#stardust-crusaders

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atomic tulip
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doesnt it

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lol

wintry rampart
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i dont like dub peed agon

atomic tulip
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i watched it in sub on netflix

faint cape
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Yeah it is subbed

low arrow
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joseph accent cahnge

wintry rampart
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i only found dub wtf

atomic tulip
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you have to

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go into audio settings while watching

low arrow
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get a vpn and set it to japan

atomic tulip
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no

placid quiver
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come on can be one of it's meanings when used in a sentence yeah

atomic tulip
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yeah but even during reg fights

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when SP is punching he goes ora ora

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and it subs as come on so

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idk :-/

wintry rampart
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I thought come on was Chariot's thing

atomic tulip
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no

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i dont think chariot has a thing

wintry rampart
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apparently he says hora

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but ive never heard it

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ik he said pami on the alessi episode

atomic tulip
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oh yeah that's true isn't

low arrow
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wait a sec why can't dio just spam the time stop thing?

atomic tulip
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i've heard around that he says hora because he copies JK

wintry rampart
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because plot refuses him to

atomic tulip
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i believe he has to wait the amount of time he stopped

faint cape
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He can only do it for like 9 seconds

atomic tulip
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before he can do it again

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like if he does it for 5

wintry rampart
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I mean he kinda does spam it

atomic tulip
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he has to wait 5 secs before doing it again

wintry rampart
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during the "fetch me my leg" scene

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when he's just hoppin around

atomic tulip
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true i guess

placid quiver
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i forgot the difference between ora and hora just ignore my stupidity FFgrimacing

atomic tulip
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lmao

wintry rampart
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I cant even tell SP says ora

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its sounds more like ruruurrururururururururur

atomic tulip
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lmao

placid quiver
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when moving fast yeah ur right

wintry rampart
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which tbh if anyone tries to say ora really fast its gonna sound like that

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !

atomic tulip
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is it spoilers to say a stand cry from another part

wintry rampart
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to be safe id say yes

placid quiver
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in the manga it rapid punches are written "oraoraoraoraora"

atomic tulip
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yeah thats what i thought

low arrow
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i thought it was rao rao rao rao first

atomic tulip
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i wuz gonna talk abt josuke's cry but

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better safe than sorry

faint cape
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Ora was in subs

wintry rampart
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oh if its just a main jojo

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i dont think it matters

light dragon
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I wonder who's that Josuke guy josukewhat

wintry rampart
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crazy diamonds is dorarara right

atomic tulip
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lmao

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yeah

light dragon
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I didn't see him in this part

placid quiver
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can't even say his name it's a spoiler hypereyes

faint cape
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Ye

atomic tulip
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O_O

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dont all main jojo have stand cries based off of ora though

placid quiver
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no

atomic tulip
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im only in the middle of DIU so

wintry rampart
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giornos is muda

atomic tulip
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oh really?

faint cape
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Nice

placid quiver
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SPOILER MOMENT

wintry rampart
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yeah

faint cape
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Lol

atomic tulip
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lmadodfmkf

lone hatch
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who is giorno

faint cape
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Spoiler central

low arrow
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gio isnt a jojo tho

atomic tulip
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Yeah who's Giorno?

light dragon
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Guys, we can't speak future parts in here

placid quiver
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shhhhhhhhh

lone hatch
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i dont know the character giorno from jojo's bizarre adventure parts 1-3

placid quiver
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SHHHHHHHHHHH

faint cape
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NO SPOILER

lone hatch
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who is that guys

placid quiver
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SEVERAL PEOPLE ARE TYPING

wintry rampart
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idk im just coming up with random people as only 3 parts of this series has been invented

low arrow
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i mean cough cough gio? who's that

placid quiver
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qrno

atomic tulip
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I've never heard of a Giornoyareyaredaze

faint cape
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Jorno

atomic tulip
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LOL

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jorno jovanna is my oc

low arrow
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I only know his name

placid quiver
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but the thing is you don't-

atomic tulip
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this is stardust crusaders

low arrow
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do you prefer half 1 or half 2 of SC

atomic tulip
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half 2

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definitely

wintry rampart
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^

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but half 1 intro is better

low arrow
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yeah

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well

placid quiver
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in what world

low arrow
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debatable

wintry rampart
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half 2 intro has that cool TimeStop thing on the final episodes

placid quiver
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both halves are guretu i can't choose

faint cape
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Stand up stand up stand up

wintry rampart
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alright now alright now alright now

atomic tulip
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i cried when ||iggy died||

lone hatch
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stand proud is a legitimately good song whereas sono chi no kioku is not a good song but the package as a whole (visuals + music) makes it hype

faint cape
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Za Furu

low arrow
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half 2s intro was good, it just got ruined by everyone in the group saying ora like a team handshake at the end of it

placid quiver
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pft

wintry rampart
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Sono Chi No Kioku is just

atomic tulip
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i liked that

wintry rampart
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I barely keep up with the beat

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Sono Chino Kioku is slept on so hard

placid quiver
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sono chi no kioku i my fucking jam ok

low arrow
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which is that

wintry rampart
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also on the beginning part when it shows the crusaders and their stands I swear it says "and iggy too"

faint cape
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The beginning of op 2 is really good with the clock

placid quiver
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^

next chasm
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sono chi no bruhdame

wintry rampart
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yeah the clock was cool

placid quiver
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if you look closely in stand proud, you can see a 6th shooting star, probably meant for iggy

light dragon
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My brother said he hated Sono Chi no Kiouku when he reached that part of Part 3

wintry rampart
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but the real highlight is when DIO shows up and timestops the intro

light dragon
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:(

low arrow
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I thought the clock was there because Dio was gonna be all victorian but ig not

atomic tulip
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lol

lone hatch
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im pretty sure the first like 30 seconds of sono chi no kioku is a homage to castlevania

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payback for all the times castlevania referenced jojo

wintry rampart
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wouldnt be surprised

placid quiver
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i gtg don't have too much fun discussing scnk without me lmao

low arrow
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SONO CHI NO SADAME

next chasm
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if you pay really close attention to the dio-ified sono chi no kioku, you can see dio stop time and walk forward several steps before the timestop runs out

wintry rampart
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JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOJO

low arrow
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JOOOOOOOOO

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JO

faint cape
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I always get mixed up with the ops

placid quiver
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(jojo)

