaro's ost is too good, specially when it plays in that scene

calm dome
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When star platinum smiles, you know you're in deep shit

wintry rampart
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Ok this is epic

winged crest
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When star platinum smiles, you know you're in deep shit
@calm dome Star Plat boutta beat those cheeks

calm dome
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star succ those nuts

leaden lagoon
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aaand im out

cloud plinth
flint yacht
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Why do some people have to make it weird...

near starBOT
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@flint yacht, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 12 !

flint yacht
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Nice timing

forest pewter
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I agree

calm dome
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Weird stuff brings the fun LXohshit

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Kakyoin do be gaming

cloud plinth
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what an epic gamer

still crag
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gamer

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finally finished the first half of stardust

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iggys stand is pretty cool

pine ice
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The fool is a giant mood

wintry rampart
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Ownnn

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Joseph is such a good father!

pine ice
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Until he wasn’t

burnt nest
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Is it just me or does part3 have a certain vibe that the other parts lack

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Like it has more "soul" or something idk

wintry rampart
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Wow

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Polnareff and silver chariot had a badass entrance!

wintry rampart
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What?

calm solstice
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he's leaning

tribal badge
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I do that on the regular

keen crystal
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can i just say how badass in lore dio's death is

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and it makes sense too

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he may be invincible as a person, but stands are a representation of your fighting spirit not your body

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he's a guy who would prefer to scheme than fight

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jotaro is the opposite

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very mortla

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but he has incredibly powerful fighting spirit

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for his mother, for his friends, and just because dio pissed him off

wanton turret
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fossil coral
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guys 『The World』is actually Jonathan's stand

wanton turret
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I'd take that over Star Platinum=Jonathan

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Any day

keen crystal
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unnamed hermit purple type stand is jonathan's stand

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the world is dio's stand

upbeat copper
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Nobody can just deflect the 20 metre emerald splash

upbeat copper
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Jotaro and Dio: ok

keen crystal
wanton turret
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avdol killed sherry

leaden lagoon
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lol i was confused for a second

winged crest
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guys 『The World』is actually Jonathan's stand
@fossil coral no

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Nobody can just deflect the 20 metre emerald splash
@upbeat copper Jotaro was never hit by it, DIO didn't deflect it he walked out of it

upbeat copper
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Star platinum deflected it tho

near starBOT
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@upbeat copper, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !

keen crystal
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that was a line added in the dub btw

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in the original kakyoin never claimed that the emerald splash was undeflectable

wintry rampart
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presumably kak's first stand battle and this dude was so sure that his move couldn't be deflected. lol

winged crest
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Star Platinum didn't deflect the 20 Meter Emerald Splash

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@upbeat copper

ancient laurel
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To be fair, if Dio couldn't stop time kakyoin would've really injured him

warped haven
ancient laurel
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That big smile on his face

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I know he smiles in the manga but it's still so weird

wanton turret
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Everybody's like "you don't see the intricacies and subtle details within jotaro's character in the anime grrrr"
Like, nah bitch the anime just doesn't let him smile

upbeat copper
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Oh ok my bad

still crag
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lol

leaden lagoon
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god he looks high

wintry rampart
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this hurt my soul.

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so much.

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wait no he isnt gone

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he just lived a happy and quiet life after killing dio.

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yeah thats what happened.

cloud plinth
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he used the wrong there

wintry rampart
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"Shinei kakyoin"

wintry rampart
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||Wait since the baby could turn into any stand (as we see with star platinum) does that mean he could see dio and stop time? Wouldnt that make him the most op stand of part 3?||

leaden lagoon
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||Wait since the baby could turn into any stand (as we see with star platinum) does that mean he could see dio and stop time? Wouldnt that make him the most op stand of part 3?||
@wintry rampart but like

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literally nobody knew what dio could do

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not even enyaba

wintry rampart
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Ig

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But if he did

leaden lagoon
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yeah ig?