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🎷

faint cape
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I just call it end of the world

wintry rampart
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you dont really have to pay attention

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its literally

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just right there

low arrow
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I missed it the first time

next chasm
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well excuse me, some of us dont have stands

wintry rampart
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lol

low arrow
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yeah

wintry rampart
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my stand is incognito mode

low arrow
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some of us dont have stands

wintry rampart
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you're literally star platinum

low arrow
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some of us have users instead

next chasm
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and does star platinum have a stand??? checkmate

low arrow
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no

wintry rampart
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fuck u right 😭

low arrow
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he doesnt

light dragon
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Jotaro Kujo

low arrow
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I just have an edgy man who I cant tell if his hair or its a hat

wintry rampart
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its not hair

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its his head

next chasm
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it's not hat either...

wintry rampart
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its just oddly shaped so he tried to make it look like a hat

faint cape
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What if his head is a hat

near starBOT
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@faint cape, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !

low arrow
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it's a beard

wintry rampart
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Are we talking about Jotaro's hat again?

next chasm
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are you proposing that jotaro kujo is only real from the neck down

wintry rampart
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always

faint cape
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Yare yare daze

wintry rampart
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the spongebob pic

low arrow
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I actually flipped his head round and gave his bearda cool stylke

atomic tulip
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How does Jotaro's hat work

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@wintry rampart you're welcome

wintry rampart
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ok so you see

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cartoon

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mystery solved

atomic tulip
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cartoon hat

low arrow
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his hat is a cartoon

faint cape
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It was kinda weird after the car stand Jotaro manages to get exact copy of his clothes

low arrow
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It's a spinoff

wintry rampart
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yeah

low arrow
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JJBA SC: Mystery Apparell

next chasm
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star platinum's real power isn't time stop, it's jotaro's hat being able to fuse with his head

wintry rampart
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joseph even mentioned it was weird he could find someone in pakistan who could make perfect japanese school uniforms

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but it was never touched on again

low arrow
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they battle it out for which style is best

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Polnareff's hair + jotaro's hat

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ok so Joseph is dead so how do they kill DIo without hamon?

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wait nvm the sun exists

atomic tulip
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LOL

low arrow
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i just got to the "fetch me my leg" scene

light dragon
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Be careful with seeing a spoiler in here

low arrow
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ok yer he's spamming it

light dragon
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But good luck with your watch!!!!!

wintry rampart
light dragon
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It's seriously one of the hypest parts of all of JoJo

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I was so pumped when I showed that part to my brother

wintry rampart
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I think we're getting to borderline #manga-jojokes territory with this conversation.

low arrow
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!youtube annoying orange knife

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BRUH

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THE KNIVES WENT THROUGH HIS HEAD, IN HIS CHEST, THERE WAS BLOOD EVERYWHERE

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"It was books"

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no it fucking wasnt

solid bane
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books slowed the impact

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they're knives not bullets

low arrow
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I''ve juat realized that the time stop is the exact same as the one in sonic mania

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visuals and sound

wintry rampart
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It's been a while since I've played Mania, but now thatcha mention it is pretty similar.

low arrow
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ok jotaro got shot

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now tell me it "slowed the impact"

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FFS OFC STAR CAUGHT IT

light dragon
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uwu

wintry rampart
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fast af boiiii

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Ohhh Last Train Home just came on my playlist and now I'm sad.

low arrow
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i prefer Roundabout

lone hatch
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never got the last train home hype

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ill take walk like an egyptian any day

wintry rampart
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My favorite outro is part four's

low arrow
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there's a part 4?

near starBOT
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@low arrow, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !

low arrow
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When you hear Jotaro's theme you know shit's going down

light dragon
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Indeed

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:3

low arrow
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ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S BEEN REMASTERED

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oml dio just looks gay now

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LAST EPISODE BBY

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road... roaller?

wintry rampart
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Road Roller, indeed.

low arrow
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I thought Caesar was DIo when I first saw him in the intro

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then I met him and I was like n

wintry rampart
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Surprisingly a lot of people mistake Caesar for Dio.

low arrow
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it's the hair and body type

storm turtle
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my classmate thought caesar was dio's son or his reincarnation

low arrow
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I want Star Platinum irl

light dragon
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Who doesn't :P

low arrow
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funny how he isn't refered to as Dio Brando anymore

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and wtf

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the last episode was so shit

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It was just like a tough stand episode

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like lover or that creepy baby shadow one

storm turtle
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people use dio brando to refer to part 1 dio

low arrow
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this was about as good and pretty much the same as teh Hail2U episode

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So Jotaro can bring people back to life now

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ofc he can

cosmic mirage
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um anyone know about the ova

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is this real?

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i cant tell

hearty shell
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yes

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it is very real

lone hatch
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um

hearty shell
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its as real as it can get

lone hatch
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jotaro did that in the normal series too

wintry rampart
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the ova is real yes

lone hatch
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remember jotaro vs kakyoin

wintry rampart
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or is it just a conspiracy

lone hatch
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where kakyoin had hierophant green inside the body of the nurse

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and then jotaro ripped it out with his mouth

hearty shell
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the ova was a romantic comedy instead of a epic shounen

lone hatch
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yea thats in the ova too except instead of a nurse its a female student

hearty shell
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they took some liberties

low arrow
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wtf

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why doesnt Hierophant Green take people over anymore?

wintry rampart
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well taking over people seems kinda evil

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especially since its something dio does

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so i guess he just stopped

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and started using Emerald Sucks

low arrow
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why are people posting jojo characters as bananas?

lone hatch
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in the ONE kakyoin fight besides jotaro vs kakyoin and tower of gray (which both barely count), kakyoin uses the posessing thing

cosmic mirage
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oh ok

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it just looks like a fat smooch

weary turret
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dio's world....

pastel cairn
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so i looked at that scene again because i forgot he kissed her in anime too

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surprised star platinum

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and jotaro

dusk agate
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nanee

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*nane

hearty shell
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quick guys i need that shot from the ova where dio has the knives in his hands

wintry rampart
versed python
hearty shell
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@wintry rampart thank you

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i will use that image wisely

magic bay
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Unpopular opinion: sono chi no kioku is my 2nd favorite op

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Idk why

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It's probably because it hypes me up everytime I listen to it

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Even though I finished watching sc

white dew
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It's a good op it has so much hype

wintry rampart
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I adore Sono Chino Kioku so much and I want people to appreciate it more

magic bay
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Me too

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Actually

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Sono chi no kioku would be my top 3

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I have to reserve the first 2 spots for fighting gold and bloody stream

dusk agate
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I absolutely love it it just sounds so epic and the instrumental is great

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its so underated imo

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Like nobody ever talks about it

dusk thorn
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@true mango (016)#1422

dusk thorn
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@true mango (016)#1422

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Yoooo

true mango
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Who the fuck are tou

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You

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And why the fuck u pinging me

wintry rampart
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he might’ve been tryna ping someone else with your name

wintry rampart
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why didnt joseph use hermit purple with hamon to attack dio instead of using hermit putple with hamon to protect himself he couldve killed dio or made it easier for jotaro

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guess dio's plot armor was too effective

lone hatch
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he did

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he literally did do that

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it just didn’t work

wintry rampart
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guess his hamon was weak af during sc

lone hatch
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probably

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well i’m pretty sure what happened was joseph wrapped hermit purple around dio then transmitted hamon through it

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but dip shrugged off the vines before he hamon hit him

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dio*

wintry rampart
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i was also confused why he didnt use hamon against mariah when he grabbed her with hermit purple

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but i assume his hamon is just wrecked during sc

versed python
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They showed his battle power chart or whatever it is during mistime , it was pretty weak

viscid carbon
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Hermit Purple would've never got close to Dio when used on the offense because The World would block it, and although hamon would hurt Dio's body it'd do nothing to his stand

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@wintry rampart Hamon doesn't hurt living beings unless you're Kars and using a massive overload of it

meager spear
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Caesar euthanizes Mark with hamon when he gets cut in half

strong gale
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Caesar also beat a guy with a hamon-infused wrench in his youth, killing him

vernal umbra
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I’m on episode 26 and this is one of the first few times I see Jotaro with no hat

last coral
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Also Hamon Mind Control ft. Caesar

viral beacon
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Ollo

ruby lintel
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Dont expect much hatless jotaro

viral beacon
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Oingo

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Boingo

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Hat hair level 10

weary turret
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the guy caesar beat the shit out of lived

viral beacon
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Who?

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Something about not being in the right chat

wintry rampart
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Is Jotaro a Gary stue ?

dusk agate
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nope

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he has flaws

wintry rampart
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What are his flaws ?

dusk agate
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well uh

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so you see-

valid meteor
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...

dusk agate
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._.

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Haha I actually can't list any flaws

valid meteor
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Is this every character I don't like is a Gary Stu/Mary Sue Day?

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There's a lot of qualifications for being a Gary Stu, and Jotaro doesn't fill many of them

meager spear
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His flaw is that he isn’t interesting

valid meteor
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banned

near starBOT
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@valid meteor, Your Stand Power is now level 26 !

meager spear
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Nah dude he kinda sucks

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He calls his mom a bitch and then is overshadowed by Polnareff for the rest of the part

valid meteor
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Whatever you say my guy

low arrow
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i think he epic tho ngl

wintry rampart
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A gary stue is an overpowered character who gets their magic powers without working for it that's all. @valid meteor

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !

arctic trail
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he did kinda need a new direction in his life

valid meteor
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There's a little more to it than that.

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Context is important as well. Jotaro doesn't need to work to get his powers, but niether do ANY other stand user in the series

arctic trail
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so in effect, that argument is invalid but

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jotaro is still well liked mostly everywhere

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well...

low arrow
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I think jotaro was pretty boring now that I think about it

arctic trail
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popular

low arrow
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he really dodn't have anything defining other than he had an OP stand and was pretty edgy

arctic trail
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i beg to differ, actually

valid meteor
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Also, there's other shit to it like the characters usually being defined by their powers, instead of their power simply being a part of them and so on blah blah blah.
Idk, go to TVtropes or sumth

wintry rampart
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He has a couple of things in SDC going for him, though I can agree that he may be comparitively less interesting than other JoJos.

low arrow
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Joseph had that overly confident feel and always was like "now you're going to say..." to confuse his enemies

arctic trail
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base character level wise it's always uninteresting

low arrow
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Jonathan was a gentleman who always put others first

wintry rampart
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Exactly. Jotaro is a gary stue. But gary stues are not always bad. That's the thing. Almost everyone in jojo is a gary stue. Which is why the gary stueness works here. Because of the setting of the series. Who said that gary stue = bad all the time ?

arctic trail
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there's always the "how" of what's delivered

low arrow
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Jotaro just had a basic character

wintry rampart
valid meteor
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I didn't say being a Gary Stu was an inherintly bad thing, did I? I just said Jotaro isn't one.

wintry rampart
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Are you trying to tell me that Jonathon is more interesting than Jotaro? Cause I extremely disagree with that.

arctic trail
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it's way more visual. that's that

valid meteor
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Unless you're using a real loose definition of the term

low arrow
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@wintry rampart ok yeah jonathan was worse

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but he had more character

arctic trail
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x

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to doubt

wintry rampart
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There is no actually concrete definition for gary stues. They just get recognized easily when a series is shit

arctic trail
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being nice doesn't mean you have a character

valid meteor
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When you boil it down, every jojo is just based on a standard shonen archetype, so trying to argue that any jojo is "generic" is a pretty schleep argument

low arrow
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I felt that SDC was more about Pollnareff and Joseph rather than Jotaro

wintry rampart
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Jonathon was more outspoken than Jotaro, ergo he had more seemingly character defining moments. Jotaro is a mostly internal character.

valid meteor
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How was it MORE about Joseph?

arctic trail
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they basically neutered joseph for jotaro

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wtf

wintry rampart
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Screentime @valid meteor

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Joseph got less battles and screentime than Jotaro, if I remember right.

valid meteor
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Screentime????

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Do you not think Jotaro has the most screentime in the part?