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but only in his dream world

wintry rampart
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Yeah

leaden lagoon
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and stopping time is kinda useless bc he can bend the world any way he wants to

wintry rampart
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Oh yeah u right

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Heavens door would be similar but ill discuss that in the other channel maybe

leaden lagoon
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yeah sure

cloud plinth
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yeah the baby only has full power in the dream world

wintry rampart
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baby

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literally nobody knew what dio could do
not even enyaba

Enya was there when Dio stopped time

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👶

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baby

winged crest
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@leaden lagoon Enya knew, D'arby knew, D'arby younger and Vanilla Ice likely knew

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Also to those who think the baby is op

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I don't think DIO sleeps guys

pine ice
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Couldn’t you just throw the baby out of the window

weary turret
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dio sleeps iirc

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hol horse wasn't sure if he was awake

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i thiiink

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though maybe vampiric trances are different in some way

quiet prairie
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knowing jojo if dio fell asleep in front of the baby and he tried to use death 13 dio would have the world in the dream somehow and just murder him

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just a complete asspull but thats exactly what would happen and you know it

past sail
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JoJo doesnt have asspulls

quiet prairie
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JoJo doesnt have asspulls

past sail
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Im right doe

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Name 3

quiet prairie
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im NOT playing these games

dark basin
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well, they don't start getting bad by part 3

past sail
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They arent bad in any part

quiet prairie
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im probably gonna name 3 common ones that have some obscure shit that makes them feasible

dark basin
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although some of the part 2 fights had some of that

quiet prairie
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and then i look like a dummy when u debunk me

past sail
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Well JoJo doesnt have asspulls period

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At least not any I can think of

dark basin
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where it looks like someone's gonna die and then they reveal like "while you were trying to kill me i managed to put these strings in a way so your attack hits you instead"

past sail
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That is not what an asspull is thats just using your ability in a different way

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They didnt pull a new ability out of nowhere

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So its not an asspull

dark basin
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there's apparently a big one at the end of part 5

past sail
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Most fights in JoJo are won by characters using their already existing abilities in a new way and I dont see how that can be considered an asspull

dark basin
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but i haven't gotten that far

past sail
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there's apparently a big one at the end of part 5
@dark basin thats not an asspull either

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But we can't talk about it here

quiet prairie
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when people mention asspulls in jojo its usually not "there is literally no possible way this could happen" its more "ok that happened but so much shit had to coincidentally work out here and there was so much clever shit they would have to do off screen to do that"

past sail
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I dont understand that either

quiet prairie
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but thats part of the charm and why the fights work

leaden lagoon
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ehh the p5 asspull was like a bit too good to be true

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but whatever it all worked out in the end

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the time stop thing with jotaro in my opinion was also kind of a stretch

past sail
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I dont consider it an asspull because it was established what would happen wwaaaaaaayyy before the end

leaden lagoon
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like but only during the fight?

weary turret
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stop talking about part 5

leaden lagoon
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i get it, if the world's strength and speed were shown before jotaro fought him it would've ruined the suspense but seriously?

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just bc they were kinda similar araki drew the conclusion that jotaro could also stop time

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idk i thought jotaro was going to come up with some really clever last-minute idea

dark basin
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It would have been much cooler if Star Platinum got another ability

near starBOT
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@dark basin, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !

dark basin
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Like something different

leaden lagoon
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ig just in general the fall of the major villain is pretty hard to write

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i think only in two parts was i really satisfied with how it ended up being

dark basin
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Also getting shown the episodes out of order kinda killed my enjoyment of part 3 in general

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I kinda already know what happens and everything

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But that does seem like kind of a odd thing to pull

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Just giving 2 stands the same ability

leaden lagoon
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^

dark basin
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I mean, I don’t see a simpler way to make dio lose, unless another strong stand gets introduced that I haven’t seen yet

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The only possible way I can see it happening is if somehow Holly managed to control her stand and by pure luck it does something cool

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Of the stands that are alive as of the beginning of The Sun’s episode, that would be the only way that makes any more sense than what we have

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Unless they did a (dead character) is actually still alive and wants to kill dio

quiet prairie
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i mean

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theres alot of ways that dio couldve lost

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none would really be as satisfying or hype as what actually happened

leaden lagoon
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but there are so many better alternatives as to what really happened

stuck terrace
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STARDUST

DUST CRUSADERS

wintry rampart
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Jesus!