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Cus he fucking does

low arrow
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idk it just felt like it was more for JoJo II than Jotaro

arctic trail
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joseph was a side chick at best

wintry rampart
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Polenareff had most screentime mostly

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Polnareff was the most developed character in SDC, and Joseph is inheritly important to the story, sure. That doesn't undercut Jotaro's importance to the plot, though.

arctic trail
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Joseph set the story in motion

meager spear
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Jotaro is a side character for a lot of episodes

arctic trail
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and had them get that going

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that's...basically that

valid meteor
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I get the "Polnareff is da tru MAIN character" thing Cus he gets more character defining moments, he does, but Joseph? He's a meme character at worst, and the 2nd most important side character at best

meager spear
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I can name 4 episode sets that mainly feature polnareff

valid meteor
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wow 4 out of 48

low arrow
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I think there should have been a few more eps based on Jotaro's development where he could be different

arctic trail
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but apart from the final battle and him understanding stands

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and what comes after sdc

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there wasn't much in the way of that

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imo

meager spear
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Jotaro only has the slight semblance of personality after part 3

wintry rampart
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Never mind, Jotaro is no gary stue. He got his ass kicked by a rat KindaSus

arctic trail
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yeah

wintry rampart
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Like I said, Jotaro is a mostly internal character. Even though sure, Jotaro seems less reactionary than other characters, that doesn't mean there's nothing there.

valid meteor
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JoJo's hardly develop. Side characters are the ones that get the "growth" arc more often than no in JoJo's. But I'd be surprised if many people felt the EXACT same way about any JoJo at the beginning that the did at the end.

wintry rampart
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Also spoilers, @wintry rampart

arctic trail
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Jotaro's different for the fact that this part is important for him to grow

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and it sets in motion what the rest of his run will be

low arrow
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tbh, I don't really think the story of SDC would change too much if Jotaro wasn't there (apart from the final battle ofc)

arctic trail
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and you can't say Jonathan didn't grow

wintry rampart
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@wintry rampart is it really. But ok

arctic trail
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you're bullshitting us right

low arrow
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and the start

valid meteor
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Lame argument

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It always was and always will be

wintry rampart
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Yes it is. You dirrectly brought up a plotpoint from the next part.

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@wintry rampart ok

valid meteor
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"You could remove them and nothign would happen!!!"
Just not true fam

arctic trail
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isn't the fact that

low arrow
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If Kakyoin, Iggy, Avdol, Joseph and Polnareff were a team from the start then I think it would be almost the same

arctic trail
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he basically saves the crusaders most of the time

wintry rampart
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Jotaro might call his mom a bitch. But he traveled the world just to save her. He obviously loves her

arctic trail
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just important for the story to go into motion

dusk agate
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He asked her if she was ok too, he's a nice guy it's just hidden under all that angst

low arrow
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Without jotaro, it would still be, Holly gets ill, they have to travel to Egypt to kill Dio to save her

valid meteor
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"If Joseph didn't exist, then Caesar and Lisa Lisa would probably still fight the Pillar Man!!"
This arguement is just fucking nothing

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So what?

low arrow
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not really because caesar died and Lisa Lisa was unconcuss

valid meteor
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"Fight"

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Not "beat" "fight"

low arrow
#

ok

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they wouldnt be able to fight them

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because Kars would have killed Lisa Lisa

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and Caesar wwould have been dead

valid meteor
#

That's what you say.
I say, Caesar would die, and then Lisa Lisa would go fight Wham

low arrow
#

and die

valid meteor
#

Yes

arctic trail
#

but still

low arrow
#

she wouldn't fight "them"

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she'd fight one

arctic trail
#

this isn't battle tendency lmao

valid meteor
#

Semantics

wintry rampart
#

Anyone was gonna fight the pillar men

meager spear
#

You can’t win against kars unless you have the power of bullshit that Joseph has

dusk agate
#

^

valid meteor
#

It doesn't fucking matter if they win or not, the characters would still follow their goals regardless of the main characters existance. THat applies to every part

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And, maybe IM the crazy one, but isnt' that a GOOD thing?

#

Should you want character autonomy in your stories?

low arrow
#

ok

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so then Jotaro can still be irrelevant

wintry rampart
#

Chill what @valid meteor

low arrow
#

and the plot would work

near starBOT
#

@wintry rampart, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !

valid meteor
#

If the argument is "Well, this main character MSUT have had not much impact, because things still happen without his existance" HOW is that a bad thing????

meager spear
#

This reminds me of something In a future part that I can’t talk about here

low arrow
#

wht are you arguing against me, I agree that SDC would work without joraro

valid meteor
#

I KNOW! You're the one who brought the argument up in the first place.

low arrow
#

WHY ARE WE ARGUING THEN IF WE AGREE? 😂

wintry rampart
#

A character being important doesn't mean the world revolves around them.

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Chill gois

dusk agate
#

I don't even know whats going on anymore 🙃

low arrow
#

same

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so....

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umm

#

the ending was pretty anticlimactic imo

dusk agate
#

wym

lament verge
#

How

valid meteor
wintry rampart
#

The only thing about it that was underwhelming to me was the justification for SP also having time stop. Aside from that the ending was fantastic.

noble gate
#

100% agree

wintry rampart
lament verge
#

I think everything about the ending was fantastic

lone hatch
#

at the very beginning of the fight they pretty much slapped you in the face with the fact that jotaro was gonna stop time

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so i have no issue with jotaro learning time stop

lament verge
#

Same

lone hatch
#

i dont really care that they didnt foreshadow it at all beforehand

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since it was present since the fight started

lament verge
#

^^

noble gate
#

True true

wintry rampart
#

I do care. It doesn't effect my enjoyment of the whole fight, it's just something I found kinda lame.

dusk agate
#

it never made sense tho to me why DIO and Jotaro have basically the same stand

lone hatch
#

because reasons

lament verge
#

Beacause that's just how it wokrs

noble gate
#

^

lament verge
#

There are sooo many stands

wintry rampart
#

I do like how basically the only reason Dio lost was because of his arrogance, meanwhile Jotaro doesn't care enough to have that.