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Those guys can't take a break? They got attacked by three stand users in a span of two days!

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If the crusaders keep getting attacked like this, i bet one of them Will die

wintry rampart
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Wait, now four

forest pewter
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Nice

smoky spoke
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spoiler alert

dio dies

forest pewter
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No fucking way

fossil coral
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spoiler alert

dio has a stand

ancient laurel
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I'm crying and shaking rn

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How tf does DIO have a stand

wintry rampart
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Errr

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You really didn't knew he had a stand?

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It's Impossible there's so many memes about his stand

ancient laurel
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I thought he had hamon

wintry rampart
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You're joking right?

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Ok you're joking

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Why polnareff has so much screen time? He's like the secondary protagonist?

deft dagger
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kinda

wintry rampart
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I thought he had hamon
@ancient laurel I suggest you rewatch part 1

strong eagle
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I tHoUgHt He HaD hAmOn

tribal badge
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Bruh Dio used the mask to become vampire

past sail
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Do you guys not get that that was a joke lol

wanton turret
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With jojo fans, it's legit hard to tell

past sail
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True

winged crest
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the time stop thing with jotaro in my opinion was also kind of a stretch
@leaden lagoon not a streach

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DIO has the Joestar stand which let's him do viewing from far away

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And make spirit photos

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Joseph has the exact same stand

wintry rampart
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Wait dio can do that too?

winged crest
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He got a pick of em from a camera and also looked at them trough a tv

wintry rampart
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Oh yeah

winged crest
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DIO has a punchy boi that stops time, by the previous logic Jotaro gets the same

wintry rampart
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Since he has the same stand card

winged crest
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Just giving 2 stands the same ability
@dark basin Hermit Purple and DIO's Hermit Purple

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Two stands same ability

wintry rampart
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So that would mean jotaro has a hermit purple like stand too

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !

winged crest
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No

wintry rampart
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Yeah because if dio can do it and dio has the same stand as jotaro then

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Jotaros stand is just renamed and redesigned

past sail
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Hermit purple is the hamon user stand so why would Jotaro have it

wintry rampart
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Not exactly hermit purple

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Its ability

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To see things

past sail
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Still why should Jotaro have it

wintry rampart
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Well dio watched the crusaders throught the tv and dio and jotaro have the same stand

past sail
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Dio didnt do that using The World though

wintry rampart
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Oh?

past sail
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It was a hermit purple

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Jonathan's stand supposedly

wintry rampart
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Oh yeah

ancient laurel
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I suggest you rewatch part 1
@wintry rampart
I was just making a joke

wintry rampart
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oh

wintry rampart
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Stardust is da best

leaden lagoon
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bet

cloud plinth
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debateable

winged crest
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Subjective

timid dawn
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debatable

winged crest
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It being subjective is not debatable

cloud plinth
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It's his opinion, I just disagree with it

wintry rampart
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N’Doul could’ve killed iggy

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But he didn’t

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Respect

wanton turret
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Where in the fight could he have killed iggy

near starBOT
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@wanton turret, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 51 !

wanton turret
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If it's in the stand-off against jotaro, he'd leave himself defenseless if he attacked iggy, jotaro would take that chance any day

wintry rampart
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it was when iggy was sleeping and didn't do anything

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He realized that he wouldn't do anything so he didn't kill him

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unlike danny, the dog in the cable car and the one in the corpse town, iggy is really lucky to survive for a long time

wanton turret
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Tbh I wouldn't needlessly kill a sleeping dog too

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Since it was obvious it didn't want to cooperate with the gang

winged crest
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He should have then he could win

dark basin
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the dog in Justice was already dead

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for all we know, it lived a long, happy life and died of old age

dark basin
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ok, The Sun gets the title of stupidest fight so far

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what the HELL was that

wintry rampart
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The Sun is the weirdest stand I've seen in the show

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How are there mirrors looking at rocks and reflecting that on the crusaders' eyes?

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also Jotaro threw a rock at the guy, but how did he know where he was???????

ancient laurel
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Two rocks lol

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No I think a bug or something went behind the mirror and disappeared from view

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They really should've died in that fight, the heat was at least 300°c since metal melted

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The camels all fucking died and they are adapted to hot weather much better than humans

dark basin
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it was 2 identical rocks

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so jotaro had a 50/50 shot of getting it right on the first throw

ancient laurel
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I honestly didn't understand that fight for like a month since I thought the mirrors caused the sun stand to heat up or something stupid

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Then I realised the stand user was hiding behind a mirror

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The mirror had nothing to do with the stand

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Real small brain moment

flint yacht
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Me too, I watched it and rewatched it so many times, but I still feel like a joseph jostar

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I was so confused on which rock was he hiding behind and how did star platinum got a headshot on that guy

flint yacht
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I am still confused, the mirror was facing the crusaders, how did it reflect the stone?

winged crest
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It might have been diagonal idk

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Star Platinum could probably see it was a mirror tho what with it's sniper scope like eyes

mellow hawk
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Helo

wintry rampart
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vtfrr

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i hate people with the last name Brando

mellow hawk
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. . .

wintry rampart
rancid island
native spear
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the sun is genuinely just a fucking stupid arc lmfao

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like theres not much excuse to it

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its just really genuinely dumb

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pretty much every aspect of it demands that you give your suspension of disbelief a massive fucking workout

olive fulcrum
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ngl

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i think that can be said about a lot of the arcs in sdc

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cause i mean they're entertaining

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but half of the egyptian god stands could've been taken out and it would still make sense

woven dagger
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You even suggesting they take out Oingo Boingo Brothers?

olive fulcrum
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LMAO I MEAN

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i didnt say all that ok

native spear
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see i see where youre coming from and youre absolutely not wrong

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sdc is the biggest part where youll be saying "oh i guess they can do that now"

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other than a certain later part where its "oh i guess they cant do that now"

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but id argue that The Sun is the most irritating one

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cuz its the most blatant filler ever

woven dagger
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Ahem

native spear
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and honestly its just so fucking silly

wispy isle
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future part moment

native spear
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who cares

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i didnt mention a name or a part

wispy isle
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not you

native spear
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?

olive fulcrum
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which part were you mentioning

weary turret
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sun is two chapters

olive fulcrum
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out of curiosity

weary turret
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who cares

woven dagger
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5

near starBOT
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@woven dagger, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !

olive fulcrum
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oh true

woven dagger
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Yay

native spear
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@weary turret the conversation was specifically about the sun arc

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so im discussing

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(get this)

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the sun arc

olive fulcrum
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LMAO

native spear
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isnt that crazy

weary turret
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what

wispy isle
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what

native spear
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im not saying the sun arc detracts enjoyment from the part im just saying its a silly arc

woven dagger
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Hey, it gave us the two rocks

native spear
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i get its just two chapters / one episode, im not throwing a fit over it lmfao

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im just saying its silly

valid meteor
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the sun arc was funnier in the manga when it was a 2 chapter set-up and punchline joke

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doesn't really work in the anime when it's as long as a usual episode

native spear
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i could see that being the case

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yeah that def made it a bit more annoying

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like i dont just fucking despise the arc or anything i just think its a waste of time (at least in the anime) in an already bloated part

olive fulcrum
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you're right tbh

woven dagger
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SDC was way too bloated

native spear
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in the manga you could just zoom through it so i imagine it doesnt matter as much

olive fulcrum
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and yeah cause in the anime it's a full 20 minutes of joseph going OH MY GOD and ur just like wazoskistare

valid meteor
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the manga is better

native spear
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sdc is a good part but it suffers from too much literally everything

valid meteor
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daily reminder an all

woven dagger
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It was obvious it was Araki being like “Hah, I’ll name the stands after Tarot Cards” then he realised he had to make EVERY card

native spear
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lol

woven dagger
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That’s how we get stands such as “Car” “Literal Sun” and “Magic Fog”

native spear
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SDC is ultimately saved by the arcs that do work well though

valid meteor
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nah araki was just making shorter arcs back then