lament verge
#

Some will have the same

dusk agate
#

I like when things have explanations tho

valid meteor
#

I didn't mind it too much. JoJo was still in it's "borderline dumb parody" phase during that time, so I take those first 3 parts a lot less seriously. It's out of nowhere, but whatever it lead to a cool fight

lone hatch
#

theres no real reason lol like araki didnt do some kind of "two sides of the same coin" thing its just
the world and star platinum are the exact same stand, almost 100%
because its cool

dusk agate
#

guess so

lament verge
#

Most stands are the same as sp and the world

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Judt with a abilty throw on top

wintry rampart
#

Imagine every stand having time stop.

noble gate
#

Yeah no

dusk agate
#

That would be boring

lament verge
#

Thatd be so dumb haha

#

Only jotaro and dio deserve time stop

noble gate
#

It would really devalue how rare and OP it is

lament verge
#

^^

dusk agate
#

yep

low arrow
#

I just felt the ending was like any other episode tbh

lament verge
#

I felt the ending was one of the best tbh

low arrow
#

meh

dusk agate
#

I felt like the ending was an ending

lament verge
#

^^

dusk agate
#

honestly idk how I feel about it though

low arrow
#

I think it just concluded everything. It wasn't a great ending tho like the other 2

#

it was just like "yeah yeah story over next part"

lament verge
#

It's better then the next parts endings

near starBOT
#

@lament verge, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !

dusk agate
#

but arent all parts like that though

low arrow
#

oh boy im not there yet

#

@dusk agate not really

lament verge
#

Yeah

#

They are

lone hatch
#

actually none of them are

lament verge
#

Part FIVE is

low arrow
#

Part 1 had Jonathan die on the ship while dio took his body

lament verge
#

Part five is sooo rushed

lone hatch
#

not

low arrow
#

Part 2 was ott with the volcano

valid meteor
#

most part endings are kind semi-chubs at best

noble gate
#

I really liked battle tendency's ending it was one of my favorites tbh

lone hatch
#

so what you need to have a "satisfying ending" is a cool action setpiece, basically?

low arrow
#

part 3 was just "fight! fight! fight! fight!"

near starBOT
#

@low arrow, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !

lament verge
#

I loved all endings but part 5 least

dusk agate
#

same

#

it was confusing and rushed imo

noble gate
#

That's what part 3 was tho

valid meteor
#

I'm convinced that half the reason people like part 2's ending is just cus Part 1 OP plays during it

lone hatch
#

phantom blood had a big exploding ship
battle tendency had an erupting volcano
stardust crusaders ending isnt good because...it doesnt have enough explosions???

noble gate
#

It was fighting

#

So I thought it was fitting

lone hatch
#

to be fair LPC lets not act like thats shallow reasoning to like how DP improved upon battle tendency's ending

#

its pretty good

lament verge
#

Part 3 has ROAD ROLLA so ya cant say the endings bad smh haha

wintry rampart
#

I actually really like most of the JoJo endings. Phantom Blood, DIU and VA all have really satisfying conclusions, and I like SDC's as well. BT's is... weird, but the end fight makes up for it imo.

valid meteor
#

It is. But it just further cements that the actual original BT story is kind of schleep

#

DP carries part 2 SO hard

lone hatch
#

for sure

#

the presentation is amazing

#

the manga is a fun romp and i still think its better than phantom blood and stardust crusaders but the adaptation is just so much better

dusk agate
#

Honestly DIU has the best ending

lament verge
#

Not imo

wintry rampart
#

The adaptations for two, four and five are outstanding.

dusk agate
#

^^^

lone hatch
#

tbh my favorite ending is stone ocean's buuuuuut thats a talk for another time

wintry rampart
#

Also I agree, DIU's ending was amazing.

valid meteor
#

DP has made every part's endings MUCH better

lament verge
#

My fav atm is part 3

lone hatch
#

tbh all jojo DP adaptations are outstanding other than part 3

#

and it still has good presentation its just the fucking pacing

wintry rampart
#

Part three just kinda goes on for too long.

lone hatch
#

for no good fucking reason

valid meteor
#

Which is funny, cus the part 4 manga is longer

lone hatch
#

yes

#

exactly

dusk agate
#

omg I thought I was the only one who thought that

wintry rampart
#

I felt the same during the fight scene in part one, except part three just keeps going and going.

dusk agate
#

I would put off watching part 3 because of that

lone hatch
#

part 3 had bad pacing in the manga

dusk agate
#

its just so long

lone hatch
#

but the anime is outright awful in terms of how slow it is

lament verge
#

Love the legntg

lone hatch
#

i just actually cant stand it

#

can you fucking imagine? 48 minutes for d'arby senior?

lament verge
#

You cant.... STAND it

meager spear
#

Vanilla ice taking 3 episodes

dusk agate
#

It was THAT long??

wintry rampart
#

Parts three and one are the ones I go back to the least beause of their pacing issues.

lone hatch
#

minus OP and ED its like 42 minutes

wintry rampart
#

And Darby two went on for WAYYY too long.

dusk agate
#

part 1 didnt have pacing issues imo its only NINE episodes

wintry rampart
#

D'arby one is my favorite "battle" in the anime so far, but D'arby two just keeps going.

lament verge
#

Part 1 dragged fighting out too much

lone hatch
#

part 3 is the shortest jojo part outside of the first two yet its the longest one adaptation wise

wintry rampart
#

Really?

lone hatch
#

part 1 has weird pacing its just not super incredibly slow

dusk agate
#

But isn't it like 150 chapters

valid meteor
#

Yes, Part 4, 5 & 6 are longer

lone hatch
#

152 chapters yea

wintry rampart
#

That's wild.

lone hatch
#

literally every part after part 3 is longer than it tho

valid meteor
#

Part 4 MUCH more so, clocking inat 174 chapters

dusk agate
#

Woah

lone hatch
#

yet being 9 episodes shorter

#

; )

#

and they didnt cut that much either

lament verge
#

Part 4 is filler filler and more filler

wintry rampart
#

In fact, they added in some places.

dusk agate
#

I quite enjoyed it tho

lone hatch
#

if you think part 4 is filler i think you might have missed the point

wintry rampart
#

Also at least part four is fun filler.