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and they ARE shorter arcs

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But you wouldn't know that, because again, the anime is bloated as fuck

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Wheel of Fortune is like 3 chapters

woven dagger
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3 chapters is like 1 episode or something in other anime

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They made it 2 episodes.

valid meteor
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no they made it 1

native spear
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unfortunate consequence of the medium

valid meteor
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but even then, that's still too long

native spear
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but i don’t think it makes the anime bad

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it’s definitely a weaker part though bc of it

valid meteor
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The anime would be a million times better if it was 39 episodes like the rest

wanton turret
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Araki is a hack, he made 15+ enemies which started off decent but ended up just being one-offs AND THEN made 10 more that pretty much is of higher quality than the first 15+

olive fulcrum
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alr so other than the sun

native spear
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i gave the first season of SDC a 6/10 and the second season an 8/10

olive fulcrum
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which other stands do you think could've been cut out

native spear
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first season of SDC is the lowest rated one for me

woven dagger
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I really think Ebony Devil could’ve been cut

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Same with Wheel of Fortune

valid meteor
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Wheel of Fortune and Dark Blue Moon

native spear
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see honestly mackie i’m glad they didn’t cut any of it out lol

valid meteor
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You don't need two "vehical stands" and you don't need two "sea stands"

olive fulcrum
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yeah

woven dagger
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We can never cut Strength though

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Monkey boat

valid meteor
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Sun is just comedy

olive fulcrum
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it makes it all the more rewarding when you finish it

valid meteor
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Also Alessi

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He can go

woven dagger
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Ew

olive fulcrum
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bruhhh no

native spear
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@valid meteor joshu

woven dagger
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That was just uncomfortable

olive fulcrum
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but it was so good

wanton turret
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Araki shoulda cut out Khnum, and just put the rest of the egypt god stands as tarot stands instead

woven dagger
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Not in the “Oh, he’s evil” kind of uncomfortable

native spear
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alessi was def uncomfortable but it was a great arc

woven dagger
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Just the “I feel dirty” uncomfortable

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And I didn’t really like it

native spear
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that’s 100% fair

olive fulcrum
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alessi, n'doul, and death 13 are some of the best imo

valid meteor
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Remember how the Alessi and Mariah arcs happened simultaneously?
You literally could just replace Alessi with Anubis in that segment and it would have had the same effect

native spear
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there are parts of that episode that i honestly wish they just cut out entirely

valid meteor
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And it's a better arc too

woven dagger
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Death 13 hurt

near starBOT
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@woven dagger, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !

native spear
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anubis is forgettable

olive fulcrum
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^

native spear
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imo

valid meteor
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Nah, chaka's cool

woven dagger
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ANUBIS IS AMAZING

native spear
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chaka is cool as shit

valid meteor
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And you get BLACK POLNAREFF

woven dagger
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Easily one of my favourite arcs of SDC

valid meteor
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Polnareff vs Jotaro

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c'mon now

native spear
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but the anubis arc itself kinda just zoomed by

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ok you know what

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yeah

woven dagger
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Khan didn’t need to be there though

native spear
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you’re right

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the jotaro v polnareff fight was dope

woven dagger
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They could’ve had Jotaro there with Pol, Polnareff accidentally unsheathes the sword and epic fight

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Khan was like 5 minutes of fluff

native spear
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after catching up entirely with all canon jojo’s storyline i feel like i can safely say that DIO’S WORLD arc is one of the most incredible arcs in the series, top 5 at least

valid meteor
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true, true thats aaaaaaand thats pretty true

woven dagger
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I prefer Dio vs. Jotaro in the OVA

valid meteor
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true

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true

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thats true

olive fulcrum
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the animation for the ova was so ahead of it's time

native spear
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same arc, different interpretation

valid meteor
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I prefer Dio Vs Jotaro in the CD Drama

woven dagger
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That car spin DIO does

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That is SO smooth

native spear
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@valid meteor dude

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they fucking killed those stand rushes

valid meteor
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it's so fucking metal

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norio wakamato man

native spear
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those performances were fucking brutal

woven dagger
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Is the CD drama on YouTube?

native spear
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endless respect for those dude

valid meteor
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ill get them rushes

native spear
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yeah believe so

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at least partially

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unsure on TL status

woven dagger
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Oh nice, I’m probably gonna watch that at some time

timid dawn
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does anyone have the voice clip of jotaro or a video of jotaro saying "he can come on"?

wintry rampart
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In the anime, Why is Jotaro’s stand aura purple at the start of part 3 but during the fight with DIO, it’s a minor thing, but it just never made sense to me

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !

native spear
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@wintry rampart i don’t have an answer but i’d note that the og manga had no color (obv) so i would be surprised if it’s just a DP decision

wintry rampart
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Personally I think the purple aura looks better, but that might just be me

winged crest
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The gold aura was probably to further cement how similar The World and Star Platinum are

flint yacht
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Yeah, thats a really good point

wintry rampart
valid meteor
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There he is!

wintry rampart
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black chariot!

covert mica
opaque nimbus
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y'all ever think about how Holly is a HoJo

ancient laurel
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Holly got robbed of her part

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Literally the only joestar to not get a part

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Apart from George

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But he got a whole novel

worthy umbra
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If there was a joestar named Moe or Molly or smthn

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MoJo

ancient laurel
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Stand master: Molly (Mojo) Joestar
Stand name: [Top 10 List]

tribal badge
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I wish hamon was used alittle more in SDC

winged crest
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Apart from George
Ah yes let's forget George Joestar II

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But he got a whole novel
@ancient laurel that novel isn't canon, and that's Jorge Joestar in the novel as opposed to George Joestar

ancient laurel
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I thought it was George as in Joesph's dad

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But spelled differently so that he could be a jojo

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And even if the book isn't canon it's more than Holly got

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Too op

winged crest
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Holly isn't somebody who has the will to fight people to the death/grevious injury

ancient laurel
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Joesph got to keep his hamon since his stand is a vine

winged crest
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A lot of good it did him

ancient laurel
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I know but araki screwed her over

winged crest
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He didn't

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She's a sweet mom

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Why should a sweet mom fight

ancient laurel
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She is hojo

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She's just the odd one out of all the joestars

tribal badge
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Holly weak af

cloud plinth
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I just forget she's a character at all

tribal badge
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I forgot you existed

strong eagle
dark basin
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if Jotaro were to get hurt infront of her i think she might've been able to manifest her stand

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actually, that list is out of order but it's still right

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swap The World with Holly's Stand

tribal badge
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WOAHHHHHHHH

wanton turret
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Jotaro got hurt in front of her like, in his clash with avdol

strong eagle
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only thing put of order in what you see in the image is The World, start counting from Tower of Gray

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Tower of Gray was the first stand they encountered that didnt switch sides

weary turret
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The Fool

strong eagle
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The Fool was never an enemy stand

weary turret
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arguable

strong eagle
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even if you do think that The Fool was partially an enemy, it did switch sides

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so, still no

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and plus, they didnt encounter The Fool until Eygpt

dark basin
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Jotaro got hurt in front of her like, in his clash with avdol
@wanton turret but since Avdol was Joseph’s friend, Holly knew he was in no real danger

strong eagle
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Avdol said he wasnt afraid to send Jotaro to the hospital if he had to

wanton turret
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And Joseph gave him permission to be able to go all out

dark basin
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Yeah but she knew he wasn’t gonna kill him, also she didn’t have her stand at that point

thorn ore
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||Bro didn’t you die in this part|| @strong eagle

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🤔

strong eagle
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And Joseph gave him permission to be able to go all out

avdol was able to kill or nearly kill Jotaro if he had to

thorn ore
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WHAT...THE FRICK... ARE YOU DOING HERE

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D I O

strong eagle
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can you arent, thanks

thorn ore
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Damn alright

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😔

torpid basin
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joseph does use his hamon once or twice during sdc

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i think he did during the steely dan fight with his hermit purple for when the lovers infiltrated his brain

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the overdrive thing

crystal lion
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He also used it as defense against DIO

stone matrix
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So, Dio's stand is stronger than Jotero's right?

flint yacht
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Cant joseph surround himself with a ball of hermit purple?

stone matrix
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Yeah but then Dio could just throw knives

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Also

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Dio can shoot lazor from his eyes

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Why does he never utilise this?