lone hatch
#

but thats not something to discuss in this chat

valid meteor
#

Twin Peaks is filler guys

lament verge
#

I think it's good but filler

lone hatch
#

i dont think you understand what filler means but sure

lament verge
#

Its fun but plot does NOT progess

dusk agate
#

the plot doesnt need to progress ALL the time

valid meteor
#

It's not meant to

lone hatch
#

you realize the point wasnt for the plot to progress every episode, right

valid meteor
#

It's episodic

wintry rampart
#

Part four has so many relationships and seeing them pan out definitely is not filler. However, in terms of starting the actualy main conflict, I can agree to an extent that it's filler.

lone hatch
#

you realize the point was the slice of life episodic small town vibes right

meager spear
#

Slice of life != filler

dusk agate
#

^^

valid meteor
#

Not every part is structured like the first 2 guys

lone hatch
#

not
not fighting the main villain every episode

lament verge
#

I know it doesnt but there was such a wait for the auctal stuff to go down

dusk agate
#

Not really

wintry rampart
#

It wasn't that long of a wait.

dusk agate
#

I loved the character development with the slice of life episodes

valid meteor
#

That is sort of true, I suppose. But I don't think that means that everything before it is "Filler"

dusk agate
#

honestly Jojo needed more of that

lone hatch
#

the "actual stuff", by which you mean the shit when they finally get to the conflict with the main villain, is no more "actual" than the slice of lifey shit

wintry rampart
#

Yeah the relationship development is like, the main appeal of Part Four.

lone hatch
#

the slice of lifey shit is the CORE of part 4

meager spear
#

Part 4 is half jojo, half Seinfeld

dusk agate
#

If it develops the characters it has meaning, therefore it isnt filler

meager spear
#

It relies on that episodic absurdity

lament verge
#

I like the slice of life but some plot progression would be nice

#

It didnt develop the characters

lone hatch
#

it definitely did

dusk agate
#

Yes it did

wintry rampart
#

Literally yeah it did.

lone hatch
#

we should move to the DIU chat

lament verge
#

Kochi devloped

dusk agate
#

Sure

lament verge
#

That's it

#

Also yeah

wintry rampart
#

Okay, let's pack up and move to the DIU chat.

viral beacon
#

Now get the hell out of here. Keep the frickin change.

burnt flame
#

worst part

arctic trail
#

shitty opinion

lone hatch
#

good opinion

arctic trail
#

shitty opinion

meager spear
#

opinion

#

Not good or bad

#

Your own personal opinion

#

No bearing on others

#

respect each other

valid meteor
#

^This is the first good take on this server

dusk agate
#

CheapTrick gets it

#

Let's not be sheep guys

#

have your own opinions

forest root
#

superior opinion = jojo is better than anything made in this world

meager spear
#

no opinion is greater than any other

#

Except for the opinion that polnareff is the best crusader

#

/s

dusk agate
#

The only right opinion

#

wait what I didnt say anything

arctic trail
dusk agate
viral beacon
#

Jojo is not worthy of being called a show

#

It is a religion

#

Now can we talk about sdc now please

arctic trail
#

ah yes

#

crusading the stardust

#

alright

#

here's an interesting one

#

had jotaro been imprisoned before or was that his first time

#

joseph was imprisoned something like 7 times right

viral beacon
#

Dunno about oldseph

#

But jotaro i think it was his first time in the slammer

dusk agate
#

suprising

#

since he litteraly didn't pay for food multiple times

#

and beat the shit out of teachers

viral beacon
#

Well

#

It’s a policy

winged crest
#

A teacher

#

And that teacher ran away cuz he was scared of Jotaro

jagged dust
#

Boataro

storm turtle
#

mohammed abuduluru?

last coral
#

Yes

waxen flume
#

Some of the community literally sees Dio as a God

#

I Think some of them literally worship him as well

jagged dust
#

Ah yes time to worship Dio

#

takes out 50 figurines

weary turret
#

me

viral beacon
#

Mmm

#

I love beating the shit out of them

severe yarrow
#

I love cherry man

#

And he's dead twt

placid quiver
#

aha

#

ha

#

...

arctic trail
dusk agate
#

🍩

viral beacon
#

Rero

wintry rampart
#

avdol

#

Worshipping Dio?

#

cringe

weary turret
#

have you seen the man

wintry rampart
weary turret
arctic trail
#

i mean...

versed python
#

After watching diamond i feel stardust crusaders was too long and stretched

wintry rampart
#

whats diamond?

#

oh, the 7th episode, yeah good nickname

quartz spade
#

most people feel Stardust Crusaders was a little bitty too long

wintry rampart
#

We all do.

#

Or at least, a fair amount of us do.

quartz spade
#

but there will surely be even longer parts when animated

lone hatch
#

the problem is that the adaptation is dragged out

#

when stardust crusaders is one of the shortest manga parts but by far the longest anime part there's gonna be an issue with a large portion of the fandom

#

part 7 is significantly longer than any other part (barring part 8 which i wont discuss since its unfinished) but will probably not be significantly longer than part 3's adaptation because of how different the content is and because of how much better david pro is probably going to attempt to adapt it

stiff gale
#

It's probably so long because it's so popular.

lone hatch
#

theres so many different apparent reasons for why david production decided to make the pacing of the anime so painfully slow

#

i dont know what's true and what's not

#

i just know that its fucking slow as fuck

stiff gale
#

Personally I don't think the entire pace is slow as fuck. I just feel like theres a shit ton of things that happen.

lone hatch
#

no, the pace is really slow. two entire episodes for d'arby senior...what the fuck..

stiff gale
#

There are definitely many scenes that just sorta, go on.
Like D'Arby.

wintry rampart
#

Don’t talk shit about D’Arby

lone hatch
#

stardust crusaders is significantly shorter than diamond is unbreakable, so why is the stardust crusaders anime 9 episodes longer

wintry rampart
#

his fight was fucking amazing

stiff gale
#

Man took like four years to hyperventilate.

wintry rampart
#

I mean senior one

#

Younger fight was good too

storm turtle
#

when i watched sdc i was constantly hoping there would be a fight with 1 part

quartz spade
#

I think it was because the teaser at the end of part 2 and DP wanted to hype Stardust Crusaders up as its own series

lone hatch
#

d'arby fight is one of the only fights i think the 1993 version of jojo did better (along with n'doul being the other one) because it doesnt take 48 goddamn minutes they get the whole thing over with in like 27

wintry rampart
#

How about Oingo Boingo fight lmao

quartz spade
#

and part 3 is the most famous

wintry rampart
#

@storm turtle

lone hatch
#

they dont cut anything out they just dont fucking stretch it

wintry rampart
#

It was one episode long

storm turtle
#

good

wintry rampart
#

Yeah

lone hatch
#

oingo boingo and the sun were both an episode

wintry rampart
#

Yeah but Boingo returned

stiff gale
#

The Sun is still my least favorite episode

lone hatch
#

boingo and hol horse was 2 episodes ; (

wintry rampart
#

Wait Boingo is only stand user after Hol Horse who returns

lone hatch
#

wheel of fortune was also just one episode iirc

valid meteor
#

Ehhhh idk
D'Arby in OVA is shorter which is nice, but the pacing gets a little too frantic at the good parts, when it should be slow and tense

lone hatch
#

so was yellow temperance and strength

wintry rampart
#

Nah I think they removed so many good parts from ova too

stiff gale
#

Stardust has a lack of really any returning antagonists.

wintry rampart
#

Like Vanilla’s Ice was pretty.... bruh

lone hatch
#

i think ova d'arby is a great episode

valid meteor
#

Just Boingo and Hol Horse

lone hatch
#

ova vanilla ice is one of the worst episodes in jojo

valid meteor
#

and enya kind of

stiff gale
#

Enyaba makes multiple appearances but only one fight.

wintry rampart
#

yeah but I liked Oingo Boingo

lone hatch
#

not as bad as like, the alessi eps in the 2015 anime, or the strength episode, or wheel of fortuen

#

but still garbage

wintry rampart
#

I hope Araki gonna make one shots with them

stiff gale
#

I like the anime adaption but it's far from perfect.

valid meteor
#

It doesn't even have Vampire VI

wintry rampart
#

That’s how you make likeable but still weak villains

#

Unlike Alessi

valid meteor
#

And the way it ends is like the least jojo thing ever

wintry rampart
#

Who was pure garbage

#

only good thing about him is his stand

stiff gale
#

Alessi is a pedo so immediately -100 points

wintry rampart
#

Sethan was cool stand

#

Too bad his user is garbage

lone hatch
#

reminder that the 2000 ova turned enya into a young hot milf

quartz spade
#

Alessi got clocked by 6 year old Jotaro

stiff gale
#

Lmao

wintry rampart
#

Oh yeah

valid meteor
#

why do people say he's a pedo
i mean he beats kids, so not much better, but like

quartz spade
#

because polnareff was naked ig

wintry rampart
#

But they removed F mega fight so -100 points

stiff gale
#

LPC, you don't wiggle your tongue at a nude 3 year old without pedophilia on the mind.

wintry rampart
#

Why only in part 3 stand that uses video games appears?

#

I mean we need more gamer stands

valid meteor
#

Yeah, but that's like, calling Jack Torrance a pedophile

#

He didn't want to molest his kid, just murder him

lone hatch
#

in one arc of yu yu hakusho they literally just exported the d'arby gamer stand and gave it to one of the villains

wintry rampart
#

Alessi just pathetic sadistic piece of crap ok?

lone hatch
#

literally the same exact thing

storm turtle
#

what if we kissed above sethan

wintry rampart
#

even as character

#

Oh shit

stiff gale
#

No I'm not behind I just don't remember the name.

#

Just, what was his stand?

#

I'm crap at remembering names sometimes lol

quartz spade
#

Alessi's?

#

it's Set

stiff gale
#

No, uh, the messages were deleted apparently

near starBOT
#

@stiff gale, Your Stand Power is now level 17 !

quartz spade
#

who''s stand

stiff gale
#

Considering the messages were deleted I'm guessing I'm not allowed to say

quartz spade
#

is it a later part

stiff gale
#

I guess. I just couldn't remember the name.

quartz spade
#

just dm me with the character I could tell you

wintry rampart
#

KA-KAKYION

waxen flume
#

Alessi: I can’t say this too loudly but picking on the weak really gets me going maybe too much

#

Alessi: I love picking on the weak it’s so amusing

dusk agate
#

Fuck Alessi

#

I honestly don't think there's anyone who likes Alessi

#

Not even as a villain

placid quiver
#

i found something cursed

#

i'm rewatching noriaki's introduction episode when

viral beacon
#

What

#

Is

#

That

wintry rampart
#

jotaro with normal hat

placid quiver
#

and he doesn't have the chain on his outfit

#

it's like that one photo of the next jojo with an un modified uniform

arctic trail
#

to be fair they didn't know he was gonna be the next jojo

placid quiver
#

?

arctic trail
#

nigeruns from this chat, dashing rocks

placid quiver
#

oh

#

also, i would reccomend rephrasing that

#

nigerundayos would probably be better

arctic trail
#

why not both, why not the shorter version, i'm extremely bored

placid quiver
#

why not that? because the way you phrased it could be taken the wrong way

white dew
#

only if you take it there

arctic trail
#

if that happens we run, smokey

wintry rampart
#

ok

#

yo wait

#

what if smokey had a stand

placid quiver
#

or poco

#

or anne

wintry rampart
#

tbh

#

i wanted smokey to be in part 3

#

like

#

who cares if hes a mayor

placid quiver
#

southern accent intensifies MAYOR OF MY GOOD HOME STATE-

wintry rampart
#

heh

#

what would smokey's stand be?

placid quiver
#

well rock didn't exsist in the 30s/40s, not like that stopped anyone in sbr tho

wintry rampart
#

huh

placid quiver
#

oh this is a part 3 chat

wintry rampart
#

yee

placid quiver
#

uhhhh you heard nothing oooooo~

wintry rampart
#

spoiler?

placid quiver
#

what part are you on?

#

not rlly much of a spoiler tbh

wintry rampart
#

oh i just finished part 6

placid quiver
#

???