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Also another question

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So many plot holes

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Holly

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Why is she still alive

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What I mean by that is

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Jotaro, Joseph still have their stands

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So wouldnt that mean that Holly does too

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Which would mean shes meant to die

near starBOT
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@stone matrix, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !

stone matrix
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Woah, thanks

flint yacht
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Why does he never utilise this?
Maybe because jonathan's blood wont coop

robust portal
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Why would holly die

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Dios influence made the stand go out of control to a point she couldn’t handle it when he dies the stand reverts to a normal state where it can’t harm her anymore

winged crest
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Jotaro, Joseph still have their stands
@stone matrix they have full control over their stands

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Holly's stand goes back to being dormant

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It's still there

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Also DIO needs blood energy shit to heal, from my understanding of the Straits fight and his explenations Space Ripper Stingy Eyes uses up this energy vampires need in order to heal

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So using it would not be beneficial

torpid basin
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just thoughts i have but if jonathan's body still had his head and not dio's would that mean jonathan's stand wouldve been the world

winged crest
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No

robust portal
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it wouldve been a hermit purple type ability

winged crest
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You see what would have been Jonathan's stand

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The other stand that DIO used like twice

torpid basin
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thatd be interesting

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wait now that i think about it

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dios stand is probably only really powerful because of all the joestar blood in him

winged crest
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No

torpid basin
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idk what my thoughts are supposed to mean lol

winged crest
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Xforts titling the video as if there are plot holes lmao

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Even tho i didn't see even one in the two times i watched SDC

wintry rampart
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So, Dio's stand is stronger than Jotero's right?
@stone matrix It's confirmed that The World is superior than Star Platinum in both the anime and Manga

winged crest
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The World and Star Platinum are pretty evenly matched

stone matrix
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Ok

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Thank you all for filling in the holes

wintry rampart
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It's confirmed that The World is superior than Star Platinum in both the anime and Manga
but they both have the same tarot card

stone matrix
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They do?

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You shouldnt come to this chat because you might get spoiled

wintry rampart
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No I’m ok

stone matrix
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Ah ok

wintry rampart
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And I think I’m almost to the part with dio

stone matrix
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Btw, why is boku no hero academia good

wintry rampart
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WHAT THE HECK

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AH

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This just went from sad to EVILLLLLLL!

stone matrix
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?

wintry rampart
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I’ve seen worse

stone matrix
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You alright?

wintry rampart
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I’m on Judgement part 2

stone matrix
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Ohhh

wintry rampart
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I’m just mad that the stupid

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Wish granting guy

stone matrix
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lmao it gets better dw

wintry rampart
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WIAT

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I mean

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Wait

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I’m on part 1

stone matrix
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huh

wintry rampart
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Netflix does that

stone matrix
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youre on jonathan?

wintry rampart
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When ur almost done

stone matrix
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I have one more question though

wintry rampart
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?

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I don’t know how autocorrect autocorrected Wiat

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !

wintry rampart
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Yeah?

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No I’m on judgement part one and almost done

torpid basin
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jotaro looks sweaty in part 3

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thats why i want to hug him

wintry rampart
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Now I’m on judgement part 2

wintry rampart
still crag
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iggy is a little sob

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his stand is so cool though.

bold ridge
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yes sand

stone matrix
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Anyways my question

near starBOT
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@stone matrix, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !

bold ridge
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nice

stone matrix
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How did Dio go against Kakyoin's emerald splash

bold ridge
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stronk

stone matrix
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Its an invisible attack

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No, no matter how strong Dio is

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It should be impossible

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Btw

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Your pfp is pretty gangsta

bold ridge
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he said no one can defeat the emerald splash, because he hadnt seen anyone do it, he was just misinformed about the strength of his attack

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i think

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Your pfp is pretty gangsta
@stone matrix thank