#

i-

wintry rampart
#

you asked what i was on

placid quiver
#

i just-

wintry rampart
#

dude i started watching jojo last month

placid quiver
#

same thats not the point

#

the point is you should know that most stands beyond tarot/gods/objects are based of rock music

wintry rampart
#

yeah

placid quiver
#

nvm

wintry rampart
#

well sorry for being me

#

i always forget about something

#

Bruh

quasi jolt
#

hey guys donut here

wintry rampart
#

disguises himself as Jotaro

#

GOOD GRIEF

quasi jolt
#

yo wassup Jotaro, your good old self i see

#

interesting getup, i dont particularly like it but you do you bro

placid quiver
#

head to a roleplay section 😒

wintry rampart
#

We don’t have one

near starBOT
#

@wintry rampart, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !

placid quiver
#

we don't?

quasi jolt
#

kek

placid quiver
wintry rampart
#

KakyoinSad
🍩

#

Bruh

quasi jolt
#

just witnessed somebody get hacked on a different server

placid quiver
#

elaborate?

quasi jolt
#

very sad had to kick them

#

just somebody got into their account and spammed like 20 at everyones

placid quiver
#

why were @/everyones enabled?

arctic trail
#

jotarogulp that's asking for disaster

placid quiver
#

mhm

abstract estuary
wintry rampart
#

btw star platinum's muscles look close to jonathan's if not, the same

weary turret
#

many humans have muscles. perhaps even all

wintry rampart
#

i think thats the most captain obvious thing youve said so far lmao

placid quiver
#

that's the joke

wintry rampart
#

damn my brain small

weary turret
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many posts are obvious to me. perhaps even all

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trials of having a massive 400kg brain

wintry rampart
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^

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why is there rule34 for jotaro thats not very cool

weary turret
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you get used to it.

placid quiver
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it's called rule 34 for a reason

wintry rampart
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especially since he never showed his muscles except for one fight

placid quiver
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internet rule #34: there is porn for everything

wintry rampart
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but thats kinda gae

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cause jotaro is always wearing clothes

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so lewding jotaro is pretty gae

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dio can have rule34 tho

quasi jolt
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yooooooo wtf

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im gonna say the n-word

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but dio stopped me

uncut marsh
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dio may want to rule the world but he aint no waycist

arctic trail
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i think there should be rule 34 jotaro because i the world needs it

uncut marsh
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y not jolyne

arctic trail
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why not both

uncut marsh
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NO NO NO NO NO

near starBOT
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@uncut marsh, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !

uncut marsh
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how many levels until i get killer queen

uncut marsh
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then i must never message again

arctic trail
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here you go

meager spear
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That’s a spoiler

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can’t put that in this channel

arctic trail
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now you see it, now you don't

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poof

wintry rampart
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Spoiler is gone 🦀 🦀

arctic trail
uncut marsh
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[redacted] has [redacted] that spoiler

pastel cairn
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who are those

wintry rampart
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SHINJITERU ZE

cerulean solar
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Jotaro is the ultimate Chad
So there for I will call him Chadaro

wintry rampart
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i mean yeah he kissed a nurse eho was attacking him and donutted the vampire that donutted his boyfriend

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i mean, best friend

uncut tinsel
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Yare yare daze

wintry rampart
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Hey guys I have a question about Star Platinum

weary turret
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shoot

wintry rampart
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Does it give Jotaro a healing factor?

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Cuz he gets fucked up in the final battle

weary turret
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nope. the crusaders are just very tough

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jotaro gets fucked up bad but he pulls through anyway

wintry rampart
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So he just takes a knife to the head and three broken bones like it’s nothing?

weary turret
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the knife wasn't very deep

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he padded his hat with magazines

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i wouldn't say he took his damage like it was nothing, cause he was pretty worn down

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all of DIO's World takes place over a rather short amount of time

wintry rampart
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10 minutes as a matter of fact

weary turret
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around that, yeah

solid bane
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It's almost 3 actually

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I think

white dew
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IIRC it's 4 minutes from when Dio sucks Joseph's blood to the ambulance scene where they put it back

wintry rampart
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Didn't Jotaro get stabbed at some point or something? I remember that cause of Polnareff's "here's a bandaid" line.

arctic trail
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wasn't he stabbed below his abdomen?

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through the belt?

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that was a deep wound

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i think it was steely dan for some reason but i'm probably mistaken

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that was the one that made me think

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jotaro does this everytime he survives

white dew
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ah man I loved him

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yeah in SDC everyone shoots blood like crazy and then is fine the next day

viral beacon
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Masaka

wintry rampart
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Violence in SDC is kinda wack, a lot of the times it felt like they sustained injuries that were rendered insignificant in the next episodes.

wide roost
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I made this because I was bored

wintry rampart
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There's a channel for things you've created. It's called #your-works

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(Also this is pretty cool)

wide roost
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Ok thx

wintry rampart
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ZA WARUDO

wide roost
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Should I make more ?

placid quiver
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ok for a good 30 seconds i was looking at that trying to determine if it was kakyoin or part 6 villain

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since the colors aren't green and the back gets blurry, it was hard to tell, sorry

wide roost
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That's ok :)

wintry rampart
wide roost
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Lovely

meager spear
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Cringe

storm turtle
solid bane
uncut marsh
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@solid bane star finger

solid bane
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blocked

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unblocked, there's context to that ping

uncut marsh
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Yes

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Also h.g. possessing things

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I mentioned another forgot in part 4 chat from the end of the part

solid bane
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on the possesion thing

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why the living fuck would he do that, and to who

storm turtle
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besides araki removing something even after showing it or retconning it there's also the case where something stays but isn't used because

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there's no reason

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why would star finger ever be useful again

uncut marsh
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I remember thinking at one point in part 3

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Also dio laser eyes :v

storm turtle
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there's maybes to that

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2 maybes*

solid bane
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i'd say that srte are not as effective against jotaro

storm turtle
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either he couldn't use it because ooga booga neck wound jonathan body or he was just very sure his stand was the strongest

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so he didn't need to use his powers

uncut marsh
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It is dio so he was probably trying to use the most style

wintry rampart
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Yare yare daze

arctic trail
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i actually don't see that as an implausible scenario

near starBOT
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@arctic trail, Your Stand Power is now level 11 !

wintry rampart
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Ok

vivid hazel
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I try my best not to laugh when ||kakyoin gets killed|| It's tough. I don't want to, but I can't help it

wintry rampart
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I saw that